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Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastBody led birthNatalie and Jenna are chatting birth in this month's episode of mothers talking.  We look at the current landscape of birth preparation and explore how we feel about it.  We discuss what we think is more helpful when preparing for birth and how listening and tuning into yourself is much more important than listening to others.  Come with us on this journey to uncover the deep needs of pregnancy and find your way to birth with curiosity and calm. Natalie's website is below where you can order her book, How to Have a Baby and the walk tal...2025-06-3058 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastMum rage with Suzie VaughanIn this month's episode of mothers talking, Jenna chats to Suzie Vaughan, psychotherapist and breath work practitioner, about our mum rage and what we can do about it.  We discuss the shame and guilt around anger that especially women can feel, we chat about how giving ourselves permission to feel it can help us work with our anger and not suppress it.  Suzie offers great tools and tips to help you process your anger in a healthy way and opens up about her own journey with anger in raising her son.  A brilliant episode to remind us to always be...2025-05-2749 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastLaura's story - newborn nonsenseIt's very easy as a new mum to be thrown off your beautiful instinct by well meaning but misplaced comments about your baby...in this month's episode of mothers talking, Natalie chats to lovely Laura Hubbard, new mum to baby Bobby, about how she is feeling during these sensitive early days.  As a second time mum, Laura trusts herself more in knowing her baby and is working hard to drown out the voices that make her feel like she doesn't.   Laura also featured in an earlier episode if you would like to hear more from her. h...2025-04-3053 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastwhere we areIn this rather unique episode of mothers talking, Jenna and Natalie get personal.  As we both go through big changes in our lives, we talk candidly about where we are and how we are feeling during this period of transition.  As usual, we are unfiltered and unscripted and it's interesting the twists and twirls this conversation takes.  Grab a cuppa and join in the chat. If you would like to get in touch about anything, please email us at motherstalkingpodcast@gmail.com Natalie's website www.nataliemeddings.com Jenna's website ...2025-03-2756 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastMalikah's story - enjoying motherhoodNatalie and Jenna are back in the first mothers talking episode of 2025.  Malikah Almaghrabi chats to us about how she enjoys motherhood with her beautiful daughter, Rumi and how allowing the duality of the experience helps her to be present and find the joy.  We share how we each enjoy motherhood and what it means to us and how it isn't necessarily what you think.  Thank you so much for joining us Malikah, we feel your joy. To get in touch with Natalie and Jenna, please email motherstalkingpodcast@gmail.com Natalie's website w...2025-02-271h 15Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastFather love with Peter WalkerIn our last episode of the year, Jenna and Natalie are delighted to welcome back the wonderful Peter Walker.  Peter oozes compassion and warmth in his third episode with us as he chats about how fathers can help support their partners through pregnancy and birth but explores so much more than that.  Peter talks about how babies are our teachers, not the other way round, how breathing out is one of the most important things you can do and gives us a real dose of what father love can feel like.  Thanks so much Peter for this special episode. ...2024-12-2259 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastMum InterruptedNatalie and Jenna are back together in this month's episode of mothers talking.  Natalie joins Jenna in her thoughts on how often we are interrupted as mothers and the impact this has on our minds and bodies.  As two mums at different stages in our journeys we discuss the challenges and the gifts of our kids' interruptions and how Natalie reframes this for us all as a super power. If you would like to visit Natalie's new website for all her offerings including her new audio book for How to Have a Baby, please go to -              www...2024-11-2136 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastAcupuncture and fertility with Saumeel PatelIn this thought provoking episode of mothers talking, Jenna chats to Saumeel Patel about how acupuncture can support your fertility journey.  Saumeel is an incredible acupuncturist and holistic practitioner who explains how simple it can be to prepare the body for pregnancy.  Jenna and Saum also discuss how important acupuncture is in treating the whole person and how brilliant it can be for the grey areas in health especially when you're finding it hard to get the answers you need. Please be aware that we do discuss some sensitive issues including miscarriage. If you'd like to...2024-10-3052 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastHealing after a traumatic birth with Alex HeathMothers talking is delighted to chat to Alex Heath, a perinatal trauma therapist and founder of The Birth Republic, in this much needed episode.  Alex who is so down to earth and honest about her own journey with anxiety, which inspired her to retrain as a therapist, chats to Jenna about birth trauma, perinatal struggles and what we can do to help ourselves through it. Please be aware of the sensitive subject matter and go gently when listening. If you are struggling with anything we discuss in this episode, please do seek help, you are n...2024-09-1547 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcasta few thousand words on anxietyNatalie and Jenna are back after the summer break with this honest episode of mothers talking.  We are chatting openly about our own experiences with anxiety and sharing our thoughts about this difficult yet common feeling.  Do you suffer from anxiety?  Is it running your life? Is it even something to cure?  We do our best to explore what living with anxiety is like on a personal and wider level. If you are struggling at the moment, know that you are not alone and please do seek help.  Your GP can be a good place to start and y...2024-08-3158 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastParenting for Humans with Dr Emma SvanbergWe are so delighted to have this mothers talking chat with the brilliant Dr Emma Svanberg, clinical psychologist for parents, author and campaigner.  In this rich episode we discuss Emma's latest book, Parenting for Humans, where Emma allows us to discover why we parent the way we do and uncover more of ourselves in the process.  Emma has a way of making us feel relaxed about our parenting choices and reassures us that what we're doing is enough.  Emma is so warm and insightful with what she shares, this is a good one, not to be missed.  Thank you so m...2024-07-081h 10Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastBaby massage and the power of loving touch with Peter WalkerThe wonderful Peter Walker is back with us in this enriching episode of mothers talking.  Peter Walker, a leader in his field of developmental baby massage, is so wise, knowledgeable and all heart as he chats with Jenna about the wealth of benefits our babies receive from respectful and loving touch.  It's a reassuring listen because you definitely can't hold your baby too much. Some sensitive topics are discussed so please be mindful when listening. You can hear more from Peter a few episodes back in 'You calm the belly, you calm the baby'. ...2024-06-1259 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastBaby and toddler sleepIn this soothing episode of mothers talking, Natalie and Jenna explore the sometimes controversial topic of sleep, in babies, toddlers and beyond.  We look at how the decisions we make with sleep have a deep and lasting impact on us and our children and as always how trusting your gut and ignoring the 'shoulds' is always best for you and your baby. This is the blog Jenna mentions during the show. https://www.theminimalistdoula.com/blog/night-time-parenting And if you have any thoughts you would like to share with us please do email u...2024-04-301h 05Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastSusie & Ziggy's story - positive about Down syndromeIn this special episode of mothers talking in honour of World Down Syndrome Day, Jenna chats to Susie Baxter whose beautiful son Ziggy has Down syndrome.  Ziggy and Jenna's son Jude met in their speech and language class run by the wonderful Down syndrome charity, 21&co.  Susie shares her journey with Ziggy as well as exploring what Down syndrome means to her.   *We do touch on some very sensitive issues in this episode including baby loss and termination so please be mindful when listening* Useful links: Ziggy's instagram @zigstar21 Posi...2024-03-2148 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastMolly and Tahmina's story - our unicorn birthsIn this curious episode of mothers talking, Natalie and Jenna chat to mums, Molly Russell and Tahmina Pinnington-Mannan, about their unicorn births, in particular the difficulty they have had in sharing their experiences.  Have you ever heard of a unicorn birth?  Maybe you've had one?  Maybe you want one?  Come and have a listen and find out what it's all about. If you would like to get in touch with us about any of our episodes, please email us at  motherstalkingpodcast@gmail.com   2024-03-0551 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcast'You calm the belly you calm the baby' with Peter WalkerIn this enlightening episode of mothers talking, Jenna is thrilled to chat to the warm and wise Peter Walker, father of five, developmental baby massage expert and author, whose latest book, 'The Resilient Child' is out now. Jenna and Peter discuss a baby's first 1001 critical days from conception to toddlerhood, explore what's important for a child to thrive in those early days, weeks and months, as well as how Peter has helped, Jenna's son Jude, through his incredible developmental delay clinic. If you would like to reach out to Peter, his email address is 2024-02-1251 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastHannah's story - school stressIn this absorbing episode of mothers talking, Natalie chats to Hannah Rafael, mum to George, about their journey with George's school stress.  George was struggling after the pandemic and as he transitioned to secondary school, the environment only  encouraged his anxiety further which led to his eventual school refusal.  Stressful though it was, Hannah reflects on how it was necessary for her son to take a break from the school system to find himself again.   If there is a topic you'd like to hear us discuss please email us at motherstalkingpodcast@gmail.com 2024-01-1750 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastSitting with discomfortNatalie and Jenna are back together in this episode of mothers talking, chatting all about discomfort.  A thoughtful discussion about why discomfort is important and how we actually need more of it and the gifts it brings.  Is your life getting too comfortable? Is comfort wrapped in convenience actually blocking our sense of self? We now have an email address so please feel free to write to us and let us know your thoughts at motherstalkingpodcast@gmail.com.   2023-11-3045 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastNatalie’s story - Breastfeeding my allergy babyIn this informative episode of mothers talking, Jenna chats to her good friend, Dr Natalie Green about her journey with her son Rupert.  As a baby, Rupert had severe allergies and the knee-jerk medical advice was to stop breastfeeding. Natalie wasn't prepared to do that so challenged this concept and with a positive outlook, lots of love and determination, Natalie breastfed Rupert who is now nearly allergy free.  Thank you Natalie for sharing your inspiring story with us. 2023-10-2742 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastWill’s story - home vs hospital birth: a dad's perspectiveWe are back after the summer break and have our first father talking in this unique episode of mothers talking.  Will Squire openly shares his thoughts and feelings on the births of his two children, Francis and Clara and why they were so different.  Will and his wife Jo, reflect particularly on how the environment for birth was so important to their experience, with their first child being born at hospital and their second being born at home. 2023-08-311h 07Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastA clean pageNatalie and Jenna are back in this special episode of Mothers talking.  This time having a peek inside Natalie's wonderful book, How to Have a Baby.  So where do you start when preparing for birth?  You begin at the beginning...   2023-06-1851 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastLaura’s story - a VBAC at home surprisinglyIn this informative and empowering episode of mothers talking, mum of three, Laura Whitby chats to Jenna about the journey she took in her third pregnancy with her second VBAC (vaginal birth after caesarean) and guides us through her process to a healing and positive experience. 2023-05-2552 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastLara’s story - Stubbornly breechIn this insightful episode of Mothers talking, Jenna talks to Lara Vasconcelos, mother of soon to be three and fellow doula, about her journey with her second baby who in her words, was 'stubbornly breech' throughout her pregnancy. Hearing your baby is breech can bring up all kinds of questions and emotions in pregnancy and navigating the maternity system can be even more challenging.  Listen to Lara's story to gain valuable insight into how she handled this. 2023-04-2439 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastLaura & Lonne’s story - Trusting yourselfIn this powerful episode of Mothers talking, Natalie chats to not one but two lovely mum guests, Laura Hubbard and Lonne Cannon Brookes, about their birth experiences and how they trusted themselves over and above anything else. Laura trusted her body and her baby even when the maternity system told her not to, 'we weren't two people, it was all me' and Lonne fought for what she believed in, 'I was the last man standing.'     2023-03-301h 14Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastFriends and ourselvesNatalie and Jenna are back with a conversation about friendship.  What does friendship mean to us?  What makes a good friend?  How do friendships change as you become a Mum?  Join us in this honest chat about our friendship selves. 2023-03-1440 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastPippa’s story - On your voiceIn this deep dive conversation, Natalie chats to our first ever mum guest, Pippa Nixon.  Mother of soon to be three and actress, Pippa shares her journey through birth using her voice as a powerful tool. 'Your authentic self is being 'on your voice', you cannot lie from that place.' A fascinating conversation where sound in birth takes centre stage. 2023-02-2846 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastThe days are longIn our tenth episode, Jenna goes it alone while Natalie is at a birth and talks about the monotony of motherhood, the mental load we carry and shares how meditation is supporting her through this with a soothing relaxation for you to enjoy at the end. 2023-01-3121 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastGrowing upOur conversation around child development concludes in this episode. With so much pressure on mothers these days to be everything for their children, Natalie and Jenna explore how children grow up and what our role is as mothers while they do this.   2023-01-0555 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastMumsickOur eighth episode and the second half of our down to birth chat leads us into looking at ourselves as mothers.  We continue to explore the idea of child development and what it means to us.  We reflect on how we mothered first time around to now and we come to realise what it is our babies actually need... 2022-11-1542 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastDown to birthIn honour of Down Syndrome Awareness Month, Jenna begins to share her journey with her son, Jude.  This conversation began exploring the theme of child development but in true mothers talking style, it takes on a life of it's own. Please be aware that we discuss some emotional and sensitive topics in this episode including termination. Please check out the new campaign, 'you-can't-put-us-down syndrome' at www.positiveaboutdownsyndrome.co.uk 2022-10-1945 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastHow to have a baby for second time mumsIn the final part of our How to Have a Baby trilogy, Jenna and Natalie discuss second time births.  How they are different, why they are different and how this can help you relax and prepare for your second birth, no matter how your first birth unfolded. This episode was recorded in 2020 as part of our How to Have a Baby series on youtube.  We released it at the height of the pandemic to try and soothe pregnant mums when maternity care was ever changing.  2022-09-261h 01Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastHow to have a baby and room twoIn episode five of Mothers talking, we continue our conversation about Natalie's brilliant concept from her book How to Have a Baby.  Room two, or the more familiar term, established labour, is discussed in great detail...what labour actually is, how it feels, how to manage it and all the benefits of going through it, did you know you'll glitter?  If you're about to have a baby then this episode is for you. This episode was recorded in 2020 as part of our How to Have a Baby series on youtube.  We released it at the height of the...2022-09-121h 30Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastHow to have a baby and room oneIn our fourth episode for Mothers talking, we delve into room one, Natalie's brilliant concept from her book How to Have a Baby.  This insightful way to look at labour gives mothers a map for pacing themselves during birth and how fried eggs can make all the difference. This episode was recorded in 2020 as part of our How to Have a Baby series on youtube.  We released it at the height of the pandemic to try and soothe pregnant mums when maternity care was ever changing.  2022-09-0552 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastBirth feelsIf you ask two doulas how birth feels, it's going to be a long conversation...in our third episode of Mothers Talking, Jenna and Natalie chat about the sensations of birth and try and answer the question most pregnant mums want to know, what does labour actually feel like? 2022-06-211h 07Mothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastA mother’s instinctIn our second Mothers Talking episode, Jenna and Natalie chat about instinct.  How do you define instinct?  Do you listen to yours? Can you trust it?  Come and have a listen and join in the conversation... 2022-06-0750 minMothers talking podcastMothers talking podcastThose first feelings of motherhoodIn this first ever episode of Mothers Talking, 1 of 3 in this feelings trilogy, Natalie and Jenna chat about those very first feelings of motherhood, an honest and open conversation about the early days and weeks with your first baby.       2022-05-2450 min