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Making It AwkwardWhat Mike Tyson's MAHA Super Bowl Ad is Really Saying; with Tigress Osborn, NAAFA Executive Director Tigress Osborn, Executive Director of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance returns to the show to discuss Mike Tyson's Super Bowl ad for MAHA and the inverted food triangle. The fat shaming ad is part of an ongoing appeal to the manly man, providing us with boxer Mike Tyson telling us about how he wanted to kill himself when he was fat, and telling us all that "something needs to be done about processed food in this country." It's an ad for realfood.gov and was directed by Brett Ratner who directed the Amazon financed film Melania. Tony...
2026-02-191h 02
Making It AwkwardHeated Rivalry: Parasociality, Straight Women's Sexuality, and the Cultural Response with Lindsay Lee WallaceLindsay Lee Wallace returns to talk about why she thinks women who have sex with men are drawn to Heated Rivalry. She wrote in, Yearning and Submission in 'Heated Rivalry', "Women who yearn and submit are often main characters—but they are simultaneously seen as frivolous and typical. Their yearning and submission aren't treated as meaningful, or as specific to them and their relationships… So it can feel easier and freer to step back from the equation entirely. Watch two men yearn for one another, which maintains their masculinity." Lindsay and Jessica talk about that articl...
2026-02-1252 min
Making It AwkwardHeated Rivalry: Queerness, Coming Out and the Hags That Move the Story Along with Blake Flaugher, MPHBlake Flaugher, MPH returns to the show to chat about all things Heated Rivalry. He shares some topics that have been left out of the discourse, and teaches us about the importance of seeing romance in gay relationships, the role of hags in gay men's lives, and representation of bottoming. Blake and Jessica share their coming out stories, discuss if we're beyond conversations about coming out, and their thoughts on body norms in the show. The topics they discuss today will add to the story if you've watched it, it will give you a unique lens should you choose t...
2026-02-0559 min
Making It AwkwardBonus Episode: Community Commitment and MAHA Hypocrisy; F*** ICEF*** ICE. This bonus episode shares the stories of immigration and ICE occupation from Making it Awkward guests. Hear stories of immigrants in LA, what it's like to be on the ground in Minneapolis right now, and a story from a mom in Charlotte deliverying groceries to neighbors too afraid to leave their homes. HCMC protest https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/breaking-the-news/hcmc-doctors-staff-protest-ice-impact-hospital-patients/89-3696c23f-6afb-44ea-8e02-7286543dabdd Smitten Kitten https://smittenkittenonline.com/ Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions abo...
2026-01-2919 min
Making It AwkwardJessica's Monch Monch Ad & Dr. Robert Lustig's Fiber FailJessica Wilson, MS. RD. made a social media ad for Dr. Robert Lustig's Monch Monch; a fiber supplement that's supposed to act like a sponge in our digestive tract. Now listeners get to hear the ins and outs of the partnership and about the supplement from top to bottom. Our favorite podcast editor Jen Jacobs returns to this side of the show to hear about the whole commercial making process, behind the scenes conversations, science claims, typos and product reviews. The two have a great time! This episode includes product reviews from former guests on the show, f...
2026-01-221h 00
Making It AwkwardThe Manly Man's Inverted Food Triangle: Dissecting the Dietary Guidelines with Meghan Cichy MPH, RDN.The Dietary Guidelines for Americans are out RFK Jr decided to give us an inverted food triangle and tell us it's a new and improved food pyramid. Dietitian and public health badass Meghan Cichy, MPH RDN returns to the show to discuss the new dietary guidelines and the focus on "real food". She walks Jessica through all of the public health language and limitations and also asks who all of this is for. The two compare recommendations in old guidelines to the current ones, including protein serving sizes. The two chat about how RFK wanted t...
2026-01-151h 02
Making It AwkwardThought Hygiene: Manifesting, Magical Thinking and OCD with Lindsay Lee WallaceHave you been thinking clean thoughts and manifesting for 2026? Lindsay Lee Wallace returns to the show to talk about the idea of thought hygiene, OCD, magical thinking and manifesting. Lindsay shares the highlights of the conversation she had with a manifestation coach and she brings her thoughts about wellness as a line item in your budget. Lindsay and Jessica start the episode with a discussion about Dr. Robert Lustig and his company's first product, Monch Monch, a supposed fiber sponge that soaks up sugar. A quick note that the Dietary Guidelines for...
2026-01-0848 min
Making It AwkwardChildfree By Choice; Joyful, Unapologetic Childfree Women Frighten the PatriarchyRe-release! Chrissy King joins Jessica Wilson, MS RD for a conversation about being childfree by choice. Chrissy talks about how she made her decision and how Jessica didn't ever think it was a choice she needed to make. Chrissy got to share her thoughts on many things including the marketing of parenthood, the idea of it taking a village to raise a child and aging like the Golden Girls. The two talk about how they've been asked about their decision not to have kids 347 times but it's not the norm to randomly ask parents why they decided t...
2026-01-0156 min
Making It AwkwardThe Caucacity of the Mediterranean Diet with Sherene Chou, MS. RDN.Re-release! Jessica talks with Sherene Chou about the whiteness of the Mediterranean Diet and its origins. The two chat about their mixed reviews of speaking at Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health's Healthy Kitchens Healthy Lives. Sherene discusses a variety of "healthy diets" out there and how they fall short of meeting the moment. She also spills the beans on the next superfood. Jessica is very excited that Sherene has worked at the restaurant at the center of Bad Vegan! Should the two watch and review for an episode!? Blue Zones, Planetary Diet/EAT-Lancet d...
2025-12-251h 05
Making It AwkwardCalley Means is In Over His Head and Giving True Crime Vibes with Selena Salfen, MFA., MPH., RDN.Calley Means has returned to the White House as a Senior Advisor supporting food and nutrition policy. Since his return the Dietary Guidelines have been delayed and should(may) now be delivered to us in January 2026. Additionally, TIME has reported that there may be a return to the Food Pyramid in the updated Guidelines. Selena Salfen returns to the show to share the many reasons why Calley should be a White House intern and not a Senior Advisor, and definitely not in charge of nutrition policy. Jessica and Selena discuss Calley's "documentary" Breaking Big Food; a...
2025-12-111h 09
Making It AwkwardRe-Grifting: Casey and Calley Means; Taking Truemed to the White House with Selena Salfen, MPH, RDNSelena Selfan, MPH, RD is back for the next installment in the re-grifting series! She is the resident Means Siblings Scholar and talks to host Jessica Wilson, MS RD about her deep dive! Dr. Casey Means is currently the presumptive nominee for Surgeon General. Her brother Calley Means is a special advisor to RFK Jr and cofounder of Truemed. The two are fervent MAHA supporters and foot soldiers in RFK's fight. Listeners will learn about the Means siblings's upbringing and the love and support for their parents. And then plot twist: their father, Grady Means wrote a...
2025-11-261h 10
Making It AwkwardAutism Research Ethics and the Exploitation of Alternative Stats with Jocelyn GreenJocelyn Green of @audhd_academic joins Jessica to discuss the concept of "losing an autism diagnosis" and what's often missing when discussing autism research. The two discuss the limitations of autism statistics and how their misuse can become unethical. They also talk about disability, what conditions may present to make someone seek an autism diagnosis later in adulthood, support needs for autistic people, and of course RFK. This conversation was inspired by last week's episode with Dr. Theresa Lyons and includes listener feedback. Dr. Lyons anchored her work in the idea that 37% of autistic kids will lose...
2025-11-1945 min
Making It AwkwardOne Mother's Quest to Help Autistic Kids Lose Their Diagnosis with Dr. Theresa LyonsToday Dr. Theresa Lyons, founder and CEO of Navigating AWEtism joins Making it Awkward. She reached out to Jessica sharing that as an Ivy League scientist and mom to a non-speaking autistic daughter, she's used her expertise to guide other parents of autistic children. Dr. Lyons introduces a study that says 37% of kids can go on to lose their autism diagnosis and Jessica has follow-up questions. Their conversation includes discussions about folinic acid, sleep, dysbiosis, diet, Tylenol and camel milk. There will be follow-up episodes to come! Teresa has offered to return to the show t...
2025-11-121h 02
Making It AwkwardBubonic and Iconic: Plague History--From Rodents to Racism with Dr. Bethany JohnsonDr. Bethany Johnson returns to the show to share the deep history of the plague, and how we should be thinking about it today. She talks about how anti-Chinese and anti-Mexican sentiment impacted the mitigation and spread of the plague in the early 1900s. Bethany also talks about how climate change may impact infectious disease, antibiotic resistance, lyme disease, pet safety, mitigation measures, and what the defunding of government organizations will mean for us. She also has advice for all of those of us–and our dads out there–with wood piles in our backyard. Plus a...
2025-11-0645 min
Making It AwkwardAutism Solved; Conspiracy Ken Strikes AgainWe've been a lot of places with RFK Jr, his conspiracy theories, magical thinking, lies, his meltdowns in front of Senate committees, and seen that he doesn't understand half of the things he talks about. Exhibit A: He thinks babies are grown in placentas Let's make sure we're clear on RFK's indisputable, irrefutable cause of autism going forward. Today I share his gold standard science-certified cause of autism. Selena Salfen's quote Tylenol ad Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Leave a r...
2025-11-0303 min
Making It AwkwardOut of Institutions and Into Society; Community Mental Health Treatment with Kyle Davis, MSW, LICSWKyle Davis, MSW, LICSW, joins the show to talk about his experience with Assertive Community Treatment for supporting people with severe and persistent mental illness. He shares details of that model today and what autonomy can actually look like when people are out of institutions and living in society. In Jessica's interview with psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, Dr. Carole shared her belief that one of the biggest problems in psychiatry is that people with mental illness were released from institutions, and given the least restrictive environment for their care. This claim warranted a full follow-up episode and Kyle joined...
2025-10-3051 min
Making It AwkwardMAHA Won't Pay For a Candy Bar, But We're Paying For Measles; Dr. Carole 2.0 MAHA and Cuteservatives are okay with spending millions on measles outbreaks yet want to control people's food choices in the name of "health." People are able to buy raw milk with SNAP, yet shouldn't be allowed to buy a candybar? The math is not mathing. Today's episode is a follow up to the episode released 10/1/25, "Fauci Needs to Be Locked Up!" with Dr. Carole Lieberman. Jessica responds to some of Dr. Carole's claims, and has a good time with her own acronym for ways to avoid getting COVID. THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS! Buy raw milk with S...
2025-10-2330 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Release! Poppers 101, RFK Jr, B*tt Stuff and the State of Sex Ed with Blake Flaugher, MPHJessica Wilson, MS. RD. is joined by Blake Flaugher, MPH, to give Jessica a full breakdown of poppers and RFK Jr.'s AIDS denialism. Jessica is very curious about butt stuff and Blake expertly answers her questions. He also answers a listener question about the spectrum of asexuality. The two have this conversation at a brewery and got the opportunity to make things awkward! Blake updates Jessica on the state of sex education in 2025 and shares what he's found grounding and motivating as he continues to do this work. Blake's first Making it Awkward e...
2025-10-0955 min
Making It AwkwardFauci Needs to Be Locked Up! With "The Terrorist Therapist," Dr. Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H.Psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H. joins Jessica Wilson, M.S. RD. for a robust conversation about COVID, Dr. Fauci, RFK Jr., the MAHA report and whether supplements can fix our mental health. Dr. Carole specializes in the psychology of terrorism, criminal behavior, and political breakdown. She's a frequent guest on Fox News, Newsmax, OAN, and leading patriot platforms. Her bold insights expose how psychological tactics once used by foreign enemies are now being weaponized against the American people. Dr. Lieberman connects the dots between radical indoctrination, media-fueled hysteria, and how psychological warfare is n...
2025-10-0239 min
Making It AwkwardThe Fetishization of Asian Women and Subverting Stereotypes with Kaila YuKaila Yu, author of the newly released Fetishized; A Reckoning with Yellow Fever, Feminism, and Beauty, joins Jessica Wilson, MS RD the show to talk about the fetishization of Asian women. Kaila reflects on the women in the media who influenced her, and her path into the pinup and import modeling industry. She devotes a chapter to the book and film Memoirs of a Geisha and Jessica and Kaila talk about the ways the book and movie continue to impact societal views of Asian women. They also got into the origins of the model minority my...
2025-09-2543 min
Making It AwkwardThe MAHA Strategy Report: Policy Amateur Hour with Trampus Harmon, Selena Salfen, MPH RD, and Meghan Cichy, MPH RDMAHA's Making Our Children Healthy Again Strategy Report is out, and "strategy" is a generous term for this document. Beef farmer Trampus Harmon and public health dietitians Selena Salfen and Meghan Cichy return to the show to share their thoughts. Post production note: Dr. Casey Means has resumed the path to becoming Surgeon General and is declaring her conflicts of interest. Dr. Jessica Knurick newsletter Marion Nestle Wellness Farms RFK Jr on autism Trampus on collagen and beef tallow Trampus on raw milk Me...
2025-09-1841 min
Making It AwkwardLeveling Down: Levels Health, CGMs and the False Promises of Data-Driven Health with Selena Salfen and Meghan CichyWould you ever add chia seeds to your latte? Levels Health, a health-tech startup co-founded by presumptive Surgeon General Casey Means, is a deeply unserious company and provides both hilarious and irresponsible guidance on its app. Public health dietitians Selena Salfen and Meghan Cichy return to the show to discuss our 30 days of using a CGM paired with the Levels app. Jessica didn't find what she was looking for in her CGM data and laughed at the app's inaccuracies. Meghan thought she was working harder than Levels, and found both more helpful and nic...
2025-09-111h 16
Making It AwkwardUltra-Processed Food Hysteria, Reader Meltdowns, and Nutrition Reporting with Jamie Ducharme!Journalist Jamie Ducharme joins the show for the 100th episode!! She talks with Jessica about her experiences after the TIME magazine article, "Still Processing; Not all Ultra-Processed Foods are the same. Or, some argue, even unhealthy."* was published. RFK Jr entered the chat about the article and things got a bit out of hand. The two talk about food as identity and nutrition journalism today and why there seems to be a lot of stories that don't add much to the conversation. *This is the print edition title. The online title changed to Why One Diet...
2025-09-0445 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Grifting: Bryan Johnson's Blueprint and the Cult of Longevity with Jen JacobsBryan Johnson made a fortune and then decided to spend it on rivaling Jesus Christ and developing his Blueprint supplement line. Johnson was born, raised and married Mormon before leaving that religion and family to pursue eternal life on his own. He is the health and tech crossover personified. His quest for longevity has led him to replace his plasma with that of his teenage son, and receive gene therapy in an unregulated area of Honduras. Johnson's life is pretty much an algorithm, which is fitting because he believes we should fire ourselves because our brains can't b...
2025-08-281h 14
Making It AwkwardWearable Devices and "the Delusion of Knowledge" with Dr. Maisha DavisDr. Maisha Davis joins the pod for a hilarious chat about using constant glucose monitoring devices (CGMs), the Levels app and the Oura ring. The two talk about how and why collecting and reviewing health data can be comforting to some people, and also how using a CGM could be a slippery slope. Jessica and Maisha are currently using the Dexcom 7 and they share what their experiences have been using that brand. Maisha took extra steps to calibrate the CGM while Jessica didn't go through the trouble and the two talk about how a CGM is only a...
2025-08-2137 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Release! Part 2: "No food is better than bad food" says UCSF's Dr. LustigWhat can listeners take from Jessica's conversation with Dr. Robert Lustig? She looks at the interview through a historical lens and addresses eugenics and war. She then shares some possible present day applications. Jessica also shares feedback she's gotten from listeners and from a few people working for UCSF. Lustig's article in Frontiers: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2023.1098453/full You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions about the...
2025-08-1430 min
Making It AwkwardKetogenic Diets For Epilepsy: Jessica's Keto Experience with Dr. Lexi Brown Dr. Lexi Brown returns to the show to talk to Jessica about her hospitalization last year and the options she was given to treat her epilepsy. Not interested in brain surgery, Jessica was willing to try the next option: a ketogenic diet. Since January Jessica has been trialing a ketogenic diet to mixed results, mostly due to her questionable choices. Today she's sharing what impact the diet has had on her for the past seven months and what she, reluctantly, should do going forward. Lexi talks to Jessica about taking her health seriously and how she should go about...
2025-08-071h 06
Making It AwkwardConstant Glucose Monitoring and the Levels App; an Experiment with Selena Salfen MPH RDRFK Jr wants us all to be using wearable devices! Presumptive Surgeon General, Casey Means, co-founded Levels Health which pledges to unlock our metabolic health through the use of a constant glucose monitor(CGM). What is a CGM, what promises are made by Levels, and should we care? Jessica and Selena Salfen are going to find out! The two have teamed up in August to use a CGM, link it to Levels and let the app work its biometric magic. The two will be optimized in just two weeks, according to Dr. Robert Lustig, medical advisor to Levels.
2025-07-3132 min
Making It AwkwardRe-release: "No food is better than bad food" says UCSF's Dr. Lustig. Part 1Re-release! Originally published 9/14/23. After receiving an email from Dr. Robert Lustig about his concerns with Jessica's work she was fortunate enough to catch Dr. Lustig on the phone for this interview. In addition to giving her advice on what to tell a patient who needed to choose between a can of ravioli or nothing he shared his beliefs about calories, metabolic health, starvation, and how he distinguishes between what an eating disorder is and what it's not. Content Note: This episode discusses topics that may be distressing to those who are food insecure, live in areas of...
2025-07-1735 min
Making It AwkwardThe Womanosphere, Food Politics and the Next Body IdealJessica is joined by Lindsay Lee Wallace for the second of two episodes about the womanosphere. The two talk about the performance of the womanosphere, and more of the media side of things including skinnytok and Evie magazine. Evie magazine is the conservative magazine for cis women that encourages us to seek truth and find beauty. Jessica gets the honor of introducing the new body ideal to Lindsay and hears her response. Lindsay and Jessica start by talking about the politics of food and the connections to UPF hysteria. Slim Secrets of Slavic Women ...
2025-07-1032 min
Making It AwkwardThe Womanosphere, Cuteservatives, and Choice Feminism with Cecily Nelson-AlfordThe womanosphere is here! Are we ready? In the first of two episodes exploring the womanosphere and what it means for us, dietitian and author Jessica Wilson is joined by Cecily Nelson-Alford to talk about feminism and gender. The two discuss Evie Magazine, social media and why the messages of the womanosphere might be appealing. Cecily talks about how value is attached to womanhood in society and she connects it all with a discussion of the Overton window. Fox and Hen bonnets Young conservative women build an alternative to the manosphere Like this e...
2025-07-0338 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Release! Queerness, Christianity, & 50% Off Ozempic for Pride!? with Kent Thomas, MSW50% off Ozempic for Pride!!! Jessica heads back to NYC this year, this time over Pride weekend rather than before. A year ago Kent Thosmas, MSW joined Jessica to talk about this ad and her visit to the clinic offering the deal, and what this means for gay men. Kent shared how his Christianity played into his eating disorder and the two talk about queer men, and how religion, queerness, and health are connected. They also talk about the normate body and hardness for gay men. Kent's original reel Dr. Jeff Iovanonne A...
2025-06-2646 min
Making It AwkwardHolding Onto Hope and Humanity; ICE, Palestine and Black LiberationJessica Wilson, MS RD is joined by Malak (whose last name and appearance we're not sharing to protect her safety) to discuss the intersections of ICE, Palestine and Black liberation. Malak was recently a part of a mental health delegation that traveled to Palestine and shares the stories of those she met. The two talk settler colonialism, surveillance and over policing. They also talk about a shared humanity, and how people and these fights are not about here vs there. She provides language and context for the wars and battles raging around us and the importance of...
2025-06-1942 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Grifting: Paul Saladino and His Carnivore Creep with Beef Farmer Trampus HarmonPaul Saladino is LOUD and literally banks on fear. He thinks we live in a zoo. He used to be a carnivore and sold the idea, and then started eating plants. He's said many deeply ridiculous and dangerous things. He is the reason Erewhon has a raw meat smoothie and the primary reason we overthink seed oils. He knows how much meat Jessica should eat in a day. He's a Lot. Clips of his claims are sprinkled throughout this podcast. Trampus Harmon of Harmon and Son Beef returns to the show to talk about Paul and his c...
2025-06-1251 min
Making It AwkwardRe-release!: Making It Awkward at UCSF's Trans Health Summit, with Calvin Gilbert, FNPThis podcast's origin story! Originally airing 10/26/23 Jessica is joined by nurse practitioner Calvin Gilbert to recount their presentation about weight stigma in trans care at UCSF's 2023 Trans Health Summit and what led to a medical doctor being escorted out of the room. Jessica talks with Calvin about what happened the previous day and why it motivated her to start Making it Awkward and make a name tag for herself that says "Arts and Crafts Manager." Jessica is returning to the same conference this week! She will be wearing her name tag and looking for the same people...
2025-05-2927 min
Making It AwkwardPronatalism, Eugenics, Fertility and Climate Justice with Dr. Eoin FlahertyThe Trump administration has talked about using awards, scholarships and cash as incentives to have more children. People see Elon as a leader in pronatalism conversations. Dr. Eoin Flaherty is back on the show to connect the dots between population control, pronatalism, and the environment. Eoin talks with Jessica about the Better Baby fairs of the 1900s and the two talk about how race is the underpinning of pronatalism even if no one speaks about it directly. The two talk about fertility hysteria, and the difference between fertility rates and birth rates. Eoin shares what research is...
2025-05-221h 17
Making It Awkward100 Days of Hellth and the MAHA Commission with Meghan Cichy, MPH, RDN and Selena Salfen, MPH, RDNIt's been 100 days of Hellth in America and boy do we need a vacation. This week Jessica is joined by dietitians Meghan Cichy and Selena Salfen to discuss what has happened in public health this year, and break down the MAHA Commission. They talk through what RFK Jr. and MAHA have been up to and how it will impact childhood nutrition. Jessica asks Selena and Meghan what happened to "childhood obesity." Jessica starts the episode with some brief nutrition policy updates. Dad is back to read a couple of reviews.
2025-05-0152 min
Making It AwkwardBeef Tallow and the Ethics of Colostrum Supplements with Dr. Sarah Dougherty and Trampus HarmonHow do we get beef tallow and is it actually less processed than seed oils? And if companies are using colostrum for their supplements, are they taking it away from baby cows? Dr. Sarah Dougherty and Beef farmer Trampus Harmon return to the show for a spirited conversation about the renaissance of cow byproducts. Trampus explains how he makes tallow at home and discusses market trends for cow byproducts. Jessica shares the claims made by Bloom and Armra about how they source their colostrum and Sarah explains all that would need to go into a colostrum supplement...
2025-04-2449 min
Making It Awkward5G, Conspiracies and the Post-Truth Era with Dr. Eoin Flaherty of Maynooth UniversityHave you wondered how 5G conspiracies developed or what makes some people more vulnerable to conspiracy theories? Today Jessica talks with Dr. Eoin Flaherty, assistant professor at Maynooth University to find the answers to these questions and many others. The two talk about conspiracism and the post-truth era in which we're living. Dr. Flaherty explains 5G and why some people believe it's dangerous. The two talk about Wi-Fi and 5G-free chicken, RFK Jr., how conspiracies generate and spread and Jessica asks him if she could be the next one to spread a theory of her own...
2025-04-1747 min
Making It AwkwardRe-release! Making America Healthy Again; Part 2Re-release Making America Healthy Again Part 2! Original air date: 10/31/24. Jessica talks with three guests for their reflections on her interview with Jeff Hutt, spokesperson for the Make America Healthy Again PAC and shares email feedback from a listener and her 18 year old daughter. Medical sociologist Dr. Natalie Ingraham joins the show to talk about the people part of MAHA and the concept of "again." Jessica discusses the interviews of Calley Means and Charlie Kirk that she dove into. Natalie talks about the regulations of the 80s versus 90s and has some solutions we could try...
2025-04-101h 01
Making It AwkwardGreat British Bake-Off's Mike Wilkins on Farming and Queer Life in the UKGreat British Bake-Off alum Mike Wilkins joins the show to talk about farming and queerness in the UK! He is a fourth -generation farmer, working alongside his family on their farm, Nolands. He has a weekly Instagram series about what he's been up to on the farm and it's an absolute joy to watch. In this episode Jessica and Mike chat about the intersections among farming, queerness and mental health. A note that this episode talks about farmers' contemplating ending their own lives to save their farms. Mike is an advocate for the LGBTQ+ community within farming, and was an...
2025-04-041h 00
Resilience Gone Wild (WinWinWin Mindset)Up Close and Personal: Connecting Children with Nature – A Lifelong Journey with Ruth Wilson (Episode 33)Summary
In this episode of Resilience Gone Wild, Jessica Morgenthal speaks with Ruth Wilson, a lifelong advocate for nature-based education and author of Nature and Young Children. Together, they explore how connecting children with nature supports mental health, physical well-being, cognitive development, and spiritual growth. The conversation dives into the concept of nature deficit disorder—a term coined by Richard Louv—and why unstructured time in nature is essential for kids. Ruth shares personal insights on the power of outdoor play, sensory experiences, and reciprocal relationships with the natural world, encouraging families and educators to cultivate awe, joy, an...
2025-04-0200 min
Making It AwkwardCrack, Cheetos & Cigarettes; Soda Taxes Pt. 2 with Blake Flaugher MPH and Raeann Bowlds MPHSoda taxes take 2. Jesica is joined by Raeann Bowlds, MPH and Blake Flaugher, MPH to discuss Dr. Kelly Brownell's claims that crack, soda, Cheetos, and baby formula do the same things in our brains and our bodies. The three talk about tobacco and soda taxes to see if the two are the same, and what Berkeley CA has done (or hasn't done) with its soda tax revenue. Jessica asked Blake and Raeann to teach her about public health because she couldn't understand it if the steps to make healthy food a human right were addressing predatory marketing and adding...
2025-03-2745 min
Making It AwkwardMAHA Moms, Measles and Medical History with Dr. Bethany JohnsonJessica Wilson is joined by medical historian Dr. Bethany Johnson of University of South Carolina* to talk everything measles: their history, what we should know, what won't treat them, and what happens after someone has them. Bethany gets deep into the medical history of measles and mumps outbreaks and the two talk about RFK's claim that everyone got measles when he was a kid and it all worked out fine. Bethany also deconstructs RFK's cocktail for treating the Texas outbreak. She invites RFK to put his immunity where his mouth is and will definitely be back on the show...
2025-03-2053 min
Making It AwkwardShare Diabetes with Maria? Soda Taxes Pt 1 with Dr. Kelly BrownellJessica Wilson, MS RD is joined by Dr. Kelly Brownell, Director Emeritus of the World Food Policy Center at Duke University. The two talk about soda taxes, food systems, policy, and marketing. Jessica asks Dr. Brownell about the Duke World Food Policy Center's Identifying and Countering White Supremacy Culture in Food Systems report. And to wrap up, Dr. Brownell shares how he thinks we achieve healthy food as a human right. The show wants your feedback on this episode for Part 2! You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com ShopRite in Philadelphia Be...
2025-03-1342 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Grifting: Dr. Andrew Huberman's Long Con with Tessa RapaczynskiJessica Wilson is joined by author Tessa Rapaczynski for the next episode in the re-grifting series. Tessa's article for Medium titled "The Long Con and dirty dong of Andrew Huberman, PhD" immediately caught my eye. Today's episode is their conversation about the evolution of Huberman and his path from nerdy professor who didn't leave his lab to podcast bro with 7.3 million followers and multiple identities. The two discuss Tessa's initial connection to Huberman and his work and the evolution of Wellness spaces to use words like "optimization." The two also reference the Mar. 25, 2024,New Yorker a...
2025-03-0651 min
Making It AwkwardBonus: Eating Disorder Awareness Week x Black History Month: Me Little Me ReturnsEating disorder awareness week is this week and it falls during Black History Month. Tigress Osborn, Dr. Whitney Trotter, Angela Goens and Elizabeth Ayiku return to the pod to talk about these intersections and Elizabeth's film Me Little Me. Elizabeth first talked about the film on the pod 11/7/24. They chat about their thoughts on the film, how it's been received at festivals and by the eating disorder field at large. They end by discussing how folks can support this important film! You can buy awkward merch! You can contact the...
2025-02-2840 min
Making It Awkward#Farmlife at Harmon and Son Beef! The Trump Administration's Impact on Farmers and the Food SupplySkittle-fed beef? Jessica joined recent guests Dr. Sarah Dougherty and Mackenzie Behrle at Harmon and Son Beef in Grants Pass, OR for a farm tour and chat with recent guest Trampus Harmon. Jessica went to the farmers market there and got to talk to folks about raw milk, RFK Jr and vaccines in a red county. She shares those conversations today. Then the four of them gathered in Trampus's living room for a wide ranging conversation that includes skittle-fed cows, this administration's impact on farming and the safety of the food supply. You heard from Co...
2025-02-2744 min
Making It AwkwardAn Intro to Farm Subsidies and Cheese Caves! With Mackenzie BehrleThis week registered dietitian Jessica Wilson chats with agricultural teacher, Mackenzie Berhle, about farm subsidies and cheese caves. Mackenzie talks about agricultural check off programs, and the dairy buyout (or buy back) program. They discuss got milk? and milk in school lunches. The two get into Big Cheese, and cheese caves and Jessica is very confused about where and to whom the money, milk and cheese flow. Also, Mackenzie shares her experience checking out farming in caves and her incredibly expensive cheese. Links: Check off...
2025-02-2054 min
Making It AwkwardDad Content then The Guy Who Helped Coin the Phrase That Led Us to FascismJessica's dad is back to read some podcast feedback and some brief thoughts on RFK Jr. You'll hear Jen and Jessica were called mean girls Jessica can't disprove the "science" of Mark Hyman Proof that mercury doesn't cause autism How people don't realize two things can be true at the same time How her dad feels about getting his vitamins via IV therapy. Then the rest of this episode is for the new folks, the seasoned listeners who want a refresher or were too afraid to listen to my interview with Jeff Hutt the f...
2025-02-131h 00
Making It AwkwardConspiracy Ken Gets Confirmed- RFK Jr. Will Never Be Ken-EnoughWhat's left to say? After episodes about vaccines and just general science. Jessica has been thinking about what she could add to the RFK Jr. conversation and realized there's something that hasn't been quite clear. As dangerous as Kennedy's anti-science stance is, he is also incredibly basic. Today Jessica is joined by Dr. Natalie Ingraham to review both the Senate Finance Committee and Senate HELP Committee hearings and recent developments along the path to HHS Secretary. The two talk about how he was caught in his lies, his grilling by Senator Warren, and his quote about Black p...
2025-02-0644 min
Making It AwkwardThe Ultra-Processed Food Hysteria to Trad Wife Pipeline with Lindsay Lee WallaceJessica's UPF experiment has been in the news again! She invited journalist Lindsay Lee Wallace back to the show to see if the two could answer some questions: How has the ultra-processed food hysteria impacted politics today? And what the heck is happening with the news media? The two talk about gender, the recent UPF coverage, who has been interviewing Jessica recently, the feedback she's gotten, and a surprise email Jessica received. Articles discussed in this episode: Slate and Daily Mail NYT UPF week Washington post had this Th...
2025-01-3039 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Grifting: Dr. Mark HymanJessica Wilson, MS RD is joined by pod editor Jen Jacobs to kick off the Re-Grifting series. Dr. Mark Hyman is the first to be featured having introduced himself to Jessica over instagram. He is a co-founder of health-tech start-up Function Health and a huge fan of supplements. Mark was part of the group of food-fluencers who influenced the FDA to ban red dye no. 3. The NYT recently had a profile about the development of his wellness empire and his bromance and collaborations with RFK Jr. A few of the articles mentioned: The Da...
2025-01-2358 min
Making It AwkwardBird Flu, Biology, Raw Milk & Pet Safety with Dr. Sarah Dougherty, DVMDr. Sarah Dougherty, DVM joins Jessica Wilson, MS RD to talk about everything from bird flu and raw milk, to bovine colostrum, Ivermectin, how to interpret research, probiotics for pets, influencers, and how to keep our pets safe and healthy when it comes to bird flu and pet food. Jessica asks her what she's most concerned about with the incoming administration. Sarah also shares a bit about her upbringing which includes living down the road from last week's guest farmer Trampus Harmon! Pet rescue resources You can buy awkward merch! You c...
2025-01-1637 min
Making It AwkwardThe Raw Milk Divide with Farmer Trampus HarmonBeef farmer (and former dairy farmer) Trampus Harmon joins dietitian Jessica Wilson to talk about raw milk. We've seen the rise of raw milk influencer-culture and Jessica wanted to talk with someone who knows the ins and outs of dairy cow farming. The two chat about the safety of raw milk and how influencers are impacting the farming landscape. Trampus introduces Jessica to the dairy buyback program which she will explore in future episodes. Trampus answers some listener questions and helps Jessica interpret a viral video about grass fed beef. Bonus voice memo from Dr. Jeff Sherman-Duncan! ...
2025-01-0949 min
Making It AwkwardWe Saw This Coming; Glancing Back and Gearing Up for 2025We knew what was coming in 2025. Through the conversations on this podcast about food processing and collective health anxiety we got a front row seat to watch how people have moved to extreme views about food and our health. We've seen it mobilize groups of people to defy what should be common sense about food safety, and basic science. We've also seen how people, particularly white men, respond specifically to Jessica when she asks if something is inherently unhealthy if we can't define it. From those responses we see how so much of this isn't about food a...
2025-01-0219 min
Making It AwkwardNeurodivergence and Girl Dinner with Dr. Lexi Brown-Re-releaseRe-release: Jessica and Lexi share many of the ways their brains work differently and the tips and tools they've adopted to navigate a neurotypical world. Lexi shares her experiences with disordered eating and some things that she's found to be helpful as she works on having less all-or-nothing eating habits. They share what it was like to be locked down in a small house with three adults and two dogs the first two years of the pandemic. And lastly, Lexi introduces Jessica to the concept of a girl dinner. T...
2024-12-2653 min
Making It AwkwardFlavor Maxiamalists and Minimalists in America with PopsA gluten-flugen-dog? Social media has introduced us to those who want the most flavor, texture, color and creativity in their food and, conversely, those who avoid even salt and might not even cook their food to kill pathogens. Tiktok has given us a window into kitchens around the country. From jello salad to quinoa salad and raw chicken to hot dogs impaled with spaghetti noodles, boiled then painted with sauce and two different kinds of cheese before going in a toasted bun (the gluten-flugen-dog), Jessica has watched with amusement. In more recent times she's seen people cut...
2024-12-1927 min
Making It AwkwardMSG, spice and all things nice!What is MSG, and what's with all of the sh*t talking? Jessica gets answers to these questions with the help of dietitian Cara Harbstreet and a few research rabbit holes. Jessica and Cara talk about how a (maybe fake?) letter to the New England Journal of Medicine kicked off decades of hysteria about "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome." The true author of that letter has been in question for years and the story takes a couple sharp turns. Science has largely debunked the negative impacts of MSG–but, sadly, that doesn't always impact public perception. Jessica also has se...
2024-12-1239 min
Making It AwkwardShould We Stop Eating Seed Oils? With Dr. Selina WangJessica sits down with Dr. Selina Wang to chat about seed oil hysteria. Dr. Wang teaches Jessica about the health benefits of different oils and what's supposedly so scary about seed oils. The two try to define what makes a seed oil and Dr. Wang discusses what happens when people collapse complex science into a sound bite. You can buy awkward merch! Different kinds of fats Podcast about anti-trans bias of the NYT. Candle commercial from Cheryl Hines, RFK Jr's wife RFK Jr on Fox discussing s...
2024-12-0522 min
Making It AwkwardThe Joy of Reading Romance and the Bliss of a Happy Ending (Re-Release)Jessica sat down with two romance novel reviewers from Smart Bitches, Trashy Books to hear more about the genre and how they got into professional reviewing. They talk about reading romance novels when they were way too young and why they love a happy ending. Jessica asks about the awkward ways that sex scenes can be written and shares what she found when she stepped into the world of dino-human romance which got very spicy. They also share recommendations for folks who are new to romance reading. You can contact the show...
2024-11-2838 min
Making It AwkwardGoing Wild on Health and Fertility with Alison PillRFK Jr could be in charge of this country's health and it will be…wild. Jessica and Alison Pill sat down to talk about it and who might lead the FDA under a Make America Healthy Again regime. The two get into the concern about fertility among MAHA supporters and what this really means: more babies on the pale end of the spectrum please! Jessica recently consulted her own book for answers about how all of this happened. She realized that the answer is simple, she just forgot. The two discuss the man-of-it-all today. A...
2024-11-2138 min
Making It AwkwardElection Reflections; Father Daughter EditionThe popular vote got us. Jessica and her dad reflect on the election and share a few things that may have contributed. Wilson takes issue with many things including non-white people voting for Trump, and what he thinks would happen if he went to a Klan meeting. He also shares why he's not concerned with RFK Jr and what he thinks this podcast will be talking about in years to come. Jessica missed the memo on folks of color voting for Trump and how they must have been promised whiteness. She shares what she will be listening fo...
2024-11-1423 min
Making It AwkwardTreatment in the Real World; Me Little Me Debuts! with Elizabeth AyikuDietitian Jessica Wilson is joined by Elizabeth Ayiku to talk about the award winning film Me Little Me, which Elizabeth wrote and directed. The film is based on her experience with disordered eating and the barriers she faced while seeking treatment. The pair get into the mechanics of indie film production including what it's like to write, direct, cast, and financing a film when the rent is past due. They chat about the realities of many people who need mental health treatment but who aren't able to press pause on their lives and access the time and funding to...
2024-11-0742 min
Making It AwkwardCurlfriends! Hair, Identity, Health and Fat Lib with Whitney Trotter and Tigress OsbornJessica's Curlfriends, Whitney Totter and Tigress Osborn, return to the show to talk about their hair. They share their hair journeys and chat about how hair continues to inform their identities. Hair intersections with eating disorders, mixed-race identity, health and fat liberation are spiritedly discussed! Steven on Love is Blind Hannah Frankson's hair routine Wonderful videos of women's big chops 🥹 Jessica's hairstylist Maya Past Making it Awkward episodes with Tigress and Whitney Whitney's Patreon naafa BIPOC Eating Disorder Conference You can become...
2024-10-2443 min
Making It AwkwardMaking America Healthy Again; Part 1 with Jeff HuttFor the first episode about Make America Healthy Again, Jessica is joined by Mr Jeff Hutt, the spokesperson for the Super PAC. MAHA is "a powerful new political action committee dedicated to advancing the health-focused policies championed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. through the re-election of President Donald Trump." Mr. Hutt provides an overview of the PAC and its principles, and the two have a wide ranging conversation about food, sustainable farming, corporate capture, mama bears, medical freedom and the concept of "again." Jessica is curious about the connections between MAHA, Wellness culture, and her own work...
2024-10-1752 min
Making It AwkwardCan Nutrition Policy Be Purchased? With Sherene ChouJessica is back with fellow dietitian Sherene Chou for an episode about food conglomerates and their connection to the primary dietitian interest organization, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. Jessica starts by recapping the past week's hysteria about the Siete food brand selling to Pepsico for $1.2B, and asks what that means. Jessica then discusses the investments that food conglomerates and interest groups make in Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. She talks to Sherene about her experiences in the Academy, from policy to bullying and burnout, and the influence of food and agriculture conglomerates on h...
2024-10-1033 min
Making It AwkwardWhat a TIME!; "Feedback" & Lessons, Plus Race, Class and Lunchables ft. Patrilie HernandezJessica is back with her thoughts on the TIME Magazine article about her ultra-processed food experiment. She shares her takeaways, her favorite feedback and has some BIG FOOD fun! Patrilie Hernandez then joins Jessica to talk about Dr. Kevin Hall's research on UPFs and the intersections of race and class with food. They then dive into Lunchables-gate, and food hysteria overall. You can become a podcast patron! You can leave an awkward rating and review of this show! You can email the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @j...
2024-09-2646 min
Making It AwkwardNetflix's The Boyfriend & The Chicken Smoothie of it All with Kent ThomasKent Thomas returns to the show to review Netflix's new Japanese reality series, The Boyfriend. The delightful show follows nine gay men who share a home together and start a coffee truck. They need to budget their daily expenses, all while navigating waxing and waning romantic feelings for each other. Kent and Jessica are fixated on what gets in the way of the men sticking to their food budget. The two have a full debrief on the chicken smoothie of it all, and get into the body and relationship norms of the show. Kent's instagram K...
2024-09-1246 min
Making It Awkward"Smoke & Mirrors"; Food Elitism and Wellness Culture With Shana Spence, MS, RDNJessica welcomes Shana Spence, MS RDN, of The Nutrition Tea, to the show to talk about food elitism, Wellness culture and her new book Live Nourished; Make Peace with Food, Banish Body Shame, and Reclaim Joy. Somehow we always get back to anti-diet dietitians making cereal ads. And this time we mention the connection to Anahad O'Connor and his Lose It app. Also, Jessica is in Time Magazine!! Jessica's videos with her dad: Drip Drop should have been Gatorade Liquid Death Olipop Liquid IV
2024-08-2947 min
Making It Awkward"How Dare She Be Phenomenal!" Women's Sports and Gender Panic with Dr. Naima ReddickJessica welcomes Dr. Naima Reddick who played rugby for the women's national team. She was part of the community that started https://www.rugbyforall.com. The two talk Olympics, women's sports, gender equity and the gender panic that seemed more prominent at these Olympics than in previous years. Naima shares what should really matter in women's sports. Jessica realizes that she got swept up and distracted by the gender hysteria and what that means. She ends by discussing where Paris went wrong in its nutrition decisions. You can look at Naima's medals by becoming a podcast patron! ...
2024-08-2251 min
Making It AwkwardRe-Release: Jessica's Ultra Processed Food Diet Results with Amy FletcherRe-Release! In this episode Jessica shares the results of her month of eating 80% of her diet from ultra processed foods. She was surprised to find that her experience was far different from those of Dr. Chris van Tulleken. She talks to Amy, a chemical engineer working in food processing, about lessons learned and how the narrative about UPFs fit into society. NOVA classifications of food You can become a podcast patron! You can rate and review this show! You can email the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica...
2024-08-0835 min
Making It AwkwardLove on the Spectrum! with Jessica and Her SpouseHappy Pride! 🏳️🌈 Jessica's spouse, Elisha, joins the show for a relationship quiz. Afterward Elisha shares how she started thinking about her autism and shares a device that she's found helpful in monitoring her overwhelm. Mentioned in the episode: Whoop Jessica's dad trying Liquid IV Email the show: makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this episode on Spotify and at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod How to support this podcast? Follow, rate and review and subscribe to Patreon members...
2024-06-2728 min
Making It AwkwardSalsa is a Vegetable!; Reclaiming Our Cultural Foods with Dalina Soto, RDDietitian Dalina Soto of @your.latina.nutritionist joins Jessica to talk about getting spicy on TikTok when a dietitian decided to tell us that salsa isn't a vegetable. The two talk about how so much of her work is correcting misinformation about cultural foods, and helping people to reclaim them. They chat about curves and a time she was told she was "too sultry" for a company's campaign. They also get into acculturation, veganism and wrap the conversation with a brief discussion of PMDD and at what point in her menstrual cycle Dalina gets sassy on social media.
2024-06-1339 min
Making It AwkwardTight Sphincters; on Being "Divisive" in the Eating Disorder Field with Dr. Deb BurgardJessica is joined by Dr. Deb Burgard, a psychologist and one of the co-founders of the Health at Every Size approach. The two of them talk about Jessica's recent keynote presentation in which she discussed an ad for an eating disorder treatment center. She was not expecting the backlash she received. Deb and Jessica are often labeled as people who are divisive, or being mean to people in the eating disorder establishment. Listen in to hear about a time that someone fainted after they disrupted a conference, and why Jessica still has hope. Email the show: makingitawkwardpod...
2024-05-2353 min
Making It AwkwardFinal Thoughts & Who is Anti-Diet for?; With Jaye Rochon and Cara Harbstreet, MS RDJessica is joined by Cara Harbstreet, MS RD and Jaye Rochon to wrap up the series on the anti-diet dietitian article by the WaPo and Examination. Both Cara and Jaye were featured in the article and this episode they share their experiences with the anti-diet community and their thoughts on the article. Jessica wraps up the episode with her thoughts on the series and questions she continues to have. Referenced as 1st article: https://www.theexamination.org/articles/the-food-industry-pays-influencer-dietitians-to-shape-your-eating-habits Referenced as 2nd article: https://www.theexamination.org/articles/as-obesity-rises-big-food-and-dietitians-push-anti-diet-advice Email the...
2024-05-1655 min
Making It AwkwardUltra Processed Fridays and Southern Food; a dad and daughter chatJessica talks ultra processed foods with her dad. The two started ultra processed Fridays in which Jessica makes her dad taste test a new food and the two discuss the idea that all UPFs are unhealthy. Today Jessica presents a "natural" beef jerky to her dad for testing. She talks to him about UPFs, what he ate growing up and it turns out that her dad's feelings about Southern food are complicated. Full video of the ultra processed Friday with all of the gestures and sound effects is up on the Patreon! E...
2024-04-1142 min
Making It AwkwardGLP-1s, Diabetes and How Whiteness WorksJessica talks to UK doctor Dr. Asher Larmie about his perspectives on Ozempic and weight loss, diabetes, whether prediabetes is a thing and how we should (and shouldn't) measure blood sugar. The two discuss the differences in the US and UK guidance for diabetes and prediabetes. Then, at Asher's invitation, Jessica asks him about his white saviorism and privilege, especially how it presents itself online. That stretch of the conversation gets a full analysis in the outro and Jessica speaks about how hard it is to critique whiteness in a way that seems less likely to receive...
2024-04-0450 min
Making It AwkwardEating Disorders Don't Discriminate? With Dr. Chukwuemeka NwubaDr. Chuks joins Jessica to talk about his new book, Eating Disorders Don't Discriminate. He edited the book with Bailey Spinn a TikTok and YouTube personality. Chuks and Jessica talk about how he got into the field and what made him write the book. Jessica nudges Chuks to talk about how Bailey was chosen to co-edit the book, but the two of them aren't able to get into the underlying dynamics at play. Jessica also gets into the Oprah of it all. New ways to support the show! Patreon membership bonus content, outtakes, Dad Content and...
2024-03-2839 min
Making It AwkwardWriting the Next Book And Not Settling in Love with Chrissy KingChrissy King joins Jessica to talk about authorship and the patriarchal romanticization of relationships. Chrissy is the author of the Body Liberation Project; How Understanding Racism and Diet Culture Helps Cultivate Joy and Build Collective Freedom. The two get into what they wish they knew when writing their first books and Chrissy is able to convince Jessica to do it all over again. Chrissy talks about the beauty of being single and why we should never settle in our relationships. The best half of their lives is just getting started! Chrissy King is a writer, speaker, educator...
2024-03-2152 min
Making It AwkwardLive, Laugh, Languish; Jessica Wrote a Book and Then it Got Awkward with Alison PillJessica's book is fun, spicy, and a love letter to those around her. She felt really good about it but once it left her hands things started to get awkward. Alison reenacts one of the most awkward moments in publishing history and shares how she made another moment awkward. Jessica working on loving her book again and is glad folks are along for this ride! Photos of Jessica's unicorn cakes https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ38mQklrcF/?igsh=NzBmMjdhZWRiYQ== NAAFA YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@NAAFAOfficial/videos Email the show: makingitawkwardpod@gmail...
2024-03-1435 min
Making It AwkwardThe Pivot: Food Heaven to Diabetes Digital with Wendy Lopez and Jessica JonesThey're back! Wendy and Jess, the duo behind Food Heaven fame pivoted to Diabetes Digital, an online platform for diabetes education and support. In this episode the two share how they decided to pivot, and how they chose diabetes. Jessica asks them about the questionable diagnosis of prediabetes, some patient consult questions and of course about the Ozempic of it all. You can find them now at https://diabetesdigital.co/ The beginning of the Food Heaven pivot series. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/diabetes-digital-podcast-by-food-heaven/id1041814489?i=1000612450824 You can contact the show at m...
2024-02-2958 min
Making It AwkwardLitigation and Legacy; Part 2 With Dr. Whitney Trotter and Meghan Cichy, MPH, RDNJessica chats with Dr. Whitney Trotter and Meghan Cichy, MPH RDN about her and Whitney's interview with Steve Dunn in the first Litigation and Legacy episode. The three reflect on the interview and what it means for the field. They discuss iaedp's certification and whether or not it should be preserved in the midst of all of this. You can see Meghan's math on the certification and the text of Steve's lawsuit here. Consult with Jessica Follow Whitney Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watc...
2024-02-0147 min
Making It Awkward"Impossible"; Being Black in the Eating Disorder Field with Dr Whitney Trotter and Angela GoensJessica talks with Dr. Whitney Trotter, DNP APRN PMHNP-Bc RDN and Angela Goens, MS RDN LD about being Black clinicians in the eating disorder field. They talk about what it's like to work in treatment centers and how their clients' care differs from the standard treatments. They discuss the organization iaedp, and how Jessica's calls for divestment from iaedp influenced Whitney and Angela. They wrap up with discussion of the BIPOC Eating Disorder Conference New ways to support the show! Patreon membership with access to conus content and announcements You can contact the show at...
2024-01-1141 min
Making It AwkwardCreate a Policy to Reduce Anti-Fatness At The Doctor's Office and on Campus with Shantille Connolly, MPH CHESJessica talks with Shantille Connolly, a senior health promotion specialist at UC Davis about their process of instituting a policy to make being weighed an opt-in measure at the clinic, rather than a default, and Shantille's future projects including a team focused on size inclusive care. Jessica also discusses boofing as a Wellness trend that is in for 2024 and shares that "food is medicine" should be out this year. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch...
2024-01-0436 min
Making It Awkward"#bannedbodies--AI's Social Media Discrimination with Jen McLellan"Jessica talks with Jen McLellan, about her recent experience getting banned by Meta on both of her Instagram and Facebook accounts. Jen is a certified birth educated, author and founder of Plus Size Birth and host of the Plus Mommy podcast. They discuss the impact of AI discrimination on social media and who will be most impacted by this. Jen shares her call to action to address this. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this episode at h...
2023-12-0728 min
Making It AwkwardJen Jacobs, Editor ExtraordinaireJessica and Making It Awkward editor, Jen Jacobs, reflect on the podcast thus far and look to future episodes. They talk about which topics have gotten the most interest and how the editing process works between them. Jen also threw in a clip of Lexi that Jessica hadn't heard before. Find Jen! Jenrjacobs.com Whitney trotter https://whitneytrotter.com/work-with-me/ You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.co...
2023-11-3020 min
Making It AwkwardI Asked My Dad About DehumanizationJessica talks with her dad about his thoughts about and experience with dehumanization, especially in the 1950s and 60s. She asked him for this conversation because for the last 6 weeks of war between Israel and Palestine news outlets have been talking about people–both dead and alive–like a simple math equation. People with full, beautiful lives are reduced to a digit, sometimes a decimal or even a percentage. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this episode on Spot...
2023-11-1717 min
Making It AwkwardIs Non-binary Identity a 3rd Gender Category?; USPATH Conference ReflectionsMaking It Awkward went to USPATH and things got awkward a few times. Jessica sits down with Isaac, Gus Klein, and Elijah Castle to reflect on their experiences at the USPATH 2023 conference. They critique the shortfalls of the oft used framing of gender affirming surgery as life saving care, discuss the emergence of non-binary identity as a third gender category and talk about what's next for them in trans healthcare. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this e...
2023-11-1032 min
Making It AwkwardThe Research on BMI and Gender Affirming Care with Elijah CastleResearcher Elijah Castle joins Jessica to talk about the research landscape for BMI and gender affirming surgeries and what it (doesn't) show us. They discuss weight stigma, the savior complex of some surgeons, and what they are hoping to hear at the USPATH conference. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson You can watch this episode on Spotify and at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod How to support this podcast? ...
2023-11-0133 min
Making It AwkwardWhat Makes Something News? With Lindsay Lee WallaceJessica explores how something gets to be news with freelance journalist Lindsay Lee Wallace. Jessica also learns why Lindsay's article about Jessica and her book was not accepted for publication. Find more of Lindsay's work here, and find her tweeting too much here. Her piece about fatphobia and top surgery is expected on SELF in November. You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com Follow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod and on Spotify. Buy Jessica's book
2023-10-2043 min
Making It AwkwardAlison Pill is Making it Awkward in Film and TVThis week Jessica chats with Alison Pill about her work making it awkward and building a collective. The two also reminisce on how they became unlikely friends.This week's dietitian segment is about what happened when Jessica's UPF experiment was over. Learn more about Room Tone Mug artist mentioned by Alison from @maybell.eequay You can contact the show at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.comFollow Jessica on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod and on Spotify.
2023-10-1236 min
Making It AwkwardBut What IS an Ultra-Processed Food? with Amy FletcherCan we clearly distinguish what makes something an ultra-processed food? Amy Fletcher tries to help Jessica figure out what makes a food ultra-processed and what that distinction means. Jessica also details the rules for her 30 days of eating 80% of her diet from ultra-processed food. You can watch Making it Awkward on Youtube. You can find Jessica on instagram @jessicawilson.msrd You can email the podcast at makingitawkwardpod@gmail.com
2023-08-3139 min
Making It Awkward"Be the unexpected"Jessica's dad has a request for listeners. In this episode Jessica talks to her dad about why she started this podcast and gets his feedback. They talk about what it's like to be the only Black person in the room and talk about how they've both made it awkward. Watch the video on Spotify and on YouTube Follow Jessica on Instagram
2023-08-1720 min
Making It AwkwardIntroducing Making It Awkward!Dietitian and author Jessica Wilson is finding ways to create institutional change by making it awkward and finds joy and laughter along the way. From the dietetics field, to trans care to publishing she'll take listeners backstage at conferences and meetings for an in depth and close up look at what it looks like to create new paths. Join Jessica Wilson weekly as she shares her stories and talks with guests about times they have made situations awkward in order to change institutions starting August 16th. Follow the show on the website and...
2023-07-2207 min
Adam Wilson Talks to EveryoneJessica Wilson on childbirth rights ... and wrongsSend us a textContrary to what you may have heard, women are not poorly designed for childbirth. Jessica Wilson talks about why we fear mothers will die in childbirth in the United States, starting with her own terrible experience having her first child. We talk about the cascade of interventions, America's dismal statistics of maternal mortality, and what we know about childbirth in the old days -- before doctors were around to get involved. We talk hospital birth vs home birth, and not unrelated, about fear for moms versus confidence in them. This is...
2021-11-3057 min
My Black Body PodcastBurn It Down: Gymnastics and Eating DisordersThis week Jessica sits down for an intimate 1:1 chat with Lexi Brown, a veterinarian student in the UK, former collegiate gymnast, and Jessica's mentee. Lexi takes us through Simone Biles's Olympics gymnastics performance and the impacts that Biles's courageous acts continue to have on her, Jessica, and society at large. Lexi also shares how the trifecta of gymnastics, eating disorders and ADHD influence her desire to be a normal human. Together they discuss the importance of getting support, and... #showergate. Follow Lexi @lexi_sbrown for travel stories, animal testicles and more! Editor: Daché Monet T...
2021-08-2745 min
My Black Body PodcastMy Black Body: Jessica's StoryJessica shares the story of her body and what it would tell the world. Editor: Daché Monet Theme Music: "Rebirth Makes You Dance" by The Rebirth Brass Band Interlude: Original Composition by Daché Monet
2020-09-1821 min
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2020-07-2900 min