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Motivational Interviewing & BeyondThe International Motivational Interviewing Summit: DebriefThe 2025 Motivational Interviewing Summit was a gathering ofcolleagues from around the world to explore the future of MIpractice, and research. Sponsored by the Florida State University Center for Behavioral Health Integration, the MI Summit was held in Tallahassee, Florida, USA on 17-18 May 2025. This interactive collaborative event included roundtable and panel discussions centred on innovations and directions of MI. We had robust exchanges, friendly differences, and good humour through a lively two-daygathering. In this podcast we reflected on the the learnings and questions that emerged from our time together.2025-07-271h 29Motivational Interviewing & BeyondHow Much Expertise Do You Need To Be Helpful?In the episode of MIB, Steve and Joel are joined by Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Densie Ernst to explore how skillful do you need to be at MI to be hopeful. This conversation compliments up our last episode on "Harmology". We hope you find this discussion stimulating and enjoyable. We could not do MIB without the generous support of the team at the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Support at Florida State University. Thanks for listening! Joel & Steve2024-08-081h 29Motivational Interviewing & BeyondHarmology: How Helping Can Cause Unintended HarmIn this episode Joel, Steve and friends explore how attempting to help people can sometimes cause harm. Steve lays out four types of people that cause harm. We explore the potentially side of toxic empathy and sympathy. The importance of informed practice. We also begin a conversation on: How much MI do people actually need to know to be helpful? Thanks the guests Brendan Murphy, Shaun Shelly and our host at Florida State University Heather Flynn for sharing your wisdom and experiences.2024-04-251h 23Motivational Interviewing & BeyondWhat would Carl Rogers think about MI?In this episode Steve, Joel and Ange are joined by our good friends Allan Zuckoff and Chris Wagner to explore MI and Person Centered Counselling. Where do these approaches converge and diverge. We did the best we could to explore what Carl Rogers might think about MI if he was alive today. Happy Holidays and we will see next year!2023-12-031h 44Motivational Interviewing & BeyondThe Future of MIIn this episode, Steve, Kendelle and Joel are live from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers annual Forum in Copenhagen, Denmark. The conversation was with both friends in audience and online. There was a lot of conversational territory covered in an hour and half. Apparently, the use of MI is being explores in a wide range of areas from cultural humility to family relationships and even climate change. Based on this conversation the future of MI is a work in progress. 2023-10-271h 23Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMI & AI: What is Happening and What Does the Future Hold?In this episode of MIB, Joel, Kendelle, Steve, Ange and some wonderful guests explore two questions: What exactly is Artificial Intelligence? and What is happening with AI and MI in regards to research, training and practice. As always we welcome ideas and questions form the global MIB community and look forward to seeing you later this month. Guests: David Atkins, Michael Tanana, Catharine Devany Serio, Alex Wait and June Kim.2023-07-051h 32Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMotivational Interviewing, 4th Edition: What's in-store? What's changed?In this episode, Joel, Kendell, Ange, Molly Magill and the participants will have a conversation with Steve about what to expect to find in the upcoming 4th edition of the MI book. Bring your questions and ideas to share with Steve and everyone.2023-05-311h 54Motivational Interviewing & Beyondupdated - Psychedelic Assisted Therapy: Does MI Have a Place?In this episode, Joel, Steve and Ange take a long look at psychedelic assisted therapy (PAT) and how MI may or may not fit. We are joined by Joshua Bringle, PhD, Joji Suzuki, MD, Candida Mauer, PhD and Michael Fluop, MD who are all engaged in funded clinical trails ketamine and psylocibin. The conversation was fun, illuminating and mind altering (or changing) for some. The audience chat is included in the Transcript section.On a side note, MIB is heading into our third year, with 42,000 down loads and continues to build a lovely international community of friends. MI...2023-04-271h 33Motivational Interviewing & BeyondHope and MI: Is hope a verb? A noun? How does hope feel? What does it look like? How important is it?In this episode of MIB, Kendelle, Joel, Angela and guests explore the place of hope in helping people grow and make changes. We take a look at how hope fits with the spirit and practice of MI.2023-04-041h 28Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMI With More Than One Person: What Does That Look Like?In this episode we introduce Kendall Bond as part of the MIB team. We are joined by Karen Ingersoll, Tyrel Starks and Chris Wagner to explore how MI can be adapted to work with more than on person in groups counselling, couples therapy, classrooms and sports teams.2023-02-231h 51Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMotivational Interviewing in the Political Sphere: Is There a Case for It?In this episode, Steve, Joel, Kendelle Bond and friends from around the world explore if, where and how MI fits into the broader conversations about change. What can MI bring to the conversations outside of the therapy room, locker room or classroom?2022-11-301h 28Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMotivational Interviewing as a Catalyst for Building Skills: How Practicing MI Cultivates Good PracticeIn this Oceanic episode of MI & Beyond we have Helen Mentha, Tipene Pickett, Kyle McKenzie and Ken McMaster in a conversation to explore how learning and practicing MI improves practice across the spectrum of helping.2022-09-051h 30Motivational Interviewing & BeyondIs There a Theory Behind MI? Part II In this episode of MIB, Joel, Ange, Steve, Bill Miller, Molly Magill, Chris Wagner, Paul Earnshaw, Allan Zuckoff will continue the discussion to try to discover if an underlying theory of MI exists (or if one is needed). We are joined by a couple of people from the audience to liven thing up. This is one robust and stimulating conversation for MI Geeks!2022-07-301h 37Motivational Interviewing & BeyondIs There A Theory Behind MI? If So, What Is It?In this episode of MIB, Joel, Ange, Terri Moyers, Bill Neto, Kathy Goumas, Allan Zuckoff and other guests will try to discover if an underlying theory of MI exists (or if one is needed). After a a robust opening, the conversation eventually finds it's way to the place where we hoped it would. It looks like we be having a part two of this conversation before too long. 2022-07-031h 34Motivational Interviewing & BeyondTraining People in Motivational Interviewing: What have we learned over the decades?Motivational Interviewing has been disseminated to an untold number of people around the world. In this episode Joel, Ange, Steve and guests from around the world take a look at Motivational Interviewing training over the years. We explore questions such as: What's changed over time? What's stayed the same? Virtual training versus face-to-face training, what’s best? Does everyone really need to be proficient in MI to be helpful?2022-06-061h 40Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMotivational Interviewing and a Restorative ApproachBest friends with the potential for making an impact at home, school, and in sport? Join Joel, Ange, and Steve with special guests Andy Williams, Orla Adams, Steve Berg-Smith, David Rosengren and Ken McMaster for a bumper discussion on how to improve culture, relationships, and outcomes.2022-06-061h 38Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMI Behind Bars: Motivational Interviewing in the World of CorrectionsSteve, Ange and Joel along with Jennifer Luther (USA), Michael Clark (USA), Ken McMaster (Aotearoa/New Zealand) and Fredrik Eliasson (Sweden) take a look at the past, present and future of MI in area of corrections. This freewheeling and, at times, personal conversation covers a lot of ground.2022-03-302h 02Motivational Interviewing & BeyondNo Such Thing As A Dumb Question: Ask Us Anything About MIJoel, Steve, Ange, Cristiana Fortini, Ken McMaster and Tipene Pickett were curious to know what questions are about MI are out there. We may not have had all the answers, but we gave it our best shot. We had some thought provoking questions, interesting answers and good fun.2022-02-241h 47Motivational Interviewing & BeyondInside the conversation about change: What is helpful? Where does hope come in? What is harmful?In this episode of MIB, Joel, Steve, Ange along with Molly Magill, Denise Ernst, Colin O'Driscoll and Rick Cotgreave take a look into what happens in our conversations about change and more. The conversation has some turns and twists that create more questions than answers. 2022-02-061h 41Motivational Interviewing & BeyondCollateral Damage From Good Intentions: When Attempts at Helping Cause HarmIn this third part of the Inside The Conversation of Change, Joel, Steve, Ange, Denise Ernst, Molly Magill, Shaun Shelly, Patrick Berthiaume and friends discuss the idea of harmful conversation, exploring when attempts at helping accidentally cause harm and how to prevent it.2022-02-0601 minMotivational Interviewing & BeyondMI Across Cultures: What Makes MI Appealing to People Around the World?In this episode of MIB, we explore the appeal and helpfulness of MI across cultures, languages and borders. Joel, Ange and Steve are joined by friends and colleagues from Brazil, South Africa and Aotearoa/New Zealand to share ideas and stories from training and practicing MI to get a better understanding of international and cross cultural adoption of MI.2021-11-082h 00Motivational Interviewing & BeyondMotivational Interviewing and Addictive Behaviours: What have we learned in 35 years?In this episode, Steve, Ange & Joel are joined by Denise Ernst (USA), Simon Adamson (New Zealand), Shaun Shelly (South Africa) and surprise guest Molly Magill (USA) to explore how MI has changed the way we think about and work with addictions and addictive behaviours. The conversation meandered into a range of areas from about how we hold people in mind and in heart to do we need the word "treatment" anymore.2021-11-081h 51Motivational Interviewing & BeyondDoes Listening Save Time?In this MIB episode David Rosengren, Margo Bristow and Onna Brewer join in and try to answer Steve's question: Does Listening Save Time? We spent a lot of time talking about listening. 2021-08-201h 33Motivational Interviewing & BeyondBehaviour Change: Is That All That Matters?Welcome. In this episode Steve, Joel and guests have a well rounded conversation about change. We explore the limitations and unearth question about focusing only behaviour change as an acceptable outcome. Heather Flynn, Kathy Goumas and others join in the conversation to help connect some of the dots and deepen our understanding of what it means to help others. Steve also does some foreshadowing of the fourth edition of the Motivational Interviewing.2021-07-211h 52Motivational Interviewing & BeyondCompassion Fatigue: What's Going On Here?In the episode Steve, Joel and guests Stan, Brendan and others explore the upper limits of caring for others. We talk about Compassion Focused Therapy, self-compassion, compassion vs. empathy, therapist shame, vicarious trauma and more. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it!2021-06-291h 49Motivational Interviewing & BeyondVirtual Training and Learning In The Time of COVID: Where To From Here?In this episode we explored the universe of virtual learning and training with Susan Dopart (USA) and Ken McMaster (New Zealand) . How has COVID fast tracked and required us to adapt to a new teaching, training and learning environment? We were also joined by Pip Mason, Steve Berg-Smith and Onna Brewer to further explore the personal challenges of moving from training in the room to training in cyberspace. 2021-04-271h 44Motivational Interviewing & BeyondSupporting Autonomy: How Long is a Piece of String?In this episode Joel and Steve are joined by Russell Calderwood (Wales), Fredrik Eliasson (Sweden), Margo Bristow (USA) and Brendan Murphy (Ireland) to take deep dive in role of supporting autonomy while helping people change. 2021-04-101h 33Motivational Interviewing & BeyondGiving Advice & Feedback: Sport, School and BeyondThis episode starts with Madtv 's clip Stop It with Bob Newhart and Mo Collins. Afterwards, Joel and Steve are joined by colleagues Andrew Brownhill, Orla Adams and Judith Carpenter to explore what advice and feedback actually are. Is it a task to be done, a skill to learn or art form? Steve provides a live demonstration of he offers advice and feedback. There are questions and comments from the audience 2021-04-081h 33Motivational Interviewing & BeyondSport and EmpathyThis Episode focuses in on the role of empathy in sport. We had three guests that are involved with working with professional athletes who are trying to change the culture of who athletes both young and old are treated by coaches. Does empathy have a place in sport? How can empathy support optimal performance? Is coaching about more than just winning? 2021-04-081h 43Motivational Interviewing & BeyondListening in a Time of UncertaintyOur flagship episode of Motivational Interviewing & Beyond (MIB) was focused on the importance of listening in this time of uncertainty. As we found our way into learning how to do a webinar and inviting people to join, we covered a lot conversational ground. 2021-04-082h 12Motivational Interviewing & BeyondHesitating? COVID Vaccination and How to Approach AmbivalenceSteve and Joel have a robust conversations with experts in vaccinology, diabetes, motivational interviewing and general medicine on vaccinations, ambivalence and hesitancy. There is a MI demonstration of how to approach the topic and questions from the audience in this episode. 2021-04-052h 06Motivational Interviewing & BeyondThe Therapeutic Cocktail: Can Blending Approaches Lead to Better Outcomes?Joel and Steve along with Allan Zuckoff, Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Kathy Goumas explore the topic of psychotherapy integration. This lively conversation covers a lot ground from the history of therapy integration to what makes an effective therapist. There are spontaneous appearances and questions from the audience. 2021-04-052h 01