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We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 80: Bonus! Helen and Liz in MunichWe're in Munich, and we have updates! Goldhorn, ShipGoo001, and a lack of space algae. Plus, a surprise for Helen about the summer reruns. Also, Liz edited this episode; don't blame Zach.2025-07-2526 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveSummer Rerun: A Violent Suitcase-Throwing Machine (Episode 66) SUMMER RERUN: Helen and Liz talk with author Mallory Marlowe about her 2024 paranormal romance, Love and Other Conspiracies, along with "War of the Coprophages," a demonic horse statue, unsettling candy bar analogies, and jazz hands. And, yes, Liz continues talking about "Muskrat Love."2025-07-181h 01We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveSummer Rerun: Liz Repeatedly Screams (Episode 45)SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen very briefly discuss "Fearful Symmetry," but mostly it's time to talk about "Agent of Chaos," the young adult novel about a teenage Mulder, which came out in 2017. Also, recommendations for shorts, bone arrows, and a video game Liz is NOT okay with.2025-07-0456 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveSummer Rerun: Chicago! (Episode 55)SUMMER RERUN: Helen and Liz hit the road! A trip to the famously haunted Drake Hotel in Chicago involves the typical nonsense, including blocking the closet door with a chair-ironing-board-shelf-cushion combo, deciding who we'd most like to be haunted by, and Liz swearing at Chicago traffic.2025-06-2059 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveSummer Rerun: Where's Nebraska? (Episode 39) SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Aubrey," the Mysterious Ghost, werewolf lights, bone identification, and the one person/mouse allowed to call someone "Little Sister." Plus, some struggles with geography.2025-06-061h 05We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveSummer Rerun: The Applefest Conspiracy (Episode 30)SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen discuss dubious chemistry, a town chock full of blood drives, the "boss," plus Helen's plumber shows up.2025-05-2346 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 79: The Plural of LemurLiz and Helen are live! We livestreamed our discussion of "Talitha Cumi," so you'll get to hear listener questions and opinions throughout the episode, along with our discussion of secret neighborhood tunnels, animal mascots, and glueing bones together. Plus, 1.5 people shame Helen about movies.Also, oops, let the record show that it was Liz's friend Cori who came up with the idea of an Empire Records live experience, not her friend Sandi.2025-05-091h 13We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 78: Oh crap, it's happening again.Helen and Liz discuss "Wetwired," along with a new Loch Ness Monster theory, horse milk, our declining ability to speak, and the link between deceased senator Ted Stevens and Whitby, England. Plus, JOIN US LIVE, Tuesday, May 6, at 2pm Central, for the recording of our Season 3 finale. We'll be discussing "Talitha Cumi," answering questions, and surely going off on plenty of tangents. Grab the link for the livestream in our Instagram bio, or just copy and paste this: https://youtube.com/live/7Y5wKgXN8sY?feature=share2025-05-0255 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 77: The PhlebotobuddyLiz and Helen discuss "Quagmire," along with abnormally nice dentists, too many alligators, the green cylinder, and 50 pounds of rice. 2025-04-1855 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 76: Your Favorite Bodily SystemHelen and Liz discuss "Avatar," along with other media recommendations, inspirational tattoos, and an update on Helen's nails. Plus, where's Smoking Man?2025-04-1149 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 75: Smashing WatermelonsHelen and Liz discuss "Jose Chung's From Outer Space," along with hitting each other with sticks, eating avocados recreationally, and the Feynman-Frey connection. Plus, Helen learns the truth about Communion. My meter just jumped two points!2025-03-2151 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 74: Helen doesn't feel specialLiz and Helen discuss "Hell Money," along with blood types, the link between James Hong and Buster Bluth, and the point at which being burned alive in a crematorium becomes a public health crisis. Plus, Liz screws up a name in a way she'll never live down.2025-03-1450 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 73: The Gravel PotluckHelen and Liz discuss "Teso dos Bichos," along with SimCity, Helen's ideal rave, and being primed for capybaras.2025-03-0743 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 72: Liz's Shameless Cash GrabLiz talks about her debut novel, Mighty Millie Novak. Have you bought it yet? Go on, buy it.2025-02-2810 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 71: The HypnotizerLiz and Helen discuss "Pusher," along with unicorn haircuts, dog slumber parties, samurai, and a fascinating study involving psychics and schizophrenics.2025-02-2151 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 70: Big Cesar Chavez VibesHelen and Liz discuss "Apocrypha," along with boy archeologists, glowing people to death, filling Mulder and Scully with concrete, and the build-up to talking about MRI machines. 2025-02-1443 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 69: Salvage Brokers Broker SalvageLiz and Helen discuss "Piper Maru," along with goblin mode, flashlight tag, and the return of the series' most punchable character. 2025-02-0937 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 68: Very Poorly LitHelen and Liz discuss "Grotesque," along with the hole in Helen's floor, the reason for gargoyles, and the art class medium their mother would never allow.2025-01-3138 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 67: Things That Die in the WoodsLiz and Helen discuss "Syzygy," along with dog skeletons, Helen's lingering Elijah Wood issue, and a terrible combination of the Monty Hall and the trolley problems. 2025-01-2456 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveREVIEW DAY: Helen Werner, Slightly PsychicReview Day! We're still taking a break for the holidays, so today you can listen to our old episode about X-Files season 1 episode 23, "Roland." Plus you can enjoy some brand-new audio of Liz mangling the very few sentences she has to read during the intro.2025-01-1037 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveREVIEW DAY: Is Robert Smith the Jersey Devil?Liz is sick, and it's the week of New Year's Day, so we're taking a break from recording this week, and instead sharing one of our first episodes. In this one, Helen talks Liz through X-Files season 1 episode 5, "The Jersey Devil," and Liz is nearly destroyed by laughter when shown a key drawing from the episode.2025-01-0340 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 66: A Violent Suitcase-throwing MachineHelen and Liz talk with author Mallory Marlowe about her 2024 paranormal romance, Love and Other Conspiracies, along with "War of the Coprophages," a demonic horse statue, unsettling candy bar analogies, and jazz hands. And, yes, Liz continues talking about "Muskrat Love." 2024-12-2859 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 65: God Doesn't Square NumbersLiz and Helen discuss "Revelations," along with Helen's childhood fear of stigmata, Liz's obsession with Jason Mantzoukas, the Crunchers, science history, and vending-machine egg salad sandwiches. 2024-12-2159 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 64: Stupid Little EarsHelen and Liz discuss "731," along with the Rolling Stones, turquoise bacteria, Liz's shin, and Mr. Hansen and his disease research facility. Plus, of course, sea lions.2024-12-1355 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 63: Venmo HelenLiz and Helen discuss "Nisei," along with objet d'arts, the chicken dance, and our upcoming episode with guest star Mallory Marlowe (author of Love and Other Conspiracies)! Plus, more about Muskrat Love. Helen's Venmo is @Helen-Werner88. (The 88 is solely because she was born in 1988.)2024-12-061h 01We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 62: Big, Cold Bucket of UrineHelen and Liz discuss "Oubliette," along with physics riddles, terrible presentations, the disappearing kayaker, and, obviously, the aforementioned bucket.2024-11-2952 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveREVIEW DAY: The Worst Capri-SunIt’s a review day, class! We're taking a one-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our discussion of the Season Two episode "Three." (This is the terrible, terrible vampire episode. It's basically Liz ranting for an hour straight.)2024-11-221h 15We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 61: "Is it not possible...?"Liz and Helen discuss "The Walk," along with our favorite horror movies, haunted televisions Part Two, and Liz's attempt to astrally project.2024-11-151h 05We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 60: Muskrat LoveHelen and Liz discuss "2Shy." Plus, bad dates, bad screen names, and bad songs. And: snuggles?2024-11-081h 12We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 59: The AutopserLiz and Helen discuss "The List," along with their proposed "Jesus: The Revenge" action movie, the X-Files fake maggot budget, and the cutest dog in the world. Plus, find out if Liz can count to five!2024-11-0145 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 58: Uranus UnlimitedHelen and Liz discuss X-Files season 3 episode 4, "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose." They also talk about ways psychics have lied to them, people who are ghost-adjacent, and what your Zodiac sign says about your investment strategy.2024-10-2547 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 57: Lightning BoyLiz and Helen are back! Today they discuss X-Files Season 3 Episode 3, "DPO," along with the threat of coprnices, fly eyes, Helen's foray into Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and people they don't care for.2024-10-181h 12We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 56: Bottom ThirtiesOur season finale! Liz and Helen discuss "Paper Clip," plus they consider 'man vs bear' question, have fun with statistics in the Monty Hall problem, and recall a classic story of an old friend, a random family, and a tree that did not serve as a good hiding spot.2024-05-101h 07We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 55: Chicago! Helen and Liz hit the road! A trip to the famously haunted Drake Hotel in Chicago involves the typical nonsense, including blocking the closet door with a chair-ironing-board-shelf-cushion combo, deciding who we'd most like to be haunted by, and Liz swearing at Chicago traffic.2024-05-0358 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveREVIEW DAY: Listener QuestionsIt's a review day, class! We're taking a two-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our answers to listener questions from two years ago. (This is the origin of the idea of Liz hoping she could learn to dunk a basketball.) Also, submit your questions for us, for a future episode!2024-04-1956 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 54: Annoying White WomenHelen and Liz discuss "The Blessing Way," plus the Peewee Herman hypnosis experiment, inspirational posters, and the name Turtle.2024-04-1244 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 53: The Haunted PianoLiz and Helen discuss "Anasazi." Plus, some linguistics update, Louie the raccoon, the question Helen won't ask a friend's brother, and the reason Liz got married.2024-04-0549 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 52: Spongy Brain BadHelen and Liz discuss the X-Files episode "Our Town," along with talking yourself into fatal insomnia, sinister rock tumblers, and determining when it's safe to eat your friends. Plus, Helen's haunted hotel experience.2024-03-291h 04We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 51: The Brain SuckHelen and Liz discuss "Soft Light," plus unicorns made of dark matter, coatimundis ruining the vibe, and two separate occasions of drunk science education.2024-03-221h 03We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 50: Mars! 50th episode specialAll about Mars, with our guest Dr. Matt Siegler. Plus, space cocktails, the best type of fake dirt, and Vegemite. 2024-03-151h 10We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 49: Armadillo AdviceLiz and Helen discuss "F. Emasculata," an episode perfect for someone who studied parasitology and epidemiology. Alas, Liz did not study those things.2024-03-0840 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 48: Name Helen's DogHelen and Liz discuss "The Calusari," and Helen is filled with righteous anger. Plus, the search for gluten-free samosas, why the TSA stops Helen and not Liz, and the Fluke Man's identity.2024-03-011h 06We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 47: I wish it was the Fiji MermaidLiz and Helen discuss "Humbug," along with Sweatin' to the Oldies, geeks, when a bookshelf is a pantry, and the correct number of people to know who want to hang from hooks. Plus, Liz tries to sell you something. You should listen to her.2024-02-231h 02We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 46: Follow the RatsHelen and Liz discuss "Død Kalm," along with time-traveling bison, black holes, Malaysia Flight 370, and Liz's theory regarding who, exactly, is chewing through their friend's car's wiring.2024-02-161h 03We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 45: Liz Repeatedly ScreamsLiz and Helen very briefly discuss "Fearful Symmetry," but mostly it's time to talk about "Agent of Chaos," the young adult novel about a teenage Mulder, which came out in 2017. Also, recommendations for shorts, bone arrows, and a video game Liz is NOT okay with.2024-02-1055 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 44: An Increasing Number of Killer ClownsHelen and Liz discuss "End Game," along with Florida alien sightings, clone science, snitching, and Liz's habit of cutting up little pieces of paper. Plus, Helen fails to understand Amazon's on-screen options. 2024-02-0255 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 43: The House With No CornersLiz and Helen discuss "Colony," spiritualists, anime, being confused about geography (as usual), and that it does, indeed, hurt to be hit by a car. Plus, an eerie woodland listener story!2024-01-261h 01We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 42: Graverobbing is Uncool!Helen and Liz discuss the episode "Fresh Bones," along with Haitian history, puffer fish, the Highgate Vampire, somersault lessons, and Liz's lack of household maintenance. Also, Dolls! Dolls! Dolls! 2024-01-191h 08We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 41: Liz, You Weren't There! Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Die Hand Die Verletzt," along with squirrel nests, false memories, and Dee Snider. Plus, Liz makes Helen play a game.2024-01-0556 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 40: The Crown Prince of RussiaHelen and Liz discuss "Irresistible," and the show's scariest villain. Also, Taskmaster for dogs, romantasy, the weird noise in Helen's office, The Gift of Fear, and Peak Yogurt.2023-12-291h 05We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 39: Where's Nebraska?Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Aubrey," the Mysterious Ghost, werewolf lights, bone identification, and the one person/mouse allowed to call someone "Little Sister." Plus, some struggles with geography.2023-12-221h 05We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 38: A PhD in PotatoesHelen and Liz discuss "Excelsis Dei," teaching philosophies, the best taco filling, and some brand-new X-Files Twitter gossip. Plus, look, Liz really can't pronounce "Dei" and she knows this.2023-12-151h 04We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 37: Helen Will Save Us AllHelen and Liz discuss the mind-blowing episode "Red Museum," the virtues of not eating meat, Helen's terrifying flight experience, and synonyms for "museum." Plus, why does Scully recognize that man? Why??? 2023-12-0852 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 36: Keep It GooseAfter a week off, Helen and Liz discuss "Firewalker," aka Season 1's "Ice" but a few hundred degrees warmer. Baseball-bat-sized asparagus kill people, Helen extolls the virtues of spring-loaded hair clips, Liz forgets the existence of hallucinogenic mushrooms, and, once again, both sisters decry Mulder's terrible judgement. Plus, geese! This podcast mentions geese. Got it, algorithm?2023-12-0134 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 35: The Lightning RoundHelen and Liz discuss the episode "One Breath." Scully is back, Liz hates a dental hygienist, and Helen masters the lightning round. Plus, was that guy Liz briefly dated in a coma in her living room?2023-11-1742 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 34: The Worst Capri-SunLiz and Helen discuss the X-Files episode "3," overly dramatic goths, the film Basic Instinct, and Liz's blood phobia. Plus, leprechauns. Twice.2023-11-101h 14We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 33: Helen's Least Favorite WordHelen and Liz discuss "Ascension," the continuation of the story started in "Duane Barry." Also, Galveston, Texas, is clearly "chock full of ghosts." And have they uncovered further proof their mother might be psychic?2023-11-0355 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 32: Bagpipes Can Mean AnythingHelen and Liz discuss a truly scary hostage-negotiation episode, consider the threat posed by various musical instruments, and appreciate Mulder in a speedo for no reason. Plus, Helen quickly puts to rest Liz's "sentient liquids" theory.2023-10-271h 02We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 31: Fry Talk with Helen and LizLiz and Helen discuss the appearance of Krycek, giant novelty stomachs, a Dwight Schrute nightmare, and Liz's capacity for murder. And as promised, here's Liz's 2010 short story that still scares Helen: https://tinyurl.com/49da7ydt2023-10-201h 06We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 30: The Applefest ConspiracyLiz and Helen discuss dubious chemistry, a town chock full of blood drives, the "boss," plus Helen's plumber shows up.2023-10-1345 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 29: We Hate SeanFlatworm education, public pool concerns, and tattoos of your own name. Helen has a lot to teach Liz this week.2023-10-061h 13We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 28: Don't Tempt Me, FrodoWe're back! Season 2 begins! Mulder lives for Bach, Scully monologues during an autopsy, Helen's hair looks great, and is this actually a Lord of the Rings podcast?2023-09-291h 05We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 27: Goose-shaped GlasswareHelen and Liz watch the Season 1 finale, The Erlenmeyer Flask! A quality X-Files, really firing on all cylinders. They also discuss (at length!) how to describe actual erlenmeyer flasks.2022-10-071h 02We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 26: Helen Werner, Slightly PsychicRoland is not a great episode of the X-Files, but this was a pretty excellent episode of our podcast. Plus--find out about our psychic sister powers (or lack thereof).2022-09-3036 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 25: The FishtankLiz and Helen discuss Born Again. This is Liz's first time learning how to upload the podcast episode! She is very tired and can't think of anything clever to say.2022-09-2333 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 24: The Science Lab This week we're sharing the first episode of Helen's new podcast The Science Lab2022-09-1722 minVile and ViceVile and ViceBONUS EPISODE: JJ’s Cryptid Corner Episode 10 TripoderoHello Everyone! So Audi had technical difficulties this week. JJ and our Guests from We Want To Believe Podcast Helen Werner and Liz Holden could not heard properly on the recorded mp3 file. So instead please enjoy JJ's Cryptid Corner on the Tripodero. We do plan on rescheduling, so stay tuned for more!  2022-08-3016 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 23: The cheese man is bumming me outLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 21: Tombs2022-08-2639 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 22: Brain amoebaLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 20: Darkness Falls2022-08-1941 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 21: At least something got recordedLiz recaps the disaster that was the recording of Episode 21 and shares two spooky stories.2022-08-1211 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 20: We're back!Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 18: Miracle Man2022-08-0532 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 19: You down with EBE?Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 17: E.B.E2022-06-1740 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 18: Horse feetLiz, Helen, and a special guest star discuss Season 1 Episode 16: Young at Heart. 2022-06-101h 04We Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveBonus: Do we believe?Liz and Helen discuss a recent hearing by the US government regarding the presence of alien life.2022-06-0345 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 16: How badly do you want that ring?Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 15: Lazarus2022-05-2750 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 15: Krycek's origin storyLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 14: Genderbender2022-05-2043 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 14: Worms: Fact or Fiction?Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 13: Beyond the Sea2022-05-1351 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 13: AristocracyLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 12: Fire2022-05-0657 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 12: It's all coming back to meLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 11: Eve2022-04-2950 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 11: Funeral ClownsLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 10: Fallen Angel2022-04-2341 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 10: Stats HelmetLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 9: Space2022-04-1540 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 9: ArchipelagoLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 8: Ice2022-04-0846 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveBONUS EPISODE: Helen and Liz answer listener questionsHelen and Liz answer listener questions2022-04-0156 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 7 - Liz and Helen have nothing to sayLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 7: Ghost in the Machine2022-04-0128 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 6: Property Brothers Fan FicLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 6: Shadows2022-03-2555 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 5: Is Robert Smith the Jersey Devil?Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 5: Jersey Devil2022-03-1839 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 4: Chuck Berry in SpaceLiz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 4: Conduit2022-03-1158 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 3 - Santa for bad kidsHelen and Liz discuss Season 1 Episode 3: Squeeze2022-03-0439 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 2 - Time is the Real X-FilesHelen and Liz discuss Season 1 Episode 2: Deep Throat2022-02-2548 minWe Want To BelieveWe Want To BelieveEpisode 1 - Orangutan or alien?Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 1: Pilot2022-02-1745 min