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Chain of ThoughtBeyond Transformers: Maxime Labonne on Post-Training, Edge AI, and the Liquid Foundation Model BreakthroughThe transformer architecture has dominated AI since 2017, but it’s not the only approach to building LLMs - and new architectures are bringing LLMs to edge devicesMaxime Labonne, Head of Post-Training at Liquid AI and creator of the 67,000+ star LLM Course, joins Conor Bronsdon to challenge the AI architecture status quo. Liquid AI’s hybrid architecture, combining transformers with convolutional layers, delivers faster inference, lower latency, and dramatically smaller footprints without sacrificing capability. This alternative architectural philosophy creates models that run effectively on phones and laptops without compromise.
2025-11-1252 min
Humans of ReliabilityYou Can’t Fix What You Don’t Measure: Observability in the Age of AI with Conor BronsdonOnly 50% of companies monitor their ML systems. Building observability for AI is not simple: it goes beyond 200 OK pings. In this episode, Sylvain Kalache sits down with Conor Brondsdon (Galileo) to unpack why observability, monitoring, and human feedback are the missing links to make large language model (LLM) reliable in production.Conor dives into the shift from traditional test-driven development to evaluation-driven development, where metrics like context adherence, completeness, and action advancement replace binary pass-fail checks. He also shares how teams can blend human-in-the-loop feedback, automated guardrails, and small language models to keep AI accurate, compliant, and...
2025-11-0531 minChain of ThoughtArchitecting AI Agents: The Shift from Models to Systems | Aishwarya Srinivasan, Fireworks AI Head of AI Developer RelationsMost AI agents are built backwards, starting with models instead of system architecture.Aishwarya Srinivasan, Head of AI Developer Relations at Fireworks AI, joins host Conor Bronsdon to explain the shift required to build reliable agents: stop treating them as model problems and start architecting them as complete software systems. Benchmarks alone won't save you. Aish breaks down the evolution from prompt engineering to context engineering, revealing how production agents demand careful orchestration of multiple models, memory systems, and tool calls. She shares battle-tested insights on evaluation-driven development, the rise of open source models like D...
2025-10-0853 min
Chain of ThoughtThe accidental algorithm: Melisa Russak, AI research scientist at WRITERThis week, we're doing something special and sharing an episode from another podcast we love: The Humans of AI by our friends at Writer. We're huge fans of their work, and you might remember Writer's CEO, May Habib, from the inaugural episode of our own show.From The Humans of AI:Learn how Melisa Russak, lead research scientist at WRITER, stumbled upon fundamental machine learning algorithms, completely unaware of existing research — twice. Her story reveals the power of approaching problems with fresh eyes and the innovative breakthroughs that can occur when constraints become catalysts for cr...
2025-10-0121 min
What's Up with Tech?Behind the Scenes: How Galileo Helps Companies Make AI TrustworthyInterested in being a guest? Email us at admin@evankirstel.comEnsuring AI systems actually work as intended might be the most crucial challenge facing developers and enterprises today. As these powerful tools become more embedded in our daily workflows and critical business processes, their non-deterministic nature presents unique reliability challenges unlike anything we've faced with traditional software.Conor Bronsdon from Galileo.ai offers a compelling framework for understanding and addressing these challenges. The fundamental issue? LLMs don't follow the predictable input-output relationships we've come to expect from software. "They have this massive amount of...
2025-09-2629 minChain of ThoughtIf Code Generation is Solved What's Next? | Graphite’s Greg FosterThe incredible velocity of AI coding tools has shifted the critical bottleneck in software development from code generation to code reviews. Greg Foster, Co-Founder & CTO of Graphite, joins the conversation to explore this new reality, outlining the three waves of AI that are leading to autonomous agents spawning pull requests in the background. He argues that as AI automates the "inner loop" of writing code, the human-centric "outer loop"—reviewing, merging, and deploying—is now under immense pressure, demanding a complete rethinking of our tools and processes.The conversation then gets tactical, with Greg detailing how a...
2025-09-2454 minChain of ThoughtVercel's Playbook for AI Agents: From Vibe Check to Production | Malte UblWhat’s the first step to building an enterprise-grade AI tool? Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, joins us this week to share Vercel’s playbook for agents, explaining how agents are a new type of software for solving flexible tasks. He shares how Vercel's developer-first ecosystem, including tools like the AI SDK and AI Gateway, is designed to help teams move from a quick proof-of-concept to a trusted, production-ready application.Malte explores the practicalities of production AI, from the importance of eval-driven development to debugging chaotic agents with robust tracing. He offers a critical lesson on se...
2025-09-1054 minChain of ThoughtFrom Demo to Defensibility: How to Build an AI Business that Lasts | Aurimas GriciūnasThe technological moat is eroding in the AI era, what new factors separate a successful startup from the rest?Aurimas Griciūnas, CEO of SwirlAI, joins the show to break down the realities of building in this new landscape. Startup success now hinges on speed, strong financial backing, or immediate distribution. Aurimas warns against the critical mistake of prioritizing shiny tools over fundamental engineering and the market gaps this creates.Discover the new moats for AI companies, built on a culture of relentless execution, tight feedback loops, and the surprising skills that define today's most v...
2025-08-2751 minChain of ThoughtMindset Over Metrics: How to Approach AI Engineering | Hamel HusainAs we enter the era of the AI engineer, the biggest challenge isn't technical - it's a shift in mindset. Hamel Husain, a leading AI consultant and luminary in the eval space, joins the podcast to explore the skills and processes needed to build reliable AI. Hamel explains why many teams relying on vanity dashboards and a "buffet of metrics" experience a false sense of security, which is no substitute for customized evals tailored to domain-specific risks. The solution? A disciplined process of error analysis, grounded in manually looking at data to identify real-world failures Th...
2025-08-2042 minChain of ThoughtHow AI Velocity is Rewriting the Rules for Engineering Leaders | ChatPRD's Claire VoWhat if your next competitor is not a startup, but a solo builder on a side project shipping features faster than your entire team? For Claire Vo, that's not a hypothetical. As the founder of ChatPRD, formerly the Chief Product and Technology Officer at LaunchDarkly, and host of the How I AI podcast, she has a unique vantage point on the driving forces behind a new blueprint for success.She argues that AI accountability must be driven from the top by an "AI czar" and reveals how a culture of experimentation is the key to...
2025-08-1342 minChain of ThoughtBuilding an AI-Native Startup | GrowthX's Marcel SantilliHow do you build an AI-native company to a $7M run rate in just six months?According to Marcel Santilli, Founder and CEO of GrowthX, the secret isn't chasing the next frontier model, it's mastering the "messy middle." Drawing on his deep experience at Scale AI and Deepgram, Marcel joins host Conor Bronsdon to share his framework for building durable, customer-obsessed businesses.Marcel argues that the most critical skills for the AI era aren't technical but philosophical: first-principles thinking and the art of delegation.Tune in to learn why GrowthX first focused on...
2025-08-0623 minChain of ThoughtCan AI Fix Healthcare? | Corti's Andreas CleveAI isn't just changing healthcare; it's providing the essential help needed to unlock a trillion-dollar opportunity for better care.Andreas Cleve, CEO & Co-founder of Corti, steps in to shed light on AI's immense, yet often misunderstood, transformative potential in this high-stakes environment. Andreas refutes the narrative of healthcare being slow adopters, emphasizing its high bar for trustworthy technology and its constant embrace of new tools. He reveals how purpose-built AI models are already alleviating the "pajama time" burden of documentation for clinicians, enabling faster and more accurate assessments in various specializations. This quiet, impactful adoption is seeing...
2025-07-3047 minChain of ThoughtMastering Multi-Agent Systems | MongoDB’s Mikiko ChandrasekharAI agents offer unprecedented power, but mastering agent reliability is the ultimate challenge for agentic systems to actually work in production.Mikiko Chandrashekar, Staff Developer Advocate at MongoDB, whose background spans the entire data-to-AI pipeline, unveils MongoDB's vision as the memory store for agents, supporting complex multi-agent systems from data storage and vector search to debugging chat logs. She highlights how MongoDB, reinforced by the acquisition of Voyage, empowers developers to build production-scale agents across various industries, from solo projects to major enterprises. This robust data layer is foundational to ensure agent performance and improve the end...
2025-07-2340 minChain of ThoughtThe AI Agent Trust Gap: Bridging Risk to Reliability | Elastic’s Philipp KrennThe age of ubiquitous AI agents is here, bringing immense potential - and unprecedented risk.Hosts Conor Bronsdon and Vikram Chatterji open the episode by discussing the urgent need for building trust and reliability into next-generation AI agents. Vikram unveils Galileo's free AI reliability platform for agents, featuring Luna 2 SLMs for real-time guardrails and its Insights Engine for automatic failure mode analysis. This platform enables cost-effective, low-latency production evaluations, significantly transforming debugging. Achieving trustworthy AI agents demands rigorous testing, continuous feedback, and robust guardrailing—complex challenges requiring powerful solutions from partners like Elastic.Conor welcomes Ph...
2025-07-1644 minChain of ThoughtArchitecting Reliable Agentic AI | Cisco’s Giovanna Carofiglio on the AGNTCY CollectiveThe Internet of Agents is rapidly taking shape, necessitating innovative foundational standards, protocols, and evaluation methods for its success.Recorded at Cisco's office in San Jose, we welcome Giovanna Carofiglio, Distinguished Engineer and Senior Director at Outshift by Cisco. As a leader of the AGNTCY Collective (an open-source initiative by Cisco, Galileo, LangChain, and many other participating companies), Giovanna outlines the vision for agents to collaborate seamlessly across the enterprise and the internet. She details the collective's pillars, from agent discovery and deployment using new agentic protocols like Slim, to ensuring a secure, low-latency communication transport layer...
2025-07-0941 minChain of ThoughtTaste Is The New Moat | Intangible CEO on Brand, Distribution, and Winning in AIWhen AI makes creating content and code nearly free, how do you stand out? Differentiation now hinges on two things: unique taste and effective distribution.This week, Bharat Vasan, founder & CEO at Intangible and a "recovering VC," explains why the AI landscape compelled him to return to founding. He sees AI sparking a new creative revolution, similar to the early internet, that makes it easier than ever to bring ideas to life. The conversation delivers essential advice for founders, revealing why relentless shipping is the ultimate clarifier for a business and why resilience, not just intelligence, is...
2025-07-0253 minChain of ThoughtThe Emerging AI Agent Stack | CrewAI’s João MouraUnlocking AI agents for knowledge work automation and scaling intelligent, multi-agent systems within enterprises fundamentally requires measurability, reliability, and trust.João Moura, founder & CEO of CrewAI, joins Galileo’s Conor Bronsdon and Vikram Chatterji to unpack and define the emerging AI agent stack. They explore how enterprises are moving beyond initial curiosity to tackle critical questions around provisioning, authentication, and measurement for hundreds or thousands of agents in production. The discussion highlights a crucial "gold rush" among middleware providers, all racing to standardize the orchestration and frameworks needed for seamless agent deployment and interoperability. This new era...
2025-06-2549 minChain of ThoughtAMD's Vision for an Open Ecosystem | Anush Elangovan & Sharon ZhouHow is an open ecosystem powering the next generation of AI for developers and leaders?Broadcasting live from the heart of the action at AMD's Advancing AI 2025, Chain of Thought host Conor Bronsdon welcomes AMD’s Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software, and Sharon Zhou, VP of AI. They unpack AMD's groundbreaking transformation from a hardware giant to a leader in full-stack AI, committed to an open ecosystem. Discover how new MI350 GPUs deliver mind-blowing performance with advanced data types and why ROCm 7 and AMD Developer Cloud offer Day Zero support for frontier models.Then Co...
2025-06-1849 minChain of ThoughtYour Key to AI Success is Hiding in Plain Sight | Cohesity's Greg StattonWhat if the most valuable data in your enterprise—the key to your AI future—is sitting dormant in your backups, treated like an insurance policy you hope to never use?Join Conor Bronsdon with Greg Statton, VP of AI Solutions at Cohesity, for an inside look at how they are turning this passive data into an active asset to power generative AI applications. Greg details Cohesity’s evolution from an infinitely scalable file system built for backups into a data intelligence powerhouse, managing hundreds of exabytes of enterprise data globally. He recounts how early successes in using...
2025-06-1145 minChain of ThoughtWhy Gamers Paved the Way for AI | Databricks' Carly TaylorWhat if the pixels and polygons of your favorite video games were the secret architects of today's AI revolution?Carly Taylor, Field CTO for Gaming at Databricks and founder of ggAI, joins host Conor Bronsdon to illuminate the direct line from video game innovation to the current AI landscape. She explains how the gaming industry's relentless pursuit of better graphics and performance not only drove pivotal GPU advancements and cost reductions, but also fundamentally shaped our popular understanding of artificial intelligence by popularizing the very term "AI" through decades of in-game experiences. Carly shares her personal journey...
2025-06-0449 minChain of ThoughtThe 2025 AI Shift: From Chat to Task Completion & Reliable Action | Galileo FoundersAI in 2025 promises intelligent action, not just smarter chat. But are enterprises prepared for the agentic shift and the complex reliability hurdles it brings?Join Conor Bronsdon on Chain of Thought with fellow co-hosts and Galileo co-founders, Vikram Chatterji (CEO) and Atindriyo Sanyal (CTO), as they explore this pivotal transformation. They discuss how generative AI is evolving from a simple tool into a powerful engine for enterprise task automation, a significant advance driving the pursuit of substantial ROI. This shift is also fueling what Vikram observes as a "gold rush" for middleware and frameworks, alongside healthy skepticism...
2025-05-2844 minChain of ThoughtAmplitude's AI Playbook: Data, Talent Integration & Agentic Futures | Wade ChambersAs AI redefines how products are built and customers are understood, what are the core strategies engineering leaders use to drive innovation and create lasting value?Join Conor Bronsdon as he welcomes Wade Chambers, Chief Engineering Officer at Amplitude, to explore these critical questions. Wade shares how Amplitude is leveraging AI to deepen customer understanding and enhance product experiences, transforming raw data into actionable insights across their platform. He also discusses their approach to navigating constant change while building an adaptable, high-performing engineering culture that thrives in the current AI landscape.The conversation explores Amplitude's...
2025-05-2147 minChain of ThoughtFirst Code, Then AGI: Software’s Event Horizon with Poolside Founders Jason Warner & Eiso KantIs the prevailing approach to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) missing a crucial step – deep, focused specialization? For the first time since co-founding Poolside, CEO Jason Warner & CTO Eiso Kant reunite on a podcast articulating their distinct vision for AI's future with our host, Conor Bronsdon. Poolside has intentionally diverged from general-purpose models, developing highly specialized AI meticulously designed for the specific, complex task of coding, viewing it as a direct and robust pathway towards achieving AGI, and revolutionizing how software is created.Jason and Eiso dive deep into the core tenets of their strategy: an unw...
2025-05-1451 minChain of ThoughtAI's Two Extremes – Foundations & The Frontier | Databricks’ Denny LeeThe AI landscape often pulls us between the allure of cutting-edge models and the quiet necessity of foundational work—yet how do these extremes actually connect to deliver value?Join Conor Bronsdon as he welcomes Denny Lee, a self-proclaimed "data nerd" and Product Management Director, Developer Relations at Dataricks, to unpack this very spectrum, from AI's core infrastructure to its most advanced applications. Denny explains why robust logging, tracing, and data lineage are indispensable for credible AI evaluation and feedback, ultimately making AI systems more affordable, accessible, and impactful.The discussion ventures into strategies for de...
2025-05-0743 minChain of ThoughtWhy Enterprises Need a Different Approach to AI Agents | Lyzr’s Siva SurendiraAgentic AI exploded in 2025, but how do businesses move beyond prototypes to deploy reliable, valuable agents at scale?Join host Conor Bronsdon and Lyzr AI CEO Siva Surendira as they discuss the complexities of building and managing AI agents for enterprises. Siva shares his journey creating Lyzr, focusing on making powerful agent frameworks accessible and trustworthy for enterprise developers. They discuss the critical hurdles businesses face, including productionization challenges, ensuring responsible AI, and bridging the gap between rapid innovation and the stringent requirements of regulated industries.Listen as Siva explains Lyzr's approach to embedding safety...
2025-04-3038 minChain of ThoughtWill AI Erase All Language Barriers? | Smartling's Olga BeregovayaAre we on the verge of removing all language barriers with AI?Olga Beregovaya, VP of AI at Smartling, joins host Conor Bronsdon to tackle this question, discussing the evolution from rule-based NLP to today's powerful LLMs. Together, they confront the persistent challenges that stand in the way, like the English-centric nature of AI, domain-specific inaccuracies, and the unpredictability of model hallucinations. Olga unpacks the difficulties faced when striving for accurate, nuanced translation across all languages, especially under-resourced ones.Beyond these hurdles, the conversation explores the cutting-edge opportunities and technical innovations driving progress, including RAG...
2025-04-2340 minChain of ThoughtAI, Low-Code, and Shaping the Next Generation of Apps | OutSystems' Rodrigo CoutinhoWhat if you could turn a requirement document into a full enterprise application in just minutes?Rodrigo Coutinho, co-founder and AI Product Manager at OutSystems, joins hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atin Sanyal to explore this new reality of AI-driven development. Rodrigo shares insights from OutSystems' nearly 25-year journey, detailing their early adoption of AI and the development of their AI platform, Mentor. Discover how the pairing of AI and low-code empowers developers, accelerates the creation of enterprise applications, and shortens the cycle from idea to deployment.But this newfound speed brings its own set of...
2025-04-1640 minChain of ThoughtAI Won't Solve Your Toughest Engineering Problems | Honeycomb’s Charity MajorsGenerative AI dominates the conversation, but does it actually make it easier to build, lead, and sustain high-performing engineering teams?Host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Charity Majors, co-founder and CTO of Honeycomb (.io), and the mind behind charity.wtf. Known for her sharp insights and unfiltered opinions, Charity kicks off the discussion by expanding on her popular article: 'Generative AI is not going to build your engineering team for you.' Together, they explore how AI has altered the dynamics for engineering teams and leaders. The discussion navigates the complex dynamics of hiring in a...
2025-04-0941 minChain of ThoughtBuilding IBM's watsonx & The Future of Enterprise AI | Dr. Maryam AshooriBuilding trustworthy, scalable AI isn't just about models; it's about navigating a complex ecosystem of tools and regulations. Join hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal as they explore these challenges with Dr. Maryam Ashoori, Head of Product for watsonx AI at IBM. To meet these challenges, Maryam explains how watsonx simplifies the AI stack, automates pipelines, and empowers enterprises to scale their AI operations while optimizing costs rapidly.Maryam also explores IBM's strategy for leveraging open-source and commercial models, enabling the potential of agentic systems. Plus, she shares insights from a recent survey of 1,000 developers, r...
2025-04-0245 minChain of ThoughtWhat is Information Symmetry and Will AI Unlock it? | DevRev’s Manoj AgarwalWhat if everyone in your organization had equal information at all times? Would meetings even exist? This week, we dive into the concept of information symmetry with Manoj Agarwal, co-founder and president of DevRev. Manoj, along with hosts Conor Bronsdon and Yash Sheth, explores how DevRev is connecting data, personalizing schemas, and automating complex tasks, offering a glimpse into the next generation of AI-driven workflows. This is revolutionizing enterprise data and decision-making by breaking down the silos that create information asymmetry.Learn how AI is reshaping business outcomes and collaboration, moving us closer to a w...
2025-03-2640 minChain of ThoughtIs There an Agent Bubble? | Spot AI’s Kelly VaughnIs the agentic AI bubble about to burst? Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, questions whether the agent craze is overpromising potential and leading startups down a path of unsustainable expectations.Never one to shy away from a hot take, Kelly joins host Conor Bronsdon for a pragmatic look at AI, discussing the differences between building AI-enabled and traditional software, why replacing humans with AI teams will backfire (looking at you customer service), and the proliferation of AI tools.Kelly also shares insights on constructing AI teams, navigating data governance, and building user...
2025-03-1935 minChain of ThoughtUsing AI to Modernize Your Legacy Applications | MongoDB’s Rachelle PalmerImagine cutting your legacy code modernization timeline from years to months. It’s no longer science fiction and this week’s guest is here to tell us how. Rachelle Palmer, Director of Product Management at MongoDB, joins hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal, for a discussion on the groundbreaking ways AI is modernizing legacy applications. At MongoDB, Rachelle's forward-deployed AI engineering team is tackling the challenge of transforming complex, outdated codebases, freeing developers from technical debt. She details how LLMs are automating tasks like improving documentation, test generation, and even business logic conversion, dramatically reducing modern...
2025-03-1243 minChain of ThoughtCan Your AI Strategy Be Future-Proof? | Galileo’s Vikram ChatterjiThis week, we're sharing a special episode courtesy of 'Dev Interrupted.' Our co-host, Galileo CEO Vikram Chatterji, recently joined theDev Interrupted team for an engaging discussion on AI strategy. We were so impressed by the conversation that we wanted to share it with our audience, and they were kind enough to let us. We hope you enjoy it!From Dev Interrupted:"Vikram Chatterji joins Dev Interrupted’s Andrew Zigler to discuss how engineering leaders can future-proof their AI strategy and navigate an emerging dilemma: the pressure to adopt AI to stay competitive, while justifying AI...
2025-03-0529 min
Chain of ThoughtDo I Need Agents? | Gartner’s Haritha KhandabattuIf you’re an engineering leader or CIO and haven’t already implemented agents, you’re probably being asked to. But the question you should ask yourself isn’t simply why; it’s where.This week, Haritha Khandabattu, Senior Director Analyst for AI at Gartner, joins us to cut through the hype surrounding AI agents. She provides real-world examples of successful implementations and reveals how to avoid common pitfalls. Listen now to discover the crucial questions leaders should ask before taking the plunge, including assessing your organization's needs and identifying the right use cases.Chapters:00:00...
2025-02-1945 minChain of ThoughtThe Making of Gemini 2.0: DeepMind's Approach to AI Development and Deployment | Logan KilpatrickGoogle’s strength in AI has often seemed to get lost in the midst of OpenAI announcements or DeepSeek fervor - yet Gemini 2.0 is more than good for many tasks; it’s the model to beat - and we have the research to back it up. This week, Logan Kilpatrick, senior product manager at Google DeepMind, joins us to discuss Gemini’s creation story, its emergence as the premiere model in the AI race, and why the launch of Gemini 2.0 is great news for developers.During the conversation Conor and Logan explore the exciting world of mult...
2025-02-1240 minChain of ThoughtDeepSeek Fallout, Export Controls & Agentic EvalsThis week, hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal discuss the fallout from DeepSeek's groundbreaking R1 model, its impact on the open-source AI landscape, and how its release will impact model development moving forward. They also discuss what effect (if any) export controls have had on AI innovation and whether we’re witnessing the rise of “Agents as a Service”. To tackle the increasing complexity of agentic systems, Conor and Atin highlight the need for robust evaluation frameworks, discussing the challenges of measuring agent performance, and how the recent launch of Galileo's agentic evaluations are empowering developers to build s...
2025-02-0532 minChain of ThoughtAI, Open Source & Developer Safety | Block’s Rizel ScarlettAs DeepSeek so aptly demonstrated, AI doesn’t need to be closed source to be successful.This week, Rizel Scarlett, a Staff Developer Advocate at Block, joins Conor Bronsdon to discuss the intersections between AI, open source, and developer advocacy. Rizel shares her journey into the world of AI, her passion for empowering developers, and her work on Block's new AI initiative, Goose, an on-machine developer agent designed to automate engineering tasks and enhance productivity.Conor and Rizel also explore how AI can enable psychological safety, especially for junior developers. Building on this theme of co...
2025-01-2933 minChain of ThoughtAI in 2025: Agents & The Rise of Evaluation Driven Development"In the next three to five years, every piece of software that is built on this planet will have some sort of AI baked into it." - Atin Sanyal
Chain of Thought is back for its second season, and this episode dives headfirst into the possibilities AI holds for 2025 and beyond. Join Conor Bronson as he chats with Galileo co-founders Yash Sheth (COO) and Atindriyo Sanyal (CTO) about major trends to look for this year. These include AI finding its product "tool stack" fit, generation latency decreasing, AI agents, their potential to revolutionize code generation and other...
2025-01-1533 min
Dev InterruptedManaging Developer Feedback Effectively | Atlassian’s Andrew BoyagiIs your company relying on surveys alone to bridge the gap between developers and managers? In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines, COO of LinearB, dive into the perceived misalignment between engineers and their leaders on improving developer experience. Together, they emphasize the importance of data-driven insights over relying solely on surveys, highlighting how quantifiable metrics can illuminate issues like technical debt and build times. The conversation also touches on the power of setting clear, company-wide goals to boost developer experience and productivity.Next, Conor Bronsdon, in his final ep...
2025-01-1441 minChain of ThoughtNow is the Time to Build | Weaviate’s Bob van Luijt"This is the time. This is the time to start building... I can't say that often enough. This is the time." - Bob van Luijt
Join Bob van Luijt, CEO and co-founder of Weaviate as he sits down with our host Conor Bronson for the Season 2 premiere of Chain of Thought. Together, they explore the ever-evolving world of AI infrastructure and the evolution of Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) architecture.
Bob's journey with Weaviate offers a compelling example of how to adapt to rapid changes in the AI landscape. He discusses the importance of understanding developer needs a...
2025-01-0835 minChain of ThoughtHow AI Assistants Can Enhance Human Connection | Twilio’s Vinnie GiarrussoCan AI assistants actually enhance human connection?
As Season 1 of Chain of Thought comes to a close, Conor Bronsdon and Vinnie Giarrusso (Twilio) explore the transformative potential of AI assistants in the workplace.
Discover how these assistants function as "async junior digital employees," taking on specific tasks and contributing to the organizational structure. But will AI assistants ultimately replace human connection? Vinnie argues the opposite is true, suggesting that AI can liberate employees from mundane tasks, allowing them to focus on building meaningful relationships and providing personalized experiences.
This thought-provoking conversation takes a...
2024-12-1842 minDev InterruptedSeason 4 Finale: A Fond Farewell, What’s Next & Would You RatherIt's the end of an era on Dev Interrupted as we say farewell to host Conor Bronsdon and welcome a fresh voice, Andrew Zigler!Join us for a nostalgic trip down memory lane as Conor revisits his favorite interviews and moments from Season 4 and beyond, including discussions on chaos engineering, technical debt, and the human side of managing software engineers. He shares memorable stories from guests like Charity Majors, Rob Zuber, Kelly Vaughn, and many more, while reflecting on the evolution of Dev Interrupted and its impact on the engineering leadership community.But it’s no...
2024-12-1740 minChain of ThoughtLessons from Deploying AI at Enterprise Scale | ServiceTitan, Indeed & TwilioThis week, a panel of experts (Mehmet Murat Ezbiderli, ServiceTitan; Grant Ledford, Indeed; and Vinnie Giarrusso, Twilio) join Atin Sanyal (CTO, Galileo) and Conor Bronsdon (Developer Awareness, Galileo) to explore the challenges and opportunities of deploying GenAI at enterprise scale in a conversation that's a wake-up call for any business leader looking to harness the power of AI.
Together, Atin & Conor break down key considerations like performance, cost, and model selection, emphasizing the need for robust evaluation frameworks and a shift in developer mindset.
Atin then sits down with our panel of AI engineering experts...
2024-12-1150 minChain of ThoughtPractical Lessons for GenAI Evals | Chip Huyen & Vivienne ZhangAs AI agents and multimodal models become more prevalent, understanding how to evaluate GenAI is no longer optional – it's essential.
Generative AI introduces new complexities in assessment compared to traditional software, and this week on Chain of Thought we’re joined by Chip Huyen (Storyteller, Tép Studio), Vivienne Zhang (Senior Product Manager, Generative AI Software, Nvidia) for a discussion on AI evaluation best practices.
Before we hear from our guests, Vikram Chatterji (CEO, Galileo) and Conor Bronsdon (Developer Awareness, Galileo) give their takes on the complexities of AI evals and how to overcome them through...
2024-12-0448 minChain of ThoughtThe Real ROI of Enterprise AI | HP, ServiceNow & AccentureThe “ROI of AI” has been marketed as a panacea, a near-magical solution to all business problems.
Following that promise, many companies have invested heavily in AI over the past year and are now asking themselves, “What is the return on my AI investment?”
This week on Chain of Thought, Galileo’s CEO, Vikram Chatterji joins Conor Bronsdon to discuss AI's value proposition, from the initial hype to the current search for tangible returns, offering insights into how businesses can identify the right AI use cases to maximize their investment.
Next, we’re joined by a...
2024-11-2741 minChain of ThoughtGenAI Predictions for 2025 | Databricks & CohereWill 2025 be the year open-source LLMs catch up with their closed-source rivals? Will an established set of best practices for evaluating AI emerge?
This week on Chain of Thought, we break out the crystal ball and give our biggest AI predictions for 2025. Listen as Sara Hooker, VP of Research at Cohere and Head of Cohere for AI predicts a trend towards smaller, more optimized AI models; Craig Wiley, Senior Director of Product, Mosaic AI at Databricks, dives into the future of multimodal AI; and Galileo’s CEO, Vikram Chatterji, shares his predictions, including the rise of open-source LL...
2024-11-2040 minChain of ThoughtGot Agents? | Weaviate, Unstructured & crewAIAI agents have quickly emerged as the next ‘hot thing’ in AI, but what constitutes an AI agent and do they live up to the hype?
Join Brian Raymond, founder & CEO at Unstructured.io, Bob van Luijt, co-founder & CEO at Weaviate, and João Moura, founder at crewAI as they discuss the shift to agentic workflows, dissect their architecture, and tackle real-world challenges in agent deployment.
From data management tips to generative feedback loops, this episode is your essential guide to operationalizing agents effectively.
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00:00 Defining AI Agents
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2024-11-1331 minChain of ThoughtTrust, Regulation & the Road Ahead | Writer's May HabibFrom ChatGPT's search engine to Google's AI-powered code generation, artificial intelligence is transforming how we build and deploy technology.
In this inaugural episode of Chain of Thought, the co-founders of Galileo explore the state of AI, from open-source models to establishing trust in enterprise applications. Plus, tune in for a segment on the impact of the Presidential election on AI regulation. The episode culminates with an interview of May Habib, CEO of Writer, who shares practical insights on implementing generative AI at scale.
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00:00 Introduction to Chain of Thought Podcast
2024-11-0648 minChain of ThoughtWelcome to Chain of ThoughtWe are living in the age of AI. It's transforming everything around us, from the way we work and communicate, to how we solve global challenges.
But for many, AI still feels like a black box.
Introducing Chain of Thought, the podcast for software engineers and leaders that demystifies artificial intelligence.
We’ll be joined by AI innovators, tech founders, and expert researchers such as Cohere’s Sara Hooker.
Join us as we unravel actionable strategies and practical techniques for building effective GenerativeAI applications.
Discover how AI is being prod...
2024-10-2901 minDev InterruptedLabs: Everything You Need to Know About Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI)Engineering leaders have long used value stream management and CI/CD tools to improve software delivery practices. However, an increasing demand for cost and efficiency is leading to the adoption of new technologies. Enterprises are quickly adopting tools that combine deeper levels of visibility into the SDLC with net-new workflow automations, leading to a better developer experience and increased output. This week's labs episode takes an in-depth look at Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI) Platforms and how engineering teams are using this new technology to gain a competitive advantage. LinearB’s COO and Co-founder Dan Lines along with co...
2024-06-2538 minDev InterruptedData Science & AI: Getting Buy-In and Demonstrating ROI | PagerDuty’s Sanghamitra GoswamiIn this episode of Dev Interrupted, Conor Bronsdon is joined by Sanghamitra Goswami, Senior Director of Data Science and Machine Learning at PagerDuty. Sanghamitra shares her expertise in AI and data science, including how engineering teams can effectively leverage both within their organizations. She also explores the history and significance of LLMs, strategies for measuring success and ROI, and the importance of foundational data work. The conversation ends with a discussion about practical applications of AI at PagerDuty, including features designed to reduce noise and improve incident resolution. Episode Highlights:00:56 Why are LLMs important for engineering t...
2024-06-1823 minDev InterruptedHow to Leverage a Non-Technical Background in Engineering Leadership | Melissa DePuydtIn this episode, host Conor Bronsdon talks with Melissa DePuydt, Sr. Director of Engineering at Upstatement. Melissa discusses how her background in journalism has uniquely positioned her to excel in engineering leadership roles. She highlights how thinking like a journalist has enhanced her ability to lead engineering teams effectively, particularly in planning, risk management, and decision-making.The conversation covers the importance of preparing for disruptions, conducting pre-mortems to anticipate challenges, and incorporating broad perspectives for effective problem solving. Melissa also shares insights on continuously learning and adapting by embracing one's unique background and experiences....
2024-03-2633 minDev InterruptedPreparing for Your First VP of Engineering Role | Honeycomb VPE, Emily NakashimaOn this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Emily Nakashima, VP of Engineering at Honeycomb.io, to discuss how you can prepare to be a VP of Engineering, and how the role differs among companies. Being a VPE varies based on company size, culture, and the existing team's makeup, and Emily provides valuable advice for engineers aspiring to leadership positions.Emily also discusses using personality tests for better team dynamics and the need for regular self-evaluation as an integral part of career advancement. The conversation closes by talking about the impact of AI on th...
2024-03-1935 minDev InterruptedHow to Build Influence as an Engineering Leader | Kelly VaughnThis week, host Conor Bronsdon welcomes back Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, to talk about building influence as an engineering leader. Kelly shares insights on the importance of leadership skills for both individual contributor and managerial roles and outlines her three pillars of trust, communication, and empowerment. Conor and Kelly discuss strategies for staying technically fresh despite moving up in management, exploring the balance between staying close to product development and avoiding micromanagement. Lastly, they touch on the potential of AR/VR technology, with a focus on the business implications of Apple's Vision Pro...
2024-03-1233 minDev InterruptedHow to Achieve Predictable Software Delivery at Scale | Syngenta’s Jason KrohnOn this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Jason Krohn, Global Head of Delivery at Syngenta. Jason delves into how his teams at Syngenta leverage software engineering intelligence to achieve predictable delivery at scale. Jason also explores how aligning work with employees' passions contributes to success and retention at Syngenta. He discusses the challenges and solutions in implementing efficient DevOps processes and ensuring organizational buy-in for the vision. Additionally, Jason highlights the importance of empowering teams with autonomy and providing the necessary tools for proactive decision-making.Whether you're leading a small team or...
2024-02-2736 minDev InterruptedHow to Build a Technical Strategy That Solves Business Problems | CircleCI CTO, Rob ZuberIt doesn’t matter if you have an innovative technical strategy if you’re not solving problems the business cares about… This week, host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Rob Zuber, CTO at CircleCI. They delve into the evolving role of engineering leaders, and the importance of building a technical strategy that aligns with overarching business goals.Throughout the conversation, Rob emphasizes the importance of focusing on customer needs, gathering direct feedback and maintaining strategic flexibility. If you’re interested in understanding the balance between technical strategy and business leadership, this episode provides a wealth of knowle...
2024-02-1358 minDev InterruptedThe 12 Scenarios of Failure: Applying Chaos Engineering to SAP at AWSOn this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon sit down with Guilherme Sesterheim, SAP DevOps SRE Engineer at AWS. Guilherme delves into applying Chaos Engineering and DevOps principles to SAP, a domain traditionally seen as risk-averse and resistant to rapid innovation.With expertise in both open-source technologies and SAP, Guilherme shares how he’s bringing modern practices to SAP environments at AWS. He explores how Chaos Engineering can be used to test and improve the resilience of SAP systems, focusing on HANA, SAP’s in-memory database. The discussion also touches on the challenges of integrating these...
2024-02-0630 min
JavaScript JabberExploring AI Impact on Code Generation and Quality Metrics - JSJ 618Conor Bronsdon is the host of the Dev Interrupted Podcast and currently works at LinearB. They dive into the world of generative AI tools in software development, exploring the impact, challenges, and potential benefits they present. They engage in a lively discussion about the use of AI tools like Copilot and the implications for code generation, team efficiency, and happiness. The conversation also touches on the concerns and considerations surrounding AI integration in coding, including compliance, quality, and intellectual property. Join them as they delve into the evolving landscape of AI in software development, the quest for improved developer experiences, a...
2024-01-301h 06Dev InterruptedThe Build vs. Buy Debate, GenAI and Section 174 | Kelly VaughnOn this week’s episode, our hosts Dan Lines and Conor Bronsdon are joined by long-time friend of the show, industry expert, and Director of Engineering at Spot AI, Kelly Vaughn. Together they tackle a range of topics, including how tax laws are impacting engineering teams, the evolving role of AI in software development, and the great build vs. buy debate.The conversation starts with Kelly and Dan’s takes on Section 174, which poses a looming threat to US tech companies. From there, they pivot to GenAI to discuss how you can measure its impact, lead...
2024-01-3044 minDev InterruptedNetflix's Blueprint for Building Inspired Engineering Teams | Carol BarrettOn this week's episode, we're joined by Carol Barrett, the Engineering Leader in Consumer Identity and Access at Netflix. Host Conor Bronsdon interviews Carol to learn about Netflix’s blueprint for success when building engineering teams, and how they foster a culture where inspiration and purpose are at the forefront.Carol shares her valuable insights on empowering engineers to make their own decisions, ensuring product management and engineering are perfectly synced, and the importance of flexible structures that cater to team dynamics. She also discusses the unique challenges and opportunities Netflix faces, including their approach to innovative pr...
2024-01-2333 minDev InterruptedUnveiling the Hidden Side of Org Charts at the NYTimesIn this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by David Yee, VP of Engineering at the New York Times. They dive into the often unseen aspects of organizational structures, discussing how every organization regardless of their defined values and principles, operates with a 'shadow'. David discusses the role of senior leaders in addressing systemic problems and navigating the tensions between innovation and consistency. He highlights the importance of recognizing and integrating these organizational shadows to foster better decision-making and operational efficiency.Drawing from his rich experience leading engineering teams in media, t...
2024-01-1635 min