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Write Where It HurtsEp 67 To Me, They're So DopeEva and Katryn dive into character arcs this week, from craft inspirations to the similarities between building our characters and parenting them. Eva reveals her new book title (YAY!) and Katryn unveils a Lord of the Rings-inspired story cartography process for character arcs. Martin Short is also discussed, because why the hell not?Content/Spoiler Warnings: CW for mention of JKR’s transphobiaSources:Katryn discusses a troubling trend she’s noticing in this episode and her substack.Eva and Katryn both recommend Susan Dennard’s craft writing--check out Susan’s Substack...2025-07-071h 14

Write Where It HurtsEp 66 The Power of StorytellingThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about social media pitfalls for authors, getting back to fangirling over craft, and BookCon’s return. Eva talks about her surprise spiritual connection to Love Island, and Katryn has conspiracy theories about Regina George and the algorithm.Content/Spoiler Warnings: Kate discusses The Bear season 3 so if you haven't caught up before the next season, skip that portion. She also discusses mild tease spoilers about Hacks and Starstruck (HBO).Sources:Subscribe to Katryn’s multi part series about authors and social mediaWe talked about a lot of shows this...2025-07-0153 min

bücherreichbücherreich 282 - Lesemonat Juni 2025In dieser Episode spreche ich über die Bücher, die ich im Lesemonat Juni 2025 gelesen habe: „Der Küstenpfad“ aus der „Doro Kagel“-Reihe von Eric Berg „Succubus Revealed“ aus der „Georgina Kincaid“-Reihe von Richelle Mead „Bullet Train“ aus der „Assassins“-Reihe von Kotaro Isaka „Aller Anfang ist Hölle“ aus der „Die Dämonenfängerin“-Reihe von Jana Oliver „The Summer we kissed“ von Eva des Lauriers* „Terms and Conditions“ aus der „Dreamland Billionaires“-Reihe von Lauren Asher „Das Leben ist tödlich“ aus der „Young Sherlock Holmes“-Reihe von Andrew Lane „Snowflakes & Heartbeats“ von Tonia Krüger, Valentina Fast, Leonie Lastella* „Windstärke 17“ aus der „22 Bahn...2025-07-0125 min

Seitenweise Glück#90: Sommer, Sonne, Sehnsucht – Beach Reads von Abby Jimenez und Eva des Lauriers++ Beide Romane zu gewinnen! ++ Ihr packt den Urlaubskoffer und seid auf der Suche nach einem „Beach Read“? Dann haben Dörte und Hella hier zwei Sommerbücher für euch: „Just for the summer“ von Abby Jimenez und „The summer we kissed“ von Eva des Lauriers. In „Just for the summer” wollen Emma und Justin einen Liebesfluch brechen. Denn beide sind Single und jedes Mal, wenn sie daten und es keine große Liebe wird, finden ihre Dates danach ihre Seelenverwandten. Also daten sie sich, machen Schluss und werden dann ihre große Liebe finden. So der Plan. Doch sie...2025-06-2934 min

Write Where It HurtsEp 65 Just Pissed Off With the Whole Damn Thing!!This week, Eva and Katryn discuss the ways in which we undervalue ourselves in publishing, and how getting feedback can cause tunnel vision for only the negative points. Eva revels in the second (or possibly fifth) chance romance she’s having with her upcoming book, and Katryn can only be healed by the Elon/Musk breakup - remember, that thing that happened two weeks ago, but now feels like two hundred years?Sources:We discussed that man who had to apologize to Oprah and his flourishing career (why)If you’re a fan of fantasy, romance, and...2025-06-2356 min

Write Where It HurtsEp 64 Choose Your Own AdventureThis week Eva and Katryn tackle the myth of fairness in publishing, and the sisyphean task of wading through market changes at the querying stage. Eva rethings her stance on a much maligned character in Sex and the City and Katryn can’t move past her anger at many things–chief among them: Isaac Higgentooth: Colonial Vampire.Sources:Check out Eva’s German release for I Wish You Would (in Germany, titled “The Summer We Kissed”) and stay tuned to her account for a book announcement coming soon!We discuss the internet’s inability to...2025-06-161h 15

Write Where It HurtsEp 63 We fell in the PittThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss recapturing their pre-publishing creativity, parasocial expectations in online spaces, a new troubling AI survey, and building a sub list with your agent. Eva makes her way back to elite athlete status, and Katryn dives headfirst into The Pitt.Sources:Did those of you who watched The Pitt happen to notice that McKay is played by Fiona Dourif and HER DAD IS PLAYED BY BRAD DOURIF? Learn Brad Dourif’s name!Watch Eva’s IG reflection on one year after the release of I Wish You WouldKatryn had a blast at the...2025-06-021h 07

Write Where It HurtsEP 62 Tender Heart in a BlenderEva and Katryn dive into a number of nuanced author struggles this week, from the dehumanization of authors as a product, to the myth of control when it comes to moving the needle, to the discourse surrounding pen names. Eva’s Ron Burgundy references start to reach Lord of the Rings levels, and Katryn can’t hear the title of the medical show “The Pitt” without singing “The Pit”**Content Notes/TWs: We briefly mention the author recently known as ‘Moldemort’ in a discussion about pen names. This is not an endorsement, JKR has used her massive platf...2025-05-271h 05

Write Where It HurtsEP 61 Reemerging Like BigfootWE'RE BACK! This week, Eva and Katryn are back after a long break and catch up on their lives in and out of publishing. Talking about everything from battling a desire for type-A control in the submission process to the fear of losing momentum. Eva gets real about weighing feedback, and Katryn details finding the French version of I Wish You Would in Paris! Sources:Subscribe to Eva’s new Substack-based newsletter to learn a little more about the goings-on in between our episodes.Subscribe to Katryn’s Substack as she pivots from social media as a spa...2025-05-191h 19

STORYBEASTEpisode #98: On debuting, mental health, and I WISH YOU WOULD with Legendary Eva Des LauriersWelcome to another LEGENDARY episode of Storybeast! Our Legendaries are special guests who are an expert within their area of storytelling. In this episode, Ghabiba Weston and Courtney Shack have the pleasure of interviewing Legendary Eva Des Lauriers.Eva Des Lauriers is the author of the Young Adult romance, I WISH YOU WOULD, out with Henry Holt & Co (BYR) May 21, 2024. When she isn’t writing, you can find her wandering through the redwoods, staring at the sea, or pretending she’s in a music video. She lives with her family and her collection of kissing books in Oakland, CA.In t...2025-03-271h 15

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 12 Crying Into Our BurritosThis week, Eva and Katryn talk book burnout, juggling projects, and the pitfalls of hyper-visibility. Katryn gets so dark that she doesn’t even bring up Lord of the Rings once, and Eva explains why she cried into a burrito.Sources: Watch this video of Eva at her Grandma’s organized event if you want to cry in your own burrito! Don’t look at this breakdown if you haven’t seen “The Plight Before Christmas” in Bob’s Burgers’ thirteenth season. The single most heart-hitting moment of all time. Want a Lady Dexter book about dismembering pre...2025-02-241h 10

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 11 The B From La JollaThis week on Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn talk about the importance of continuing to create art in times of crisis. Katryn reads an intriguing romance scene featuring our new favorite bulk distributor (emphasis on bulk, pun intended), and Eva convinces us all to embrace our inner Miss Piggy.Sources: If you need to know more about The Wonderful Ice Cream Suit (and you do) Watch Girls 5Eva! Eva and Katryn talk the importance of art in times of crisis Banned Books Don’t boost sales A few notes on Jim Crow Education in the 2...2025-02-171h 04

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 10 All Hail the Winter HoIn the 2025 premiere of Write Where It Hurts, Eva and Katryn talk dueling revisions, and Sylvia Plath—especially the possibility of losing more authors to mental health issues and publishing trends in the coming years. Eva details crime boarding her revision and goes full Miranda Priestly about the hot, fashion-forward Witch-king of Angmar. Katryn refuses to let go of the hate in her heart over 1-star-review tagging and DRAGS every reindeer that isn’t Rudolph.SourcesKatryn mistakenly described her newest draft as a retelling of “X-Files, season 6, episode 14, but it’s actually15 (Arcadia). She’s basicall...2025-02-101h 04

Creating Joyful Readers19. The Best YA Books of 2024Young Adult books are one of my favorite things so today I'm sharing the 10 best YA titles I read in 2024. Whether you’re an educator looking to add new reads to your classroom library, a media specialist keeping up with the latest releases, or just a book lover hunting for your next great read, this episode is for you.Highlights:How I read so many books each yearMy rating scale10 titles you won't want to missResources Mentioned:Royal Scandal by Aimee Carter - https://amzn.to/3YAYo4p 2024-12-3022 min

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep9 Thirsty for Dick Van DykeIn the 2024 finale (more coming in the new year!), Eva and Katryn discuss navigating motherhood and writing, the dangers of AI in publishing, and curated lists—as well as some big vulnerable end-of-year feels. Katryn is both slut positive and dread positive, and Eva prepares for her annual hot author winter. Sources: I Wish You Would made Barnes & Noble’s “Gifties for Swifties” list! Apologies, the Publishers Weekly article we discussed about using AI author facsimiles is paywalled, but if you have a PW account, you can find it HERE Katryn must eat crow and admit that Jam...2024-12-231h 03

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 8 Is Publishing Making us 'Pick Me' Girls?This week, Eva and Katryn talk stalled careers and finding your beta match, but find time to pitch a Wicked themed pop-up Ozdust nightclub for the mature crowd. Eva revels at the righteous wrath of Swifties, and Katryn talks about the healing nature of satire. Sources: Subscribe to Katryn’s Satire for the Soul substack! Dive deep to find out why Billboard owed Taylor Swift an apology Check out It’s Elementary by Elise Bryant!We talked about grifts in general but check out Victoria Aveyard’s bold suggestion in the wake of “pity marketing” being twist...2024-12-161h 10

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 7 Fast & Furious Feedback: Tokyo DriftThis week’s special episode is from the time machine! Listen to Eva and Katryn talk about navigating feedback in this bottle episode (airing in place of our weekly season four episode in the new format) from June 2024. Katryn reveals all about the darkly comedic vaudevillian murder meet-cute she wrote in a college English class, and Eva gets real about insecurity in the weeks after releasing her debut novel. Sources: Only watch Artax drown in the swamp of sadness if you like suffering Buy Eva’s and Katryn’s books as holiday gifts! Watch the CP live ch...2024-12-0955 min

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 6 Christopher Lee Can *Get* ItThis week, Eva and Katryn get more real than ever before about the realities and pitfalls of debut year now that they can both reflect on the experience. Katryn explains the James Franco thing, and Eva sings "Stars" *as* Russell Crowe. Special guest stars include the ice in our cocktails and dueling Lord of the Rings and Hamilton metaphors! Plus: WICKED! Sources Katryn talks about the ultimate FAFO queen, Agatha Christie and her revenge on her first husband and second husband Eva wants you to watch Arcane! Katryn graces us with her musical rendition of Space O...2024-12-021h 27

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 5 Muse Bomb-CycloneThis week, Eva and Katryn deal in metaphors both nature and Monopoly as they discuss list season, the vanishing midlist, and the dread of not knowing what’s next. Eva discusses either feeling abandoned or bomb-cycloned by her muse, and Katryn thinks you need to learn Brad Dourif’s name. Sources This week, we discuss the recent sale of B&N’s Union Square books to Hachette Subscribe to Eva’s newsletter for some big feels and future thoughts! Katryn discusses a recent Fated Mates episode in which she finds out who has been listening to her book...2024-11-251h 17

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 4 We're Heading Towards F@scism But Eva Has AbsThis week, Eva and Katryn don’t hold back about the potential literary ramifications of the results of the 2024 election. Eva embraces the ancient philosophy of FAFO in discussing the attempted whitewashing of BookTok, and Katryn goes full salt bae on people who “hate identity politics.” Sources Watch the launch for We Are Not Alone if you missed it!This is the closest to Katryn’s perfected sweetened G&T recipejust add an extra squeeze of fresh lime juice with the wedge! Katryn’s song obsession this week: Dead Men Don’t R@pe Who said there isn’t...2024-11-1859 min

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep3 Oops, All Pumpkins! (50th episode!)In their 50th episode, Eva and Katryn talk publishing highs and lows, from the pain of yearly royalty statements when you don’t earn out and “best of” list FOMO, to being your own cheerleader to get yourself into book cons. Come for Eva singing Bon Jovi and crafting her way to distraction, and stay for Katryn comparing her estrogen to Joe Goldberg. Sources Come to Katryn’s launch for We Are Not Alone and see Katryn and Eva in person! The Worf “Milkshake” meme Barney’s Get Psyched Mix Listen to Storybeast podcast! Could Marshawn Lynch run for m...2024-10-281h 05

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 2 Tastes Like FortyThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about reframing their creativity and concept of success (and failure). Come for Eva’s “fuck it era” and stay for Katryn describing her impossible funerial demands in the post-credits stinger. Sources: RSVP for Katryn and Eva LIVE in person for the first time at the launch for WE ARE NOT ALONE at Books Inc Alameda (10/29)! In this episode, Katryn does a live unboxing! Check out her amazing cover artist, Alisha Monnin - and wonderful blurb authors, Michael Leali, Jennifer Chambliss Bertman, A.J. Sass, and Ali Standish Enter the Goodreads giveaw...2024-10-211h 05

Write Where It HurtsS4 Ep 1 PausecastIn a return from Season 3’s hiatus, Eva and Katryn discuss the hardest challenges they’ve faced as authors this year, along with the long-term market concerns many authors are fretting about. Eva talks live recording her husband’s reaction to the second Twilight movie, and Katryn reveals the reason for her new Swiftie status. *Content warnings: Conversations about depression, self-doubt, and intrusive thoughts SourcesCome to see Katryn and Eva LIVE at Books Inc. Alamedafor the launch of We Are Not Alone! Subscribe to Eva’s newsletter Watch Nobody Wants This! 2024-10-141h 24

KPL LIT TALKSJune’s Monthly RoundupJoin us as Claudette, Kim, and Kylie engage in another lit talk. In this episode, they discuss their recent reads.Books mentioned:The Last One at the Wedding by Jason RekulakAfter Anna by Lisa ScottolineSlow Dance by Rainbow RowellSix More Months of June by Daisy GarrisonLove and Other Words by Christina LaurenI Wish You Would by Eva Des LauriersThe Summer I Turned Pretty by Jenny HanLove, Off the Record by Smantha MarkumToday, Tonight, Tomorrow by Rachel Lynn SolomonBetting...2024-07-0136 min

Write Where It HurtsS3 Ep 5 Are We all Plantsers?This week, Eva and Katryn dive deeper into plotters and pantsers, discussing what tools and tricks to best to tame your arcs, plot, and more during the drafting process. Eva regales us all with tales of her launch, and Katryn breaks down all of her drafts in the style of romance tropes. Note: Katryn was having trouble with her mic (mostly, speaking into it properly) and some segments are unusually quiet. This should be fixed by episode 7! Sources Check out the Masterclass on finding out which kind of writer you are! ...2024-06-171h 12

KPL LIT TALKSMay Monthly RoundupJoin us as Claudette, Kim, and Kylie engage in another lit talk. In this episode, they discuss their recent reads.Books Mentioned:Attached at the Hip by Christine RiccioOne Perfect Couple by Ruth WareI Wish You Would by Eva Des LauriersEveryone on This Train Is a Suspect by Benjamin StevensonGwen & Art Are Not in Love by Lex CroucherReady or Not by Cara BastoneKitchen Gardening for Beginners: Regrow Your Leftover Greens, Stalks, Seeds, and More by Katie Elzer-PetersThe Ex by Freida McFadden...2024-06-0338 min

InkspirationChapter 4: Exploring YA Romance with Eva Des LauriersIn today’s episode, Mia and Leila get to know YA author and diehard romantic Eva Des Lauriers! Tune in for discussion on the topics below and more!Eva’s journey to publication The inspiration behind Eva’s YA romance I Wish You WouldThe importance of writing for teen readersVisit us at www.inkspirationpodcast.com for our related blog post and resources discussed in the episode.Let’s welcome Eva Des Lauriers to the Inkspiration community!Purchase I Wish You Would wherever books are sold. Check out Eva’s podcast...2024-05-291h 16

Lit ServiceThe Psychology of Characters with Eva Des LauriersEVA DES LAURIERS joins the Lit Service cast to chat about how she approaches writing characters based on her background in psychology and sociology and how authors can approach writing teen characters with authenticity. Eva is the author of YA Romance, I Wish You Would (Holt, BYR). She’s a diehard romantic who holds both an MSW and BA in psychology. As a clinical social worker, she had the privilege of working with the vibrant and complicated teens for whom she now writes. She co-hosts a writing and mental health podcast with fellow author Katryn Bury called Wr...2024-05-2215 min

Of the Publishing PersuasionOf the Publishing Persuasion - with I WISH YOU WOULD Author Eva Des LauriersIt's here!! Our episode with the amazing Eva Des Lauriers! @evadeslaurbooks Eva's debut YA Romance I WISH YOU WOULD is out TODAY!!! Happy debut day baby!!! Join us and let's all celebrate together!! About I WISH YOU WOULD: In this drama-filled love story, private confessions are scattered on the beach during a senior class overnight and explosive secrets threaten to tear everyone apart, including best friends (or maybe more?), Natalia and Ethan.It’s Senior Sunrise, the epic overnight at the beach that kicks off senior year. But for Natalia and Ethan, it’s the...2024-05-221h 16

Access Essential Full Audiobooks in Teen & YA, Tough TopicsI Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance by Eva Des LauriersPlease visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/745537to listen full audiobooks. Title: I Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance Author: Eva Des Lauriers Narrator: Nezar Alderazi, Stacy Gonzalez Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 8 hours 24 minutes Release date: May 21, 2024 Genres: Tough Topics Publisher's Summary: TURN EVERY RISK INTO A CHANCE. EVERY KISS INTO A PROMISE. Senior Sunrise is the highlight of the summer - an epic overnight at the beach to kick off senior year. But for Natalia and Ethan it's the first time seeing each other after junior prom, when they almost crossed the line from best friends to something...2024-05-218h 24

Access Essential Full Audiobooks in Teen & YA, Tough TopicsI Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance by Eva Des LauriersPlease visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/745537 to listen full audiobooks. Title: I Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance Author: Eva Des Lauriers Narrator: Nezar Alderazi, Stacy Gonzalez Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 8 hours 24 minutes Release date: May 21, 2024 Genres: Tough Topics Publisher's Summary: TURN EVERY RISK INTO A CHANCE. EVERY KISS INTO A PROMISE. Senior Sunrise is the highlight of the summer - an epic overnight at the beach to kick off senior year. But for Natalia and Ethan it's the first time seeing each other after junior prom, when they almost crossed the line from best friends to...2024-05-2105 min

Access Unmissable Full Audiobooks in Teen & YA, RomanceI Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance by Eva Des LauriersPlease visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/745537to listen full audiobooks. Title: I Wish You Would: the summer's swooniest YA romance Author: Eva Des Lauriers Narrator: Nezar Alderazi, Stacy Gonzalez Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 8 hours 24 minutes Release date: May 21, 2024 Genres: Romance Publisher's Summary: TURN EVERY RISK INTO A CHANCE. EVERY KISS INTO A PROMISE. Senior Sunrise is the highlight of the summer - an epic overnight at the beach to kick off senior year. But for Natalia and Ethan it's the first time seeing each other after junior prom, when they almost crossed the line from best friends to something more...2024-05-218h 24

Your Library on the Go With Free AudiobookI Wish You Would Audiobook by Eva Des LauriersListen to this audiobook in full for free onhttps://hotaudiobook.com/freeID: 703484 Title: I Wish You Would Author: Eva Des Lauriers Narrator: Max Meyers, Victoria Villarreal Format: Unabridged Length: 09:05:00 Language: English Release date: 05-21-24 Publisher: Macmillan Audio Genres: Fiction, Teen, Romance, Tough Topics Summary: To All the Boys I've Loved Before meets Youve Reached Samwith all the feels of a Taylor Swift songin this love story in which explosive secrets threaten to tear everyone apart, including best friends (or maybe more?), Natalia and Ethan. 'One of the best YA novels I've read in a long time.' Rachel Lynn...2024-05-219h 05

Write Where It HurtsS3 EP 4 Debut AnxietyIt’s a Write Where it Hurts Super Special! This week, Eva and Katryn discuss debut anxiety-- everything from the wounds it opens, to self-imposed stress, to developing early expectations around the “nebulous cloud that is publishing.” Eva discusses cutting herself off from reading reviews, and Katryn acts out a whole scene from Harry and the Hendersons and it somehow works as a metaphor. NOTE: We are taking a break for Eva's debut (out on 5/21)! We'll be back in June! *Content warnings: This week, we talk a lot about mental...2024-05-131h 46

Write Where It HurtsS3 Ep 3 Character FlawsThis week, the topic on Write Where it Hurts is ‘writing flawed characters,’ and the craft talk gets real. Eva deftly connects The Tortured Poet’s Department to the theme, and talks giving all of her characters the full enneagram-meyers-briggs workup, while Katryn gets very salty about manic pixie dream girls (but not in the way you think). NOTE: If the audio sounds a bit choppy and Katryn’s voice sounds like sad, parched smacking, this is because our heroic Eva was forced to edit out roughly 79,000 coughs. Thanks, Spring! Sources: Give your character a free enneagra...2024-05-061h 20

Write Where It HurtsS3 Ep2 Writing GroupsThis week, Eva and Katryn delve into managing your time in writing groups - from getting in (yay!) to knowing when to back off. Eva talks disappearing Homer-style into a bush when overwhelmed, and Katryn discusses getting back into the IRL social fold. Sources: Lots of people out there talking about how Slack and apps like it can cause stress, anxiety and a lack of work life balance Pre-Order I Wish You Would and keep an eye on Eva’s IG or subscribe to her newsletter for upcoming tour info! Request Katryn’s next book, We Are...2024-04-291h 05

Write Where It HurtsS3 Ep 1 Writing Under ContractTo kick off season 3 of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn discuss writing on contract--from the reality of deadlines after you’ve sold a book, to the creative process around pitching books after the book deal. Kate and Eva can’t stop/won’t stop talking about minotaur erotica. Sources Pre-order I Wish You Would now! Also, for Bay Area folks, please come out to Eva’s launch in conversation with the great YA Author Kristin Dwyer at Mrs. Dalloway’s Books Check out the gorgeous cover of Katryn’s upcoming book...2024-04-221h 06

Write Where It HurtsBONUS: Growing As ArtistsIn this bonus episode, Eva and Katryn discuss their evolution as artists & authors--from making peace with the revision process and finding your best critique balance, to the hurdles they’ve faced as artists. Katryn grieves lost pop-culture references and Eva kinda-accidentally makes her husband sound like a cannibal. CONTENT CLARIFICATION: Hi, all! Kate here. I just wanted to clarify that, in the segment where I talk about feeling like I have the right to educate myself, I realized I was being super vague. I wanted to clarify that I was talking about bad publishing and writing advice. I r...2024-04-151h 33

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 20 Ask Us Anything Season Finale!Eva and Katryn celebrate the last episode of Write Where it Hurts Season 2 with a very special episode (VSE™): and Instagram Live. They discuss the ups and downs of the year, answer your craft, publishing and podcast questions, and reveal what lies in store for season 3! Sources Pre-order Eva’s debut I WISH YOU WOULD out 5/21/24 and add it on Goodreads Please buy Katryn’s books and also add her next book WE ARE NOT ALONE on Goodreads. Check out our pod’s Linktree and remember to follow us on IG! 2023-09-111h 01

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 19 Writing Through Tough TimesJOIN US ON FRIDAY 9/8 for our IG LIVE SEASON FINALE @writewhereithurtspod In the penultimate episode of season 2, Eva and Katryn discuss navigating writing and publishing during tough times—from using story to process trauma, to dealing with deadlines when you’ve got a case of the mean reds. Eva exalts the glory of TSA precheck and Katryn pays homage to the healing powers of Olivia Benson. *Content warnings: Grief, trauma, mental illness, pandemic. CLARIFYING NOTE: Katryn talks about the type of mental illness that feels like a “choice”- this is in reference to a level of...2023-09-041h 07

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 18 Our Favorite Craft Books (Part 2)Eva and Katryn discuss their favorite resources on craft--from books to blogs and writer’s groups. Eva discusses her origin story of studying craft, and Katryn makes a confession.2023-08-2850 min

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 17 Our Favorite BooksWriters are readers first! In this episode of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn spill the tea about their ALL-TIME favorite reads from every genre and age category. Eva may or may not do a reading in a British accent, while Katryn shares a favorite reading spot that will have listeners scratching their heads. Keep your notes app open or grab a pen and paper because your TBR will be full after this episode! Sources It’s So Nice to Have A Wolf Around the House Cinderella Eva’s pick for...2023-08-211h 22

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 16 Pace PerfectEva and Katryn discuss the “...HOW?” of pacing, from pacing between genres, to keeping the characterization authentic in a faster pace, to earning your endings. Eva encourages writers to kill the cat (disclaimer: no cats were harmed in the making of this podcast) and Katryn won’t ever, ever watch the Fast & Furious franchise. Sources Katryn apologizes for her Simpsons gaffe, but then doubles down after a disastrous apology tour. Check out our Write Where It Hurts Instagram account to see pictures of our memes! An interesting take on “white spaces” on the page...2023-08-141h 12

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 15 Author BrandingThis week on Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn discuss curating your author brand--everything from visuals (like fonts and color palettes) to boiling your books down to a consistent pitch that reveals who you are as a writer and as a person. Eva talks being the ultimate Mastermind (yes, that was a T-Swift reference) and Katryn compares Nerdfighters and the BTS Army. Sources Check out Eva’s website for an idea of her palette! THIS is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps Eva and Katryn talked abo...2023-07-241h 19

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 14 Letting Your Story GoThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss the challenges of letting your story go, from working with editorial agents, to edits after a book deal--and when to push back when the edits don’t feel right. Eva basks in the glow of full Vanderpump completion and Katryn outlines the five stages of grief getting an edit letter. Sources This Simpsons song tells the truth Katryn’s article in Salon 2023-07-171h 16

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 13 Toxic PositivityThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss toxic positivity, its impact on their mental health as writers, and offer tips to break the cycle from both sides. Eva confesses to being a lifelong pickle slut, while Katryn gets salty about libraries and inspirational tube tops. *Content warnings: Queerphobia, illness, depression, discussion of hate speech Sources Get an overview of the concept of toxic positivity from Psychology Today Also, why “good vibes only” can be bad Just NO to this Stop bossing me around, inspirational memes! Eva and...2023-07-101h 30

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 12: New Kid on the BlockThis week, Write Where it Hurts covers the challenges of feeling “new” at every step of publishing, and how to combat the anxieties and triggers that come up with it. Eva reinforces her newfound role in the BTS Army and Katryn gets philosophical (and, dare we say, cross-stitchable?) about the pressure to push down sensitivity. *Content warnings: Anxiety, depression, and please note a trigger warning for queerphobia (Katryn discusses an incident with far-right protesters at drag queen story hour and how it impacted her and her family) Sources Katryn is on a full-sail fang...2023-06-261h 20

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 11: Story InspirationEva and Katryn reunite and host their giddiest episode to date! This week, Write Where it Hurts returns from hiatus with a craft episode all about inspiration--from a mind-body perspective to self-care. Eva obsesses about Vanderpump Rules and Sister Act 2, while Katryn questions Thomas Edison and quotes The X-Files’ Jose Chung. Sources Watch the first episode of The Plagues of Our Lives Thomas Edison was not the first person to talk about inspiration vs. perspiration. Is anything real? Read Imogen, Obviously by Becky Albertalli, and The Feeling of Falling in Love by Mason Deaver! Also, check ou...2023-06-191h 29

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 10: Working With Industry ProfessionalsThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about the ins and out of communicating with industry professionals--like the details of signing with agents and editors, and communication expectations after you get a book deal. Your ultra-nerdy hosts blow their own minds as they realize that publishing a book is EXACTLY like The Fellowship of the Ring. Cross-stitchable line of the week: “We can’t see your bear” -Ben (Katryn’s husband) *Content warnings: Light discussion of trauma/anxiety *NOTE: We are taking a mid-season hiatus until June 2023! Sources Eva’s life-chang...2023-05-081h 34

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep 9 Our POVs on POVThis week, Eva and Katryn dive back into craft with a discussion about POV: 1st, 2nd and 3rd--but also past vs. present and multiple perspectives. Katryn manages to promote the new Super Mario Brothers movie better than her own book, and Eva dishes about her new reality show addiction. Eva’s weekly cross-stitchable quotation: “Emotion is my north star.” *Content warnings: discussion of bias and cultural appropriation in publishing Sources: Buy Drew Leclair Crushes the Case! Also, please rate and/or review on Amazon and tell Barnes and Noble to carry it in...2023-05-011h 07

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP8 Writing While Neurodivergent: Anxiety & Panic AttacksThis week, Eva and Katryn start the first part of their writing while neurodivergent series. In the first part, the discussion focuses on anxiety (not technically under the ND umbrella but many of the symptoms are assumed to be anxiety by medical professionals), trauma, invasive thoughts, and panic attacks. This is a more serious episode (although there are plenty of laughs too!) so please note the content warnings and listen with care. Highlights include Katryn coming hard for the sheer number of affairs in adult lit, and Eva being so philosophical you might need to cross-stitch the whole episode.2023-04-241h 35

Write Where It HurtsS2 E7 Breaking Down The BlocksThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss the phenomenon that apparently doesn’t exist for 4 out of 5 cis white dude millionaires: writer’s block. Eva discusses how previously blocked stories can become a “second chance romance” and she and Katryn compare fangirl notes on Taylor Swift and The X-Files. *Content warnings: Depression and anxiety Sources Katryn’s CMORDs were many, but this was certainly the longest. Check out Eva’s pitch-perfect Swiftie outfit Check out the very free-form book that talks about harnessing creativity: The Creative Act *** Our Books...2023-04-171h 18

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep6 Querying Part 2: RejectionIn part two of Write Where It Hurts’ series on querying, Eva and Katryn discuss how to navigate everyone’s least favorite part of the path to publishing: rejection. Eva and Katryn appear to pull back from yet another Gilmore Girls tangent but this week’s outtake suggests otherwise. This episode contains multiple love letters to the irreplaceable Chelsea Eberly. *Content warnings: Religion, depression Sources Formation: a song by Beyonce Remember to add I Wish You Would on Goodreads or Tinker Bell will DIE. Meg Cabot’s awesome blog about he...2023-04-031h 16

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep5 Querying Clinic Part 1: The BasicsYou asked for a whole episode dedicated to querying--and you got it! This week, Eva and Katryn start a two-part series on querying and rejection. In part one, they discuss how to craft a query letter, picking the right agent, tactics of sending queries in batches, and much more! Stay tuned to the end to hear the query letters that landed them their agents! NOTE TO NEW LISTENERS: This episode is slightly different than our usual format. If this is your first time, we recommend starting with an earlier episode (like last week’s) to get an ide...2023-03-271h 33

Write Where It HurtsS2 E4 Talking About TropesEva and Katryn talk tropes this week--from the tropes we adore, to the ones we avoid. So often, trope is used as synonymous with cliche, but Write Where it Hurts flips the script. Eva spills the SAG award tea and Katryn once again tries to be a one-woman spokesperson for the little known 1960’s Dick Van Dyke film, Fitzwilly. *Content warnings: (Non-explicit) discussion of least favorite and traumatizing tropes such as pet death, unexpected pregnancy, and rape storylines. Sources The meaning behind our subtitle and background on our epic ship of Mary Poppins an...2023-03-201h 23

Write Where It HurtsS2 Ep3 Vulturing The TrunkEva and Katryn honor devoted listener and Katryn’s best friend Karim’s birthday with a longstanding episode request: VULTURING THE TRUNK! In this episode, they talk all about trunked manuscripts--from self-care around leaving a book behind, to resurrecting books you thought were lost. Eva discusses retrieving scenes and ideas from her “story morgue” (spooky!) and Katryn finally cries while recounting a scene from Clifford Takes a Trip. Sources Don’t lose track of your trunked manuscripts like these famous authors! If you haven’t yet, check out Eva’s new author website! Katryn is obsessed with Worf Ev...2023-03-131h 20

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 2 Time DroughtThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about how much “invisible” time is taken up by writing (social media, running a website, emailing with your editorial team, etc.) and the toll it can take on the life you led before publishing. Eva gets philosophical about the sacrifices necessary when pursuing your dream, and Kate also gets philosophical, but while talking like a Ferengi. Sources Add Eva’s debut, I Wish You Would, on Goodreads! Listen to Katryn’s burn-it-all-down Rage playlist on Spotify. Check out Eva’s debut author headshot! Follow us on Instagram: @evadeslaur...2023-03-061h 07

Write Where It HurtsS2 EP 1 From Seedling to StoryIn the season two premiere of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn go back to basics, talking about craft and how story ideas get developed. Katryn talks about her mysterious Victorian ghost again, and Eva talks about when she gets those first butterflies-in-her-stomach crush feelings about an idea. (Apologies for the fuzzy audio in the first three minutes--we recorded this on a cold night and forgot to turn off the space heater!) Sources Sign up for Eva’s newsletter on her new website! Y’all are going to have THIS in your head now. Sorry/not s...2023-02-271h 11

Write Where It HurtsFear of SuccessOn this Bonus episode that we couldn't post until Eva's book deal was announced, we're going back to November when Eva and Katryn discussed the flip side to failure--success. We all want it, but it can be a double-edged sword that makes us both yearn for and fear it. Eva discusses her HUGE life-changing news, and Katryn would rather not be perceived, thank you very much. Sources Link to Eva’s deal announcement! And Katryn’s recent book news about Drew! Eva’s weekly book recommendation, Henry Hamlet’s Heart The Civil War of Amos Abernathy (a FANTAS...2023-01-231h 12

Write Where It HurtsEVA GOT A BOOK DEALSurprise! This week, on a very special episode of (not Blossom, but) Write Where it Hurts, Eva talks about the daily process of navigating offers for HER DEBUT BOOK DEAL!!!! Recorded back when it happened, Katryn interviews Eva about ALL the feels and all the details that come along with this process--from acquisitions to accepting an offer and everything in between. Sources: Eva’s deal announcement on Publisher’s Weekly! Add Eva’s debut, I WISH YOU WOULD, on Goodreads! Check out the Instagram celebration after Eva announces to the world! Follow us on Instagram: ...2023-01-0947 min

Write Where It HurtsAsk Us Anything Season Finale!In the final episode of Season One, Eva and Katryn do an Instagram Live “AMA” answering your burning questions like will there be a season 2? And which season of Below Deck is the best to start? Join us for lots of laughs, including Eva’s realization that she is, indeed, Edward Cullen, and Katryn realizing that being an introvert means that she could easily be framed for murder. To watch our IG Live visit HERE (part 1) and HERE (part 2). We had a few technical difficulties mid-show, hence the two parter. See you next season! Sources: You wa...2022-12-191h 03

Write Where It HurtsCraft Talk: CharactersNOTE: JOIN US FOR OUR SEASON FINALE Instagram Live AMA THIS Wednesday, Dec 14th at 5:30PST @writewhereithurtspod ! Eva and Katryn talk about characters and craft in their penultimate episode of season one—everything from navigating your protagonist’s mental health to managing the generational gap when you write for kids. Eva talks about “prodding” your creative spirit and Katryn somehow finds a way to connect it all to the 1996 film, Multiplicity. *Content warnings: Discussion about ableist phrases, mental health, trauma Sources In case you’re curious about Eva’s craniosacral therapy discussion You can thank...2022-12-121h 04

Write Where It HurtsChoosing The Right GenreEva and Katryn discuss everything genre--from its distinction from age category, to market fluctuations and saturation. Eva speaks with rapturous enthusiasm about the joys of being a teen (& as always pays homage to our queen, Judy Blume), while Katryn talks herself into ‘yeti romance’ as a lucrative genre. *Content warnings: True crime, sexual assault (no details, only in reference). Also, as a self-callout note, Katryn refers to women at times when “women and nonbinary/non-gender conforming folks” would be more accurate. Working towards being better and more consistent at this! Sources Eva talks a lot abou...2022-12-071h 06

Write Where It HurtsThe Lonely Life of an AuthorIn this week’s episode, Eva and Katryn discuss the loneliness that authors can face, from our solitary workspaces to the fact that few industry outsiders truly get the ins and outs of this business. Eva does a pitch perfect teenager voice, and Katryn is enraged by motivational listicles. Sources Katryn’s sister made this inspired meme about the potential death of Twitter. In case you missed it, be sure to check out the book Eva is now raving about, Zachary Levi’s Radical Love Katryn walks into Twitter like this The Wisdom of Anxiety Eva asks, “...2022-11-281h 18

Write Where It HurtsFailure Is An F-WordThis week’s episode of Write Where it Hurts is centered around that horrible F-word: FAILURE--how to face it, how to frame it, and how to help others move through it. Eva and Katryn gush about K-dramas, reveal their true feelings about Jasper from Twilight, and discuss using pure unadulterated spite to turn failure into a success. *Content warnings: Discussion of sexual assault (not graphic) in the introduction re: The Luckiest Girl Alive. Sources F1 racer Daniel Ricciardo’s baller statement that has become a point of inspiration for Eva. Katryn’s childhood hero Toxic...2022-11-211h 14

Write Where It HurtsThe Fear of Being ONE BookThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss the fear of being one book--from that panic after you finish your first ever book and wonder how you can repeat it, to the dread before you start a new draft. Eva gives us all the gift of reading from her 1990’s third grade story journal, and Katryn reveals that she wrote a mayonnaise jingle around the same age. *Content warnings: Severe childhood illness, the sound of a dot matrix printer, princess murder Sources Goblin. So much staring. So much meat. (spoilers, probably) On Writing by Stephen King Wr...2022-11-141h 03

Write Where It HurtsHurry Up And WaitThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about the hardest part of publishing--the seemingly never ending wait! Publishing is all about hurry up and wait, but why can’t we have a little more of the former and less of the latter? Eva is once again prone to wax rhapsodic about K-dramas, and Katryn has real talk for people who tell her to “just work on something else!” during a Big Wait. Sources Need a distraction? Take a tip from Eva and watch Formula 1 racing! Kate talks about Sound of Music, and I’m sorry but any excuse t...2022-11-071h 09

Write Where It HurtsTrauma Brings The DramaHAPPY HALLOWEEN! For this (sort of) Halloween episode of Write Where it Hurts, Eva and Katryn discuss the super fun and light topic of writing and confronting trauma in our fiction. Eva hops on the sexual orientation train just for Mr. Darcy, and Katryn takes life lessons from Ice-T. *Content warnings: Trauma, PTSD, fear of abandonment, fatphobia Sources Vulture discusses the infamous cheesesteak scene that became one of Katryn’s many sexual orientations. Re: Mr. Darcy--that hand flex tho!!!! An article that digs into toxic stress, that annoying stress that is often the root of...2022-10-311h 15

Write Where It HurtsThe Author Mind/Body ConnectionWE'RE BACK! This week, Eva and Katryn discuss the mind-body connection that comes along with being an author--from that feeling of bliss when you’re on a roll, to the agony when your body won’t let you keep going. Eva shares FOMO-inducing details about her magical trip to Scotland, and Katryn reaches epic new over-referencing levels. *Content warnings: Illness and physical ailments, Katryn being hella depressing Sources Eva’s writing retreat was for Writing with the Soul alumni, with faculty mentors from YA greats Adrienne Young, Kristin Dwyer, and Rachel Griffin. Atreyu’s horse in...2022-10-241h 07

Write Where It HurtsGatekeepers (& Keymasters) of PublishingIn this week’s episode, Eva and Katryn discuss the troublesome surge in book bans in the U.S., how it impacts them as writers, as well as what gatekeepers can do to hold the line against censorship. Eva does a spectacular, chef’s kiss-worthy impression of Ted Cruz’s Anti-Racist Baby tantrum, and Kate talks a little too long about rodent burlesque. Sources Banned Books Week 2022 In Round Rock, Texas https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/books/book-ban-us-schools.html ALA reponse and more on EDI (Equity, Diversity & Inclusion) work Jonathan Evison response to his book “Lawn Boy” being bann...2022-09-191h 29

Write Where It HurtsNurturing Your Creative SpiritThis week, Eva and Katryn talk about how to feed your creativity, from the seedling of an idea through revisions. Music, exercise, mood boards and lots and lots of television? It all works. Eva talks about her childhood crushes (hello, Colm Wilkinson and Devon Sawa in Casper!) and Katryn explains how the Goo Goo Dolls made her buy a refrigerator. Sources Behold the wonder of original Jean Valjean, Colm Wilkinson Also, Katryn…really likes Butterflies and Hurricanes by Muse The yachties of Below Deck have a recipe for espresso martinis because of COURSE they do This ar...2022-09-121h 25

Write Where It HurtsNetworking For The Socially AnxiousIn this week’s episode, Eva and Katryn talk about navigating writing spaces when you have social anxiety-from online friendships, to conferences, to being “out there” in social media land. Eva can't stop singing Good Charlotte's "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" & talks about the importance of finding your version of "theatre kids", and Katryn discusses "Clark Kenting" as a librarian to avoid author conversations. *Content warnings: Eva apologizes in advance for getting this stuck in your head: Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous by Good Charlotte- music video Sources Unlike Katryn, Shondaland thinks strobe lights are a...2022-08-291h 22

Write Where It HurtsWhen Writing Ruins ReadingThis week’s episode Eva and Katryn dive deep for this week’s episode, talking about reading as a writer, as well as the grief that comes along for those who lose bookstores, libraries, and reading as their “safe space” once they're published. Katryn keeps claiming pop-culture moments as her sexual orientation, and Eva tries to explain her (extremely traumatizing) mug. *Content warnings: Anxiety and depression, Marnie T. and all Marnie T. related products. Sources Kate’s NYT Rave Review “If you Want to Ruin Bookstores for Yourself, Become a Writer” by Jana Casale ...2022-08-221h 35

Write Where It HurtsRevise, Cry, RepeatIn this week’s episode, Write Where it Hurts delves into revision. Eva and Katryn share their extremely alliterative tips for how to survive a rewrite (Eva: pep talks, pastries and prosecco; Katryn: coffee, carbs, crime boards) and discuss how to self-critique without being unkind to yourself. Stay tuned for another fun post-credits outtake scene featuring a very special guest star! *Content warnings: negative self talk, depression Sources Judy Blume’s Masterclass V.E. Schwab’s “The Story Corpse” Rachel Griffin’s Revision Process Revision beat sheets using the Save the Cat method Keeping the Faith “I...2022-08-151h 21

Write Where It HurtsWriting Your Own StoryThis week’s episode is Eva and Katryn’s most personal yet, as they describe writing their own stories from their specific perspectives and intersections. Eva talks about being mixed race (while being--direct quote: “pale as the beacons of Gondor”) and honoring her culture on her own terms, while Katryn explores intersectionality and being “bi-everything.” Helpful note: Eva and Katryn say the word “complicated” roughly five thousand times, so please exercise caution if you turn it into a drinking game. *Content warnings: Race, ableism, micro-aggressions, bullying. Sources Eva talks about seeking positive and authentic Latinx and mixed...2022-08-081h 11

Write Where It HurtsPandemic PublishingEva and Katryn discuss really heavy things (Covid-19! Roe v. Wade!) but, true to form, still manage to make time to discuss frivolous boat-related shows. This week’s episode focuses on the issues authors have faced during the pandemic--from long wait times, to supply chain issues, to navigating lockdown with kids and also trying to write. *Content warnings: The Covid-19 pandemic, pregnancy, abortion, the stripping of rights for people with uteruses, graphic discussion of childbirth (For those sensitive to the latter four issues, they are from the 17 to the 22 minute mark). Note from the hosts: Th...2022-08-011h 28

Write Where It HurtsSocial Media & The Comparison GameThis week, Eva and Katryn discuss how to navigate mental health on…SOCIAL MEDIA (dun, dun, DUN!) Eva gets her soap box moment about the toxic comparison game and women who “have it all” and Katryn shares some tips and tricks for surviving across platforms. From boundaries to breakthroughs (a.k.a. Shonda Rhimes to Chandler Bing) they cover it. *Content warnings: Trauma, Anxiety Sources Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes Alexa Donne on YouTube Writing With the Soul with Adrienne Young We: A Manifesto for Women Everyw...2022-07-181h 16

Write Where It HurtsParenting & PublishingOn this episode of “Write Where it Hurts,” Eva and Katryn discuss the pitfalls and perks of parenting, pregnancy, and publishing (with all the plosives). Join in as they pay homage to trunked characters (a.k.a. our other children) and somehow find a way to connect this topic to both "When Harry Met Sally" and the Fast and Furious franchise. *Content warnings: Pregnancy, cancer and conceiving, postpartum anxiety/depression Sources Yerba Buena by Nina LaCour That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast Apparently, it’s called The Fast and THE...2022-07-041h 03

Write Where It HurtsTaming Your Inner CriticOn this episode of “Write Where it Hurts,” Eva and Katryn discuss imposter syndrome, perfectionism, and how to tame your inner critic and use it to your advantage during revisions. When is the best time to kick that mean brain to the curb? Come for the mental health, stay for the surly/hilarious rants about basketball playoffs and 20th century dude authors. *Content warnings: Eating disorders, anxiety, intrusive thoughts. Sources The Wisdom of Anxiety: How Worry and Intrusive Thoughts Are Gifts to Help You Heal Eva’s books are way better than D...2022-06-2044 min

Write Where It HurtsExpectations vs. Realities of Pursuing PublishingHello and welcome! This episode introduces “Write Where it Hurts,” a mental health podcast for writers that discusses the highs and lows of publishing with humor and heart. This week, Eva and Katryn discuss the expectations vs. the realities of querying, submission, and everything after. From Taylor Swift to Gillian Anderson, there are a few delightful tangents, too.* Sources Jane Yolen on Rejection: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jane-yolen-americas-hans-_b_5398407 Ally Malinenko (author of Ghost Girl and This Appearing House) on publishing: https://twitter.com/AllyMalinenko/status/1518902811613929474?s=20&t=h_MlYP4I22C...2022-06-201h 17

#CreateYourEarthLife Christian Podcast - Bible Studies, Testimonies and Faith Based Entrepreneurship#4- Writing, Blogging, MotherhoodIn this episode of the #CreateYourEarthLife podcast, you will have the pleasure of meeting Eva Des Lauriers, a writer and Mama of two. We discuss query letters, literary agents, submissions, her book and the process of writing it, her blog, and Eva gives insight on her daily routine as a fulltime Mom and writer! She's a real inspiration! You can find her on Instagram @evadeslaurbooksPlease feel free to contact me on Instagram as well, @evolving.writer.jenasaLeave a review and help #CreateYourEarthLife podcast evolve!2020-01-2300 min