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Change CycleWhy Sustainability Tension Management Is Every Leader’s Competitive Edge With Steve Rochlin And Jeff SenneSustainability tension management is the secret edge of companies that thrive under pressure. Steve Rochlin and Jeff Senne—seasoned strategists and co-authors of a foundational report on sustainability strategy—unpack how high-performing organizations navigate the push and pull between short-term wins and long-term value. With host Christine Yeager, this candid conversation dives into CEO mindset archetypes, real business performance data, and how to align incentives without diluting purpose. From boardroom skepticism to strategic breakthrough, this is a masterclass in turning tension into transformation.2025-07-0141 min
Renewable RidesEp 75: Mastering the Discipline of Tension Management to Achieve The Best Corporate Sustainability Outcomes - Insights from Corporate ESG ExpertsSustainability isn’t just a corporate buzzword—it’s a critical business strategy. But as companies face increasing pressure from stakeholders, regulators, and the market, how can they effectively balance impact with profitability? In this episode, we sit down with Steve Rochlin and Jeff Senne, co-authors of Sustainability Tension Management: How Companies Can Thrive in the Era of Impact and Backlash, to explore how businesses can navigate the complexities of sustainability while driving real results.Jeff and Steve break down the shift from “shared value” to “scared value,” the importance of impact measurement, and why sustainability has moved beyond c...2025-02-111h 13
Making Waves On PurposeThe ROI of Sustainability with Jim HannaJim Hanna has held corporate sustainability roles with Xanterra and Starbucks and is currently at Microsoft and working with Fractal CSOs. He is a great guy with a ton of useful insights. However, one area that he focuses on relentlessly is making the business case. While for many, that is a complex process, he nails it with simple questions: What keeps your leaders up at night, and what are they incentivized on? If you can find a way to connect sustainability to those things, you are 90% of the way there. Great conversation. Pl...2024-08-1920 minMaking Waves On PurposeThe Edges of Sustainability Jeff Senne and Jill Dumain in Conversation56% of people beleive that capitalism does more harm than good. 70% of Americans would not help a neighbor of a different political party. What is the role of business in an increasingly polarized world? Climate, DEI, and nature are critically important issues, but so too are the institutions that support human flourishing and getting those right, and given the trusted role business has, it needs to become more comfortable in helping advance pluralism, shared value and values, advancing integrity and a balanced multi-purpose capitalism that seeks to serve shareholders, the state and stakeholders. In this rich d...2024-07-2533 minMaking Waves On PurposeThe Role of Interpreter with Lena Pripp-KovacA rich discussion with Lena Pripp-Kovac, former Chief Sustainability Officer (CSO) for Ikea. I love the idea she presents of the CSO as an interpreter. Lena said, “During my journey in sustainability, it has become clear that one of the key roles in leading change is that of being an interpreter. I am fortunate and thankful for the many amazing people who have shared their experiences to better understand challenges from different perspectives. While translators focus on creating understanding between languages, the interpreter focuses on insight into contextual meaning, including strategic, practical and cultural purpose.” Enjoy!2024-06-2719 minMaking Waves On PurposeMotivating Change With Gabriel GrantGabriel Grant is someone whose work you should know about. Over the past fifteen years, he has provided coaching and training for more than one thousand purpose-led leaders and world-class change agents, including founders and board members, and c-suite executives and directors from more than 150 major brands. I am fascinated by his thinking on what makes companies tick, especially his ideas around "The Self-determined Organization—Toward a Humanistic Theory of the Firm," which is a book he is working on. I think the idea of applying individual flourishing to organizations is fascinating and critical. His...2024-06-1342 minMaking Waves On PurposeIn Conversation With Jill Dumain of Fractal CSOsIn conversation with Jill Dumain of Fractal CSOs. Jill offers this: What a fun opportunity to look back on some of the many experiences that I have had that led me to this place. So many people to thank who have mentored and partnered with me with some of the craziest of ideas. But now I can see how all the individual experiences add up to this new position. I feel as though I am in a good position to give back and help others avoid so many of the holes that I stepped in th...2024-05-3029 minMaking Waves On PurposeIntroducing Fractal CSOs In this episode of Making Waves on Purpose, I am in conversation with Jill Dumain, Lena Pripp Kovac, Chad Dorgan and Jim Hanna, all partners, together with me, Jeff Senne, in Fractal CSOs. Fractal CSOs is a network of practitioners that coach companies and organizations of all shapes and sizes across various industries to move forward faster and stay on the path, whether you’re just getting started in your sustainability journey or are already well on your way. While no one has seen it all, with over 150 years in the space, we have seen a lot...2024-05-0723 minMaking Waves On PurposePurpose as a lever of change with Bradon PeeleOne of the hats I wear is as the volunteer Team Guardian for Global Purpose Leaders (GPL). This is a close-knit group of purpose practitioners that work on individual, organizational and societal change. In this podcast, I speak with Brandon Peele. Brandon has been a driving force in GPL for years and in the purpose space even longer. He has a deep understanding of the space, its practice and its promise. This is a must-listen for those who work to find purpose, make their businesses sustainable or are just curious about purpose. This is one for a...2024-05-0737 minMaking Waves On PurposeCelebrating Small Wins with Kyle SantosKyle Santos joined me in a great conversation on various issues and a focus on something that we in the corporate responsibility space often get wrong - celebrating small wins. Hi rightly points out that given the gravity of what we seek to address, climate change, inequality, ecosystem restoration...small steps often feel not worth celebrating. This is likely to get worse as a result of the ESG backlash and companies going quiet on their progress. We also touched on measuring versus doing, interesting tensions in the space, and much more. I am so grateful to...2024-04-2624 min
Making Waves On PurposeThe Action of ESG with Grady LeeI have been super busy with clients and travel, so my podcast frequency has suffered. But I am picking up steam again, and this is an excellent conversation with Grady Lee. Grady is the Co-Founder of Give to Get, which engages companies in bringing their purpose to life, and Social Marks, which works to create definitions around action-based metrics on the social side of ESG. His focus is on actions, strategies, and decisions that help move the company ahead in its effort to drive impact and live its purpose. He works to gather and organize data help...2024-02-2328 min
The ESG ExperienceNavigating ESG turbulence: Strategies for corporate responsibility ft. Jeff SenneIn this episode, Helee Lev and Ryan Nelson are joined by Jeff Senne, the Founder & CEO of Sandbar Solutions, to discuss the corporate responsibility teams and boardrooms amidst the backlash surrounding ESG initiatives, the imperative to reconsider and redefine the roles of government and individuals in propelling ESG agendas, and the formidable challenges confronting global corporations as they implement a unified global purpose, values, and principles.2024-02-1448 min
P'tits Zgegs, Grande DiscothèqueS3E9 - Le groupe pref de ton groupe prefSpoiler alert: mise en abîme de ouf. Pars avec nous à la découverte de gros classiques qui se cachent derrière des gros classiques. 3 des groupes favoris de tes groupes favoris que tu ne connais peut-être pas. 3 albums qui ne sont pas toujours dans panthéon du rock, mais bien dans le panthéon des rockeurs. Tu suis? Beh c'est parti.Les albums dont on parle:Helmet - Meantime (1992, Interscope)Wire - Chairs Missing (1978, pinkflag)MC5 - High Time (1971, Atlantic)La bière : Zinnebier de la brasserie de la Senne.On parle au...2024-01-291h 09
Making Waves On PurposeChoose meaning over pleasure with Sharoni RosenbergIn this my first podcast of the year, I am in conversation with Sharoni Rosenberg. Sharoni is a leader, maybe “the leader” in the purpose space in Chile. She and I met when we both worked at PwC, and she ran PwC Chile’s purpose and ESG work. She is a courageous leader, passionate about personal and organizational purpose and committed to advancing the role of business in society. Last year, I was a guest speaker at one of her events in Santiago, Chile, and was so impressed with her program and how Chile had change...2024-01-1622 min
Making Waves On PurposeThe Purpose of Business with Daryl BrewsterIn this episode of Making Waves on Purpose, I am joined by Daryl Brewster, the CEO of CECP. With over 200 affiliated companies, CECP is at the forefront of a number of ESG / corporate responsibility issues and approaches. And Daryl and his team bring a very successful business-centric approach, given their previous roles in the private sector. Daryl and I discuss a wide range of issues, including how CECP is supporting companies as they wrestle with geopolitical/regional ESG issues, the political divide in the US and the blowback that some companies are experiencing from their ESG efforts. ...2023-11-2829 min
Making Waves On PurposeDEI in Israel with Momo MahadavI skipped the queue for this episode which I recorded last week with Momo Mahadav from Maala, The Israeli Business for Social Responsibility organization. I have known Momo for many years and admire him and his work, and that work has taken on a new importance in the last month. Momo shares how companies' efforts in building DEI programs and understanding have helped them during this tragic and difficult time. We kept the conservation focused on the work rather than the conflict, but it is hard not to have in the back of one's mind kn...2023-11-0618 min
Making Waves On PurposeStranded Assets with Gregory UnruhOn this episode of Making Waves on Purpose, I am joined by Gregory Unruh. I have known Greg for 20 years, and during that time, he has always impressed me with his take on corporate responsibility and sustainability. And this conversation was further confirmation of his insight and unique viewpoint. We talk about a wide range of subjects, including standard assets, changing the rules of the game, innovation, integrated thinking and leadership. This is a deep dive into the problems we face and why they are so hard to solve. A fanstiatic discussion. As always, please like, subscribe a...2023-11-0626 min
Making Waves On PurposeBeyond the Business Case with Andrew WinstonIn this Making Waves on Purpose episode, Andrew Winston talks about going beyond the business case. While ESG, CR, and sustainability efforts have always demanded a business case, I have been thinking of what my friend Michael Spenley said to me some 15 years ago: “Don’t over-rely on the business case; sometimes it is not there, and we still need to act.” ESG, in its original form, is all about finding investor value. And while it feels like some believe that the arrival of ESG has implied the business case is resolved, quite the opposite is true...2023-10-2422 min
Making Waves On Purpose"Tell me more about that" with Lisa HrablukIn this episode of Making Waves on Purpose, I speak to Lisa Hrabluk. I connected with Lisa via my good friend Christy Cook. Lisa leads Wicked Ideas, a consultancy focused on solving complex problems and the power issues surrounding them. She has a fantastic background, a super sharp mind and a fabulous ability to communicate complex ideas in understandable ways. We discussed power, status quo, changing paradigms as we move from the Industrial age to the Knowledge age, belonging, and place. I love how Lisa embraces complexity. In so many parts of our lives and work, we...2023-10-1123 min
Making Waves On PurposeTurning the Tables with Jennifer DavisThis podcast is the first episode of season two of Making Waves on Purpose. In it, Jennifer Davis, of the Jennifer Davis Media Group, turns the tables and leads the two of us in conversation. It was a fabulous and fun conversation and outlines much of the thinking I will flesh out in season two. I am so grateful to all the guests who joined season one: Georg Kell Lane Jost Celina Gorre Craig Beatty Dylan Siegler Josh Henretig Rafael Velasquez Garcia 2023-09-2527 min
Making Waves On PurposeTechnology, jobs and the limits of professional identity with Jared ChungJared Chung is a name you should know. Jared is the Founder of CareerVillage.org a technology nonprofit that crowdsources career advice for youth at a massive scale. They engage an online volunteer corps of tens of thousands of working professionals in building a huge online repository of answers to every career question you can imagine. Like Donors Choose, and Khan Academy, Career Village is an impressive non-profit that serves a need by leveraging technology and unique insights into what it takes to engage and animate users on both sides of the conversation. Amazingly, Career Village has a 99% answer r...2023-08-2919 min
Making Waves On PurposeVoluntary Carbon Markets with Olivia Albrecht Olivia Albrecht is CEO at Aspiration, a climate finance and solutions company. While carbon offsets are a controversial topic, if we are to hold companies' feet to the fire on scope 3 emissions, they need to have all the tools available to them, including offsets. It is simply not conceivable that we can meet the need without them. Responsible offsets also drive a wide number of co-benefits, but they need to come after significant reductions and changed business models and must be additional, high quality, long term, and verifiable… and they won't come cheap, nor should they. This conve...2023-08-1422 min
Making Waves On PurposeThrough the looking glass with Nandika MagdavgarIn this episode, I am joined by Nanadika Madgakar, the Senior Director for Strategy and Growth for CECP. Nandika has years of experience in ESG, corporate responsibility and purpose, having worked for companies and non-profits. She also worked as a journalist in India. Her work with CECP and the CEO Investor Forum has given her a front-row seat to how company leaders and their teams are working on Integrated Long-Term Plans including key forward-looking metrics specifically focused on their company’s future growth, strategy, and risk. 2023-07-3120 min
Making Waves On PurposeGetting it wrong with Erika McMullenI have been amazed and grateful for how many great thinkers in the space have come on the podcast and openly shared with me. It has been a real privilege and this conversation with Erika McMullen the CEO of Moxie Consulting Group proves the point. We discuss DEI, cancel culture, engaging the majority and more. I was especially grateful for her open sharing of times when she got it wrong. With so much cancel culture coming from the right and left, many are paralyzed with fear of saying or doing the wrong thing. This inhibits the change...2023-07-2719 min
Making Waves On PurposeCrucilbe moments with Bree FramIn this episode, I am in conversation with Bree Fram, Lt Col of the US Space Force. Bree is one of the highest-ranking transgender members of the military. I recently met her at the CECP summit in Boston and we struck up a conversation which we continued on the podcast. In my opinion, one of the biggest problems we face in the world is “othering." We are tribalizing our local, national, and global cultures and sub-cultures not as a means of fostering belonging but as a means of isolating and "othering." This inhibits our ability to advance on...2023-07-1718 min
All About BeerAAB 024: Spontaneous Fermentation in BeerSpontaneous fermentation may be the most unique brewing technique in the world and the beers they produce are just as interesting, with many flavors not seen outside these styles. But “spontaneous” doesn't really tell you anything about what goes into making lambic, gueuze and American made versions from insane boiling hours to months and years waiting to see if the beer is actually any good to sell. Today we talk to two producers: one a classic lambic house from the Senne River Valley and the brewery that defined American sour brewing.Werner Van Obberghen is one of the...2023-07-131h 27
Making Waves On PurposeDoing the work with Neil EdwardsNeil Edwards of https://www.neiledwardscoaching.com, works at that intersection of personal and organizational purpose, values, and optimizing potential. He believes that both organizations and individuals need to focus on building trust & creating the future, which requires profound intimacy. I have always been impressed by Neil. I find him thoughtful, calm, insightful, and just a really interesting person. I am sure you will feel the same. We discuss polarization, inclusion, choices, conversation, common interests, and much more. 2023-06-2918 min
Making Waves On PurposePeace building with Mandar ApteLots has changed for me in the last year and a half. Most profoundly, I began to meditate and it has been a revelation. Mandar Apte found meditation nearly 20 years ago and committed his life since then to teach meditation practice and support others on their transformational journeys including over 2000 executives at Shell, where he worked. Since leaving Shell he has integrated this inner development work during workshops for corporate clients helping them on their purpose journeys, as well as to community leaders, former gang members, and police officers to become better peacebuilders. For more about his...2023-06-1615 min
Making Waves On PurposeMaking work more meaningful with Bea BoccalandroBea Boccalandro is special. She has the energy, enthusiasm, and intellect to tackle big problems and has recently focused on job purposing. She published a book on the topic, Do Good At Work, and recently spoke at a TED event. I recommend both as she has a knack for taking ideas and making them practical and ring true with the real-world experience many have at work. A great conversation with a great human being! 2023-05-2523 min
Making Waves On PurposeRed companies and blue companies, oh my with Zeev KleinZeev is the CEO and Co-founder of Landmark Ventures. I worked with Zeev and his team for many years while I was at PwC and they are really quite amazing. 5 or 6 years ago Zeev and I were talking about the evolution of corporate responsibility (insert whatever term you like best here) and he said that he thought this was all going to where we would have red companies and blue companies. He was right, and when Disney and Bud Light came under fire for being part of the "woke mob" I knew I had to bring him o...2023-05-1019 min
Making Waves On PurposeGovernance, the unsung hero of ESG with Gib Hedstrom"You have to lead with governance," says Gib Hedstrom. How are we going to create value? How do we truly integrate ESG into our purpose? How do we integrate ESG into our operations and culture? These are some of the meaty questions we dig into on in this episode. Gib Hedstrom has been working in the space for many years and works with a wide variety of companies in advancing their business impact goals. His work on ESG Navigator has given him a front-row seat on how companies are designing strategies to reap and provide v...2023-05-0419 min
Making Waves On PurposeGovernance, the unsung hero of ESG with Gib Hedstrom"You have to lead with governance. How are we going to create value? How do we truly integrate ESG into our purpose? How do we integrate ESG into our operations and culture?" These are some of the meaty questions we dig into on in this episode. Gib Hedstrom has been working in the space for many years and works with a wide variety of companies in advancing their business impact goals. His work on ESG Navigator has given him a front-row seat in how companies are designing strategies to reap and provide value. 2023-05-0319 min
Making Waves On PurposeDEI and the Golden Rule with Dawnita Wilson"We have to get to a place where we care as much about how things impact others as we care about how it impacts us." Dawnita Wilson Please read that again and let it sink in ............ Isn't that the whole nut? If we can move to this mindset, doesn't that give us one of the missing skills to figure out the rest? It seems like this improved version of the golden rule - do unto others as they would like, rather than you would like, is a good way to enter into thinking a...2023-04-2116 min
Making Waves On PurposeMigration, Mexico and the last mile with Rafael Velasquez GarciaESG involves a whole range of geopolitical, international development, and stakeholder and shareholder expectations. For example, migration can be a great positive for countries and businesses but also a real challenge. This is especially true as globalism is under attack and nationalism is on the rise. In this conversation with Rafael Velasquez Garcia from the International Rescue Committee, we discussed his role and the issues being faced in Mexico as a result of migration. Raf is a good friend. We met at the United Nations University for Peace, where we both got Masters in international Peace studies...2023-03-2716 min
Making Waves On PurposeClimate Intelligence with Josh HenretigDetermining ways businesses can help solve the climate crisis is tricky and requires collaboration, data, and deep analysis. This is exactly what the team at RMI that Josh leads is doing. Josh is a Managing Director at RMI, leading the Climate Intelligence Program, which focuses on applying data and technology to differentiate climate performance across material and energy industries and their associated value chains. The Climate Intelligence team works to enhance emissions visibility via open-source data platforms; advance carbon accounting systems that attribute emissions at various levels (corporate, facility, asset, product, etc.); establish and/or harmonize standards a...2023-03-2719 min
Making Waves On PurposeGreenBiz, the curators of change with Dylan SieglerDylan Siegler is the SVP and Senior Analyst at Greenbiz. has spent nearly two decades building better environmental and social impacts in the nonprofit and public sectors and the Fortune 500. Prior to GreenBiz, she was a lead strategist on the social innovation team at Verizon. We had a great conversation about the recent GreenBiz conference and where Greenbiz is going. I see GreenBiz as more than a media and events company and more like playing a curator role. Of course, they are a for-profit company, but this is where I see their growth aligned to the growth o...2023-03-2017 min
Beer Sessions Radio (TM)Thoughtful Beer Writers: Jeff Cioletti and Kate BernotBSR always strives to shine a light on people moving the Beer World forward. Writers and editors are often the most thoughtful, impactful people in the worlds of beer, spirits, and hospitality, and we have two great ones on the show this week.Joining Jimmy is Jeff Cioletti, author of Imbibing for Introverts, and editor in chief of Craft Spirits Magazine; and Kate Bernot, Missoula, Montana-based reporter on beer, alcohol, and food, and director of the North American Guild of Beer Writers.This show came together to highlight Jeff’s new book, and more broadly to...2023-03-181h 00
Making Waves On PurposeForests and the future with Craig BeattyCraig Beatty is the manager of the forest strategy and research at WWF-US. In this position, he provides technical and scientific leadership to the organization’s major forest initiatives. His work includes helping lead the development of a corporate framework for setting science-based targets for nature; creating methods and tools to estimate conservation and restoration impact; and exploring the role forests play in human health. I am a huge believer in the need to protect forests. First, the value they provide humans is enormous. But, I am also very troubled by the fact that we as a sp...2023-03-1217 min
Making Waves On PurposeWomen's health and the importance of trust with Celina GorreCelina Gorre is the CEO of WomenHeart: The National Coalition for Women with Heart Disease. She has had an amazing career that spans public health and corporate responsibility working for the private sector, multi-lateral development institutions, and non-profits. We talk about women's health, misconceptions that affect it, DEI, and a variety of other issues. 2023-02-1215 min
Making Waves On PurposeScope 1,2,3 and making sense of materiality with Lane JostLane Jost is the Head of ESG for Edelman US and has an amazingly bright mind, is super articulate, and blends a leader's and practitioner's view of ESG in a way few can. We dig in on carbon emissions, scope 3, and greenwashing, among other topics. 2023-02-1217 min
Making Waves On PurposeGeopolitics, tech and ESG with Georg KellGeorg Kell is one of the brightest minds in the ESG/CR space. He was the Executive Director and primary creative force behind the United Nations Global Compact and is now the Chairman of Arabesque - a global group of financial technology companies offering sustainable investment, advisory, and data services through our advanced ESG and AI capabilities. Our conversations most often pivot to thinking about CR / ESG in the context of the global world political and economic order. Georg has a unique view on both born from an amazing career, a keen mind, and an unparalleled ability to condense...2023-02-1114 minMaking Waves On PurposeMaking Waves on Purpose TrailerLearning to live your purpose and manage change might be the most important skill for organizations and individuals. Join host Jeff Senne, Purpose / ESG and Corporate Change Expert, CEO of Sandbar Solutions and adventurer in conversations that explore how companies and individuals can drive change and make an impact for themselves and the world they work in. 2023-02-0104 min
The Engage For Good Podcast with Alli MurphyPwC’s $125 Million Commitment To Support A More Equitable FutureIt’s a brave new world for corporate social impact professionals as companies adapt and pivot their programs to focus on true and lasting impact.In this episode of Cause Talk Radio, Alli and Megan are joined by Jeff Senne, Responsible Business Leader at PwC, to discuss a new initiative called “Access Your Potential” and the company’s $125 million commitment to support a more equitable future for 25,000 black and Latinx college students.Jeff shares that this program is more of an evolution on social impact work the company has done over the past five years and desc...2021-04-2825 min
Pro Bono PerspectivesMake Equity a Business PriorityPwC has been recognized time and again for its responsible business practices and its organizational culture. Host Danielle Holly interviews PwC Responsible Business Leader Jeff Senne, a key leader in PwC’s shift from corporate responsibility to responsible business leadership who speaks to PwC’s business imperative to create a more equitable society.
To learn more about Responsible Business Leadership at PwC, visit pwc.com/us/en/about-us/corporate-responsibility.html.2020-02-2537 min
Pro Bono PerspectivesWelcome to Season 2 of Pro Bono PerspectivesDanielle Holly kicks off season 2 with a call to turn our aspirations into plans and impact. She introduces the first guest of the season, MENTOR CEO David Shapiro, and other upcoming guests who are changing lives for the better, including PwC Responsible Business Leader Jeff Senne and VeraWorks President & Founder and job purposing pioneer Bea Boccalandro.2020-01-1405 min
Beervana PodcastPod 88: Belgium Rediscovers Its RootsJeff returns from Europe with fantastic and wonderful tales. In today's pod, he describes how Belgian brewers have reacted to the craft beer incursion--by rediscovering their ancient heritage. He discusses the importance of Brasserie de la Senne in this process, and describes the young brewers at Verzet who are reviving oud bruin. All that, and the regular features.2019-10-191h 11
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02. Alex Gray & Silvio Carrano - Pleasure From The Beats (Silvio Carrano Bigroom Extended Mix)
03. Firebeatz & Schella - Wicked
04. Joachim Garraud - Scandale (Benjamin C. Remix)
05. Senne - Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll
06. Nick Waters, Automann & David Hopperman - Kind Of Trashy
07. Chuckie & Junxterjack - Make Some Noise (Laidback Luke Remix)
08. Jeff Doubleu & Skitzofrenix - Hear That
09. Zomboy - WTF!?
10. Sebjak & David Tort Vs. Mike Hawkins Vs. Breach - Jack Raveline Soldiers (AAXO Mashup)
11. Marco V & Robin Riccio vs. Holl & Rush - Pegasus
12. Dj Chuckie - Toys Are Nuts
13. Live City - Slingshot
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