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Open Market
How to Organize an Advertising Event with Marketecture CSO Sam Khoury
Last week was about how to attend events. This week is about how to throw one. Marketecture CSO Sam Khoury joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to break down why media companies and adtech firms host their own events, how to develop the right concept, set attendance and programming goals, land top speakers, and think through costs, sponsorship economics, and logistics. They also cover how to market an event, balance content with biz dev, and make events the ultimate expression of the community built around your brand.
2026-02-25
34 min
Open Market
The Advertising Event Guide: Which Ones Actually Matter?
Dozens of advertising events occur every year, but not every event is for you. Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa break down the purpose of the six core advertising events, who should attend based on stage and ICP, and how to think about events strategically. They also cover common mistakes founders make and how to build an event calendar that drives outcomes, not optics.
2026-02-18
31 min
Open Market
Who's Afraid of Adtech?
Entrepreneurs are often wary of the adtech label for fear that it will undermine valuations, especially by generalist investors. Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa weigh in on whether that concern is legitimate, why founders and investors should be optimistic about adtech in the AI era, and how to handle messaging and positioning if you straddle adtech and other industries or if you're looking to shift your sector.
2026-02-11
23 min
Open Market
Gigi CEO Adam Epstein on Building a Verticalized AI Agent for Advertising
Adam Epstein, CEO of Gigi, joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss what it really means to build and sell a verticalized AI agent for advertising. Adam breaks down why Gigi focused on Amazon DSP, how selling agents differs from selling SaaS, why agents should be framed as jobs, how to price and pilot AI, and what it takes to prove value and onboard customers for agentic software.
2026-01-28
39 min
Open Market
tvScientific-Pinterest Takeaways
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss takeaways from tvScientific-Pinterest with a focus on B2B marketing and investing: why tvScientific's narrative struck the right notes, how they implemented the CEO evangelism playbook, and what their success signals for investors.
2026-01-14
22 min
Open Market
4 Steps to Crush 2026 as an Adtech CEO
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss four ideas for how adtech CEOs can crush it in 2026: overcommunicate direction until you’re sick of yourself; tell a story about the industry, not just your company; design the company for AI; and center outcomes in your storytelling. Plus, Joe talks about getting punched in the face, physically and metaphorically.
2026-01-07
26 min
Open Market
Luck, Alex Karp, and How to Create a Category
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa commune 1:1 for a discussion of the role luck plays in entrepreneurship and how you can create your own luck, the unparalleled value of a charismatic, provocative chief evangelist (Alex Karp case study), and the three conditions required to create a category. Also, Eric offers a based take on us humans hurtling through space on a rock.
2025-12-17
31 min
Open Market
Solving CTV Economics with Transmit CPO Scott Young
Transmit co-founder and CPO Scott Young joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to weigh in on the current state of streaming, why live sports are the crown jewel of CTV, how the YouTube TV-Disney controversy unfolded, and the role AI will play in the future of the channel. Plus, Scott makes Eric's day by de-aging him.
2025-12-10
29 min
Open Market
OpenAds’ Steven Liss on Which AI Advertising Pitches Are Landing
OpenAds CEO and co-founder Steven Liss joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to share which AI plays are likely to endure, how SMBs, brands, and agencies are reacting to the company's AI-native ad platform pitch, what brilliant questions VCs are asking adtech founders these days, and how OpenAds is using AI to run a more efficient startup. Plus, Steven tells the guys what the adtech equivalents of fracking and Tinder are.
2025-12-03
36 min
Open Market
Eric on Fundraising Dos and Don’ts
Eric Franchi blesses Joe Zappa with his insights on the key dos and don’ts of fundraising, including how to get a warm intro, what makes a great pitch deck, which questions to ask VCs, and why manufacturing FOMO or including an exit slide can backfire. Plus, Eric says not to be mad at him if he's rejected you.
2025-11-26
34 min
Open Market
Agency Exec Jay Friedman on the AI Plays CMOs Care About
Agency exec Jay Friedman stops by the pod after extensive research on AI in advertising to update Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on what really matters. Jay covers the different parts of the AI city, the questions CMOs should be asking agencies and adtech companies, and how overtechnical programmatic nerds tend to get about their products. Plus, Eric stunts on not one but two bald, bespectacled counterparts.
2025-11-19
36 min
Open Market
Why You Need a Customer Advisory Board
Eric walks Joe and the listeners through Customer Advisory Boards, or CABs: What they are, why you need one, and how to build them. The guys discuss common mistakes and how to maximize the value of CABs from a marketing perspective.
2025-11-12
19 min
Open Market
Shopsense President Bryan Quinn on Content-to-Commerce and Partnering with TTD
Bryan joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss the content-to-commerce phenomenon Shopsense is pioneering, the startup's partnership with The Trade Desk, and leadership lessons from Amazon. Shopsense is an Aperiam portco and Sharp Pen client.
2025-11-05
32 min
Open Market
Lessons from BOK and Other Marketing Tips
In part 2 of "Common Marketing Misconceptions of Adtech CEOs," Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi discuss a viral post by Scope3's Brian O'Kelley and what other adtech founders and CEOs can learn from his approach to CEO evangelism. Then they bat back and forth other common mistakes, such as worrying about overexposure and over-indexing on events as a marketing tactic. Plus, Joe provides concrete tactical advice for CEOs who don't know what to post about.
2025-10-29
33 min
Open Market
Scope3 COO Anne Coghlan on the AdCP Launch and Agentic Advertising
Anne joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss why the Ad Context Protocol matters, what it will take for agentic advertising to achieve widespread adoption, how agents will drive better outcomes for open internet advertising, and the evolution of Scope3. Plus, Joe gives Anne a chance to dunk on the company's haters.
2025-10-22
39 min
Open Market
IAS Predictions, SMB Ambitions, and AI Bets
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss the acquisition of IAS and the company's potential future directions, how an open internet adtech company could crack the SMB market and which companies are most likely to do it, and the surge of optimism around AI — from GEO to OpenAI to Silicon Valley's return to adtech investing.
2025-10-15
33 min
Open Market
Shiv Gupta on How to Build a Modern Adtech Salesforce
U of Digital CEO and co-founder Shiv Gupta joins the pod to educate Joe and Eric on AI's transformation of adtech, the three legs of the modern sales stool, and how sales and marketing are blurring. Plus, Joe finds out about "jeans parties," an ancient practice handed down to Gen Xers from the Mesopotamians.
2025-10-08
45 min
Open Market
Eric and Joe on Hiring Failures, Q4 Prep, and Pullups
On the Friday before Labor Day, Joe and Eric got loose (or Joe got loose and Eric tolerated his shenanigans). Joe debriefs a recent hire that went wrong, Eric discusses Q4 adtech prep, and the guys debate who can do more pull-ups.
2025-10-01
38 min
Open Market
10 Adtech CEO Misconceptions About Marketing
Joe goes solo to rattle off 10 common misconceptions adtech CEOs have about marketing. No way to grow a business like calling out your customer. Topics include how to find great marketers, how often to communicate, and how to measure the impact of adtech marketing.
2025-09-24
26 min
Open Market
Magnite and Streamr on the Performance TV Acquisition
Magnite CPO Adam Soroca and Streamr CEO and co-founder Jonathan Moffie join the pod to discuss the leading SSP buying the CTV creative automation platform. Adam and Jonathan break down the thinking behind the deal, how it came together, and what other startup founders can learn from Streamr's example. Joe posits that performance TV is the big thesis in adtech and asks the guys what Magnite needs to do to deliver on its promise.
2025-09-17
26 min
Open Market
Journalist Mike Shields on PR Being Even More Dead
Traditional PR is dead! But don't take our word for it. Ask an actual journalist, former Wall Street Journal and AdWeek reporter Mike Shields. Mike tells Joe and Eric why Joe's shtick about throwing out the 2005 marketing playbook resonates with him, how to actually succeed at traditional PR or media relations, and what adtech companies can do instead to get the word out.
2025-09-10
33 min
Open Market
Auren Hoffman on LiveRamp Lessons, Great Talent, and Contrarian Takes
Serial entrepreneur and investor Auren Hoffman joins Eric and Joe to discuss why he shouldn’t have sold LiveRamp and how he’d push the company forward today, what he’s excited about in adtech, how to spot great talent, and things most people he respects believe that he disagrees with. Tune in to find out whether EQ is overrated and why Auren might start another adtech company.
2025-09-03
43 min
Open Market
James Borow on Universal Ads’ Approach to CTV
Universal Ads' James Borow joins Eric and Joe to discuss the key components of the performance TV category, Universal Ads' unique approach, how big an impact performance TV will have on the open web as a whole, and what he's learned from selling multiple companies. Hijinks about corporations ensue.
2025-08-27
35 min
Open Market
tvScientific CEO Jason Fairchild on Fundraising Strategy
tvScientific CEO and co-founder Jason Fairchild joins the pod a second time to discuss fundraising strategies. Tips for Open Marketers include taking more at-bats, choosing the right timing and making the success of the company feel inevitable, making strategics' success a part of your success, and surrounding yourself with the right people, especially for your first company. Joe also lectures Jason and Eric on proper sunscreening habits.
2025-08-20
30 min
Open Market
Building and Managing Teams with PayPal Ads' Dan Robbins
PayPal's Dan Robbins joins Joe and the Italian Beef on the pod to discuss how management and collaboration changes as an organization grows from one person to over 100 (which Dan oversaw at Roku), heuristics and personality frameworks for understanding people's tendencies and motivations, and why marketing should be an input, not just an output. Plus, Joe tests the guys' patience with his fervor for astrology for business bros aka the enneagram.
2025-08-13
36 min
Open Market
Onetag Co-CEO Filippo Gramigna on Collaborative Leadership and International Adtech
Onetag Co-CEO Filippo Gramigna joins Eric and Joe on the pod to discuss running Onetag as co-CEO with founder Daniel Pirchio, Italian vs Nordic vs American debate styles, and how and when to expand a European adtech company to the US. Filippo gives Joe and Eric some tips on how to navigate intergenerational disagreements, and the trio dives into the nuances of curation.
2025-08-06
31 min
Open Market
Blis President Alex Boras on AI Media Planning
Blis President Alex Boras joins the pod to do a live demo of Blis AI, the location-based DSP's new AI media planning and audience building tool. Alex walks Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa through the tool, showing how audience building has changed with AI from a manual, step-by-step process into a synthetic, highly customized, streamlined exchange between planner and machine.
2025-07-30
19 min
Open Market
The Cluely Marketing Playbook
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dive into the tenets of the Cluely marketing playbook, focusing specifically on lessons for adtech and martech founders and marketers. In short: Tell a provocative story about heroes and villains, leverage the CEO as chief evangelist, and capitalize on social channels. Also, Joe shares a big idea for scaled adtech companies: buy creator-led media, especially Marketecture, à la Hubspot and The Hustle.
2025-07-23
25 min
Open Market
Everything About Boards with Aperiam Partner Corey Ferengul
Serial CEO and board member Corey Ferengul joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to teach the audience everything they need to know about boards, especially from the founder's perspective. When do you assemble a board? Who should be on it? How do you structure it? What types of questions are great for boards? How do you prepare for updates? And how does the marketing leader communicate with the board? Corey provides the deepest dive out there on boards for adtech founders and marketers.
2025-07-16
48 min
Open Market
Mobian CEO Jonah Goodhart on Another Bite at the Adtech Apple
Jonah joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss the key factors that allowed his company Moat to exit for $850M to Oracle and how he's approaching GTM differently this time around with his marketing measurement company Mobian. Joe, Eric, and Jonah riff on the Mobian story in real-time, and Joe scintillates the audience with a detour into French philosophy (courtesy of Jonah's dad).
2025-07-09
48 min
Open Market
Big Happy CEO Jonathan Frohlinger on Building a Creative Business
Big Happy CEO Jonathan Frohlinger joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss how he got a mobile creative tech business off the ground, learnings in GTM and hiring from his agency days, and what an adtech moat looks like in the AI era. Plus, Jon shares some news: Big Happy's expansion from mobile to DOOH.
2025-07-02
40 min
Open Market
Duration Media CEO Andy Batkin on a Hybrid Approach to Adtech GTM
Duration Media CEO Andy Batkin joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss why and how his company evolved from a focus on viewability to curation and combining old-school sales and marketing tactics with more modern approaches.
2025-06-25
23 min
Open Market
How AI Disruption Will Affect Advertising Jobs and Romanticizing the Open Web
First, Eric shares a prediction from Anthropic's CEO on AI-fueled labor disruption and examines how that will affect jobs in advertising, media, and adtech. Then, Joe shares his critique of romanticizing the open web and clarifies three things adtech companies should be thinking about when considering the future of the open web: what consumers want, what advertisers want, and websites vs CTV, audio, and DOOH.
2025-06-18
21 min
Open Market
Are Ads or Micropayments the Future of the Open Internet?
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss whether micropayments will overtake ads as the default monetization model for the open internet as well as OpenAI's big hardware bet and its implications for advertising. Plus, Joe provides three marketing tips on staying the course, when to respond to criticism, and how the advertising echo chamber works. Finally, Joe reveals what animal Sharp Pen would be.
2025-06-11
24 min
Open Market
LUMA Recap and the 4 Big Advertising Trends
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa break down what happened at DMS by LUMA, highlighting four trends: the Outcomes Era, AI transformation, the war for the open internet, and the explosion of creators. They dive deep into how open internet adtech companies can position themselves against the walled gardens by leaning into transparency and whether creators represent the latest phase of the open internet. GTM tips abound.
2025-06-04
28 min
Open Market
SWYM Messaging Workshop with CEO Ravi Patel
Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi workshop to SWYM story in real-time, unearthing with Ravi Patel how to describe SWYM's differentiated approach to its eponymous mission: helping advertisers to stop wasting their money. They discuss the many curation / quality plays out there and how SWYM differs as well as the evolution from ad buying 1.0 to 2.0 to (now) 3.0. Plus, Joe tries to find out what Ravi and Eric need to stop wasting their money on (to little avail).
2025-05-28
38 min
Open Market
Retail Media Messaging Workshop with Kevel CEO James Avery
Kevel CEO James Avery joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on the pod to discuss how Kevel has evolved over the years, the current retail media landscape, and what the space will look like in five years. Also, Eric and Joe do a deep dive on Kevel's story, and the three workshop the company's messaging in real-time.
2025-05-21
29 min
Open Market
How to Turn Your Value Prop into a Story
Joe rants at Eric about how to turn a company's value proposition into a compelling story that brings more customers and those who influence them into a company's circle. Also, Joe and Eric cover how to optimize for a team of smart folks who make complicated things simple, the value of playing long-term games with long-term people, and the emerging alternative to college.
2025-05-14
26 min
Open Market
Is It POSSIBLE for Jeff Green to Crush it on LinkedIn?
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss POSSIBLE joining the ranks of adtech’s tentpole events, how many brands were there, the two ways to approach events (spontaneous connections or maniacal planning), brand-startup connections, and Joe Zawadzki’s recognizable floppy hair. Plus, Joe analyzes The Trade Desk CEO Jeff Green’s LinkedIn presence and explains how he’d approach it differently.
2025-05-07
38 min
Open Market
The Next $1B Commerce Media Business with PayPal Ads GM Dr. Mark Grether
Dr. Mark Grether joins the pod to talk about the four components of a massive commerce media business, how to maximize the opportunity for advertisers, why he joined PayPal to build their commerce media network after building Uber's ad business to $1B in revenue, and how AI is changing commerce media for advertisers, media owners, and consumers.
2025-04-30
32 min
Open Market
From Brand Safety to Suitability with Michael Bishop and Rich Raddon
OpenAds CTO (and former Moat engineer) Michael Bishop and Zefr CEO Rich Raddon join Eric and Joe to discuss the evidence-based case (or lack thereof) for brand safety, why we should shift our mindset from safety to suitability and contextual targeting, the link between suitability and performance, and how AI is changing the space. Plus, Michael drops the term "poststructuralist" on the pod, a philosophical allusion for the ages.
2025-04-23
30 min
Open Market
AI, Work Productivity Gaps, and Customer Experience with Crosshatch CEO Soren Larson
Friend of the pod and Crosshatch CEO Soren Larson joins Eric and Joe to discuss how AI is transforming venture scaling and bootstrapped business building, the hot sectors of adtech, and how LLMs will change the customer experience. Plus, Soren is now a car guy, and Joe presses Eric on the dark secrets of VC secret society.
2025-04-16
48 min
Open Market
The OpenAI Ad Opportunity, Second-Time Founders, and Reading Your Coworkers
OpenAI says it won’t build an ad business. Joe and Eric say it will — and it’ll be massive. Plus, how AI is boosting margins, why adtech disproportionately rewards second-time founders, and what Eric’s Enneagram type reveals.
2025-04-09
48 min
Open Market
AI for the Open Web and Product-Market Fit Is Like ... Porn?
Eric dons his professorial glasses and trots out his most sumptuous-sounding microphone to hold office hours as he and Joe discuss the performance TV thesis' equivalent for the open web, how Joe can work with early-stage startup founders, and how you know you have product-market fit (hint: it's like porn).
2025-04-02
41 min
Open Market
A Deep Dive into Adtech M&A with Azerion’s Matt Newcomb
Matt Newcomb, head of Azerion in the US, UK, and APAC, joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to dive deep into mergers and acquisitions. They discuss how the CEO can maximize a company's chances of a favorable exit, integration best practices, what will drive adtech M&A over the next couple of years, and war stories. Joe promises to visit Eric in his nursing home and shares what it's like to record a pod with not one but two handsome devils.
2025-03-26
41 min
Open Market
Practical Takeaways from the Scope3 AI and Aperiam 2.0 Launches
Eric and Joe discuss the three things you need to do to maximize the impact of a product launch or press announcement by analyzing the success of two launches last week: Scope3's AI products and Aperiam 2.0. Plus, Eric can't sit with Joe at lunch, and Eric is hoarding modernist wooden elephants.
2025-03-19
28 min
Open Market
Reply Guy to "CTV for SMBs" Founder with Streamr CEO Jonathan Moffie
Streamr CEO Jonathan Moffie joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss AppLovin's success, the performance TV opportunity, making streaming accessible to SMB advertisers, and returning to his natural role as a reply guy, be it on Brooklyn Nets or adtech Twitter.
2025-03-12
36 min
Open Market
Creating Shareholder Value with Marpipe CEO Dan Pantelo
Marpipe founder and CEO Dan Pantelo joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on the pod to talk about bringing his company back from a near-collapse during the Silicon Valley Bank crash, rejecting an acquisition offer, discovering product-market fit, and dynamic product ads' contribution to the future of performance advertising.
2025-03-05
41 min
Open Market
Measuring B2B Marketing with Octane11 CEO Dan Rosenberg
Octane11 CEO Dan Rosenberg joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss B2B marketing measurement, lessons from MediaMath, and differentiating from other data/measurement companies.
2025-02-26
39 min
Open Market
Attention, Adtech Hype, and Getting Denied a Raise with Eric and Joe
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa talk about the the formula for generating more attention, where we are in the adtech hype cycle, the time Joe got denied a $650/month raise, and weeks where decades happen.
2025-02-19
38 min
Open Market
Debate! Outcomes Era vs Quality Era with Erez Levin
Adtech influencer and product guy Erez Levin joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on the pod to debate Joe's thesis, the Outcomes Era, and present an alternative, the Quality Era. They debate whether Outcomes or Quality is the dominant paradigm of digital advertising, what constitutes a quality or real outcome, and whether media should be primarily valued based on its quality or its propensity to drive sales, among other points. Eric leverages his experience refereeing fights in his dojo gym to moderate.
2025-02-12
43 min
Open Market
The AI-Inflected Future of Ads with OpenAds Co-Founder Michael Bishop
OpenAds co-founder and CTO Michael Bishop joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss how AI will transform static ads into personalized experiences, the multi-hundred-billion-dollar AI "search" ad opportunity, the challenges and advantages of building an adtech AI startup, and the irrational, gut-oriented disposition tech entrepreneurs need to go after huge but hard opportunities.
2025-02-05
48 min
Open Market
The Future of AI and Customer Experiences with Crosshatch CEO Soren Larson
Crosshatch CEO Soren Larson joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss how AI will improve customer experiences, why first-party data isn’t enough to power personalization, the intersection of AI agents and advertising, and the role of the agency in an AI-driven advertising industry.
2025-01-29
47 min
Open Market
How Adtech GTM Is Changing with Peer39 CEO Mario Diez
Peer39 CEO Mario Diez joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss why publishers banding together failed 11 years ago and still hasn't worked, the advantages of a GTM CEO and the gaps they need to fill, how adtech GTM has changed over the last 15 years, and the future of advertising data companies in an AI-driven world.
2025-01-22
44 min
Open Market
Live from CES: What's Next for Viant AI with Viant CEO Tim Vanderhook
Viant CEO and co-founder Tim Vanderhook joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa live at CES to discuss what's next for ViantAI, how AI will disrupt advertising, the ramifications of Google's dominance, and CES vibes.
2025-01-15
23 min
Open Market
Building a Community with AdTech God
The mysterious deity of adtech, Adtech God, joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on the pod to discuss how to build an audience and community, why most adtech companies are still approaching marketing with a 2005 playbook, and what individuals and organizations can do to capture the precious attention of their audiences.
2025-01-08
39 min
Open Market
Lessons from 2024 and Predictions for 2025
It's just Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa, your humble hosts, on this episode as they break down the ever-increasing power of content to influence your reputation and relationships, the companies that dominated adtech in 2024, and the adtech and advertising sectors to watch in 2025. Plus, Eric hates dogs (if you know, you know).
2025-01-01
47 min
Open Market
Inventing Performance TV with Jason Fairchild
tvScientific CEO and co-founder Jason Fairchild joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to talk about the lessons he brought from OpenX to tvScientific, inventing the performance TV category, and which big players, including The Trade Desk and AppLovin, might get into performance TV (or not).
2024-12-18
43 min
Open Market
Rising from the Ashes of MediaMath with AdLib CEO Mike Hauptman
AdLib CEO and co-founder Mike Hauptman joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to tell the story of meta DSP AdLib's reinvention after the collapse of MediaMath in 2023. We go deep into the story of the day MediaMath was shut off and explore how AdLib reoriented itself and came back stronger in the wake of that event. Plus, Joe makes fun of Eric for being old — replete with nautical metaphors!
2024-12-11
35 min
Open Market
Charting New Territory for DMPs with Permutive CEO Joe Root
Permutive CEO and co-founder Joe Root joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss the evolution of the DMP category and how to evolve the identity of a company as market forces shift around it. Eric and Joe put Joe Root in the hot seat, too, as they workshop Permutive's message in real-time.
2024-12-04
39 min
Open Market
Getting in the Arena with Matt Barash
Matt Barash is perhaps the best example of an adtech influencer. The master networker and content creator joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss what most people get wrong about building influence, his theory of attention, why executives shouldn't be afraid of controversy, and the opportunities Matt is excited about today in the advertising industry.
2024-11-25
43 min
Open Market
Moving Marketing to the Boardroom with Goodway Group CEO Jay Friedman
Jay Friedman, CEO of Goodway Group, joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to talk about elevating marketing within organizations, developing a distinct marketing philosophy, driving incremental returns on advertising, and carving out space for yourself and your business with bold, provocative takes.
2024-11-20
39 min
Open Market
Preaching in the Desert with ID5's Mathieu Roche
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa interview Mathieu Roche, CEO & co-founder of ID5, about evangelizing identity solutions before it was cool, driving urgency, competing with big players, bringing a European business to market in the US, and managing a remote-first workplace.
2024-11-13
38 min
Open Market
Expanding CTV Access to SMBs with Vibe’s Arthur Querou
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa speak with Vibe founder and CEO Arthur Querou about an unconventional adtech product launch, aligning product with marketing and sales, and the differences between enterprise and SMB sales.
2024-11-04
36 min
Open Market
Deep Dive on Acquisitions with LUMA’s Terry Kawaja
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa interview Terry Kawaja, founder and CEO of LUMA. They cover the existential importance of marketing to acquisitions, the role of the CEO in building the brand of a startup, and the optimal conditions for exiting.
2024-10-30
49 min
Open Market
“The Most Anticlimactic Moment” and Other Lessons from Undertone
Joe Zappa interviews co-host Eric Franchi about the biggest lessons he learned building and selling Undertone. Eric talks about his best-ever hires, the biggest challenge Undertone faced in his tenure, and how he approached life and business post-exit.
2024-10-23
47 min
Open Market
Why Sincera Is So Bad at Marketing with Sincera Founder Mike O'Sullivan
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa interview Sincera founder Mike O’Sullivan about the category Sincera is creating, marketing early-stage startups, and the risks of playing it safe.
2024-10-16
53 min
Open Market
Taste as a Differentiator, Hiring a Head of Growth, and Zuck
This week on the pod, co-hosts Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi dig into the new frontier of taste in Silicon Valley, whether you should hire a head of growth and what they should focus on, the MrBeast memo, viral adtech social posts, and Mark Zuckerberg’s live interview on stage with the Acquired pod.Links:Taste is Eating Silicon Valley. by Anu AtluruAndrew Yeung’s LinkedIn post on “Head of Growth”MrBeast memo
2024-10-09
39 min
Open Market
Building Businesses on Thought Leadership with Eric Seufert
Co-hosts Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi chat with Eric Seufert about how he's used thought leadership, especially via his blog Mobile Dev Memo, to launch successful tech, media, and investing businesses and become one of the best-known voices in mobile.
2024-10-02
43 min
Open Market
The Vanderhooks on the Best Adtech Product Launch… Ever?
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa chat with Tim and Chris Vanderhook, co-founders of Viant. They discuss the Vanderhooks’ creative approach to the extremely successful launch of ViantAI, their take on “founder mode,” and how their approach to adtech entrepreneurship has evolved over 25 years. (Note: Viant is a client of Joe’s agency, Sharp Pen. This episode was not sponsored.)
2024-09-25
43 min
Open Market
The Common Traits of Eric’s 3 Most Successful Investments
Joe Zappa interviews co-host Eric Franchi, a general partner at the venture capital fund Aperiam, to identify the three traits his three most successful investments have in common. They discuss Kevel, Transmit.live, and tvScientific.
2024-09-18
36 min
Open Market
Founder Mode with mParticle's Michael Katz
Michael Katz, CEO and co-founder of the customer data platform mParticle, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi on the pod to discuss his take on founder mode. Michael argues that founders can most effectively build organizations by focusing on two factors, context and culture, but most leaders optimize for the wrong factors when they make key hires.
2024-09-11
41 min
Open Market
Building a Dynamic Culture and Tackling Big Problems with Brian O’Kelley
Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa interview adtech entrepreneur Brian O’Kelley. The former Right Media and AppNexus executive turned co-founder and CEO of marketing sustainability company Scope3 discusses how his approach to leadership has changed and how to inspire boldness and drive as organizations scale. Brian also touches on whether he’d do the AppNexus acquisition the same way today and responds to common criticisms of Scope3.
2024-09-04
49 min
Open Market
The Non-Founder Path to CEO with Lauren Wetzel
This week on the pod, Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi interview the sharpest-tongued CEO in adtech, Lauren Wetzel. Newly minted as the CEO of InfoSum, Lauren talks about her journey to the position, including: How her consulting background launched her into the adtech C-suite The Venn diagram between a COO and a CEO Why a company should hire a chief of staff (or not) Why CEOs shouldn’t be afraid of speaking out about industry issues
2024-08-28
43 min
Open Market
PR Is Dead. Long Live PR!
Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi mourn the death of PR as we know it. Listen to the episode to learn how PR and other forms of marketing are becoming more entwined — and how CEOs should assume the mantle of PR on social.
2024-08-21
35 min
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How Do You Become an Investor?
Joe Zappa interviews his co-host, Eric Franchi, a general partner at the venture capital fund Aperiam, about how to become an investor. They cover: The difference between being an operator and a VC How VCs decide which startups to fund What founders should expect from investors How to get into investing Whether non-professional investors should do angel investing
2024-08-14
41 min
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Marketing Grab Bag: Attribution, Cookies, and Toad!
This week’s episode is a marketing grab bag! Eric and Joe discuss: Why most companies misunderstand B2B marketing attribution How companies should respond to the latest on cookies from a GTM POV What founders can be doing early on to market themselves What companies should be getting out of a 20-person marketing team
2024-08-07
39 min
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Building Sales Orgs at Twitter and tvScientific with Chris Riedy
This week on the pod, Eric and Joe are joined by Chris Riedy, former VP of Global Sales and Marketing at Twitter and current CRO at tvScientific, to discuss how to build sales organizations. Chris has the answers to all your sales development questions, whether your business is an early-stage startup or tech behemoth.
2024-07-31
42 min
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What Does Strategic Marketing Actually Look Like?
Joe gets his Bill Simmons on in this quick solo episode on how to do strategic marketing.If you go on B2B marketing LinkedIn (God help you), you'll see tons of people talking about strategic marketing. But what actually are the components of a marketing strategy? How do you put one together?Joe explains how he writes a strategic marketing plan in this episode so that you can do the same — or know what to expect from your marketing colleagues.
2024-07-24
22 min
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How Eric and Mike Built Undertone to a $180M Exit
Joe interviews Eric Franchi and Mike Cassidy to unearth the story of Undertone, the ad network company they sold to Perion for $180 million.How did Eric and Mike get Undertone to about $3M in revenue as an agency? Why did they switch to the ad network model? And how did they scale it from there to $100M in revenue, including key hires, GTM, and taking on private equity?Check out this deep dive to hear two founders' take on the steps required to produce a massively successful adtech outcome.
2024-07-17
1h 08
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Creating an Audio Behemoth with Vox's Ryan Pauley
Joe and Eric interview Ryan Pauley, President of Revenue and Growth at Vox Media, to uncover how the digital media company moved into audio with great success. They cover the best practices for expanding to audio, how to exploit what makes audio unique (think: talent, personality, and intimacy), and what differentiates audio as a marketing opportunity. Check out the episode to learn insider tips from someone who did it right!
2024-07-10
35 min
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4 Ways to Win with AdTech Marketing
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss the four ways to win with adtech marketing (including great detail on how to pursue each strategy).1. Differentiated story 2. Original data/insights3. Thought leadership4. Being prolific, present, and personableCheck out the pod to learn about how to grow your business with each approach!
2024-07-03
31 min
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What Makes a Great AdTech CEO?
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dig into the evergreen question of what sets the great CEOs apart in the adtech world. Whether they’re a CEO/founder or a hired gun, a great CEO has to balance: Product expertise A GTM strategy Company culture and values Talent acquisition We rattle off a few “shiny” CEOs that come to mind and analyze what made them so successful. If you’re curious who made the list, this episode is for you! By the way, click here to read Auren Hoffman’s blog post on the LiveRamp acq...
2024-06-26
35 min
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What to Do If Your Market Isn’t Big Enough
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa cover what to do if your market is too small to achieve your business goals. For example: How to launch a new product or enter into a new market When and how to involve your customers in market expansion efforts What sales/marketing and product teams need to do to get aligned How to derisk your transition by enlisting customer champions If you’re eyeing a pivot to retail media and/or CTV right now, this is for you!
2024-06-19
33 min
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How to Grow Adtech Companies from $1M to $10M
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dive into the details of how adtech startups grow from $1M to $10M and what pitfalls to avoid along the way. They cover: What your team should look like around the $1M / Series A mark How to transition from founder-led sales to a professionalized sales team When and how to hire marketers What to look for and how much to pay key early hires such as a VP of sales Usually you need to book time with people like Eric to get this info. Now it’s available here!
2024-06-12
39 min
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Why You Should Hire a Chief Audience Officer
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa explain why you should hire a chief audience officer. The discussion includes: The 3 things adtech customers really care about Why most adtech companies' theories of victory are wrong What to look for in a chief audience officer Who in adtech is a good example of a potential CAO Also, here is the My First Million episode we discuss on the pod: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4qNgPuS5aePbWSgjdsKn2o?si=PHfj0u_TTEKLAOV67p1QLQ
2024-06-05
38 min
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How to Reverse-Engineer a $10M Adtech Exit
Co-hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dive into a thought experiment: how to reverse-engineer a $10M adtech exit. They touch on: What value you need to provide to get bought for $10M An actual example of an adtech company that sold for low eight figures The ideal team Adtech product ideas that could lead to a quick $10M exit right now As a VC, Eric initially hated this idea, but by the end, Joe wears him down. Check out the X thread that started the discussion: https://x.com/joe_zappa/status/1788246400020447375
2024-05-28
30 min