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When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E12: I Needed to Do Something With My Hands—Now I Make Custom Leather Harnesses with Mia WalschIn this special crossover episode of When We're Not Hustling and Hobby Whores, Jessie Sage speaks with Mia Walsch, an Australian leatherworker and former sex worker, about her journey into leather crafting during the extended lockdowns in Melbourne. The conversation explores Mia's transition from sex work to a creative outlet that became a side hustle, as she intricately crafts leather harnesses and other items, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of working with her hands. They discuss the challenges of selling on platforms like Etsy and the ethical considerations Mia faces as a vegetarian working with leather. The episode also touches...2025-03-2453 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E11: What Does It Mean to Be Human? More Importantly, What Does It Mean to Have Humanity? with ZalikaIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Zalika U. Ibaorimi, PhD, about the complex intersections of race, gender, and sex work. They discuss how Blackness disrupts conventional categories of identity and the limitations of the term "sex worker" in encompassing the diverse experiences within the sex industry. The conversation delves into the historical and systemic dehumanization of marginalized bodies, particularly focusing on the concept of "no humans involved" as a police code and its broader implications in Black studies. Zalika, an anti-disciplinary artist and professor, shares insights from her projects exploring Black femme identities...2025-03-171h 08When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E10: What Do Mobile Peepshows, Burlesque and Non Profits Have in Common? RubyIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Ruby about her extensive work with the Peers Victoria Resources Society, a nonprofit supporting sex workers in Victoria, BC. Ruby shares insights into the organization's history and services, such as night outreach and harm reduction programs. She discusses the challenges sex workers face, including legal issues under the Nordic model and societal stigma, and highlights efforts to reform Canadian sex work laws. Ruby also touches on her personal journey from being sex work-adjacent to advocating for sex worker rights and her creative endeavors, including a traveling peep...2025-03-101h 03When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E9: I'm an Immigrant Six Times Over, and My Heart Helps Me Find a Sense of Home with SavannahIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Savannah, a UK-based full-service sex worker turned webcam model and contemporary artist. Savannah discusses her self-care guide for sex workers, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging sex workers as full people with complex lives beyond their jobs. She shares how art has helped her find a sense of home and belonging as an immigrant and how it aids in processing her experiences of survival and stigma. Savannah's work includes the Self Care for Sex Workers Journal, aimed at promoting well-being and balance for sex workers, and her latest book...2025-03-031h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E8: I Am a Pro Domme and a Pro Wrestler—I Like to Play the Heel with KatarinaIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage and guest Katarina "The Domme Kat" Pierce delve into her journey from TV production and journalism to becoming a co-founder of the Sex Work Survival Guide, a nonprofit providing crucial resources and education to sex workers. The conversation covers the challenges and stigmas within the sex industry, the importance of safety and community, and the unique blend of creativity and empowerment found in wrestling and BDSM. Katarina highlights her passion for wrestling as both an art form and a means of personal expression, illustrating how it allows for...2025-02-241h 03When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E7: I Make Art From Bones and I Like Homesteading, Too with Miss Faith RaeIn this episode of the When We're Not Hustling podcast, host Jessie Sage welcomes Ms. Faith Rae, a Canadian sex worker and multidisciplinary artist. The conversation explores Faith's life outside her work persona, delving into her passions for sustainability and art. Faith shares her unique craft of creating art with ethically sourced animal bones, a practice that connects her with nature and offers a sense of healing and honoring life cycles. Her dedication to sustainability extends to her lifestyle choices, including plans to build a homestead with permaculture principles. Throughout the discussion, Faith reflects on how these practices have...2025-02-1754 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E6: Stripping and Cam Modelling Isn't as Fun as Making Instant Noodles with Steph SiaIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Steph Sia, a multidisciplinary artist and content creator from Vancouver, to discuss her diverse experiences in the adult industry. As a stripper, podcaster, and online content creator, Sia shares insights into balancing work and personal life while navigating the challenges and misconceptions surrounding sex work. The conversation also explores her unique YouTube channel, Sia Slurps, where she reviews instant noodles, highlighting her passion for creative expression beyond the industry. Throughout the episode, Sia emphasizes the importance of destigmatizing sex work and creating content that connects...2025-02-101h 07When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E5: The Most Taboo Subject in the World Isn't Sex, It's PerimenopauseIn S3 E5 of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with Jet Setting Jasmine, an award-winning adult film director, psychotherapist, and master fetish trainer, to discuss perimenopause, evolving identities, and the challenges of navigating life, family, and sex work with autonomy and care. They explore the impact of bodily changes, the importance of boundary-setting, and Jasmine’s unique approach to parenting and education through travel. This episode offers a candid look at embracing new phases of life with confidence, community, and self-acceptance.  In this Episode: 00:02:51 Introduction of guest Jet Setting Jasmine  00:03:47 Discussion on p...2025-02-031h 03The Granny Panty PodcastThe Granny Panty PodcastFrom Shock & Silence to Support: Breaking S3xwork Stigma | RubyLynne with Jessie Sage & Mamma Sage→→→ OPEN FOR MORE INFO ←←← In the most raw and heartfelt episode of The Granny Panty Podcast yet, join your host RubyLynne as she delves into a deeply personal and emotional conversation with Jessie Sage and her mother. This candid interview takes us through the tumultuous journey that began when Jessie's mother discovered Jessie was involved in online sex work, leading to years of silence and strife. The rift seemed insurmountable, but with time, love, and courageous communication, the narrative shifted. Jessie's mom penned a heartfelt letter, reaching out across the chasm of misunderstanding, sparking a path toward reconciliation and acceptance...2025-02-0243 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E4: I'm No Longer the Object of Men's Desires—I'm the Subject of My Own Story with Suzannah WeissIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Suzanna Weiss, a sexologist and author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject. Weiss shares her journey toward sexual empowerment, beginning with overcoming an eating disorder tied to societal objectification and evolving through experiences like sex parties and sex writing. Her book challenges traditional narratives around women’s sexuality, urging women to reclaim agency and become active participants in their own desires, rather than passive objects of male fantasy. This episode offers a nuanced discussion on the complexities of sexual subjectivity and self-expression, encouraging listeners to em...2025-01-2757 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E3: Urban Warriors Sometimes Carry Seeds and Scythes with Xanthe RheaIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with long-time friend Xanthe Rhea to discuss her journey from stripping to full-service sex work. Xanthe shares insights into the financial pressures dancers face, including the challenges of "pay-to-work" club systems, and how these experiences shaped her transition within the industry. Beyond sex work, the conversation explores Xanthe's passion for urban farming, her background in herbalism, and her commitment to holistic health practices. They discuss the philosophical differences between herbalism and Western medicine, as well as the social and environmental benefits of local, organic farming. The episode...2025-01-201h 06When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E2: Polyamory Works for Me, as Long as It’s for Me, with DelphineIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage talks with Delphine, a full-service sex worker from the San Francisco Bay Area, about polyamory, non-monogamy, and balancing work with personal life. Delphine, who identifies as solo poly, shares how her approach to relationships emphasizes autonomy, personal growth, and creative expression. The conversation explores the challenges of dating as a sex worker, navigating societal expectations, and maintaining non-hierarchical dynamics in relationships. Delphine also reflects on how her work has enabled her to pursue passions like becoming a yoga teacher. The episode encourages listeners to rethink societal norms around...2025-01-1359 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E1: After The Hustle - Jack ParkerWelcome to After The Hustle! Formerly known as the After Party, this rebranded podcast kicks off with guest host Mx. Pucks A'Plenty, a burlesque performer, sex worker, and educator from Seattle, joining hosts Jessie Sage and Emily Foster. Together, they explore topics like FatCon, a conference celebrating fat liberation and community, and Jack Parker’s anthology on the trans-masculine sex work experience. Tune in for conversations that celebrate diversity, foster understanding, and shine a light on the intersections of sex work, polyamory, and marginalized identities. In This Episode: 00:01:11: Introducing Mx. Pucks A'Plenty, Burlesque Performer 00:02:37: Ov...2025-01-1029 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS3 E1: Men at Work: The Trans Masc Experience in Sex Work with Jack ParkerIn this conversation, Jessie Sage interviews Jack Parker, a writer and sex worker, about his experiences and the creation of the anthology Working Guys: A Transmasculine Sex Worker Anthology, which features stories from transmasculine sex workers. They discuss the diverse experiences within sex work, the importance of representation, and the impact of the anthology on the community. In this Episode: 00:03: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling Podcast 01:27: Exploring Lives of Sex Workers Beyond Work 02:44: Season 3 Updates & Schedule Changes 03:09: Rebranding of After Parties to After the Hustle 03:20: Jack...2025-01-061h 06When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E23: The Life of the Mind, Season 2 RoundtableIn this special roundtable episode wrapping up Season 2 of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and guests Aviva Ruse, Amber Délice, and Madeleine Blair dive into the complexities of the mind. They discuss the connection between the brain, emotions, and personal experiences, exploring how the mind processes thoughts and feelings while balancing mental and physical experiences. The conversation touches on the challenges and pleasures of living in one's mind and the importance of grounding oneself in reality. They also examine emotional states like jealousy and envy, particularly in relation to those with s...2024-12-091h 23When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E22 AP: I'm a Dominatrix With a PhD, and There's a Lot of UsIn the Season 2 finale of When We’re Not Hustling, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster come together for an Afterparty episode to reflect on Olivia Snow’s interview. They discuss her insights on surveillance and sex work, the challenges of balancing personal and professional identities, and the complexities of the industry. The conversation also explores the idea of sex work as a queer identity and the need for solidarity across the community. Wrapping up the season, the hosts share reflections, gratitude, and holiday wishes for their listeners. In This Episode: 00:05: Introduction to the Afte...2024-12-0446 minSage Advice with Sinn SageSage Advice with Sinn SageJessie SageThis week Sinn sits down with sex columnist and writer Jessie Sage. Jessie is the host of the When We're Not Hustling Podcast and writes the column Pillow Talk with Jessie Sage!Follow her on all her socialsEmail us your questions at sinnsagepodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2024-12-021h 27When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E22: I'm a Dominatrix With a PhD, and There's a Lot of Us, With Olivia SnowIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia’s dissertation on cannibalism and capitalism in 19th-century American literature. Together, Jessie and Olivia reflect on their experiences and the broader implications of their work, offering a nuanced look at the co...2024-12-021h 06When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E21 AP: Living in a Van and Doing Psychedelics Changed My LifeIn this episode of *When We're Not Hustling After Party*, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster discuss the appeal of van life and the challenges of minimal living. Emery shares his dream of a U.S. road trip and a simplified lifestyle, while Jessie reflects on her own experiences with van living, including the difficulties of maintaining cleanliness in small spaces. They explore the emotional significance of housing security, the comforts of home ownership, and the dynamics of solo versus group travel. The conversation shifts to psychedelics, examining their potential for self-discovery, ego reduction, and heightened self-awareness. The...2024-11-2746 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E21: Living in a Van and Doing Psychedelics Changed My Life with Sinn SageIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage welcomes Sinn Sage, a longtime content creator and AVN Hall of Famer. Sinn shares her unique journey in the sex industry, from her early days as a stripper to producing indie porn and collaborating with her husband. The conversation explores her adventurous lifestyle, including living in a van, and her experiences with psychedelic medicine as a tool for personal growth and consciousness expansion. The episode highlights Sinn's multifaceted life and challenges societal stigmas around sex work, encouraging open and honest discussions.  In This Episode:  00:01: Introduction an...2024-11-251h 12When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E20 AP: I Throw Sex Parties, and There's No Boys AllowedIn this When We're Not Hustling After Party episode, hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Emery Fields discuss Josie Oakley's episode, highlighting her dedication to organizing safe, inclusive sex-positive events and her activism with SWOP Pittsburgh. They explore how Josie’s work extends beyond event planning, advocating for reduced penalties for prostitution to make sex work safer and more accessible. The hosts examine the social dynamics and thoughtful guest curation that go into Josie's events, balancing newcomers with regulars, while discussing the importance of consent, self-awareness, and accountability. Reflecting on Josie’s honesty about her personal growth around past cons...2024-11-2034 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E20: I Throw Sex Parties, and There's No Boys Allowed with Josie OakleyIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Josie Oakley, a Pittsburgh-based escort and advocate. Josie discusses her personal journey and her efforts to create safer, more inclusive spaces, including organizing "No Boys Allowed" sex parties. These events prioritize safety, consent, and community, providing a much-needed refuge from the presence of cis men. Josie also highlights her advocacy with SWOP Pittsburgh, where she is working to change local laws to reduce sex work penalties to civil violations. Additionally, Josie talks about her involvement in creative projects like the "Only Bans" game...2024-11-1850 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E19: The Holy Hour Book Launch Special Live EpisodeIn a special live episode, When We're Not Husting collaborates with Stay Gold Books, Working Girls Press, and SWOP Pittsburgh to celebrate the launch of Working Girls Press's debut anthology, The Holy Hour: An Anthology of Sex, Work, Magic, and the Divine. The event features impactful readings from the anthology, alongside discussions on the intersections of sex work, spirituality, and identity. Emily Foster leads panel discussions that dive into themes of integrity, emotional labor, and boundaries, bringing depth and nuance to the conversation around sex work. Speakers underscore the importance of community support, highlighting how solidarity helps...2024-11-112h 43When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E18 AP: I'm a Proud Bed-Rotter, and I Think Everyone Should Try ItIn this episode of When We're Not Hustling: The Afterparty, hosts Jesse Sage, Emily Foster, and guest host Emery Fields discuss the concept of "bedrotting," inspired by a recent episode featuring Lana Hart—a New York City-based stripper, writer, sex worker, and stand-up comic. In her article for the Tryst Blog titled "Hobby Whores," Lana describes "bedrotting" as the intentional act of lying in bed to relax and recharge. The hosts emphasize the importance of viewing downtime as an active and valuable part of self-care, especially in a hustle-driven economy where constant productivity is often the norm. They highlight ho...2024-11-0635 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E18: I'm a Proud Bed-Rotter, and I Think Everyone Should Try It with Lana HartIn this special crossover episode with Tryst blog's "Hobby Whores" column, host Jessie Sage sits down with Lana Hart, a sex worker, comedian, and writer, to explore the concept of "bed rotting." Described as the act of lying in bed to recharge and care for oneself, bed rotting is framed as an essential form of self-care—especially for those in demanding professions like sex work. Together, Lana and Jessie discuss the mental and emotional demands of sex work, from the pressure of constant social engagement to the need for meaningful downtime. They challenge societal expectations around productivity, em...2024-11-0441 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E17 AP: I'm Happier, Wealthier, and More Satisfied Single In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts explore the themes of singlehood, societal expectations, and the importance of friendships through the lens of Gem DeMilo's story. Gem, who has chosen to remain intentionally single after past relationships, sheds light on the societal pressure to prioritize romantic relationships and how she values friendships instead. The discussion also delves into how societal norms often restrict men from forming intimate friendships and how this contributes to a loneliness epidemic. Moreover, the conversation highlights how being single can be an empowering choice rather than an indication of loneliness...2024-10-3034 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E17: I'm Happier, Wealthier, and More Satisfied Single with Gem DeMilo Host Jessie Sage sits down with Gem DeMilo for a heartfelt discussion about redefining fulfillment beyond romantic partnerships. Gem opens up about her solo journeys to Mexico City and Iceland, sharing how travel has deepened her life’s meaning and enriched her sense of self. Together, they explore the importance of close friendships, the unique joys of single life, and the ways society’s expectations can often obscure personal happiness. Gem emphasizes that her connections with friends and her beloved pet have brought her profound love and contentment. Their conversation also delves into the challenges and misconceptions surr...2024-10-2858 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E16 AP: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts discuss Kaytlin Bailey, a multifaceted individual who has significantly influenced the podcasting, sex work, and activist communities. Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Milk Glass delve into Kaytlin's extensive contributions, including her critical feedback shaping the show's messaging that sex work is legitimate work. They also highlight her historical insights and her juxtaposition of personal experiences, such as her father's military service and her own sex work, to explore broader societal issues. The conversation underscores Kaytlin's impact on the hosts and the themes of their show, emphasizing the...2024-10-1634 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E16: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway with Kaytlin Bailey Kaytlin Bailey discusses her show "Whore's Eye View," which combines comedy with a historical perspective on sex work, blending stand-up comedy with a real history lecture. She shares how her father's military background and her experiences as a sex worker influenced her writing, exploring themes of exploitation and violence across different professions. Through her show, Kaytlin aims to provide a nuanced understanding of sex work by juxtaposing it with other forms of labor and highlighting the boundaries and consent involved in both. Kaytlin also talks about her passion for boxing, which started as a way to channel...2024-10-141h 05When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E15 AP: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and SkinIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts, Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melissa Milk, engage in a lively discussion about their personal experiences and reflections on the topics of spirituality, sexuality, and consciousness. They start by expressing their love for October and share some amusing anecdotes about Halloween costumes and quirky questions from clients. As the conversation progresses, they delve into deeper subjects, such as the importance of understanding bodily functions and hygiene, especially in the context of working with clients who have high support needs. The hosts also touch on their backgrounds and...2024-10-0936 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E15: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and Skin with Galen GraceIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews Galen Grace, a Pittsburgh-based tantric massage therapist and writer who shares his profound spiritual journey and life experiences, including a near-death health crisis, spiritual awakenings through plant medicine, and the integration of his spiritual practice into everyday life. Galen's spoken word performance recounts his transformative trips to the desert Southwest and his endeavor to recover from significant personal losses and health challenges. Throughout the discussion, Galen elaborates on his background in theater and writing, his transition to offering sacred touch professionally, and the impact of his...2024-10-071h 07When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E14 AP: I Wrote a Ghost Story About the Dungeon That I Worked in for YearsIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage and Emily Foster are joined by guest host Melodie KG for her final episode in September. The trio discusses their experiences with managing multiple public personas and the complications that arise from separating their professional and private lives. They delve into the challenges sex workers face when publishing under pseudonyms, sharing personal anecdotes about navigating privacy and safety concerns. The conversation then shifts to reflecting on the interview with dominatrix and writer Stephanie Parent, who authored a Gothic horror novel set in a haunted...2024-10-0219 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E14: I Wrote a Ghost Story About the Dungeon That I Worked in for Years with Stephanie ParentIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews writer and professional submissive Stephanie Parent. Stephanie discusses her journey into sex work, particularly her time working at a commercial dungeon in Los Angeles. She shares insights into the complexities of being a pro-submissive, the community and support among women in the industry, and the cathartic process of writing about her experiences. Stephanie's novel "The Briars," a gothic horror set in a dungeon, draws heavily from her real-life experiences, blending fiction with the emotional and psychological realities of sex work. The discussion also touches on the...2024-09-3057 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E13 AP: I'm a DJ and I'm Obsessed With Pop Music (Not Taylor Swift)In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling at the Afterparty," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, along with guest host  Melodie KG, discuss a variety of topics, including the recent acquisition of 501(C)(3) status for their show, allowing fans to make tax-deductible donations. Jessie shares a humorous and embarrassing story from her childhood, highlighting the pitfalls of dressing up for school spirit days. This leads to a broader conversation about the value of comfort and confidence in personal and professional settings. The discussion then transitions to the impact of AI and technology on their work and personal l...2024-09-2527 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E13: I'm a DJ and I'm Obsessed With Pop Music (Not Taylor Swift) with Courtney TroubleIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews Courtney Trouble, a longtime friend who has been involved in the queer porn industry for over two decades. Courtney discusses their journey from starting in the queer punk scene in Olympia, Washington, to moving to San Francisco, where they became a central figure in the queer porn movement. They also talk about their involvement in organizing the annual "Queerly Beloved" party, which has grown from a backyard gathering to a large-scale event that celebrates queer culture, music, and community. Throughout the conversation, they touch on topics like the...2024-09-231h 09When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E12 AP: Actually, What I Do on My Own Time Is Nobody's Business In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melodie KG discuss their recent interview with Dominique Rystan. The conversation centers around the critique and premise of the show. Dominique's primary concern is about the extent to which sex workers — who are often public — should share their personal lives and how much of their existence becomes consumable content. The hosts reflect on this, discussing how they've navigated the balance between maintaining privacy and sharing parts of their lives with their audience. The discussion also delves into the broader implications of shar...2024-09-1833 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E12: Actually, What I Do on My Own Time Is Nobody's Business with Dominique RystanIn the podcast episode "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage interviews Dominique Rystan, a seasoned porn performer and dominatrix. Dominique shares her journey of maintaining a clear separation between her work and personal life. She emphasizes that while she enjoys her work, she prefers to keep her hobbies and personal experiences private to avoid them being consumed as content. This separation helps her preserve her personal space and spirit, protecting her interests from being tainted by her professional persona. Dominique also discusses the complexities and challenges of being a public figure in the sex industry, including...2024-09-1648 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E11 AP: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the After-Party," Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melodie KG discuss Amber Délice, who runs an immersive theater business intertwined with her sex work. The hosts express their fascination with Amber's unique approach, which includes elaborate, long-term dates and specially curated experiences designed to foster intimacy and self-reflection. They marvel at the creativity and depth of Amber's services, such as a "conversational pilgrimage" and immersive role-playing scenarios for couples and individuals. They also reflect on the transformative potential of these experiences, which can help people explore their identities and rejuvenate their r...2024-09-1118 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E11: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives with Amber DéliceIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage engages in a deep and insightful conversation with Amber Délice, an independent provider and companion based in Boulder, Colorado. Amber explains how her work in immersive theater involves creating transformative and artistic experiences for individuals and couples, often helping them navigate life changes, emotional challenges, and relationship dynamics. These experiences are carefully crafted to involve various sensory elements and often incorporate elements of chance and spontaneity to create memorable and impactful moments. Amber draws parallels between her immersive theater work and her work as a s...2024-09-0959 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E10 AP: Monster Romances and Other Ways to Wind DownIn the latest episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The Afterparty," hosts Jessie and Emily welcome Melodie KG as the guest host for September! The episode kicks off with a light-hearted conversation on various topics, including Melodie's upcoming column on sex work and counterculture, inspired by Jessie. The hosts also dive into the nuances of sex work, discussing the challenges and misconceptions surrounding it. Jessie announces a partnership with Black Venom Digital to provide a website giveaway, emphasizing the importance of supporting sex workers and adult industry professionals with quality digital services. The conversation further explores the...2024-09-0439 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E10: Monster Romances and Other Ways to Wind Down with Adrie RoseAdrie Rose is a Jamaican-American writer and photographer from Florida. Adrie discusses her upcoming book titled "I Hate My Job," which explores the ambivalent feelings sex workers often have about their profession. Additionally, she shares insights into her podcast "Pages and Prejudice," which she co-hosts with Stitch to discuss romance literature and media. Adrie also talks about her personal interests and recent activities, including her travels for work and her plans to buy a home in Pittsburgh. The conversation touches on topics such as Adrie's favorite romance authors, her experiences with fan fiction, and the challenges of...2024-09-0258 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E9 AP: I Used My Dirty Slut Money to Buy Big Ass ToolsIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Ashley Ramos explore the remarkable journey of Maya Bates, a cam girl and clip producer who leads an all-women construction crew. They delve into the unique challenges women face in male-dominated industries, such as overcoming sexism and building trust, while also highlighting the importance of creating safe spaces for women, the elderly, and those living alone. The hosts share personal stories of encountering sexism across different fields, shedding light on the broader societal challenges women face. They also discuss the growing...2024-08-2824 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E9: I Used My Dirty Slut Money to Buy Big Ass Tools with Maiia BatesEpisode 9 features a converation with Maiia Bates, a 10-year veteran of the sex industry. Maiia discusses her journey from live shows to content creation and the burnout she has experienced over time. She now runs an all-women construction company in her town, providing safe and trustworthy services primarily to vulnerable populations like elderly folks and women. Maiia shares her passion for tiling and her satisfaction from doing tangible work. Jessie and Maiia also discuss the challenges and rewards of working in the adult industry, as well as the isolation that comes from the stigma attached to their...2024-08-261h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E8 AP: Disabled Folks Need Hand Jobs, TooIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the Afterparty," hosts Jessie Sage, Ashley Ramos, and Emily Foster delve into Amber Glow's episode. Amber offers a unique perspective on the sex industry, emphasizing the crucial role of human touch and connection, particularly for disabled individuals. She discusses the financial challenges her clients face and the ethical dilemmas she encounters in her work. The hosts reflect on her insights, highlighting the often-overlooked importance of sex work in providing emotional and physical support to disabled clients. The conversation expands to explore themes such as privilege, spirituality, and the ethics...2024-08-2129 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E8: Disabled Folks Need Hand Jobs, Too with Amber GlowIn this episode of WWNH, Jessie speaks wth Amber Glow, a dedicated sex work and disability rights advocate. Amber shares her experiences in sex work, with a strong emphasis on the healing components of her work. She discusses the obstacles she encountered, like moving from San Francisco to Florida, adapting to cultural changes, and managing her disabilities. Despite these challenges, Amber is committed to working with disabled clients, tackling both financial and accessibility issues. She reflects on her transformative sexological bodywork training and the complexities of her practice, including balancing her rates with her own financial needs. Amber closes...2024-08-1957 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E7 AP: An Honest Woman's Review on Marriage and Sex Work In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage and her co-hosts, Emily Foster and Ashley Ramos discuss the complexities and emotional intricacies of sex work, drawing from Charlotte Shane's books "An Honest Woman" and "Prostitute Laundry." They delve into the contrasting experiences of being a younger, unattached sex worker versus an older, married one, highlighting the different types of client relationships and the challenges of maintaining boundaries. Jessie shares personal anecdotes about the emotional labor involved in sex work, such as dealing with clients' feelings of love and the eventual end of these professional relationships when...2024-08-1429 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E7: An Honest Woman's Review on Marriage and Sex Work with Charlotte ShaneIn this week's episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage dives deep with author Charlotte Shane about her latest book, An Honest Woman. Their conversation explores the intricate relationships between sex workers and clients, the juggling act of personal and professional lives, and the distinctive dynamics of marriages. Charlotte shares how her time in the sex industry has influenced her perspectives on intimacy, relationships, and societal norms, and offers a glimpse into her writing process and the emotional journey of revisiting past relationships for her memoir. Jessie and Charlotte delve into the nuanced intersections of...2024-08-121h 14When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E6 AP: I Fought the Law and Won... So I Kept on Fighting with Jelena VermillionIn this episode we introduce our August After Party co-host Ashley Ramos, a painter from Pittsburgh and a long-time friend of the host. The episode centers around a diverse discussion involving a writer, a painter, and a musician, with Emily, the producer. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration. A significant portion of the discussion revolves around an episode featuring Jelena Vermilion, a trans sex worker and advocate from Hamilton, Canada. The hosts and guests express their admiration for Jelena's extensive work in the sex worker rights movement, including her efforts to archive "Spread" magazine. This project...2024-08-0723 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E6: I Fought the Law and Won... So I Kept on Fighting with Jelena Vermilion This week on When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage talks to Jelena Vermilion, a trans femme sex worker, activist, and the founder of SWAP Hamilton. Jelena's extensive advocacy work includes fighting for the decriminalization of sex work and raising awareness about police violence and systemic harassment faced by sex workers. Jelena shares her personal journey, including her decision to pursue nursing in honor of her mother and her experiences with police violence and landlord harassment due to her identity as a trans sex worker. Despite these challenges, she has won several legal battles, further fueling her...2024-08-051h 05When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E5 AP: Dancing Became My Life & My Love with Emery FieldsIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After Party," host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and Jessie's mom discuss their experiences and thoughts about Emery Fields' interview.  Jessie praises Emery's professionalism, kindness, and unique ability to make clients feel comfortable, sharing how she initially reached out to him and their subsequent interactions. Emily and Jessie also reflect on the challenges and creativity involved in making a living in the arts and sex work. As the talk progresses, the trio explores the idea of personal talents they wish they possessed, with Jessie expressing a desire to b...2024-07-3133 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E5: Dancing Became My Life & My Love with Emery FieldsEmery Fields — the first cis male escort featured on the podcast — shares his background and experiences. He talks about his journey from being a professional dancer, involved in teaching, performing, and choreographing, to becoming a full-service provider during the pandemic when the entertainment industry shut down. Emery discusses how his skills and experiences as a dancer translated well into his work as an escort, highlighting the similarities between the two professions, such as flexibility, physical demands, and the gig-based nature of the work. The conversation explores the dynamics of Emery's clientele, which primarily consists of men who hire...2024-07-291h 02When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E4 AP: Women In Tech: Then, Now, And In The Future With AnnaIn this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After Party," host Jessie Sage and producer Emily Foster are joined by Jessie's mom to discuss the multifaceted life and career of Anna, also known as Honey Whipped Feta. The conversation delves into the complexities and rewards of sex work, emphasizing the significant financial pressures that often drive individuals into the industry. Jessie's mom shares her evolving perspective on sex work, noting the hard work and varied experiences of those involved. The discussion also touches on the supportive communities that can form around sex workers, highlighting the importance of financial...2024-07-2438 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E4: Women in Tech: Then, Now, and in the Future with AnnaIn this episode, Jessie speaks with Anna, a content creator who transitioned into tech as a social media brand strategist. They discuss the challenges and rewards of balancing multiple roles, such as writing, fashion, and sex work, while also emphasizing the importance of diversifying one's interests and building personal platforms to avoid reliance on unstable tech companies. Jessie and Anna also touch on the personal impacts of their work, including body image issues and the necessity of meticulous scheduling to manage their various commitments effectively. Throughout the conversation, they explore the intersection of tech and sex work...2024-07-221h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E3 AP: Pup Play Showed Me I'm Too Nice to Domme & Other Stories with Ruby LynneIn this After Party, Emily Foster, Jessie Sage, and Jessiee's mom discuss Ruby Lynne's recent WWNH podcast appearance. They emphasize the importance of humanizing and destigmatizing sex work by introducing and integrating personal relationships into their content. Jessie and Emily reflect on how bringing in friends and family provides a more holistic view of sex workers' lives outside their profession. The conversation also touches on the experiences of Ruby Lynne, a content creator and former social worker who transitioned into sex work later in life, highlighting the challenges and perceptions faced by older sex workers. The discussion...2024-07-1742 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E3: Pup Play Showed Me I'm Too Nice to Domme & Other Stories with Ruby LynneThe episode's guest is Ruby Lynne, a 57-year-old mature content creator and former social worker. Ruby discusses her journey from social work to sex work, the impact of her new career on her life, and the challenges and rewards of running her own business. Ruby shares her experiences with dominance in sex work, including a humorous anecdote about her first pup play scene and how it revealed her difficulty in being mean to nice people. She also discusses how her work as RubyLynne has influenced her personal life, particularly in terms of caring less about others' opinions...2024-07-1559 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E2 AP: Powerlifting Revealed the Self I've Always Been Inside with Siri DahlJessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Jessie's mom discuss various topics ranging from the logistical aspects of their Patreon page to more personal reflections on strength training and motherhood. The conversation then shifts to their guest, Siri Dahl — a successful porn star and powerlifter — highlighting her positive influence and the inspiration she provides.  The discussion also delves into the hosts' personal experiences with physical activities and the evolving perceptions of their bodies. Jessie reflects on her marathon training and how it shaped her understanding of physical and mental endurance. The trio also touches upon the pressures of motherhood and t...2024-07-1043 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E2: Powerlifting Revealed the Self I've Always Been Inside with Siri Dahl Jessie Sage interviews Siri Dahl, an award-winning adult film performer. They discuss Siri's journey into powerlifting, which began as a way to become more fit and confident in her body. Despite having no prior athletic background, Siri found a passion for strength training and barbell movements, which eventually led her to hire a coach and take powerlifting more seriously. Siri highlights the importance of having a good coach for motivation and accountability, and how powerlifting has positively impacted her relationship with food and body image. The conversation also touches on Siri's experiences with injuries and how they...2024-07-081h 11When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E1 AP: A Funny Thing Happened at the Plastic Surgeon's with Aviva RuseWelcome to Season 2! In our first AfterParty of the season, Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Jessie's mom discuss their takeaways from Episode 1, featuring West Hollywood escort Aviva Ruse. We focus our discussion on Aviva's Episode 1 interview, where she shared her harrowing experience of getting severely burned during a liposuction procedure due to medical negligence, which led to a long recovery and a lawsuit. Despite the severity of her injuries, Aviva recounts her story with humor, highlighting her resilience and ability to find joy even in dire circumstances. Aviva's journey also touches on her...2024-07-0339 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS2 E1: A Funny Thing Happened at the Plastic Surgeon's with Aviva RuseWelcome back, we are so excited for Season 2!  In Episode 1 of Season 2, host Jessie Sage talks to Aviva Ruse, a West Hollywood-based escort and former stand-up comic, who shares her journey of being diagnosed with autism following a traumatic experience with a botched plastic surgery procedure. Aviva discusses how dismantling internalized stigma and understanding her neurodivergence helped her embrace her career in sex work, highlighting the supportive and magical community among sex workers. In this Episode:  00:01: Introduction to the Podcast 02:08: Season 2 Excitement! 06:36: Guest Introduction: Aviva Ruiz ...2024-07-011h 03When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E20: Season 1 Roundtable, SpiritIn this season finale, we bring together five Season 1 guests for a heartfelt conversation about what feeds their spirits. We talk about magic, burnout, capitalism, desire, hedonism, work, love, drugs, and so much more.  A sincere thank you to everyone who joined us this season and helped our show grow. So much love to all the guests and all the listeners.  Season 2 will drop on July 1!  Hosts: Jessie Sage & Emily Foster Guests: Jessie's Mom Pucks A'Plenty Trip Richards Mary Muse M...2024-06-032h 11When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E19 AP: A Naked Look at What It's Like to be Married to a Sex Worker with Dr. PJ Patella-ReyIn this very special After Party, we discuss what it's like to be a partner to a sex worker with Jessie's life partner, PJ. Hosts: Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster2024-05-311h 01When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E19: A Naked Look at What It's Like to be Married to a Sex WorkerIn this very special epsidoe, host Jessie Sage brings on her life partner, PJ Patella-Rey. They have a heartfelt conversation about the challenges and dynamics of their relationship. PJ talks about their history in sex work and experiences in the industry, grappling with trauma, stigma, and the emotional demands of sex work, while also expressing gratitude for the financial stability it offers. They also share their perspective on navigating the complexities of being in a relationship with a full service sex worker, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries, understanding each other's challenges, and...2024-05-271h 24When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E18 AP: Direct Action & Changing Careers with Melodie Garcia Host Jessie Sage talks to producer Emily Foster and friend of the show Melissa Milk about Melodie Garcia's episode. They discuss various aspects of sex work, creativity, career pivots, and the importance of resources for sex workers. The conversation delves into how sex work can lead to creative pursuits and diverse skill sets, highlighting the challenges of stigma and the need for support in transitioning to other careers. The guests also touch on the significance of redistributing resources and destigmatizing sex work within different communities, emphasizing the value of education, advocacy, and community support. People:2024-05-2323 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E18 AP: Direct Action & Changing Careers with Melodie GarciaAfter Party! Host Jessie Sage talks to producer Emily Foster and friend of the show Melissa Milk about Melodie Garcia's episode. They discuss various aspects of sex work, creativity, career pivots, and the importance of resources for sex workers. The conversation delves into how sex work can lead to creative pursuits and diverse skill sets, highlighting the challenges of stigma and the need for support in transitioning to other careers. The guests also touch on the significance of redistributing resources and destigmatizing sex work within different communities, emphasizing the value of education, advocacy, and community support. 2024-05-2223 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E18: Direct Action & Changing Careers at Any Age with Melodie GarciaThis week we talk to Melodie Garcia, the co-director of the New Moon Network, and a public sector consultant specializing in human services program design, grassroots organizational development, and community engagement. In her consulting practice, she helps government agencies develop trauma-informed programming for low-resourced and over-policed communities including drug users, sex workers, and people living unhoused. We talk to Melodie about their history as a sex worker, the way that they are working with sex workers to transfer the valuable skills they have to other sectors, philanthropy, marriage, relationships with clients, the Kendreick Lamar and D...2024-05-2059 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E17 AP: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x BluntsAfter Party! Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster digest S1 E17: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x Blunts. We talk about disability, performance, gender, and so much more! People: Guest: Body by Blunts Hosts: Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on Patreon.com/spiotextual2024-05-1634 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E17 AP: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x BluntsAfter Party!  Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster digest S1 E17: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body x Blunts. We talk about disability, performance, gender, and so much more!  People:  Guest: Body by Blunts Host: Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual2024-05-1534 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E17: When They Say You Can't Sing, Sing Louder! with Body by BluntsThis week we talk to BodyxBlunts, a Texas-based sex worker, singer, burlesque, and drag performer!  We talk about their choice to have a double mastectomy, how this impacts their brand, how they got into singing, the successful burlesque trip they run, and so much more!    Guest Recommendations: Books: The 5th Season: Every Age Must Come to an End, by N.K. Jemisin Music: Meg the Stallion The Best of Sade    People:  Guest: Body by Blunts Host: ...2024-05-131h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E16 AP: Build a City, Burn it Down with Ava AdoreAfter Party! Melissa Milk, Jessie Sage, and Emily Foster discuss the playa, community, and equal giving. Ava Adore Episode on Burning Man2024-05-0938 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E16 AP: Build a City, Burn it Down with Ava AdoreAfter Party! Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster digest S1 E16: Build a City, Burn it Down with Ava Adore, talking about camping, dating apps, relationships, neurodivergence, adventure, and more!  People:  Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Melissa Milk  Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual  2024-05-0838 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E16: Build a City, Burn it Down with Ava AdoreAva Adore is a lifetime Chicagian who describes her city as a queer and affordable haven, but also talks about why she calls the Nevada desert her home for 6 weeks out of every year during Burning Man.  We discuss what it's like to be a traveling escort, the principles of Burning Man, what has pulled her back every year since 2011, understanding herself in light of her late autism diagnosis, and so much more!  Guest Recommendations: Books: Contemporary Prostitution: Study of a Social Question, by Leo Taxil, translated by Jack V Parker...2024-05-061h 09When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E15 AP: Horses, Healing, & Finding Yourself After Illness with Allie AwesomeAfter Party!  We discuss Allie Awesome's journey and how illness has affected all of us, how ketamine feels, equine therapy, and more. With special guest Melissa Milk. People:  Host: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster & Melissa Milk Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual     2024-05-0227 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E15: Horses, Healing, & Finding Yourself After Illness with Allie AwesomeIn a very powerful and heartfelt episode, Allie Awesome talks about illness, depression, and healing through ketamine treatment and equine therapy.  Guest Recommendations: Books: Super Communicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection by Charles Duhigg Horses Never Lie: The Heart of Passive Leadership by Mark Rashid Podcasts: Knowledge Fight The New Abnormal Pod Saves America Behind the Bastards If Books Could Kill People:  Guest: Allie Awesome Host: Jessie Sage Pro...2024-04-291h 04When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E14 AP: Radical Trust & Hitchhiking the World with Chloe NovaAfter Party! Jessie Sage, Melissa Milk, and Emily Foster digest S1 E14: Radical Trust & Hitchhiking the World with Chloe Nova, talking about risk, travel, adventure, criminalization, and what hitchhiking and sex work have in common.  People:  Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Melissa Milk Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four You can support our podcast on Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/sapiotextual  2024-04-2424 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E14: Radical Trust & Hitchhiking the World with Chloe NovaWhat does it take to stand on the side of the highway with your thumb in the air, waiting for a stranger to pick you up? For artist, sex worker, and community organizer Chloe Nova, it’s a mix of curiosity and radical trust. Indeed, Chloe sees hitchhiking as more than just a mode of transportation from one location than another, it’s a way of navigating life. On this episode of When We’re Not Hustling, Choe and Jessie dive into Chloe’s experiences hitchhiking in over 40 countries. While her interest in hitchhiking was born out of an ef...2024-04-2248 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E13 AP: Clowns & Joy as a Form of Resistance with Ramona FlourHost Jessie Sage and producer Emily Foster digest S1 E13: Clowns & Joy as a Form of Resistance with Ramona Flour, talking about performance, masks, neurodivergence, academia, femmephobia, and so much more! 2024-04-1725 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E13: Clowns & Joy as a Form of Resistance with Ramona FlourWhat does it mean to be a collector, especially when what you collect is clowns — a thing that is commonly feared or disregarded? For NYC-based sex worker Ramona Flour, her “silly little hobby” is not just fueled by her love of clowns, but by a commitment to joy as a form of resistance. In a frequently dark world, Ramona insists on making ritual space for frivolity and joy. In this episode of When We’re Not Hustling, Jessie and Ramona talk about the origin of Ramona’s love for clowns, the act of collecting, jester privilege, masking as a surviva...2024-04-1549 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E12 AP: Poetry & Personas that Heal with Madeleine BlairHost Jessie Sage and producer Emily Foster digest S1 E12: Poetry & Personas that Health with Madeleine Blair, talking about performance, writing, poetry, polyamory, and so much more. 2024-04-1018 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E12: Poetry & Personas That Heal with Madeleine BlairThis episode of When We’re Not Hustling is an invitation into the writer’s room: an intimate space to process anything and everything through the written word. Whether she is writing about sex work or topics unrelated, Madeleine Blair makes sense of the world through expertly crafted essays, vivacious poetry, and all other written creations. In this episode, Madeleine sits down with host and fellow writer Jessie Sage to talk about writing. They discuss the upcoming anthology The Holy Hour: An Anthology of Sex Work, Magic, and the Divine, in which both of their work appear. 2024-04-081h 05When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E11 AP: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix CalidaHost Jessie Sage and producer Emily Foster digest S1 E11: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix Calida, talking about gardening, crafting, gendered socialization, and so much more. 2024-04-0318 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E11: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix CalidaHow can gardening be a radical act of sustainability and community care? How do we build community with neighbors? For Phoenix Calida, gardening is not only a calming ritual of self-care, but also a way to create and sustain community. In this episode of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Phoenix to talk about gardening: prepping, homesteading, canning, the sleeping behavior of bees, climate, and so much more.  Phoenix talks about the necessity of neighborly rapport and how gardening can fit into community building. They touch on prepping as an inhe...2024-04-011h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E10 AP: Aging & Sexuality with SeskaJessie and Emily talk about aging, changing bodies, and how to regain your sense of self across the years.2024-03-2718 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E10: Aging & Sexuality with SeskaWhat does sex look like over the course of a lifetime? How does aging impact relationships and sex, and why do so few people talk about it? In this episode of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with veteran sex worker, Seska, to dive into aging and sexuality. Seska has worked in the sex industry for 25 years, and focuses her current cam work on aging and sexuality. In the episode, Seska talks about getting sober, supporting her mother at the end of her life, how cancer impacted her body and her life, and so...2024-03-251h 07When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E9: Fat Liberation & Joy with Mx. Pucks A'Plenty“Fat liberation  is   the  deliberate  tearing  down  of  systems  that  have  created  a  world  where  fat  people  are  denied  full  participation  in  society  and  life.” Mx. Pucks A'Plenty What is the connection between burlesque and fat liberation? How is fat liberation different and more more radical than body positivity? How are fat folks organizing and using activism to create a world without systems that deny fat people full participation in society? In Episode 9 of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with the #17 top most influential burlesque performers of 2023, Fat Con founder, and fat liberation activist Mx...2024-03-181h 01When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E8 AP: Ritual & Self Care with Ty RoseEmily Foster and Jessie Sage discuss the boundaries of self care, fasting, boundaries, and more on this episode of the WWNH After Party.2024-03-1315 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E8: Ritual & Self-Care with Ty RoseWhat does it mean to invest in self-care?  Host Jessie Sage and guest Ty Rose delve into the benefits, the importance, and the impact of ritual and self-care. Ty discusses self-care rituals both big and small, from doing a multi-day fast in the Bahamas, to incorporating boundaries into her relationships at home. Whether it’s her daily break from all devices and social media, or her meditation and journaling, Ty shares how self-care is essential to her everyday life. Jessie and Ty cover everything from changing people-pleasing tendencies to aftercare following emotionally intense situations to self-care as a c...2024-03-1140 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E7 AP: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 1 & 2) After Party! Jessie and Emily talk about Jessie's first experience with Shibari. Pittsburgh City Paper Shibari article by Jessie Sage:  Shibari, or rope bondage, can bring pleasure, pain, connection, and sometimes major surprises   People:  Hosts: Jessie Sage and Emily Foster Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four    2024-03-0739 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E7: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 2) with Melissa MilkIn Part 2 of this 2-episode series, host Jessie Sage sits down with rigger Melissa Milk to talk about the rope scene they did together.  This episode touches on ADHD and neurodivergence, the sensory expreince of rope, the responsibility tops have to keep rope bottoms safe, aftercare, fatness, and more.  If you missed it, make sure to listen to Part 1 of this episode where Jessie talks with professional submissive Hunny Daniels about their love of rope bondage and how it intersects with Autism! Guest Recommendations: Book: Conflict Is Not Abuse, by...2024-03-0541 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E6: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 1) with Hunny DanielsWhat does it mean to expand the notion of sex? How can we discover pleasure outside of a traditional focus on genitals and penetration? For Hunny Daniels, professional submissive and a member of the BDSM community, rope bondage provides space for them to engage with sexual gratification in a new way. In Part 1 of this 2-episode series, host Jessie Sage sits down with Hunny to talk about the ins and outs of the rope community and Hunny’s experiences in BDSM. They talk about how rope can be a sensory-seeking experience—especially for neurodivergent people—and how those...2024-03-0447 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E5 AP: Music, Pleasure, and Prayer with Mary MuseProducer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage debrief the wide-ranging conversion with Mary Muse in Episode 5 about everything from teaching to spirituality to sexuality.  2024-02-2127 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E5: Music, Pleasure, and Prayer with Mary MuseMary Muse—former teacher turned sex worker—has had a lifelong passion for music, which she only recently began to incorporate into her sex work. In this episode of When We’re Not Husting, host Jessie Sage and guest Mary Muse delve into their shared experiences of leaving the teaching profession and moving into sex work. Mary talks about her love for music and its impact on her life, and her decision to begin integrating her passion into her sex work persona.  They also talk about the way that teachers are expected to hides parts of their identit...2024-02-191h 04When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E4 AP: Being a Parent to an Adult Sex Worker with Jessie Sage's MomAfter Party! Producer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage sit down to talk about their feelings about the episodes. This time, they diver deep into the conversation with Jessie's mom and what it says about motherhood more broadly. You can find the written version of the interview with my mom on Tryst's Blog.  Host: Jessie Sage (@sapiotextual) Guest: Jessie's Mom Producer: Emily Foster Intern: Anna Fischer Music: Benjamin J Benamati The show is brought to you by Assembly Four. 2024-02-1520 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E4: Being a Parent to an Adult Sex Worker with Jessie Sage's MomSex work stigma runs deep, so it is common for parents of adult sex-working children (especially when they first find out) to feel shame about their kids’ choice to enter the sex trades.  In this very special fourth episode of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with her mom to discuss her mom's experience of being the parent of an adult sex worker. In a simultaneously intellectual and intimately personal conversation, Jessie’s mom details her reaction to Jessie’s career choice, the schism that it caused between them, and the healing that brought t...2024-02-121h 13When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E3: Anarchist Organizing & Community Care with Lucy BloomIn Episode 3, host Jessie Sage sits down with author, sex worker, and anarchist organizer Lucy Bloom to dive deep into what putting anarchist philosophy into action looks like on a political, social, and personal level. They discuss anarchism as an anti-hierarchical, anti-racist, and anti-capitalist movement. Lucy and Jessie also share their personal experiences of caretaking and the events that led to their radicalization. From distinguishing between the legalization and decriminalization of sex work to touching on the politics of prison abolition to sharing personal anecdotes about the caretaking experience for cancer survivors, this episode is...2024-01-2956 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E2 AP: Leaving Evangelicalism with Miss Koda VAfter Party!  When We're Not Hustling producer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage recap their feelings about insights about the podcast episodes. This time they reflect on the impact of religion on culture and family relationships through Pittsburgh-based dominatrix Miss Koda V's story of leaving evangelicism. Host: Jessie Sage (@sapiotextual) Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati The show is brought to you by Assembly Four.  You can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at @nothustlingpod.2024-01-1821 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E2: Leaving Evangelicalism with Miss Koda VAmerican culture is steeped in Christianity. Those who have decided to extricate themselves from the Church offer a unique perspective on the impact of religion, and what it means to leave those traditions behind. In Episode 2 of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Pittsburgh-based dominatrix Miss Koda V to discuss her experience leaving evangelical Christianity.  Miss Koda V discusses the link between African American identity and cultural Christianity; the fear-based governing of her community church; the nature of evangelical prophesying, falling out, and speaking in tongues; the divisiveness of the Tru...2024-01-151h 00When We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E1 AP: "Is Everything But Possible?" with Trip RichardsHost Jessie Sage and producer Emily foster digest E1 S1: Is Everything But Possible for Sex Workers, talking about what they learned from the discussion with guest Trip Richards. 2024-01-1017 minWhen We\'re Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButWhen We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything ButS1 E1: Is “Everything But” Possible for Sex Workers? With Guest Trip RichardsIn late-stage capitalism, who we are is often conflated with what we do. This has particular consequences for sex workers, whose labor is heavily stigmatized and criminalized. The hope of the show is to detangle this conflation and give sex workers space to talk about their lives outside their work.  In Episode 1 of When We’re Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage and guest Trip Richards—10-year veteran of the sex industry—talk about whether this goal is possible and/or desirable. Trip observes that sex work (along with other important aspects of his identity such as gender and neu...2024-01-0757 minPeepshow PodcastPeepshow PodcastAfter Dark Lita Lecherous, Courtney Trouble and Jessie SagePeepshow After Dark! Lita Lecherous, Courtney Trouble, and Jessie Sage get down and dirty, talking about our experiences in porn, phone sex, kink and BDSM, panty sales, and more!  2020-12-011h 02Peepshow PodcastPeepshow PodcastBonus Episode: Nonmonogamy Chat with Jessie and NookieIn this bonus episode, Jessie Sage talks to Nookie, founder of Dating Kinky, about nonmonogamy at the opening of the 2-day "It's Not Cheating, It's Ethical Nonmonogamy" virtual conference.  The conference was two days of webinars, talks, workshops and more—all about nonmonogamy, where presenters from around the world shared their perspectives. Jessie and Nookie talk about how they got into nonmonogamy, what it looks like for each of them, nonmonogamy and poly communities, and how sex work has impacted Jessie's relationship to nonmonogamy. If you are interested in checking out the 15 other epi...2020-07-261h 05