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Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBlending Playful Faith and Best PracticesThis episode explores how best practices and spiritual insight can work together rather than compete. Bill shares stories from business, while Gea shares from her role as leader of Business as Mission (BAM) Netherlands, how prayer, prophetic insight, and “God downloads” strengthen rational thinking, practical systems, innovation, joy, and everyday professional life.
2025-12-1731 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBuilding Kingdom Culture: Leading with Eternity in ViewGea Gort talks with Bill Job about building a kingdom culture in business, where eternal values shape everyday decisions. Through powerful stories—hiring beggars, honoring every employee, prayer, and practicing the “400-year rule”—Bill shares how an eternal mindset transforms leadership, company culture, and the way we see each person God loves forever. (This is a rerun of the episode 'Honoring All People has Eternal Value' May 2024)'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and Se...
2025-12-0330 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkFrom Prayer to Practical SolutionsIn this podcast episode, we explore how people can receive practical guidance from God in their everyday work. Bill Job shares that he first noticed unexpected ideas coming to him and later found biblical examples, such as God giving detailed instructions for the tabernacle. He describes experiences in manufacturing, where creative solutions “just appeared” and significantly improved efficiency. Bill believes these ideas are not self-generated but received. Other inventors he knows have also recognized that their innovations came through inspiration rather than personal genius. Bill explains that these insights often come when a person is relaxed, worshiping, or j...
2025-11-1228 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkJohn Cobb; From Success to SonshipIn this podcast, Gea and Bill speak with John Cobb, who is the founder of an engineering software company serving U.S. auto dealerships. Passionate about cars and technology, he describes himself as a “visionary Christian technology entrepreneur.” John shares how worldly success had left him empty. He transitioned from a 'religious' Christian to a follower of Christ and how that affects his daily working life. He emphasizes “functionally abiding” in the Lord—inviting God into daily operations, praying with his team, and valuing people over profit. This shift, both the hosts and John agree, is a lifelong proc...
2025-10-2935 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkSpiritual Battle in Business: Release Justice and Love Your EnemiesIn this episode, Bill shares his experience of facing life-threatening danger while starting a business in China. He hired a man he trusted from a Bible study, only to discover this person had a dangerous past and threatened his family.This experience reshaped his understanding of discipleship: it’s not just teaching Scripture but modeling obedience, including loving enemies. Bill illustrates this through the “tag team” image, where God fights alongside us. By blessing those who harm us, we release them into God’s hands, gaining freedom and spiritual growth.Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Gea and B...
2025-10-1529 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkStephany & Armando. Part 2. Architecture in EthiopiaStephanie and Armando Rojas shifted from traditional missions to business-driven impact in Africa. In the last episode, they shared how they initially aimed for missional NGO work in Somalia, but felt guided to a more strategic approach, exploring business opportunities to create sustainable change. They chose Ethiopia for its entrepreneurial ecosystem, spent two years praying and preparing. Meanwhile, they started businesses in Costa Rica to fund their mission. Overcoming the $85,000 startup requirements in Ethiopia, as well as legal hurdles and bureaucracy, they relied on faith, persistence, and flexibility. Stephanie became the first foreign female architect r...
2025-10-0133 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkStephany & Armando Rojas. Part 1. A Shift in Perspective.Tune in to Stephany and Armando Rojas' journey. In this first episode with this couple from Costa Rica, they share their backgrounds as pastors' kids and how God disrupted their missionary plans when they were missionaries in Somalia. Gently asking them to lay down their dreams, and to consider a more strategic approach: faith-driven business. 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea whe...
2025-09-1740 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBread to the World: Erik van Otten’s Vision for Global ImpactIn this podcast, Eric van Otten encourages listeners to act in faith on the opportunities God places in their hearts. Eric is a Dutch baker who runs a multi-generational bakery with 140 employees, producing natural, additive-free bread. He loves sharing Jesus' love with the people he meets through his business, and this love also inspires him to impact communities globally. He helped establish bakeries in needy areas in various countries and created the “BakeTainer”—a mobile bakery designed for challenging environments like refugee camps or war zones. By combining a sustainable business model with practical solutions such as solar panels and wat...
2025-09-0327 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkHow can Prophecy have a Role in Business?A thought-provoking exchange between business leader Bill Job and prophet Sander Wuister about the role of prophecy in business. Sander regularly prays for businesses and (business)leaders. Bill shares his experiences in this area and why he decided to have a prophet as a business consultant on the payroll. Listen to this revealing talk about the pitfalls and benefits. Bill and Sander also encourage us to develop this gift in our own lives, as a loving Father likes to give us insight and revelation. This episode is a rerun and was first released in August 2023.Sander Wuister ho...
2025-08-2039 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkShould You Hire Christians? Rethinking Work Ethic.Do Christians make good employees? "Some are excellent," shares Bill Job from experience, "But many business owners share with me that Christians can be lousy workers." Why is this? Bill and Gea discuss the meaning of grace and some worldviews that hinder us from experiencing our job as a spiritual experience and an assignment under the Lord's guidance. September 3rd, 2025: next start of cohort 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Lo...
2025-08-0633 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkPauline Skeates: Creating Safe Spaces for BreakthroughIn this episode, the discussion explores the integration of worship and spiritual practices into business, emphasizing that aligning with God in business can lead to improved problem-solving and greater peace, even amid challenges. Bill and Gea talk with Pauline Skeates, a therapist and researcher from New Zealand who developed Insight Focused neuroTherapy (IFnT). IFnT focuses on creating a safe environment, both internally and externally, to open individuals to new experiences and insights. September 3rd, 2025: start of new cohort 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online s...
2025-07-2331 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkEmbracing Place in Business as MissionThis episode examines the importance of place in Business as Mission, as people may be led to specific locations by God for His purposes. Gea and Bill share personal stories of discovering God's calling through their experiences in different places, and discuss practical ways to embrace and love a city or place, understanding its history, culture, and needs. They emphasize the concept of "thin places" where God's presence seems near. Listeners are encouraged to seek these thin places in their areas that welcome God's presence and to explore deeper theological insights through resources like Gea's...
2025-07-0931 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkEmmie van Halder's Journey of Faith and EntrepreneurshipIn this podcast, Bill and Gea talk with serial entrepreneur Emmie van Halder. Emmie shares her life's journey of blending business and faith. Over the past ten years, faith and work have become inseparable for her, but this integration wasn't always the case. In her youth, she joined Youth With A Mission (YWAM), but upon returning to her home country, the Netherlands, she didn't feel at home in a church. Meanwhile, her focus shifted to entrepreneurship, and she founded multiple startups. Her business life thrived, and she lost her connection to Christianity. A pivotal moment came when a...
2025-06-2530 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkKitty Job: The Perspective of a Spouse on their BAM Adventure in ChinaKitty and Bill Job share their journey of starting a business in China, initially expecting to be traditional missionaries but instead becoming involved in a business venture. The couple discusses their various roles in the company, the impact of prayer, and how their business has become an excellent way to integrate with ministry. They both highlight the importance of faith, flexibility, and prayer throughout their journey. Bill expresses deep gratitude for Kitty's support, acknowledging that without her, their success in China would not have been possible.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessGea and B...
2025-06-1131 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkWhen Plans Fail: Finding Strength and Purpose in Hard TimesIn this episode, Bill and Gea discuss thriving in the face of adversity. Bill shares how he saw God's faithfullness while running a company in China, but not all situations ended successfully. Like the closure of a factory due to an unexpected economic downturn and the emotional difficulty it caused among employees. Bill emphasizes that thriving amid adversity is about shifting focus from personal success to seeing God's role as the true hero. He encourages listeners to start small, ask God for help in everyday situations, and build a history of faith that strengthens over time. With e...
2025-05-2829 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkSEVI: Revolutionizing Small Shop Financing in AfricaIn this episode Gea and Bill talk with Walter aan de Wiel, a Dutch entrepreneur who co-founded SEVI, a business providing stock financing to small shops in Kenya and other developing countries. These small shops, often no larger than a square meter, struggle with the lack of credit and must pay upfront for their stock. Sevi allows them to purchase on credit, benefiting from bulk discounts and deliveries, which improves their efficiency and profitability.Walter blends technology with personal relationships, leveraging local salespeople to build trust with shop owners before introducing them to Sevi's platform. The business...
2025-05-1436 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkFrom Burnout to Breakthrough: Michiel’s Journey Back to Purpose and CallingIn this episode, Michiel shares his journey of how his first love was reignited—his relationship with God and a renewed sense of purpose. Having once built a business rooted in faith but ultimately burning out, Michiel speaks candidly about the challenges of maintaining spiritual clarity amid the pressures of entrepreneurship.A turning point came for him at the Business as Mission (BAM) Congress, where an encounter awakened his calling toward business in the Middle East, particularly Iraq. If you want to contact Michiel, please email info@bammoves.com, and we will connect you.Tra...
2025-04-3037 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkHow the Worlds of Business and Ministry Can Work TogetherIn this episode, Matt Wagner continues to share his experiences of integrating ministry and business. Building on his previous story, he elaborates on his journey as a business and church leader.
Matt refers to the five-fold ministry model, which links the church’s structure to the human body, and how the five gifts from Ephesians 4—apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and evangelists—are essential for a healthy church. This framework also applies to business, where Matt and Bill see a similar need for the various gifts to function within companies.
Matt shares how these principles can lead t...
2025-04-1629 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBridging the Gap: Uniting Church and Business for God's KingdomMatt Wagner believes that the future of ministry involves blending the realms of church and business to fulfill God’s calling in new and transformative ways. He shares his journey of learning to embrace both his talents in church leadership and business entrepreneurship.
Matt felt a calling to plant churches early in life, but church planting proved financially difficult, leading him to venture into business. He started a roofing company, which grew rapidly. Eventually, he expanded into custom home building. It was a busy life, and he felt the disconnect between the church and the bus...
2025-04-0233 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkGod’s Hand in Business: A Vision for Kingdom Impact in IraqHana is a business owner in Iraq. He has a desire to create networks of Christian entrepreneurs in his home country, and to develop projects that provide jobs and support ministries. In this podcast he shares his journey into business. Hana was raised in a Catholic family and experienced a profound transformation when he was eighteen years old. He started his business in 2018 after working for many years in non-profits. His journey from employee to business owner was challenging, particularly due to his internal struggle with transitioning from the non-profit to for-profit mindset. Over time, he realized t...
2025-03-1933 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkA Journey of Resilience: Overcoming Adversity in BusinessBill recounts a journey of entrepreneurial resilience amidst adversity, starting with a small business venture in China. Despite challenges like political tensions and losing his first business partner, he persisted. Through faith and innovation, he diversified into stained glass and later pioneered collectible villages. Each setback, like losing a major client, only spurred creative solutions and spiritual growth. Bill emphasizes relying on God's guidance and maintaining a humble, inclusive workplace culture, empowering unexpected leaders. His story illustrates how faith and business intertwine, urging listeners to see challenges as opportunities for spiritual and professional growth, fostering...
2025-03-0528 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkIntellectual Humility, Childlike Trusts and the Kingdom JourneyThis episode with Bill Job encourages listeners to embrace a childlike attitude, characterized by trust, openness to learning, and a playful approach to challenges, which can lead to deeper spiritual growth and connection with God.Bill shares his journey of recognizing the limitations of his own knowledge and the need for intellectual humility. He describes a moment when God revealed to him the idea of having categories for understanding scripture, like wooden mailboxes. Without these categories, certain teachings and ideas would not make sense. Bill reflects on how this realization led to a shift in his thinking...
2025-02-1930 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkDiscovering God in the Workplace; His Amazing PersonalityIn this episode Bill shares how his initial perspective of God as a distant authority, changed through personal experiences that revealed God’s warm, engaging personality. One key moment was calculating the miracle of turning water into wine, which highlighted God’s celebration and relational nature.A reenactment of the prodigal son further showcased unconditional, overwhelming love.Influenced by these insights, Bill now practices inclusive, compassionate business leadership, hiring people based on their potential rather than conventional qualifications. His story encourages a deeper, genuine relationship with God that brings joy, adventure, and abundant life into work and ever...
2025-02-0530 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBringing Jobs and Hope; Expanding a Coffee Business to Empower Farmers in AsiaIn this podcast Gea talks with Eric and Annebeth, a couple from the Netherlands, who are moving to Asia to expand a coffee business aimed at helping local farmers. While preparing for their move, they decided to work together with the mission organization Interserve, which supports people globally in integrating faith with their work. Because, besides helping farmers economically, they also seek ways to share their Christian faith. Their mission is not just to grow a business but to bring lasting change to the community. Their goal is to increase the number of farmers from 250 to 1,000, improving t...
2025-01-2228 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBart Kuijpers: Co-Founder of Coolblue and His Faith-Fueled JourneyBart Kuijpers, co-founder of Coolblue, highlights the importance of integrating faith into entrepreneurship. In this conversation, Bart shares how Coolblue was launched in 1999, starting with selling MP3 players online. With a strong emphasis on excellent service and delighting customers, Coolblue became a highly recognized brand across the Netherlands. After 15 years, Bart yearned for more adventure and deeper alignment with God’s guidance. Bart then founded Royalis Investments with Maurits Roose, focusing on Christian entrepreneurs as they see them as potential modern-day pastors who can offer mentorship and guidance to their employees as well as to bro...
2025-01-0831 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkStepping into God’s Theodrama as Wounded Healers in the MarketplaceIn this episode, Gea, Bill and Mats Tunehag (Chairman of BAM Global) discuss the concept of Business as Mission and the realities of being “wounded healers” in the marketplace. Mats emphasizes that personal struggles, whether betrayals or depression, are not disqualifiers but part of a deeper process of transformation. He refers to the Japanese art form kintsugi—repairing broken pottery with gold—to illustrate how God doesn’t merely patch up our wounds but uses them to shape us into something more beautiful and whole. Bill emphasizes that responding to challenges with prayer, forgiveness, and reliance on God leads t...
2024-12-2332 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkMats Tunehag: The Global Impact of Business as Mission (BAM)In this podcast episode, Gea Gort, Bill Job, and Mats Tunehag discuss the global Business as Mission (BAM) movement. The movement’s foundation was shaped by global think tanks involving business people, theologians, and church leaders, resulting in over 35 reports exploring various BAM-related topics. One notable output was the Wealth Creation Manifesto, which explores biblical perspectives on wealth.The movement has grown exponentially over the past 30 years, with BAM businesses now operating in over 20 languages across multiple continents. Local, indigenous groups are increasingly adopting BAM principles, driven by their entrepreneurial spirit and the movement's decentralized nature. ...
2024-12-1132 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBiblical Truths Come Alive; The Power of ImaginationIn this episode, Gea Gort and Bill Job explore the role of imagination in deepening one’s spiritual journey and relationship with God. Bill shares his experiences of engaging with scripture through imaginative visualization; as a tool to perceive spiritual realities. He recounts practical examples, like visualizing sitting with God to review his stewardship of resources, which motivated him to implement transformative practices in his business. This included initiating prayer networks among employees, resulting in significant spiritual impact.He also describes reenacting the parable of the Prodigal Son, which profoundly revealed God's overwhelming love for humanity. These im...
2024-11-2730 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkOvercoming Worry; Shifting to a Kingdom PerspectiveThis episode, titled "Do Not Worry," explores teachings from the Sermon on the Mount, focusing on the idea that Jesus' commands should be viewed as directives rather than suggestions. Bill Job emphasizes that worrying is not just a personal issue but something that displeases God, hindering spiritual growth. He challenges the cultural notion that worry is a sign of responsibility, presenting it instead as a barrier to deeper faith.Bill shares his journey of adopting a kingdom worldview, which shifts focus from a self-centered perspective to one that prioritizes God's Kingdom. He explains that anxiety is not...
2024-11-1331 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBeyond Prayer: Cultivating an Ongoing Conversation with GodIn this episode, Bill and Gea discuss personal relationships with God, focusing on the importance of communication and listening. They refer to the biblical image of God as a shepherd who knows each sheep by name, as seen in John 10. Bill shares his thoughts on hearing God's voice, emphasizing that it's not just a metaphor but a real experience. He highlights the importance of clear guidance from God and our role in listening and obeying.
Gea shares her own journey of seeking divine direction during their marriage, which eventually led them to Mercy Ships. They reflect on...
2024-10-3030 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBill Job: Receiving Solutions from HeavenIn this episode of the "Kingdom Keys for Business, Life and Work" podcast, Bill Job and Gea Gort explore the theme of receiving divine solutions or "downloads from Heaven." They emphasize that God can be practically involved in addressing the challenges faced at work, which can be life-changing. In this third episode on this theme, they build on their previous discussions, and delve deeper into how listeners can open themselves to receive insights from God, emphasizing that spiritual relationships should feel normal rather than "spiritual".Bill references George Washington Carver, who received profound insights into his work...
2024-10-1629 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkFrom R&D to Market: Arun Prabhu's Journey with LancentArun Prabhu needs to take a long-term approach to launch and advance Lancent’s mission: tackling poverty-related diseases through affordable innovations. 'For the past fifteen years, we've operated as a research and development firm,' Arun explains. 'Now, we're close to market entry and preparing to deliver our products to the vulnerable communities in malaria-endemic countries. That's where the rubber meets the road.'During our first podcast with Arun in June 2023, he recounted how he and his current business partner created their first malaria net at his home in 2010. Since our conversation, a year and a ha...
2024-09-2935 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkArleen Westerhof; Healing the World through Business“Release the enabling to heal the world through business,” prays Arleen Westerhof at the end of this insightful conversation. Arleen is pastor, prophet, scientist and the founder of the Economic Summit. In this second podcast with her, she shares why we need to transform Global Aid and gives hopeful examples of how God is working through business to bring hope in needy areas worldwide. She firmly believes that God will grant wisdom to those who seek to align their businesses with His purposes of righteousness and justice, and encourages the listener: “Don’t think too small about what God may want...
2024-09-1836 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkArleen Westerhof: Divine solutions for Sick Systems“In prayer, we ask God for divine solutions for sick systems," shares Arleen Westerhof in this episode. Besides being a pastor, prophet, and scientist, she is the initiator of the Economic Summit and initiator and editor of the book 'A Europe Africa Agenda 2025-2100'. She continues, "Through the love and wisdom of Christ, we are called to bring healing and hope to areas where there is no hope." Arleen is globally engaged and connects business practitioners who catalyze positive change, thereby facilitating collaboration and multiplication. Arleen will be speaking at the Business as Mission Congress on Thursday, November 28th...
2024-09-0430 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkDivine Inspiration: Bill’s Miraculous Production Line StoryIn this podcast, Bill Job shares the story of how, during a crisis, he received ideas from God that enabled him to build a new production line within two months. The customer, who had seen the product line before, was amazed by the result and repeatedly called it miraculous. According to Bill, receiving solutions like this results from a natural relationship with the Owner of the factory. "I don’t take myself and my own skill sets too seriously," Bill shares, adding, "Stay aligned with God, and be playful about it!"Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Starting Ja...
2024-08-2133 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkReceiving Divine Solutions for Challenges at Work"God wants to be involved in our practical daily work," shares Bill. This is the first of three interviews with Bill in which he shares how he receives divine solutions for challenges at work. He shares biblical and historical examples and some of his own experiences. Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. In the first week of September 2024, Gea and Bill will host another 10-week training. Through joy-filled, to-the-point, easy-to-follow online lessons attractively presented in video, audio, and text, you’ll gain profound insights into how to align with God in life, work, and business.Learn more...
2024-08-0928 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkMike Davies and the BAM Vancouver JourneyMike Davies leads Business as Mission (BAM) Vancouver and is also involved in Youth with a Mission (YWAM). In this episode, he shares how he got involved with business leaders, why they started the first yearly BAM Vancouver conference in 2018, what has evolved since that time, and what BAM could look like in a Western context. Regarding his vision for the future, Mike says, “I don’t have particular goals; we take it a step at a time. I want to create the space for business folks to meet, because when people come together, things happen. It’s like facili...
2024-07-2430 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkGrayson Bain's Story; From Success to Significance:“God pulled the rug out from under me,” shares Grayson Bain. “He loved me more than all the things I was doing.” As the founder of bikes.com, this Canadian entrepreneur had his identity tied to the success of the company. In this podcast, he shares his journey of how God restored his identity. Also, what he learned through a company he started in close companionship with Kenyans: instead of ‘rescuing them’ and going at ‘white speed’, he saw the value of building community. Presently, he is advising business owners and has discovered the value of abiding in God. “The Holy Spirit is...
2024-07-1035 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkFrom Abandonment to Leadership: Lina's TransformationBill shares the amazing story of Lina, a disabled girl literally thrown away by her family, whom Bill met when she was eight years old. Over the years, he felt God nudging him to keep visiting her. It wasn’t always easy to stay in contact with her. Presently, Lina is in her forties and running their company in China. “From start to finish, it was Him going after Lina,” recalls Bill. “I felt a tug on my shirt that afternoon in that alley. I looked down and saw Lina. What if I hadn’t noticed? We better be attentive...
2024-06-2630 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkSewing Hope: Ana’s Social Business Mission Across ContinentsAna grew up in Nicaragua, surrounded by her mother’s sewing machines and design patterns. She was deeply moved by the sight of marginalized and abused women searching through garbage cans for anything useful. In her home country, she started using her skills in entrepreneurship and design to develop a social business aimed at providing work for marginalized women to restore their dignity through providing work; while working with them, loving them and sharing Christ's message she saw restoration while her business grew. Political unrest eventually brought her to Canada.
Nowadays, Ana has started a social business in...
2024-06-1235 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkHonoring All People has Eternal Value“I measure my decisions by the 400-year rule,” Bill Job shares in this podcast. “I imagine: how will I look back on my decision 400 years from now? This gives me an eternal perspective that stretches me out of my present life.” Bill continues: “People are eternal by nature, so how will my decision affect that person from an eternal point of view? Losing some productivity today in a work context might get another meaning.” Bill illustrates the practical implications of this decision-making approach, particularly in the context of honoring all people and the culture of honor they developed in the company...
2024-05-2930 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBeyond the Apron: Sara’s Recipe for Integrating Business and MissionSara Robertson runs Dirty Apron, a refined cooking school at a classy location downtown Vancouver. She candidly shares about the learning curves she and her husband went through in integrating business and mission. They had a background in mission (YWAM), but when they embarked on their entrepreneurial journey 17 years ago, they didn’t regard their business ‘as a mission’. “God revealed it to us in the process,” tells Sara and shares what she learned about finances and through a difficult, dark period with their staff. “I used to think that mission meant going to foreign places, but God brings the world he...
2024-05-1532 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkA Different Take on GenerosityGea Gort questions Bill on his different view of generosity. "It's not my money, I steward it for the Owner,' shares Bill, "So I can't be generous," is Bill's opinion. An interesting conversation develops on what that view entails.
2024-05-0130 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkThriving Amidst Adversities. Part 4. Building Fellowship & Expectation.In this podcast, we invite you to join our 8-week online program, Kingdom Mindsets for Business, starting May 14th. This includes four sessions led by both of us, and a personalized one-on-one session. Register before April 20th to unlock the 20% discount. More details on the BAM Moves page >>Bill shares in-depth on the theme 'Thriving Amidst Adversities', this time about a factory he started three years ago in the States, which hasn't been going well. "In China, I seem to be more spiritually alert, but it is easy to become comfortable in your home country," admits...
2024-04-1731 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkThriving Amidst Adversities. Part 3. Struggle With People.In this podcast, also a Special Offer: Increase your alignment with the Lord through our online training program. Including four enriching sessions led by both of us, alongside a personalized one-on-one session. Register before April 20th to unlock the 20% discount. Explore further details on the BAM Moves page >>This is part of a series with Bill on the theme 'Thriving Amidst Adversities'; we'll discuss ways to respond when people turn against us.Do you seek to deepen your alignment with the Lord in your business and work? We invite you to sign up for our...
2024-04-0328 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkThriving Amidst Adversities. Part 2. No Sales.Special Offer: Align with the Lord in your daily working life through our online training program! Engage in four enriching sessions led by both of us, alongside a personalized one-on-one session. Register before April 20th to unlock the 20% discount. Explore further details on the BAM Moves page >>This is part of a series with Bill on the theme 'Thriving Amidst Adversities.' Bill shares a present challenge this time: a Texas factory he started and invested in. After 1,5 years of a faulty production process and hardly any sales, he decided to take responsibility for leadership. Even though t...
2024-03-2026 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkThriving Amidst Adversities. Part 1. Economic Downturn.This episode marks the beginning of a series with Bill on the theme 'Thriving Amidst Adversities.' Drawing from past experiences and witnessing God coming through time and again, his faith was strengthened. However, not everything unfolded as expected, such as the production line coming to a halt due to the global economic downturn. Despite rehiring some employees later, over a hundred people lost their jobs during that challenging period. Bill felt guided to organize a grieving ceremony, providing people with an opportunity to mourn and receive comfort from the Lord and one another.For Bill...
2024-03-0630 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkA Seamless Integration of Business and Mission: Mike Baer's JourneyIn this episode, we speak with Mike Baer, who has been actively engaged in the Business as Mission (BAM) movement for over 30 years. He shares insights into his journey, recounting how he transitioned from his role as a pastor to enter the business world due to a desire to connect with non-Christians. Over the years, he experienced a transformative shift in his worldview, as God guided him towards developing an integrated perspective on business and mission.
Mike is the founder of the Third Path Initiative, a platform offering practical training for individuals aspiring to launch their own...
2024-02-2139 min
The Business as Mission Podcast with Mike BaerDriving BAM Impact in the Netherlands—An Interview with BAM Netherlands’ Gea GortGea Gort has come a long way since she and husband, Menno Gort served on Mercy Ships. Learning to see a ship as a floating business, Gea was led more and more into the world of BAM and today, she leads BAM Netherlands. Her insight, passion, and intelligence will challenge and inspire you. Gea will be speaking at the BAM Vancouver conference in early March (for more info, www.bamvancouver.org). She and her team will host another BAM Congress in the Netherlands in November 2024 (www.businessasmission.nl). Recently, she and BAM leader Bill Job launched Kingdom Keys for Business...
2024-02-1529 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkIntentional Gospel Advancement: Colin Crawley's Approach to SuccessThe Gospel is not just good; it's great," declares Colin Crawley in this engaging discussion about intentional evangelism in a business setting. Colin, owner of Bauhinia Consulting, advises business leaders on advancing the Gospel within their enterprises. When hired by a company, Colin conducts research, provides a diagnostic report on the missional potential of the business, discusses spiritual goals with the leaders and trains for success. Colin acknowledges, "God is the one drawing people to Him, and He is responsible for the output, but we can influence the input." He shares both measured numbers and impactful stories, such as...
2024-02-0733 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkThe Story of Dordrecht's Urban Hostel-Monastery (Stadsklooster Dordt)"Both business and mission will increase here," shares Erwin Wietses, the visionary behind a modern Urban Hostel-Monastery' (Stadsklooster): a design hostel, hotel, and restaurant, complete with a chapel. With the integration of business and ministry in mind, a beautiful historical building in downtown Dordrecht has undergone a total transformation. Together with his team-mate Rob Veenstra, Erwin shares how the concept started and evolved. Both have a background in youth work and prayer ministry in the city. Prior to launching this hostel-monastery, they gained experience in integrating business and mission through building a prayer community while utilizing the rented church-building...
2024-01-2435 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkTrailblazers of BAM: Hans Hamoen and Bill JobIn this episode Gea and Bill engage in a conversation with Hans Hamoen, a businessman in his seventies, and still ‘on a mission’. He is involved in various Central Asian countries, but his journey began four decades ago as a Bible smuggler, using his trading business to transport Bibles from the Netherlands into communist countries. Witnessing incredible manifestations of God and experiencing miraculous provisions has significantly contributed to building faith and courage in his life. Even though he assures that this hasn’t been the case all the time: ““As in natural life, also in our spiritual life, we should mat...
2024-01-1034 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkHarmen van der Laan: Building Bridges through Social EntrepreneurshipIn this episode we talk with social entrepreneur Harmen van der Laan, who is very engaged in his neighborhood – a multicultural area in Delft, The Netherlands. His engagement led him to start a printing business. It is Harmen’s experience that a business can be a great way to build meaningful relationships. He has chosen to be transparent about the daily challenges he encounters as the owner, stating: “My vulnerability gives them permission to also share about their own struggles.” Harmen adds, “The result is an open, family-like culture.”
For those with a similar desire, Harmen encourages them not to...
2023-12-2735 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkInvesting with Purpose: Unveiling the Joy of Kingdom-Centric VenturesIn this episode, investor Bert* shares his enthusiasm for investing in businesses with a Kingdom purpose. The spiritual bond with committed owners deepens the relationship, surpassing mere financial involvement. This connection brings both joys and challenges. The conversation unfolds as an enlightening exchange on the importance of maintaining a healthy perspective on finances—a crucial 'fuel' for any business. As Bill Job reflects on his own journey in this area, he notes, "So our businesses can transition from survival to thriving and bear much more fruit as a result."As Bert and Gea share in this podcast, th...
2023-12-1331 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBuilding Muscle: Bill Job's Journey Through Business ChallengesIn this podcast, Bill Job shares how he navigated the initial challenges of conducting business in China. He imparts valuable insights, emphasizing the reality that a smooth journey should not be expected in a world that is inherently imperfect, with flawed individuals—including himself.Bill acknowledges that people may disappoint us, but he draws inspiration from the biblical principle of blessing one's enemies, which they actively practiced. Bill consistently underscores the belief that God is the owner of the company, while emphasizing that God is present every day, desiring to navigate us through turbulent waters.Th...
2023-11-2928 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkFrom Insecurity to Innovation: How Abiding in God Enhances Business PerformanceDiscover the powerful link between abiding in God and business success in this enlightening discussion with Bill Job and Pauline Skeates. They explore the profound influence of these practices – also on business outcomes. Bill, an experienced business professional, and Pauline, a therapist with extensive knowledge of the human mind, present unique viewpoints. Drawing from her neurological research, Pauline explains why these connections may seem unexpected. She delves into the fascinating brain transformations during these processes.
Ambitious goals often trigger insecurity and tunnel vision, hindering problem-solving. However, by cultivating a sense of security our brains open up to in...
2023-11-1532 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkMoney, Profit, and Faith: A Conversation with Ronald de BruinHow should we approach money, profit, and wealth? In our discussion with Ronald de Bruin, a construction business owner, Bill Job and Gea Gort engaged in an intriguing conversation about financial matters. Bill shared some of his insights on how he perceives himself as a steward, a perspective that deepened as he explored during his journey the idea that God is the true owner of his business. Bill emphasizes that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to handling these matters, as our individual histories, contexts, and personalities shape our understanding. There is no fixed "method" apart from building a relationship...
2023-11-0138 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkExploring Business as Mission: Insights from Mats TunehagToday, our guest is Mats Tunehag, a prominent leader within the global Business as Mission (BAM) movement. He shares what motivated him to become involved. This Swedish leader played a key role in facilitating a global ThinkTank, bringing together leaders from various fields with the aim of creating a common language to foster the development of a global movement. In this discussion, he will explain the background and development of BAM; the Concept, Praxis, and Movement. Furthermore, he will provide insights into what is happening worldwide and how a growing number of business leaders from every continent are actively...
2023-10-1831 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBless Your Enemies; Journeying in a World at WarBill Job recounts a harrowing experience when his life was threatened by the very person he had entrusted to manage his business. This incident occurred when he had just started his Business as Mission endeavor in China. It marked the beginning of a transformative journey that led him into a deeper realization of the ‘world at war’ we’ve entered as Christians. A journey also into a deeper understanding of the commands God gave us to keep us safe and even thrive amidst of it. In this case: the command to forgive, and even bless our enemies. Explo...
2023-10-0430 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkNurturing Flourishing Teams: Insights from Tiemen van Dijk, CEO of Visscher-Caravelle"Love is like the sun and air for nature; when it's present, teams flourish and become fruitful," is the experience of Tiemen van Dijk. He serves as the CEO of Visscher-Caravelle, a leading company in the car mats industry. Headquartered in the Netherlands and with additional locations in Poland, Mexico, and China, the Visscher-Caravelle group employ 2000 people worldwide. Tiemen's primary focus is on nurturing people's growth through team building, emphasising trust, connection, diversity, and equality. His inspiration draws from biblical roots, influenced by figures like Christian Schwarz (Natural Church Development) and relational thinker Dr. Michael Schluter, founder of the J...
2023-09-2032 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkDoes God have a Personality?Does God have a personality? Bill Job shares how he was one day confronted by God with this question. He had learned in seminary about God’s character but had never considered what God's personality would be like. This question set him on a journey that helped him gain a deeper understanding of beautiful aspects of God's personality. It made him delight in God and desire to develop a relationship with Him. Bill Job and Gea Gort also address the role of awe in our relationship with God. Bill shares some of his experiences in this area bu...
2023-09-0631 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkHow can Prophecy have a Role in Business?A thought-provoking exchange between business leader Bill Job and prophet Sander Wuister about the role of prophecy in business. Sander regularly prays for businesses and (business)leaders. Bill shares his experiences in this area, and why he decided to have a prophet as a business consultant on the pay-roll. Listen to this revealing talk about the pit-falls and benefits. Bill and Sander also encourage us to develop this gift in our own lives, as a loving Father likes to give us insight and revelation. Sander Wuister has a PhD in chemistry, had a leading job himself in a...
2023-08-2339 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkJan-Willem Visser 'Sowing in Society & His Kingdom'Jan-Willem Visser is co-owner of www.Sowmedia.nl an IT company in the Netherlands. Jan-Willem and Bill Job exchange experiences how sowing can be done in a business setting; sowing into society and into Gods Kingdom. Bill shares how he takes Gods ownership seriously and learned to be playful. Jan-Willem tells how he involves their employees in serving society, his choice to take rest seriously, but also shares about the challenging time when he went through the break-up with a former co-owner. An interesting exchange between two business leaders how they follow God in the workspace, hosted by Gea G...
2023-08-0934 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBill Job's background and journey into Business as MissionBill shares about his background, how his journey into China evolved and how he learned early on about the importance of a personal relationship with the Lord. Looking back, after more than thirty years of BAM-entrepreneurships in China, he has some take-aways: 1. Get a stable partner (when you are a risk-taking entrepreneur) 2. Know your identity in Christ 3. Tap into the resources God has for us 4. Learn to know who the Lord is; the CEO of the Kingdom. The course 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business, Life & Work' developed by Gea Gort and Bill Job will help you uncover more i...
2023-07-2636 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkGods presence on the workfloor - an honest exchangeGea and Bill talk with Bob Houter about the desire to be spiritually fruitful in daily working life and the challenges that come with it on the work floor. He founded Sixty Fruits; a business with the main aim to serve people who deal with various challenges in their lives. Sixty Fruits provides jobs and coaching - which is called in the Netherlands a 'Social Business'. The people in the company make beautiful furniture for the high-end market through renovating furniture from the sixties > www.sixtyfruits.nlDo you want to grow in your walk with God i...
2023-07-1234 minKingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkGods presence on the workfloor - an honest exhangeGea and Bill talk with Bob Houter about the desire to be spiritually fruitful in daily working life and the challenges that come with it on the work floor. He founded Sixty Fruits; a business with the main aim to serve people who deal with various challenges in their lives. Sixty Fruits provides jobs and coaching - which is called in the Netherlands a 'Social Business'. The people in the company make beautiful furniture for the high-end market through renovating furniture from the sixties > www.sixtyfruits.nlDo you want to grow in your walk with God i...
2023-07-1234 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkLandcent; A Business Addressing Poverty-Related DiseasesArun Prabhu Stanley shares about his journey with God and how he felt led to start a business dedicated to fighting poverty-related diseases like malaria. It was at his residence in 2008 that he and his friend developed their very first malaria net. One of Landcent’s main mission is to utilize sustainable and paradigm-shifting innovations based on natural herbs and plants to combat diseases of poverty, such as malaria. Landcent’s European office is based in the Netherlands, and you can learn more about them at www.landcent.nl. If you want to know how to specifically support Arun, visi...
2023-06-2636 min
Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & WorkBill Job: a transformational BAM-journey'All my basic ideas about Christianity turned out to be wrong'. In this first episode of Kingdom Keys for Business, you'll get to know Bill Job as he shares how his ideas were transformed during his journey as a business leader in China where he lived and worked for thirty years. He learned to partner with God in new ways, and saw extraordinary things happen. A bi-weekly podcast where Gea and Bill are searching for Kingdom Keys for Business. The course 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business, Life & Work' developed by Gea and Bill will explore into more detail t...
2023-06-2539 min