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The Table: Conversations on Youth JusticeSecond Chances: Navigating Youth Re-Entry in Michigan (with Dr. Paul Elam from the Michigan Public Health Institute!)In this episode of The Table, we dive into the challenges and opportunities surrounding youth re-entry in Michigan. How do young people transition back into their communities after time in a detention or residential facility? What support systems are in place to help them succeed?Joining us is Dr. Paul Elam from the Michigan Public Health Institute (MPHI) to discuss their Juvenile Re-Entry Program. Tune in as we unpack the importance of wraparound services, the role of community-based care, and how recent juvenile justice reforms in Michigan are shaping the future of youth re-entry. Plus, hear...
2025-02-1839 min
More Than A LawyerJason Elam's Journey of Service and AdvocacyMore Than A Lawyer with Christy Crow, Episode 12
In this episode of More Than A Lawyer, Christy Crow speaks with Jason Elam, a Louisiana native with extensive litigation experience defending clients in complex litigation matters in Louisiana and nationally. Jason oversees the New Orleans office at Gay Jones & Kuhn managing toxic tort, personal injury, and national and international commercial litigation dockets. Jason also specializes in premises liability, products liability, and environmental construction litigation. With over a decade of experience, Jason shares insights into his legal career.
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2024-07-0328 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastIn the MarginsIn this episode, Lola interviews ordained priest and writer Shannon Kearns.Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com and his first book, In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture was published by Eerdmaan’s books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and...
2023-05-1723 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastWhen It's Time to Walk AwayThis Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Wild Olive Podcast. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Gourmet Breakfast Blend!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can know when it's time to walk away from a toxic religious environment.The crew welcomes Instagrammer, YouTuber, and soon-to-be author, Laci Bean to the show...
2023-05-0157 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastLiving More AuthenticallyThis Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, Drugs and Jesus, by Joshua Lawson which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Tanzania!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can live more authentically as our true selves and some common obstacles to being who we really are.Jason interviews author Karen Shock...
2023-04-171h 04The Messy Spirituality PodcastPREVIEW: Parenting Deconstructed-The PodcastIn this introductory episode of his brand-new podcast, Jason Elam discusses the need for a wholesale re-evaluation of our parenting methods in light of spiritual deconstruction. You can purchase a copy of the book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, here.Please follow Parenting Deconstructed on Facebook and Instagram.Up next: Chapter One featuring Keith Giles, releasing Friday, April 7th, 2023.Please be sure to follow or subscribe to "Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast" on your podcasting app of choice. Thank you!This...
2023-04-0714 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastA Compassionate Response to AddictionThis Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Story of Christianity Told As Good News for All by Ric Machuga which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free.In this episode, the crew talks about substance use disorder, harm reduction, and how people of faith can respond more compassionately. For insight on this, Jason talks to Joshua Lawson who has...
2023-04-031h 02
Deconstructing MamasParenting Deconstructed - Jason ElamJason Elam, grateful husband, author, proud dad of four amazing kids, host of the Messy Spirituality Podcast, and former church pastor, is our guest this week. Although he is deconstructing from toxic religion, he is still enamored by Jesus. Our time with Jason was refreshing and empowering, especially in the area of deconstructing and parenting. Speaking from his very own mistakes and frustration with his own early parenting based in rigid evangelicalism, he walks us through the hard part of forgiving ourselves and repairing what's been broken in our relationships with our kids, bringing the li...
2023-03-2844 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastAre You Ready to Get Unstuck?Hey, everyone. Jason here again. I got so much great feedback from the "Jesus the Mystic" message that I did a couple of weeks ago, that I decided to turn it into a series. Here is the second installment, "Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?".Sometimes, the way out of our rut is simpler than we think.What is your next step to getting unstuck? We'd love to hear from you in our Messy Conversations group on Facebook.By the way, the Robcast episode that I refer to in this...
2023-03-2038 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastWisdom from The ShireThis Quoircast podcast episode if brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. Order your copy of this groundbreaking book today!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co. Use promo code "Messy" for 20% off of your first order!In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason are joined by publisher, author, and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano to discuss finding inspiration among the hobbits of J.R.R. Tolkien's Shire.Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books...
2023-03-1347 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastThe Cost of CensorshipThis Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book "What Can't Be Hidden" by Brandon Andess. Order your copy today here.In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason welcome Quoir Publishers and authors Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles for a conversation about censorship and its' high cost for society.Books you are going to want to check out after listening to this episode:The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo TolstoyAlice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll
2023-03-0649 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastSunday Sermon: Jesus the MysticHey, everyone! Jason here. I was in the car for 10 hours yesterday and had bursts of conversation with God. I took some notes to share with you. This one is a little out there and might stretch some of my evangelical friends. Please stick with me. I think you'll like where we end up.In this talk, I discuss:The need to separate Jesus the first-century teacher from the religious icon passed down to us.The first century understanding of some of Jesus' key teachings.What forgiveness and loving our enemies really look...
2023-03-0538 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastIs There a Way Back to Eden?In this brand-new episode, Jason speaks with author Heather Hamilton about her spiritual journey, mystical experiences that change our lives, and her brilliant new book, Returning to Eden.Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about...
2023-02-2051 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastThe Magic of Letting GoThis Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the This is Not Church podcast featuring our friends Jon and Nat Turney. If you're not listening to them already you should definitely check them out!In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Jason interviews author and former pastor Kevin Sweeney about his spiritual journey and the hidden power of letting go. You're going to love this conversation!Be sure to check out Kevin's books The Making of a Mystic and The Joy of Letting Go.Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead...
2023-01-2334 min
What If ProjectEpisode 239: Jason Elam And Parenting DeconstructedToday we sit down with Jason Elam who (along with his wife, Brandi) put together an amazing book called "Parenting Deconstructed". We talk parenting, deconstruction, and how the 2 inform each other - go get it!
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2023-01-1651 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastFavorite Books of 2022This episode is sponsored by the incredible book Divine Echoes by Dr. Mark Gregory Harris. If you haven't already read this book you're missing out!In today's episode, Jason speaks with Brent Schebler of Ink Drinker Editing and Literary Services about his spiritual journey and some of his favorite reads of 2022.Books mentioned in this episode:The Shack by William Paul YoungParenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family BehindThe Hidden Lives of TreesKissing With Eyes Wide Open...
2023-01-1234 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastBrad Jersak Returns!This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by our friends at the Heretic Happy Hour podcast! Check them out wherever you listen to podcasts!On this episode, Jason interviews returning guest Brad Jersak to discuss reframing the conversation about deconstruction and its impact.Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen’s University (SSU.ca/graduate) in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with IRPJ.org and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew.
2022-12-131h 00The Messy Spirituality PodcastAre Angels and Demons Real?This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss our current understandings/beliefs about angels, demons, and the spirit realm. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that you're gonna love.During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Eric English who recently released a new book entitled, "UNnlightenment: A Theological Foundation for Deconstructing and Reconstructing the Christian Faith".Eric Scot English writes the UNenlightenment column for...
2022-11-281h 08The Messy Spirituality PodcastWhat Makes You Grateful?This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what makes each of them grateful. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that will make all the ladies very grateful.During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Daniel Henderson who recently released "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical".With a 40 year career in education, Daniel Henderson has the grounding of being a life-long mid-westerner, and having traveled...
2022-11-171h 07The Messy Spirituality PodcastWhat Happens After We Die?This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what each of them think might happen after we die. Auntie Lola also has a very spooky Halloween edition of WTF Bible Stories.During our interview segment, Jason interviews poet Darrell Epp about life, art, and art's impact on the world.Darrell Epp is a poet, freelance journalist, and playwright whose work has appeared widely in magazines...
2022-10-3159 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastWhat Happens to People Who Commit Suicide?This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday and their latest episode features none other than our own Lola Robbins!This brand new episode features:A big announcement worthy of celebration!A special Halloween edition of "Auntie Lola's WTF Bible Stories"An interview with recording artist and all-around badass Hailey Dixon!A conversation about what happens to those who commit suicide.Hailey Dixon is a writer, songstress and a woman with...
2022-10-171h 13The Messy Spirituality PodcastSlavery On the Ballot?This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday so check them out!In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss ballot initiatives in several states that seek to end forced labor in U.S. prisons and lingering racial injustice in the United States.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on...
2022-09-2157 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastWhy Can't We Be Friends?In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the news regarding Matt Chandler, lead pastor of The Village Church in Flower Mound, TX who recently stepped down due to what he referred to as "non-sexual, non-romantic, unwise course joking" with a female via direct messages. We look at how the situation was handled and the questions raised by the church's response. Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You...
2022-09-0956 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastDoes God Need Our Money?In this new episode, Lola, Kyle and Jason discuss one of the most disgusting stories in the Bible and take a look at rampant financial exploitation and manipulation in the church.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram...
2022-08-221h 01
The Messy Spirituality PodcastThe Dangers of Fear Based ReligionIn this new episode, Lola, Kyle and Jason discuss performance art at CPAC, the injustice of mass incarceration, another twisted Bible story, and the negative impact of religions based on fear.Take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please...
2022-08-1653 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastThriving Outside of Organized Religion with Karl and Laura ForehandIn this new uncut conversation, Jason Elam discusses finding life and community outside of church with authors Laura and Karl Forehand.Karl Forehand is the award-winning author of Apparent Faith, The Tea Shop, Being, and The Hotel. Laura Forehand is an educator specializing in whole brain teaching. Laura and Karl are the authors of the new book, Out into the Desert: Thriving Outside Organized Religion which is available now in paperback and e-book format. Karl and Laura host The Desert Sanctuary podcast. Karl is a columnist for Patheos. They have three children and three grandchildren that...
2022-08-1551 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastThe Dark Side of VBSIn this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the question "Could Church Be Harming Our Kids?", the recent video of Uvalde police officers, and rethinking whether or not David was really a "man after God's own heart".Take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old...
2022-07-2149 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastCan I Trust My Own Heart?Welcome to Season 4 of the show! We're excited to welcome Kyle Butler and Lola Robbins as our new co-hosts and we're launching a new format that we hope you will love!In this first episode of the new era, we discuss new beginnings, the story of Esther in the Bible, the US Supreme Court decision regarding Roe vs. Wade, and learning to hear the language of God/The Universe/love to you. It's a great conversation and we'd love to hear what you think over on the Messy Conversations group on Facebook.While...
2022-07-0651 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastSeason Three-Episode 06: Searching for the God Who Heals with James EarlyIn this episode, I'm joined by my friend James Early. James is a Bible teacher, speaker, blogger, and podcaster. He grew up in Amarillo, TX, and received his BA from Vanderbilt University. He gives talks and conducts workshops on the Bible covering a wide range of topics to churches and groups as well as online. Since October 2008, James has conducted weekly Bible study workshops at the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, CT. He started The Bible Speaks to You Podcast in October 2019, now with listeners in 130 countries. His focus is on getting back to the original Christianity of Jesus. A...
2022-03-061h 06
The Bible Speaks to You: Think, Pray, Love like Jesus120 – Jason Elam: The Love and Acceptance of God120 – This week I talk with Jason Elam about God's unfailing love for us.Jason Elam, host of The Messy Spirituality Podcast, shared some very personal stories about his faith journey.At seven years old he made his first profession of faith in a very legalistic churchAs a teen, he "died" during an operation, saw a Jesus type presence, and came back to life full of an indescribable sense of God's loveHis childhood dream of being a professional wrestler did not last as long as expectedFor 20 years, he was a pastor of a local church.But...
2022-01-251h 13
This Is Not Church PodcastTalking Fatherhood & Deconstruction with Eric Howell and Jason ElamIn This episode we chat with Eric Howell & Jason Elam.
Eric is a husband a father of two, and audio wizard. He is the man behind the curtain of deconstruction podcast. Producing shows such as Heretic Happy Hour, The Messy Spirituality Podcast, The Reconstruction Podcast, and this very show - This Is Not Church. He hails from Arab, Alabama. He dislikes Brussel sprouts and legalism.
This is Jason’s second time on our show. You can read his bio on episode #2.
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2021-12-131h 02
The Protectors® Podcast#223 | Jerome Elam | Survivor | Marine | Trafficking in America Task ForceSend us a textJerome Elam joined The Protectors this past week. Jerome ( @ceotiaff ) provides incredible insight into the trafficking world from the eyes of a victim turned survivor. This is a must listen/watch interview providing an unflinching view of domestic trafficking. Jerome is a U.S. Marine Veteran, survivor, and advocate for ending modern day slavery. Interview premieres this Monday. Later this week Jerome, and a panel of global counter-trafficking leaders, join me at the First Annual International Summit on Counter-Sex Trafficking (ISCST). This ISCST is a 100% VIRTUAL EVENT involving international experts, agencies, and or...
2021-06-2032 min
Visionlife365What Do You Do When You Get A Cancer Diagnosis? Special Guest Jeremy ElamListen in as Jason and Gary interview Jason's long-time friend, Jeremy Elam. Jeremy recently received a cancer diagnosis. As with any serious diagnosis, there is always a time of readjusting, but you will LOVE Jeremy's answer. Jeremy shares how serving Jesus is most important, and he will continue faithfully just as he did before the diagnosis. If you are someone facing cancer or know someone facing cancer, this episode is for you. It is guaranteed to encourage you in your faith. Jeremy is candid and open about his struggles, but he is also excited about the opportunities for him...
2021-06-1446 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastBonus Episode, A Very Messy Message: Love is Not SafeIn this brief uncut message, Jason talks about the myth of safety and how to look for signs of health in our relationships and communities.Books referenced in this episode: "Being: A Journey Toward Presence and Authenticity" by Karl Forehand"Before You Lose Your Mind: Deconstructing Bad Theology in the Church" edited by Keith GilesCheck out the following communities online:The Desert SanctuaryThis is Not ChurchWe'd really appreciate it if you'd take time to subscribe to this podcast and rate and review our show wherever you listen....
2021-05-3123 minThis Is Not Church PodcastMessy Conversations with the host of Messy Spirituality Podcast Jason ElamIn this episode we speak with our good friend Jason Elam.
Jason Elam is Brandi’s grateful husband, the proud dad of 4 awesome kids, a former professional wrestler and radio broadcaster, and former local church pastor for over 20 years. He is the author of the forthcoming book, “From Ashes We Rise” and hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast.
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2021-03-1559 min
Redrawing the BathFacing Our Fears with Jason ElamJason Elam is Brandi’s grateful husband, proud dad of 4 awesome kids, a former professional wrestler and radio broadcaster, and former local church pastor for over 20 years. He is the author of the forthcoming book, “From Ashes We Rise” and hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast. You can connect with Jason at MessySpirituality.org.
2020-10-1944 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 56: Encountering God in The Tea Shop with Karl ForehandWelcome to episode 56 of the podcast featuring the one and only Karl Forehand. Karl is a former pastor and is the award winning author of the wonderful book, "Apparent Faith" for which he won a 2020 Christian Indie Award. He and his wife, Laura, host The Desert Sanctuary podcast and website. He writes a thought provoking column for Patheos and, somehow, still finds time to be one of my best friends in the world. He is the creative force behind the wildly successful Nomad Conference and Too Many Podcasts online broadcasts. He has a brand new book releasing today called "The T...
2020-09-2248 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 55: "Raising Hell" with Julie FerwerdaEpisode 55 of the podcast features author Julie Ferwerda. Julie is an inspirational writer who seeks to help others experience transformational healing by overcoming fear and developing awareness of their invincible connections to God, self, and others. She is the author of several books including, Raising Hell: Christianity's Most Controversial Doctrine Put Under Fire, and One Million Arrows: Raising Your Children to Change the World. She currently works as both a travel ER nurse and a wellness guide online to inspire others to live out their full physical, emotional, spiritual, and creative potential. Visit Julie's website here. Get a FREE PDF downl...
2020-09-1347 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 54: Following Jesus Out of the Church of Christ with Ashley RobbinsEpisode 54 of the podcast features Ashley Robbins. Ashley is an artist and cosmetologist who works full time at a major university. She grew up in a conservative Church of Christ where she remained until leaving that religious system last September. She is currently undergoing a spiritual evolution and is hoping to uncover a better spiritual path. You can connect with Ashley on Facebook and Instagram.You can follow the podcast on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.The conversation from this interview continues on our private Facebook Group, Messy Conversations.You ca...
2020-09-0629 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 53: Becoming the Second Coming with Keith GilesEpisode 53 features my good friend, Keith Giles-back for a record breaking fifth visit! Keith is the prolific author of incredible books like: Jesus Untangled, Jesus Unbound, Jesus Unveiled, and Jesus Undefeated. He is one of four co-hosts of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, writes a popular column for Patheos, and teaches a variety of courses that help lead people away from toxic theology and towards freedom. His new book, Jesus Unexpected: Ending the End Times to Become the Second Coming, releases on August 25th. In this conversation, we discuss the origin of rapture theology and the end times madness that se...
2020-08-2556 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 52: The Problem of Evil with Dr. Thomas Jay OordWelcome to episode 52 of the podcast featuring Author and Speaker Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Dr. Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philospher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author or editor of twenty-five books and an award-winning professor. Oord directs the Northwind Theological Seminary doctoral program in Open and Relational Theology. He also directs the Center for Open and Relational Theology. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, issues in science and religion, and freedom for transformation. He has been president of several scholarly societies and lectures at institutions, events, a...
2020-08-1636 min
Broncos Country Throwback - Official Denver Broncos PodcastBroncos Country Throwback (Ep. 18): Looking back at Jason Elam's Ring of Fame careerOn this episode of "Broncos Country Throwback," former longtime head of PR Jim Saccomano chats with Jason Elam, who is the Broncos' all-time leading scorer. Elam discusses setting an NFL record, his post-football career and more. Want more of "Broncos Country Throwback"? Make sure to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and leave a rating/review.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2020-08-1524 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 51: Jesus, NASCAR, and Church in a Barber Shop with Steven BarberWelcome to Episode 51 of the podcast featuring pastor and writer Steven Barber. Steven is a 29 year old United Methodist Pastor who is currently on sabbatical. He has been married to Megan, his wife who is also a United Methodist Church Pastor, for seven years. They have a beautiful daughter, Gwenivere, who will be turning three later this month. Steven is pursuing his Masters of Intercultural Studies and Church Planting at Asbury Theological Seminary. He is in the process of launching a new ministry that has been on his heart since 2008 which he tells us about in this c...
2020-08-0937 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastA Very Messy Message: Letting Love InIn this message shared live at Eternal Hope Church in Mary Esther, FL, Jason talks about the power of trusting in the love of God and how it frees us from fear and insecurity.A video of this message is available on the Eternal Hope UCC Facebook page. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2020-08-0533 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 49: Kingdom Community with PK LangleyEpisode 49 features PK Langley. PK was a senior pastor who walked away from religion and learned how to love. She created over three hundred cartoons to express her journey of awakening and they are posted for free on langleytown.com. She works in the mental health field and is completing her master's in mental health counseling. In this conversation, we discuss knowing Jesus in a deep, personal way, finding scripture in all of life, the joy and heartbreak of coming out, and the coming kingdom community. You don't want to miss this conversation! You can learn more about PK Langley on...
2020-07-201h 01The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 48: Discovering Spiritual Direction with Chris EakerMy guest in episode 48 is my friend, Chris Eaker. Chris is a husband, father, former engineer, academic librarian, musician, and spiritual director who lives in Knoxville, TN. He graduated from Georgia Tech in 2000 with a degree in civil engineering and in 2013 from the University of Tennessee with a degree in informational sciences. He received his Certificate in Spiritual Direction from Richmont Graduate University in May 2020 and now offers a contemplative and reflective style of spiritual direction in Knoxville and virtually. His own spiritual formation formation has been guided by contemplative prayer practices, journaling, and silent retreats. Together, those form the f...
2020-07-1345 min
Spiritual Life and Leadership76. Losing Religion, Finding Love, with Jason Elam, host of Messy SpiritualityJason Elam, host of the Messy Spirituality podcast, has an amazing story. As a pastor, Jason had all the answers, but he didn't have a lot of love. Then something happened. Today, Jason Elam is no longer a pastor and he doesn't have all the answers. But he has discovered the love of God in a way he could never have imagined before.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Jason Elam is a former pastor and host of the Messy Spirituality podcast.Jason is currently writing a book with the working title, From Ashes We Rise: Rebuilding Your...
2020-07-0744 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 47: Worthy of Love with Markus WatsonOn episode 47, I speak with Markus Watson. Markus has been a Presbyterian pastor for almost twenty years. He currently serves as Interim Pastor of Westmorland Community Presbyterian Church in the small farming community of Westmorland, California. Markus is also the host of the Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast and is the author of Beyond Thingification: Helping Your Church Engage in God's Mission. Markus lives in San Diego with his wife and three kids. In this conversation we discuss Markus' spiritual journey, life as a pastor, the pain of being falsely accused, cancel culture, and much more. This one is different th...
2020-07-0658 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 46:At the Intersection of Hope and Despair with Derrick DayEpisode 46 features a timely conversation with author, pastor, and hopeful theologian Derrick Day. Derrick Day literally wrote the book on Deconstructing Religion. He's a long-time pastor, the host of the Love Forward podcast, and takes his message worldwide on social media via Derrick Day Multimedia.Derrick unpacks his spiritual journey for us and takes a hard look at the history of systemic racism in America and the protests taking place around the world in the aftermath of the brutal murders of Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, and so many others. PLEASE NOTE: This episode contains strong language and may no...
2020-06-1959 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 45: No Regrets with David MeyersEpisode 45 of the podcast is now available featuring David Meyers. David is a father of 4 and has been married to his wife, Nicole, for 22 years. He is a touring musician turned pastor turned firefighter and is a singer/songwriter creating music with his band Of Light and Shadow whose music is featured in this episode. In this conversation, we discuss David's spiritual journey, why he left local church ministry, his music, and living a life with no regrets. The songs "The Arc" and "Wide Awake" were featured in this episode. You can hear more music from Of Light and Shadow and...
2020-06-1247 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 44: A New Reformation with Phil DrysdaleAll the way from Manchester, England, Phil Drysdale joins us for an in depth conversation about his spiritual journey, his intense study of the current deconstruction moment that we're in, how this new reformation started, and where it's headed. Phil Drysdale helps people who are in the process of losing their faith and hopefully helps them discover something much more beautiful to believe in. He founded The Deconstruction Network, a site dedicated to both helping those deconstructing their faith find like minded people to connect with and conducting research on the deconstruction movement. When he's not travelling to meet with a...
2020-05-1856 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 43: Oneness with God with Kyle ButlerEpisode 43 of the podcast features one of the most encouraging people I know-Kyle Butler! Kyle got his start in ministry when he was just 13 years old. He was ordained at the age of 21. Five years later he was installed as the pastor of the church he grew up in. In 2008, Kyle received a revelation of grace that changed his life and ministry forever. As his understanding of grace increased, Kyle began to understand the unconditional love of God and humanity's oneness with God. Kyle is one of two co-hosts of Graceline every Monday evening at 8PM Eastern on Facebook Live. He...
2020-05-111h 00The Messy Spirituality PodcastSpecial Episode: Healing Life's WoundsIn this special episode, I provide a quick podcast update and describe a recent experience that I found helpful in healing the wounds of life.I was recently a guest on Todd Vick's very first episode of The Reconstruction Rebel podcast. You can hear that interview here.This week, I was a guest on Eric Nevins' "Halfway There" podcast. You can listen to that interview here.To register for the NOMAD 2020 virtual conference, click here. Early bird pricing ends soon so register today for the best price.To schedule a contemplative...
2020-05-0617 min
Halfway There190: Jason Elam and the Devastating Love of God
Jason Elam is the host of the Messy Spirituality podcast. Today, Jason shares the moments he was completely overwhelmed by the love of God. Jason shares his experience of God when he died on the operating table, how professional ministry damaged him, and how the love of God became his mission. Jason’s journey takes us through the rocky ground of legalism and try harder but ultimately lands in the the meadow of God’s love. Whatever your journey has brought you, Jason’s story reminds us that it’s ultimately about sharing the love of God.
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2020-05-0450 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 42: One Gay Man's Journey with Seth ShowalterEpisode 42 of the podcast features Licensed Clinical Social Worker Seth Showalter. Seth is a co-host of the Fade to Gray Podcast and also runs a solo podcast called Mental. He comes from Southern Baptist roots and was headed into ministry until he realized he had same sex attraction. Seth has had an interesting journey and isn't shy about sharing that journey for the benefit of others.We discuss Seth's spiritual journey, what led him to pursue ministry as a vocation, serving as an intern at a megachurch, why he walked away from local church ministry, and why he doesn't feel l...
2020-04-2433 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 41: Moving Towards Contemplation with Eric NevinsAfter a COVID-19 sabbatical, The Messy Spirituality Podcast is back with Episode 41 of the podcast featuring contemplative and podcaster Eric Nevins. Eric is the host of the Halfway There podcast and the founder of the Christian Podcasters Association. He is also a husband, father, and seminary graduate. I really enjoyed this conversation as we discussed Eric's spiritual journey, how he learned to pray, why he isn't a pastor, moving toward contemplation, and his advice for those undergoing a spiritual reformation. You can follow Eric on Facebook here and his podcast page here. While you’re on Facebook, please like our podca...
2020-04-1340 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 40: Executing Jesus with Shane ClaiborneEpisode 40 features a conversation with author, speaker, and activist Shane Claiborne. We discuss Shane's spiritual background and the evolution of his faith as well as what drew him into the struggle to overturn the death penalty in the United States. You can purchase Shane's paradigm shifting book on this issue, Executing Grace, here. Years ago, another one of Shane's books started a revolution of understanding in my heart and mind regarding social justice. I highly recommend his book Irresistible Revolution. Shane is a founder of The Simple Way community in Philadelphia, PA. You can visit their website here. Shane is also...
2020-03-2945 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 39: The Jesus Purpose with Bill ThrasherEpisode 39 of the podcast features author and former pastor Bill Thrasher. Bill calls himself a uniquely ordinary guy. He's a life taught academic and a warrior who is at peace. Through experience, study, and prayer, Bill has found an amazing outlook on life and its ultimate purpose. He has a burning desire to share his story and its life changing insight with everyone. A U.S. Marine, husband, father, and love of life-Bill is also a passionate teacher gifted with a unique perspective and a skilled leader in the field of business. As an author, public speaker, and minister, he ha...
2020-03-2253 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 38: The Psychology of Deconstruction with Michelle CollinsEpisode 38 of the podcast features a conversation with Michelle Collins, soon-to-be Quoir author and the host of the podcast "Book Ish: The Canon Continues". We discuss Michelle's spiritual journey, being part of the church's inner circle of leadership, and what it's like when your pastor/best friend tells you to leave your church. We talk about the grieving process and psychology of deconstruction. You can find Michelle's wonderful podcast here. You can follow Michelle on Facebook. Be sure to follow Quoir Publishing so you can be among the first to know when Michelle's new book is released! While you're on Faceb...
2020-03-1551 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastMessy Conversations 004: Todd Vick Takes Off the MaskMy friend, Todd Vick, and I just had a wonderfully "messy conversation" about the dark side of local church ministry, learning to be transparent, experiencing Jesus in a mental health support group, and Todd's upcoming book. You can find Todd Vick on Facebook. You can order Todd's incredible first book, "The Renewing of Your Mind" here. While you're on Facebook, follow The Messy Spirituality Podcast and join our private group exclusively for the listeners of this podcast, Messy Conversations. Please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast on your podcast platform of choice. Thanks so much for l...
2020-03-1149 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 37: One Ragamuffin's Journey with Chris HarmanThanks for downloading episode 37 of the podcast featuring writer, podcaster, and hopeful theologian Chris Harman. Chris is a Southern California boy living life in the low country of Charleston South Carolina with his wife Abby and his boxer Jaxon. A husband, bible student, film buff and hopeful theologian Chris loves fast paced theological discussion, great films, good bourbon and a nice cigar. His passions include social justice, rediscovering the church’s prophetic voice, and spiritual formation and contemplation. He is currently working on a book and formulating a podcast. You can connect with Chris on Facebook and Twitter. You can follo...
2020-03-0142 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastMessy Conversations 003: Two Ex-Pastors Talk About Church with Karl ForehandRecently, I had the chance to sit down for a raw, uncut conversation about the current state of the church with my friend, author, and former pastor Karl Forehand. We discuss the following:Is evangelism still a factor in light of our evolving theology?Is it possible to be addicted to church?Is there a "best" model of church?Feeding the machineWould Jesus go to church?The Role of Women in the ChurchPurity CultureFinding community after walking away...
2020-02-2758 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 36: Following Jesus By Waging Peace with Martin BrooksEpisode 36 of the podcast features Martin Brooks, the Acting President of Peace Catalyst International! Martin was recently appointed the Interim President of Peace Catalyst International. Peace Catalyst is located in 15 cities and three countries and focuses on greater understanding between Muslims and Christians. Drawing on the teachings and examples of Jesus, Martin has worked with local churches and mosques to create safe spaces to ask questions and build greater trust between Christians and Muslims. He has organized dialogue events, service projects, iftar meals and “Peace Feasts” with Palestinians, Syrians, Turks, Pakistanis, Somalis, Kurds, and Iranians. He works with city officials, refuge...
2020-02-2347 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastA Very Messy Message: If God is Good Then What Are We Saved From? Part 1A common question I hear from folks escaping the grip of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is, "If God is that good then what are we saved from?". In an attempt to answer that important question, I'm recording a video series for our Patreon supporters and releasing the audio to all of you via the podcast. This message is just the start of the series and new messages will be added to that conversation over the next several weeks.You can get instant access to this video (and others) by joining the ranks of the beautiful...
2020-02-2123 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastA Very Messy Message: A Starting Point to PeaceAnd now for something completely different... In this episode, I share some rough, unedited thoughts that have been percolating in my heart about learning to live at peace with God, ourselves, and the whole human family. I invite you to join me in praying the following benediction at the end:Creator of all Who keeps no record of wrongs Who points no finger in blame Who loves every member of the human family with scandalous love Teach me to see you, myself, and the whole human family through your eyes Hear through your ears Serve with your hands Forgive with yo...
2020-02-1828 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 35: Shame Off You with Josh RoggieWe're excited to release episode 35 of the podcast featuring author and podcaster, Josh Roggie!Josh is a graduate of Southern New Hampshire University and Ozark Christian College with a Bachelor's in Creative Writing and an Advanced Associate's in Christian Ministry. He works an ordinary 9-5 in the telecommunications world while spending all of his other time and energy telling stories that he feels people need to hear. He is the co-host of The Harbor podcast and the author of his heartbreaking and hopeful book, Shame: An Unconventional Memoir, which is set to release on February 11th.
2020-02-1135 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 34: The Church We Dream Of, Part 4 with Derek MyersThis episode is the fourth installment of our "The Church We Dream Of" series on our collective hopes and dreams for the future of the church. My guest for this final conversation of this series is recording artist/songwriter Derek Myers. Derek is a Los Angeles native transplanted in Atlanta, GA with his wife, Rachel, and two sons, Rayne and Rowan. In 2018, Derek released his debut EP entitled "Reign Freedom" with Furnace Music from Fredricksburg, VA. He is a diehard Dodger fan and shameless foodie with a fondness for good whiskey. More than anything, he longs for people to experience t...
2020-02-0340 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 33: The Church We Dream Of Part 3 with "Naked Pastor" David HaywardOn this episode, we continue our "The Church We Dream Of" series on our collective hopes and dreams for the future of the church. My guest for this third conversation of this series is prophetic artist "Naked Pastor" David Hayward.David has a Master's Degree in Theological Studies from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a diploma in Religion Studies and Ministry from McGill University in Montreal, and a diploma in University Teaching from the University of New Brunswick. He served as a local church pastor for 30 years before leaving local church ministry in 2010.Today, David uses words...
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The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 32: The Church We Dream Of Part 2 featuring Fr. Kenneth TannerOn this episode, we continue our series on our hopes and dreams for the future of the church with pastor, writer, and creative force of nature Father Kenneth Tanner. Fr. Kenneth is the pastor at Church of the Holy Redeemer, a charismatic Episcopal congregation in Rochester Hills, Michigan. In our conversation, we discuss his spiritual journey, his calling to ministry, and his aspirations for the future of the church. You can follow Fr. Kenneth on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. You can visit his blog on Clarion: Journal of Spirituality and Justice. To engage with this subject further, please join our Mess...
2020-01-1958 min
The Reckless Pursuit099 - Experiencing the True Love of God (With Jason Elam)Experiencing the love of Jesus isn’t always what we claim it is in church. It’s not a worship service, a fuzzy feeling, or a strung together set of songs. Experiencing the true love of God goes deeper and is intensely more personal.
This week, we are talking with Jason Elam, host of the Messy Spirituality podcast about his journey through deconstruction after spending years as a pastor, missionary, and evangelist. Jason was “that guy” who other pastors called in to straighten out a church that was asking too many questions. But one day he had an encounter with a God he...
2020-01-1300 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 31: The Church We Dream Of Part 1 with Eden JersakWe all know the dark side of modern church life. Many have been hurt by it and have disengaged from it altogether. In episode 31, we are kicking off a new series on what the church can be. I'm speaking with some deep thinkers and theologians about the church they dream of and discussing how we can get there from here. For the first episode of this series, I spoke to Eden Jersak. Eden is an author, speaker, and former church planter. She is a mother of three men and Grammie to one sweet granddaughter. She enjoys traveling with her husband, a...
2020-01-1243 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 30: Encountering the God of Unending Love with William Paul YoungIt was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with "The Shack" author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we're terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe about God.You can purchase Paul's incredible books "The Shack", "Crossroads", "Eve", and his latest, "Lies We Believe About God" here.Visit Paul's website here.You can follow Paul's work on Facebook and Instagram.If you haven’t...
2020-01-0159 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 29: Exploring the Heights and Depths of God's Uncontrolling Love with Thomas Jay OordThis episode of the podcast features author and theologian Thomas Jay Oord.In this interview, we discuss his spiritual journey, his first exposure to God's uncontrolling love, and the ramifications of a deity who refuses to control us and those around us. This is a theologically rich and thought provoking conversation full of meaning that sets us up perfectly to launch into a new year full of new opportunities to experience God's uncontrolling love.You can purchase Tom's incredible book, God Can't, here.You can learn more about Thomas Jay Oord on his...
2019-12-2746 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 28: Finding My Voice with Laura ForehandWe have just released episode 28 of the podcast featuring teacher and podcaster Laura Forehand. Laura is a second grade teacher in Tarkio, Missouri. She has three amazing grown children and two beautiful grandchildren. She was a pastor's wife for 20 years, up until she and her husband both went through different journeys of deconstruction. She practices and teaches a type of classroom management called Whole Brain Teaching. Through her deconstruction, Laura has shed the vision of the God she thought she knew and, through the birth of her grandchildren, is finding a more beautiful picture of the Divine. I speak with...
2019-12-2046 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 27: "Saying No to God?" featuring Matthew KorpmanEpisode 27 features author and theologian Matthew J. Korpman discussing a radical new way of reading the Bible. Matthew is a rising biblical scholar, itinerant preacher, and theological arsonist. Currently pursuing his Master of Arts in Religion at Yale Divinity School, he holds four bachelor degrees in Theology, Archaeology, Philosophy, and Screenwriting. He has traveled and excavated in Israel and Jordan, and is proud to call San Diego, California his home. Whether you agree with all of his conclusions or not, you will gain valuable tools for learning to think critically about the scriptures. Order Matthew's groundbreaking new book "Saying No t...
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The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 26: "Finding Sanctuary Within" with Meg CalvinIn this episode I speak to author and podcaster Meg Calvin about her faith journey, learning to recognize one's own voice, finding peace within, and more. Meg's wonderful book, "I Am My Own Sanctuary: How a Recovering Holy-Roller Found Healing and Power" is available this Friday by clicking here. You can get more info on Meg and her book on her website. Meg is a co-host of The Listening Chair Podcast which you can find here. You can follow Meg on Facebook and Instagram. If you haven't already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. We’d love f...
2019-12-0641 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 25: The Redheaded Ragamuffin with Michele SnyderEpisode 25 featuring Michele Snyder. Michele is the host of "The Redheaded Ragamuffin" podcast. We talk about Michele's history of escaping fundamentalism and learning to see God as a loving Father. You can find Michele's website here.You can listen to Michele's podcast here. Recent episodes feature bestselling authors Mary Demuth and Thomas Jay Oord. Subscribe to this podcast so you don't miss an episode!You can follow Michele on Facebook and Twitter.If you haven't already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well.We’d love...
2019-12-0141 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 24: The God in My Closet with Ben DeLongIn this episode I talk to Nazarene pastor and "There's a God in My Closet" author, Ben DeLong. We talk about healing our destructive ideas about God and the damage they've done. You can learn more about Ben and his work on his website here. Purchase a copy of Ben's powerful book here. You can follow Ben on Facebook and Twitter. Check out Ben's great podcast "There's a God in My Closet" on Podbean. If you haven't already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our priva...
2019-11-2526 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastMessy Conversations 002: A Love Stronger Than Hell with Keith GilesFor episode two of our new raw and uncut series "Messy Conversations", I spoke to my friend "Jesus Undefeated" author Keith Giles. We talk about the three dominant afterlife doctrines of the early church, Keith's own evolving views, why it matters what we believe about the afterlife, and how Keith handles very public (and often, mean-spirited) criticism. Keith is a co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Check out Keith's blog here. Keith writes incredible books that challenge, educate, and inspire us to follow Jesus more closely. I highly recommend Jesus Untangled, Jesus Unbound, Jesus Unveiled, and his latest (and poss...
2019-11-2257 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastMessy Conversations 001: Leaving Church with Laura and Karl ForehandSomething brand new for you today...For awhile now, I've wanted to go back and reengage with some of the early guests of The Messy Spirituality Podcast to discuss what has been happening with them post deconstruction. So I decided to start a new series of raw and unedited conversations that I'm calling Messy Conversations in addition to the original podcast.This is the first episode of that effort. My first guests on this brand new series are Laura and Karl Forehand. Laura is a 2nd grade teacher, grandmother, and all around wonderful hu...
2019-11-2044 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 23: Reckless Faith with Elaine and Cody JohnstonOn this episode we're joined by young business owners and podcasters Cody and Elaine Johnston. We discuss each of their spiritual journeys, how they met, entrepreneurship, their three podcasts, and much more. You're going to love these two! Visit Elaine and Cody's website here. You can follow Elaine's blog here. You can follow The Prodigal Daughter on Facebook. You can follow The Reckless Pursuit on Facebook and Instagram. Check out their fantastic podcasts The Prodigal Daughter, Itinerant, and The Reckless Pursuit wherever you listen to podcasts. Cody and Elaine host an online community on Facebook called NOMADS. You can check it...
2019-11-1838 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 22: A Tale of Two Turneys Part 2-Open Table with Nat TurneyOur guest this week is musician, worship leader, and pastor Nat Turney. Nat Turney serves as lead pastor of Open Table Fellowship church in San Angelo, Tx where he resides with his wife of 28 years, Kimberly. He is the father of four grown children and a Papa to two amazing grandsons. Nat is passionate about people and is dedicated to proclaiming the good news that God is revealed fully and finally in the person of Jesus. You can follow Nat on Facebook. You can follow Open Table Fellowship on Facebook and Instagram. While you're there, why not follow The Messy Spir...
2019-11-0151 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 21: A Tale of Two Turneys Part One-The Unpastor with Jon TurneyMy guest in this episode is musician, worship leader, and "unpastor" Jon Turney. We talk about Jon's upbringing in the Foursquare church, why he left the church, and the freak accident that led him back to faith. Don't miss part two of this series featuring Jon's brother, Nat Turney, next week!You can follow Jon's posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.While you're there, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well.We'd love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of t...
2019-10-2754 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 20: Holy Spirit with Andrew ParksThis episode of the podcast features writer and theologian Andrew Parks sharing his personal experience with the Person and work of the Holy Spirit. Does Holy Spirit fill only those who meet certain requirements? What is the purpose of this filling? What is the role of Holy Spirit in our lives? Is there a certain sign that we've been filled by the Spirit? We examine all of these questions and much more in this episode. Check out Andrew's blog here. You can follow Andrew on Facebook and Twitter. While you’re there, you can follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagr...
2019-10-0750 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 19: Why Reconstruction Matters with Keith GilesWelcome to Episode 19 of The Messy Spirituality Podcast: Why Reconstruction Matters featuring "Jesus Unveiled" Author and Heretic Happy Hour podcast co-host Keith Giles. As a companion resource to this episode, please check out Keith's Patheos blog post on 4 Essential Elements of Reconstruction. I highly recommend Keith's excellent book, "Jesus Unveiled: Forsaking Church As We Know It For Ekklesia as God Intended". Also, please check out Keith's brand new course on reconstruction Back to Square One which launches on September 30th, 2019. I'd love for you to join me (Jason) on this journey of reconstruction!You can follow Keith on Facebook and Twi...
2019-09-2536 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 18: Staying in Church After Deconstruction with Doug StewartIn this episode, I talk to TedX Presenter and Dale Carnagie Instructor Doug Stewart about his journey to a healthier faith and why he maintains his relationship with the church post deconstruction.Doug is the host of the thought provoking "I Am Not Your Pastor" podcast. Check it out wherever you listen to podcasts.Check out Doug's website here and follow him on Facebook and Instagram.While you're there, you can follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram as well.Please consider helping us continue to put out great content by...
2019-09-2340 min
The Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 17: Experiencing Christ in Everyone with Dallas VerityThis episode features theologian and podcaster Dallas Verity discussing his fascinating life and learning to experience Christ in the most unlikely places.Dallas is a co-host of the Shipwreck Over Safety podcast which I highly recommend!You can connect with Dallas on Facebook and Instagram.You can follow The Messy Spirituality Podcast on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.Please consider helping us continue this labor love by becoming a beloved patron over on Patreon. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-09-161h 02
The Messy Spirituality PodcastSpecial Episode: When You Feel Like You Can't Go On with Steve AustinIn the wake of the passing of Christian pastor and author Jarrid Wilson by suicide at age 30, I reached out to my friend, author, and self care expert Steve Austin to share with us about his own suicide attempt and his journey back to life. The result was a powerful 30 minute conversation that we're releasing today as a special episode of the podcast. With the Wilson family's permission, author Jonathan Merritt has started a Go Fund Me page to raise financial support for Juli Wilson and her two small sons. Please contribute here if you're able.You can visit Steve A...
2019-09-1133 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 16: Growing Things Change with Bob HutchinsIn this episode, I talk to author, podcaster, ordained minister, and social media marketing master, Bob Hutchins, about his faith journey, the dark side of the faith based film industry, Enneagram, and overcoming cynicism.If you haven't already, you should really check out Bob's excellent podcast-Rumors of Grace wherever you listen to podcasts. It's one of my favorites.You can follow Bob on Facebook and Instagram.You can also follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram.We'd love to have your support on Patreon. Hosted on Acast. See acast...
2019-08-2849 min
The Human Voice with Bob HutchinsEpisode 25- Jason ElamJason Elam is a grateful husband, proud dad, and is captivated by Jesus. After more than 20 years of local church ministry, Jason currently hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast and is the author of the forthcoming book, Bartenders of Grace-sharing the life and love of Jesus after deconstruction, scheduled for release in December 2019. I talk to Jason about his life as a professional wrestler, church, family, and how his faith looks very different today than it has in the past.
2019-08-1057 minThe Human Voice with Bob HutchinsEpisode 25- Jason ElamJason Elam is a grateful husband, proud dad, and is captivated by Jesus. After more than 20 years of local church ministry, Jason currently hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast and is the author of the forthcoming book, Bartenders of Grace-sharing the life and love of Jesus after deconstruction, scheduled for release in December 2019. I talk to Jason about his life as a professional wrestler, church, family, and how his faith looks very different today than it has in the past.
2019-08-1057 min
The Human Voice with Bob HutchinsEpisode 25- Jason ElamJason Elam is a grateful husband, proud dad, and is captivated by Jesus. After more than 20 years of local church ministry, Jason currently hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast and is the author of the forthcoming book, Bartenders of Grace-sharing the life and love of Jesus after deconstruction, scheduled for release in December 2019. I talk to Jason about his life as a professional wrestler, church, family, and how his faith looks very different today than it has in the past. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers...
2019-08-1057 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 15: Prodigals Like Us with Beau Hoffman and Andrew ParksIn this episode, I sit down for a round table conversation with Andrew Parks and Beau Hoffman discussing the nature of God as revealed in Jesus' parable of the prodigal son. Andrew Parks is a writer and entrepreneur. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Beau Hoffman is an attorney, and theologian. You can find him on Facebook and Instagram. You can interact with The Messy Spirituality Podcast on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Please rate and review the show on your podcast platform of choice. Thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-07-3152 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 14: Rethinking Heresy with Eric HowellIn this brief episode, "The Podcast Doctor" Eric Howell shares his journey of moving from fear of hell to faith in God's love.You can find Eric and The Podcast Doctor on Facebook.You can follow The Messy Spirituality Podcast on Facebook or visit our website here.You can also support us on Patreon.Thanks for listening! Please subscribe, rate, and review the show on your podcast platform of choice. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-07-2208 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 13: Displacing Fear With Love with Jason ElamAnd now, for something completely different...In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about "hell", and more. Jason Elam is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi's grateful husband and proud dad of four awesome kids. He currently serves as a community organizer at The Hope Center near Birmingham, Alabama.You can follow The Messy Spirituality Podcast on Facebook and support us on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/p...
2019-07-1531 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 12: Finding My Voice with Hannah JohnsonIn this episode we talk to worship leader, blogger, and social work student, Hannah Johnson, about her faith journey as a preacher's kid, life in the fishbowl, how going to ministry school at one of the fastest growing churches in America turned out differently than she had expected, and how she started to discover her own voice. It's a great conversation and I'm excited for you to hear it!You can follow Hannah's written work here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-07-0829 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 11: Love Heretic with Wendy FranciscoOur guest this week is the wonderfully transparent Wendy Francisco.As a singer and songwriter, Wendy has traveled the world performing concerts and, for many years, was very much a part of American evangelical culture. As she began to question long-held beliefs, she shared what she was learning and a community grew around her new found freedom. Wendy is the founder of the "Love Heretic" group on Facebook. You can check that out here.A bit of trivia: Just prior to recording this interview, I was blown away to learn that Wendy is the incredible...
2019-07-0140 minThe Messy Spirituality PodcastEpisode 02:Living for a Living with Jamal JivanjeeIn this episode, Jason speaks with author, podcaster, and life coach Jamal Jivanjee about moving from an economy of scarcity to an economy of love. You can purchase Jamal's excellent book, Living for a Living, on Amazon.This episode was engineered by Eric Howell. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-04-2945 min