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The Generic Foiling Podcast
108 - Ramblings between the lads
A busy couple weeks on the water and a lot of findings from our own sessions - we set some time aside in order to talk about a couple fun bits that've been occuring in the foiling world but actually ended up dissecting our own findings - which ended up being a lot of fun. Downwind paddling and parawinging mainly on the cards here, with some winging thrown in the mix to keep it Generic. Liam has a revelation, and Freddie's struggling along with everything as always....We hope...
2025-06-02
1h 15
The Generic Foiling Podcast
106 - Freddie and Liam - Best Foilboards in the world.
Freddie and Liam have a catch up between themselves and reflect on their foiling progress over the past months, reveal the best foilboard in the world for kitefoiling and downwind SUP foiling, chat about their time hanging out the Code Foil boys in Cornwall and shout out some industry gear options that they'd like to try.Don't forget that Gav@Hydrofoils charity auction campaign is live on youtube, go check it out!
2025-05-13
1h 09
The Generic Foiling Podcast
104 - Emma Clamp & Guy Bridge
The King and Queen of UK foiling join us after their epic winter adventure/pre-wedding honeymoon down under. Its hard to listen to this pair and not feel frothed to get out on the water and enjoy yourself. Listen to the very end and Freddie's zest might even surprise you!
2025-04-15
1h 15
The Generic Foiling Podcast
103 - Aidan Nicholas
FINALLY we release this one! We got to spend some time chilling in the carpark of Hood River with Aidan back in September (did we tell you we went to Hood River?) and he was nice enough to be one of the folks who lent us a downwindering board while we were there too.No doubt you've all seen videos of him shredding on the interweb, and he was one of the standout riders on the water through AWSi for Liam and I. Fast forward a couple of months and we managed to...
2025-04-07
1h 56
The Generic Foiling Podcast
102 - Bobby Johnston - Slingshot Product Designer (ONELOCK)
A super fun chat with Slingshot Product Designer, Bobby Johnston, who has been a very busy man over the past 3 years developing Slingshot's new ONELOCK mast & fuselage system in combination with the slingshot foil range among other things.This is a fantastic chat that covered a lot of bases. From techy tech, design philosophy, business operations, new testing/industry benchmarking methodologies and much more.Bobby is as friendly as he is modest (very) and we hope we can add him to the list of designer friends of GFP to...
2025-03-31
2h 09
The Generic Foiling Podcast
99 - Back on the sofa with Liam & Freddie!
Your much-needed dose of foil news, splurge of opinions and session updates. Rate us 5 stars and enjoy the episode! #hashtag
2025-01-28
1h 33
The Generic Foiling Podcast
98 - Gabriella Bella
We hope you enjoy this episode with humble waterwoman extraordinaire Gabriella Bella. We get the low down on Gabriella's watersports history and she does her best to dial in Freddie's shimming game. Listen to this episode and rate the podcast 5 stars or we'll all get personally offended. Peace out.
2025-01-21
1h 28
The Generic Foiling Podcast
95 - Ben Jamieson & Caitlyn Francis
Prior to meeting this pair at AWSI this year, we knew little to nothing about the two of them, and yet they're some of the most hard-working and influential people in the foiling game right now. Within minutes of meeting and chatting to Caitlyn over a margarita at Hood River's no.1 mexican 'Taqueria', Liam had decided she needed to be in front of the mic, and having the couple sit down together was a bonus. A lot was covered in this conversation, and I'd be surprised if anyone didn't feel inspired both on and...
2024-12-30
1h 28
The Generic Foiling Podcast
92 - Kāohi Leashes - Roy & mama Karen (foil_fan)
An excellent episode with one of our favourite pairs in the foiling game. Passionate, positive, and inspiring individuals who have turned a niche product segment and brand into a household name within the foiling industries. They've managed to get Freddie excited about leashes! We had the pleasure of hanging out with Karen and Roy on the beach in San Diego (fuelled by her home baked goodies) and followed the session with a recording where we dive into the origin of the grip leash concept and how an idea turned into a product which quickly...
2024-12-03
1h 17
The Generic Foiling Podcast
91 - Franks Foilboards
Frank’s boards have had people murmuring and whatsapping naughty photos back and forth for a while now. We were lucky enough to see them in the flesh in Hood River…our man Luke wouldn't shut up about getting hold of one. Liam managed to have a good chat with him in the states on the AXIS stand at AWSI. Surprisingly, stood in front of a couple of Frank made boards with full red Axis livery and logos, when asked what the deal is between Frank and Adrian (Axis), they both laughed and replied with “we don’t know y...
2024-11-25
1h 59
The Generic Foiling Podcast
86 - Dylan Shewfelt - X FOILS PODCAST & N1 Watersports/Kite Puerto Rico
Dylan Shewfelt - everybody's favourite 'Uncle Knobhead' Liam was invited a while ago now to the 2023 North Dealer Meeting in Portugal to review some kites for IKsurf and TONIC Magazine. There, he bumped into Dylan and instantly decided they would be friends. As someone else who was there not only to try the new products but to also hunt for the best conditions possible to try said products. No point trying wave kit in flat water conditions, right?! Fast forward to our little AWSI trip and they got to...
2024-10-15
1h 37
The Generic Foiling Podcast
85 - Johnny Heineken & Kenny Lad
Johnny might not need any introduction to anyone that has been interested in windsports for a while, but they might need a hand picking him out of a crowd as he masks himself and lurks in the shadows. Ken Adgate introduced us to this hooded fella, hood elastic synched tight to cover as much of his face as possible, and also wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses.... it was only the one and only Johnny Heineken! This was a super fun, super relaxed episode recorded on the grass of the 2024 AWSI event site in...
2024-10-06
42 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
84 - Fred Hope and Slingshot
A chap we'd been hoping to pin down for a while - we were lucky enough to do so in Slingshot's offices in Hood River. We escaped the heat of the day mooching round an air cooled office to end up sitting on a balcony in the shade, overlooking the entire event going on below us. Fred is one of those foilers who you can spot a mile off. His kitefoil riding changed the game and it is very difficult not to notice his insane freeriding ability when he's on the water. Nowadays he's...
2024-09-27
57 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
83 - Cynthia 'CYNBAD' Brown - Ambassador of Adrenaline
Please welcome Cynthia ‘Cynbad’ Brown onto the podcast. We got to sit down and chat with Cynthia while she was over from Hawaii and working on the Ozone stand at the AWSI show. She is an absolute whirlwind of a character, a legend in our sports, and has stories to keep us all listening for hours. Competing in windsurfing in the 80’s through to pioneering hobby parachute downwinding now, she’s been a part of it all. The random fact that Laird Hamilton taught her to surf should say it all - you’re going to e...
2024-09-20
1h 14
The Generic Foiling Podcast
82 - CODE FOILS - Ben & Marcus Tardrew
If you’re expecting a techy debrief into the products the boys at Code have been churning out, this isn’t the podcast for you. The brothers had been on the stand chatting tech all day and were knackered - if you’re after tech, check other peoples videos from the stands on the Youtube. We put beers in their hands and chatted about everything else instead. What a great story these two have - spending all their life savings to start up something of their own and having the wildest year of their lives...
2024-09-16
1h 33
The Generic Foiling Podcast
81 - Ken Adgate and Luke Atkinson
One of the cool things about this trip we're finding is being able to stick microphones in interesting peoples faces anytime we're all sat around hanging out, and (hopefully) it not being weird. Big Aussie Luke has been hanging out for us since the AWSI event finished, and we've had a couple mornings sat around in Kenny's garage shooting the shit. As always thats when the best stuff gets discussed and so we switched the coffee machine on and sat there a bit longer. A properly split episode...
2024-09-10
1h 14
The Generic Foiling Podcast
80 - Mr FOILDRIVE - Paul Martin
An interview that's been in the works for a long time - the FoilDrive gang have been really supportive of what we do for a good while now (god knows why), so its been awesome to catch up with the team out here in AmeTrica. This is exactly how we wanted interviews to take place at the event site - Mr FoilDrive himself, Paul Martin came wandering over to get some space from talking about serious business on the stand and sat down with us to chat shit about anything else BUT FoilDrive. Eventually...
2024-09-07
1h 16
The Generic Foiling Podcast
79 - AWSI First Impressions
There's been so much going on in such a short space of time here, its difficult to keep up with everything and we want our listeners to come along for the ride as much as possible. Its difficult to know how and when to release interviews and videos to you all in an orderly fashion! Before we went into the actual event yesterday for the first live day, we sat in the car park and dissected some thoughts on our first couple of days being around the local area. ...
2024-09-05
32 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
78 - 1st Day at the Hatchery - Hood River - USA!
In Hood River OFFICIAL now - at the Hatchery! We sit and process the first hours in America as we overlook the spot and chat nonsense with Wieger from Appletree. We are prioritising the stocking of ice and beers in the cooler at all times so donations to buymeacoffee.com/gfpodcast are more important than ever to get the industry folk talking.
2024-09-02
33 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
77 - We're headed to America!
We're back, and we're off to America tomorrow! All thanks to our listeners for supporting us on the BuymeaCoffee page - you've made this entire thing possible and we really appreciate it. We also definitely feel the pressure to provide some bitchin' content while were out there - and promise to muscle our way into as many interviews as possible while we're stateside! Chris popped round this morning to discuss the extremely loose plans for our trip, but also to give more info on his own event in October...
2024-08-30
1h 15
The Generic Foiling Podcast
76 - A Brief Catchup at the Olympics with Team GB
For anyone who wasn't aware - the Olympics are currently in full flow in Paris, and we have a few friends over there right now that we were very keen to catch up with prior to the racing starting on Sunday 4th! We've chatted to UK's Olympic Numero Uno female racer Ellie before in episode 56 for anyone that wants a bit more depth into her kite racing, as well as Olympic Coach Stevie (episode 65) who joins us today alongside the worlds top kite caddy and race commentator Jemima. Its...
2024-08-02
27 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
75 - Mark Shinn
Fuelled by; post-session stoke, pizza, and beer we enjoy a thorough breakdown of Mark Shinn's history whilst deviating away from the chronological timeline regularly along the way. It is a long podcast but every minute is worth listening to. There is plenty of legitimate discussion about equipment, manufacturing, the industry as a whole as well as downwinding/foiling technique and gear tips as well. We talk about the origin of the Shinn brand and a little about why we've heard nothing from them in the past months. There will definietely be a part 2 for...
2024-07-29
2h 44
The Generic Foiling Podcast
74 - We are downwinderer's now!
Forgive me foilers, for I have sinned!
2024-07-01
1h 19
The Generic Foiling Podcast
73 - Klaas Voget / DUOTONE Foiling Division Manager
We've finally done it. Duotone is on the podcast We've given the mighty brand a little (barely any) grief in our relatively brief existance, but it was time to set the story straight - enter windsurf legend and Dutone Foiling Division Manager, Klaas Voget. Like, Comment, Subscribe, Join our OnlyFans, all that stuff.
2024-06-17
1h 51
The Generic Foiling Podcast
72 - Zane Westwood
The second Aussie Foil Fest was held very recently, and we were reminded that we hadn't yet sat down and chatted with the organiser - Zane Westwood. Zanes been at the forefront of all things foiling for a good number of years now so its great to get his insight into the intricacys of chopping ones rear wing down, and his thoughts on the chopped tail board shapes too.... sounds like the aussie lot haver had yet another successful foil comp over on the east coast, with fan favourite Jezza taking the...
2024-06-10
1h 21
The Generic Foiling Podcast
71 - Dipping our toes in the water
'da fuck did we talk about then for the description of this episode?' 'Lift foils/testing foils/burning sessions/duotone whizz/flite controversy/ Bennett’s/selling stuff/altruism/summer events' There you go - description done! We need to get back chatting to guests ASAP. Freddies using all his energy going to work SUP demo's and hasn't been foiling recently - which means more of Liams droning on about things in the foiling world that frustrate and/or excite him enjoy!...
2024-05-30
55 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
70 - Newquay Summertime - We've had a breakthrough with the prone game!
Its finally happened, we've had an actual run of successful prone conditions! We've spent the last week both winging and proning in some great small conditions and the progress has been awesome. Cornish Foil Frother Phil reached out to us, very kindly offering up his AirBnB for us to scope out within walking distance of some of the best beaches in Newquay. He's had a quiet start to the summer and we're all hoping a 10% offer to any foiler mentioning the GFP on booking will entice some of you fellow frothers out of your...
2024-05-22
1h 12
The Generic Foiling Podcast
69 - Steph & Eric Bridge (Edge Watersports)
This week we welcome Lord and Lady Bridge of Exmouth to our little show. Famous across the county and further afield in the wing/kite industry and incredibly well regarded - nobody forgets meeting Steph and Eric Bridge. From starting a small sailing school back in the 80's in their home town of Exmouth, to now running one of the most successful kite/wing schools and shops in the UK - The Bridges have seen it all. Multiple world titles for Steph in a fledgling kite race scene, followed by guiding their 3 boys (Olly...
2024-05-13
1h 10
The Generic Foiling Podcast
68 - The Salmon
Freddie's away so Liam has a chat with local boy Jack Salmon. A name that is already likely to be known by UK folk, Jack has the potential to take things further in the watersports industry once he has got his degree out of the way. Not only is he a talented waterman that excels in every discipline he takes his hand to, but he's an energetic creative that also enjoys his time behind the camera and producing videos. I'm sure we'll see more and more from the salmon as time goes...
2024-05-02
1h 17
The Generic Foiling Podcast
67 - Child's Play / Like taking candy from a baby
Some more childish banter in response to some comments made online recently that we thought needed addressing....... There is some foil chat here though, don't fret. Ken Adgate jumps in with a voice note to give us some answers to questions we've had from listeners about how to engage in flat water wing shenanigans. We dissect how these potential 'party tricks' may actually become quite useful in more serious conditions once mastered. Some more thoughts on the Industry currently along the lines of Gong pushing harder into kiting and...
2024-04-23
59 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
66 - Wieger Buurma No.2 - Appletree's New Appleslice V3
We welcome Wieger back finally, after chatting to him way back at the start of 2023. His best selling Appleslice model is being renewed for the 3rd Version and so it seemed like a great excuse to rope him back in. I'm sure we did discuss the new board at least a little bit but as always its the ramblings in other directions that made this chat so much fun once again. Great guy, great brand - we hope you enjoy this one. And if you haven't listened to the first episode we did with...
2024-04-17
2h 02
The Generic Foiling Podcast
65 - Old Olympians that foil
Ben Rhodes and Stevie Morrison join us this week for a couple beers in Liams flat. They partnered together in the 49'er sailing fleet way back when, winning multiple world championships and representing Great Britain in the 2008 and 2012 Olympics. Exmouth locals, they're both now into their coaching of both Olympic kite foil racing and sailing while being well into their own personal foiling journeys - Stevie loves his winging and Ben's got his eyes fixated on mastering Downwinding..... Two great fellas with a lot of good stories from their...
2024-04-02
2h 08
The Generic Foiling Podcast
64 - Pure Journalism
Multiple sessions this week just gone, we've had some great powered conditions to play in! Jezza's traffic light power zones has worked its wonders on Freddie's wiggles on the wave.... Liams had his mind on some board building ideas and we hear from Ken Adgate briefly for some thoughts to discuss. More Room 101 points from our own dear listeners! Give us a shout on the socials and say hello - lets see your t-shirts anyone who's got them?! Speaking of T-shirts..... we still have some podcast logo tee's from the first...
2024-03-26
50 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
63 - The three amigos ft. Jeremy Wilmotte
It'd been too long, we've been overdue a good chat with our man over in Aus. Today Jeremy joins us as a co-host of sorts and we catch up on the coming and goings. I'm writing this on Sunday evening and Liam and I just finished a 20 mile running race today, its safe to say my brain isn't quite computing anything yet (neither of us would classify ourselves as runners. I promise this episode with the Big Fella is a good one, i just can't quite remember what the hell we talked about it.....
2024-03-18
2h 07
The Generic Foiling Podcast
62 - Kane De Wilde
Kane shouldn't need an introduction - he's been around long enough in the foiling space, producing hugely popular after market rear wings to suit every brand's kit. But now he's working solidly at KT as a designer we were keen to hear plans! Liam and Kane waffle on almost straight away into techy foil designs..... and as always, Freddie brings it back in line for the masses with a mixture of shit chat and bad jokes. Hope everyones well - its been cranking in the UK the last few...
2024-03-11
1h 28
The Generic Foiling Podcast
61 - Sunday Chinwags - Opinions are like Arseholes, everyones got one
After Ken's episode blew up last week, we're back with a nice chilled Sunday evening chat. Plenty to discuss and catch up on - despite Liam and I spending all weekend together already. Our T-shirts are available to buy!! Message on the socials for now for more info.... GWA Ponta Preta - Surf/Surf Freestyle?? Guy Bridge's Downwind Video on youtube - search for it! Liams revelation into HM masts...... 2 years after their release. What small front wing should Liam get for the bigger days we're hoping are coming? Hope everyones...
2024-03-04
51 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
60 - Ken Adgate - King of the Tacks
We get into it with Ken Adgate, a man with fingers in many pies. Shredder, board builder, un/official test rider for Ozone and Mikeslab and gas guzzling car dealership owner in the US of A. We've been fans from a far of Kens for a long while, and if you've not seen footage of him riding yet you will be soon enough too. We hit the big time though after Ken listened to a few episodes and actually enjoyed them - he's very picky with his podcast listening it seems. We won him over...
2024-02-26
2h 01
The Generic Foiling Podcast
59 - Sunday Chinwags
A Sunday mornings ramble over a few items written hastily into an agenda - as is becoming a fun tradition. t-shirt chat The Sydney Downwind race F-One's handle decisions.... longer fuses bigger boards (again)
2024-02-19
57 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
58 - Olivia Piana
We've been planning to sit down with Olivia ever since she did her world record downwind challenge, but we've never been able to make it work - she's so busy! This week was the week, even having to bail the first time because Liam was caught by the dreaded Covid...... A great chat was had though - as we'd suspected! Olivia runs us through the current goings on in her life including a very fun sounding trip to Tenerife to shoot with the AXIS crew. We catch up on the Downwind challenge she did last...
2024-02-13
1h 32
The Generic Foiling Podcast
57 - A Van Chat - Some Dicks of Foiling
A quick one today, en route back from the beach after a mixed session. As always Liam has things on his mind that he wishes to share with the foiling world, and Freddie couldn't give a damn and is happy to go along with it.....consider this an audio opinion piece. Some potentially dickish things have occurred in the foiling world this past week or two - and we need your help to decide who's the dick! As always - rate us 5 stars on whatever platform you use, leave a sarcastic comment or give us some abusive feedback on the...
2024-02-05
43 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
56 - Ellie Aldridge - The UK's Olympic Hopeful
Ellie is a kite racer. A very good kite racer. She's qualified for the Olympics in July 2024 to represent the UK - which means she takes foiling far more seriously than Liam and Freddie do. This week she gives us a run down of the entire Olympic process - which despite an interest in the Kitefoil racing we were pretty unaware of. She runs us through her background from 49erFX sailing to learning to kitefoil in a rapidly evolving world. Ellie's also been ramping up her wing foil and...
2024-01-29
1h 34
The Generic Foiling Podcast
55 - Secret Special Guest | Foil Drivering | Eating Humble Pie | Finger Blasting and more
A lovely catch up and debrief on the previous weeks shenanigans between Freddie and Liam is very rudely interrupted by Mr FoilDrive Europe himself again - the man can't help but Plug! What actually happened is Freddie enjoyed his time finger blasting on the FoilDrive the previous week so much, that Liam thought it'd be funny to get Dom involved to tell him 'I bloody told you so'....... We discuss our findings of some pretty serious time on the Foildrive and a SUP foil finally before Dom jumps in. Thanks...
2024-01-22
1h 20
The Generic Foiling Podcast
54 - Clinton Filen - AK , Airush and Freewing - Brand and Development Director
Clinton Filen is the Brand and Development Director for AK Durables, Freewing and Airush Kiteboarding. That's a pretty sick title. Mike Birt was all excited about his new found fame off the back of Episode 52 and very kindly passed on our details to Clinton in order to get him on ASAP. A great, chilled chat with a very bright bloke in charge of another major player in the Industry. Based out of South Africa, Clinton gives us a run down of the Cape Town scene, while giving us a great background into his beginnings and...
2024-01-15
1h 39
The Generic Foiling Podcast
53 - Welcome to Brown Town
A nice steady start to 2024 for us - Freddie needed a gentle chat to ease him in after finding out first hand why everyones so pissed off about sewage outlets releasing straight into the UK's coastal beach towns water.... We've also had numerous sessions over a busy Christmas period while the winds been howling over here. Most notably is the fateful browntown session of Freddies on NYE where he did a sizeable 'wingdingdownwinder' alongside a few SUP foilers and has seen the light! Liams got plenty going on...
2024-01-08
59 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
52 - WangLordz Christmas Special
Its Christmas time, so what better way to celebrate than to get the 4 Wanglordz into a hot tub and ply them with beers for many hours? It wasn't all merryment... we surprised ourselves with the amount of legitimate foiling-related chat. Rich and Chris give us the run down on the 'new generation' of foils that are hitting the market that promise huge speed ranges, and combined glide and pumpability that we haven't seen until now. Freddie tells the story of the downwind session with Liam in North Cornwall that resulted in his 3.6m wing...
2023-12-25
2h 05
The Generic Foiling Podcast
51 - Mike Birt - Armchair Economics
This week we chat with Mike Birt - another OG of the UK wind sports scene. An ex pro windsurf athlete from back when that was cool, to the very first British Kitesurf Champion. He's been working in the industry for a very, very long time and is currently Distributor for Airush, AK, Shinn and Freewing. What better person to start off a little series with a more indepth look at the UK windsports industry. He's been forever known as a straight talker and obviously we thought that would go hand in hand with our little podcast!
2023-12-18
2h 09
The Generic Foiling Podcast
50 - The Big 5 0 - Liam and Freddie back in the hot seats
Its been emotional, but we've made it to 50 bloody episodes. Back to our roots with episodes like this - hope you enjoy it. We discuss a few of the most recent goings on in the foiling world - most importantly, our Manera Socks R&D work has been delayed until the new year. We won't blame Julien though as he's just as annoyed as us to have to ask Santa for new socks instead of making his own...... HM masts, Foildrive's, Ozone Fusions, Guy Bridge's impressive list of breaking stuff - we...
2023-12-11
1h 13
The Generic Foiling Podcast
49 - Nick Leason - Lift Foils
This week the Generic Foiling Podcast is back at you with one of foiling’s big dogs and one of the real OGs, Nick Leason of Lift Foils. Tune in to learn about the history of the sport as a whole, and the early development of the products which paved the way for the refined flying machines we ride today. Nick tells the Lift story, how the brand came to be, the successes and mistakes it has taken to get to where they are now, and how he sees the future both personally, and from a business perspective. Nick tells us...
2023-12-04
1h 38
The Generic Foiling Podcast
48 - InstaKahi - Sustainable Coastlines and Drum n Bass
Liam doesn't follow many foilers on instagram, but he's been fan girling over Kahi for months. Someone who doesn't take themselves too seriously yet rips on the ole foil sticks - what more could we want We had a great chat online with the man himself - talking about his work with Sustainable Coastlines Hawaii , foil style, Lift foils and his infatuation of Drum n Bass music..... Give him a follow at @instakahi to follow along the fun.
2023-11-27
1h 51
The Generic Foiling Podcast
47 - Julien Salles - F-One Foils and Manera Socks
A fantastic chat with the man in charge of one of the most successful companies in foiling. Julien Salles is the General Manager of F-One - he runs all disciplines of the company including his own personal baby, Manera. The son of the founder, Julien gives us a run down of how his position within the business has changed over the years and how it was during the early years of F-One. F-one shouldn't need any introduction to anyone in foiling - they hit the nail on the head...
2023-11-15
1h 48
The Generic Foiling Podcast
46 - Kernow Foil Classic Debrief (The event of the year!!!)
This is a big one! The Kernow Foil Classic will go down in all time history as one of the most significant events in foiling in the UK (and worldwide in our biased opinion). It deserved a proper debrief, especially given that Freddie wasn't there! All founding Wang Lordz committed to driving an hour or so to meet up at a central location in a pub on the A30. The first 4 way conversation we've done, and we've done it with pints, mixel grills and bloody football on in the background.... lets just say the editing was time consuming.
2023-11-02
1h 24
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45 - Chris Burke Becomes a Wang Lord - Kernow Foil Classic Surf Comp
The boys are back in town! Freddie and Liam get Chris Burke back on to provide the inside scoop on the upcoming Poseidon Kernow Foil Classic which is proudly supported by the Generic Foiling Podcast, Kite Barn and the WanglordZ. The prizes we are donating will set a new precedent within watersports competitions worldwide. In this episode we also chat about: - Some half truths to do with Mikes Lab - Some unsubstantiated rumours - How wing freestyle might have become cool - How everything in...
2023-10-11
1h 26
The Generic Foiling Podcast
44 - Dominic Hoskyns - Foil Drive European lead & Axis Foils ambassador
In this episode the boys find out all about Dom's Foiling story, his history with Foil Drive and his new venture with them. He will be the European lead responsible for growing the Foil Drive market in Europe and getting as many people on it as possible. We find out where he first saw foiling, where and when he first tried it, how he became so good at dockstarting, and how he ended up being the first commercial customer of Foil Drive instead of buying an e-foil.
2023-09-24
1h 41
The Generic Foiling Podcast
43 - We're going to the AWSI..... Next Year
Liam and Freddie back chatting shit about all things foiling on their respective sofa's AWSI 2024 Thoughts and plans Foil Drive Thoughts SUP Foiling and Downwind boards Dutone/Fanatic merger
2023-09-11
58 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
42 - Keith Teboul - KT Foiling
Keith Teboul - the head shaper behind KT Surfing / KT Foiling / Quatro Maui / Goya Windsurfing / MFC Hawaii as well as an all around waterman in his own right. In this episode we talk about: - Keith Teboul's story - The origins of the brands - The aftermath of the Maui wildfires - The state of the leisure goods industry - is it fucked? - The construction differences between windsurfing boards and foiling boards, are there further advantages from windsurf board construction methodology in the future? ...
2023-08-29
1h 15
The Generic Foiling Podcast
41 - Sam Light and Slingshot
Sam Light, everybody. One of the OG wakestyle Kite Crew from back when that was cool, now turned Slingshot Sports Global Marketing and Social media and very recently Ex Team Manager. Avid Wing and kitefoiler, and Youtube sensation! Sam is a great ambassador of our sports, and one of the highest level riders our beautiful country has ever produced. He's now turned his hand to working within in the Industry while also growing a very healthy following on his own Youtube Channel which we urge you all to go along and follow...
2023-08-21
1h 28
The Generic Foiling Podcast
40 - Oskar Johansson
Fresh off his awesome 2nd place finish at M2O in Hawaii, we finally get to sit down with Oskar and chat. Big Jimmy C ruined our chances of talking to 'Oscar the winner of M20', and so first placed loser is all we managed to get, but we'll make do! (Those of you who can't take a joke ought to unfollow us) We've been pinging messages back and forth for months, casually flirting away and finally the perfectly scheduled time slot opened up for us all. What a great bloke and even...
2023-08-07
2h 07
The Generic Foiling Podcast
39 - The WangLordz Return
The WangLordZ return. We've not sat down together for a while, its been busy! Rich is buggering off to see his brother in NZ for a good few weeks so we made an effort to head down to Bantham for a session and a chinwag afterwards. Fuelled by Coffee and bacon we dissect the goings on of the last few weeks including Rich and Liams trips out to Portugal for the North Dealer Meeting last month, as well as Rich's trip to the Appletree factory. Enjoy our own reviews...
2023-07-31
1h 27
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38 - Armie Armstrong & Armstrong Foils
We finally managed to schedule in a sit down with Mr Armstrong after weeks of trying - the mans been all over the shop recently and finding a time zone was proving difficult! From New Zealand to China to the States to Maui, he has been all over in the last couple of months! We ended up having a fantastic couple of hours discussing all things Foiling and Armstrong as well as his recent completion of the Maui to Molokai downwind race in preperation for the big Molokai to Oahu later this month.
2023-07-25
1h 55
The Generic Foiling Podcast
37 - Uli Sommerlatt North Product Development Manager
Liam was in Portugal recently for the 2023 North Dealer meeting working with the iKsurfmag and Tonic media team. He managed to sit down with Uli Sommerlatt (North Product Development Manager) with the particular focus. What does the North product design process look like? How much do North compare their product offerings to their competitors? Do North still feeling they are ‘playing catch up’ in the industry and what products can we expect soon?
2023-07-17
1h 26
The Generic Foiling Podcast
36 - Adrian Roper and AXIS Foils
With the all New Spitfire range from AXIS dropping worldwide, we managed to persuade Adrian Roper to join us on the podcast! Very happy about this one, Liam and I had a great time recording it and it was awesome to finally get to ask Adrian some questions we'd be considering for a long while. For me (Freddie), Adrian was the first person I wanted as a guest when Liam and i started talking about doing some podcasting - a super interesting bloke with a great background in windsurfing, kitesurfing and now foiling.
2023-07-04
2h 08
The Generic Foiling Podcast
36 - Short Stories with Industry Veterans Part 2
The second part to our 'Littlehampton Short Stories' Series 4 interviews with Industry sales reps to get their hopefully honest, individual opinions and thoughts on the Industry and their and brands that they work with. A real variety with these four: Nik Green - @watersportsworlduk - North and Mystic Nik Baker - Fanatic and Duotone Windsurf and Wing Tom Beaton - @maxtrack.distribution - Ozone, Appletree, AXIS Dom Yule - @tkcdistribution - F-one We hope you enjoy these - they were super fun to record with the guys, so relaxing and so insightful.
2023-06-26
1h 11
The Generic Foiling Podcast
35 - Rob Whittall - Part 2
This is Part 2! We had a bloody great time chatting to Rob this week, so much so we spent 2.5hours chatting. He actually admitted at the end that he forgot we were recording! Because of this, we've split it into 2 chats. If you like technical chat, you'll like this episode. If you like industry chat, you'll like this episode. If you like Rob, you'll like this episode. If you like high tech new material chat, you'll like this episode. And, if you like knob jokes, you'll like this episode!
2023-06-22
1h 04
The Generic Foiling Podcast
34 - Rob Whittall - Ozone Co-Founder and Lead Designer - Part 1
We had a bloody great time chatting to Rob this week, so much so we spent 2.5hours chatting. He actually admitted at the end that he forgot we were recording! Because of this, we've split it into 2 chats - one today, one later on in the week. If you like technical chat, you'll like this episode. If you like industry chat, you'll like this episode. If you like Rob, you'll like this episode. If you like high tech new material chat, you'll like this episode. And, if you like knob jokes, you'll like this episode!
2023-06-19
1h 20
The Generic Foiling Podcast
33 - Short Stories with our favourite Industry Vets
Episode 33 see's us trying something different again - we're doing live interviews now. But don't worry, we're just as bad at these as we are doing regular 'studio' recordings. Shaky microphones, loud noises and interuptions everywhere - those of you after prime audio will be spitting feathers! However, it only seemed right to get some wisdom from the Industry veterans on the beach in Littlehampton this weekend just gone, and try show you the listeners some insight into the inner workings of some of the brands we know and love.
2023-06-13
56 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
32 - Wake foiling, F-ones HM Carbon masts and E-Foiling experience
Today Liam and Freddie catch up together to discuss a few new topics as well as dissecting recent sessions - Liams interested in finding out more about why Wake foiling hasn't taken off as much over here in the UK and we discuss whether we think it will or not. Liam has been in comms with Charles, F-One designer again asking technical questions on the new HM masts from the brand. Charles tells us the design ideas around the latest offerings. The King of the Roads event in Falmouth a couple weeks back and the downwinding chat hosted...
2023-06-05
1h 00
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31 - Jeremy Willmotte - The Future of Big Wave Foiling
Hot off the back of some insane swells that got 'wedding cake island' break off the coast of Sydney firing, Jeremy joins us for a catch up to relive the days and discuss the future of big wave foiling, and the gear needed to push things forward. Check out his socials if you haven't already to see some pics and look out for more footage coming soon. @oceanpixels Always great to catch up with Jeremy and hear what its like foiling these monsters he keeps finding. Jeremy also managed to not balls up the audio on his side this time...
2023-05-29
1h 01
The Generic Foiling Podcast
30 - Chris Burke - Poseidon Watersports
Welcome to Chris Burke onto the podcast - a good friend of ours and top shredder who runs a successful kite and wing school in Poole while now taking on a new shop Venture in Newquay. I've known Chris for many years and it was high time we got his intel and knowledge onto the podcast. He's got a great grasp on the industry as a whole while also knowing how to style out his riding on the water. Winging and foiling have transformed his water time as it has the rest of us...
2023-05-22
1h 16
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29 - New Toys? SAB Leviathon, F-one SK8, we've actually had some great sessions, and why is my Mast not bubbly like a golf ball?
Freddie and Liam sit down to discuss the goings on of the last few weeks! Multiple sessions, Wing and Prone, a nice dissection of them all Freddie's first go on a SAB Foil Leviathon 1750 - a monster of a dock start foil. Liams new SK8 from F-One turned up Surface finishes on foiling kit and why it ain't ribbed for your pleasure We wanted to sit down and catch up after a few weeks of interviews - we still like doing these together! And we've got some more interviews lined up...
2023-05-15
56 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
28 - Casey Catch Up | GFP Edition - Code Foils
The plan was to sit down with old mate Jimmy for a 10-15 minute catch up on his new venture with Code Foils - but Liam and James ended up chatting for ages, so we're releasing it as a solo episode. Maybe this is a new side to GFP once in a while, smaller catch ups with interviewees about certain subjects that are hitting the limelight. The boys discuss: -The origins of Code Foils -The team behind the brand -How he ended up involved -Foil development
2023-05-09
56 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
27 - Tom Earl - Prone Surfing in the UK
Please welcome Tom Earl onto the Podcast - A member of Unifoils international team of riders and undoubtably the UK's most prominent prone foil surfer. Freddie was down in Cornwall a couple weeks back and managed to persuade Tom to come for a chinwag over Zoom with Liam back in Devon. We managed a mini session beforehand but Freddie ballsed up the timings and got in at the wrong tide, only to watch Tom smashing a few waves before getting out as the waves dissapeared..... Tom may have only...
2023-05-01
1h 37
The Generic Foiling Podcast
26 - F-One's Foil and Board Designer - Charles Bertrand
This week we got to chat with Charles Bertrand, a naval architect who's worked as part of the foil and board design team at F-One for approx 12 years. Liam talks all things engineering with Charles, learning how they go from a new product brief to a fully working item on the market, while Freddie twiddles his thumbs in the corner not really understanding much of what the other two talk about. What've F-one got in the pipeline? Where does the company aim to place itself in the market? How does using less HM carbon...
2023-04-24
1h 10
The Generic Foiling Podcast
25 - Poems with Proctor, Dealing with bad crashes, Gong thoughts and ideas for a real life event of our own
A real mish mash of ideas in this weeks episode, starting with our new section called 'Poems with Proctor'. After last weeks episode with Mike Raper there were major calls for more Poetry to be read out by Liam (not really, but we thought we'd do more anyway). Can you guess which promotional video this weeks poem is from?? We discuss a session in Bantham once more that could've ended a lot worse than it did, but was still very slightly terrifying for Freddie - we all have bad sessions, its just a case...
2023-04-05
46 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
24 - Mike Raper - North Foiling
This week we sat across Zoom to chat to Mike Raper - Brand Manager and Co-founder at North Kiteboarding and North Foils, all the way over in Auckland, NZ. Mikes been around the watersports industry for a very long time and has held numerous senior positions within it - initially with the Pryde Group and Cabrinha Kites, and now running the ever successful North Kiteboarding and North Foils. Liam and I both enjoyed Mikes interview on the Progression Project back in October 2022, and jumped at the chance to have a chin wag with him...
2023-03-27
1h 48
The Generic Foiling Podcast
23 - Welcome to Bantham
We're both house sitting in the South Hams for a couple of weeks and its going well for managing to get into the water most days in some very varied conditions. Only one wing session, but a couple of kite sessions and a couple more prone sessions has seen some progression across the board. Today we delve into these sessions as well as having a natter about a few things: our rookie interpretation into the current GWA wing foil world cup events Windows and materials on Wings The red card in Saturdays Six...
2023-03-20
42 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
22 - Jeremy Willmotte Spills all
This week we welcome big wave shredder, Professional Hydrologist and juggler of 3 boys Jeremy Wilmotte onto the Podcast. The Aussie crew started churning out the downwind content a little while ago, and while all the boys put up some awesome footage it was Jeremy's humour within the downwind discipline that caught our eyes and ears. This meant we were always eager to see his next video and commentary on how difficult a discipline it is and watch his progression. We reached out on instagram, gave him some shit and the rest is history. A great c...
2023-03-15
2h 37
The Generic Foiling Podcast
21 - Will Foiling be Banned?
Welcome back to a week with Liam and Freddie! We catch up on a busy couple of weeks after our last two episodes released were interviews. Check out Episodes 19 and 20 with Wieger from Appletree boards and Rob Claisse from Progression instructional kite and foil coaching - these were both great chats and very well recieved by those who have listened already. We've had three wing sessions and a couple of Prone sessions in the time since these episodes were released, and theres plenty to dissect from them! Liams got himself a blank from the boys...
2023-03-06
57 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
20 - Rob Claisse - Kite & Wing Foil Progression
Rob Claisse is the man behind 'Progression'. Originally a DVD coaching platform assisting many learning to Kitesurf, it now encompasses his 1 to 1 coaching and his foiling vacations and clinics. A master on a kitefoil, rapidly improving on the wing and one of the most analytical and experienced coaches in the game, he is a pleasure to talk to and has a lot of knowledge to share. In this episode, Rob's passion for the sports and passion for coaching is obvious. He gives us a personal and profressional history, general tips to optimise your attitude to progression and...
2023-02-27
1h 58
The Generic Foiling Podcast
19 - Wieger Buurma - Appletree Surfboards Founder
A great episode for those of you interested in the nitty gritty side of board design and the best in the business production methodology. Wieger is the Co-founder and head shaper for Appletree Surfboards. In this episode he explains how Appletree set themselves apart from the competition and came to manufacture boards with their vacuum infusion production process and why this is so suitable for both the kite surfboards, for which they first became well known, and PERFECT for any foil board which needs to be light, stiff and durable. Wieger talks us through the origins and g...
2023-02-20
1h 56
The Generic Foiling Podcast
18 - Surf Foiling - Why do we even bother???
Sitting down with James Casey last week was awesome and we've had some great feedback from listeners about it - particularly about the fitness side of things, or lack of it... We sat down after our second (Freddie) and third (Liam) Prone/Surf foil sessions in the last two weeks, and what an emotional couple of weeks its been! This is certainly testing our limits and its fair to say we aren't finding it very easy. We discuss the highs and lows of learning to prone foil and why its taking so long, as well...
2023-02-13
59 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
17 - James Casey - How to Downwind
Episode 17 - James Casey - Coach Casey Club We FINALLY got the chance to sit down with James and discuss all things Downwinding. This was our chance to learn how to Downwind in a 2 hour discussion from one of the best in the business (We're yet to put that to the test on the water but James told us everything we'd need to know - how hard can it be now?!). Waterman Extraordinaire, James Casey's following has grown as downwind foiling has become more popular and is now on a tonne of foilers' radars. James...
2023-02-06
2h 09
The Generic Foiling Podcast
16 - Wang Lordz - Liam, Freddie and Rich
Episode 16 see's us sitting down with Richy B of Episide 12 fame for a threeway conversation, discussing our freezing session a couple weeks back at Daymer Bay in Cornwall and leading into many different winging conversations. Harnesses - yay or nay? Maybe super useful when its sub 10 degrees water and air temperature.... What Safety techniques do we use for ditching kit when having waves crash on us? Rich's thoughts on the Smaller board debate after listening to Episode 14 What're these new MA wings about? Hard or Soft Handles on wing and our thoughts on them Is Richy gonna be...
2023-01-30
1h 29
The Generic Foiling Podcast
15 - Jake Kelsick & Antigua
Check Jake out: https://kelsickkiteboarding.com/ @jakekelsick @kelsickkiteboarding Podcast Summary: Jake Kelsick is a professional kiteboarder, a long term professional in the watersports industry, founder and owner of his own kitesurfing/wingfoiling school in Antigua and one of the best online content creators out there. 00:00 intro 05:40 About Jake Kelsick & his intro to watersports and inspirations 08:35 Jake's school and his foil coaching system 10:05 Jake's foiling journey 13:45 Jake's wingfoil setup 15:50 North Sonar HA 850 16:35 Jake's riding style and motivations 21:05 Jake's journey into youtube and online content creation 25:05 The future 33:55 Experimenting with different gear & North Kiteboarding & foils. 42:35 "Study it as a business" & "Find yourself...
2023-01-23
48 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
14 - Low volume sinker boards - Has Liam been won over?
Liam and Freddie are back and more hyped than ever for The Generic Foiling Podcast in 2023. The conditions lined up for a homespot session in Exmouth together the day after Liam's return from Antigua so the boys got to wing together then record the first podcast of the year in person. In this episode the boys discuss the benefits and restrictions of low volume wing boards as Liam has spent a lot of time on the 41L North swell board. Listen to find out what he thinks of this particular model and what you should consider before...
2023-01-15
1h 19
The Generic Foiling Podcast
13 - Mast Stiffness - Alloy or Carbon? Regular carbon or High Modulus?
Liam and Freddie sit down at opposite ends of the world and discuss what Liams been up to in Antigua and how it is a wing/kite spot. We then get into a conversation on mast stiffness and Liam gets stuck into the techy side of carbon constructions - what actually is High Modulus and why is it the talk of the town at the moment? We've also had a good amount of listeners reaching out with questions and feedback that we'll hopefully aim to work through properly as...
2022-12-24
1h 20
The Generic Foiling Podcast
12 - Big Richy B 'The Godfather of UK Winging'
Big Rich Boughton lives in South Devon, and it was on the journeys to see Rich at his home spot of Bantham that Liam and I came up with the idea of starting to record a podcast to see if anyone was interested in our ramblings. Rich runs www.Kitebarn.co.uk - a front of house website to showcase his online retail outlet as well as his kite and wing repair business. In his 'spare' time, Rich is the technical editor of 'The Foiling Magazine' and 'The Kite Mag' (the latter of which his wife Sarah...
2022-12-05
1h 09
The Generic Foiling Podcast
11 - Swift Foiling
Liams away in Antigua, so Freddie sits down all alone with Dom and Angus from Swift Foiling to discuss their business making foil boards in the UK, as well as their downwind foiling adventures on the new 'Javelin' style boards they're producing. Is Downwinding worth the effort?!
2022-11-23
1h 07
The Generic Foiling Podcast
10 - Reducing Fuselage size and rear wings tech talk
Our tenth episode - we made it! This week we discuss Freddies recent experience reducing rear wing sizes and Liam attempts to talk Science about the findings. We also discuss the art of reducing a fuselage size and the benefits it can bring As its our tenth episode we dissect the journey we've had so far producing a podcast and discuss our highlights and lowlights, strengths and weaknesses so far. It's been fantastic fun discussing these topics and recording ourselves doing so, and we hope to continue to do so for a long time - we would love to hear f...
2022-11-10
52 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
9 - Rou Chater - Mr IKSURF and TONIC magazine
Liam and Freddie sit down and discussed everything with good friend and allround great guy, Rou Chater - Publisher of both Tonic Foiling magazine and IKSURF magazine, owner of Faceplant Eyewear , Intriguing Beings Podcast host... the list goes on! The man has his fingers in a fair few pies and its great to hear what snippets of info he's picked up along the way. We discuss his foiling story, his testing process for the mags, his thoughts on the kit in the wing industry at the moment as well as a tonne of other random shit that k...
2022-10-28
1h 39
The Generic Foiling Podcast
8 - Our trip to Ireland
This weeks episode see's a lot of waffling on about our recent trip to Ireland. We discuss the many different discipline sessions we had through the week, as well as the new kit we tried along the way. Liams tried SUP Foiling for the first time.... Freddie has a kitemare foiling.... give us a follow on insta and facebook - rate 5 stars on spotify and anywhere else you can!
2022-10-18
52 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
7 - High Aspect Hype
We're back! After a couple weeks of busyness - we've not had a proper chance to catch up with each other since our individual interviews - so we spent some time debriefing, before getting into some in-depth chat on the differences between using High aspect and Mid aspect front wings. Is high aspect all it's cracked up to be?! rate us 5 stars if you enjoy - and get chatting to us on facebook and instagram if you haven't already!
2022-10-04
58 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
6 - Keahi De Aboitiz Interview
Freddie's first solo interview and its with 4x world champ wave kiter and top shredder Keahi De Aboitiz - no pressure there then! Karl Cadwallader from Cabrinha UK kindly offered us the opportunity to chat with Keahi at the Hayling Island BKSA Championship while on their tour of the South Coast here in the UK We hope you enjoy it - we definitely need some practice with the whole interview process, but the whole chat was a load of fun and was real cool to listen to Keahi's Intel
2022-09-13
50 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
5 - Guy Bridge
In this episode we come in all guns blazing as we welcome Guy Bridge as our first guest of the podcast. In our opinion Guy is one of the UK's most rounded waterman and at an expert level in almost all foiling disciplines. Liam sits down with Guy as he shares the timeline of how and when he picked up each new foiling discipline, his favourite gear for all sports, his career highlights and what he'd like to do in the near future. Please do reach out to us with feedback or questions, follow us on the...
2022-09-04
52 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
4 - Mast length - A proper look see into mast lengths and why bigger isn't always better!
Freddie's been off the water with an Ear infection, Liams been on the water plenty. A chat through his first Wing session in 2 whole months, and then a proper indepth chat into mast lengths - what we use for different disciplines and why. Any Questions or suggestions please contact us! thegenericfoilingpod@gmail.com Instagram - @genericfoilingpodcast facebook - genericfoilingpodcast
2022-08-23
58 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
3 - a delve into Liam and Freddie’s winging careers so far
Some questions answered and a decent delve into our own winging careers so far - where we're at level wise and what we're using personally. We got far too carried away talking about ourselves and so our nerdy chat about Mast lengths will have to wait for another day! Any Questions or suggestions please contact us! thegenericfoilingpod@gmail.com Instagram - @genericfoilingpodcast facebook - genericfoilingpodcast
2022-08-16
1h 00
The Generic Foiling Podcast
2 - No longer an experiment
It’s taken some time, but here’s episode two - more ramblings and getting to grips with figuring out what to discuss. We’ve been kite and surf foiling, and we’re discussing the lift equation and what it means for us… Any Questions or suggestions please contact us! thegenericfoilingpod@gmail.com Instagram - @genericfoilingpodcast facebook - genericfoilingpodcast
2022-08-09
40 min
The Generic Foiling Podcast
1 - An Introduction
Unedited and Raw - our first proper go at chatting foiling while pressing record. An introduction into Liam and Freddie and a dive into our motivations behind this Podcast - as well as a look into our latest escapades in deepest Cornwall and what we've learnt so far..... The plan is to do more of these - but obviously if people hate them then there won't be much point, so we're keen to hear as much feedback as possible. Any Questions or suggestions please...
2022-07-31
53 min
Living With Madeley
Series 3 Episode 4 - The Freddie Mercury Story: Who Wants To Live Forever Documentary
In this weeks episode Andrew and Liam take a look back at the 'docudrama' - The Freddie Mercury Story: Who Wants To Live Forever?Was Brian May right to want it pulled? Was the acting as bad as Andrew remembers? Was the real villain of the story the person who chose the wigs for the actors?
2022-04-21
51 min
Chattin Sh*t with Liam Dean
Chattin Sh*t with Liam Dean and Freddie King!
Join me for the last episode of the year as I chat with my best Judy - Freddie King! We talk all things dating disasters and *WARNING* it gets a bit filthy! You can follow Freddie on instagram @freddieking_ to keep up to date with him! Hope you enjoy and I'm wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Loves ya x
2020-12-20
45 min
Episode Party
Episode 31: Still Processing, Football Ramble, IRL (with Liam Edwards)
Liam Edwards (Final Games) joins Jack and Freddie to discuss Still Processing, Football Ramble and IRL. Episode recommendations Still Processing — We Don’t Know Where We Are Football Ramble IRL — Social Bubble Bath Liam Edwards is the host of the excellent Final Games. He's @LiamBME on Twitter, and we're @episode_party.
2018-07-09
52 min