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We Want To Believe
Episode 80: Bonus! Helen and Liz in Munich
We're in Munich, and we have updates! Goldhorn, ShipGoo001, and a lack of space algae. Plus, a surprise for Helen about the summer reruns. Also, Liz edited this episode; don't blame Zach.
2025-07-25
26 min
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Summer Rerun: A Violent Suitcase-Throwing Machine (Episode 66)
SUMMER RERUN: Helen and Liz talk with author Mallory Marlowe about her 2024 paranormal romance, Love and Other Conspiracies, along with "War of the Coprophages," a demonic horse statue, unsettling candy bar analogies, and jazz hands. And, yes, Liz continues talking about "Muskrat Love."
2025-07-18
1h 01
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Summer Rerun: Liz Repeatedly Screams (Episode 45)
SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen very briefly discuss "Fearful Symmetry," but mostly it's time to talk about "Agent of Chaos," the young adult novel about a teenage Mulder, which came out in 2017. Also, recommendations for shorts, bone arrows, and a video game Liz is NOT okay with.
2025-07-04
56 min
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Summer Rerun: Chicago! (Episode 55)
SUMMER RERUN: Helen and Liz hit the road! A trip to the famously haunted Drake Hotel in Chicago involves the typical nonsense, including blocking the closet door with a chair-ironing-board-shelf-cushion combo, deciding who we'd most like to be haunted by, and Liz swearing at Chicago traffic.
2025-06-20
59 min
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Summer Rerun: Where's Nebraska? (Episode 39)
SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Aubrey," the Mysterious Ghost, werewolf lights, bone identification, and the one person/mouse allowed to call someone "Little Sister." Plus, some struggles with geography.
2025-06-06
1h 05
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Summer Rerun: The Applefest Conspiracy (Episode 30)
SUMMER RERUN: Liz and Helen discuss dubious chemistry, a town chock full of blood drives, the "boss," plus Helen's plumber shows up.
2025-05-23
46 min
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Episode 79: The Plural of Lemur
Liz and Helen are live! We livestreamed our discussion of "Talitha Cumi," so you'll get to hear listener questions and opinions throughout the episode, along with our discussion of secret neighborhood tunnels, animal mascots, and glueing bones together. Plus, 1.5 people shame Helen about movies.Also, oops, let the record show that it was Liz's friend Cori who came up with the idea of an Empire Records live experience, not her friend Sandi.
2025-05-09
1h 13
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Episode 78: Oh crap, it's happening again.
Helen and Liz discuss "Wetwired," along with a new Loch Ness Monster theory, horse milk, our declining ability to speak, and the link between deceased senator Ted Stevens and Whitby, England. Plus, JOIN US LIVE, Tuesday, May 6, at 2pm Central, for the recording of our Season 3 finale. We'll be discussing "Talitha Cumi," answering questions, and surely going off on plenty of tangents. Grab the link for the livestream in our Instagram bio, or just copy and paste this: https://youtube.com/live/7Y5wKgXN8sY?feature=share
2025-05-02
55 min
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Episode 77: The Phlebotobuddy
Liz and Helen discuss "Quagmire," along with abnormally nice dentists, too many alligators, the green cylinder, and 50 pounds of rice.
2025-04-18
55 min
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Episode 76: Your Favorite Bodily System
Helen and Liz discuss "Avatar," along with other media recommendations, inspirational tattoos, and an update on Helen's nails. Plus, where's Smoking Man?
2025-04-11
49 min
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Episode 75: Smashing Watermelons
Helen and Liz discuss "Jose Chung's From Outer Space," along with hitting each other with sticks, eating avocados recreationally, and the Feynman-Frey connection. Plus, Helen learns the truth about Communion. My meter just jumped two points!
2025-03-21
51 min
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Episode 74: Helen doesn't feel special
Liz and Helen discuss "Hell Money," along with blood types, the link between James Hong and Buster Bluth, and the point at which being burned alive in a crematorium becomes a public health crisis. Plus, Liz screws up a name in a way she'll never live down.
2025-03-14
50 min
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Episode 73: The Gravel Potluck
Helen and Liz discuss "Teso dos Bichos," along with SimCity, Helen's ideal rave, and being primed for capybaras.
2025-03-07
43 min
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Episode 72: Liz's Shameless Cash Grab
Liz talks about her debut novel, Mighty Millie Novak. Have you bought it yet? Go on, buy it.
2025-02-28
10 min
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Episode 71: The Hypnotizer
Liz and Helen discuss "Pusher," along with unicorn haircuts, dog slumber parties, samurai, and a fascinating study involving psychics and schizophrenics.
2025-02-21
51 min
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Episode 70: Big Cesar Chavez Vibes
Helen and Liz discuss "Apocrypha," along with boy archeologists, glowing people to death, filling Mulder and Scully with concrete, and the build-up to talking about MRI machines.
2025-02-14
43 min
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Episode 69: Salvage Brokers Broker Salvage
Liz and Helen discuss "Piper Maru," along with goblin mode, flashlight tag, and the return of the series' most punchable character.
2025-02-09
37 min
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Episode 68: Very Poorly Lit
Helen and Liz discuss "Grotesque," along with the hole in Helen's floor, the reason for gargoyles, and the art class medium their mother would never allow.
2025-01-31
38 min
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Episode 67: Things That Die in the Woods
Liz and Helen discuss "Syzygy," along with dog skeletons, Helen's lingering Elijah Wood issue, and a terrible combination of the Monty Hall and the trolley problems.
2025-01-24
56 min
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REVIEW DAY: Helen Werner, Slightly Psychic
Review Day! We're still taking a break for the holidays, so today you can listen to our old episode about X-Files season 1 episode 23, "Roland." Plus you can enjoy some brand-new audio of Liz mangling the very few sentences she has to read during the intro.
2025-01-10
37 min
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REVIEW DAY: Is Robert Smith the Jersey Devil?
Liz is sick, and it's the week of New Year's Day, so we're taking a break from recording this week, and instead sharing one of our first episodes. In this one, Helen talks Liz through X-Files season 1 episode 5, "The Jersey Devil," and Liz is nearly destroyed by laughter when shown a key drawing from the episode.
2025-01-03
40 min
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Episode 66: A Violent Suitcase-throwing Machine
Helen and Liz talk with author Mallory Marlowe about her 2024 paranormal romance, Love and Other Conspiracies, along with "War of the Coprophages," a demonic horse statue, unsettling candy bar analogies, and jazz hands. And, yes, Liz continues talking about "Muskrat Love."
2024-12-28
59 min
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Episode 65: God Doesn't Square Numbers
Liz and Helen discuss "Revelations," along with Helen's childhood fear of stigmata, Liz's obsession with Jason Mantzoukas, the Crunchers, science history, and vending-machine egg salad sandwiches.
2024-12-21
59 min
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Episode 64: Stupid Little Ears
Helen and Liz discuss "731," along with the Rolling Stones, turquoise bacteria, Liz's shin, and Mr. Hansen and his disease research facility. Plus, of course, sea lions.
2024-12-13
55 min
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Episode 63: Venmo Helen
Liz and Helen discuss "Nisei," along with objet d'arts, the chicken dance, and our upcoming episode with guest star Mallory Marlowe (author of Love and Other Conspiracies)! Plus, more about Muskrat Love. Helen's Venmo is @Helen-Werner88. (The 88 is solely because she was born in 1988.)
2024-12-06
1h 01
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Episode 62: Big, Cold Bucket of Urine
Helen and Liz discuss "Oubliette," along with physics riddles, terrible presentations, the disappearing kayaker, and, obviously, the aforementioned bucket.
2024-11-29
52 min
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REVIEW DAY: The Worst Capri-Sun
It’s a review day, class! We're taking a one-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our discussion of the Season Two episode "Three." (This is the terrible, terrible vampire episode. It's basically Liz ranting for an hour straight.)
2024-11-22
1h 15
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Episode 61: "Is it not possible...?"
Liz and Helen discuss "The Walk," along with our favorite horror movies, haunted televisions Part Two, and Liz's attempt to astrally project.
2024-11-15
1h 05
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Episode 60: Muskrat Love
Helen and Liz discuss "2Shy." Plus, bad dates, bad screen names, and bad songs. And: snuggles?
2024-11-08
1h 12
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Episode 59: The Autopser
Liz and Helen discuss "The List," along with their proposed "Jesus: The Revenge" action movie, the X-Files fake maggot budget, and the cutest dog in the world. Plus, find out if Liz can count to five!
2024-11-01
45 min
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Episode 58: Uranus Unlimited
Helen and Liz discuss X-Files season 3 episode 4, "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose." They also talk about ways psychics have lied to them, people who are ghost-adjacent, and what your Zodiac sign says about your investment strategy.
2024-10-25
47 min
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Episode 57: Lightning Boy
Liz and Helen are back! Today they discuss X-Files Season 3 Episode 3, "DPO," along with the threat of coprnices, fly eyes, Helen's foray into Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and people they don't care for.
2024-10-18
1h 12
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Episode 56: Bottom Thirties
Our season finale! Liz and Helen discuss "Paper Clip," plus they consider 'man vs bear' question, have fun with statistics in the Monty Hall problem, and recall a classic story of an old friend, a random family, and a tree that did not serve as a good hiding spot.
2024-05-10
1h 07
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Episode 55: Chicago!
Helen and Liz hit the road! A trip to the famously haunted Drake Hotel in Chicago involves the typical nonsense, including blocking the closet door with a chair-ironing-board-shelf-cushion combo, deciding who we'd most like to be haunted by, and Liz swearing at Chicago traffic.
2024-05-03
58 min
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REVIEW DAY: Listener Questions
It's a review day, class! We're taking a two-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our answers to listener questions from two years ago. (This is the origin of the idea of Liz hoping she could learn to dunk a basketball.) Also, submit your questions for us, for a future episode!
2024-04-19
56 min
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Episode 54: Annoying White Women
Helen and Liz discuss "The Blessing Way," plus the Peewee Herman hypnosis experiment, inspirational posters, and the name Turtle.
2024-04-12
44 min
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Episode 53: The Haunted Piano
Liz and Helen discuss "Anasazi." Plus, some linguistics update, Louie the raccoon, the question Helen won't ask a friend's brother, and the reason Liz got married.
2024-04-05
49 min
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Episode 52: Spongy Brain Bad
Helen and Liz discuss the X-Files episode "Our Town," along with talking yourself into fatal insomnia, sinister rock tumblers, and determining when it's safe to eat your friends. Plus, Helen's haunted hotel experience.
2024-03-29
1h 04
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Episode 51: The Brain Suck
Helen and Liz discuss "Soft Light," plus unicorns made of dark matter, coatimundis ruining the vibe, and two separate occasions of drunk science education.
2024-03-22
1h 03
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Episode 50: Mars! 50th episode special
All about Mars, with our guest Dr. Matt Siegler. Plus, space cocktails, the best type of fake dirt, and Vegemite.
2024-03-15
1h 10
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Episode 49: Armadillo Advice
Liz and Helen discuss "F. Emasculata," an episode perfect for someone who studied parasitology and epidemiology. Alas, Liz did not study those things.
2024-03-08
40 min
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Episode 48: Name Helen's Dog
Helen and Liz discuss "The Calusari," and Helen is filled with righteous anger. Plus, the search for gluten-free samosas, why the TSA stops Helen and not Liz, and the Fluke Man's identity.
2024-03-01
1h 06
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Episode 47: I wish it was the Fiji Mermaid
Liz and Helen discuss "Humbug," along with Sweatin' to the Oldies, geeks, when a bookshelf is a pantry, and the correct number of people to know who want to hang from hooks. Plus, Liz tries to sell you something. You should listen to her.
2024-02-23
1h 02
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Episode 46: Follow the Rats
Helen and Liz discuss "Død Kalm," along with time-traveling bison, black holes, Malaysia Flight 370, and Liz's theory regarding who, exactly, is chewing through their friend's car's wiring.
2024-02-16
1h 03
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Episode 45: Liz Repeatedly Screams
Liz and Helen very briefly discuss "Fearful Symmetry," but mostly it's time to talk about "Agent of Chaos," the young adult novel about a teenage Mulder, which came out in 2017. Also, recommendations for shorts, bone arrows, and a video game Liz is NOT okay with.
2024-02-10
55 min
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Episode 44: An Increasing Number of Killer Clowns
Helen and Liz discuss "End Game," along with Florida alien sightings, clone science, snitching, and Liz's habit of cutting up little pieces of paper. Plus, Helen fails to understand Amazon's on-screen options.
2024-02-02
55 min
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Episode 43: The House With No Corners
Liz and Helen discuss "Colony," spiritualists, anime, being confused about geography (as usual), and that it does, indeed, hurt to be hit by a car. Plus, an eerie woodland listener story!
2024-01-26
1h 01
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Episode 42: Graverobbing is Uncool!
Helen and Liz discuss the episode "Fresh Bones," along with Haitian history, puffer fish, the Highgate Vampire, somersault lessons, and Liz's lack of household maintenance. Also, Dolls! Dolls! Dolls!
2024-01-19
1h 08
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Episode 41: Liz, You Weren't There!
Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Die Hand Die Verletzt," along with squirrel nests, false memories, and Dee Snider. Plus, Liz makes Helen play a game.
2024-01-05
56 min
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Episode 40: The Crown Prince of Russia
Helen and Liz discuss "Irresistible," and the show's scariest villain. Also, Taskmaster for dogs, romantasy, the weird noise in Helen's office, The Gift of Fear, and Peak Yogurt.
2023-12-29
1h 05
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Episode 39: Where's Nebraska?
Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Aubrey," the Mysterious Ghost, werewolf lights, bone identification, and the one person/mouse allowed to call someone "Little Sister." Plus, some struggles with geography.
2023-12-22
1h 05
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Episode 38: A PhD in Potatoes
Helen and Liz discuss "Excelsis Dei," teaching philosophies, the best taco filling, and some brand-new X-Files Twitter gossip. Plus, look, Liz really can't pronounce "Dei" and she knows this.
2023-12-15
1h 04
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Episode 37: Helen Will Save Us All
Helen and Liz discuss the mind-blowing episode "Red Museum," the virtues of not eating meat, Helen's terrifying flight experience, and synonyms for "museum." Plus, why does Scully recognize that man? Why???
2023-12-08
52 min
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Episode 36: Keep It Goose
After a week off, Helen and Liz discuss "Firewalker," aka Season 1's "Ice" but a few hundred degrees warmer. Baseball-bat-sized asparagus kill people, Helen extolls the virtues of spring-loaded hair clips, Liz forgets the existence of hallucinogenic mushrooms, and, once again, both sisters decry Mulder's terrible judgement. Plus, geese! This podcast mentions geese. Got it, algorithm?
2023-12-01
34 min
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Episode 35: The Lightning Round
Helen and Liz discuss the episode "One Breath." Scully is back, Liz hates a dental hygienist, and Helen masters the lightning round. Plus, was that guy Liz briefly dated in a coma in her living room?
2023-11-17
42 min
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Episode 34: The Worst Capri-Sun
Liz and Helen discuss the X-Files episode "3," overly dramatic goths, the film Basic Instinct, and Liz's blood phobia. Plus, leprechauns. Twice.
2023-11-10
1h 14
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Episode 33: Helen's Least Favorite Word
Helen and Liz discuss "Ascension," the continuation of the story started in "Duane Barry." Also, Galveston, Texas, is clearly "chock full of ghosts." And have they uncovered further proof their mother might be psychic?
2023-11-03
55 min
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Episode 32: Bagpipes Can Mean Anything
Helen and Liz discuss a truly scary hostage-negotiation episode, consider the threat posed by various musical instruments, and appreciate Mulder in a speedo for no reason. Plus, Helen quickly puts to rest Liz's "sentient liquids" theory.
2023-10-27
1h 02
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Episode 31: Fry Talk with Helen and Liz
Liz and Helen discuss the appearance of Krycek, giant novelty stomachs, a Dwight Schrute nightmare, and Liz's capacity for murder. And as promised, here's Liz's 2010 short story that still scares Helen: https://tinyurl.com/49da7ydt
2023-10-20
1h 06
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Episode 30: The Applefest Conspiracy
Liz and Helen discuss dubious chemistry, a town chock full of blood drives, the "boss," plus Helen's plumber shows up.
2023-10-13
45 min
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Episode 29: We Hate Sean
Flatworm education, public pool concerns, and tattoos of your own name. Helen has a lot to teach Liz this week.
2023-10-06
1h 13
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Episode 28: Don't Tempt Me, Frodo
We're back! Season 2 begins! Mulder lives for Bach, Scully monologues during an autopsy, Helen's hair looks great, and is this actually a Lord of the Rings podcast?
2023-09-29
1h 05
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Episode 27: Goose-shaped Glassware
Helen and Liz watch the Season 1 finale, The Erlenmeyer Flask! A quality X-Files, really firing on all cylinders. They also discuss (at length!) how to describe actual erlenmeyer flasks.
2022-10-07
1h 02
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Episode 26: Helen Werner, Slightly Psychic
Roland is not a great episode of the X-Files, but this was a pretty excellent episode of our podcast. Plus--find out about our psychic sister powers (or lack thereof).
2022-09-30
36 min
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Episode 25: The Fishtank
Liz and Helen discuss Born Again. This is Liz's first time learning how to upload the podcast episode! She is very tired and can't think of anything clever to say.
2022-09-23
33 min
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Episode 24: The Science Lab
This week we're sharing the first episode of Helen's new podcast The Science Lab
2022-09-17
22 min
Vile and Vice
BONUS EPISODE: JJ’s Cryptid Corner Episode 10 Tripodero
Hello Everyone! So Audi had technical difficulties this week. JJ and our Guests from We Want To Believe Podcast Helen Werner and Liz Holden could not heard properly on the recorded mp3 file. So instead please enjoy JJ's Cryptid Corner on the Tripodero. We do plan on rescheduling, so stay tuned for more!
2022-08-30
16 min
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Episode 23: The cheese man is bumming me out
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 21: Tombs
2022-08-26
39 min
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Episode 22: Brain amoeba
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 20: Darkness Falls
2022-08-19
41 min
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Episode 21: At least something got recorded
Liz recaps the disaster that was the recording of Episode 21 and shares two spooky stories.
2022-08-12
11 min
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Episode 20: We're back!
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 18: Miracle Man
2022-08-05
32 min
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Episode 19: You down with EBE?
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 17: E.B.E
2022-06-17
40 min
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Episode 18: Horse feet
Liz, Helen, and a special guest star discuss Season 1 Episode 16: Young at Heart.
2022-06-10
1h 04
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Bonus: Do we believe?
Liz and Helen discuss a recent hearing by the US government regarding the presence of alien life.
2022-06-03
45 min
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Episode 16: How badly do you want that ring?
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 15: Lazarus
2022-05-27
50 min
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Episode 15: Krycek's origin story
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 14: Genderbender
2022-05-20
43 min
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Episode 14: Worms: Fact or Fiction?
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 13: Beyond the Sea
2022-05-13
51 min
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Episode 13: Aristocracy
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 12: Fire
2022-05-06
57 min
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Episode 12: It's all coming back to me
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 11: Eve
2022-04-29
50 min
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Episode 11: Funeral Clowns
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 10: Fallen Angel
2022-04-23
41 min
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Episode 10: Stats Helmet
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 9: Space
2022-04-15
40 min
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Episode 9: Archipelago
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 8: Ice
2022-04-08
46 min
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BONUS EPISODE: Helen and Liz answer listener questions
Helen and Liz answer listener questions
2022-04-01
56 min
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Episode 7 - Liz and Helen have nothing to say
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 7: Ghost in the Machine
2022-04-01
28 min
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Episode 6: Property Brothers Fan Fic
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 6: Shadows
2022-03-25
55 min
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Episode 5: Is Robert Smith the Jersey Devil?
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 5: Jersey Devil
2022-03-18
39 min
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Episode 4: Chuck Berry in Space
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 4: Conduit
2022-03-11
58 min
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Episode 3 - Santa for bad kids
Helen and Liz discuss Season 1 Episode 3: Squeeze
2022-03-04
39 min
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Episode 2 - Time is the Real X-Files
Helen and Liz discuss Season 1 Episode 2: Deep Throat
2022-02-25
48 min
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Episode 1 - Orangutan or alien?
Liz and Helen discuss Season 1 Episode 1: Pilot
2022-02-17
45 min