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Ini Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Birds: NingrumWonder how a person can keep birds in an apartment? Yeah, me too. To my surprise, although there are times where landlords are not allowing its tenants to have pet, some birds are allowed. They are small, most of them quiet, and are expected to sit majestically inside a cage. However, this does not always stand true. Being one of the smartest animals, not to mention the dinosaurs descendants, birds are highly social, unique and also playful. They know how to get to our heart, especially those who can actually talk. And get this, only by meeting and talking...2021-08-3135 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Reptile: Troy HambaliAs you might have learned, I am so ignorant about pets already (at least for the first 5 minutes you would realize that I have a hard time differentiating amphibians and reptiles. Ouch). However, my curiosity overcomes my fear to the extent that now I wanted to know more about reptiles. From tortoises to pythons, from bearded dragons to Cuvier’s dwarf caiman (the smallest crocodile in the world), we would cover them all tonight in this breathtaking talk. I am glad that I get to spend the precious minutes with Troy Hambali, outstanding animal lovers, and through him my fe...2021-08-2432 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Dogs: Parvita SiregarParvita and her dogs everyday routines as follows. AM: Waking up, everyone down the stairs and do their number one and possibly number two at their designated spaces, Parvita cleans up after them. Taking a 30mins run with the two dogs. Second outing: walk with the third dog, being an older dude that he is. Breakfast for the four of them. Long day ahead for Parvita (house chores-working-life stuffs), while the dogs are taking their first nap of the day. PM: Lunch at 3PM, backyard-outing for all three, and then another nap.  And here are some...2021-08-1941 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Dog/Cats/Turtles: Ina DarmiyantiWhy would anyone have so much pets? The answers may vary, but listening to all the reasons that Ina shared with us tonight is in fact interesting. From the way those animals would love you unconditionally, looking at you lovingly, asking for no returns all the way to the way this surreal times might ease your anxiety by having one or maybe more pets. I like the way the conversation goes as it does sound like it is easy and so much fun in caring for animals to those who enjoys them. There is no tension of having that...2021-08-1730 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Aquascape: Götz MartinEven when he had to smuggle a new aquarium into the storage, he would not back down. That's a rule number one for a pet lover or any other hobbyist really since it is easier to ask for forgiveness rather than asking your spouse permission! :) Owning 15 aquarium with vast varieties ecosystem in each of them, Götz really got his hands on. This particular fascination started years ago when he was still 8-9 years old in Germany. And only when he moved to Indonesia, he had the will to restart this long lost passion to an actual hobby. Through t...2021-08-1238 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPet Lovers, Koi: Muhammad FaisalWhen I think about Koi, I would only think about this person, that is Faisal of course. Even in his high school years, he has already had the inkling to fishes. Koi that is. From his admiration to restaurants' ponds to actually created his own pond, one can only assume that he really has that zing. As a true hobbyist he understood the level of commitment (both pain and joy) that it takes to caring for more than fourty Kois. During the discussion tonight, I got a little glimpse on caring for fishes, the ponds, the genetics, and that...2021-08-1027 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & Media SosialIt does take one hell of courage admitting to our obsession with social media. From that phone book that you kept tight in your pocket in the early 90s, to the matchmaking apps in early 2000s to the ninth wonder of the world: Instagram. We tried to cover it all and letting our own experiences be the guide. Friendster, Twitter, Facebook, match.com, Zoosk, MIRC, ICQ, YM, Kaskus, Tinder, Linkedin, and finally Instagram. Those platforms mentioned above might tickle your senses. Reminiscing to what it was once. And hopefully none of you have ever signed up to a dating...2021-07-2959 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & KeluargaThis is getting way too personal! :) Having said that, you might learn one or million about where the three of us came from: our family history. The family who are related by blood, by marriage or that special people (and of course that canine family) who we consider our own even when we do not share DNA albeit we do share similar beliefs. Nina with her Javanese touch, Parvita with her mix of Northern Sumatra and Western Sumatra flair, and I with my pure Minang blood in me. Wondering how the three stories merged into one heavy and long...2021-07-271h 07Ini Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & MistisFirst, let me tell you that especially for this episode, we did not mean to offend both human and the unknown creatures. When we discuss whatever it is that we discuss, please know that we are celebrating life and all the complexities within. Which for tonight, it includes all the stories we have heard, seen, and to some extent, experienced. It may not be true, it may be 100% true, or maybe just maybe it has some truth to the stories. Whatever it is, we were pretty much discussing this mystical theme in a positive note and hope you will...2021-07-2259 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & DandanFrom the time B18 in Ratu Plaza was the ultimate place to purchase that MAC lipstick to the time when that Body Shop lip gloss was suddenly a must-have item for us. This discussion will absolutely cover all the things that you need to know about looking and feeling good and also the things you probably do not have any interest in such as Vaginal Rejuvenation and Haji Jeje treatment :). Although, we are more interested to why we do make-up, how far we are willing to enhance our appearance (plastic surgery, botox, filler, etc.), would we go for tattoo...2021-07-2054 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & TeknologiCan a woman be a tech savvy kind of dudette? Well, there are a lot of techie women out there much as there are a lot of non-techie kind of dude. So let's see this from a neutral angle. :) In tonight episode we will be discussing technology in ways that only us can do. Ngalor-ngidul-ngetan-ngulon style. Our understanding of technology is just as much as yours probably are. Nevertheless, given the combined years of experience, we have passed some of the most exciting technology inventions of our time. Gramophone, Walkman, Mini Compo, Pager, Game Watch, Cassettes, all the way...2021-07-1545 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & Karir Part 2With the immense informations coming and going through social media along with the #MeToo movements, we can no longer stereotyping that women in workspace are all X, and then women who chose to be a solid home maker is definitely act like a Y. In this episode of Ini Bukan Diskusi, we are trying to get out of those small-mindedness. Yet we did not stop there, there is also discussions about men in the workspace and men who are also a home maker. We were initially not ready to break the common misconceptions but yet here we all are...2021-07-1338 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & Karir Part 1Ever wonder why we are what we are? This heated and surprisingly entertaining discussion obviously chewing over being women in the workspace. Some might say it is common, some might say how dare you choose career over family, and the list goes on and on. Whatever have been said about women and career, we were brave enough to discuss our choices. How did Parvita start her career? Why did Nina choose not to become a doctor, since both of her parents are doctors? Why did Imelda choose to be a house worker? :) Some of us were once dreaming of...2021-07-0837 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiPerempuan & PandemiAlong with the semi lockdown being imposed by the government across Java Island and Bali, we would like to reminisce about the whole experience regarding this Covid-19 pandemic. As we will have three female hosts throughout the month of July, it is only fair to revisit the rhetoric from our set of eyes. Living with the current pandemic for ordinary women. How did it feel? How does it feel? What do we have to adjust? Is it difficult to do so? Could we actually stay at home and reinvent ourselves or will we end up wasting the days longing...2021-07-0647 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Teddy DanasWhen you think of banking and the likes, you will immediately be brought into all sorts of imaginary scenarios. However, Pak Teddy's line of works challenged all the notions that we've (I've) ever had. As the Senior Vice President of Government & Institutional at Bank Mandiri, he works with the Ministry of State Owned Enterprises to oversee their project: 'BUMN Untuk Indonesia' as the mediator between the government, Bank Mandiri and other State Owned Enterprises to increase their productivity and efficiency. What impressed me most throughout the interview is that he is also involved with the Ministry of Agriculture...2021-06-2431 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Erly FitriantiAnyone who met or knew Erly must have thought the same thing: What is it about her that amazed us so much? How on earth does she do it all? How many hours of sleep does she have? Through this discussion, I found all the answers. The truth is according to Erly, work-life balance is only possible if you can balance your expectation with the commitment you have set for yourself. A highly target-oriented person, she flawlessly brought us into the Pertamina dimension, which was the third-largest crude oil producer in Indonesia in 2020. As a non-oil person, all I...2021-06-2252 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Eri WibowoComing from private sectors for 12 years, Eri Wibowo suddenly found his calling in serving for Indonesia in 2012. What were the odds that that specific calling presented itself in a form of Sarana Multi Infrastruktur job offer. With his astounding background in Finance, this Universitas Indonesia and George Washington University graduate, striving to help people within his means. Actively financing immeasurable infrastructure projects for Indonesian's central government, local government, and private institutions. What surprised me his works also tapped the Renewables Energy sector: solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, and biomass energy. Through this light discussion over coffee tonight, I learned a...2021-06-1728 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Yuke RatnawulanMaybe some of you have heard the 'Satpol PP' term. Well, back in the day we called them 'Tibum' from Ketertiban Umum. Those guys who were once a figure in tidying up the city, was the sole inspiration for our guest tonight in becoming a civil servant. Soon she set her goal in life to help cities all over Indonesia to take care of the poor without leaving them empty handed. With her background of Urban and Regional Planning, she now works for Ministry of Public Works and Public Housing of Republic of Indonesia, and her dreams may just...2021-06-1539 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Siska DamayantiTonight, we have an accountant who once worked in the Hospitality Industry before made a decision to join the Ministry of Defense. What a change! See, this is why we like talking in a greater depth with people, you will be surprised at times. During the entire discussion, we got the sense of what it is to be a part of the Ministry of Defense, the culture and especially the education. And also tonight we had the chance to get a glimpse on how to work in the military environment while still maintaining civilian (non-military) status. Siska Damayanti's work...2021-06-1039 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Ambia KamilInspired by his dad, Ambia chose to work for the government and now is a civil servant for Pemda DKI. As a part of Dinas Perumahan Rakyat dan Kawasan Permukiman Provinsi DKI Jakarta and has spent four years working in the private sector before working for the government, Ambia has more delightful stories to be shared than what we anticipated. His experience in representing DKI Jakarta for Dutch Urban Training & Exposure Programme (DUTEP) in Van Oord-Netherland, has also shaped his way of thinking on how to connect within divisions in DKI Jakarta along with other young civil servants...2021-06-0842 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Mariani SugandiHaving a military level of discipline and vigorously dressed like one since Middle School, it was not a surprise really when we heard that Mariani chose to go to Taruna Nusantara for her high school (with its military-like discipline) instead of SMAN 3 Bandung. And the dream came true! She is now a doctor who works for the Indonesian Air Force under the Ministry of Defense. It is a complicated route yet a good one! Still living the dream by curing patients yet still under the military environment. I have nothing but awe, hope you are inspired as well. @inibukandiskusi2021-06-0332 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiBakti Untuk Negeri: Yusi YulianaKnowing Yusi Yuliana for most of my life means that I get to be proud for her achievement. Working for the Central Bank of Indonesia is no easy feat. The challenge of work and life balance means that you have to juggle the right way while still connecting with your inner motherhood. A mother of three, she is now positioned in Tasikmalaya, West Java where she oversees UMKM in Tasikmalaya, Pangandaran, and Banjar. Her constant interaction with Small and Medium Scale Enterprises in her area can be felt on our discussion tonight. Pretty awesome how she manages to stay...2021-06-0132 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Chaidir AkbarWhat more can I say with this hot-stuffs-dude, whom Deddy and I got to spend an hour with. He is the man of his game, one of the best bike handling dude that I have ever met. He was arguably my first non-athlete inspiration when I started the trilogy games of biking, running, and swimming back in 2013. Taught me stuffs about trail running, and especially bike handling from a to z. Eventually merely a couple of years later, you could actually say, that the name Chaidir Akbar is almost a household name to many soon-to-be and pro triathletes and...2021-05-0652 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Diah VitalokaA young woman with so many (too many) things on her plate! Deddy and I are pleased to talk with one of the young and bubbly Bintaro Trojan Runners member, Diah Vitaloka or Vita. Set aside her twelve-hours shift in Starbucks, she still manages to exercise at the very least three times a week, then starting to learn how to cook, while also quite active on Netflix (highly important). Interestingly, she is one of the rare Indonesian person in my life who is actually spending some times in shaping her way in order to have a good and healthy...2021-05-0439 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Bilal AhmadTwenty-three years old, one good heart, an entrepreneur, a runner, is a college student while also working full time to pay for his college tuition. So if you (me, us) think we cannot do it all, uhm I guess we have just been proven wrong by this young dude called Bilal. Highly energetic Bilal told us his tale of being born lazy and had nothing else on his mind but flying a kite :) Over time, Bilal transformed to this high-functioning teenager and now in his early twenties. We are so proud to have him in Bintaro Trojan Runners. Hopefully...2021-04-2942 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Evie WahyuniSome people may have one goal in their life: to lose weight. And here we are, discussing Keto Diet with one of the pioneer in Bintaro Trojan Runners circle. I might have been guilty before looking at Evie's weird diet. But as the discussion goes, Deddy and I actually learned a thing or two about this Keto Diet. Interesting, funny, a very fluid conversation about balancing life: keto diet, exercises, ketofying stuffs (if that's even a word), and one working momma. You go girl! Listen up! Co-host: Deddy Sebayang. @inibukandiskusi2021-04-2747 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Michael CullinaneFourteen pages of Sports CV with almost eight decades of experience, he continues to spark energy wherever he is. Mike is still biking to and from the office every single day, comes summer (super hot) and winter (super cold and icy, thus slippery). This is a trait that is unusual for my experience surrounded by older people here in Indonesia. Aside from 3-100miles ride here and there, he also finished a Ragbrai touring with 500miles distance over the course of 7 days just few years ago. I’m already exhausted just by imagining it. If you are into sports an...2021-04-221h 02Ini Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Andy 'Iyan' SugiyantoAndy or Iyan, whichever you prefer, was in athletic club growing up. Then life happens. Off to college, followed by taking administrative jobs, he just didn't find his passion there. Of course his love for sports kept asking him to go back to that route. When the opportunity came to be a part of Celebrity Fitness Instructor, he took it seriously. Taking license here and there, he finally made it. And now, he is also a 3:20 Marathon Finisher. What a life! Great conversationist, hope you will enjoy it as much as we do. Co-host: Deddy Sebayang. @inibukandiskusi2021-04-2049 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Juanita AdeIf you feel that your mood is not getting better, perhaps listening to this interview about one hell of a singer will brighten up your day. This is the uproarious life story about Juanita Ade, the only female bike-fitter in Indonesia today, (thank you Specialized!). She started her active lifestyle since she was just an elementary schooler with her then antique road bike. If you know Juanita, and wonder how she becomes who she is along with her early start in Indonesian music world, then do listen! Prepare to be rolled on the floor or in need of an...2021-04-1558 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Marino BaroekGroomed as an athlete in Rumbai since he was 9 years old, Marino has built his life in and around sports. An established swimmer in his early years and a basketball player in the later years have helped him to decide his fate on going to the best school while also meeting his wife. However, being an athlete that he was, hyperthyroid has not been kind to him. BUT, that does not mean he lost his fitness. That just means that he needs to be smarter when exercising. And now even when he is too shy to admit his six-pack-ness...2021-04-1357 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: Thya GirindraAs finishers of two full Ironman, Thya Girindra is no ordinary woman. She tells the tale of how strong her love for biking even when it's pouring rain and unlimited hills during a race. This interview is hilarious in two ways: the way she was once a Queen of the Mountain for almost half a day (OMG! too funny) and the tips she gives us on how to stay fresh after any sports activities. Stay tuned! Co-host: Deddy Sebayang. @inibukandiskusi2021-04-0847 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiLeading Active Lifestyle: ElianaLooking great apparently takes effort! (duh!) Owner of more than twenty sports bras, Eliana's physique is awesome. And during the interview, she delivers warmth, humor, and how she takes her exercise time seriously. We have a great pleasure interviewing Eliana and getting to know not only present Eliana but also her family, her past, and her favorite athletes! Stay tuned for our singing in the end of the interview. :) Co-host: Deddy Sebayang. @inibukandiskusi2021-04-0645 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: Dewi Rosaria IndahThe interview began with an honest purpose of seeing Jakarta the way it was once in the 70s. Little did I know, that Tante Dewi was once and still is, a celebrated young actress. As a recipient of Piala Citra at a super young age, we had the chance to go back in time, listening and reminiscing the way movie industry worked in those Jakarta days. Rina, Ratapan Anak Tiri, Pemberang, and Si Doel Anak Betawi brought to life once again over the interview, and I am completely in a starstruck mode. Hope you enjoy the talk as much...2021-03-2552 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: Albertus PrawataWhen you think about sustainability, big ideas come to mind. You know, that most complicated, most cumbersome, out of this world-tangled of webs, that the more you think about it, the more tired you become. And then it's gone. However, tonight, we have the privilege to discuss some small-scale methods that each every one of us can contribute to celebrate this great city! JKT Play is one great way to do so, and Berto, an architect and a lecturer, is the absolutely right person to talk to. Hope you are excited with waves of enlightening in all the fifty-nine...2021-03-231h 00Ini Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: Rosa SyahruzadI love the fact that the more I talked to people, the less confidence I have about me knowing everything about Jakarta. As you can tell, I know close to nothing yet the conversation flows. I love meeting these Jakartans, and tonight, I have the pleasure meeting a 20-something person! Although we have two centuries in between, some things remain the same, although a lot of other things are so different. Keywords for the night would have to be Makaroni Goreng Dadar, Koas Korting, Burger 4ribuan, along with Kramat Jati Indah Mall! So fun. Do tune in! @inibukandiskusi2021-03-1839 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: Lissa MartinBetawi people, who are they? Living in Jakarta does not always mean that you are the true Jakartans. True Jakartans would be Betawi people. And tonight, we have the privileges to talk with one. Lissa Martin, born and raised in Pasar Minggu, South Jakarta. Throughout the interview we had the chance to unpack the true meaning of being a Betawi person. The food, the weddings, the traditions, along with the unseen! Haha.. Surely this is another entertaining interview. Do enjoy! @inibukandiskusi2021-03-1650 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: Sudaryono WidodoThis is a great source of information and nostalgia of Jakarta in the 70s through the early 90s. Here are some keywords that will instantly bring you back: Aquarius, Sarinah, Restoran Trio-Paramount-Tan Ek Tjoean (correction: Tab Goei), Playboy Kabel, PPD, along with G30S/PKI. Oh how time flies, we are so glad that we get to hear it out from the master! Do enjoy and have fun reminiscing.2021-03-1137 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiJAKARTA: CandhaInterviewing one of the founder for Jakarta Good Guide tonight! What is exactly Jakarta Good Guide? Who is their customer? What is pay as you wish? Does it really work in Jakarta climate? OMG so many questions. With 30 different routes to choose along with their virtual tour, Jakarta Good Guide is a good start to get to know all parts of Jakarta! 2021-03-0945 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: Reza & TineA non-stop fun conversation about cultural diversities in a marriage. Both Reza and Tine come from a mixture of Javanese and Manadonese. Both also come from two Abrahamic religions on either side of their huge families. Yet, both are still surprised when their son chose to be an outstanding 7 years old Cultural Practitioner. And I kid you not, Gaga, their son, is a living wonder for practicing the art of Barong Sai (Chinese origin, or so they say), Ondel-Ondel (Batavia origin, again, so they say), and most recent: Gedruk (Central Java origin, or so they say). A seven years...2021-02-2558 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: Fide & RethaWe can always make future plan with our life. Career-wise, family-wise, marriage-wise (even our burial plot). But sometimes, reality gets in the way. It might not be something that we are ready for, especially if it deviates too far from that polished perfect plan. Same thing goes with marriage. A perfect marriage does not exist. It never does. What you see in social media is a whole different level of bullshit. However, one does wonder, to what extent do we want to sacrifice our own happiness for the sake of being married? What did it take for us to...2021-02-2352 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: Dyah & MirkoWhatever perceptions that I thought about Italian men AND Javanese women are challenged in this interview. This couple lets me know that coming from two sides of the world, in this case: Javanese woman to an Italian man, is really a challenge. But I like their attitude that no matter where you are in this world, you must find a partner that allows you to be yourself. It's nice to be reminded every once in a while. From rosemary seeds to their eldest loving sambal, from a romantic planned proposal to a quick carport proposal, this is the real...2021-02-181h 01Ini Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: 'Tiara'I started the interview with a common misconception that having more than one relationship means that it is all about passion and fire. Talking to Tiara definitely a steep learning curve for me. That as a human who only has one life to live, we need to figure out what it is that we love. What is our intention in doing practically anything? If we find ourselves being easily upset throughout any of our life choices, then we will no longer be happy and unable to manage our own energy. This is not a discussion about how to get...2021-02-1641 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: Agnes & DeddyComing from a different background along with a slight disapproval from one member of the family did not stop the two to keep the fire alive. What do you know, Javanese and Karo can actually stay together for more that 18 years of marriage? A light comedy for accompanying your family dinner tonight. Do enjoy!2021-02-1141 minIni Bukan DiskusiIni Bukan DiskusiMARRIAGE STORIES: Andre & JhennaIf you think all Chinese Indonesians are the same (just like any other ethnicities throughout the globe, they are absolutely not), then listen to this. We will uncover even when the two seemingly have similar cultures, their background may not so. I learned so much and now know something about Hokkien and Kuntien and how the mixing of the two in a marriage is a beautiful little thing. 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