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Who said what? With Heba and NiraOwning It in Your 40s: Aging, Identity & Knowing Who You Are with Zeinab HegartyRadio host Zeinab Hegarty joins us for an honest, hilarious, and raw conversation about life in your 40s. From dating younger men and adjusting to life in Cairo after moving from London in her 20s, to navigating career, identity, and societal pressures—Zeinab brings her signature wit and wisdom to the mic.We talk about aging, relationships, friendships, decision paralysis, and what no one really prepares you for as you grow older. She opens up about caring for her aunt with dementia, the emotional labor women are expected to carry, and how society subtly (an...2025-04-141h 07Who said what? With Heba and NiraLet’s Talk Menopause: Hormones, HRT & the Grey Zone with Dr. Hussein GoharIn this eye-opening episode of Who Said What?!, we sit down with leading OB/GYN Dr. Hussein Gohar, based in Cairo, Egypt, to talk all things perimenopause, menopause, and hormone health. After decades in gynecology, Dr. Gohar is now laser-focused on the often misunderstood and under-discussed phase of women’s lives: the menopause transition.We dive deep into:
What perimenopause really is and when it starts
The difference between menopause and perimenopause
The truth about Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and bioidentical hormones
Why hormonal tests might be useless during this phase
Alternatives to HR...2025-04-031h 05Who said what? With Heba and NiraWhy Is Setting Boundaries So Damn Hard?In this week’s episode of Who Said What?!, Heba and Nira get real about one of the trickiest topics out there: boundaries.Nira opens up about how she's learned to say no without the guilt—and how standing her ground has brought her peace. Heba, on the other hand, admits that her struggle to set boundaries often leads to confusion, burnout, and blurred lines in both personal and professional relationships.From friendship drama and childhood patterns to work stress and even White Lotus commentary, this episode is full of r...2025-03-2632 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraThe Psychology of Interior Design – with Ramzi EbeidEver wondered what really goes on behind the scenes in interior design in Egypt? From difficult clients to Pinterest copycats, Cairo-based interior designer Ramzi Ebeid joins us to talk about the realities of the design industry.We cover:1. The secret to creating timeless, original designs 🏡2. Why commercial projects move faster than residential ones3. The importance of vetting clients before taking on projects4. How OCD can actually be a design superpower ✨5. Why your first interior design project should always be freePlus, Ramzi reveals wha...2025-03-1946 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSteven Bartlett: A $250K Bet & The Art of FailingWe attended an exclusive event in Cairo hosted for Steven Bartlett, where he spoke about his experiences, his book The Diary of a CEO, and his insights on success, hiring, and risk-taking.In this episode, we share our biggest takeaways—from the event itself, what stood out the most in his talk, and whether his ideas would work in Egypt.
How is he so wise at such a young age? His clarity, sharp thinking, and ability to make every word count had us hooked.
Spending $250K on an NFT—genius or madness? We break down his bold...2025-03-1232 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraThe Truth About Weight Loss: Mindset, Stress & FoodIn this episode of Who Said What?!, we sit down with Fayrouz Eid, wellness coach and nutritionist, to unpack the real keys to sustainable weight loss, breaking unhealthy food cycles, and shifting your mindset for long-term health. Fayrouz opens up about her own weight gain journey after her first pregnancy, how she turned it around, and why deep health is more than just diet and exercise.We also dive into the pressure women face around food and body image, stress and its impact on weight, and how movement combined with intentional eating habits creates real transformation. Plus...2025-03-0554 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraWe Need a Social Media Detox (And Here’s Why)Are we addicted to social media, or is it just too much? This week, we get real about our love-hate relationship with the digital world.
Why Nira finds social media overwhelming and pointless
Heba’s take on why it makes us more connected yet more anxious
The selfie debate—cringe or totally normal?
The dangers of social media, AI, and why it’s ruining lives
Influencers, oversharing, and why attention is the new currency
Heba’s wild realization: a pediatrician said social media is worse than smoking for teens! 🤯
Why we all fear boredom but actually need it
Also: Bla...2025-02-2630 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraShut the F* Up & Listen: Amy Mowafi on Building MO4 & Surviving Family BusinessThis week on Who Said What?!, we sit down with media mogul, storyteller, and all-around powerhouse Amy Mowafi. She joins us for a no-holds-barred conversation about building MO4 Network, navigating the chaos of working with family, and the insane sacrifices behind success.In this episode, we dive into:
How Amy went from hustling her way into Enigma Magazine to leading one of Egypt’s most influential media companies
The reality of working with siblings—think Succession, but with an Arab touch
Why kids shouldn’t be on TikTok and the dark side of social media
The mental...2025-02-191h 05Who said what? With Heba and NiraValentine’s Day Roast - Nira in the Hot Seat!It’s Valentine’s Day, and you know what that means… love is in the air! Or at least it is for some people. In this special episode, Heba puts Nira in the hot seat, grilling her on all things dating, relationships, and why she might just be too good at ignoring red flags. From cringy love poems to ghosting vs. awkward second dates, we get the inside scoop on Nira’s love life, her ultimate relationship advice, and her hilarious take on modern romance. Buckle up for some brutal honesty, relatable dating fails, and a whole lot of laughs.2025-02-1225 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraRamadan, Ozempic & Fitness Myths - with Mohamed EidWhat happens when an engineer leaves corporate life to follow his passion for coaching? You get Mohamed Eid—the founder of Elevate, a gym built for people who actually need help training, whether recovering from injuries or looking for a smarter approach to fitness.In this episode, Eid shares his journey from engineering to coaching, how his mother encouraged him to take the leap, and why he’s obsessed with helping people get stronger (not just shredded). He also dives into the biggest fitness myths, from intermittent fasting to Ozempic, and why women’s bodies...2025-02-051h 09Who said what? With Heba and NiraSwipe Right, Think Twice: Dating in the Modern WorldIn this episode of Who Said What?!, Heba and Nira dive deep into the messy, hilarious, and sometimes frustrating world of dating apps. From the stark differences in how men and women perceive online dating to personal stories of Tinder escapades and blind dates gone wrong, they leave no stone unturned. They discuss why it’s so hard to meet people, the pros and cons of digital love, and the rise of shallow connections. Whether it’s married men acting single, the eternal debate of looks vs. money, or the newfound confidence of older women in the dating game, this...2025-01-2940 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraPodcasting with Nour Hassan: Radical, Real, and RebrandedWe’re thrilled to kick off Season 3 of Who Said What?! with an exciting episode featuring Nour Hassan, the creative mind behind the newly rebranded The Curation Pod (formerly known as The Radical Contemporary). Nour opens up about her journey as a podcaster and entrepreneur, reflecting on the challenges of staying true to herself in a world dominated by societal expectations and the pressures of social media.In this episode, Nour shares the inspiration behind rebranding her podcast and what The Curation truly represents. She discusses her take on her "IT girl" video that went viral, the se...2025-01-2255 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraStar power with Tamer Hagras: funny, fearless and full of wisdomThis week on Who Said What?!, we sit down with the charismatic and talented Tamer Hagras, a close friend and one of Egypt’s most beloved stars. In this candid conversation, Tamer reflects on his fascinating journey—from his start in modeling to landing a lead role early in his acting career. He shares what it was like working with legends like Adel Emam, how his upbringing shaped his acting in Arabic, and his evolving views on Egypt’s film industry.We also dive into his personal life: the joys and challenges of marriage, his thoughts on parent...2024-12-251h 08
The Curation by Nour HassanHeba Shunbo: He's Just Not That Into YouHeba Shunbo is an entrepreneur, interior designer, author, podcast host and so much more. Heba along with her sisters founded The Four Fat Ladies, and exited the company after 10 years, in parallel Heba navigated becoming a mother at 40, writing her tell all book “Mommy’ Happy Hour”, and her soaring interior design career. Heba with her sister Nira Shunbo host the "Who Said What Podcast" a hilariously unfiltered show on the realities of dating, family, sisterhood and everything else in between.This episode is packed with funny anecdotes, wise words of wisdom and unapologetic truths from someone who’s lived...2024-12-1956 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk. New Year Resolutions, Love 'em or Leave 'em?In this animated episode, Heba and Nira dive headfirst into the great debate on New Year’s resolutions. Heba loves them; Nira can’t stand them. They explore whether resolutions are overrated, why they spark change for some, and the evolution of goals over the years. From classic fitness resolutions to emotional, spiritual, and minimalist goals like decluttering and giving back, they tackle it all. Plus, they share their own personal resolutions and debate: home workouts vs. the gym. Start the year with a bang—or maybe without a resolution at all!Follow us for mo...2024-12-1830 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraHoliday Magic with Fadia. Thanksgiving & Christmas failsIn this festive and heartfelt episode, Heba and Nira sit down with their mom, Fadia, to talk all things holidays. From baking memories and evolving traditions to the influence of social media, Fadia reflects on the simplicity of the past and how nothing in life is constant.The trio shares laughs over Thanksgiving in Egypt, dreams up ideal Christmas vacations, and debates which traditions they’d cancel. Fadia also spills her hosting secrets, sharing why it’s more about connection than perfection. With humor, warmth, and a touch of nostalgia, this episode is the perf...2024-12-1142 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk. Surviving The HolidaysGet ready for some holiday fun and laughter! In this episode, we dive into everything that makes the holiday season both magical and stressful. From our Thanksgiving traditions and awkward Christmas party stories to some cringey gift receiving moments. We talk about the ups and downs of this time of year, tips for avoiding embarrassing social moments, and how to navigate the holiday season. Plus, we share sanity-saving advice for navigating the chaos. Whether you love or hate the holidays, this episode is all about the nostalgic and fun moments during this chaotic time of year.2024-12-0431 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraBreaking Ads. The Creative Journey of an Advertising ProIn this episode, we sit down with Ali Ali, the award-winning Egyptian-born filmmaker and creative director behind some of the most iconic ads in recent history—including the viral sensation Never Say No to Panda. Ali takes us on a journey through his fascinating career, from his early days as an art director at Leo Burnett to becoming one of the top 10 most awarded film directors in the world.We explore the full story behind the Panda ad, his creative process, and the challenges of working in an industry that can be both inspiring an...2024-11-2758 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk - Menopause and All Its Surprises . The Unspoken TransitionIn this episode of Who Said What?, we dive into the rollercoaster ride of perimenopause and menopause—often dubbed the twin sister of puberty. Join us as we laugh, vent, and get real about the crazy changes our bodies go through during this natural phase of life. We open up about our own experiences, and explore the wild emotional swings, physical symptoms, and even the unexpected sense of liberation that menopause can bring. From obsessing over every symptom to stressing about aging, we unpack it all. Plus, we dig into cultural taboos around menopause, and why Egyptian men and men...2024-11-2025 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraAdapting, Aging, and the Dating Game: A Take on Life's Transitions with Dina El KhachabIn this candid episode of Who Said What? With Heba & Nira, we sit down with the dynamic Dina El Khachab – co-founder of Eklego Design an award-winning Cairo-based architecture, interior, and furniture design firm – to explore the nuances of partnership, adaptation, and aging gracefully. Dina opens up about her transition from Canada to Egypt, sharing how cultural differences reshaped her perspective on time, fun, and connection. Naturally, we talk about the dating scene in Egypt, how expectations shift with age, and the impact of societal pressures on relationships and family planning. From perimenopause symptoms to the obsession with youth, Botox & fill...2024-11-1559 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraAdapting, Aging, and the Dating Game: A Take on Life's Transitions with Dina El KhachabIn this candid episode, we sit down with the dynamic Dina El Khachab – co-founder of Eklego Design an award-winning Cairo-based architecture, interior, and furniture design firm – to explore the nuances of partnership, adaptation, and aging gracefully. Dina opens up about her transition from Canada to Egypt, sharing how cultural differences reshaped her perspective on time, fun, and connection. Naturally, we talk about the dating scene in Egypt, how expectations shift with age, and the impact of societal pressures on relationships and family planning. From perimenopause symptoms to the obsession with youth, Botox & fillers, we tackle the insecurities many women face...2024-11-1359 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk - Founding The Four Fat Ladies, Our Untold StoryIn this episode, Heba and Nira dive deep into the journey of their former business venture, The Four Fat Ladies bakery – TFFL – which they launched from their shared passion for cooking. From the early days to the hurdles of scaling up, they share the highs, the hard truths, and the valuable lessons learned. What started as a dream became an intense lesson in business, family, and resilience. Together, they discuss the challenges of balancing sisterhood and business, their very different approaches to decision-making, and the impact of unforeseen challenges like COVID-19. Hear their unfiltered take on what it means to s...2024-11-0629 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraThe Business of Social Media with Ahmed NaguibIn this exciting episode, we welcome an old friend who was one of the pioneers of social media in Egypt. Starting his journey at a young age, he has navigated the ever-evolving landscape of digital platforms and built an impressive career before even completing college.Join us as we dive into his inspiring story, exploring his intelligence, ambition, and humble approach to success. He shares valuable insights and practical advice for newcomers entering the social media market, discussing the significant changes he's witnessed over the years.Whether you’re an...2024-10-301h 18Who said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk - Diddy Really Do It? The Power of FameIn this compelling episode, Heba and Nira dive deep into the complex world of fame and its impact on both personal and professional lives. We explore the recent allegations against Sean "Diddy" Combs and examine how these revelations reflect broader issues within Hollywood, and people in power. Join us as we discuss the seductive allure of fame, the responsibility that comes with it, and the disturbing patterns emerging among several high-profile men in the industry. We share our thoughts on the societal implications of these cases and the conversations they provoke about power, accountability, and the culture of celebrity.2024-10-2324 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraThe Power of Resilience: Insights from a PR ProIn this episode, we sit down with our good friend, Maha Abouelenein, a communications PR executive whose impressive roster of clients reads like a who's who of industry leaders. With a career marked by bold turns and strategic pivots, Maha embodies the spirit of resilience, consistently returning to the spotlight bigger and stronger than before.We dive into her newly launched book, "7 Rules of Self-Reliance," where she shares her key insights on building a successful career. She emphasizes the invaluable asset of leveraging relationships, the importance of hard work, and the power of staying true to oneself...2024-10-1657 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSister Talk - Summer RecapWelcome to Season 2 of our podcast! In this episode, we’re reflecting on our summer experiences—sharing our highlights, funny mishaps, and everything in between. Join us for our chaotic and sisterly banter as we kick off another season of Who Said What?! it’s all about everything and nothing at all!2024-10-0922 min
Who said what? With Heba and NiraSeason One, It's a Wrap !Join us for our Season 1 finale, as we look back on this super fun ride we’ve embarked on together. From some of our behind-the-scenes moments; to our favorite episodes; to a sneak peek for what we have in store for Season 2! We are gearing up for even more fun and interesting topics and exciting guests after the summer break, stay tuned! Summer plans anyone?2024-06-1213 min
Who said what? With Heba and NiraFashion Talk with Clair SeffeenIn this episode, Clair Seffeen talks to us about her long-standing career in the fashion industry, how she started off in Dubai for 10 years before moving to Egypt; and how the fashion industry in Egypt has come a long way since she moved here. She founded Design Narratives, a platform to help new and already-established entrepreneurs in the fahsion industry to develop their concept and branding and to avoid the pitfalls that many new brands encounter. She is also Managing Director of Story, a local concept store, a store that focuses on Egyptian brands, for which she personally curates ev...2024-06-051h 01Who said what? With Heba and NiraTinseltown gossip and more.Heba and Nira dive headfirst into celebrity gossip, the saga that is Ben Affleck and jLo and the rumors surrounding their marriage these days. Get ready to indulge in the guilty pleasure of celebrity gossip with us. But it's not all about the A-listers! We also share words of wisdom imparted by Jerry Seinfeld - “when did people get so fixated on money”. And Nira shares with us some of her favorite movies that inspire her.2024-05-2936 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraQuestions & AnswersHeba and Nira select some of the top questions they’ve received from listeners and answer them. We really enjoyed hearing from you, and answered the questions as best we could, genuinely, and from the heart. We would love to hear everyone’s feedback. And please keep those questions coming.2024-05-2235 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraVegas versus Dubai. Sin City or Bling City?Nira talks about her trip to Vegas and compares it to Dubai. Heba hasn’t been to Vegas, but talks about her love for Dubai and the warm fuzzy feelings she gets from visiting the city every once in a while. And of course, it would be unlike them if they didn’t go off on a tangent, and speak about nails and busted toes? Hmmm.. what’s that all about?2024-05-1533 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraAging Gracefully in Your 40s. To Botox or Not to Botox?This is a controversial topic for Nira and Heba, they are women in their forties and are aware that so many women their age and younger get cosmetic enhancements, yet they prefer to age naturally. They discuss the pros and cons and don’t shy away from sharing their personal opinions. Nira is completely ok with aging naturally, yet Heba is insecure about it, especially given her status as a mother of “advanced age”. However they both agree that they prefer to age gracefully, or perhaps one of them would be willing to try something? 2024-05-0834 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraCairo Cosmopolitans: a Toast to Sex & the City. Part Two.Our conversation with Jeneen continues, and we talk about marriage, relationships and “the secret sauce” to keeping it alive and kicking.. The secret is there is no secret. We talk about how the dating scene has evolved over the years and how Nira and Jeneen have themselves shifted as their self-awareness has grown and how that has affected what they look for in a partner/companion/boyfriend. 2024-05-0143 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraCairo Cosmopolitans: a Toast to Sex & the City. Part One.“I revealed too much too soon, I was emotionally slutty”, Carrie from Sex & The City’s quote pretty much sums up the theme of our conversation with Jeneen. We spoke about everyone and everything, and I have to say we were very comfortable airing out our dirty laundry. The men, the dates, the disasters oh my! To be continued.2024-04-2456 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraI am special because I’m the youngest… I am a rebel because I’m the middle child.. I am the boss of you because I’m oldest…According to Austrian psychiatrist Alfred Adler, birth order does in fact affect your personality. Firstborns are usually overachievers, tend to be CEOs, and have higher IQs. The middle child tends to be more rebellious and a people pleaser, while the youngest ones are more likely to be risk takers and without a care in the world. Nira and Heba discuss how birth order has in fact shaped their characters and relate closely to what Adler theorized. And naturally, during their conversation, they reveal too much information about each other and their own experiences growing up as three sisters. 2024-04-1737 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraHappy Eid Everyone. Our Personal Recap of Ramadan :)So how did it go? Did we lose or gain weight during Ramadan.. Which shows did everyone watch, which ones were good? And of course it wouldn’t be complete if we didn’t talk about food and Ramadan desserts.. Weigh in on Heba and Nira’s thoughts of Ramadan this year. 2024-04-1033 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraTravel plans anyone? Who cares.. more interesting and funny surprises revealed.What starts off as a boring topic of travel, favorite destinations, and potential places to go after Ramadan, ends up in a whole lot of amusing and at times aimless banter between Heba and Nira. And at certain moments, it gets a little tense between them, shocker! Keep listening, it gets more amusing by the minute, and someone finally comes out of the spliff smoking closet.. oops, did I ruin it?2024-04-0334 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraPart Two with Aly El Etriby. Navigating the dating scene today in the Middle EastPart Two with Aly El Etriby. On this episode, Heba and Nira discuss with Aly their favorite topic – relationships. We discuss relationships in this part of the world; what it’s like dating nowadays; the expectations we have; the traditions we have to navigate; and how relationships and dating have shifted over the past few decades in Egypt and the Middle East.2024-03-2736 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraMeet Aly El Etriby. You’ve Got a Friend in Me.Part One. After working with Aly for a few years at The Four Fat Ladies, Nira and I knew that long after leaving the company, we found a life long friend in Aly. We sit with Aly and take a deep dive into his entire life in one long sitting. No filters, we go from topic to topic, first discussing Ramadan and the foods we crave; weight loss; to living it up in your 30s and partying with friends.2024-03-2040 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraHappy Ramadan EveryoneWhat do you look forward to most in Ramadan? And least .. Heba and Nira ramble on about what Ramadan means to them, and of course as usual, they take a trip down memory lane. 2024-03-1334 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraSo, Nira... What Happened on Valentine’s Day? Has The Curse Been Lifted?Recap of Valentine’s Day – is Nira still in a relationship? Or is she single again? The suspense is killing Heba.. And based on many of our listeners’ feedback, they are curious to know too.. Hence, we decided to dedicate this episode to an update on Nira’s special Valentine. Was it … or wasn’t it?2024-03-0633 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraMeet Omar Shabrawy. From corporate to food blogger.We loved having Omar Shabrawy as our first guest on Who Said What?! Like us, his passion is food. He loves to travel and we take a little journey into his transition from corporate life to food blogging. What comes across strongest is his passion for life. Omar is honest, genuine and easy to connect with – just the kinda guest we love to meet, he fit right into our sister banter as we go from one topic to another.2024-02-2859 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraNira and Heba's Top 10 Favorite Movies of All TimeNira and Heba go through their list of favorite movies and reminisce the past, and quote the best lines of all time. Well, in fact Heba is the one to quote the best movie of all time, as for Nira, she steals the show with her impressive knowledge and long standing love relationship with movies. And of course, it's no surprise they have a hard time keeping their list down to 10 movies each. 2024-02-2136 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraValentine's Day - Dead or Alive?Are there still any romantics out there? Tune into Heba and Nira’s opinions about this highly controversial day. Nira, the ultimate realist and Heba, the hopeless romantic.2024-02-1441 minWho said what? With Heba and NiraMeet the sisters - Heba and Nira ShunboHeba and Nira are sisters but couldn't be more different, yet they get each other.. They talk about why and when they decided to do this podcast together. They digress, and have conflicting opinions, not to worry, it's what they do best. 2024-02-1324 min