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Notice ThatNeurofeedback + EMDR: A Conversation with Leigh PoviaIn this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with neurofeedback expert Leigh Povia, LCSW, RPT, BCN, founder of Center for Dynamic Growth, to explore how neurofeedback can strengthen, support, and accelerate trauma therapy.Together, they discuss:What neurofeedback actually is—beyond the buzzwordsHow brainwave training mirrors internal states and supports regulationWhy neurofeedback can open doors when EMDR alone feels “stuck”How clinicians can partner with neurofeedback providersThe developmental trauma connection: attachment, arousal, and brain-based interventionsA powerful case example of a child whose system finally found calmPractical uses for neurofeedback in resourcing, closure, and state...
2025-12-0254 minNotice ThatBonus Episode! Conference Recap… A Bit LateJen and Bridger finally sit down to share stories and reflections from the 2024 EMDRIA Conference — a few weeks (or months?) later than planned. From early-morning flights and beachside content shoots to laughter-filled dinners and deep professional reflections, this episode captures the whirlwind of being presenters, exhibitors, and community builders all at once.They talk candidly about what it was like to present Enactment-Focused EMDR for the first time, the energy of meeting listeners face-to-face, and their behind-the-scenes take on the polarizing buzz around EMDR 2.0. It’s part travelogue, part professional reflection, and all the reasons this work matt...
2025-11-041h 14Notice ThatBonus Episode! Conference Recap… A Bit LateJen and Bridger finally sit down to share stories and reflections from the 2024 EMDRIA Conference — a few weeks (or months?) later than planned. From early-morning flights and beachside content shoots to laughter-filled dinners and deep professional reflections, this episode captures the whirlwind of being presenters, exhibitors, and community builders all at once.They talk candidly about what it was like to present Enactment-Focused EMDR for the first time, the energy of meeting listeners face-to-face, and their behind-the-scenes take on the polarizing buzz around EMDR 2.0. It’s part travelogue, part professional reflection, and all the reasons this work matt...
2025-11-041h 14Notice ThatIFS-Informed EMDR: Parts, Art, and the Organic Map of HealingIn this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with David Polidi, Bruce Hersey (Syzygy Institute), and Peggy Kolodny (Art Therapy Collective) to explore the forthcoming anthology IFS-Informed EMDR. Together, they unpack how EMDR’s eight phases can be enriched—not replaced—by Internal Family Systems (IFS), art therapy, and Jungian active imagination.You’ll hear:Why Bruce views the target as a part—and how that changes the way we conceptualize trauma work.How protectors vs. exiles organize around different types of energy (urge vs. disturbance).The emergence of Phase 2.5 / Discovery, bridging resourcing and processing.How art-making...
2025-10-231h 05Notice ThatIFS-Informed EMDR: Parts, Art, and the Organic Map of HealingIn this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with David Polidi, Bruce Hersey (Syzygy Institute), and Peggy Kolodny (Art Therapy Collective) to explore the forthcoming anthology IFS-Informed EMDR. Together, they unpack how EMDR’s eight phases can be enriched—not replaced—by Internal Family Systems (IFS), art therapy, and Jungian active imagination.You’ll hear:Why Bruce views the target as a part—and how that changes the way we conceptualize trauma work.How protectors vs. exiles organize around different types of energy (urge vs. disturbance).The emergence of Phase 2.5 / Discovery, bridging resourcing and processing.How art-making...
2025-10-231h 05Notice ThatEMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de JonghEMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de JonghRecorded live at the EMDRIA conference, Bridger and Jen sit down with the developers of EMDR 2.0, Suzy Matthijssen and Ad de Jongh. Together, they explore how intensive trauma treatment, working memory taxation, and reconsolidation theory are shaping the next generation of EMDR. From four-sessions-a-day protocols to online innovations born during COVID, this conversation brings cutting-edge clinical research into dialogue with the everyday realities of client care.SummaryIn this special conference episode of Notice That, Jen and Bridger interview Suzy Matthijssen and Ad de...
2025-09-1644 minNotice ThatEMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de JonghEMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de JonghRecorded live at the EMDRIA conference, Bridger and Jen sit down with the developers of EMDR 2.0, Suzy Matthijssen and Ad de Jongh. Together, they explore how intensive trauma treatment, working memory taxation, and reconsolidation theory are shaping the next generation of EMDR. From four-sessions-a-day protocols to online innovations born during COVID, this conversation brings cutting-edge clinical research into dialogue with the everyday realities of client care.SummaryIn this special conference episode of Notice That, Jen and Bridger interview Suzy Matthijssen and Ad de...
2025-09-1644 minNotice ThatWhy So Many Protocols?: EMDR Modifications and Their Common ThemesIn this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen continue the Back to Basics series by exploring the ever-expanding landscape of EMDR protocols. Why are there so many? Do we really need a new protocol for every presentation, or are there deeper themes that connect them all?We discuss:The difference between the standard 8-phase protocol and the many specialized variationsCommon themes across protocols, such as the three-pronged approach (past, present, future), dual attention, and externalizationHow to discern when to use a specialized protocol and when to trust your clinical creativity within the standard frameworkWhy case...
2025-08-2842 minNotice ThatWhy So Many Protocols?: EMDR Modifications and Their Common ThemesIn this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen continue the Back to Basics series by exploring the ever-expanding landscape of EMDR protocols. Why are there so many? Do we really need a new protocol for every presentation, or are there deeper themes that connect them all?We discuss:The difference between the standard 8-phase protocol and the many specialized variationsCommon themes across protocols, such as the three-pronged approach (past, present, future), dual attention, and externalizationHow to discern when to use a specialized protocol and when to trust your clinical creativity within the standard frameworkWhy case...
2025-08-2842 minNotice ThatEnactment-Focused EMDR: Reclaiming the Relational ThreadIn this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen reconnect after a summer hiatus, weaving personal updates with professional developments that have defined their recent months. Highlights include:Summer Life & New Beginnings – From extended family time and outdoor writing sessions to the surprise timing of Willa Jean’s birth during an EMDR basic training, they share stories that set the tone for a season of growth and transition.Book Development – They offer a behind-the-scenes look at their collaborative process for The Relational Thread, including how they balance poetic relational writing with research-driven legitimacy, structure chapters, and aim to make d...
2025-08-141h 01Notice ThatEnactment-Focused EMDR: Reclaiming the Relational ThreadIn this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen reconnect after a summer hiatus, weaving personal updates with professional developments that have defined their recent months. Highlights include:Summer Life & New Beginnings – From extended family time and outdoor writing sessions to the surprise timing of Willa Jean’s birth during an EMDR basic training, they share stories that set the tone for a season of growth and transition.Book Development – They offer a behind-the-scenes look at their collaborative process for The Relational Thread, including how they balance poetic relational writing with research-driven legitimacy, structure chapters, and aim to make d...
2025-08-141h 01Notice ThatEMDR Meets Play: Healing Through Curiosity and Connection with Christine Mark-GriffinWhat happens when EMDR and play therapy collide? In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with Christine Mark-Griffin—EMDR child therapist, trainer, and author of The EMDR Workbook for Kids—to explore the art and science of bringing EMDR to children and families. Together they unpack the power of play as a language for healing, how to work with parents as co-regulators, and why case conceptualization is key for working with kids in ongoing trauma. From Roblox as a safe place to the sacred vulnerability of a child pointing to a doll, this conversation invites therapists to join the...
2025-07-181h 08Notice ThatEMDR Meets Play: Healing Through Curiosity and Connection with Christine Mark-GriffinWhat happens when EMDR and play therapy collide? In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with Christine Mark-Griffin—EMDR child therapist, trainer, and author of The EMDR Workbook for Kids—to explore the art and science of bringing EMDR to children and families. Together they unpack the power of play as a language for healing, how to work with parents as co-regulators, and why case conceptualization is key for working with kids in ongoing trauma. From Roblox as a safe place to the sacred vulnerability of a child pointing to a doll, this conversation invites therapists to join the...
2025-07-181h 08Notice ThatEMDR and The Brain's Networks: A Conversation About Modern NeruoscienceWhy Does EMDR Work? A Dive into Network Neuroscience and the Brain’s Healing PotentialEye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) has transformed trauma therapy, but an age-old question lingers: How does it actually work?For decades, the EMDR community has debated this question. Early theories focused on specific brain structures—the hippocampus for memory, the amygdala for fear, the prefrontal cortex for executive control. This modular perspective helped us make sense of a complex process. But neuroscience has evolved, and so has our understanding.In Episode 2 of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Brid...
2025-07-031h 11Notice ThatEMDR and The Brain's Networks: A Conversation About Modern NeruoscienceWhy Does EMDR Work? A Dive into Network Neuroscience and the Brain’s Healing PotentialEye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) has transformed trauma therapy, but an age-old question lingers: How does it actually work?For decades, the EMDR community has debated this question. Early theories focused on specific brain structures—the hippocampus for memory, the amygdala for fear, the prefrontal cortex for executive control. This modular perspective helped us make sense of a complex process. But neuroscience has evolved, and so has our understanding.In Episode 2 of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Brid...
2025-07-031h 11Notice ThatWhat if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy?What If EMDR Was a Fully Somatic Therapy?In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about somatics are becoming more and more common. But what if somatics wasn’t just a helpful layer to add onto EMDR? What if it was the foundation? What if we could reimagine EMDR as a truly somatic therapy—one that centers the body as the primary source of healing, rather than just another variable to account for?In a recent episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Melissa, Bridger, and Jen gathered to reflect on their first EMDR Basic Trai...
2025-03-2752 minNotice ThatWhat if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy?What If EMDR Was a Fully Somatic Therapy?In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about somatics are becoming more and more common. But what if somatics wasn’t just a helpful layer to add onto EMDR? What if it was the foundation? What if we could reimagine EMDR as a truly somatic therapy—one that centers the body as the primary source of healing, rather than just another variable to account for?In a recent episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Melissa, Bridger, and Jen gathered to reflect on their first EMDR Basic Trai...
2025-03-2752 minNotice ThatEMDR with Kids: Interview with Christine Mark-GriffinListen in to hear Jen and Bridger sit down with Kristine Mark-Griffin for a discussion on working with children using EMDR. Christine is the founder of EMDR for Kids. She is an EMDRIA approved Consultant & advanced trainer. She is the author of the award winning EMDR Workbook for Kids and is the lead trainer at EMDR for Kids. Christine’s professional experience has included working in non-profit, child welfare, juvenile justice, community mental health, school-based mental health and higher education settings. Working in these various settings over the years has deepened her knowledge and understanding of complex trauma but has...
2025-02-061h 02Notice ThatEMDR with Kids: Interview with Christine Mark-GriffinListen in to hear Jen and Bridger sit down with Kristine Mark-Griffin for a discussion on working with children using EMDR. Christine is the founder of EMDR for Kids. She is an EMDRIA approved Consultant & advanced trainer. She is the author of the award winning EMDR Workbook for Kids and is the lead trainer at EMDR for Kids. Christine’s professional experience has included working in non-profit, child welfare, juvenile justice, community mental health, school-based mental health and higher education settings. Working in these various settings over the years has deepened her knowledge and understanding of complex trauma but has...
2025-02-061h 02Notice ThatBeyond Is Evolving!: Shifts and RefocusingListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger talk about their relationship over the past five years in starting Beyond Healing and embracing authenticity and humanness through it all. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2025-02-0642 minNotice ThatBeyond Is Evolving!: Shifts and RefocusingListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger talk about their relationship over the past five years in starting Beyond Healing and embracing authenticity and humanness through it all. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2025-02-0642 minNotice ThatHappy New Year!Happy New Year! Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk about some super exciting things coming in 2025 including a new podcast setup, conference presentations, a new EMDR Basic Training, and so much more! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2025-01-1649 minNotice ThatHappy New Year!Happy New Year! Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk about some super exciting things coming in 2025 including a new podcast setup, conference presentations, a new EMDR Basic Training, and so much more! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2025-01-1649 minNotice ThatEMDR, Ego-States, and Neurobiology - Interview with Sandra PaulsenListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Sandra Paulsen. Yes, THE Sandra Paulsen. The author of some of your favorite books for trauma related dissociation treatment and several popular EMDR texts. Some of her work includes When There Are no Words, Looking Through the Eyes of Trauma and Dissociation, Neurobiology and Treatment of Traumatic Dissociation, and her most recent works, We’re Listening Body, and Indigenous Trauma and Dissociation. — For those of you who don’t know Sandra, she is a clinical and consulting psychologist who has used EMDR and ego state therapy to help many trauma surviv...
2024-11-2245 minNotice ThatEMDR, Ego-States, and Neurobiology - Interview with Sandra PaulsenListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Sandra Paulsen. Yes, THE Sandra Paulsen. The author of some of your favorite books for trauma related dissociation treatment and several popular EMDR texts. Some of her work includes When There Are no Words, Looking Through the Eyes of Trauma and Dissociation, Neurobiology and Treatment of Traumatic Dissociation, and her most recent works, We’re Listening Body, and Indigenous Trauma and Dissociation. — For those of you who don’t know Sandra, she is a clinical and consulting psychologist who has used EMDR and ego state therapy to help many trauma surviv...
2024-11-2245 minNotice ThatEnding Therapy: How do You Know?Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on ending therapy. This conversation is a part of Notice That's Back to Basics series where the hosts work through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures, now in its third edition. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-11-071h 00Notice ThatEnding Therapy: How do You Know?Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on ending therapy. This conversation is a part of Notice That's Back to Basics series where the hosts work through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures, now in its third edition. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-11-071h 00Notice ThatReevaluation and the Three Pronged ProtocolListen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss Reevaluation in the standard 8-phase protocol of EMDR, as well as the three pronged protocol embedded in the adaptive information processing (AIP) model. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the hosts of Notice That are reading through Francine Shapiro's eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-10-241h 00Notice ThatReevaluation and the Three Pronged ProtocolListen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss Reevaluation in the standard 8-phase protocol of EMDR, as well as the three pronged protocol embedded in the adaptive information processing (AIP) model. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the hosts of Notice That are reading through Francine Shapiro's eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-10-241h 00Notice ThatThe EMDR Continuum: Interview with Roy KiesslingListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Roy Kiessling about the EMDR processing continuum. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-10-101h 05Notice ThatThe EMDR Continuum: Interview with Roy KiesslingListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Roy Kiessling about the EMDR processing continuum. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-10-101h 05Notice ThatEMDR Now, Then, and Tomorrow: Interview with Roy KiesslingListen in to hear Jen and Melissa's conversation with Roy Kiessling. Roy is an EMDRIA-certified trainer and the founder of EMDR Consulting. Trained in EMDR in 1995, Roy grew professionally as one of Francine Shapiro’s training facilitators (1997-2001), then as a senior trainer for her humanitarian organization (2001-2013), and finally as a senior trainer for Francine’s EMDR Institute (2006-2013).Through EMDR Consulting, Roy Kiessling and his team of trainers and coaches have conducted hundreds of EMDRIA-Approved basic EMDR trainings, educated over 10,000 clinicians in the Belief Focused Neurological Approach to EMDR, and taught innovative approaches including extended reso...
2024-09-261h 26Notice ThatEMDR Now, Then, and Tomorrow: Interview with Roy KiesslingListen in to hear Jen and Melissa's conversation with Roy Kiessling. Roy is an EMDRIA-certified trainer and the founder of EMDR Consulting. Trained in EMDR in 1995, Roy grew professionally as one of Francine Shapiro’s training facilitators (1997-2001), then as a senior trainer for her humanitarian organization (2001-2013), and finally as a senior trainer for Francine’s EMDR Institute (2006-2013).Through EMDR Consulting, Roy Kiessling and his team of trainers and coaches have conducted hundreds of EMDRIA-Approved basic EMDR trainings, educated over 10,000 clinicians in the Belief Focused Neurological Approach to EMDR, and taught innovative approaches including extended reso...
2024-09-261h 26Notice ThatUnlocking EMDR’s Potential: A Deep Dive with EMDRIA’s Michael Bowers on Building Community, Advocacy, and ExcellenceListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Michael Bowers, the Executive Director of EMDRIA. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-09-1255 minNotice ThatUnlocking EMDR’s Potential: A Deep Dive with EMDRIA’s Michael Bowers on Building Community, Advocacy, and ExcellenceListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Michael Bowers, the Executive Director of EMDRIA. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-09-1255 minNotice ThatFly On the Wall: Jen and Bridger's SummerListen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on their experience of being therapists when life happens! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-09-0557 minNotice ThatFly On the Wall: Jen and Bridger's SummerListen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on their experience of being therapists when life happens! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-09-0557 minNotice ThatEMDR for Couples and FamiliesListen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on the work they've been doing to support couples and families in their EMDR journey. Throughout this episode, the hosts incorporate the Cycle of Repression into the conversation. This model of attachment rupture and repair empowers clients to discover safety in connection by understanding how we fall back on learned strategies to avoid threats and seek safety when we feel unseen. Whether it's doom scrolling, substance use, intimate partner violence, or infidelity, this cycle helps us bring compassionate understanding to our therapy clients. Let's embrace authenticity and healing together!...
2024-05-211h 06Notice ThatEMDR for Couples and FamiliesListen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on the work they've been doing to support couples and families in their EMDR journey. Throughout this episode, the hosts incorporate the Cycle of Repression into the conversation. This model of attachment rupture and repair empowers clients to discover safety in connection by understanding how we fall back on learned strategies to avoid threats and seek safety when we feel unseen. Whether it's doom scrolling, substance use, intimate partner violence, or infidelity, this cycle helps us bring compassionate understanding to our therapy clients. Let's embrace authenticity and healing together!...
2024-05-211h 06Notice ThatPhase Four: The Purpose and Function of Desensitization and Reprocessing in EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the purpose and function of desensitization and reprocessing in EMDR Therapy. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics season where the hosts of Notice That are working through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-05-0159 minNotice ThatPhase Four: The Purpose and Function of Desensitization and Reprocessing in EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the purpose and function of desensitization and reprocessing in EMDR Therapy. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics season where the hosts of Notice That are working through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-05-0159 minNotice ThatIntroduction to Phase Four: Desensitization, Reprocessing, Body Scan and InstallationListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger dive in to a conversation about Phase Four of the standard 8-phase EMDR protocol. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the Notice That crew is walking through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). If you haven't been following along, take a scroll back through the podcast library to catch up! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-02-2948 minNotice ThatIntroduction to Phase Four: Desensitization, Reprocessing, Body Scan and InstallationListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger dive in to a conversation about Phase Four of the standard 8-phase EMDR protocol. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the Notice That crew is walking through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). If you haven't been following along, take a scroll back through the podcast library to catch up! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2024-02-2948 minNotice ThatAssessment, Cognitions, Sensations, and Meaning in EMDR TherapyListen in as Jen and Bridger pick back up in the Back to Basics season with chapter five of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). Did you know? After full completion of Beyond Healing Institute’s Somatic Integration and Processing training, each participant can receive 21 NBCC hours. Contact BHCOur WebsiteContact us about retreats and theraContact us about training and consultationRequest to join the Beyond Healing Community here! Check out the EMDR Supplement and other resources here!Think Beyond Podcasts: PatreonDon’t forget to check ou...
2024-02-141h 18Notice ThatAssessment, Cognitions, Sensations, and Meaning in EMDR TherapyListen in as Jen and Bridger pick back up in the Back to Basics season with chapter five of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). Did you know? After full completion of Beyond Healing Institute’s Somatic Integration and Processing training, each participant can receive 21 NBCC hours. Contact BHCOur WebsiteContact us about retreats and theraContact us about training and consultationRequest to join the Beyond Healing Community here! Check out the EMDR Supplement and other resources here!Think Beyond Podcasts: PatreonDon’t forget to check ou...
2024-02-141h 18Notice ThatPhase Two: Preparation for Reprocessing Target MemoriesListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their discussion of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy, now in it's third edition. In this episode, the hosts dive into the first part of chapter five in their discussion on Phase Two: Preparation and Assessment. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-12-0153 minNotice ThatPhase Two: Preparation for Reprocessing Target MemoriesListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their discussion of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy, now in it's third edition. In this episode, the hosts dive into the first part of chapter five in their discussion on Phase Two: Preparation and Assessment. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-12-0153 minNotice ThatTreatment Planning with EMDR: Where Do We Start?Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up on their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy, now in it's third edition. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-11-161h 02Notice ThatTreatment Planning with EMDR: Where Do We Start?Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up on their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy, now in it's third edition. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-11-161h 02Notice ThatFly on the Wall - Life in the EMDR WorldListen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger process through their experience of living and practicing in the EMDR world. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-11-071h 12Notice ThatFly on the Wall - Life in the EMDR WorldListen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger process through their experience of living and practicing in the EMDR world. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-11-071h 12Notice ThatEMDR and Therapeutic Intensity - For the Client and TherapistListen in to hear Melissa and Bridger dive in to discuss therapeutic intensity in EMDR therapy. For the client and therapist both, EMDR offers a window into powerful autonomic and characterological change. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-11-0745 minNotice ThatHealing the Fragmented SelfListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation on self development and fragmentation as well the healing journey. Building on the fundamental principles of SIP I, the second training in SIP applies these principles to understanding the development of the self and the natural process of dissociation and ego fragmentation throughout the lifespan. SIP II: Healing the Fragmented Self and Complex Trauma presents a synthesis of developmental lifespan theory, internal family systems (IFS), ego state theory, and structural dissociation in a non-linear developmental timeline wherein dissociation and ego fragmentation can be visually illustrated and conceptualized. Intersubjectivity is then layered...
2023-10-1654 minNotice ThatHealing the Fragmented SelfListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation on self development and fragmentation as well the healing journey. Building on the fundamental principles of SIP I, the second training in SIP applies these principles to understanding the development of the self and the natural process of dissociation and ego fragmentation throughout the lifespan. SIP II: Healing the Fragmented Self and Complex Trauma presents a synthesis of developmental lifespan theory, internal family systems (IFS), ego state theory, and structural dissociation in a non-linear developmental timeline wherein dissociation and ego fragmentation can be visually illustrated and conceptualized. Intersubjectivity is then layered...
2023-10-1654 minNotice ThatPhase One: Getting Grounded in History Taking with EMDRListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). In this episode, the hosts begin in chapter four of the book, Client History. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-09-251h 03Notice ThatPhase One: Getting Grounded in History Taking with EMDRListen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). In this episode, the hosts begin in chapter four of the book, Client History. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-09-251h 03Notice ThatUnderstanding Targets in EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Melissa and Bridger finish chapter three in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-07-201h 00Notice ThatUnderstanding Targets in EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Melissa and Bridger finish chapter three in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-07-201h 00Notice ThatBasic Components of EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Jen and Bridger pick back up on the Back to Basics season as they dive into chapter three of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Thearpy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-06-231h 11Notice ThatBasic Components of EMDR TherapyListen in to hear Jen and Bridger pick back up on the Back to Basics season as they dive into chapter three of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Thearpy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures (3rd ed.). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-06-231h 11Notice ThatAdaptive Information Processing (AIP) and the Brain - Interview with Caleb Boston & Bridger FalkenstienListen in to hear Jen and Melissa talk with the hosts of the Evidence Based Therapist Podcast as the two podcasts from Think Beyond join forces to dive into information processing in the brain. This episode is a commentary on the 2nd chapter of Francine Shapiro's seminal introduction to EMDR entitled, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures. Notice That will continue their Back to Basics journey through the book but we wanted to share this episode as a means of organizing our experience of AIP as a foundational theory of EMDR.
2023-04-181h 22Notice ThatAdaptive Information Processing (AIP) and the Brain - Interview with Caleb Boston & Bridger FalkenstienListen in to hear Jen and Melissa talk with the hosts of the Evidence Based Therapist Podcast as the two podcasts from Think Beyond join forces to dive into information processing in the brain. This episode is a commentary on the 2nd chapter of Francine Shapiro's seminal introduction to EMDR entitled, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures. Notice That will continue their Back to Basics journey through the book but we wanted to share this episode as a means of organizing our experience of AIP as a foundational theory of EMDR.
2023-04-181h 22Notice ThatThe Art and Science of EMDR - Interview with Rotem BrayerListen in to here Bridger's interview with therapist, community developer, and author, Rotem Brayer. This discussion features a sneak peak into Rotem's most recent book entitled The Art and Science of EMDR: Helping Clinicians Bridge the Path from Protocol to Practice. Here's an excerpt from the back of the book: The EMDR model is linear―real EMDR is not.Therapists who are trained in EMDR can facilitate healing in the most profound ways. But successful treatment requires more than following a rigid script or a protocol. It requires bringing both the art and science of EM...
2023-03-291h 05Notice ThatThe Art and Science of EMDR - Interview with Rotem BrayerListen in to here Bridger's interview with therapist, community developer, and author, Rotem Brayer. This discussion features a sneak peak into Rotem's most recent book entitled The Art and Science of EMDR: Helping Clinicians Bridge the Path from Protocol to Practice. Here's an excerpt from the back of the book: The EMDR model is linear―real EMDR is not.Therapists who are trained in EMDR can facilitate healing in the most profound ways. But successful treatment requires more than following a rigid script or a protocol. It requires bringing both the art and science of EM...
2023-03-291h 05Notice ThatFirst Time Using EMDRListen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk reflect back on their first experiences as newly trained EMDR clinicians. In this episode, Jen and Bridger also talk about the importance of case conceptualization and ongoing professional development training. If you're interested to find out about the training opportunities at Beyond Healing Institute, check out the course calendar here! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-03-1449 minNotice ThatFirst Time Using EMDRListen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk reflect back on their first experiences as newly trained EMDR clinicians. In this episode, Jen and Bridger also talk about the importance of case conceptualization and ongoing professional development training. If you're interested to find out about the training opportunities at Beyond Healing Institute, check out the course calendar here! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-03-1449 minNotice ThatFeeling What We Remember - Interview with Bruce EckerWhat do we do as EMDR Therapists with new research? How should we protect the fidelity of EMDR while honoring and integrating new discoveries from the relational neurosciences? Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger’s discussion with Bruce Ecker about the revolutionizing science of Memory Reconsolidation that can help us address symptoms and strategies of those we work with at the root.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-03-141h 31Notice ThatFeeling What We Remember - Interview with Bruce EckerWhat do we do as EMDR Therapists with new research? How should we protect the fidelity of EMDR while honoring and integrating new discoveries from the relational neurosciences? Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger’s discussion with Bruce Ecker about the revolutionizing science of Memory Reconsolidation that can help us address symptoms and strategies of those we work with at the root.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-03-141h 31Notice ThatBack to Basics - Season IntroductionListen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger's first episode in the new Back to Basics season on Notice That. This episode includes reflection on the first half of chapter one in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed). We would love for you to join along so if you're able, please check out Francine's landmark publication and join us here at Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-02-1450 minNotice ThatBack to Basics - Season IntroductionListen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger's first episode in the new Back to Basics season on Notice That. This episode includes reflection on the first half of chapter one in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed). We would love for you to join along so if you're able, please check out Francine's landmark publication and join us here at Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-02-1450 minNotice ThatPolyvagal Theory and EMDR with Kids - Interview with Jackie Flynn - Winter RepostListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Jackie Flynn about using Polyvagal theory and EMDR when working with kids. This episode initially appeared on the Notice That podcast in February of 2022. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-01-261h 10Notice ThatPolyvagal Theory and EMDR with Kids - Interview with Jackie Flynn - Winter RepostListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Jackie Flynn about using Polyvagal theory and EMDR when working with kids. This episode initially appeared on the Notice That podcast in February of 2022. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2023-01-261h 10Notice ThatEMDR with Teens and Families - Interview with Annie Monaco and Nicole WolaszListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz where they discuss the ins and outs of working with teens and their families using EMDR. To learn more about the work Annie and Nicole are doing in the world, here's a bit of information from Annie:Trauma Institute and Child Trauma Institute TrainingsI am a faculty member of the Trauma Institute and Child Trauma Institute. I provide trainings in the following: EMDR and Progressive Counting. Descriptions can be found on the Trauma Institute website at childtrauma.com. I...
2022-12-0152 minNotice ThatEMDR with Teens and Families - Interview with Annie Monaco and Nicole WolaszListen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz where they discuss the ins and outs of working with teens and their families using EMDR. To learn more about the work Annie and Nicole are doing in the world, here's a bit of information from Annie:Trauma Institute and Child Trauma Institute TrainingsI am a faculty member of the Trauma Institute and Child Trauma Institute. I provide trainings in the following: EMDR and Progressive Counting. Descriptions can be found on the Trauma Institute website at childtrauma.com. I...
2022-12-0152 minNotice ThatProfessional Development and EMDR PracticeListen in to hear Melissa and Bridger from Beyond talk about the process of professional development as professional healers and EMDR Therapists. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-10-2853 minNotice ThatProfessional Development and EMDR PracticeListen in to hear Melissa and Bridger from Beyond talk about the process of professional development as professional healers and EMDR Therapists. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-10-2853 minNotice ThatFly on the Wall with Jen & Ryan SavageRyan joins Jen today on a Fly on the Wall episode. They have conversation about what its like to be married to a therapist and all the work they do together at Beyond.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-3046 minNotice ThatFly on the Wall with Jen & Ryan SavageRyan joins Jen today on a Fly on the Wall episode. They have conversation about what its like to be married to a therapist and all the work they do together at Beyond.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-3046 minNotice ThatA-Z Interweaves with Dr. Michelle Morrissey (82)Jen and Bridger discuss EMDR interweaves with Dr. Michelle Morrissey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-231h 01Notice ThatA-Z Interweaves with Dr. Michelle Morrissey (82)Jen and Bridger discuss EMDR interweaves with Dr. Michelle Morrissey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-231h 01Notice ThatIntroduction to Season 3Melissa, Jen, and Bridger introduce Season 3 through their current excitement within EMDR, the Beyond Healing Community, and the EMDR Supplement.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-0243 minNotice ThatIntroduction to Season 3Melissa, Jen, and Bridger introduce Season 3 through their current excitement within EMDR, the Beyond Healing Community, and the EMDR Supplement.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-08-0243 minNotice That(BONUS) Unedited Version of Fly on the WallJen and Bridger process their subjective experience with the Fly on the Wall segment, as therapists, and as humans. This is the unedited version - giving you a bonus "fly on the wall" experience of recording a podcast. Join us in all our humanness!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-07-191h 11Notice ThatFly on the Wall with Jen and BridgerOn this week's episode, Jen and Bridger discuss their subjective experience as therapists. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-07-191h 04Notice ThatFly on the Wall with Jen and BridgerOn this week's episode, Jen and Bridger discuss their subjective experience as therapists. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-07-191h 04Notice That(BONUS) Unedited Version of Fly on the WallJen and Bridger process their subjective experience with the Fly on the Wall segment, as therapists, and as humans. This is the unedited version - giving you a bonus "fly on the wall" experience of recording a podcast. Join us in all our humanness!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-07-191h 11Notice ThatSandTray Therapy and EMDR with Marshall LylesJen and Bridger interview Marshall Lyles, a therapist in Austin, Texas who specializes in expressive therapy and EMDR (zoom recording).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-05-181h 05Notice ThatSandTray Therapy and EMDR with Marshall LylesJen and Bridger interview Marshall Lyles, a therapist in Austin, Texas who specializes in expressive therapy and EMDR (zoom recording).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-05-181h 05Notice ThatPolyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)The post Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost) appeared first on Notice That.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Notice ThatPolyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)
Listen to this week’s repost to reminisce on Bridger’s first episode on Notice That and learn (or relearn) about Polyvagal Theory.
In this episode, Jen and Melissa introduce a new therapist from Beyond Healing Center and discuss a foundational theory in the development of Somatic Information Processing, a model of therapy synthesized and created by Beyond Healing Center. Topics covered in the episode include:
Three components of Polyvagal Theory (PVT):
1) Autonomic Hierarchy
– Ventral Vagal (or social engagement)
– Sympathetic Activation (flight and fight)
– Dorsal Vagal Shutdo...
2022-01-011h 02Notice ThatPolyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)The post Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost) appeared first on Notice That.
2022-01-011h 00Notice ThatPolyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)The post Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost) appeared first on Notice That.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2022-01-011h 04Notice ThatEpisode 33: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 2)The post Episode 33: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 2) appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-08-1657 minNotice ThatEpisode 33: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 2)The post Episode 33: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 2) appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-08-1657 minNotice ThatEpisode 32: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 1)The post Episode 32: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 1) appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-08-021h 00Notice ThatEpisode 32: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 1)The post Episode 32: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 1) appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-08-021h 00Notice ThatEpisode 27: Knowing Gratitude- Journaling Prompts Mini SeriesListen as Bridger takes you through an exercise of knowing and experiencing gratitude. If you would like, you may follow along with a pen and a piece of paper. https://media.blubrry.com/noticethat/content.blubrry.com/noticethat/Knowing_Gratitude.m4aThe post Episode 27: Knowing Gratitude- Journaling Prompts Mini Series appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-05-1506 minNotice ThatEpisode 27: Knowing Gratitude- Journaling Prompts Mini SeriesListen as Bridger takes you through an exercise of knowing and experiencing gratitude. If you would like, you may follow along with a pen and a piece of paper. https://media.blubrry.com/noticethat/content.blubrry.com/noticethat/Knowing_Gratitude.m4aThe post Episode 27: Knowing Gratitude- Journaling Prompts Mini Series appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2020-05-1506 minNotice ThatEpisode 14: Interview w/ JenThe post Episode 14: Interview w/ Jen appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
2019-11-0425 minNotice ThatEpisode 14: Interview w/ JenThe post Episode 14: Interview w/ Jen appeared first on Notice That. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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