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Normal Goes A Long Way
90: Using Your Platform For Good (Part 2)
In this New Year, Jill Devine would like to challenge you to embrace the uncomfortable in 2024 and see how it provides growth in your life.Joining Jill this week to discuss embracing uncertainty and discomfort, Emily Elam. Emily loves to travel, serve the community, learn new things, and have fun! Her self confidence had been shaken by a painful divorce and she was looking to gain back the confidence she lost. She discussed how an uncomfortable solo journey helped her mental well-being. Emily also referenced the retreat episodes Jill talked about in 2023.Episode 79: YES Moments...
2024-02-20
27 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
89: Using Your Platform For Good (Part 1)
In this New Year, Jill Devine would like to challenge you to embrace the uncomfortable in 2024 and see how it provides growth in your life.Joining Jill this week to discuss embracing uncertainty and discomfort, Emily Elam. Emily loves to travel, serve the community, learn new things, and have fun! Her self confidence had been shaken by a painful divorce and she was looking to gain back the confidence she lost. She discussed how an uncomfortable solo journey helped her mental well-being. Emily also referenced the retreat episodes Jill talked about in 2023.Episode 79: YES Moments...
2024-02-06
16 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
88: Taking A Gap Year (Part 2)
In this New Year, Jill Devine would like to challenge you to embrace the uncomfortable in 2024 and see how it provides growth in your life.Audrey Fleetwood is no stranger to the podcast. She’s the daughter of Laura Fleetwood, Jill Devine’s spiritual mentor, and Audrey was on Episode 28: Two Public High School Students Discuss Their Faith Walk.Jill invited Audrey back on the podcast to discuss Audrey’s decision to get uncomfortable and take a gap year.From Wikipedia:A gap year, also known as a sabbatical year, is a peri...
2024-01-23
24 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
87: Taking A Gap Year (Part 1)
Welcome to a New Year and a new season of Normal Goes A Long Way! In this New Year, Jill would like to challenge you to embrace the uncomfortable in 2024 and see how it provides growth in your life.Our Season 6 debut begins with Audrey Fleetwood. Audrey is no stranger to the podcast. She’s the daughter of Laura Fleetwood, Jill Devine’s spiritual mentor, and Audrey was on Episode 28: Two Public High School Students Discuss Their Faith Walk.Jill invited Audrey back on the podcast to discuss Audrey’s decision to get uncomfortable and take a...
2024-01-09
24 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
81: YES Moments - The Importance of Retreating (Part 3)
YES moments have been introduced to Season 5 of the podcast and Jill Devine described what YES moments are in Episode 77.She realized she pigeon holed herself by keeping the YES moments to sermon messages only. YES moments occur all around us in different ways. The most recent YES moments Jill had happened while she was on a women’s retreat. In Part 3 of the conversation, Jill talked about what coming home from retreat looked and felt like and how she’s feeling at the present moment.Episode links Jill mentioned in the episode include:*E...
2023-10-17
12 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
80: YES Moments - The Importance of Retreating (Part 2)
YES moments have been introduced to Season 5 of the podcast and Jill Devine described what YES moments are in Episode 77.She realized she pigeon holed herself by keeping the YES moments to sermon messages only. YES moments occur all around us in different ways. The most recent YES moments Jill had happened while she was on a women’s retreat. In Part 2 of the conversation, Jill discusses the days leading up to the retreat, the day she left for the retreat, and what happened while on retreat.Episode links Jill mentioned in the episode include:...
2023-10-03
31 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
79: YES Moments - The Importance of Retreating (Part 1)
YES moments have been introduced to Season 5 of the podcast and Jill Devine described what YES moments are in Episode 77.She realized she pigeon holed herself by keeping the YES moments to sermon messages only. YES moments occur all around us in different ways. The most recent YES moments Jill had happened while she was on a women’s retreat. In this week’s episode, Jill provides the backstory on how she ended up at the women’s retreat.Episode links Jill mentioned in the episode include:Episode 57: Mental Health Struggles – Anxiety, Burnout, and Pani...
2023-09-19
19 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
77: What Are YES Moments?
We’re kicking off Season 5 with the introduction of something new, while also showcasing stories as we have been in Season 4.Jill Devine invited Ryan Pfendler on this week’s episode to talk about YES moments. Lately, Jill has noticed YES moments while she’s listening to sermons. She describes these moments as, “When I hear the Pastor mention something and it makes me want to audibly say YES and shake my head in agreement.” She had one of her first YES moments when Ryan was preaching one Sunday morning. You can access that message on YouTube.(253...
2023-08-22
16 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
76: A Mission To Create Hope and Transform Lives in Uganda (Part 2)
This week’s episode originally aired October 27, 2021 on Jill Devine’s other podcast, Two Kids and A Career.Andy Wiggins and Todd Larkin are the Co-Founders of Hearts & Hope for Uganda. Hearts & Hope is a St. Louis-area 501c3 nonprofit focused on transforming poor villages in Uganda through clean water, health & wellness, education, and small business development. Since its founding in 2011, Hearts & Hope has established 8 schools which provide education to over 2,000 children!Through Jill’s (and Andy & Todd’s) church, Messiah St. Charles, her family has been given an awesome opportunity to help a child in Uganda b...
2023-08-08
20 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
75: A Mission To Create Hope and Transform Lives in Uganda (Part 1)
This week’s episode originally aired October 27, 2021 on Jill Devine’s other podcast, Two Kids and A Career.Andy Wiggins and Todd Larkin are the Co-Founders of Hearts & Hope for Uganda. Hearts & Hope is a St. Louis-area 501c3 nonprofit focused on transforming poor villages in Uganda through clean water, health & wellness, education, and small business development. Since its founding in 2011, Hearts & Hope has established 8 schools which provide education to over 2,000 children!Through Jill’s (and Andy & Todd’s) church, Messiah St. Charles, her family has been given an awesome opportunity to help a child in Uganda b...
2023-08-01
27 min
Two Kids and A Career
137: How To Talk To Your Kids About Drugs
On August 4th, 2021, Richard Capriola joined Jill Devine to discuss his work as an addictions counselor, as well his book, The Addicted Child. You can hear that discussion on Episode 83: All Children Are Vulnerable To Substance Abuse.Since that conversation, Richard has gathered more information and statistics on drug use among kids. Jill Devine invited Richard to come back on Two Kids and A Career to share his findings.Originally published on August 4th, 2021:Richard Capriola spent 11 years working as an addictions counselor for Menninger Clinic in Houston, Texas before retiring in 2019. Menninger...
2023-05-24
27 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
68: Joy & Grief Coexist Together with Jen Myers Farmer (Part 2)
This week’s episode is Part 2 of the conversation with Jen Myers Farmer. If you know Jill Devine from her radio days, then you are bound to know Jen Myers Farmer. Jen and Jill worked closely together for almost ten years at the same radio station.In 2016, Jen was diagnosed with breast cancer and her difficult cancer journey continues to this day. Jill invited Jen to come on the podcast to talk about the journey she has been on, along with her perspective on everyday life. The most important part of the conversation (in Jill’s opinion) was...
2023-05-09
24 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
67: Joy & Grief Coexist Together with Jen Myers Farmer (Part 1)
If you know Jill Devine from her radio days, then you are bound to know Jen Myers Farmer. Jen and Jill worked closely together for almost ten years at the same radio station.In 2016, Jen was diagnosed with breast cancer and her difficult cancer journey continues to this day. Jill invited Jen to come on the podcast to talk about the journey she has been on, along with her perspective on everyday life. The most important part of the conversation (in Jill’s opinion) was the reinforcement that ups and downs in relationships are normal and how po...
2023-05-02
28 min
Two Kids and A Career
132: Joy and Grief Coexist Together with Jen Myers Farmer
If you know Jill Devine from her radio days, then you are bound to know Jen Myers Farmer. Jen and Jill worked closely together for almost ten years at the same radio station.In 2016, Jen was diagnosed with breast cancer and her difficult cancer journey continues to this day. Jill invited Jen to come on the podcast to talk about the journey she has been on, along with her perspective on everyday life. The most important part of the conversation (in Jill’s opinion) was the reinforcement that ups and downs in relationships are normal and how po...
2023-03-29
46 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
52: A Widower's Advice On Living Life To The Fullest with Brandon Janous (Part 1)
This week’s episode originally aired February 24, 2021 on Jill Devine’s other podcast, Two Kids and A Career. Through a mutual friend, Jill Devine was introduced to Brandon Janous. Brandon lost his wife, Rachel, to breast cancer on March 1st, 2020. Jill invited Brandon on the podcast to share Rachel's story because as he describes in the episode, "there's beauty in the brokenness".To gain a little insight on who Rachel was, here are some highlights from her obituary:Rachel excelled in everything that she attempted. But it was dance that captured her heart. From the time...
2023-02-07
22 min
Two Kids and A Career
126: Do You Have A New Year's Resolution, Goal, Or Word For The Year?
We are officially kicking off Season 8 of Two Kids and A Career with Episode 126! Jill Devine recorded another solo episode to talk about how she doesn’t make New Year’s Resolutions, but she does pick a word to focus on for the year. Her word for 2023 is CONSISTENT:con·sist·ent/kənˈsist(ə)nt/adjectiveacting or done in the same way over time, especially so as to be fair or accurate."the parents are being consistent and firm in their reactions"unchanging in nature, standard...
2023-01-04
19 min
Two Kids and A Career
125: A Recap Of Season 7
It’s that time of year where things start to slow down and time off is a must. Jill Devine is ending 2022 with a recap of Season 7. Highlights from this episode include:*Links Jill mentioned in the episodeEpisode 44: Happy Hour and Coffee Date ConversationsEpisode 111: A Community Designed To Help The Sandwich GenerationEpisode 121: Having Tough Conversations With Your Aging ParentsEpisode 123: How To Have Age-Appropriate Conversations With Your Kids About Sex*The other podcast Jill produces and hosts: Normal Goes A Long WaySe...
2022-12-21
15 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
33: Faith-Filled Parenting For Normal People
In Episode 32: How Do You Parent Through A Faith Lens?, Jill Devine expressed her concern about parenting through a Faith lens and how you tackle certain topics with your child, while incorporating your Faith into the conversation.Jill asked Hannah Lang and Laura Fleetwood to be a part of this new series about Faith-Filled Parenting. Hannah is the Director of Children’s Ministry at Messiah St. Charles. Laura is Jill’s spiritual mentor and mom to two teenage daughters. Hannah will tackle the elementary age (birth-5th grade) and Laura Fleetwood will tackle the secondary age (6th-12th g...
2022-09-20
26 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
32: How Do You Parent Through A Faith Lens?
All of the episodes about the faith of the next generation made Jill Devine think more about parenting through a Faith lens and what does that look like? She’s going to bring some guests on the podcast to provide advice on how you tackle certain topics with your child, while incorporating your Faith into the conversation. Jill welcomes any advice you may have or if you have questions you would like Jill to ask her guests on a particular topic, email her: hello@jilldevine.com.Messiah Middle School Website: https://messiahstcharles.org/middle-school/Messiah Hi...
2022-09-06
08 min
Two Kids and A Career
117: How Being Real Gets You Noticed
This episode has been in the making for two years. Jill Devine and Meghan Layne were finally able to connect in this week’s episode and the conversation could have lasted a lot longer!Meghan is a southern girl (born and raised) but transplanted to St Louis because of her Midwest bred husband. After traveling the country for 8 years for her husband's baseball career, the Layne family decided to settle permanently in St Louis to raise their three kiddos. Meghan likes to say she’s a dentist by profession but a circus ringleader by choice. She practices dent...
2022-08-31
1h 04
Two Kids and A Career
113: It Is Absolutely Ok To Say No With Zero Guilt
Jill Devine received an email from Christi Flynn, a Life Coach out of Edmonds, Washington. Christi was introduced to Jill through the Messy Mommies, Meg Tortorello and Holly Murer. Christi heard Episode 58: Being A Messy Mommy Brings Togetherness and decided to email Jill: As a working mother with two young children, I struggled mightily to balance my family and my work. Often, I would wake up short of breath, already anxious about the coming day. I was constantly multi-tasking and not doing a good job at anything. I wanted to be the supportive and loving...
2022-07-06
46 min
Two Kids and A Career
106: Be An Advocate For Your Child
Do you know if your child’s school has clean drinking water? Julia Geskey is a clean water advocate with Environment Missouri, and she works to ensure there is safe, clean drinking water across the state. Right now, this means working to get the lead out of schools and childcare centers. While this is an often-overlooked issue, it’s so important to make sure our kids are not being exposed to this toxic chemical at the place they go to learn and play every day. Environment Missouri just released a "Get the Lead Out" toolkit for parents, teac...
2022-03-30
30 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
9: Jill Devine's Top 5 Takeaways
Typically at this time of the year, you will see lots of year-end lists and reflection posts. In this week’s episode, Jill Devine took some time to reflect on how the podcast has been going since it launched this past October. Normal Goes A Long Way Website: https://www.normalgoesalongway.com/ Normal Goes A Long Way Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/normalgoesalongway/ Normal Goes A Long Way Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Normal-Goes-A-Long-Way-110089491250735 Normal Goes A Long Way is brought to you by Messiah St. Charles: https://messiahstcharles.org/
2021-12-28
16 min
Two Kids and A Career
99: Reflecting On 2021 And Some Changes For 2022
It’s that time of year where you start to see year-end lists and you begin to reflect on the past year. It’s also the time of year when you start to think about what’s next and what you would like to accomplish in the year that lies ahead. Jill Devine took some time in this solo episode to chat about 2021 and things she has learned about herself and this podcast. One thing she is doing differently in 2022 is releasing new episodes bi-weekly instead of weekly. She explains the reason behind that decision in this week’s...
2021-12-15
18 min
Two Kids and A Career
97: Benefits And Challenges Of Raising Neurodiverse Kids
Joining Jill Devine this week on the podcast is Sivan Hong. Sivan authors and illustrates the best-selling children’s book series The Super Fun Day Books, including “Benny J. and the Horrible Halloween”, “George J. and the Miserable Monday” and “Emily D. and the Fearful First Day”. Her inspiring books focus on neurodiverse children, who overcome their challenges with perseverance and bravery. Sivan also serves as a Trustee on the Boards of the Westport Public Library, the Rita Allen Foundation and the ASPCA. When she’s not working, Sivan enjoys being a wife to her lovely husband and a mother to...
2021-12-01
37 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
6: A Thanksgiving Blessing
With Thanksgiving quickly approaching, Jill Devine reflected on the conversation she had with Pastor Jim Mueller in BONUS (4b): Jill Devine’s Questions For Pastor Jim Mueller. Pastor Jim talked about including everyone at the Thanksgiving table, including the kids. Take a listen to this bonus episode to hear Pastor Jim’s Thanksgiving thoughts and then you will hear a Thanksgiving Blessing read by Jill, written by Mary Fairchild. Normal Goes A Long Way Website: https://www.normalgoesalongway.com/ Normal Goes A Long Way Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/normalgoesalongway/ Normal Goes A Long W...
2021-11-23
05 min
Two Kids and A Career
95: Handling Sleep Issues In Babies And Toddlers
With both pregnancies, Jill Devine would hear the same thing (unsolicited) from people, get ready to never sleep again! It was the most common topic everyone had an opinion on. Surprisingly since starting this podcast, Jill has never had a sleep expert on, until now. Joining Jill this week is Nicole Johnson, a married mother of two wonderful boys, as well as the Lead Sleep Consultant and owner of The Baby Sleep Site® founded over 10 years ago. From Nicole: When my eldest son was a baby, he had a lot of sleep problems. S...
2021-11-10
40 min
Two Kids and A Career
94: How To Help Your Child Determine Their Purpose
When it came time for Jill Devine to think about life after high school, she didn’t feel as if she had a clear understanding of what her purpose was or what she was passionate about. If only Greg & Beth Langston were around back then! Greg & Beth are the founders of the College Flight Plan. Their focus is to empower students to master their self-discovery, allowing them to activate their life's purpose successfully. They guide teens to answer the following: What are my core values, and how do I use them? What are my...
2021-11-03
48 min
Two Kids and A Career
92: Parenting Through A Place Of Fear
How many times have you heard being the parent of a teen is terrifying and difficult at the same time? There is hope and help. Cameron (Dr. Cam) Caswell, PhD brings a wealth of information and experience to the table. She has a doctorate in developmental psychology, over 15 years coaching parents and mentoring teens, a certification in professional life coaching, and taught adolescent psychology at George Mason University. She’s also a mom of a teen too, so she not only talks the talk, she walks the walk! “Teens act out because they feel misunderstood. Teen...
2021-10-20
47 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
3: (Part 2) Adapting To A Brand New Career In Ministry
In Part 2 of Jill Devine’s faith journey, Laura Fleetwood learned more about Jill’s former career as a radio personality and Jill’s current career in ministry. Highlights from the episode include: *The celebrity Jill considers the best celebrity she’s ever met *Things Jill misses about radio *What ended her radio career *The other podcast Jill hosts, Two Kids and A Career *The job title she currently holds at her church *How her career in radio is very similar to her current career in minis...
2021-10-07
27 min
Two Kids and A Career
91: The Environmental Factors Affecting Adolescents
Joining Jill Devine this week for the second time on the podcast is Erica Komisar. She was Jill’s guest on Episode 37: You Have A Small Window To Make A Huge Difference In The Mental Health and Well Being Of Your Child: Through her research for the book Being There: Why Prioritizing Motherhood in the First Three Years Matters, Erica found at least 1 in 5 children have some form of mental illness. Mothers serve a critical biological function in a babies’ brain development. Since that conversation, Erica has written another book, Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Fall...
2021-10-06
43 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
2: (Part 1) The Faith Journey Of A Former Radio DJ
Laura Fleetwood and Jill Devine sat down to discuss Jill’s faith journey. Highlights from the episode include: *Jill’s childhood and how the church was a part of it *A fear Jill has about fully accepting Jesus *The discussion that took place at lunch with a Pastor and Jill’s grandparents *The placement of certain people at different times in Jill’s life *Preconceived ideas on life topics *Asking nontypical questions about faith The ladies will pick things back up in Part 2 of Jill’s...
2021-10-05
43 min
Normal Goes A Long Way
1: How It All Began
In the premiere episode of Normal Goes A Long Way, Jill Devine sits down with Laura Fleetwood and Ryan Pfendler. The role Laura and Ryan play in Jill’s life is one of spiritual mentorship. Jill has asked them to serve as the interviewers on this podcast as they have more knowledge when it comes to topics, events, and opportunities within the world of Christianity. Listen in as you get to know more about Laura and Ryan and how this podcast even came to fruition. Normal Goes A Long Way Website: https://www.normalgoesalongway.com/ No...
2021-10-01
39 min
Two Kids and A Career
90: Making Judgements Based On Our Perception
Cynthia Kirkpatrick was Jill Devine’s guest in Episode 81: How Being A Better Version Of Yourself Will Help Others. Cynthia connected Jill to Kathy Lambert: For more than 23 years, Kathy Lambert has worked to disrupt the cycle of poverty with a holistic family approach. Her journey began in 1997 after she read an article about Dress for Success New York, a nonprofit dedicated to helping women re-enter the workforce by providing interview clothing. Recognizing a similar need in her St. Louis community, Kathy launched Dress for Success Midwest to help women coming from difficult circumstances achieve ec...
2021-09-29
39 min
Two Kids and A Career
88: Self-Love Is A Personalized Journey
In Episode 77: Keeping Her Daughters Legacy Alive Through Acts Of Kindness, Genny Jessee joined Jill Devine to talk about the June Jessee Memorial Foundation. In addition, she talked about June’s short time on this earth, as well as Genny’s perspective as a mother to a medically complex child and a mother to two healthy children. Through the June Jessee Memorial Foundation, care packages are sent to families with children courageously facing medically complex conditions. Genny Jessee's team sent one of the care packages to Jill so Jill would understand how important these packages are...
2021-09-15
40 min
Two Kids and A Career
82: Tips For Creating Community With Other Women In Your Same Season
This week’s guest is Jerrica Dennison. Jerrica is a fellow podcaster and is the host of She Has a Name Too. Jill Devine met Jerrica through Jerrica’s brother, Alex. Alex is also a fellow podcaster and is the host of Broken Blubs. Alex invited Jill to be on his podcast and then he suggested Jill be on Jerrica’s podcast and then Jill thought Jerrica should be on Two Kids and A Career and that’s exactly what transpired. When Jill asked Jerrica what topic Jerrica felt most compelled to discuss, Jerrica said: I would...
2021-07-28
35 min
Two Kids and A Career
81: How Being A Better Version Of Yourself Will Help Others
Cynthia Siess Krikpatrick is the 2nd recipient of a Supermom Shoutout to end up being a guest on the podcast. The first was Genny Jesse and her Supermom Shoutout was featured in Episode 72: How Work-Life Balance Can Be Obtained with Cherylanne Skolnicki. Then, Genny joined Jill Devine on Episode 77: Keeping Her Daughters Legacy Alive Through Acts Of Kindness. Cynthia and Jill went to college together at Lindenwood University in St. Charles, Missouri. The two have continued to grow their friendship with one another, but lately they have really bonded over being working moms and wanting...
2021-07-21
49 min
Two Kids and A Career
80: The Car Mom Is Back
This is a milestone episode for the podcast! Episode 80! Jill Devine wanted to celebrate the milestone episode with someone who is also hitting lots of milestones and that’s Kelly Suntrup Stumpe, A.K.A. The Car Mom. Kelly joined Jill on Episode 48: A Local Mom's Desire To Help Other Moms Is Going Viral. You can listen to that episode to get a better understanding of what The Car Mom is all about, but if you need a refresh: The Car Mom is dedicated to empowering moms and families to make the most informed and co...
2021-07-14
30 min
Two Kids and A Career
79: How An Esthetician Approaches Her Clientele's Desire For Youth
Jennifer Warmann-Bloss joined Jill Devine on this week’s episode. Jennifer is a licensed Esthetician, CEO of Elemental Esthetics and Blogger and has been working on clients since 2001. Being educated in Boston at one of the top Esthetics Schools in the country, the Catherine Hinds Institute, sets her base education apart from the average esthetician in St Louis. She prides herself on maintaining her education ongoing and additionally keeping you, the client, educated as well on the latest innovations in anti-aging. Her approach to services is to truly create a customized experience for anyone who comes through he...
2021-07-07
37 min
Two Kids and A Career
78: Firework Safety Tips For Adults, Kids, And Pets
With 4th of July right around the corner, it doesn’t hurt to have a refresher course on safety tips when it comes to fireworks. Jill Devine enjoys fireworks from afar, but a firework incident from her childhood has left her less than confident when it comes to handling fireworks. Rob Cima is the VP of Missouri Pyrotechnics Association (MOpyro), a father of three and a huge proponent of fireworks safety. In addition to providing safety tips for adults, children and pets in this week’s episode, Rob also discussed an event coming up in September, Sky Wars...
2021-06-30
40 min
Two Kids and A Career
77: Keeping Her Daughters Legacy Alive Through Acts Of Kindness
This week’s guest received a Supermom Shoutout in Episode 72: How Work-Life Balance Can Be Obtained. Here’s what her nominator, Allison, said: Genny Jessee is a Supermom in more ways than one! As co-founder and executive director of the June Jessee Memorial Foundation, she passionately supports children with medically complex, neurological conditions and their families. She tirelessly continues to find ways to bring needed resources and financial assistance to these families and has created a supportive and understanding community to provide comfort on their journeys battling complicated diagnoses. Genny does this all in loving memory of her...
2021-06-23
49 min
Two Kids and A Career
76: STL Veg Girl Continues To Makes Waves In The Plant-Based World
Caryn Dugan, A.K.A. STL Veg Girl, is back for a repeat visit on the podcast. She joined Jill Devine on Episode 23: Tips On Immune Boosting Foods and Cancer Prevention and in that episode, Caryn discussed losing her Dad to cancer in 2008 and 10 weeks after his passing, she was diagnosed with cancer. She decided to take matters into her own hands and started researching immune boosting diets and cancer prevention tips. All searches led to a plant-based diet. Fast forward, those searches lead to Caryn opening the Nation’s first ever Center for Plant-Based Living! Since th...
2021-06-16
35 min
Two Kids and A Career
75: His Words On Recovering From Substance Abuse And Co-Dependency
Sean Rademeyer and Jill Devine have been friends since high school. Although they were more of acquaintances and knew of one another through mutual friends. Like most people, Sean and Jill stayed up to date with one another through social media. Jill knew Sean struggled with substance abuse, but she didn’t know the extent of the struggle. Sean heard Episode 45: A Widow Talks About Her Husband's Mental Illness and it struck a chord because he was friends with Corey Schuster, the husband discussed in the episode. Sean reached out to Jill and said he was ready to...
2021-06-09
47 min
Two Kids and A Career
74: Advice On Readjusting To "Normal Life" Post COVID
For the first time on the podcast, this week’s guest is making her return for the third time! Michelle Gauthier (formally Michelle Lynchard) was on Episode 24: A Mom’s Guide To A Calm Holiday Season and Episode 25: Tips On How To Bring More Calm To Your Life During A Pandemic. Jill Devine invited Michelle to come on for a third time to discuss a recent email Michelle sent to her subscribers. Here’s that email: Jill, Last week, my 13-year-old made a snide comment at dinner about my cooking. He looked over at me...
2021-06-02
37 min
Two Kids and A Career
73: The Preconceived Idea Of Cannabis
This week’s episode may be considered risqué to some. Jill Devine’s hope is to use this platform to talk about the positive uses of medical marijuana and also provide education to those who would like to learn more about medical marijuana. Please understand this episode is intended to be an educational piece. Always seek the advice of a physician with any questions regarding a medical condition. Jill invited Dr. Jamila Owens-Todd’s on the podcast to discuss medical marijuana. Dr. Jamila Owens-Todd’s career path started with studying the sciences at the University of Missouri-Saint Louis. Ja...
2021-05-26
49 min
Two Kids and A Career
72: How Work-Life Balance Can Be Obtained
Cherylanne Skolnicki is an authority on wellbeing, work-life balance, and human potential. Cherylanne grew up wanting to be a Fortune 500 CEO and started her career at Procter & Gamble where she worked for 15 years before founding The Brilliant Balance Company. Brilliant Balance helps professionals get the most out of work and life through compelling content, comprehensive coaching programs, and a tightly knit community. As the founder and CEO, Cherylanne is the creative engine for the company; she is also a popular speaker, an advisor to corporate leaders, and a trusted coach to a roster of private clients. Cherylanne hosts the...
2021-05-19
46 min
Two Kids and A Career
71: Thankful, Grateful, Blessed
Welcome to the launch of Season 6! Jill Devine wanted this week’s guest to be part of the launch of Season 6 because behind the scenes, Lisa Webb approached Jill about being a part of the Supermom Shoutout. Lisa is the Owner & Creator of Addy’s Way! She started her jewelry business in 2010 while living in Houston, Texas. Through the years, and two moves, Addy's Way has continued to grow and change to stay with the current trends. In 2020, they added a new channel to the AW brand, AW Apparel. Lisa asked Jill if she could customize a t-shir...
2021-05-12
35 min
Two Kids and A Career
70: It's A Gift To Have Perfectly Imperfect Children
This week’s episode is the last episode of Season 5! Mark your calendars, Season 6 will launch on Wednesday, May 12th. Joining Jill Devine on the final episode of Season 5, the authors of The Cow Cocoon, Maria Price and Rachel Nolen: Our daughters met in seventh grade which led to a cherished friendship. They brought us together. Yet, it was our values, devotion to family and a flair for fun that has created our amazing friendship. While reminiscing on funny anecdotes about our children, Maria mentioned the Cow Cocoon. She was on a trip with her childr...
2021-04-14
41 min
Two Kids and A Career
69: How Do You Know I Love You?
Self-care is the word Jill Devine chose for 2021. She’s still trying to figure out how self-care looks for her but talking to people like Dr. Amy Horn helps with defining what and how self-care can look. Dr. Amy Horn is a Family Wellness Chiropractor at her practice, Abundant Health STL, in Arnold, MO. Her goal is help people abundantly live and not be numb. She’s a member of SLiiM (St. Louis Institute of Integrative Medicine), which is the best resource for top functional medicine in STL. Amy’s ultimate dream/goal is to open a wellne...
2021-04-07
44 min
Two Kids and A Career
68: Taking Care Of Your Postpartum Mind And Body
Empowering and connecting women are the goals of this week’s guest. Jamie Kocher stumbled across Jill Devine’s podcast through Episode 59: The Overwhelming Support From Other Mamas and Small Business Owners with Kaci Bruek. Jamie is friends with Kaci and once Jaime heard Episode 59, she started following and supporting Jill on social media. Jamie is a Doctor of Physical Therapy specializing in pelvic health and pregnancy/postpartum fitness. She has two girls (almost 9 and 6 years old), plus 3 angel babies. Jamie’s brand, Moms Made Strong, exists to give women safe and effective workouts during and after pregna...
2021-03-31
41 min
Two Kids and A Career
67: Anger Fueled Her Passion To Get Children Adopted
In Part One, Marcy Bursac talked to Jill Devine about foster care adoption. Most people don’t know that foster care adoption is the fastest and most affordable way to adopt. Through the adoption experience of her own kiddos, Marcy realized there were too many unanswered questions and holes in the system, so she published “The Forgotten Adoption Option: A Self-Reflection and How-To Guide for Pursuing Foster Care Adoption”. In Part Two of the discussion, Jill learned a little more about Marcy’s children and their backstory. At the end of the conversation, Jill asked Marcy for her final...
2021-03-24
33 min
Two Kids and A Career
67: Breaking Down Your Adoption Options
Jill Devine has been wanting to discuss adoption on an episode of Two Kids and A Career, but she wanted to discuss the topic with an expert. Through a mutual friend, Jill was introduced to Marcy Bursac. Marcy resides in St. Louis, Missouri with her husband and two brave children. Her heart for adoption comes from participating in service projects with orphans and her grandfather-in-law being orphaned in St. Louis at age seven but never being adopted. Adoption was something Marcy and her husband talked about as their Plan A before they even got married. This led the couple to a...
2021-03-24
31 min
Two Kids and A Career
66: Two Hometown Gals Who Have A Love For Their City And Their New Careers
As explained in previous episodes, Jill Devine is best known for her previous career. She spent over 20 years in radio in the St. Louis market. Born and raised in the St. Louis area, being able to start her career and end her career in her hometown is a big deal. The same scenario is true for this week’s guest, Karen Kelly. Karen and Jill worked together, briefly. Jill wanted Karen to be on the podcast when they both worked in radio together because Karen’s personal life had numerous life lessons that could be shared with othe...
2021-03-10
40 min
Two Kids and A Career
65: This Is A Game-Changer For Parents In Need Of Child Care
Women supporting women. Small business love. Creating community. These are just a few of the things that have been happening in the latest season of Two Kids and A Career. In Episode 53: Organization Should Be An Official Love Language, Kelly Johnson joined Jill Devine to talk about Kelly’s shift from the corporate world to entrepreneurship, women supporting women, adapting her business to meet safety protocols during a pandemic, having a 2-year-old, and so much more. Kelly’s business, Organized Interiors LLC, offers home organization, move management, home styling and personal assistant services. Kelly introduced Morga...
2021-03-03
33 min
Two Kids and A Career
64: A Widower's Advice On Living Life To The Fullest
Through a mutual friend, Jill Devine was introduced to Brandon Janous. Brandon lost his wife, Rachel, to breast cancer on March 1st, 2020. With the one-year anniversary of her death approaching, Jill invited Brandon on the podcast to share Rachel's story because as he describes in the episode, "there's beauty in the brokenness". To gain a little insight on who Rachel was, here's some information from her obituary: Rachel excelled in everything that she attempted. But it was dance that captured her heart. From the time that she could walk to the time that she could wa...
2021-02-24
48 min
Two Kids and A Career
63: Living Life With Two Sets Of Twins Under The Age Of Five
Does the thought of traveling with 4 kids, all under the age of five years old, terrify you? It terrifies Jill Devine. She was supposed to take her girls to see her best friend who lives about 6 hours away, but the trip didn’t happen due to COVID. Jill was sweating leading up to the trip wondering how she was going to travel solo with a 4 and 2-year-old. Marissa and Adam Goldstein aren’t terrified. In fact, they embrace it. Marissa and Adam have two sets of twins under the age of 5: Raya, Efi, Noa, and Eyva. Marissa and...
2021-02-17
42 min
Two Kids and A Career
62: Ensuring Every Child Thrives Despite Their Family's Income
Jill Devine has always been the perfect patient at the eye doctor, until now. She has joined the “readers” club, but this episode isn’t about Jill’s lack of being a gold-star student anymore. In all seriousness, there is a major problem with children from low-income families not being able to thrive because of vision ailments. Executive Director at Eye Thrive, Kate McKearn holds a Master's Degree in Teaching and has more than 12 years of experience leading inner-city classrooms in Chicago, Decatur (Illinois), and Saint Louis. Recognized for her ability to empower her students with the skills an...
2021-02-10
39 min
Two Kids and A Career
61: Preserving Your Memories, Literally
During her childhood, Teresa Rinne had discovered dozens of dried flowers tucked away in the family Bible, while visiting her great-grandmother in Kentucky. As the older woman helped return the flowers to their home, she explained that each dried flower had a special memory attached to it. When she passed, she took those memories with her. Through trial and error, Teresa developed an at-home process for preserving fresh flowers—and their memories. Teresa is the company founder and CEO of Floral Preservation Co. Her company aims to provide a quick and easy process to preserve flowers. The pat...
2021-02-03
34 min
Two Kids and A Career
60: Be Responsible When You Show Up In The Digital Space
Mich Hancock is the dynamic CEO of 100th Monkey, a company focused on creating quality human connections and interactions, leads and conversions for B2B and B2C clients through social media. Mich is also the Co-Founder of TEDxStLouis, an innovative and thought-provoking organization that brings TED Talk experiences to St. Louis. She interviews TEDx speakers and St. Louis movers and shakers on her popular MichMash Podcast. Mich also works with organizations and individuals to help them “TED-ify” their presentations. Jill Devine wanted to talk to Mich about social media on a deeper level beca...
2021-01-27
34 min
Two Kids and A Career
59: The Overwhelming Support From Other Mamas and Small Business Owners
In Season 4, Jill Devine had many conversations with women she met through social media. Most of the women are entrepreneurs who love to support and promote other female entrepreneurs and this week’s guest joins that community. Jill was introduced to Kaci Brueck through Instagram. Kaci and her husband, Ryan, are the proud founders and owners of Brueck Creative. They create Learn and Play Placemats, along with custom photo collages. In Episode 57: What The Last Year Has Taught Me, Jill talked about her love for supporting small businesses. When Black Friday, Small Business Saturday, and Cy...
2021-01-13
50 min
Two Kids and A Career
58: Being A Messy Mommy Brings Togetherness
Happy New Year and welcome to Season 5 of the podcast! In thinking of how she wanted to begin Season 5, it was a no brainer for Jill Devine. She invited Meg Tortorello and Holly Murer, AKA “The Messy Mommies in the City”, to kick off the latest season. Holly and Meg started supporting Jill during Season 2 when they heard Episode 20: Cat & Nat, The Hilarious Ladies Behind #MOMTRUTHS. The Messy Mommies in the City are a group of longtime friends and family that love bringing girlfriends together to laugh, share, and find the joy in the messiness of lif...
2021-01-06
37 min
Two Kids and A Career
57: What The Last Year Has Taught Me
This week’s episode is the last episode of Season 4. With Christmas and the New Year right around the corner, like many people, Jill Devine decided it would be a good time to take a two-week break. Season 5 will launch on Wednesday January 6, 2021. This episode is dedicated to two subject matters. The first - a recent social media post Jill wrote about the last year and the things she experienced. The second – supporting small businesses. If you missed the social media post, here it is: On this date, 1 year ago (December 5, 2019), I was not...
2020-12-16
23 min
Two Kids and A Career
56: She Keeps The Serious Conversations, Like Binge Eating, Off Social Media
Everyone should have a friend like Sarah Rentfro in their life. The best way to describe Sarah is to point to a description based on her Enneagram Type, which is a 9. From Truity: Peacemakers are social chameleons who can adapt to the group dynamic easily and help others get along. They’re soft-spoken yet loyal and fun to be around, intuitively knowing how to include and engage everyone in conversation. Peacemakers are cooperative and always willing to let someone join the circle and state their own opinions. Soft-spoken yet firm in their personal stances, they make an ef...
2020-12-09
53 min
Two Kids and A Career
55: Divorces Are On The Rise Due To The Pandemic
Sometimes tough and uncomfortable conversations will be had on the podcast. The New York post released an article in September of 2020 about the rise of divorces due to the pandemic: Divorce rates have spiked in the U.S. during the coronavirus pandemic as couples have been stuck at home for months. The combination of stress, unemployment, financial strain, death of loved ones, illness, homeschooling children, mental illnesses, and more has put a significant strain on relationships. In fact, 20 percent of couples who sought divorce who were married within the past five...
2020-12-02
33 min
Two Kids and A Career
54: Don't Let An Autism Diagnosis Swallow You Whole
For the second time in Season 4, a childhood friend of Jill Devine’s was a part of Two Kids and A Career. The first childhood friend was Gina Schuster. In Episode 45, Gina talked about losing her husband to suicide. Mackenzie Siders, Gina, and Jill are all childhood friends and when Mackenzie heard Gina’s episode, it prompted her to email Jill. Mackenzie has a seven-year-old son, Charlie, who suffers from autism. April is Autism Awareness Month and she asked Jill if she could come on the podcast in April to talk about autism. Jill said no because she...
2020-11-25
44 min
Two Kids and A Career
53: Organization Should Be An Official Love Language
The theme of Season 4, “Happy Hour and Coffee Date Conversations”, continues in this week’s episode with Kelly Johnson. Kelly found Jill Devine’s podcast, Two Kids and A Career, when she heard Episode 46 with Emily Martinez. Kelly decided she wanted to introduce herself to Jill through an email: Hi Jill, I wanted to share a little bit about me and my organizing business. I grew up in Ballwin, attended Parkway West high school, then went to college at Missouri State University in Springfield, MO and moved back to the St. Louis area right aft...
2020-11-18
30 min
Two Kids and A Career
52: Craving Community With Like-Minded Women
Recently, Jill Devine received an email from Jen Singleton about a potential podcast guest. Jen is a Partner at Socially Inspired and was a guest in Season 1, Episode 16: Three Female Entrepreneurs Share Their Thoughts About Being A Working Mom Jen is also part of the HeyMama community, which is a community for working moms. They connect mothers who are growing careers and families. Another member of the HeyMama community sent out an email to the group in search of being a guest on a podcast and this was the guest Jen referred to Jill. Here’s...
2020-11-04
33 min
Two Kids and A Career
51: A Bipartisan Discussion About The Upcoming Election
She’s going there. Yes, Jill Devine is talking about politics on an entire episode. In previous episodes, Jill has stated she’s not a political person. She claims to be ignorant on a lot of political items because she hasn’t taken the time to educate herself. Having children has made Jill want to dive into learning more about the views of each political party because she is concerned for her daughters’ future locally and nationally. Plus, she wants to be able to have discussions about politics with her daughters as they get older, shall they have questions. In...
2020-10-28
39 min
Two Kids and A Career
50: Making The Pivot From The Corporate World To Entrepreneurship
The theme of Season 4 (happy hour and coffee date conversations) continued with this week’s guest, Sarah Bernard. After she had her three children, Sarah wanted more flexibility in her career and made the decision to leave her corporate job and venture into entrepreneurship. Sarah is now a Luxury Home Realtor & Second Home Specialist. Jill Devine and Sarah discussed the pivot she made from the corporate world to being your own boss. Amid a pandemic, Sarah has been able to connect people to Innsbrook Resort, located in Innsbrook, Missouri, a gated resort community just 1 hour from Gateway Ar...
2020-10-21
35 min
Two Kids and A Career
49: Moms, You Need To Find A Little Pocket Of Normal In Your Day
Jen Cowan, A.K.A. And Hattie Makes Three, joined Jill Devine this week on the podcast. This was technically the second conversation Jill had with Jen. Jill explained what happened to the missing audio in the episode. If you aren’t familiar with Jen, she loves to share things her family loves and places they go. Her goal is to help you create memories for your family. She is always searching for how she can make your life easier; is there a tip she can provide, a trick, or something you can buy that might make li...
2020-10-14
41 min
Two Kids and A Career
48: A Local Mom's Desire To Help Other Moms Is Going Viral
Recently, Jill Devine received a direct message in her Instagram account (@jilldevine) from Julie: Hey Jill! I’m new to your podcast and binge listening to them. Love them!! I wanted to put a bug in your ear about a local mom that is the new rage on Instagram. Her handle is @the_car_mom. She and her family are in car sales. She does reviews on vehicles for moms to let you know what car seats fit good in vehicles, the luggage room and tells you her personal opinion about the bells & whistles of the vehicles. Sh...
2020-10-07
35 min
Two Kids and A Career
47: Dealing With Depression and Anxiety, Having Jesus In Your Life, and Seeking The Still
In previous episodes, Jill Devine has talked about how she’s growing her faith. She started attending Messiah Lutheran (located in a suburb outside of St. Louis, Missouri) when she was pregnant with her oldest daughter. One Sunday morning at church, Jill noticed a woman singing on stage. The woman had a tattoo on her wrist, and it caught Jill’s eye because Jill had been thinking about getting a tattoo on her wrist as well, but for some reason Jill kept thinking the visible tattoo would be frowned upon by Christians. Fast forward, randomly, the woman on s...
2020-09-30
39 min
Two Kids and A Career
46: She's A Digital Freelance Entrepreneur With Suggestions On How To Create Successful Digital Content
Jill Devine’s guest this week is Emily Martinez, A.K.A. Emmy Lou Styles. In today’s world, social media and digital content is more important than ever to get your business and brand noticed. It’s important to make sure your content is delivering useful information, the correct message about your business and brand, and it connects with your audience. Emily does a great job with all those areas in her digital space. A little more about Emily - from her blog, Emmy Lou Styles: Welcome to Emmy Lou Styles! I’m Emily, a work fr...
2020-09-23
46 min
Two Kids and A Career
45: A Widow Talks About Her Husband's Mental Illness
September is National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month. Now more than ever, the discussion surrounding suicide prevention and mental illness must be a priority. From NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness): September is National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month—a time to share resources and stories in an effort to shed light on this highly taboo and stigmatized topic. We use this month to reach out to those affected by suicide, raise awareness and connect individuals with suicidal ideation to treatment services. It is also important to ensure that individuals, friends and families have access to the reso...
2020-09-16
55 min
Two Kids and A Career
44: Happy Hour and Coffee Date Conversations
It’s here, the launch of Season 4! Jill Devine took some time over the last couple of weeks to reflect on Seasons 1, 2, & 3 and think about what she loved and what she felt was missing from those Seasons. That reflection led to some changes for Season 4. Jill will still have guests and experts on, but she’s going to include more “happy hour and/or coffee date conversations” … you know, the types of conversations where you have no idea what you’re going to talk about, but you know something good will come out of it? Adding these...
2020-09-09
50 min
Two Kids and A Career
43: What A Crazy Few Months It Has Been
This week’s episode is the last episode of Season 3. Jill Devine realized she hadn’t really addressed what happened to her career. She had discussed it on social media and she even discussed it with several of her guests in Season 3, but she never talked about it on her own in an episode. Jill is best known as an on-air radio personality. She spent over 20 years in radio in the St. Louis market and on December 5, 2019, her former employer chose not to renew her contract, which ended her employment. Jill opened up about the emotional toll it t...
2020-08-19
10 min
Two Kids and A Career
42: Don't Always Judge An Email By Its Content
Over a year ago, Jill Devine received an email from Jenita “Jay” Hladyshewsky asking to be a guest on the podcast. Jay is the Owner/Photographer of Bellissimo Studio. As described on her website: As St. Louis Area's Premier Boudoir and Intimate Glamour Studio, we create meaningful experiences of self-love and empowerment through elegant intimate glamour and boudoir photography. Celebrate the beautiful woman you have become through a day of pampering, acceptance and love. Do It For You Because You Are Fine Art! In all honesty, Jill wasn’t too sure about having Jay on becaus...
2020-08-12
34 min
Two Kids and A Career
41: Ways To Get Kids Involved In The Kitchen To Help Open Their Mind To Trying New Foods
Throughout Season 3, Jill Devine has talked to several guests about food: the good, the bad, and the ugly. One consistent theme, Jill has concerns about her oldest daughter, Lu, and her pickiness with food. Jill took to her social media accounts to ask for help with Lu. Carmen Berry showed up in Jill’s inbox with an amazing email. Here are some highlights: My name is Carmen and I saw your request for recipes to get kids involved in the kitchen! I am a registered dietitian, a mom to an 8-month old (and an aunt to...
2020-08-05
31 min
Two Kids and A Career
39: Right Now Strengthening Your Immune System Is More Important Than Ever
"I want my children to live their best & healthiest lives full of love, laughter, & good food!" – Anya Corson Amid the pandemic, we are learning how important it is to fuel our bodies with the best foods available to strengthen our immune system. America has become complacent when it comes to food and we want what’s quick and easy, but that is backfiring with the number of health issues Americans are facing, including obesity. Jill Devine has been doing research on foods that help heal the body and support a healthy immune system. She continues to a...
2020-07-22
30 min
Two Kids and A Career
36: A Frontline Care Provider Discusses How We Can Acknowledge the Extraordinary Work of Nurses
COVID-19 continues to dominate the news and continues to present challenges. Jill Devine wanted to get a medical professional on to discuss this very challenging virus. Cindy Lefton joined Jill this week to provide a nurses’ perspective. Cindy has many accolades: she is a frontline care provider ER nurse in St. Louis, she is the pro bono Director of Research for The DAISY Foundation, and she is also the Vice President of Organizational Consulting at Psychological Associates, a St. Louis consulting company that applies behavioral science to business performance. In 2010, Cindy began her partnership with Th...
2020-07-01
27 min
Two Kids and A Career
35: Strategies Small Business Owners Should Consider During The Pandemic
Even though stay at home orders have been lifted and cities are opening up again, it will take time for small businesses to recover from the lost revenue due to the pandemic. Jill Devine wanted to get an expert on to discuss the new tax guidelines, available loans, and other relief efforts available to business owners. Nicole Thousand is a CPA and the Founding Partner of Thousand CPA Services. Nicole tries to make accounting and number talk as easy as possible because she knows it can be confusing. Side note – she’s fun, fashionable, and likes to drin...
2020-06-24
21 min
Two Kids and A Career
34: There's No Room For Racial Division In Christianity
Jill Devine has talked about her faith a few times in previous episodes, but not in depth. She has been growing her faith and learning more about Christ but has a lot to learn. She recently learned of a new podcast, Table Forty, which focuses on organic conversations about Jesus and life. It’s hosted by former St. Louis Cardinal Matt Holliday and his wife, Leslee Holliday. Jill reached out to Leslee to see if she would be a guest on the podcast and discuss her faith and how we turn to Christ on an everyday basis and even mo...
2020-06-17
37 min
Two Kids and A Career
33: She's A White Woman With A Latino Son and A Black Son
The reason Jill Devine was able to secure an interview with Dr. Kira Hudson Banks was because of this week’s guest, Katie Mohr. Katie’s sons went to school with Dr. Banks’s sons, which is how Katie and Dr. Banks know one another. Jill and Katie use to work together, which is how they know one another. So, Katie was able to put Jill and Dr. Banks in touch with one another to record an episode on having a conversation with your children about race and racism. Now that all the connections have been explained, let’s move on...
2020-06-10
44 min
Two Kids and A Career
32: Tips On How To Feel Comfortable and Confident Talking To Your Kids About Race and Racism
The latest murder of another black man, George Floyd, due to police brutality has caused millions of people to finally start educating their selves about race and racism and having conversations with one another. Jill Devine is one of the millions. Jill reached out to Dr. Kira Hudson Banks. Dr. Banks has been described “as making the complex and controversial topic of race accessible and intergroup interactions more understandable”. Jill explained she was nervous and scared about having the conversation of race and racism with Dr. Banks, so she would sit back and listen to Dr. Banks. That...
2020-06-10
38 min
Two Kids and A Career
30: Women Face the Cultural Message "Thin Is Better" Every Day
Shannon Buescher is an intuitive eating & health at every size registered dietitian. She’s not your “average” dietitian. She helps you look at how you are prioritizing food and yourself in your life. She encourages changing the language you use with food and yourself to be kinder, more loving and self-honoring. In Part One, Shannon talked to Jill Devine about “diet culture” and why so many women are failing because they aren’t intuitive eaters. A diet follows rules and people like to break rules. Diet culture also brings shame, so the mental side of dieting is damaging.
2020-05-27
30 min
Two Kids and A Career
29: Even In Your Darkest Moments, You Have To Find The Light
Jill Devine saw an article featuring St. Louis baker, Sarita Gelner. Sarita is an innovative baker, TV Chef & Lifestyle Expert. She’s also a stay-at-home mom. Sarita was on “The Great American Baking Show” and since appearing on “The Great American Baking Show”, Sarita has been on “The Tamron Hall Show” and is a regular on KSDK (NBC affiliate in St. Louis) and KTVI (FOX affiliate in St. Louis). Jill was honored when Sarita agreed to be a guest on the podcast. Jill loves to bake, so she thought the conversation would be about Sarita’s experience on “The Great Am...
2020-05-20
32 min
Two Kids and A Career
27: A Best-Selling Author Teaches Us How To Be Brave
Bravery. Courage. Self Confidence. Love Yourself. Those words are part of Judi Holler’s daily vocabulary and she wants us to make them part of our daily vocabulary. Judi is a motivational speaker, a best-selling author, a podcast host, a 90’s hip-hop expert, and so much more. On this week’s episode, Jill Devine and Judi dove deep into Judi’s book, Fear Is My Homeboy. Jill loved reading this book and the message it delivers to its readers. Judi suggests participating in “fear experiments” because “if you don’t have the courage to get it wrong, you wi...
2020-05-06
31 min
Two Kids and A Career
25: Tips On How To Bring More Calm To Your Life During A Pandemic
Michelle Lynchard was Jill Devine’s final guest on Season 2 and Jill knew Michelle would be the perfect person to kick off Season 3 because everyone could use a little (actually, a lot) of calm in their lives right now. Michelle specializes in helping overwhelmed, busy moms bring more calm to their lives and with the added stress everyone is facing with the quarantine, more mindful practices need to be done to help with overwhelmed feelings. This episode served as a therapy session for Jill, as Michelle talked through some of the things that were making Ji...
2020-04-22
30 min
Two Kids and A Career
24: A Mom's Guide To A Calm Holiday Season
Michelle Lynchard sent an email to Jill Devine, proposing being a guest on the podcast. Here’s some of that email: I recently discovered your podcast and I am officially your new fan. :) I especially loved your episode with Allie Corey and Dana Dean (episode 19). I love the way you spread the message of “we’re all in this together” instead of “let’s judge other Moms.” I am a Life Coach here in St. Louis. I specialize in helping overwhelmed, busy Moms bring more calm to their lives. Would you be interested in...
2020-04-09
28 min
Two Kids and A Career
22: This Mom, Along With So Many Other Moms, Needs To Cut Herself Some Slack
The biggest compliment Jill Devine can receive about this podcast is hearing about women talking to other women about how much they love this podcast and how much they can relate to it. This week’s guest is one of those women. Arlene Browne is friends with Rachel Sauter (a guest in Season 1, Episode 8). Rachel told Jill how much Arlene loved the podcast and she would be a perfect guest to have on. She explained that Arlene is a business owner (Robust Wine Bar), a mom to two kiddos, and so much more. This episode served...
2020-04-09
29 min
Two Kids and A Career
20: Cat & Nat, The Hilarious Ladies Behind #MOMTRUTHS
Get ready to laugh (and maybe pee your pants a little bit) during this week’s episode of Two Kids and A Career, as Cat & Nat are Jill Devine's guests. Jill loves their mission “… to bring laughter and a sense of community to women and moms.” Cat & Nat know a thing or two about motherhood; between the two of them, they have seven kids. They’ve experienced the loneliness of motherhood and unrealistic portrayals of motherhood, so they decided to do something about it … insert #MOMTRUTHS here. #MOMTRUTHS bring humor to topics that some moms are afraid to talk about and...
2020-04-03
17 min
Two Kids and A Career
19: How Food Can Play A Powerful Role In Bringing Your Family Together
“Have a meal with your family.” A simple, but very important statement made by Chef Liz of Tenacious Eats. On this week’s episode, Chef Liz gave Jill Devine some great advice on getting Jill’s girls interested in all types of food and the importance of cooking with them. Chef Liz and Jill also talked about the mom guilt Chef Liz felt while she was a restaurant chef and having to work nights. So, she figured out how to make a living still cooking, but on her own terms. Oh, and you would think a...
2020-04-03
28 min
Two Kids and A Career
17: If You've Ever Lost A Pet, You Understand The Feelings Of Hurt
“Such short little lives our pets have to spend with us, and they spend most of it waiting for us to come home each day. It is amazing how much love and laughter they bring into our lives and even how much closer we become with each other because of them.” John Grogan, American Author Full disclosure, if you aren’t an animal lover or don’t understand how a pet can be considered part of your family, this episode isn’t for you. The final episode of Season 1 is dedicated to Brian and Jill Devine’s fi...
2020-04-01
08 min
Two Kids and A Career
12: What It's Like Raising A Child When You Have Money vs When You Don't
Imagine this - Christmas is right around the corner and you can’t afford to buy your child one gift. You don’t want to disappoint them, so you find something in your house and try to take it back to a store that doesn’t even carry the item you are trying to take back all because you want your child to have a gift under the Christmas tree on Christmas Day. That was a hard reality for Dave Glover, host of the Dave Glover Show, and he talked to Jill Devine about his financial hardships and the...
2020-04-01
27 min
Two Kids and A Career
9: Now That I Have Children, Am I Really An Animal Lover?
Jill Devine called upon her animal expert friend, Jamie Case, to help sort out some emotions. Jamie is the Executive Director at Gateway Pet Guardians and she’s no stranger to this podcast, as she joined Jill in Episode 4. Jill has been having some conflicting feelings about her love for animals, especially her English Bulldog, Apple, now that she has children. Before Jill’s daughters were born, Apple was number one. She ruled the roost and could do no wrong. When Jill was pregnant with her first daughter, she was often told, “just wait until your daughter is born; t...
2020-03-12
17 min
Two Kids and A Career
8: The Future of Social Media With The Next Generation Of Girls
In Part Two of Episode 8, Jill Devine and Rachel Sauter spent most of the conversation discussing the future of social media and what it will look like concerning their daughters. Both Jill and Rachel agree social media is a necessary evil. It can be used as a source of good and it’s necessary for both women’s businesses. However, it can be harmful if you let it. Both ladies agree you need to unfollow or unfriend something/someone that doesn’t make you feel good and it’s completely ok to click that unfollow or unfriend button. The discuss...
2020-03-12
18 min
Two Kids and A Career
8: A Local Business Owner Is Empowering and Creating Experiences For Women
Who knew a decision to step inside a local business could change one’s mindset, while creating a friendship at the same time?!?!? Jill Devine has been open about not being a huge fan of boutiques because of the stigma attached to them. Boutiques are often categorized as overpriced and the merchandise doesn’t typically cater to women of all sizes. Jill stumbled across a boutique, Leopard, in her hometown of St. Louis, Missouri and decided to check it out despite her feelings. She ended up meeting the owner, Rachel Sauter, and that meeting changed Jill’s...
2020-03-12
19 min
Two Kids and A Career
7: Why Would I Think A Woman Without Kids Couldn't Console Me?
When Jill Devine was on maternity leave with her youngest daughter, she had a text exchange with one of her "non-mom" friends, Rachel Zimmerman. The night before their exchange, Jill experienced a weak moment with the baby (one of many) and she told Rachel about it. Rachel's response wasn't what Jill was expecting and Jill wasn't sure why she didn't expect that kind of response. Rachel and Jill discuss the text exchange and Jill’s unexpected thoughts in this week’s episode, along with Rachel’s thoughts on motherhood. Two Kids and A Career Website: https://w...
2020-03-06
18 min
Two Kids and A Career
3: Hoda Kotb Would Make A Great Best Friend
About three years ago, Jill Devine started paying a little more attention to Hoda Kotb. Hoda is a co-anchor on NBC’s TODAY show. When Jill’s oldest daughter was six months month old, Hoda announced she adopted a baby girl, Haley Joy. Jill instantly related to the love Hoda had for her first-born and immediately felt a connection with Hoda. Jill felt like she was experiencing all the same “firsts” along side Hoda. Fast forward to Jill having her second daughter and Hoda adopting her second daughter, Hope Catherine, around the same time! Hoda said she wan...
2020-02-12
11 min
Two Kids and A Career
1: The Isolated Feelings Of Motherhood
Welcome to the first episode of the Two Kids and A Career Podcast with Jill Devine! This podcast came to fruition when Jill was on maternity leave with her oldest daughter. She was experiencing a number of emotions and feelings she wasn't prepared for and she wondered why she wasn't prepared. She had read all the books on preparing for a baby, talked to her family and friends about what to expect as a new mother, but she couldn't figure out why she felt so unprepared as a new mother. In the "launch" episode, Jill expla...
2020-01-31
08 min