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Joachim Groeger
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Learn, Make, Learn
Off-the-Cuff Smörgåsbord
E & J return from a spring hiatus to discuss a range of topics, from WWDC 2025 to the Era of the Business Idiot, and more.WATCHES & WONDERS – 04:09Don DeLillo: CosmopolisIWC Presents A Plethora Of New Ingenieur WatchesHow The Pursuit Of Status Shapes Our AestheticsThe Nomos Club Sport Neomatik WorldtimerNOMOS Lounge, New York CityTAG Heuer Formula 1 - They got it wrong!SLATE AUTO – 22:52Slate Auto Reveal EventCustomer service satisfaction of EV owners lower than ICE vehiclesKia, Build This...
2025-06-23
1h 23
Learn, Make, Learn
Off-the-Cuff: AI Nonsense & More!
We return from hibernation to talk AI nonsense, critique the review industrial complex, promote a return to RSS, and share a raft of recommendations!JOACHIM ON AI NONSENSE – 01:52Previous Discussion of Humane AI (starts at 18:34)Humane Set to Brick $700 ‘AI Pins’I outsourced my memory to an AI pin and all I got was fanfictionBen Thompson: DeepSeek FAQPrevious Discussion on LLMs & Constraints (starts at 02:33)“Low-Resource” Text ClassificationERNEST ON THE REVIEW INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX – 09:41Motor Trend: 2021 MINI Cooper SEAmerica’s Commute to Work Is Get...
2025-03-20
43 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Caveat Emptor?
Ernest’s experience with a boundary-breaking headphone sparks a discussion on caveat emptor, or buyer beware, and just how much risk we, as product creators, should expect buyers to bear.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:15MKBHD, Panels & PricingWTF Happened in 2024?!I Love You, Man: The Male Friendship RecessionWhy Are Boys and Men in Trouble?CAVEAT EMPTOR? – 06:36Caveat emptorAn ode to open-back headphones—and why I’d never go (closed-)backWhat’s the difference between dynamic and planar magnetic drivers?Audio46 HeadphonesSennheiser HD800S: Revi...
2024-12-31
1h 08
Learn, Make, Learn
MKBHD, Panels & Pricing
A conversation triggered by MKBHD’s Panels app gets really interesting when we dig into pricing & lessons for people in the business of making products.FOLLOW-UPS – 02:23Are Pop Lyrics Getting More Repetitive?How gamification took over the worldCan't Play, Won't PlayAn Interview with Meta CTO Andrew BosworthMeta Connect Keynote 2024Meta’s big teaseMKBHD, PANELS & PRICING – 07:30Marques BrownleeMKBHD’s first reviewMarques Brownlee says ‘I hear you’ after fans criticize his new wallpaper appYouTubers are not your friends
2024-11-15
57 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Why is Design So Boring? with Nate Grubbs
We dive into our titular question with Nate Grubbs, who, unlike us, is a professional designer with strong views borne of decades of experience across UX, visual & product design.MEET NATE – 01:18THE AGE OF AVERAGE – 04:19Alex Murrell: The age of averageThe tyranny of the algorithm: why every coffee shop looks the sameHow Khruangbin’s Sound Became the New Mood Music (paywall)SOUL, FLASH & OLD MAN VIBES – 06:36A Farewell to Adobe Flash—and the Messy, Glorious WebDonnie Darko websiteFélix Lapo...
2024-10-18
57 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Off-the-Cuff: Miele, Snow Peak & Ableton Live
We go off-the-cuff again, sharing product learnings from Miele vacuums, Snow Peak’s modular IGT system & Ableton’s singular vision for music creation.OFF-THE-CUFF – 00:59JOACHIM RECOMMENDS: MIELE C3 VACUUM – 01:38Miele Complete C3 Calima PowerLineBehind Dyson’s cycloneDyson Stick Vacuums Lose CR RecommendationWe’ve Recommended Miele Canister Vacuums for Almost a DecadeMy Middle-Aged Miele C2 Canister Vacuum Has a Long Life Ahead of ItErnest’s now discontinued Miele Cat & Dog VacuumJames Dyson: From Brexit to SingaporeYes, Portland’s Stark’s Vacuum...
2024-10-04
45 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Apple’s iPhone 16 Event: Lessons & Critiques
In another short(er) format episode, we examine Apple’s recent “Glowtime” event. Please do let us know what you think of this new format at LearnMakeLearn@gmail.com or @LearnMakeLearnShow on Threads.OPENING – 00:00Suttle LakeSuttle LodgeHELP US NAME THIS NEW FORMAT! – 03:12APPLE’S ‘GLOWTIME’ EVENT – 05:08Apple EventThe Verge: iPhone 16 event in 16 minutesJohn Gruber describes his feelings after the event on ThreadsJOACHIM’S TAKE – 05:48Smartphone innovation is dead, and that’s fineRevisiting the iPod
2024-09-20
49 min
Learn, Make, Learn
A New Episode Format!
We introduce a new, shorter, more off-the-cuff format focused on recommendations that we hope you’ll enjoy. Also, our apologies for the audio getting a bit crunchy in spots—we’re working hard to improve our audio quality. Please do let us know what you think of this new format at LearnMakeLearn@gmail.com or on Threads @LearnMakeLearnShow.ONE MILLION CHECKBOXES – 03:20Are You a Checker or an Unchecker? (paywall)The Secret Inside One Million CheckboxesNolan Royalty on X‘Infinity Blade II: ClashMob’ Uses the Cloud, Crowd-Sourcing for Group-Based GamingON KI...
2024-09-11
40 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Generative AI x Product with Anmol Anubhai
Generative AI: step change or snake oil du jour? We enter this mire with Anmol Anubhai as our guide & insight into the future of GenAI x product creation as our destination. Join us for a refreshingly grounded conversation on a topic that’s typically full of hype.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:42The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Manual Mode Changes Performance EVs ForeverWTF is a Product Manager?Dare Obasanjo on Product Management at Figma Config 2024Dare Obasanjo on ThreadsShreyas Doshi on ThreadsShreyas on why product management is hardGenA...
2024-07-18
1h 10
Learn, Make, Learn
The Weight of History
The pressure to repeat history, as in the previous year’s sales for a given product, can be pernicious. We share ideas for unshackling yourself from this weight so that you can avoid, as Marshall McLuhan put it, marching backwards into the future.FOLLOW-UPS – 00:43Humane is looking for a buyerCoffeezilla on the Rabbit R1NOMOS at Watches & WondersNOMOS: The icon in 31 color compositionsNoel Gallagher on Jimi HendrixThe Panic Over Smartphones Doesn’t Help Teens (paywall)THE WEIGHT OF HISTORY – 21:57 Reuters: Retailers...
2024-06-07
1h 16
Learn, Make, Learn
The Perils of Fan Service
The concept of fan service, which originated in anime and is now common across media, has pervaded the world of product creation as well. We discuss what it is & why it’s vital to serve your customers without pandering to them.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:11Progressive Complexity (aka Progressive Disclosure)THE PERILS OF FAN SERVICE – 03:50Star Wars: Fired Solo Directors Didn't Want Movie To Just Be Fan ServiceBlackBerry’s Future in DoubtClicks is a BlackBerry-style iPhone keyboard caseJanet Jackson Goes Sneaker Shopping With ComplexTHE “Y...
2024-05-23
1h 02
Learn, Make, Learn
Enough *Is* Enough
When it comes to products and product innovation, in our new era of higher-for-longer interest rates, enough *is* enough.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:23iOS spacebar memeWindup Watch Fair San FranciscoSteven Pinker is wrong about violence and warERA OF EASY MONEY IS OVER – 12:02The Era of Easy Money Is Over. That’s a Good Thing.The Price of TimeCASE STUDIES: BAD & GOOD — 18:34The Worst Product I've Ever Reviewed... For NowKilled by GoogleRabbit R1: Barely ReviewableTesla’s Stainles...
2024-05-03
1h 09
Learn, Make, Learn
Daniel Kahneman: Lessons & Critiques
Daniel Kahneman, credited as a grandfather of behavioral economics, passed away in March, and we devote this episode to an unfiltered discussion of his legacy through a product lens.KAHNEMAN’S LEGACY: THE BULL CASE – 01:55NY Times obituary of Daniel KahnemanKAHNEMAN’S LEGACY: THE BEAR CASE – 03:40The “Nudge” of the Obama Era Was Always Neoliberal NonsenseNudge economics: has push come to shove for a fashionable theory?JOACHIM’S PERSPECTIVE – 05:27A Quick Excursion into Behavioral EconomicsERNEST’S PERSPECTIVE – 10:56Ne...
2024-04-25
51 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Design Thinking: Failure or Fall Guy?
A decade ago, design thinking was all the rage across the corporate world. But, today, it's widely derided as a failed experiment. Is there still a place for design thinking or is it an idea whose time has passed?FOLLOW-UPS – 01:56Time to LearnHublot at Watches & Wonders 2024Cartier Santos-Dumont RewindJLC at Watches & Wonders 2024Should Products be Political?BobbieBobbie for ChangeByron Sharp: How Brands GrowDESIGN THINKING – 08:37IDEO Design ThinkingDesign thinking: Where did it go wrong?Tim Brow...
2024-04-18
58 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Time to Learn
Apologies for our delay this week! In this episode, with the Watches & Wonders show around the corner, we talk watches & the broader lessons we can draw from a product category rooted entirely in emotion.WRIST CHECK – 02:16IWC Pilot’s Watch Chrono Top GunMing 37.07HaliosRavenIn-House vs. Off-the-Shelf MovementsIdris Elba Wears a $500 WatchJOACHIM’S 👍 – 11:39IWCIWC and Carl Jung“The IWC Colors” with Pantone ERNEST’S 👍 – 19:05CartierCartier Watches: A Brief HistoryHow Cartier Changed It...
2024-04-06
1h 03
Learn, Make, Learn
Should Products be Political?
This week, we tackle a thorny topic: Should products be political? And to be clear, we don't mean brand messaging. Instead, our focus is products, and whether makers should intentionally imbue their products with their politics.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:15Eno—a groundbreaking generative film by Gary HustwitApple Vision Pros & ConsHugo Barra on Apple Vision ProSHOULD PRODUCTS BE POLITICAL – 05:34Herbert Simons–The Sciences of the ArtificialScenius or Genius?Ulm School of DesignBauhausBrasilia—Inside Brazil’s ‘cautionary tale’‘Republicans buy sneakers, too’
2024-03-27
56 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Scenius or Genius?
Musician Brian Eno defined a scenius as “the intelligence of a whole operation or group of people,” in contrast to the classic archetype of the lone genius. We debate scenius vs. genius in the context of product—is one more conducive to innovation than the other?FOLLOW-UPS – 01:42The Mentats in DuneMcDonald's ordering system suffers McFlurry of tech troublesHow Apple Sank About $1 Billion a Year Into a Car It Never Built• Bloomberg (paywall)• Apple News (iOS-only)How “Jobs To Be Done” Can Help You Make, BetterIDEO‘s Three Lenses
2024-03-21
57 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Can Restomod Culture Go Mainstream?
This week, we talk restomods. It’s a concept born of the automotive world—extending the life of a classic car by modernizing it—but we discuss the potential to apply this idea to categories beyond cars. With sustainability now a must-have in product creation, we believe the restomod concept is ripe for mainstream adoption.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:24Behind Apple’s Doomed Car ProjectRIP Apple Car. This Is Why It Died.CAN RESTOMOD CULTURE GO MAINSTREAM? – 08:28Restomod Culture is Just Getting StartedCharge CarsFineelevenSinger Vehicle Desi...
2024-03-14
1h 07
Learn, Make, Learn
CarPlay or the Highway?
This week, we discuss the tension between integrated in-car UX platforms vs Apple’s CarPlay & Android Auto. When, if ever, does it make sense to give up control of your product experience?FOLLOW-UPS – 02:21Tesler’s Law, aka Conservation of ComplexityTheodore Leavitt on Marketing Myopia@geoffbaron: The difference between PMs & developers@tr3v: No one was ever inspired by a KPICARPLAY OR THE HIGHWAY – 12:20@kirankripakaran on ThreadsEverybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlayWe need to talk about digital ownershipBMW re...
2024-03-06
1h 12
Learn, Make, Learn
WTF is a Product Manager?
This week, we dive into Ernest's career as a product manager/product marketer and discuss what a product manager does, how to sift meaningful insights from the noise, how to enter the field & much more.FOLLOW-UPS – 02:25Surprised by the Hot Hand Fallacy?Imagined Consumption Reduces Actual ConsumptionI placed too much faith in underpowered studiesWTF IS A PRODUCT MANAGER? – 07:24Ernest’s blog post on this topicWhy The Hidden Risks Of Specialization Help Explain CrisesHow “Jobs to Be Done” Can Help You Make, Better
2024-02-28
1h 09
Learn, Make, Learn
WTF is an Applied Microeconomist?
This week, we dive into Joachim's career as an applied microeconomist. What does an applied microeconomist do, how is it relevant to product innovation, how do you enter the field, and much more!FOLLOW-UPS – 01:43Margaret Heffernan: A Bigger PrizeEd Catmull on The Hungry Beast and the Ugly BabyWTF IS AN APPLIED MICROECONOMIST? – 08:44David Hume: “Reason Is and Ought Only to Be the Slave of the Passions”Ariel Rubinstein: Dilemmas of an Economic TheoristKarl Marx: Theses on FeuerbachMechanism DesignTHE ASSU...
2024-02-21
1h 09
Learn, Make, Learn
Experimentation in Product Innovation
In this episode, we challenge tech industry dogma around A/B testing & Minimum Viable Products (MVPs), and propose alternatives better suited to today’s post-low interest rate economy.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:41Apple Vision Pros & ConsHow to book a Vision Pro demo at an Apple StoreApple Vision Pro has finally made virtual reality worth itFirst insights about Apple Vision Pro opticsSteve Jobs on the Post-PC EraApple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s notAnil Dash on Apple Vision ProEXPERIMENTATION IN PRODUCT INNOVA...
2024-02-14
1h 08
Learn, Make, Learn
The Perils of Crossing Over from Niche to Mainstream
We dig into the perils of crossing over from niche to mainstream. How can a brand built on a niche product or service successfully expand its appeal? Should this even be an aspiration?FOLLOW-UPS – 01:24“Low-Resource” Text Classification78% MNIST accuracy using GZIP in under 10 lines of codeMNIST by zipClustering by compressionKolmogorov complexityNormalized compression distanceChatGPT is a Blurry JPEG of the WebLast week’s cover artApple’s LaserWriter Changed Everything (paywall)Adobe, Stability AI & Canva are starting to pay artistsOn Thr...
2024-02-08
46 min
Learn, Make, Learn
When Values & Opportunity Collide
Ernest & Joachim dive into the dilemma faced when a promising business opportunity conflicts with your own or your company's values. The duo offer perspectives on how to navigate this conflict, including tools you can apply to your day-to-day work making products.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:15History of Jobs-to-Be-DoneWHEN VALUES & OPPORTUNITY COLLIDE – 02:15Follow us on ThreadsApple’s Privacy Pledge Complicates Its AI PushGoogle staff criticize leadership over lack of visionWhat’s Gone Wrong at Boeing (paywall)Majority of Gen Zers would quit their jobs over company...
2024-01-31
38 min
Learn, Make, Learn
Toolbox: How “Jobs To Be Done” Can Help You Make, Better
Ernest & Joachim share a deep-dive on the jobs to be done approach to customer-centric product & service innovation. They explain what it is & why it matters, share real world examples of jobs-to-be-done in action, and highlight situations where it might not apply.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:11Apple Vision Pros & ConsDisconnect Blog & NewsletterTech Won't Save Us: Will AR Glasses Die Like Google Glass?SNL Weekend Update: Randall MeeksJOBS TO BE DONE: CONTEXT – 04:53Steve Jobs on “speeds and feeds” marketingTheodore LevittSamsung Electronics Launches Global Rollout of The F...
2024-01-24
40 min