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Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love80. Somebody You Love says goodbye to 2024!It’s a big fat Holly & Jenna recap episode! What did we get up to this year? What games, movies, and tv shows did we love? What new sexual experiences did we encounter? And what is coming up for us in 2025??Support the showMERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storePatreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodX: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@somebodyyoupod2024-12-191h 35Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love79. Somebody You Love needs rights not rescue (f**k your saviour complex)NSWP (Global Network of Sex Work Projects): https://www.nswp.org/membersAPNSW (Asia Pacific Network of Sex Workers): https://apnswnew.wordpress.com/membership/members/Sources: https://soundcloud.com/socialismconf/behind-the-rescue-sex-work-migration-and-the-anti-trafficking-industryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CfYvmGIzREhttps://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-white-savior-industrial-complex/254843/https://www.artofcitizenry.com/podcast/episode-15-rescue-industryhttps://truthout.org/articles/the-american-rescue-industry-toward-an-anti-trafficking-paramilitary/https://titsandsass.com/baked-goods-or-baby-missionaries-in-conversation-with-the-cupcake-girls/https://www.hrw.org/report/2010/07/19/streets/arbitrary-detention-and-other-abuses-against-sex-workers-cambodiaSupport the showMERCH: https://www.s...2024-12-0553 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love78. Somebody You Love needs rights not rescue (f**k the Nordic Model)Well, the time has come. We are finally doing a deep dive on the Nordic Model! End Demand, Swedish Model, Equality Model... whatever you want to call it, it sucks. Sources: Sex in the New Europe: The Criminalization of Clients and Swedish Fear of Penetration, Kulick, 2003Twenty Years of Failing Sex Workers: A community report on the impact of the 1999 Swedish Sex Purchase Act, Fuckforbundet, 2019 Sex Work and the Nordic Model (w/ Freja and Elizabeth), The Importance of Being Feminist, 2021The human cost of ‘crushing’ the market: Criminalization of sex work in Norway, Amnesty International, 2016What do sex...2024-11-2159 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love77. Turned On: The Best Little Whorehouse in TexasThe film The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas was released in 1982, based on the 1978 musical, based loosely on a true story. The movie stars Dolly Parton and Burt Reynolds and this week Holly and Jenna are sharing their thoughts on it! Support the showMERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storePatreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodX: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@somebodyyoupod2024-10-241h 09Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love76. Somebody You Love makes and studies Indie Porn (Dr Zahra StardustCombining 15 years as a professional undresser, award-winning stripper, pole dancer, & 🌽 star with an international research portfolio spanning SWer activism, LGBTQ+ health, sexual rights and sextech, it’s Zahra Stardust!Order Indie Porn: Revolution, Regulation, and Resistance: https://avidreader.com.au/p/indie-porn-revolution-regulation-and-resistanceSupport the showMERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storePatreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodX: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@somebodyyoupod2024-10-031h 02Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love75. Somebody You Love faces digital violence (Pomma)Pomma Granet, also known as Blair Bishop, also known as OnlyPomma, Juicy Pomma, Succubus Slut, and a host of other usernames given how many times they’ve had accounts deleted, is a New York-based full service sex worker, adult content creator, BDSM & fetish provider, cammer, and much more. Blair describes themselves as a bit of a nerd - they love video games, cosplay, anime, crafting, and alternative fashion and they are often traveling the country for anime conventions. They also spend a lot of their time online yelling into the void about sex worker’s rights and thus...2024-09-191h 02Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love74. Somebody You Love had a stalker Pt 2CW: Stalking, harassment, sexual assaultWelcome to part 2, and apologies for the darkness of these episodes! This time Holly & Jenna each share another story of stalking/harassment, as well as talk about the red flags they’ve learnt to watch out for, parasocial relationships, hitting on people at work, and female perpetrators. Support the showMERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storePatreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodX: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com...2024-09-051h 08Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love73. Somebody You Love had a stalker Pt 1CW: Stalking, harassment, sexual assault, animal death. We use the term “grandfathered” in this episode. We understand this term has very racist origins, and we apologise for the mistake. A better term would have been “legacy rates”While we are not more likely to be victims of violence because we sell sex, we are more likely to be victims of violence because people think the fact that we sell sex makes us less than human. Which is the whole reason this podcast exists. Today Holly & Jenna are each sharing one of the more harrowing experiences they have had in t...2024-08-2258 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love72. Turned On: Pretty WomanHolly finally convinced Jenna to watch Pretty Woman and here we are! Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodX: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodFor more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopntQld (Respect Inc): https://r...2024-08-081h 07Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love71. Somebody You Love wrote a book about sluts (Dr Hilary Caldwell)Note: we had some technical issues when recording this episode, so unfortunately the audio isn’t at the level we usually like to deliver! Buy SLUTDOM: ​​https://www.uqp.com.au/books/slutdom-reclaiming-shame-free-sexualityDr Hilary Caldwell has been a sex worker for over 20 years and decided to come out of hiding to publish her first book. She is an academic with a Masters in Health Science and Applied Science. Her doctorate, ‘Women Who Buy Sex in Australia’ was the first study in the world to explore women buying sexual services and was informed by her sex work an...2024-07-2553 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love70. Somebody You Love helps you ask sticky questionsHow do I ask how recently they were tested for STIs? How do I ask for us to do something different this time? What if I get down there and it smells really bad? Holly & Jenna give you tips on how to tackle tricky topics and sticky subjects. They also answer the listener question “Is there room for older ladies to succeed in SW?”Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodMERCH: http://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storeInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www...2024-04-181h 07Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love69. Just The Tips: So you want to be an Independent Escort Pt 3In part three of this series (make sure you’ve listened to parts 1 & 2 if you’re new or thinking about joining the industry!), we’re talking about the actual booking - how do you keep time, how to set up for and run a booking, how to do health checks, tips for building assertiveness, and what mental self care is necessary in this job. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter...2024-03-2853 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love68. Just The Tips: So you want to be an independent escort? Pt 2In part two of this series, we are moving more into the logistics of the job itself. Holly and Jenna talk about advertising & advertising platforms, dealing with time wasters, screening, getting deposits, and supplying invoices. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodSomebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/For mo...2024-03-1455 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love67. Somebody You Love lost their virginity* to an escortMichael (he/him), and Louise (she/her) both lost their “virginity” to sex workers and they’ve both agreed to share their stories on the show! *Virginity is a social construct, but we talk about that more in the episode. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodFor more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/ACT (SW...2024-02-2951 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love66. Is Somebody You Love an arsehole?Yep, this week we are mining reddit for content. We read out the SW-related stories of contributors to /r/AITA and decide if we think:NTA (not the arsehole)YTA (you are the arsehole)NAH (no arseholes here)ESH (everyone sucks here) Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodFor more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/A...2024-02-151h 14Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love65. Turned On: Music Theatre and Sex WorkGet your jazz hands ready, we’re doing musicals! Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/41U6nuxshQciTYfLLnIsfb?si=a50dc606af40463eSonglist: 1. I Dreamed a Dream (Les Miserables, 1980) 2. Lovely Ladies (Les Miserables, 1980)3. The Movie in my Mind (Miss Saigon, 1989)4. The Transaction (Miss Saigon, 1989)5. No One Knows Who I Am (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990)6. Bring on the Men (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990)7. Someone Like You (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990)8. Out Tonight (RENT, 1994) 9. I Don’t Know How To Love Him (Jes...2024-02-0243 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love64. Turned On: Songs about Sex WorkSpotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/41U6nuxshQciTYfLLnIsfb?si=a50dc606af40463eMandatory article: https://www.mandatory.com/culture/1066689-the-10-best-songs-about-prostitutesSong list: 1. Call Me (Blondie, 1980)2. What Would You Do (City High, 1999)3. Sweetest Girl (Wyclef Jean, 2007)4. Slut Money  (ZAND, 2020) 5. The A Team (Ed Sheeran, 2011)6. None of Your Business (Salt-N-Pepa, 1993)7. Sugar Daddy (Qveen Herby, 2020) 8. Lady Marmalade (Labelle, 1974) and then by Xtina, Mya, Pink and Lil Kim in 20019. Killer Queen (Queen, 1974)10. Roxanne (The Police, 1978)Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod...2024-01-1835 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love63. Somebody You Love is non-binary (Charlie Bear)TW: Shit People Say mentions sexual assaultMeet Charlie Bear, a trans, non-binary sex worker based in Melbourne, on Wurundjeri land. They were assigned female at birth, but currently live in a body that falls between female and male, and use they/them pronouns. They see clients of all genders, and are on the show today to talk about the gender binary, the SWERF 'n' TERF lunch special, and both the privileges and pressures that come with being an 'out' non-binary sex worker. Charlie’s website: charliebearbookings.comIntersex Human Rights Australia: https://ihr...2024-01-041h 11Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love62. Somebody You Love does Christmas!Holly spreads the festive fun while Jenna tries to maintain her strong boundaries around frivolity. CHAPTERS04:32: Sexy Gift Giving Guide 202320:50: Porno or not-porno?26:30: Holiday traditions50:17: New Years Booking WishlistsLINKSPipedream Fantasy for her – Her ultimate pleasure: https://www.randyfox.com.au/fantasy-for-her-her-ultimate-pleasure-licking-sucking-pleasure-pump.htmlAlliance Ultra Plush MIcrofibre Pillow: https://www.mydeal.com.au/alliance-ultra-plush-microfibre-pillow-standard-4260271Spareparts Joque Unisex Strap-on Harness: https://www.lovehoney.com.au/sex-toys/strap-ons/strap-on-kits/p/spareparts-hardwear-unisex-joque-strap-on-harness/a18043g22339.htmlAustralian Wildlife Sanctuary: https://www.australianwildlifesanctuary.com...2023-12-211h 00Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love61. The Problem with (cishet) Male EscortsSeason 4 is here and we’re finally tackling the minefield of a topic that is male escorts!01:00 Main Segment: The Problem with Male Escorts57:25 Shit People Say: “you're definitely not seeing clients in the family home”Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupodMerch: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/storeInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupodFor more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au...2023-12-071h 07Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love60. Somebody You Love still has a podcastCW: Deaths of peers 54:29 - 1:00:00For our final episode of season 3 we’re filling you in on what has happened in the world of Holly & Jenna (and Mr Love) over the last two years of Somebody You Love. What’s changed, what hasn’t, and what’s to come. And we answer a listener question on the topic of sex worker ethics Bella Green’s book ‘Happy Endings’: https://www.booktopia.com.au/happy-endings-bella-green/book/9781760982768.html‘The’ Buzzfeed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWm9rdU6IRY&ab_channel=BuzzFeedOz&themeRefresh=1Patreon (from $3AUD...2023-08-311h 19Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love59. Somebody You Love lost 50kgs (Lex Leigh)CW: Weight loss, fatphobiaHolly & Jenna interview Lex Leigh - a nerdy gamer girl who has worked in the adult industry her entire adult life, including online and in person, and over the last few years has lost a total of 50kgs. She shares with us her reasons for wanting to lose weight, the physical and mental toll it has taken on her, and the reactions of clients/fans and her peers.Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupodFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod...2023-06-0154 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love58. The Problem with the P-wordCW: SW slursWhy don't we like to be called "prostitutes"? When did this start and what are the alternatives? What is the harm in using slurs? What are the common arguments people use to continue saying the p-word?We know we've said we don't like the word on our show, but we've not gone into depth and we've received a few questions about it, so here's a whole hour dedicated to this gross word (that SWers are welcome to reclaim if they wish)!Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupodTwitter...2023-04-131h 04Somebody You LoveSomebody You Love57. Somebody You Love is a gay male escortCharlie has many years experience in different areas of the industry, having started initially in Aotearoa (New Zealand) doing online work as well as full service. He is currently the Male Project Worker at SWOP NSW and he joins us today to talk to us about how and where M4M sex work takes place, hookup culture and opportunistic work, resources and access to community, and safer sex practises. 1:52: Main segment41:07: Shit People Say Instagram: http://www.instagram.co...2023-03-1648 minSomebody You LoveSomebody You Love56. Somebody You Love is a transgender escortSophie is renowned for being the only German trans mistress in Australia and she recently announced her intentions to retire from SW this year, due to the negative experiences she has encountered as a trans person within the industry.We’ve had gender diverse people on the show before, but thus far we haven't delved into the challenges unique to this community, so we invited Sophie on the show to share her perspective.Meaningful Work: Transgender Experiences in the Sex Trade: https://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/Meaningful%20Work-Full%20Report_FINAL_3.pdfKi...2023-02-1659 min