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So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For PeopleFinding the Balance: Understanding and Supporting NextGen Lawyers (with Associate Professor of Law, Jonah Perlin)In this episode, Megan & Jen are joined by Jonah Perlin, associate professor of law at Georgetown University, to chat about legal education, career development, and navigating the evolving legal industry. Jonah shares insights from his extensive experience teaching and mentoring students, as well as his reflections on the changing landscape of law firms and law schools. With a career that spans both private practice and academia, Jonah discusses the challenges and opportunities faced by Gen Z in law, the impact of the pandemic on legal education, and why career paths don’t always follow a straight line. He also sh...2025-05-2241 min
Status Check with SpiveyThe Differences Between College & Law School, with "How I Lawyer" Host Jonah PerlinIn this episode of Status Check with Spivey, Mike interviews How I Lawyer podcast host Jonah Perlin on some of the many differences between college and law school, from cold calls to being graded on a curve to the nature of attending a professional school and more.
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How I Lawyer #134: Mike Spivey - On Law School Rankings, Admissions, and Mental Health (Mike's episode on Jonah's podcast)
Dear 1L: The Book by Amanda Haverstick (book mentioned in the episode)
Dear 1L with Amanda Haverstick (Status Check...2024-09-1035 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#133: Regan Smith - Copyright LawyerIn today’s episode I speak with Regan Smith, who is Senior Vice President and General Counsel at the New/Media Alliance as well as an Adjunct Professor at GW Law where she teaches copyright law. Regan is a trustee of The Copyright Society of the U.S.A and the Chair of the ABA’s Copyright Legislation Committee.
Before joining New/Media Alliance, she worked as the Head of Public Policy in Spotify’s Government Affairs group and spent seven years working at the United States Copyright Office including three years as General Counsel of the Copyri...2024-03-2937 min
The Newfangled LawyerEpisode 27: The Power of Personal Narrative with Jonah PerlinIn this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with guest Jonah Perlin to explore the windy road of the professional journey. Jonah, the host of "How I Lawyer," shares insightful perspectives on how lawyers can navigate their professional paths with flexibility and resilience.
They discuss the evolving roles of fathers in the legal profession and society, challenging traditional perceptions and embracing the idea of being an active, present parent. Jonah reflects on his experiences in private practice, transitioning to academia, and the surprising journey of launching and sustaining his podcast. They touch...2024-03-1854 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#132: Lawyers Behaving Badly Podcast Hosts, Karen Delaney and Jennifer JudgeWelcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
This episode features the hosts of the Lawyers Behaving Badly Podcast, Karen Delaney and Jennifer Judge. Karen is the Principal of Delaney Legal PLLC, where she serves corporate clients. Before founding her law firm, Karen worked as in-house counsel at Half Price Books and GameStop and as an associate at a law firm in Dallas. Jennifer is the Chief Legal Officer of Destination Pet, LLC, and bef...2024-03-0151 min
Lawyers in the Making PodcastE27: Jonah Perlin Host of the How I Lawyer Podcast and Associate Professor at Georgetown LawJonah is a Georgetown University Law Center Graduate and Currently works as an Associate Professor of Law for Legal Practice at Georgetown Law. In this fascinating crossover episode, two legal podcasters join forces to delve into the depths of the legal world. Jonah and I explored his journey to the law, uncovering the motivations behind his career choice, and delving into the significance of establishing effective study and writing processes. Additionally, Jonah shared invaluable tips he imparts to his students for enhancing their legal writing skills. Jonah's emphasis on persistently tackling areas of struggle and putting in the necessary...2024-02-271h 07How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#131: Rachael Bosch – Professional Development Expert for LawyersWelcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
Today’s guest is Rachael Bosch, the CEO and Founder of Fringe Professional Development (a leading professional development provider for lawyers and executives) and Candorly (an online tool to make gathering upward feedback easy and efficient). Before becoming a legal tech Founder, Rachael worked in recruiting and development at top law firms, including Paul Hastings and Skadden, and before that, she was a professional actress and sing...2024-02-0954 min
The Tech Savvy LawyerEpisode 80: Where Are Lawyers And Law Students With Technology Today With Jonah PerlinJonah Perlin, an Associate Professor of Law at Georgetown Law and former litigator at Williams & Connolly LLP, brings his expertise to today's The Tech Savvy Lawyer podcast episode. With his background in civil litigation, he launched the How I Lawyer Podcast in January 2021, aiming to share insights from legal professionals to law students and lawyers alike. Jonah and I discuss how technology reshapes legal education, practice, and ethics. We further explore the importance of legal tech skills for law students in navigating the evolving job market. Additionally, we examine the integration of AI in legal education and...2024-01-0953 min
Inside The InspiredJonah Perlin on How to Grow Your Podcast and the Future of Law PodcastingAre you looking to improve your public speaking and your life? Are looking for a coach to help you increase your confidence and help you become your best self. Click this link to start your journey today: https://calendly.com/insidetheinspire...
This week's episode features the host of the How I Lawyer Podcast and Georgetown Law Professor Jonah Perlin. Jonah tells all about how to grow your podcast, what makes a great podcaster, the future of podcasting and law, how AI will effect the industry and more!
📲 Looking to improve your Public Speaking? Click this link to access my cou...2023-12-3152 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#128: How I Lawyer LIVE – Positive Lawyering in the Practice of Law with Eli Albrecht and Jordana ConfinoWelcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
For today’s special episode (and the final episode of 2023), we bring to you How I Lawyer’s first-ever live-recorded episode featuring former guests of the podcast, Eli Albrecht and Jordana Confino, in a discussion about positive lawyering in the practice of law.
This episode was recorded LIVE at DLA Piper’s Offices in Washington D.C. with the support of sponsors Lateral Hub, LawPods...2023-12-2959 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#127: Michelle Kallen – Appellate Partner and Former Virginia Solicitor GeneralWelcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
Today’s guest is Michelle Kallen, who is a Partner in Jenner & Block’s Supreme Court and Appellate practice and previously served as the seventh Solicitor General for the Commonwealth of Virginia. After graduating from Vanderbilt University Law School, Michelle clerked on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and then worked as a Litigation Associate at Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP and Paul, Weiss...2023-12-1547 min
The HLEP Podcast“Careers Only Make Sense Backwards” - Jonah Perlin, Georgetown Law Professor & How I Lawyer Podcast HostOn episode 25, we speak to Jonah Perlin, the Georgetown Law School professor & host of the “How I Lawyer” podcast. We learn about Jonah’s story, his experiences running his podcast, and the major lessons learned from interviewing over 130 lawyers. Whether or not you’re a law student, a junior associate or a lawyer well into the heart of your career, this episode is definitely for you!
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More on HLEP at clinics.law.harvard.edu/hlep2023-06-161h 01How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#097: Jonah Perlin - Law Professor and How I Lawyer Host (Interviewed by Personal Jurisdiction)In this final episode of 2022, I decided to share a little bit about how I lawyer. Yes, after 96 episodes as your host, I thought it fitting to end year 2 of the podcast with a little bit more about what I do, why I do it, and how I do it well (or try to). As the host of the show I really like finding interesting guests and asking the questions. I am a bit weary about being the guest. But a few months ago my friends at the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (Hallie Ritzu & Allison Freedman) asked if I would come...2022-12-3059 min
Personal JurisdictionLet's Get Personal with Jonah Perlin, Georgetown Law Professor and How I Lawyer Podcast HostJonah Perlin teaches legal practice and advanced legal writing courses at Georgetown Law as a full-time Associate Professor of Law, Legal Practice. Before teaching at Georgetown Law, Jonah worked at Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington, D.C. where he specialized in complex civil litigation in the United States and abroad. While at Williams & Connolly he also taught advanced legal writing at the Law Center as an Adjunct Professor. Professor Perlin clerked for Chief Judge Robert A. Katzmann of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle of the U.S. District Court...2022-10-2559 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#083: Megan Cacace - Civil Rights Lawyer & Technology Anti-Discrimination AdvocateIn today’s episode, I speak with Megan Cacace who is a civil rights lawyer and anti-discrimination advocate focused on the intersection of civil rights and technology. She currently serves as the Director of Anti-Discrimination & Equity Programs at Airbnb. Previously she worked as a civil rights lawyer at the law firm of Relman Colfax for almost 14 years. In that role, in addition to plaintiff-side civil rights litigation, she worked on civil rights audits including Facebook’s 2020 Audit. Before joining Relman Colfax, she was a Fellow at the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights. She started her career as a law clerk...2022-09-3043 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#082: Mauricio Noroña - Immigration LawyerIn today's episode I speak with Professor Mauricio Noroña who is a Visiting Clinical Assistant Professor of Law at the Kathryn O. Greenberg Immigration Justice Clinic at Cardozo Law School. In that role, he supervises Clinic students on individual and impact litigation matters and drives large-scale immigration policy advocacy projects. Before joining the clinic, Noroña was the supervising attorney at African Services Committee where he led a team providing comprehensive legal services to immigrants and asylum seekers in New York City, and before that he worked as a solo immigration law practitioner. In law school, he was a Ha...2022-09-2244 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#081: M.C. Sungaila - California Appellate Lawyer & Portia Project Podcast HostIn today's episode I speak with M.C. Sungaila who is an Orange County-based shareholder and leader of the appellate practice at Buchalter. M.C. has briefed and argued appeals in a number of different practice areas at the California Supreme Court and throughout the country. She has won numerous awards including California Lawyer of the Year from California Lawyer Magazine and the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. In addition to her practice, M.C. is active in pro bono and professional organizations. Among them, she is the co-chair of the Appellate Practice Committee for the ABA & is active...2022-09-1642 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#080: Paresh Patel - Appellate Federal Public DefenderIn today's episode I speak with Paresh Patel who is currently the Chief of Appeals at the Office of the Federal Defender for the District of Maryland where he has worked for the past 18 years. In this role he represents clients on post conviction matters including direct appeal and federal habeas. He also assists trial attorneys on complex legal issues that arise in their cases.
In our conversation we discuss his path to becoming a public defender, the unique role of an appellate lawyer in the federal criminal system, the ways criminal law and criminal prosecutors have...2022-09-0951 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#079: Micah Gibson - International Tax DirectorIn today’s episode I speak with my dear friend Micah Gibson who is an International Tax Director at Big 4 accounting firm PWC based in Washington, D.C. In this role, Micah helps global businesses structure their tax arrangements to support their strategic goals. He joined PWC more than 8 years ago after completing his JD and LLM in Tax from Georgetown Law. During his time at Georgetown he was an extern for Judge Albert G. Lauber on the United States Tax Court.
In our conversation we talk about what makes tax such a unique area of practice, why...2022-09-0146 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#078: Alé Dalton - Healthcare Transactional Attorney & First Gen LawyerIn today’s episode I speak with Alé Dalton who is an associate at Bradley LLP’s Nashville Office. Her practice focuses on healthcare transactional work where she provides counsel during mergers and acquisitions, as well as guiding clients through issues that arise from the complex nature of operating in a highly regulated industry. She also advises clients in matters involving clinical research and telemedicine. Beyond her healthcare industry work she is committed to doing pro bono and helping to meet the legal service gaps in the state by staffing community legal clinics. In addition to being active in Bradl...2022-08-2649 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#077: Christine E. Webber - Plaintiffs' Class Action Employment & Civil Rights LawyerIn today’s episode I speak with Christine E. Webber who is a leading plaintiff-side class-action civil rights & employment attorney. Christine is a Partner and Co-Chair of the Civil Rights & Employment practice group at Cohen Milstein. In this role, she represents victims of discrimination and wage and hour violations in class and collective actions. She has represented clients in some of the largest, groundbreaking discrimination and Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) class and collective actions in the United States. She has been recognized with numerous of awards for her work and has served as a leader in a number of...2022-08-1848 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#076: Kobie Flowers - Civil Rights & Criminal Defense LawyerIn today’s episode I speak with civil rights and criminal defense lawyer Kobie Flowers, who represents the wrongly accused and the wrongly convicted. He is a Partner at Brown, Goldstein & Levy in Washington, D.C.
Kobie is a trial lawyer’s trial lawyer. He started his career in the Attorney General’s Honors Program where he worked as civil rights prosecutor at the United States Department of Justice with a focus on prosecution of police brutality. After he completed his time at DOJ, Kobie worked as an Assistant Federal Defender in Baltimore where he represented clients in a nu...2022-08-1058 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#075: Kirk Nahra - Experienced Privacy & Cybersecurity LawyerIn today’s episode I speak with experienced privacy and cybersecurity lawyer Kirk Nahra. Kirk is a Partner at WilmerHale in Washington, D.C. where he chairs the firm’s Big Data and Cybersecurity & Privacy Practices. He has been a leading authority on privacy and cybersecurity matters for more than two decades and is ranked in Band 1 by Chambers in both privacy and data security. In 2021, he received the Vanguard Award from the International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP) for his exceptional leadership, knowledge, and creativity in privacy and data protection. He counsels clients across industries from Fortune 500 companies to s...2022-08-0354 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#074: Evan Rothstein - IP & Web3 LawyerIn this week's episode I speak with Evan Rothstein who is an intellectual property and trade secrets attorney in Arnold & Porter’s Denver Office. Evan maintains both an active trial practice as well as providing strategic advice guiding companies on the development, protection, and enforcement of intellectual property assets. He has experience across a broad range of technologies and recently has gained significant experience guiding clients on cutting-edge matters involving cryptocurrency and NFTs including setting up marketplaces, advising on intellectual property rights in digital assets, and forming entities for the creation of digital art.
In 2021, Evan launched TM...2022-07-2848 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#073: Vivek Jayaram - Lawyer for InnovatorsIn this week's episode I speak with Vivek Jayaram who is an attorney, entrepreneur, and founder of Jayaram Law which has the tagline of "lawyers for innovators." Vivek and his team work with creatives, brands, venture-backed companies, and entrepreneurs on new and cutting edge projects. Specifically he advise companies, creatives, and entrepreneurs around the world on IP and corporate law issues & disputes, with an emphasis on new technology, Web3, NFTs, art, fashion, and other cool and interesting things.
Before starting his own firm, Vivek was a law clerk to Judge Adalberto Jordan formerly of the US District C...2022-07-2152 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#072: D. Todd Smith & Jody Sanders - Texas Appellate Lawyers & Podcast Hosts of the Texas Appellate Law PodcastIn today’s episode I speak with not one but two Texas appellate lawyers, Jody Sanders and D. Todd Smith. You may know them as the co-hosts of the Texas Appellate Law Podcast which is a weekly podcast dedicated to demystifying the appellate process and encourage best practices in litigation and appeals.
But that is just their side hustle. In his day job, Jody Sanders is a Partner at Kelly Hart where he represents clients at all stages of litigation in trial courts throughout Texas, as well as appeals and original proceedings in Texas's intermediate courts of app...2022-07-1456 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#071: Helam Gebremariam - Cravath Litigation Partner & Former DOJ Senior CounselIn today’s episode I speak with Helam Gebremariam who is a Litigation Partner at Cravath, Swain, & Moore in New York City where her practice focuses on antitrust litigation, contractual disputes, securities and shareholder derivative suits, and investigations. She is also deeply committed to doing pro bono work and serves as an Executive Board Member of the New York University Law Alumni of Color Association, as a member of the Board of Directors of the Immigrant Justice Corps, and on the Board of Trustees of the Vera Institute of Justice. She is the first Black woman litigation partner in the...2022-06-3050 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#070: Bradford Hardin - Banking & FinTech Services LawyerIn this episode I speak with Bradford Hardin who chairs Davis Wright Tremaine’s national banking and financial services practice where he frequently supports banks, credit unions, and innovative FinTech companies through high-risk examinations and enforcement investigations at the state and federal levels. Bradford also advises on regulatory compliance and new product development. In his career, he has worked with large banks and fast-moving challengers alike in developing innovative new products, overcoming regulatory barriers, and getting to market. Bradford started his career as a Law Clerk in the Middle District of Alabama and then worked at WilmerHale in its DC...2022-06-1549 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#069: David Sparks (MacSparky) - "Country Doctor" Lawyer Turned Productivity and Consumer Technology ExpertIn this episode I speak with David Sparks who is known in internet circles as MacSparky. For more than 28 years, David was a business law attorney first at George & Shields, LLP and then more recently at his own law firm called Sparks Law based in Irvine, California. But in perhaps a first for the How I Lawyer podcast, I invited David on the show knowing full well that he recently left the practice of law altogether. In addition to being a lawyer, over the past fifteen years David has also become a recognized expert in consumer technology (including, but...2022-06-0846 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#068: Doron J. Gold - Lawyer Turned Therapist to Lawyers (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. This is the final episode in this series. Thanks to the Personal Jurisdiction team for joining me in this important work.
In this week's episode I speak with Doron Gold who is a psychotherapist and former practicing lawyer (primarily in the area of family law) from Toronto, Canada. Doron works primarily with lawyers, law students, and judges as well as other professionals. His personal...2022-05-3147 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#067: Dr. Diana Uchiyama - Executive Director of the Illinois Lawyers' Assistance Program (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. This is episode #4 in this collaboration. Learn more here.**
In today’s episode, Personal Jurisdiction hosts Hallie Ritzu and Allison Freedman speak with Dr. Diana Uchiyama who is a lawyer & psychologist helping people struggling with mental health and substance use issues as the the Executive Director of the Illinois Lawyers' Assistance Program.
Dr. Diana was previously the Administrator of Psychological Services for DuP...2022-05-2447 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#066: Brian Cuban - Attorney, Author, & Addiction Recovery Advocate (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.**
In today’s episode I speak with Brian Cuban. Brian is a Dallas-based attorney, keynote speaker, writer, and addiction recovery advocate. Brian has been in long-term recovery from alcohol, cocaine and bulimia since April of 2007. Brian is well known and speaks across the country at law schools & law firms both to tell his story and to offer advice on how our pr...2022-05-1753 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#065: Bridgette Carr and Vivek Sankaran - Designing a Fulfilling Life as a Lawyer (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.**
In today’s episode Personal Jurisdiction hosts Hallie Ritzu and Allison Freedman speak with University of Michigan Law Professors Bridgette Carr and Vivek Sankaran.
Bridgette Carr is a Clinical Professor of Law and the Associate Dean for Strategic Initiatives at the University of Michigan Law School. She is also the founding director of the Law School’s Human Trafficking Clin...2022-05-1059 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#064: Heidi Brown - Expert on Introversion, Fear, and Performance in the Legal Profession (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.**
In today’s episode I speak with Professor Heidi Brown who is the Director of the Legal Writing Program at Brooklyn Law School. Having grappled with extreme performance anxiety as a law student, attorney, and new law professor, Heidi ultimately untangled her fears, and embraced authenticity as a powerful asset in teaching and practicing law. She is the author of two fa...2022-05-0353 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#063: Fabio Bertoni - Media Lawyer & General Counsel of The New Yorker MagazineIn this episode I speak with Fabio Bertoni who is the General Counsel at The New Yorker Magazine and an experienced media lawyer. Previously he served as an Assistant General Counsel at HarperCollins, a Deputy General Counsel at ALM Media, and as an associate at two different New York City law firms. He also serves as an adjunct professor at Fordham Law School and at NYU.
In our conversation we discussed his path from journalist to a lawyer who works with journalists; the process, decision, and value of getting a dual degree; the importance of law school c...2022-04-2737 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#062: Danielle Citron - Law Professor, Privacy Scholar & MacArthur Genius FellowIn this episode I speak with Professor Danielle Citron who is the Jefferson Scholars Foundation Schenck Distinguished Professor in Law and Caddell and Chapman Professor of Law at the University of Virginia Law School, where she writes and teaches about privacy, free expression, and civil rights. She is the recipient of numerous awards including the MacArthur Genius Grant in 2019 for her work on cyberstalking and intimate privacy. She also serves as the inaugural director of the school’s LawTech Center.
She is a gifted teacher and prolific writer including two books Hate Crimes in Cyberspace and the fo...2022-04-2052 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#061: Sara Y. Razi - Antitrust LawyerIn this episode I speak with Sara Y. Razi who is the Global Co-Chair of the Antitrust and Trade Regulation Practice at Simpson Thacher. She joined the firm's Washington D.C. office in 2013 after serving as a senior official at the Federal Trade Commission for nearly a decade. Sara has been recognized as a Leading Lawyer by the Legal 500 and was ranked one of the Top 250 Women in Litigation in the United States by Benchmark Litigation. In addition to advising clients in antitrust investigations and litigation as well as mergers, she serves co-chair of the Firm’s Pro Bono Co...2022-04-1442 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#060: Jay Harrington - Legal Business Development, Marketing, and PR ExpertIn this episode I speak with Jay Harrington who is one of the country’s leading consultants and strategists in the areas of legal marketing, PR, and business development. His consulting work includes helping clients define strong market positioning, develop effective thought-leadership strategies, gain visibility through public relations, and generate new business through the execution of marketing tactics. In addition to running his own agency, he is the author of three books (The Productivity Pivot, the Essential Associate, and One of a Kind) that teach lawyers how to develop their business, manage their time, and stand out both in th...2022-04-0851 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#059: Jean Lee - President & CEO of the Minority Corporate Counsel AssociationIn this episode I speak with Jean Lee who is the President and CEO of the Minority Corporate Counsel Association (MCCA), the nation's leading organization focused on hiring, promoting and retaining women and diverse attorneys by providing cutting-edge research, best practices, and training.
Prior to joining MCCA, Jean served as Vice President and Assistant General Counsel at JP Morgan Chase & Co. where she worked on consumer litigation and regulatory matters. Before joining JP Morgan Chase & Co. in 2011, she worked on litigation matters at a boutique litigation firm in New York City. She started her career as a...2022-03-3045 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#058: Abigail Kohlman - Investigations Lawyer with Extensive Pro Bono PracticeIn this episode I speak with Abigail Kohlman who is a Counsel at Akin Gump in its Washington D.C. Office. Abby’s practice focuses on representing corporate and individual clients in internal and government-facing investigations including criminal, congressional, and regulatory proceedings. She also has experience counseling clients in a variety of white collar defense matters, representing companies and individuals in a broad range of congressional inquiries, and trial experience in federal and state courts.
In addition to this work, she maintains an extensive pro bono practice. She started as an Akin Gump Pro Bono Scholar and in...2022-03-2543 min
The Thought Leadership ProjectEpisode 107: Jonah Perlin on Twitter, Podcasting, and Becoming a Law School Professor
We had our first law school professor join the podcast as a guest, and Jay was worried that he was going to get subjected to the Socratic Method. In this week’s episode, Jonah Perlin, former Williams & Connolly associate and now Georgetown Law professor, talks with Jay and Tom about: - The robust legal community on Twitter- How he got into podcasting and what he’s learned (and gained) in the process- What other lawyers need to know about becoming a law school professor
Reading & ResourcesConnect with...2022-03-2200 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#057: Jesse Mosier - Startup Lawyer with a Focus on Latin AmericaIn this episode I speak with Jesse Mosier who is currently the General Counsel at Migo, a financial technology company that offers embedded lending and credit solutions in emerging markets. He spoke with me in his personal capacity about his career path and what he has learned along the way. Prior to joining Migo, Jesse was a corporate and financial transaction attorneys focused on Latin American startups and venture capital at Gunderson Dettmer in San Francisco and an associate at Cleary Gottlieb in both the firm's New York and Sao Paulo offices. Prior to law school, Jesse worked in...2022-03-1649 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#056: John B. Quinn - Prominent Litigator & Founder of Quinn EmanuelIn this episode I speak with John B. Quinn who is one of the world’s top trial lawyers and also the founder of one of its top law firms. Bloomberg has described John as one of the “most famous practicing lawyers in the world.” During his career, he has represented numerous major companies and prominent individuals in important cases across practically every area of legal practice. Quinn Emanuel, the litigation-only firm which John co-founded in 1986 with three other attorneys, is one of the world's most successful and profitable law firms and boasts more than 800 litigators worldwide.
In our...2022-03-1134 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#055: Emily Dunlap - Attorney for Trafficked and Exploited PersonsIn this episode I speak with Emily Dunlap who is a Senior Staff Attorney at Advocating Opportunity in Columbus, Ohio, an organization dedicated to providing comprehensive, holistic, trauma-responsive legal and support services to persons who have experienced sex and labor trafficking. In her practice she focuses specifically on immigration law, post-conviction relief, family law, housing issues, and other civil matters. She is also as an educational and organizational resource who conducts trainings on anti-human trafficking activities.
Emily started her career as a post-graduate Greif Fellow in Juvenile Human Trafficking at the Ohio State University College of Law f...2022-03-0242 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#054: Panel Opinion - Oral Argument Techniques from Judge Patricia Millett, Joe Palmore, and Prof. Tiffany WrightWelcome back to How I Lawyer! In most episodes of the How I Lawyer Podcast I interview individual lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. This special episode is the fourth in a series called "Panel Opinion" where I bring together experts on a particular topic. In this episode I discuss the important topic of oral argument with a superstar panel including Judge Patricia Millett, Joe Palmore, and Professor Tiffany Wright for this discussion. Judge Patricia Millett is currently a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C...2022-02-2253 min
The Study Legal English PodcastE117: Jonah Perlin - Persuasive Legal Writing (Interview)🗒️ About this episode:
In this episode, I interview Jonah Perlin, Georgetown Law professor of legal practice and advanced legal writing. We talk about Jonah's background teaching English and working on international complex commercial litigation as an attorney. We talk about aspects of persuasive writing including theory of case, and logos, pathos, and ethos.
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Legal Writing Ins...2022-02-2155 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#053: Robert Ingalls - Legal Podcast Producer, Trained Lawyer, and Small Business OwnerIn this episode I speak with Robert Ingalls who is the Founder and Chief Strategist at LawPods—a company that produces branded podcasts for some of the premier law firms in the world. I have gotten to know Rob over the past several months since LawPods started editing the How I Lawyer Podcast and became a sponsor of the show. If you are interested in lawyers that choose to pivot from the everyday practice of law or if you have ever been curious about why lawyers might want to podcast or how to try it yourself, this is the ep...2022-02-1653 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#052: Jason Bennett - Energy / Global Projects LawyerIn this episode I speak with Jason Bennett who is a Partner at Baker Botts in Houston, Texas where he serves as the firm-wide chair of the Global Projects Practice as well as co-head of the firm’s Energy Sector leadership group. Specifically, his practice focuses on the development and financing of gas & hydrogen, as well as carbon capture utilization and storage (CCUS). In this role, Jason assists clients with developing and structuring investments and joint ventures in the energy sector through project agreements and venturing vehicles, as well as acquisitions and sales of interests in energy projects. Before la...2022-02-0848 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#051: Chief Justice Harold Melton - Former Chief Justice, Georgia State Supreme Court; Partner at Troutman PepperHappy New Year! After some time to reset in January, I am happy to say welcome back to YEAR 2 of the How I Lawyer Podcast. YEAR 1 included 50 episodes and 49,500 downloads. I am so excited to see what YEAR 2 brings.
In this episode I speak with Chief Justice Harold Melton who is the Former Chief Justice of the Georgia State Supreme Court and a current partner at Troutman Pepper based in Atlanta where his practice focuses on complex litigation matters. Prior to serving on the bench for sixteen years, Justice Melton served as executive counsel to Georgia Governor S...2022-02-0143 min
How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#050: Tiffany Graves & Ellyn Haikin Josef - Pro Bono CounselIn Episode #050, the final episode of the first year of the How I Lawyer Podcast, I speak with not one but two incredible law firm pro bono counsels about their careers and how to integrate pro bono work into any legal practice.
My first guest is Tiffany Graves who is Pro Bono Counsel at Bradley where she runs the firm's pro bono programs across ten offices. Prior to joining Bradley, Tiffany was the Executive Director of the Mississippi Access to Justice Commission an organization created by the Mississippi Supreme Court in order to improve access to civil j...2021-12-2948 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#049: David J. Ribner - CFIUS and International Trade Compliance LawyerIn this episode I speak with David J. Ribner who is a CFIUS and international trade compliance lawyer in the Washington D.C. Office of O'Melveny & Myers LLP. His practice focuses on counseling clients in the United States and abroad on regulatory matters including securing national security clearances by CFIUS (Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States) as well as counseling clients on compliance with U.S. economic sanctions, export controls, customs laws, and the FCPA (Foreign Corrupt Practices Act). David has been recommended as a leading lawyer for international trade by The Legal 500 US and recognized as an...2021-12-2836 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#048: Adam Yoffie - Pharmaceutical Industry Investigations & Litigation CounselIn this episode I speak with my friend Adam Yoffie who is currently Senior Counsel for Litigation & Government Investigations at Bristol Myers Squibb based in Princeton, New Jersey. Before going to Bristol Myers Squibb, Adam was a trial attorney for the Health Care Fraud Strike Force at the United States Department of Justice and an Associate at Williams & Connolly, LLP in Washington DC. He started his legal career as a law clerk to Judge Anita Brody of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania and Judge Morton Greenberg of United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.
Before...2021-12-2333 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#047: Austin King - Government Attorney at Federal Trade CommissionIn this episode I speak with my dear friend and former co-clerk, Austin King. Austin is currently the Associate General Counsel for Rulemaking at the Federal Trade Commission. I conducted this interview when Austin was in his former role at the FTC as Attorney Advisor to Chairwoman Rebecca Kelly Slaughter. Before joining the FTC in 2018, Austin was a counsel at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and an attorney at the nonprofit Better Markets, Inc.
Before law school, Austin was an elected official serving as an alderperson in his hometown of Madison, Wisconsin. He also worked for the...2021-12-2137 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#046: Rebecca Blake Chaikin - Bankruptcy and Restructuring Attorney**Rebecca Blake Chaikin is currently a Partner at Jackson Walker in Houston, Texas**
In this episode I speak with Rebecca Blake Chaikin who at the time of her interview was a Partner at Kirkland & Ellis LLP in New York City where she practices in the areas of corporate restructuring, bankruptcy, and financial distress. Before attending law school at NYU, Rebecca was a paralegal at Kramer Levin in New York and a Legislative Assistant at the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism in Washington, D.C.
In our conversation we discuss her path to becoming a b...2021-12-1550 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#045: Gabriel Teninbaum - Legal Innovation and Productization ExpertIn this episode I speak with Professor Gabriel Teninbaum who is the Assistant Dean of Innovation, Strategic Initiatives & Distance Education at Suffolk University Law School and Professor of Legal Writing. He teaches, writes, speaks, and consults on the technology of law and recently published the book Productizing Legal Work: Providing Legal Expertise at Scale and runs the Lawtomatic newsletter which I strongly recommend for anyone interested in legal tech. In addition to his work at Suffolk, Gabe is a Visiting Fellow at the Yale Information Security Project and the Founder and CEO of Spaced Repetition Systems LLC. Prior to...2021-12-0846 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#044: Jeremy Siegel - Cannabis AttorneyIn this episode I speak with Jeremy Siegel who is the Vice President for Compliance & Legal Risk at Eaze which is one of the largest cannabis delivery services in the country. Prior to joining Eaze, Jeremy worked as a litigation attorney, e-discovery project manager, and law clerk to Magistrate Judge John Facciola on the District Court for the District of Columbia and for Judge Richard Eaton on the United States Court of International Trade.
In our conversation we discuss his twisting and turning path to working in the cannabis industry, graduating law school in the middle of t...2021-12-0333 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#043: How I Mentor (Special) - Introducing the Legal Mentor Network with Executive Director Chrystal MauroIn this week's special mini-episode I speak with Chrystal Mauro about the newly founded Legal Mentor Network where she serves as Executive Director. The Legal Mentor Network (full disclosure: I sit on the Board of Directors) is a new, non-profit, FREE mentorship program connecting law students and recently barred attorneys to more senior members of our profession. Like the How I Lawyer Podcast, the Legal Mentor Network seeks to provide alternative channels for the informal networking that we know is so important to the future of our profession especially during such challenging times.
The brain child of B...2021-12-0213 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#042: Suzanne Levy Friedman - Medical Devices AttorneyIn this episode I speak with Suzanne Levy Friedman who is a Senior Associate in the Medical Devices and Technology Regulatory Group at Hogan Lovells in Washington, D.C.. In that role, Suzanne assists device companies in a wide range of activities across the life cycle of their products, including preparing regulatory submissions for clearance or approval of new devices, advising manufacturers on the lawful promotion and advertising of their devices, and addressing post-market enforcement issues.
She has a particular specialty in dealing with the FDA's evolving paradigm for software and digital health products, and she has h...2021-11-2341 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#041: Suchi Pahi - Data Privacy and Cybersecurity LawyerIn this episode I speak with Suchi Pahi who is a data privacy and cybersecurity lawyer who currently works as a Senior Privacy and Product Counsel at Databricks. She previously served as a Director of Privacy and Business Affairs and Acting Chief Privacy Officer at Rally Health and before that as an associate in the data privacy and cybersecurity practice groups at two major law firms: Greenberg Traurig and Baker Hostetler. She is a regular speaker on data security topics and holds her CIPP/US certification from the International Association of Privacy Professionals.
In our conversation we take a deep...2021-11-1945 min
Texas Appellate Law PodcastBuilding a Library of Law Practice Advice | Jonah PerlinThere are many different ways to practice law and many types of law to practice. Law students and young attorneys often don’t know where to turn for advice about their options. Luckily, in addition to his teaching and scholarship, Jonah Perlin, a Legal Practice Professor at Georgetown University Law Center, provides a unique resource for the public through his How I Lawyer Podcast. In this week’s episode, Jonah trades his role as a podcast host for that of a podcast guest. Sitting down with Todd Smith and Jody Sanders, Jonah shares his background and experiences as a law cle...2021-11-111h 02How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#040: Jared Knicley - Environmental LitigatorIn this episode I speak with Jared Knicley who is a senior attorney at the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) in Washington, DC. Jared's practice focuses on defending imperiled species, protecting communities from chemical spills, ensuring public access to government records, and enforcing federal environmental laws in courts across the country. Jared first joined NRDC as a Beagle Litigation Fellow after clerking for Judge Diana Gribbon Motz of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Baltimore and Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia where we were...2021-11-0338 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#039: Russ Feingold - Former US Senator and President of the American Constitution SocietyIn this episode I speak with Russ Feingold who is currently the President of the American Constitution Society, the country’s leading progressive legal organization. He previously served as a United States Senator for the state of Wisconsin for eighteen years and for ten years before that as State Senator in Wisconsin. He also served as the Special Envoy for the African Great Lakes and the Democratic Republic of the Congo and as a professor at several colleges and law schools. Russ is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin at Madison, Oxford University where he studied as a Rhod...2021-10-2037 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#038: Brian Potts - Big Firm Environment and Energy Lawyer, Inventor, and Author of The Jobless Lawyer's HandbookIn this episode I speak with Brian Potts. Brian is a Partner at Perkins Coie based in Madison, Wisconsin. He is an environment and energy lawyer with an active pro bono practice but is also an active speaker, writer, and serial entrepreneur (including inventing the LegalBoard (legalkeyboards.com), the world's first computer keyboard made just for lawyers). He is also deeply committed to demystifying the process of getting a legal job and helping young lawyers find their legal path. During the pandemic he has personally mentored hundreds of lawyers he met on LinkedIn and has started an informal lawyer me...2021-10-1343 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#037: Alex Su - Legal Tech Leader and Social Media MavenIn this episode I speak with Alex Su. Alex is currently the Head of Community Development at Ironclad, a digital contract management company. Before working at Ironclad, Alex was a Sales Team Lead and Director of Business Development at several other legal tech startups and before transitioning to the world of legal tech, Alex was an Associate at the New York law firm Sullivan and Cromwell and a law clerk in Chicago to federal district court Judge Edmond Chang.
In addition to Alex's work in the legal tech space he is perhaps most well known on TikTok (wh...2021-10-0642 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#036: Carl Cecere - Appellate Lawyer and Solo PractitionerIn this episode I speak with appellate lawyer Carl Cecere who owns his own firm in Dallas, Texas. Carl handles cases in state courts (including the Texas Supreme Court) as well as in federal courts of appeal and the United States Supreme Court. He represents clients at the certiorari stage, at the merits stage, as well as in filing amicus briefs.
Before opening his own firm seven years ago, Carl practiced appellate advocacy at Akin Gump in Washington, D.C. and Hankinson LLP in Texas. He began his career as a law clerk to Judge Mary Lou Ro...2021-09-2942 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#035: EJ Lee - Solo Trademark and Copyright AttorneyIn this episode I speak with EJ Lee who runs her own entertainment, copyright, and trademark law firm based in Atlanta, Georgia which services clients across the country. EJ has described her practice as where "creativity and legal protection collide" and her firm's motto is "be creatively legal." In addition to her client work, EJ also creates online courses in the area of trademark and copyright protection for those who need only limited legal assistance. She is active on social media (@EJLeeLaw on Twitter) and is famous for her "Referee With a Whistle" uniform. EJ is a graduate of Ka...2021-09-2136 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#034: David Lucking - Derivatives Lawyer and Head of Global International Capital Markets at Allen & OveryIn this episode I speak with David Lucking who is a Partner at Magic Circle law firm Allen & Overy where he was recently named Head of the firm's Global International Capital Markets Group and where his practice focuses on derivatives and structured finance transactions. David's career path embodies the international focus of his practice. He is a graduate of a King's College London, the Sorbonne, and Oxford and is now based in the firm's New York office and is the firm's first US-based Practice Group Head.. He is also the Global Co-Head of the law firm's LGBT+ allies program where he...2021-09-0937 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#033: Brant Martin - Commercial Trial LawyerIn this episode I speak with Brant Martin who is a civil litigator at the Texas-based law firm Wick Phillips where he has been a partner for the past 17 years. Before joining Wick Phillips and helping to grow the firm to more than 60 attorneys across multiple offices, Brant worked in Corporate and Securities Law at a Vault 50 law firm, as a corporate counsel at a startup in New York City, and as a plaintiff-side trial lawyer in Texas. He started his legal career as a law clerk to Chief Judge Schell of the Eastern District of Texas. Brant is a gr...2021-09-0150 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#032: Mike Yaghmai - Facebook's Head of Brand and Marketing LegalIn this episode I speak with Mike Yaghmai who is a Director and Associate General Counsel at Facebook where he heads up the company's legal work related to the company's brand and marketing. In this capacity Mike and his team are responsible for clearance, prosecution, and enforcement of the company's brand portfolio as well as the legal elements of Facebook's marketing policies. Before working at Facebook for the past 8 years, Mike worked at eBay for almost seven years and before that he worked as an intellectual property associate at Willdman Harrolld and then Howrey LLP. Mike is a Bay Ar...2021-08-2543 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#031: Panel Opinion (Special Edition) - Tools for Success for New 1LsWelcome back to How I Lawyer! Today's special episode is third in a series called "Panel Opinion" where I bring together experts on a particular topic (don't worry, there will be a new interview episode later this week or early next). Today's topic is on the mind of many How I Lawyer: how to succeed in your 1L year.
I am grateful to the three incredible professional academic success professionals who agreed to join me and share such incredible wisdom for those just starting their legal education:
Maura Demouy is the Director of Academic Success at Georgetown Law. At Georgetown, Ma...2021-08-1652 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#030: Cory Isaacson - Lawyer for Clients on Death RowIn this episode I speak with Cory Isaacson who works for the non-profit Georgia Resource Center where she represents indigent people on Georgia’s death row in their state and federal habeas corpus proceedings. Before coming to the Center, Cory was an attorney at Georgia Justice Project, where she represented people facing barriers to employment and housing because of their criminal history and advocated for reforms to the state’s record restriction laws in the legislature. Cory started her career in public interest lawyering as a student in and later an attorney and clinical supervisor at the Youth Defender Clinic...2021-08-0449 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#029: Panel Opinion (Special) - On-Campus Interviewing 2021In most episodes of the How I Lawyer Podcast I interview individual lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. This special episode is the second in a series called "Panel Opinion" where I bring together experts on a particular topic. This episode is focused on how to succeed in on-campus interviewing in 2021. In this episode we discuss the current state of the legal market. It is also chock full of information for those who are about to start interviewing with law firms, those who may interview at law firms in the future...2021-07-3048 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#028: Judge Robert Bacharach - Federal Appeals Court JudgeIn this episode I speak with Judge Robert Bacharach who is a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Prior to becoming a federal appeals court judge in 2013, Judge Bacharach served as a Magistrate Judge for the Western District of Oklahoma for 14 years and before that as a litigator at the Oklahoma City law firm of Crowe & Dunlevy. He has also served as an adjunct professor at the University of Oklahoma College of Law. Judge Bacharach started his legal career as a law clerk on the 10th Circuit for Judge Wi...2021-07-2145 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#027: Megan Siddall - White Collar Litigator, Founder and Managing Partner at Woman-Owned Litigation BoutiqueIn this episode I speak with Megan Siddall who is a founder and the managing partner of the women-owned, Boston-based, criminal litigation boutique Miner Siddall LLP. Her practice focuses primarily on white collar criminal defense and criminal appeals but she also has extensive experience in civil litigation and government enforcement actions. She has practiced in a number of different kinds of law firms including a large law firm in Washington, D.C. and a medium-sized litigation boutique in Boston. Megan started her career as a law clerk to Judge John G. Koeltl of the Southern District of New York. Sh...2021-07-1437 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#026: David Lat - Legal CommentatorIn this episode I speak with legal commentator David Lat. For more than a decade David has been one of the country's foremost legal commentators and legal bloggers. He started his legal blogging career with the blog Underneath Their Robes where he wrote about the federal judiciary pseudonymously. He then went on to found Above the Law (one the country's most well-known legal media blogs) which he led for more than ten years. After a brief period working in legal recruiting, David recently returned to writing about law and the legal profession full-time with his newsletter Original Jurisdiction (davidlat.su...2021-07-0747 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#025: Robert Tembeckjian - New York Chief Judicial Ethics Enforcement OfficerIn this episode I speak with Robert Tembeckjian, the Administrator and Counsel at the New York State Commission on Judicial Conduct. The Commission is the independent state agency responsible for reviewing complaints of ethical misconduct against the more than 3,000 judges and justices in the New York Unified Court System. As the Chief Judicial Ethics Enforcement Officer in New York, he runs the day-to-day operations for the commission and leads a team of more than 40 based in New York City, Albany and Rochester. He is also an important leader in the field of judicial ethics having worked for the Commission fo...2021-06-3051 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#024: Patrice Sulton - Criminal Justice Reformer, Civil Rights Lawyer, Legislative Drafter, and Non-Profit FounderIn this episode I speak with Patrice Sulton, the Founder and Executive Director of the DC Justice Lab, a nonprofit dedicated to researching, organizing, and advocating for large-scale change to Washington D.C.'s criminal justice system. Patrice not only has experience advocating for changes to the law. She has extensive experience actually rewriting these laws having served as a Senior Attorney Advisor to DC's Criminal Code Reform Commission, an independent agency within the District of Columbia government established to comprehensively revise the District’s Criminal Code. She also has experience representing clients in court and teaching both in the...2021-06-2339 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#023: Matthew Blumenstein - Litigation Finance Director and UnderwriterIn this episode I speak with Matt Blumenstein, the Head of Underwriting and Deputy General Counsel at Statera Capital, a leading commercial litigation financing firm based in Chicago, Illinois. At Statera, Matt is responsible for leading the firm's investment underwriting and confirmatory diligence process and acts as the firm's Deputy General Counsel. Before joining Statera last year, Matt was an associate at Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington, D.C. where he litigated civil and criminal cases. He started his career as a law clerk to Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson on the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C...2021-06-1457 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#022: Karen Vladeck - Employment Lawyer and PodcasterIn this episode I speak with Karen Vladeck, an employment lawyer at the law firm Wittliff Cutter PLLC based in Austin, Texas. Karen represents corporate, start-up, and non-profit clients in the resolution of employment disputes and counsels clients from many different industries on employment-related issues. Before moving to Texas, Karen practiced employment law at Arent Fox LLP in Washington, D.C. After graduating from the University of Miami Law School, Karen started her legal career as a law clerk to Judge Mary Ellen Barbera of the Court of Appeals of Maryland (Maryland's highest court). In addition to her practice, Kar...2021-06-0345 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#021: Panel Opinion (Special) - How To Succeed as a Legal Intern or Summer Associate (Especially in a Remote or Hybrid World)In most episodes of the How I Lawyer Podcast I interview individual lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
This special episode is a little bit different. It is the first in a new, occasional series called "Panel Opinion," where I host a panel of experts about a discreet topic as opposed to sharing the story of a single lawyer. In this episode, we tackle the question that is on the minds of many as we head into the summer: how can a law student succeed as a legal i...2021-06-0149 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#020: Collin Seguin - Insurance LawyerIn this episode I speak with Collin Seguin, an insurance lawyer and business executive at Travelers Insurance in Hartford, Connecticut. Collin currently serves as the Assistant Vice President and Regional Director for the Subrogation Major Case Unit where he leads a team that handles many of the most complex subrogation cases in the company. He has also served in many different roles in his 15-year tenure at Travelers including as an in-house litigation counsel, paralegal, and customer service's professional. He completed his JD at the University of Connecticut School of law in the evening while working full-time at Travelers as...2021-05-2746 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#019: Kannon Shanmugam - Supreme Court AdvocateIn this episode I speak with Kannon Shanmugam who is a Partner at Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP where he is both the Chair of the Supreme Court and Appellate Practice Group and the Managing Partner of the Washington D.C. office. Kannon is one of our generations most prominent and prolific Supreme Court advocates. He was recently named 2021 Appellate Litigator of the Year by Benchmark Litigation and has argued 32 cases before the United States Supreme Court. Prior to joining Paul Weiss, he spent ten years as a Partner at Williams & Connolly LLP and more than four years as an...2021-05-1139 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#018: Paul Grewal - Cryptocurrency Chief Legal Officer, Tech Lawyer, Former Magistrate JudgeIn this episode I speak with Paul Grewal who currently serves as the Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary at Coinbase, the leading cryptocurrency exchange in the United States where he and his team were recently responsible for overseeing the company's massively successful IPO. Before joining Coinbase in September 2020, Paul spent four years as a Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at Facebook. Before that, Paul was an accomplished intellectual property litigator, law firm partner, and federal Magistrate Judge in the Northern District of California. Early in Paul's legal career he served as a law clerk both in the No...2021-05-0444 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#017: Mark Joseph Stern - Legal JournalistIn this episode I speak with Mark Joseph Stern who is a legal analyst and the Supreme Court Correspondent for Slate magazine. He is also the author of the book, American Justice 2019: The Roberts Court Arrives. Mark is a graduate of Georgetown University and the Georgetown University Law Center. His writing is available at slate.com and @mjs_DC on Twitter.
In our conversation we discuss his path to legal journalism, the similarities and differences between writing as a lawyer and writing as a journalist, how he learns and writes about complex legal topics for non-legal audiences, th...2021-04-2653 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#016: Liz Glazer - Law Professor Turned Comedian and ActressIn this episode I speak with Liz Glazer who is a former lawyer and tenured law professor who is now a full-time, professional stand-up comedian and actress. Liz is graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Chicago Law School. After law school, she worked in the real estate department at Fried Frank in New York City before joining the faculty and receiving tenure at Hofstra University Law School. At Hofstra, her scholarship focused on issues facing the LGBTQ community. Her work is published in the Northwestern Law Review and the Georgetown Law Journal among others. But in...2021-04-1445 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#015: Pia Owens - In-House Technology LawyerIn this episode I speak with Pia Owens. Pia has worked as a technology lawyer at a big law firm, in state government, and now for a technology company based in Massachusetts where she is responsible for commercial agreements, software licensing, cybersecurity, and data privacy. Pia is a graduate of Brown University and Harvard Law. Before attending law school in her late 20s, Pia was a software engineer. In our conversation, we discuss how Pia handles new and complex cybersecurity regulatory regimes, how she drafts contracts, the differences between practicing as a technology layer in an in-house setting as outside cou...2021-03-3146 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#014: Ken Basin - Entertainment Lawyer and Business Affairs ExecutiveIn this episode I speak with Ken Basin. Ken is a seasoned Hollywood lawyer who is currently the Executive Vice President and Head of Business Affairs at Paramount Television Studios. He began his legal career at the law firm Greenberg Glusker where he practiced both litigation and transactional law as the Associate Chair of the Entertainment Department. After leaving the firm he became a business affairs executive at Amazon, then at Sony, and now at Paramount Television Studios. In addition to his practical experience in the field, Ken is the author of the book The Business of Television. He al...2021-03-2442 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#013: Tiffany Wright - Civil Rights Lawyer and Clinic DirectorIn this episode I speak with Tiffany Wright. Tiffany is the Co-Director of the Howard University Law School's Human and Civil Right's Clinic. Tiffany is a graduate of the University of Maryland and the Georgetown University Law Center where she completed her law degree at night while also serving as Editor-in-Chief of the Georgetown Law Journal's Annual Review of Criminal Procedure and working full time as a law clerk and paralegal at the United States Attorney's Office for the District of Maryland.
Before her position at Howard, Tiffany worked as an associate at two prominent DC law fi...2021-03-1640 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#012: Phil Weiser - Colorado Attorney GeneralIn this episode I speak with Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser about his career in public service. Attorney General Weiser is a graduate of Swarthmore College and NYU Law School. After graduation he clerked for Judge Ebel on the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit in Colorado and then on the United States Supreme Court for Justice White and Justice Ginsburg.
After completing his three clerkships he worked at the Department of Justice’s Antitrust Division for two years before returning to Colorado and entering academia at the University of Colorado Law School where he w...2021-03-0942 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#011: Joshua Fiveson - Military Lawyer and Former State Supreme Court and Federal Appellate Law ClerkIn this episode I speak with Lieutenant Joshua Fiveson, Senior Appellate Counsel in the Navy Judge Advocate General's Corps and former law clerk on the Texas State Supreme Court and the military's highest court, the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. In our conversation we discuss what it is like to be a military lawyer and the path to that career, what he learned from his clerkships (and how he thinks about applying for clerkships and how to succeed once there), and the importance of working hard as a new lawyer while also not forgetting that th...2021-03-0240 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#010: Juvaria Khan - Founder and Director of the Appellate Project Non-ProfitIn this episode I speak with Juvaria Khan, the founder and director of the Appellate Project, a non-profit organization dedicated to empowering law students of color to thrive in the appellate field. In our conversation we discuss what it is like to found and run a non-profit, her path to becoming a non-profit founder including stints at Big Law firms, a district court clerkship, and several years as an impact litigator at Muslim Advocates. We also discuss the goals of the Appellate Project and the importance and potential impact of better representation in the field of appellate advocacy.
S...2021-02-1634 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#009: Andrew Trask - Scientist Turned Patent LitigatorIn this episode I speak with Andrew Trask, a Partner at Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington D.C. where he practices patent litigation. Andrew has played practically every professional role in the patent process. He started his career as a scientist/chemist where he was the co-inventor on a number of patents. He then went on to work as a non-lawyer Patent Agent at a large law firm in New York City while he completed law school at night. After graduation he clerked on the Federal Circuit (the federal court of appeals responsible for hearing patent appeals) and then after...2021-02-0936 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#008: Khalida Sims - Public DefenderIn this episode I speak with Khalida Sims, an Assistant Federal Defender in the Northern District of Ohio in Cleveland. Before her current position she worked as a public defender in Cuyahoga County, Ohio for seven years.
In our conversation, we discuss her path to becoming a public defender, the roles she plays both inside and outside the courtroom, the importance of building rapport with clients (especially those who are currently incarcerated), the centrality of representing the person and not the conduct, and how a trip to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina changed her professional life.
2021-02-0234 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#007: Zarena Sita - Assistant State's AttorneyIn this episode I speak with Zarena Sita who is an Assistant State's Attorney in Baltimore County, Maryland.
In our conversation, we discuss her path to becoming a prosecutor, how she reviews case files, makes plea offers, and prepares her opening statements, the role of on-the-job training, some of her most memorable moments in trial, and the importance of diversity in prosecutor's offices. 2021-01-2635 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#006: Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle - Federal District Court Judge (Retired)In this episode I speak with Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle. Judge Huvelle recently retired from the bench after twenty years of service on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia (federal trial court) and ten years on the D.C. Superior Court before that.
In our conversation, we discuss her pioneering career as the first woman elected to the partnership at Williams & Connolly LLP, the shifts in the practice of law over the past forty years, her path to the bench, why she loved working with juries, how she kept up with the hundreds...2021-01-1944 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#005: Nick Boyle - Accomplished International LitigatorIn this episode I speak with Nick Boyle who is a litigation partner at Latham & Watkin’s Washington D.C. Office. Before that he was a litigator at Williams & Connolly for almost twenty years.
Nick hails from Scotland and came to America after completing degrees at King's College and Cambridge to study at Harvard for an LLM. His international practice focuses on commercial litigation where he has represented business to business data providers, software companies, movie studios, investment banks, private equity funds, and even a Hall of Fame NBA basketball coach. In an age of specialization and silos, Nick has don...2021-01-1041 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#004: Jay Hyne - Director of Regulatory RelationsIn this episode I speak with Jay Hyne who is a Director of U.S. Regulatory Relations at American Express. Before transitioning to regulatory work at Amex, Jay worked in the Financial Intelligence Unit where he conducted anti-money laundering investigations. He started his career as a law clerk to Magistrate Judge Thomas P. Smith in Hartford, Connecticut and then worked a litigation associate at an AmLaw 200 firm in New York City. Jay is a graduate of Brandies University and the University of Connecticut Law School.
In the conversation we discuss his path from litigation to investigations to r...2021-01-1044 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#003: Raffi Melkonian - Texas Appellate Litigator and #AppellateTwitter DeanIn this episode I speak with Raffi Melkonian who is a Partner at Wright Close & Barger LLP in Houston, Texas. Raffi is an experienced appellate litigator who practices in Texas state courts, the federal courts of appeal, and the United States Supreme Court. When he is not drafting legal briefs, arguing at the lectern, or cooking up feasts for his family, you can find him on Twitter @RMFifthCircuit where has been dubbed the "so-called Dean" of #AppellateTwitter. In the conversation we discuss his path from New York Big Law corporate lawyer to Texas appellate litigator, the personal and professional benefits...2021-01-0351 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#002: Andrea Stagg - College Deputy General CounselIn this episode I speak with Andrea Stagg (@AndreaStagg) who is the Deputy General Counsel at Barnard College in New York City. In the conversation we discuss how a college internship led her to a career in higher education law, the unique joys (and challenges) of working in the general counsel's office at a college or university, and the power of e-mail as a means to convey concise and kind legal advice. 2021-01-0332 minHow I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin#001: Welcome to How I Lawyer (Trailer)In this episode I tell a little bit about my story and the story of my new podcast, How I Lawyer.2020-12-2805 min