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The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HRThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR228 - Nobody gets People Ops as a Product 100% right (and that’s ok): Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People)Jessica Zwaan, COO at Talentful and author of Built for People,  joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about “human ops” versus “people ops”, the sprint planning process for her people team, and how nobody gets people ops as a product 100% right (and that’s ok).---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL B...2025-05-0657 minThe 7people Podcast: Your Guide to Creating Irresistible OrganizationsThe 7people Podcast: Your Guide to Creating Irresistible OrganizationsProduct-Led People Experience ⚡️: The future of HR? (with Luke O'Mahoney)Product-Led People Experience (PX). It’s a fresh, practical approach to HR, based on treating the employee experience like a product, and applying Product/UX thinking to solve organizational challenges and design, test and improve their People Experience.The results: smashed HR silos, faster, more impactful business wins, and a shift in HR’s traditional role from admin support to strategic business growth driver.It’s a hot topic for many progressive People leaders, including today’s guest star Luke O’Mahoney. Luke is founder of SapienX, creator of the PX Esp...2025-05-0142 minThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HRThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR224 - Jessica Zwaan: Story behind her obsession w/ People Ops as a ProductJessica Zwaan returned to The Modern People Leader for a deep dive on how her PeopleOps as a Product philosophy came to life. We talked about the early days of the framework, writing her book, and the launch of MPL Build — a new collaboration between MPL and Jessica to bring the methodology to more teams.---- 🔗Join the MPL Live Session on all-things leave management.🔗Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗Be the first to hear when MPL Build launches.---- (08...2025-04-1151 min#HRYoungThinking#HRYoungThinkingPX Journal - Episodio 2: People Experience as a ProductEn este episodio exploramos el concepto de People Experience as a Product y cómo adoptar un mindset de producto en la gestión de la experiencia del colaborador. Hablamos sobre la importancia de diseñar experiencias intencionales, iterativas y alineadas con la estrategia del negocio, tomando inspiración de metodologías como Design Thinking y modelos como el Triple Diamante. También mencionamos el trabajo de Luke O'Mahoney, quien ha abordado este enfoque en su podcast PX Espresso Hour, y el libro Built for People de Jessica Zwaan, que desarrolla un marco sólido sobre este modelo...2025-03-2132 minWork For HumansWork For HumansDesigning Work Like a Subscription Product: How to Retain Top Talent | Luke O’MahoneyLuke O’Mahoney is one of the leaders of the movement to reframe work as a product that every company sells to employees. In particular, Luke has gone deep into the implications of recognizing work as a subscription product, and brings an absolute wealth of ideas to bear on how to create the kind of work experience product that employees want to buy every day. People don't stay in jobs because of free snacks, ping pong tables, or flashy recruiting campaigns. They stay because work works for them.Luke is now a chief people officer - in re...2025-03-181h 14\'ne Dosis Wissen | Der Medizin-Podcast für Menschen im Gesundheitswesen'ne Dosis Wissen | Der Medizin-Podcast für Menschen im GesundheitswesenGLP-1-Rezeptor-Agonisten: Viele brechen die Behandlung ab Sie können gleich bei zwei gesundheitlichen Problemen helfen: GLP-1-Rezeptor-Agonisten werden heutzutage als Abnehm- und Diabetesspritzen eingesetzt. Trotz ihrer Wirksamkeit haben sie auch Nachteile, die zu einem Abbruch der Therapie führen können. Tatsächlich sind die Abbruchraten hoch. Das zeigt eine neue Studie. Dr. Dennis Ballwieser, Arzt und Chefredakteur der Apotheken Umschau, stellt die Studie vor und erklärt, welche Gründe einen Abbruch begünstigen und was Betroffene zur Wiederaufnahme der Therapie veranlasst. Für die Folge haben wir Informationen eingeholt bei: Prof. Dr. med. Martina de Zwaan Stand: 12. März 2025 Que...2025-03-1210 min\'ne Dosis Wissen | Der Medizin-Podcast für Menschen im Gesundheitswesen'ne Dosis Wissen | Der Medizin-Podcast für Menschen im GesundheitswesenKardiovaskuläre Folgen der Magersucht Anorexia nervosa kann zahlreiche kardiovaskuläre Folgen haben. So steigen unter anderem die Risiken für Herz-Rhythmus-Störungen, Herzinsuffizienz und Bradykardie, wie eine neue Studie bestätigt. Dr. Dennis Ballwieser, Arzt und Chefredakteur der Apotheken Umschau, erklärt, woran das liegt und was sich daraus für die Betreuung von Patient:innen mit Anorexie ergibt. Für die Folge haben wir Informationen eingeholt bei: Prof. Dr. med. Martina de Zwaan Stand: 10. Februar 2025 Quellen und nützliche Links Die neue Studie über die Inzidenz kardiovaskulärer Vorfälle bei Anorexia nervosa (engl.; DOI: 10.1001/jamanetwork...2025-02-1010 minPeople & Culture Essentials Videocast by PCAPeople & Culture Essentials Videocast by PCAEmployee Experience, People Ops with David Liddle & Jessica ZwaanJessica Zwaan is the Chief Operating Officer at Talentful and the Author of Built for People. David Liddle is the CEO of The TCM Group and Author of Transformational Culture and Managing Conflict. Become a Member at The PCA. It's Free! Write to info@peopleprofessionals.org 2024-11-211h 00Keihard Klassiek: De MixKeihard Klassiek: De MixDe verdwenen menselijkheidRaban - Solitude Michael Nyman - The diary of Anne Frank ; "If" (Arr.)Jess Gillam [saxofoon] & BBC Concert Orchestra o.l.v. Jessica Cottis Sergej Rachmaninov - Vespers, op.37 - deel V, "Kantiek van Symeon - zang van Kiev" (Nunc Dimittis)Tenebrae o.l.v. Nigel Short Dustin O'Halloran - UMRIKA ; "Goodbye"Dustin O'Halloran [piano] & Budapest Art Orchestra Seckou Keita - Missing You Forever (Arr.)Seckou Keita [kora] & BBC Concert Orchestra o.l.v. Mark Heron Astor Piazzolla - Solitude2024-10-2558 minWork For HumansWork For HumansBuilt for People: Using Product Management Principles to Design Work People Love | Jessica Zwaan, RevisitedThe philosophy behind HR and our way of working predates most of the tools we use. While companies focus on sales and productivity, most neglect to measure one of the largest sources of value within the organization – the employee experience. Jessica Zwaan has made it her mission to teach executives and their companies how to transform the employee experience using product management principles, maximizing value for all stakeholders involved.Jessica Zwaan is the author of Built for People, the current Chief Operating Officer of Whereby, and a former COO advisor for clients like Soundcloud, Talentful, and Bolt, am...2024-10-251h 06Marc KramerMarc KramerJessica Zwaan author of "Built for People"Jessica Zwaan author of "Built for People" by Marc Kramer2024-10-121h 02The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HRThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR201 - Live: Rethinking Performance & Compensation (David Hanrahan, Chief People Officer at Flare & Jessica Zwaan, Author of Built for People)David Hanrahan, Chief People Officer at Flare, and Jessica Zwaan, Author of Built for People & COO at Talentful, joined us live in Austin, Texas.  We talked about how performance management is stuck in the past, the idea of team-based assessments, how to run a data-driven performance calibration, and the evolving role of compensation in driving performance. ----  This episode was brought to you by Kunik. Sign up for their exclusive roundtable on October 30th. ----  3:11: Reflections on outdated performance management practices 5:07: Thoughts on why companies are holding ont...2024-10-0556 minIRIS InterviewsIRIS InterviewsHow to unite an equitable workforceWorking environments have always been places of mixed culture, age and opinion. But as older generations return to work and Gen Z enters the workforce, how does an organisation ensure unity? A tendency exists to treat workers based on generational stereotypes rather than facts, taking a blanket approach, but workplace demographic shifts more polarised than ever before, In this podcast, Jessica Zwaan, Chief Operating Officer for Talentful, and Lizzy Barry, HR Director for IRIS Software Group, explore how leaders can make decisions based on resounding truths rather than sweeping generalisations, using workforce data to ensure...2024-08-3041 minHiring On All CylindersHiring On All CylindersHow to become a commercial TA leader with Jessica ZwaanIn this episode of 'Hiring at All Cylinders,' Chris Abbass sits down with Jessie Zwaan, COO of Talentful and best-selling author, to delve into the importance of commerciality in Talent Acquisition leadership. They discuss Jessie's career journey, the significance of financial literacy in TA roles, and how to think and act more commercially. Jessie shares insights on the challenges faced by TA leaders, the impact of strategic goal alignment, and the future of TA in an ever-evolving industry. Tune in for practical tips on becoming a more commercially savvy TA leader. This episode...2024-08-2944 minPeople mastermindsPeople masterminds#54 - Laying the HR foundation for growth, with Lindsay Ross from BitpandaGrowth got you feeling like a hot mess? Scaling up can be a doozy, but don't worry, we've got your back. The People masterminds podcast is here to relieve your scaling stress and bring you People & Culture inspiration that you can actually use. Get moved and shaken by Kristel and Eveliese who, based on their daily experiences with start-ups and scale-ups, know exactly the growing pains you have to go through to reach your goals. Forget cookie-cutter advice, we bring you the goods - real insights, killer tips, practical cases, and amazingly interesting guests who...2024-08-2646 minHR UnpluggedHR UnpluggedBetter Succession Planning—How to Make Internal Changes SmootherDoes your organization have a plan for succession? When high performers are looking for their next challenge, they have a choice. They find it elsewhere in another company and role or they move to the next stage of their career journey in your organization. But without a solid plan for succession from your leaders, it’s often the former option that people take.In this episode, recorded live at a recent event, Anita and Vanessa sit down with Jessica Zwaan, the Chief Operating Officer at Talentful and author of the brilliant book, ‘Built for People: Transform Your Empl...2024-07-0929 minThis New WayThis New WayJessica Zwaan, COO at Talentful on Bringing Product Management Practices and a Commercial Focus into People OperationsIn this insightful episode, we sit down with Jessica Zwaan, COO of Talentful, whose impressive career journey spans roles in HR and operations across leading tech and SaaS companies. Jessica shares her transition from HR to the COO role, discussing the significant learnings and challenges faced along the way. She delves into the importance of commercial acumen within HR, the necessity of being outcome-driven, and how curiosity can shape effective leadership. In episode 9 of season 2, Jessica provides an in-depth look at how she structures meetings to ensure transparency and accountability, including her unique approach...2024-06-2042 minYaniro - The Human FactorYaniro - The Human Factor#128 - ALAN : Comment Alan utilise l’IA en PeopleIntéressé.e par notre formation Yaniro Leadership Program ? Prenez rendez-vous avec Yasmine ici !Voulez-vous former les managers avec la méthode do it yourself ? Obtenez toutes les ressources ici !Résumé de l'épisode 👇Juliette Raimbault, People Lead chez Alan, nous explique comment Alan utilise l'IA en RH, voici les points principaux : Optimisation du recrutement :Utilisation de chatbots IA pour présélectionner les candidats en posant des questions spécifiques et en administrant des tests cognitifs, ce qui a réduit de moitié le temps de recrutement IA...2024-06-1259 minYaniro - The Human FactorYaniro - The Human Factor#126 - JESSICA DJEZIRI : Débat - virer sans traumatiser les équipesIntéressé.e par notre formation Yaniro Leadership Program ? Prenez rendez-vous avec Yasmine ici !Voulez-vous former les managers avec la méthode do it yourself ? Obtenez toutes les ressources ici !Résumé de l'épisode 👇Jessica Djeziri, associée chez Bloomays, nous guide à travers l'approche délicate du licenciement sans affecter négativement le reste de l'équipe, voici les points clés : Objectif : Former les dirigeants à gérer les licenciements de manière sensible pour minimiser le traumatisme de l'équipe.Conseils clés : Communiquer de manière transparente, préserver la dignité de to...2024-05-291h 02The Operations Room: A Podcast for COO’sThe Operations Room: A Podcast for COO’s44. Does performance management work?In this episode, we discuss performance management and getting the most from your teams. We are joined by Jessica Zwaan, Author of the best-selling book, Built for People, and COO of Talentful.We chat about: Can traditional performance reviews truly capture an employee's value?Are OKRs just a trendy buzzword or a real strategy for driving company success?How can organizational network analysis uncover the real influencers in your team?What does it take to measure true employee performance in today's remote work era?References: Jessica’s LinkedInWebsite2024-05-2347 minHR Director\'s CutHR Director's CutThe One Where Employee Experience is a Product (ft. Jessica Zwaan)Victoria, Kate and Lisa burst are joined by Jessica Zwaan, a hands-on COO and who finds joy in diverse, kind and world-changing companies of excellent people."You will never be able to sustain Employee Engagement if the People Team are the only ones shouldering the burden."We waste no time delving into a letter from an HR leader hungry for guidance on transforming employee experiences. It's a tale of ambition tinged with just a hint of overwhelm.Jessica unpacks the concept of HR as a product. She maps out the intricate web connecting consumer-facing...2024-04-1953 minDigitaal-WervenDigitaal-WervenJessica Zwaan; a seat at the tableJessica Zwaan sprak op Digitaal-Werven 2024 (in het Engels) over a seat at the table. As voormalig People & Culture manager die nu COO is kan ze hier ongekende inzichten in geven. 2024-03-1121 minHR Coffee TimeHR Coffee Time119 | How using Agile can drive positive change & prove HR’s value, with Kate Maddison-GreenwellIf you've ever wondered how to shift your organisation's perception of HR from being an operational, admin-heavy function, to one that is strategic, innovative and drives positive change; this episode of HR Coffee Time is here to help. Host, Fay Wallis is joined by Kate Maddison-Greenwell from People Efficient and together they take a deep dive into the exciting world of Agile HR.Key TakeawaysAgile is a mindset and set of methodologies focused on adding value to customers, including employees in the case of HR.Agile HR involves breaking down complex projects...2024-02-1636 minWork For HumansWork For HumansBuilt for People: Using Product Management Principles to Design Work People Love | Jessica ZwaanThe philosophy behind HR and our way of working predates most of the tools we use. While companies focus on sales and productivity, most neglect to measure one of the largest sources of value within the organization – the employee experience. Jessica Zwaan has made it her mission to teach executives and their companies how to transform the employee experience using product management principles, maximizing value for all stakeholders involved.Jessica Zwaan is the author of Built for People, the current Chief Operating Officer of Whereby, and a former COO advisor for clients like Soundcloud, Talentful, and Bolt, am...2023-11-071h 05Talk Talent To MeTalk Talent To MeWhereby COO Jessica Zwaan  People-centered approaches to business emphasize the importance of prioritizing and supporting the well-being, growth, and satisfaction of employees. By adopting a people-centered approach, businesses can create a positive work environment that not only benefits their employees but also contributes to improved performance, productivity, and long-term success. In today’s episode, I sit down with Jessica Zwaan, Chief Operating Officer and  at Whereby, to discuss her innovative, people-centered approach to HR and business development. Jessica is the author of Built for People, a best-selling book that offers advice and tools for transforming HR activities by incorporating elements from prod...2023-10-2736 minCurious Leadership with Dominic MonkhouseCurious Leadership with Dominic MonkhouseE269 | Rethinking People Ops & Transforming Employee Experience with Jessica ZwaanFully remote work isn’t for everyone. For instance, some people get their energy from having a community at work, whilst others get it from elsewhere. Some can deal with the ambiguity that comes with working remotely, and others struggle with it. Our guest this week believes that working remotely is not just a decision over having an office or not, but an operating system. And that means that you need to curate every aspect of your people operations. This week on The Melting Pot, we learned from Jessica Zwaan, author of Amazon Best Selling, Built for Peo...2023-10-1747 minThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HRThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR134 - How CHROs can align themselves closer to revenue: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People) & Ryan Bonnici (CMO, Gympass)Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People) and Ryan Bonnici (CMO, Gympass), joined us on The Modern People Leader.   We talked about why HR should be considered a revenue generating function, how to align yourself closer to revenue as an HR leader, and why you don’t need to get the metrics perfect for every single people program.  ---- (2:17) Good news stories (7:14) How Ryan and Jessica became Aussie besties (10:15) Ryan’s career journey: flight attendant —> Salesforce —> HubSpot —> CMO at G2 —> CMO at Gympass (15:40) Built for People is out (22:05) H...2023-10-061h 01PX Espresso Hour☕with Luke O\'MahoneyPX Espresso Hour☕with Luke O'Mahoney013 - Jessica Zwaan - Built For People, Work like a Product Team in People OpsSend us a textGuest Bio:Jessica is the author of Amazon Best Selling, Built for People and founder of Being People consultancy.  A hands-on COO who finds joy in diverse, kind, and world-changing companies of excellent people, like Whereby, where the mission is to build a world where anywhere works. Previously: VP People, Culture, an Talent for UK Tech Track #1 Wonderbly, Yieldify, BoxContact Jessica:Email:  jessica@whereby.comJessica Zwaan | LinkedInBeing People | COO & People Ops | Startup Coaching (jessicamayzwaan.com)2023-10-031h 15HR Collection PlaylistHR Collection PlaylistThe Strategic Value of Talent AcquisitionThe talent acquisition landscape is changing rapidly. 2024 has been difficult for many people in the profession, with many layoffs and an incredibly tough job market for recruiters. At the same time, advances in AI and automation technologies are driving types of change that we couldn't have imagined a few years ago, and post-pandemic labour shortages are still a reality in many talent markets.All this disruption is forcing employers to think differently about jobs, work, skills and recruiting, creating an incredible opportunity for talent acquisition to illustrate its long-term value to the business. So...2023-09-2029 minHR Interviews PlaylistHR Interviews PlaylistThe Strategic Value of Talent AcquisitionThe talent acquisition landscape is changing rapidly. 2024 has been difficult for many people in the profession, with many layoffs and an incredibly tough job market for recruiters. At the same time, advances in AI and automation technologies are driving types of change that we couldn't have imagined a few years ago, and post-pandemic labour shortages are still a reality in many talent markets.All this disruption is forcing employers to think differently about jobs, work, skills and recruiting, creating an incredible opportunity for talent acquisition to illustrate its long-term value to the business. So...2023-09-2030 minRecruiting Future with Matt Alder - What\'s Next For Talent Acquisition, HR & Hiring?Recruiting Future with Matt Alder - What's Next For Talent Acquisition, HR & Hiring?The Strategic Value of Talent AcquisitionThe talent acquisition landscape is changing rapidly. 2024 has been difficult for many people in the profession, with many layoffs and an incredibly tough job market for recruiters. At the same time, advances in AI and automation technologies are driving types of change that we couldn't have imagined a few years ago, and post-pandemic labour shortages are still a reality in many talent markets.All this disruption is forcing employers to think differently about jobs, work, skills and recruiting, creating an incredible opportunity for talent acquisition to illustrate its long-term value to the business. So...2023-09-2030 minI Hate It HereI Hate It HereS2 E2: Jessica Zwaan on AI and Tech's Equity EvolutionIn this week’s pod, Hebba sits down with Jessica Zwaan, COO of Whereby and the author of "Built for People,” to chat about AI’s potential impact on the structure of compensation and equity in the workspace and the evolving landscape of HR.Jessica unleashes a few of her hottest HR takes, predicting a shift towards employees demanding more equity stakes in something she affectionately calls "tech space communism." Then, she and Hebba speculate on the future of compensation structures before bonding over the importance of long-term incentives in companies.Plus, Jessica reveals why HR pro...2023-09-1346 minHR Works: The Podcast for Human ResourcesHR Works: The Podcast for Human ResourcesHR Works Podcast 248: Can HR Be Both Product-Minded and People-Centric?Guest: Jessica Zwaan, speaker, author, HR thought-leader, and Chief Operating Officer at Whereby Is it time to start looking at the employee experience as a subscription product? What advantages can organizations and their workplace cultures gain by taking a product-management approach to leading people? In this latest episode of the HR Works Podcast, we examine this innovative, product-influenced approach to people operations with Jessica Zwaan, an author, speaker, HR thought-leader and COO of Whereby. With extensive experience leading global people and talent teams across the startup and technology space, Jessica is introducing philosophies that are common across product management teams...2023-07-2541 minLeaders UnscriptedLeaders Unscripted14: From VP of People to COO with Whereby’s Jessica ZwaanWhen it comes to broad roles, they don’t come more varied than that of a COO.Some of the most invaluable skills to help COOs navigate any challenge come from working with people, a transition that Jessica Zwaan has made look effortless.Currently COO at Whereby, she uncovers the deepest aspects of such a fluid leadership role, your culture as a subscription product, and leading a team through huge business pivots.This episode covers:The remarkable fluidity of the COO roleMaking challenging pivots within the businessHow surprisingly often leaders face ‘trolley prob...2023-06-2745 minOpsyOpsyOrganizational Design with Jessica ZwaanLearn how to structure your startup correctly from the get-go by digging into organizational design with Jessica Zwaan, a self-described "commercial COO." She has lots to teach us about everything from running operations like a product team, to mastering finance when you don't have a numbers background, and even practicing non-paternalism at work. Tune in to learn best practices you can implement in your own work!Show NotesShow notes and a full transcript of this episode is available at opsy.work.Connect with usAre you an opsy person in...2023-06-0855 minOpsyOpsyOrganizational Design with Jessica ZwaanLearn how to structure your startup correctly from the get-go by digging into organizational design with Jessica Zwaan, a self-described "commercial COO." She has lots to teach us about everything from running operations like a product team, to mastering finance when you don't have a numbers background, and even practicing non-paternalism at work. Tune in to learn best practices you can implement in your own work!Show NotesShow notes and a full transcript of this episode is available at opsy.work.Connect with usAre you an opsy person in...2023-06-0855 minTalent hacks for scaleupsTalent hacks for scaleupsEp: 16 - Jessica Zwaan, Built for peopleOn April’s episode of Talent hacks for scaleups, our host, Sophie Power was joined by Jessica Zwaan from Whereby. In this episode, the two spoke about Jessica’s upcoming book ‘Built For People’, in which she explains a new method for improving workforce and business performance by developing people-centred ways of working, evidence-based decision making and a culture of continuous feedback and iteration. As always, likes and comments are encouraged and feedback is always appreciated! Who would you like to see on our upcoming episodes? Check out our other episodes here: https://bit.ly/zincpodcast2023-04-0646 minTalent and Growth - The Talent Acquisition PodcastTalent and Growth - The Talent Acquisition PodcastLinking Compensation Plans & Performance: The Blueprint with Jessica Zwaan, Chief Operating Officer, WherebyJessica Zwaan is a phenomenal human being who has an incredible knack for putting together blueprints for how things should work. Things like comp plans.   Oh, and now comp plans and performance! This is such a tricky area to navigate but Jessica really puts it together in a way we can all understand and even implement into our businesses. Enjoy! I am always interested in hearing feedback on episodes and getting ideas for futures ones, so if you would like to talk to me about this or anything else, p...2023-03-2142 minNew World Of WorkNew World Of WorkThe path from PeopleOps leader to COO with Jessica ZwaanTransitioning from one role to the next isn’t always easy, and changing industries altogether can be an even bigger challenge. However, if you’re able to transfer key skills from one role to the next, that transition can be a whole lot smoother. That was the case for this episode’s guest, Jessica Zwaan, who has made the leap from law to PeopleOps and all the way to her current role as Chief Operating Officer (COO) at Whereby, a company that’s making it easier than ever for remote and distributed teams to connect over video. During the episode...2023-02-0235 minCultureLab with Aga BajerCultureLab with Aga BajerJessica Zwaan - Transforming People OperationsJessica Zwaan has amassed quite a following among HR professionals frustrated with the old way of doing things and keen to develop an agile, evidence-based approach to serve their people and business and to drive performance. Jessica is currently the COO at Whereby, and outside of her company, she is most well known for her approach to people ops as a product. Jessica’s latest book is called Built for People - Develop an Agile, Evidence-based Approach to HR to Drive Performance, and together we explore people ops. Tune in! To join CultureBrained® go to tinyur...2022-11-3057 minInspiring LegalInspiring LegalEpisode 4: Interview with Jessica Zwaan, COO of WherebyThank you for listening to Inspiring Legal.Full episode transcription:Welcome to Inspiring Legal, the podcast for in-house legal.Get insights, learn from peers, life lessons from some of the most influential GCs.If it's related to in-house legal, we cover it.For more inspiration, go to Openli.com slash community.Welcome to this episode of Inspiring Legal.I am sitting with a person that has a super inspiring background, career, and also a journey that I am stoked about telling you.I am sitting with Jessica.She...2022-11-0834 minThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HRThe Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR80 - Jessica Zwaan (COO, Whereby) on people ops as a product & recent layoffs in the newsJessica Zwaan, COO at Whereby, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the recent layoffs in the news, how we can raise the CPO role to be looked at as more commercial, and why you should treat people ops as a product. Timestamps: why we should be jealous she gets to work at Whereby (6:01), layoffs this week (8:35), the domino effect leading up to layoffs (17:15), outside of the CPO role, women only make up 20% of the other C-Suite roles (20:15), raising the people role to be more commercial (23:49), there are 3 products a company is...2022-11-071h 01The Start-Up Diaries PodcastThe Start-Up Diaries PodcastReverting Back To A Start-Up Mindset As A Scale-Up | CTO & COO @ Whereby | Andy Tyra & Jessica ZwaanWhereby is a video conferencing tool that incorporates screen sharing, recording, chat, live reactions and integrations with Google Drive, Trello, Miro and YouTube. In this episode, Chris is joined by CTO, Andy Tyra and COO, Jessica Zwaan to discuss Whereby and it's decade long history.Undoubtedly a successful scale-up, Whereby is currently undergoing a shift back to a 'Start-Up' mindset. Andy & Jess explain not only why, but how they have undergone such a pivot across the business both structurally and from a customer perspective, as well as their experience with change management as business leaders.2022-06-2143 min