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Gemma Godfrey & Phoebe Kaufman
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Money Can't Buy You Class
THE KARDASHIANS ARE OVER W/ EMILY SEGAL
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by author, editor, trend forecaster, and all-around mastermind Emily Segal to discuss the unholy self sacrifice of celebrity, why The Kardashians is less successful than its predecessor, the secret lives of the Kardashian sisters, ANXIETY, which sister Phoebe wants to sleep with most, and Bethenny Frankel’s brilliantly addicting TikTok. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on Instagram and @sad_porous_grad on Twitter. And like comment subscribe :)
2022-11-18
1h 20
Money Can't Buy You Class
CONGA LINE TO HELL
Gemma and Phoebe discuss Kathy Hilton’s conga line to hell, Kardashian numerology, surrogacy and abortion, the explosive finale of the Bachelorette, and the presence of absence. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on Instagram and @sad_porous_grad on Twitter. And plzzz like comment subscribe lol
2022-10-14
1h 12
Money Can't Buy You Class
ON TRANSACTION
Gemma and Phoebe talk about European vacations, what gives in friendship, why this season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is NOT boring, Kathy’s tequila, Kim's SKKY, the trope of the “make up,” the world of the public image, and touch on the confusing finale of The Bachelorette. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on Instagram and @sad_porous_grad on Twitter. And plzzz like comment subscribe lol
2022-10-08
1h 10
Money Can't Buy You Class
DECODING THE REHEARSAL W/ @Decode_cast
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by @YAgamben and @CNoumena of DECODE podcast (@Decode_cast) to discuss post-post-modernism, sincerity, Plato's ethics, used cOndoms, and the camera-as-character in Nathan Fielder's The Rehearsal, a television show about actors. Read "Attention, Reality, and Sincerity" by @CNoumena —> https://cutenoumena.substack.com/p/attention-reality-and-sincerity Listen to Decode —> patreon.com/Decodecast Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-09-09
1h 19
Money Can't Buy You Class
MOLLYWORLD W/ MOLLY LAMBERT
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by Molly Lambert (creator of Heidiworld: The Heidi Fleiss Story, streaming everywhere you find your podcasts) to discuss everything from the “violence of desire” to what to do with racism on TV, Charlie “Chaz” Sheen, the narrative identity of the LAPD, and Cardi B. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-08-12
1h 10
Money Can't Buy You Class
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED W/ NAOMI FRY
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by New Yorker staff writer Naomi Fry to discuss motherhood, Judaism, Kyle Richards, what it means to be an outsider, feeling comforted by recognition, the pleasure of reality television crossovers, and false feminism. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-07-29
1h 35
Money Can't Buy You Class
ULTIMATE GHOULS TRIP
Gemma and Phoebe dissect the second season of Peacock’s Ultimate Girls Trip, focussing on the various elements of haunting (at Bluestone Manor and beyond), how the Housewives franchise could perhaps be characterized as a man, the exacting-yet-subtle humor which makes a perfect housewife, and touch upon how Kim’s SKIMS has moved beyond skin. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-07-09
1h 13
Money Can't Buy You Class
CACIO E PEPE
Gemma and Phoebe return to talk about why recapping is the most boring version of discussing reality television, the drama of misspeaking on the current season of Beverly Hills, and the focus on professionalization and sisterly differentiation on season one of The Kardashians. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-06-25
1h 14
Money Can't Buy You Class
CYCLES OF INDIVIDUALITY
Gemma and Phoebe discuss the first five episodes of Hulu’s The Kardashians and the first episode of Season 12 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, touching on performed suffering, the creation of the individual, and how doubles are cringe. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-05-20
56 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
CATCHING UP
Gemma and Phoebe discuss NeNe Leakes suing Bravo, the dreaded-yet-dreamy Selling Sunset Reunion, the anti-future of Vanderpump Rules, and, of course, G-Flip. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-05-13
54 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
REALITY SQUARED W/ TOM SYVERSON
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by Tom Syverson, author of Reality Squared (Zer0 Books, 2021) to defend reality television. They discuss the gendered divide of who watches and why, the nuances of the real, and why postmodernism is the most popular lens through which to understand the medium. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-04-22
1h 04
Money Can't Buy You Class
PODDING SUNSET
Gemma and Phoebe discuss the intertwinement of fantasy and reality on the hit Netflix reality show, Selling Sunset. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-04-08
1h 01
Money Can't Buy You Class
THE BACHELOR IS BLIND W/ MIA ANTEZZO
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by friend of the pod Mia Antezzo to discuss the nationalist tactics of love, the relationship between imagination and disappointment, and approximations of reality on ABC’s The Bachelor and Netflix’s Love is Blind. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-03-25
1h 11
Money Can't Buy You Class
COP WITHOUT A BADGE W/ EMMA BURKE
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by @iamageniuspod host Emma Burke to discuss seasons 1-4 of The Real Housewives of New Jersey through the lens of Charles Kipps' Cop Without a Badge, the revelatory biography of Danielle Staub's ex-fiance, Kevin Maher. They touch on: the internal logic of the Family, paranoid delusion, and how to pronounce the word "ingredientses." Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-03-12
1h 08
Money Can't Buy You Class
POD OF HILTON
Gemma and Phoebe discuss Jerry Oppenheimer’s unauthorized Hilton family biography, House of Hilton, and its relationship to Paris Hilton’s vibe shift. Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-02-25
54 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
KEEPING UP WITH KIERKEGAARD W/ DANIEL NEOFETOU
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by writer and scholar Daniel Neofetou to discuss interiority and the relationship between objecthood and objectification in Keeping up with the Kardashians. Rereading Abstract Expressionism, Clement Greenberg and the Cold War by Daniel Neofetou Follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo) moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site
2022-02-11
1h 03
Money Can't Buy You Class
WATCH WHAT HAPPENED LIVE
Gemma and Phoebe discuss the Vanderpump Rules Season 9 Reunion, the end of James and Raquel and the possible end of Vanderpump Rules, what “high school” means on reality television, and the firing of Jennie Nguyen. Also Gemma saw Kim Kardashian in the flesh at an art opening. visit us at moneycantbuyyouclass.cargo.site follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo)
2022-02-04
1h 04
Money Can't Buy You Class
SLCONSPIRACY W/ RY DUNN
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by poet Ry Dunn to take a deep dive into The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City through the lens of conspiracy: Did Jen really do it? Is Meredith’s business a CIA front? Why does Whitney know so much about money laundering? How might the conspiratorial ethos of QAnon be refracted into SLC’s Season 2 plot line and production? follow @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod on instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter (don't forget to like, comment & subscribe xoxo)
2022-01-24
45 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
FOXY LADY W/ JASMINE JOHNSON
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by Jasmine Johnson (@jasmine.johnson) to discuss why everyone is discussing Julia Fox. What we read: “Break the Internet: Pete Davidson,” Tommy Dorfman (Paper Mag) “Break the Internet: Kim Kardashian,” Amanda Fortini (Paper Mag) “Date Night,” Julia Fox (Interview Mag) “A Retired Dominatrix Goes to Church,” Naomi Fry (The New Yorker) “Kim and Kanye and Pete and Julia,” Naomi Fry (The New Yorker) “When Instagram Killed the Tabloid Star,” Amanda Hess (NYT) “My Dinner with Kanye,” Natasha Stagg (Substack) “Ye’s True Love is Hiding in Plain Sight,” Rachel Tashjian (GQ) “Coolest Person in the Room: Julia Fo...
2022-01-17
56 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
NOT ALL DIAMONDS AND KIMMY K
Gemma and Phoebe convene for the first time in 2022 to talk about Dave Quinn’s “Not All Diamonds and Rose,” the first “The Kardashians” teaser, what Time means in the ever-expanding universe of reality television, interior design vs. the inner lives of rich women, and the inception of the Housewives.
2022-01-09
56 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU CHRISTMAS
Gemma and Phoebe continue their conversation about the reality television cinematic universe by pivoting to Kyle Richards’ Christmas debut, “The Housewives of the North Pole,” along with other Christmas classics: “Love Actually” and “The Holiday.” Are holiday rom-coms part of a larger conversation about the intertwinement of reality and fantasy? Where does the Real enter into the form of redundancy?
2021-12-25
58 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
CINEMATIC REVOLVING DOOR
Gemma and Phoebe return to discuss: the meta verse, cyborg-kardashians, b-footage and apple screensavers, greek tragedy, jesus slandering, the relationship between faith and reality, cults, types of housewive criminals, the scripted and reality cinematic universe, and HBO vs. Bravo.
2021-12-20
56 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
PARCE QUE JE SUIS SEXY
Gemma and Phoebe discuss the intellectualization of reality television, the spiritual significance of NBC’s Peacock’s peacock, and the end-as-rebirth of the Real Housewives franchise.
2021-12-02
1h 00
Money Can't Buy You Class
TRUE CRIME-WIVES OF SALT LAKE CITY W/ CASON HALL
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by friend of the pod and fellow Real Housewives Scholar Cason Hall (@vacation_cason) to discuss RHOSLC’s explosive road trip to Vail and the infamous arrest of Jen Shah. What is true crime? Who are you in the apocalypse? What road trip snacks would you bring? What products would you promote? Follow us on instagram @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod in instagram & @sad_porous_grad on twitter
2021-11-18
1h 26
Money Can't Buy You Class
THE BEGINNING OF THE END, RHOBH REUNION PT 4 RECAP
Gemma and Phoebe express their reunion fatigue as they discuss face expressions as plot, social crime vs. legal crime, and the dark surrealism of watching reality shows week-by-week.
2021-11-12
59 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
BURIED ALIVE W/ GRACIE HADLAND
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by writer and LA socialite Gracie Hadland to discuss celebrity closet-tombs, vagina tunnels, and the notion of empty desire in Architectural Digest’s Open Door series. READINGS: Inside Hilary Duff's Family Home With A Chicken Coop | Open Door | Architectural Digest Inside Adam Levine & Behati Prinsloo's Serene L.A. Home | Open Door | Architectural Digest Inside Cara Delevingne's Fantastical L.A. Home | Open Door | Architectural Digest Inside Dakota Johnson's Serene Hollywood Home | Open Door | Architectural Digest Inside Vanessa Hudgens's Enchanting L.A. Home | Open Do...
2021-11-07
1h 11
Money Can't Buy You Class
OUROBOROS OF CONTENT, RHOBH REUNION PT 2 & 3 RECAP
Gemma and Phoebe talk about parts two and three of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion: What happens when we view a talk show host through a parasitical lens? How does wealth further stratify notions of the woman? Is the weekly structure of the Real Housewives franchise an antiquated concept?
2021-11-01
47 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
DELUDED & ALLEGED, RHOBH REUNION PT 1 RECAP
Gemma and Phoebe dive into the first of the four-part Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion to discuss Erika Jayne’s cinematic strategies, wealth as an indication of delusion, and LA Confidential
2021-10-16
53 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
ENTER THE VOID
Gemma and Phoebe discuss the social mechanics of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, contemplate the end of Vanderpump Rules, and lament that there is nothing left to binge watch.
2021-10-08
55 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
THE D'AMELIO POD
Gemma and Phoebe talk about Hulu’s The D’Amelio Show, if they are precursors to or successors of the Kardashians, and their situation as Gen Z arbiters of Boomer teenage tropes. Readings: Naomi Fry, According to “The D’Amelio Show,” Being Famous on TikTok Sucks
2021-09-28
55 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
VANDERPUMP RUBINS w/ Becca Teich
Becca Teich (@w0rmwrm) returns to the pod to join Gemma and Phoebe as they deep dive into queer theorist Gayle Rubin’s opus to think though sex work, kink, and heterosexuality as a cultural normalizing device in Vanderpump Rules. Bonus Feature: A brief conversation about Camille Donatacci’s Playboy’s Playmates Exposed photoshoot feat. a Miata. Readings: Gayle Rubin, Deviations: https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/1560/DeviationsA-Gayle-Rubin-Reader "Contagion, Brenda Iijima Interviews Rebecca Teich" Follow Money Can't Buy You Class on Instagram @moneycantbuyyouclass_pod & @sad_porous_grad on twitter
2021-09-20
59 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
THE FUTURE OF REALITY (TELEVISION) PT. 2
Gemma and Phoebe contemplate the ending of The Real Housewives of New York City, close read COME TO LIFE from Kanye’s new album, DONDA, and psychoanalyze their waning and waxing obsession with the trivialities of older women. Readings: Come to Life, Kanye West - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SsrVGHJvaA
2021-09-08
1h 00
Money Can't Buy You Class
The Future of the End w/ Natasha Stagg
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by cultural critic and novelist Natasha Stagg to discuss the various social and technological implications of final season of Keeping up with the Kardashians, the desire for revelation, and cinematically-disguised tackiness.
2021-08-22
1h 08
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RUTHLESS & UNAFRAID
Gemma & Phoebe recap the penultimate episode of The Bachelorette, discussing Milton’s Paradise Lost, the purgatorial affect of middles, and the choice of the camera over true love. Read/Watch: "Of Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit..." John Milton, Paradise Lost The Bachelorette: Season 17, Episodes 8 & 9 Return of the Real, by Phoebe Kaufman in Forever Magazine https://forevermag.net/Phoebe-Kaufman-Return-of-the-Real Kimposium! The Sequel - September 14-16, 2021 https://www.brunel.ac.uk/research/Institutes/Institute-of-Communities-and-Society/Kimposium
2021-08-10
54 min
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RECAP: NYC, BH, & The Pressure of Being Seen
Gemma & Phoebe discuss the current seasons of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills & Real Housewives of New York City, with a focus on class allegiance, the racialization of emotionality, & the feminine politics of aging.
2021-07-26
57 min
Money Can't Buy You Class
BACHELOR NATION W/ ELOISE & TOBIAS HESS
Gemma & Phoebe are joined by Eloise Hess & our first Gen Z-er, Tobias Hess, to discuss the fragile & confounding world of The Bachelorette. We focus on the Season 17, Episode 3 trauma episode, the compulsion to share stories, and the enforcement of intimacy. Song of the week: Greatest Lover - Katie Thurston by Connor B. From Nashville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8rn306F-Q Readings: The Cult of Storytelling, Tobias Hess https://genzero.substack.com/p/the-cult-of-storytelling The Moral Precarity of Telling our Stories, Tobias Hess
2021-07-19
1h 23
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WE WENT TO SUR
Gemma & Phoebe struggle to convey the emotional minutia & toll of their night out at Lisa Vanderpump’s supposedly acclaimed West Hollywood restaurants, Sur & Pump. Gemma tries the Goat Cheese Balls, Phoebe reviews the bathrooms, and both revel in the vulnerability of fandom. Bravo Song of the Week: Raise your glass - Memoir featuring Dena Deadly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQyLehzSpIE Readings: SUR Menu https://surrestaurant.com/dinner-menu
2021-07-01
1h 09
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BIOKKWOSMIST POETICS w/ Emmett Mathison
Gemma and Phoebe are joined by the infinity-obsessed Emmett Mathison to discuss holograms, resurrection, and the possibility that Kim Kardashian will never die. Housewives single of the week: “Revelation” by Gretchen Rossi (Orange County) Episodes Keeping up with the Kardashians, S20 EP4 + EP5 Readings Jean Baudrillard Simulacra and Simulation: Ch. 11, Holograms Alexander Bogdanov Essays in Tektology Mackenzie Wark Molecular Red Pierre Teilhard de Chardin The Formation of the Noosphere Alexander Svyatogor Biocosmist Poetics Anastasia Gacheva Art as the Overcoming of Deat...
2021-06-14
1h 11
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THE FUTURE OF REALITY (TELEVISION) PT. 1
Gemma and Phoebe get lost in the inarticulate void of the future of reality television. https://danielpinchbeck.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-art https://www.vulture.com/article/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-divorce.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Absinthe
2021-05-26
47 min
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THE GAYEST SHOW ON EARTH W/ BECCA TEICH
Gemma & Phoebe are joined by our favorite Adorno scholar Becca Teich to discuss Vanderpump Rules’ stakes in the culture industry and fascist propaganda. Buy Becca’s Caffeine Chronicles from Portable Press here: https://yoyolabs.com/teich.html
2021-05-07
1h 27
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ALIEN VS. BUNKER W/ CHRIS
Phoebe and Gemma are joined by Chris (@YAgambem) to take a deep dive into the Kardashian obsession with apocalypse and RHOBH’s Erika Jayne’s legal… situation.
2021-04-24
1h 01
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SCARY ISLAND W/ ALEX WEINSTOCK
Gemma & Phoebe are joined by Housewives fan Alex Weinstock to discuss Kelly Bensimon, psychosis, Manet’s Olympia, and Al Sharpton
2021-04-15
1h 15
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Kovid Kris(is) Pt. 2
Gemma & Phoebe talk about dolphins, grief and aging, and RHONY’s exhausting 12th season. Yikes.
2021-04-09
1h 00
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Kovid Kris(is) Pt. 1
Gemma & Phoebe discuss the first episode of the final season of Keeping up with the Kardashians.
2021-04-08
32 min
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Live Life
Gemma & Phoebe talk about Doreen St. Felix’s read of SLC as “culturally sensitive trash,” the Violence of Brooks Marks, Juergen Teller, and the celebrity obsession with Living Life
2021-04-07
1h 13
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Satan's Circle
Gemma & Phoebe talk about RHONY’s obsession with the Devil, Anton Szandor LaVey, & female prophets.
2021-04-07
1h 16
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Own It!!!
Gemma & Phoebe talk about trauma, accountability, & icon Aviva Drescher.
2021-03-30
1h 08
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Mask On/Mask Off
Gemma & Phoebe discuss Meredith Marks’ bejeweled mask, fascist architecture, & incest.
2021-03-30
57 min