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New Project Media (NPM) Interconnections
NPM Interconnections (EUR) – Episode 142: Jonathan Maxwell | Sustainable Development Capital
Jonathan Maxwell, the founding partner and CEO of energy transition investor Sustainable Development Capital LLP (SDCL), joins NPM on this episode to give us his view on financing infrastructure in the energy efficiency space in various countries across the world. Top of the agenda are ideas about how to supply increasingly large data centres with clean, non-intermittent power when demand for grid access has never been higher, as well as the ongoing reforms – and what else also needs improving – in the GB electricity market.NPM is a leading data, intelligence & events company providing busin...
2025-03-25
37 min
Next Step Leadership
Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 3
This is the second episode of Tracy and Chris interviewing Pastor Jonathan Altman. Pastor Jonathan has learned many lessons through his years of ministry. He offers wisdom, ideas, and stories. His heart of kindness will be heard by all those who listen. He loves reading, listening, learning, studying, and caring for people. Churches formerly had pastoral studies; now they have offices. That is one example of how today’s ministers forget the value of studying. What we do should come from who we are. Study and prayer are parts of our development. Jonathan brings a mixture of quality education and...
2025-03-20
23 min
Next Step Leadership
Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 2
In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy loved their conversation with Pastor Jonathan Altman. You will love it also. Take time to listen in. Think of what parts of Jonathan’s story remind you about your story and the lives of people you know. What thoughts come to your mind as you hear about his parents’ divorce? About him drifting away from God? About dealing with sadness and grief? About surrendering his heart to God? About his calling into the ministry, his time of reluctance to obey that invitation to ministry and his eventual willin...
2025-03-13
23 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🌱 How Successful People Grow: 15 Ways to Get Ahead in Life - John C Maxwell
John C. Maxwell's "How Successful People Grow" examines fifteen crucial principles for personal development and realizing one's potential. The book underscores intentional growth, self-awareness, and the importance of character. It inspires readers to challenge misconceptions about growth, embrace discipline, and strategically plan for self-improvement. Maxwell points out the value of a positive environment, mentorship, and transforming negative experiences into opportunities. The ultimate aim is to enhance oneself and foster the growth of others.
2025-03-11
19 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🤝 Winning with People: Discover the People Principles that Work for You Every Time - John C Maxwell
John Maxwell's Winning With People delves into the essential principles for cultivating successful relationships. The book is structured around five key questions concerning readiness, connection, trust, investment, and synergy, which assess relational effectiveness. Maxwell stresses that self-awareness, empathy, and a focus on others are crucial for nurturing healthy interactions. He presents concepts like the "Mirror Principle" and the "Pain Principle" to promote self-reflection and appreciation of others' perspectives. Maxwell advocates that investing in relationships through patience, celebration, and genuine care fosters mutually beneficial outcomes.Th...
2025-03-09
52 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🗣️ Good Leaders Ask Great Questions: Your Foundation to Successful Leadership - John C Maxwell
John C. Maxwell's book examines the power of asking the right questions to become a more effective leader. He shares personal anecdotes, experiences, and insights gleaned from his career and relationships. Maxwell highlights the importance of self-reflection, understanding one's strengths, and valuing others to encourage growth and influence.The book offers guidance on self-leadership, team dynamics, navigating transitions, resolving conflicts, and developing future leaders. Maxwell presents specific questions leaders should pose to themselves and their teams to foster success, urging readers to emphasize people...
2025-03-09
22 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🤝 Everyone Communicates, Few Connect: What the Most Effective People do Differently - John C. Maxwell
John Maxwell's book, "Everyone Communicates, Few Connect," delves into the essential skill of connecting with others to improve influence and success. Maxwell highlights that effective communication extends beyond just words; it involves emotional intelligence, authenticity, and an emphasis on understanding the other person's needs and viewpoints. The book outlines various techniques for building rapport, including finding common ground, simplifying communication, and creating enjoyable experiences. Maxwell stresses that connecting necessitates energy, intentionality, and a sincere desire to serve and inspire others. Maxwell provides examples of...
2025-03-07
18 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🙌🏼 The 5 Levels of Leadership: Proven Steps to Maximize Your Potential - John C. Maxwell
John Maxwell's "The 5 Levels of Leadership" explores a framework for understanding and developing leadership skills. It posits that leadership progresses through five distinct levels: Position, Permission, Production, People Development, and Pinnacle.Each level builds upon the previous one, with leaders striving to move beyond positional authority to influence based on relationships, results, and empowering others. The book emphasizes that authentic leadership involves serving others, creating a positive impact, and cultivating future leaders. Maxwell employs anecdotes, examples, and actionable advice to help readers assess their current leadership effectiveness and advance...
2025-03-07
20 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🏆 Developing the Leader Within You - John C. Maxwell
John Maxwell's Developing the Leader Within You 2.0 explores the concept of leadership as influence and offers guidance on personal growth to enhance leadership effectiveness. The book outlines five levels of leadership, beginning with position and progressing towards people development and positive change. It highlights the importance of character, priorities, problem-solving, a positive attitude, self-discipline, and a servant's heart in effective leadership.Maxwell further emphasizes the significance of vision, the necessity for personal ownership of that vision, and the power of personal growth in expanding one's leadership potential.
2025-03-07
42 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
📈 The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership: Follow Them and People Will Follow You - John C. Maxwell
"The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership" by John Maxwell outlines principles for effective leadership through anecdotes and examples. Each "law" addresses a key aspect of leadership, including trust, respect, connection, and vision. The book emphasizes that leadership revolves around influence and that success depends on empowering and developing others. It explores various leadership styles, highlighting the importance of intuition, priorities, and understanding the timing of decisions. Ultimately, the text asserts that everything hinges on leadership, encouraging readers to learn and apply these laws to enhance their influence.
2025-03-07
48 min
Infinitum Leadership: Unlock Your Potential
🥇 The 21 Indispensable Qualities of a Leader: Becoming the Person Others Will Want to Follow - John C. Maxwell
John C. Maxwell's The 21 Indispensable Qualities of a Leader aims to equip individuals with the traits necessary for effective leadership. The book explores qualities such as character, charisma, commitment, communication, competence, discernment, focus, generosity, listening, passion, problem-solving, self-discipline, servanthood, and vision. Each chapter uses real-world examples, reflections, and action steps to guide readers in developing these crucial leadership attributes. Maxwell emphasizes that leadership development is an ongoing process that requires internal growth and a commitment to serving others. Ultimately, the text asserts that by cu...
2025-03-07
18 min
Jesus and Your Mental Health
S1 E19: A Conversation on Marriage Part 2 - Sex and Submission
Part 2 of a 2-part conversation on marriage. In this episode, Rebecca and Shawn Maxwell, together with Jonathan and Aubrey Vinke, continue their discussion on several questions and issues related to marriage, including submission and sex. This episode may not be appropriate for young listeners, so listener discretion is advised. If you would like more information on Rebecca Maxwell or her practice, please visit www.jesusandyourmentalhealth.com.
2025-03-03
40 min
Jesus and Your Mental Health
S1 E18: A Conversation on Marriage feat. Shawn Maxwell & Aubrey Vinke - Part 1
In this episode, we dive into the first part of a two-part series on marriage, where Rebecca and Jonathan are joined by their spouses: Rebecca's husband Shawn and Jonathan's wife Aubrey. Join us as we explore the challenges couples face, like dealing with past traumas and learning effective communication. Whether you're just starting your journey or decades in, learn how to push back against the many things that threaten your most important relationship, all while cultivating a heart rooted in gospel truths. For more information about Rebecca, this podcast, and her upcoming book, go to j...
2025-02-17
45 min
Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
The Biggest, Dirtiest Secret of the Energy Industry — Ep184: Jonathan Maxwell
Could we save billions by simply reducing energy waste? How can we power the vast, energy-hungry growth of AI without sacrificing climate goals? And is Europe doomed to high energy costs and deindustrialisation? This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich sits down with Jonathan Maxwell, CEO and founder of Sustainable Development Capital LLP (SDCL), for the third time on Cleaning Up. Jonathan shares his perspective on the urgent need to address energy efficiency and waste, drawing from the themes explored in his book "The Edge." Jonathan and Michael delve into SDCL's innovative approach to providing on-site energy s...
2024-11-06
1h 15
SRI360 | Sustainable & Responsible Investing, Impact Investing, ESG, Socially Responsible Investing
Betting Big on Energy at the Edge: SDCL Finds Double-Digit Returns Off the Grid | Jonathan Maxwell (#060)
Here's something I learned in this interview: We're wasting three-quarters of the world’s energy, half of its food, and a third of its water. That’s a crazy amount of lost resources! But what if, instead of just seeing this as an environmental problem, we saw it as a huge economic opportunity?The truth is, we don’t need to wait for new technology, or find new resources, or produce more – we just need to use what we already have more efficiently. After all, if massive investments in renewable energy haven’t significantly reduced global emissions, and fossil...
2024-10-29
1h 54
RIA+
The Intersection of Entrepreneurialism & Energy: SDCL's Jonathan Maxwell
This episode of RIA+ features Jonathan Maxwell, the founder & CEO of Sustainable Development Capital, a U.K.-based investment manager and one of Emigrant’s 20 partner firms. The episode focuses on Jonathan’s entrepreneurial journey and what led him to launch SDCL, why he authored his new book – “The Edge” and why SDCL’s unique perspective and focus on sustainable energy is gaining traction with institutional and individual investors across the globe.
2024-01-09
39 min
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
Accelerating Multifamily Wealth with Digital Lending with Maxwell Wu
Lending can be a complicated topic in real estate investing. If you’re an investor who prefers multifamily properties, you may want to consider a lender specializing in these assets. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Maxwell Wu, founder of Fulcrum Lending and an expert in the multifamily property lending space. Maxwell’s decade of varied experience in real estate gives him a unique perspective on the intersection of technology and lending. Jonathan and Maxwell start their conversation by covering Maxwell’s background in real estate...
2023-12-18
49 min
Why Invest?
An Interview with Jonathan Maxwell: Exploring energy efficiency
Join Luke Hyde-Smith, new host and Co-Head of Multi-Asset Strategies at Waverton, in an enlightening conversation with Jonathan Maxwell, the visionary founder of Sustainable Development Capital. In this episode, they delve into the critical role of energy efficiency in realizing our net zero ambitions.Jonathan shares knowledge from his book, "The Edge" that is packed with fascinating facts and actionable solutions to today's energy challenges. They discuss how Jonathan's firm is actively implementing these strategies and explore the key theme “if it's not commercial, it's not sustainable.” For more information on any of the...
2023-11-29
47 min
The Infra Insider
The Infra Insider - Episode 6: Exploring 'The Edge' with Jonathan Maxwell
#solarpower #windpower #renewables #renewableenergy #infrastructure #power #infrastructure #energyefficiency In this episode of The Infra Insider, we're thrilled to feature Jonathan Maxwell, the distinguished Founder and CEO of Sustainable Development Capital LLP (SDCL). Jonathan brings profound insights from his recent book, "The Edge," which brilliantly dissects global events, the war in Ukraine, and the critical link between resource competition, crises, and sustainability. Tune in for an illuminating discussion shedding light on the essential strategies for navigating today's changing paradigms, offering a glimpse into the transformative potential within renewable energy and sustainability. *SDCL https://www.sdclgroup.com/ ---------------------------------------------------- *Buy ‘The Edge’ http...
2023-10-31
43 min
Hope Charities
Plasma Derived Products: An Interview with Quality Assurance Expert, Maxwell Hunter.
In this episode, Jonathan James interviews Maxwell Hunter who is a quality assurance expert in plasma collection. He shares about current therapies available, technology changes, and product safety. Hope Charities is a national nonprofit focused on helping people living with rare and chronic illnesses thrive. Our programs specialize in helping people with genetic bleeding disorders and #hemophilia navigate the challenges of invisible disease by providing emotional, educational, and tangible support. To learn more about our programs visit our website www.hope-charities.org. ...
2023-06-11
42 min
Peace Christian Church - Rockhampton
Rejoice Because You’re Clothed | Jonathan Maxwell | 26.03.23
Rejoice Because You’re Clothed by Jonathan Maxwell
2023-03-27
31 min
Next Step Leadership
Interview with Jonathan Bryan, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 48
Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Jonathan Bryan in this week’s Next Step Leadership. Jonathan is a young leader who decided to love others even though love often hurts, and to minister even though ministry is often painful. Listeners will notice how excited Tracy and Chris sound as they hear about Jonathan‘s six years of ministry. Jonathan continues offering suggestions on working to find the right ones to learn discipleship from, and how to begin mentoring others. His suggestions are important and practical: Control the controllable, prepare yourself for whatever future God might have for you, conn...
2023-01-26
25 min
Next Step Leadership
Interview with Jonathan Bryan, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 47
Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds love each conversation they have in Next Step Leadership. They especially enjoy dialogues like this one with Jonathan Bryan in today’s episode. Chris and Tracy met Jonathan when he was a college student. Now they continue to smile as they watch Jonathan grow and develop in his ministry. Jonathan tells his story about life as a preacher’s kid, regular involvement in church, multiple generations of those who loved Jesus, calling into ministry, commitment during high school years, college life at Emmanuel, his present ministry vocation, and how he’s continued living committed to Jes...
2023-01-19
20 min
Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Checkpoint 2023: Energy Efficiency Investment - Ep113: Jonathan Maxwell
This week’s episode of Cleaning Up sees the return of Jonathan Maxwell, Founder and CEO of Sustainable Development Capital Limited (SDCL), one of the world’s biggest investors in energy efficiency. Jonathan is back for the first in a series of 'checkpoints' on Cleaning Up, as we invite guests back to the show to give an update on their sector or specialism on the path to net zero. Guest Bio: investment trust investing exclusively in energy efficiency - Sustainable Energy Efficiency Income Trust (SEEIT). Jonathan chairs the Trust’s Investment Committee.Jonathan has over...
2023-01-18
1h 04
Peace Christian Church – Mount Morgan
The Holy Spirit Has Been Sent To You! | Jonathan Maxwell
The Holy Spirit Has Been Sent To You! by Jonathan Maxwell
2022-10-18
32 min
Pop Culture Retro Podcast
Pop Culture Retro interview with Daphne Maxwell Reid from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air!
Send us a textJoin Disney's Ike Eisenmann and author, Jonathan Rosen, as they chat with Daphne Maxwell Reid from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air!Daphne talks about her role on the iconic sitcom, working on Simon and Simon, her cookbooks and photography books, running New Millennium Studios, which was the largest studio outside of Hollywood, and much more!Support the show
2022-06-29
44 min
Grace Family Church - Canfield, Ohio
6.12.22 The Holy Spirit and Water Baptism - Jonathan Moore
The Holy Spirit & Water BaptismRomans 6:1-7INTROCommunion and water baptism are to the two ordinances observed by Protestant churches. They do not save us, but they are things that saved people do! There is no saving efficacy attached to them (Roman Catholicism has 7 sacraments). The term “ordinance” means an order or a command that has been instituted by Jesus. He ordained that these two ordinances be observed in the church because they symbolize what has already taken place in the life of the one who has accepted the s...
2022-06-13
47 min
DiscipLead Podcast
Episode 15: Chris Maxwell on Finding Balance on Life’s Uneven Surfaces, Not Worshipping Our Worship, and How Voices Influence Our Choices
In this episode, Chris and I discuss his latest book, “Equilibrium: Finding Balance on Life’s Uneven Surfaces”. In our conversation, we talked about writing as a form of therapy, how the voices we hear influence the choices we make, and how we as leaders can start on a path toward greater balance in our lives.3 Quotes for Notes:“Your feelings are not the voice of the Lord.”“Sometimes we worship our worship instead of letting worship be one of the acts of celebrating God and His goodness.”“The voices we hear i...
2022-06-07
37 min
The Switch - to a green economy
Don't blame the individual, put pressure on institutions - Jonathan Maxwell, CEO SDCL
If everyone depends on energy, why do we waste most of it? To be precise, why do we waste up to 50 % of original energy before it even gets to the demand side? In the midst of Europe’s energy crisis, we sat down with Jonathan Maxwell, CEO & Founder of Sustainable Development Capital LLP., to talk about the investor side of sustainable energy.With over 20 years experience in international finance, infrastructure and private equity, as well as 10 years experience in sustainable investment, business creation and management, Jonathan Maxwell has a solution to the problem of wasted energy. And hi...
2022-05-31
46 min
FOR THE MASSES PODCAST
EP. 28 – Dream Chasing FT. Maxwell Lacey
Maxwell is my former roommate and current Costa Rican World Team Member and Pan American Medalist in the sport of wrestling. Max jumps on the show and tells us his journey to a senior level medal. Super grateful for him taking the time out his training to sit down have a conversation. In this episode, we discussed things such as: - The mindset shift he took to get back into the sport - Why he choose to make a shift? - Mindset techniques he uses in real time to continue to...
2022-02-24
38 min
Dark Starts Backcountry Splitboard Podcast
Somewear Labs - Jonathan Besquin - Marketing Manager
Episode 75Dark Starts backcountry splitboarding podcast presents a Split Decisions episode, with Jonathan Besquin of Somewear Labs HotSpot Device.For full show notes visit https://www.darkstarts.ca/somewear-labsSpecial thanks to:Visit our website for great deals from our sponsors:www.darkstarts.ca/partnersGroundswell Marketingwww.instagram.com/groundswell_fm/Valerie Black The Artist Behind The Logowww.instagram.com/valerieblack.art/Follow us:www.darkstarts.ca@ Darkstarts.podcasthttps://www...
2021-11-02
49 min
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Believers class
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2021-10-16
15 min
Max web App Developer
Financial knowledge
Business world--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-10-15
1h 53
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Believers foundation
God kind--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-10-14
45 min
Max web App Developer
Financial knowledge 2
12 basic cause outlines for financial independence Introduction of business- Business environmental study- access obstacles and spot out opportunities in business Cultivation of ideas- knowing your turf and objective Cause and planning The mestry of investment- time and money The cash flow quadrant- it has to do with account statement and liability The 21st century business- advancing the business The leverage of networking-Building a sustainable system- Financial independence - using asset and cash flow to achieve financial independence --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-10-13
1h 31
Max web App Developer
Guide to Financial freedom - financial independence
The 21st century business ————————Introduction of business- Business environmental study- access obstacles and spot out opportunities in business Cultivation of ideas- knowing your turf and objective Cause and planning The mestry of investment- time and money The cash flow quadrant- it has to do with account statement and liability The 21st century business- advancing the business The leverage of networking-Building a sustainable system- Financial independence - using asset and cash flow to achieve financial independence Protecting your moneyManagement science Introduction to Business - the more difficult problems you solve for your friends the more financially free you become --- Send in a voice messa...
2021-10-11
2h 41
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Empowered to do my father’s business
Empowered to do my father’s business --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-07-04
31 min
Max web App Developer
Am a sign and a wonder
Am a sign and wonder --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-06-30
17 min
Max web App Developer
How do you discover your purpose
What God sent you to planet earth for--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-06-13
29 min
Energy Unplugged by Aurora
EP.40 Jonathan Maxwell, CEO of Sustainable Development Capital LLP
Our CEO John Feddersen is joined by Jonathan Maxwell, CEO and founder of Sustainable Development Capital LLP (SDCL). Jonathan has over 25 years’ experience in international finance, infrastructure and private equity. Since its 2007 establishment, SDCL has launched energy efficiency project investment funds in the UK, Ireland, Singapore and New York. John and Jonathan discuss: •Jonathan’s motivation for starting a sustainable investment business •The importance of energy security and resilience •ESG investment and achieving high ESG performance Support the show
2021-03-18
51 min
Ranking The Beatles
#179 - Maxwell's Silver Hammer (with guest Sam Whiles, host of "Paul or Nothing" podcast)
One of the most divisive tracks in the Beatles' catalog is another classic example of Paul McCartney being able to invent stories out of thin air, wrap them in insanely catchy melodies and arrangement, and somehow draw the ire of all of his band mates, and like, 50% of the general population. "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" gets a bad rap...if his bandmates hadn't literally trashed it in the press upon release (and on through the 2010s), or had it been recorded a couple of years earlier, would it be as divisive, or held up as a classic McCartney? Is it "...
2021-03-09
1h 45
Gespräche vonMorgen
#039 | Dienstags bei Johannes & Jonathan: Bücher, die unser Leben inspirieren und uns weiterbringen
How to Read a Book - Adler & van Doren The 4 Hour Chef - Tim Ferriss The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team - Patrick Lencioni The Hard Things About Hard Things - Ben Horowitz The Inevitable - Kevin Kelly The Effective Executive - Peter Drucker The Book of Wealth - Hubert Howe Bancroft Joseph Fouché - Stefan Zweig Magellan - Stefan Zweig Shantaram - Gregory David Roberts Madame Curie - Ève Curie Ludwig Wittgenstein - Kurt Wuchterl Al...
2021-03-02
1h 10
Ball Talk with Jon Soch and Chazz
Anthony Maxwell Jr Interview | Episode 32
In this Episode Jon Soch interviews Montreal Basketball prospect Anthony Maxwell Jr. They talk Montreal hoops, the transition to prep, and covid struggles
2021-02-23
37 min
Dark Starts Backcountry Splitboard Podcast
Jonathan Penfield - Bell to Bell - Freeride World Tour Competitor
Episode 46Dark Starts backcountry splitboarding podcast presents Jonathan Penfield, Freeride World Tour Competitor.For full show notes visit https://www.darkstarts.ca/jonathan-penfieldSpecial thanks to:Visit our website for great deals from our sponsors:www.darkstarts.ca/partnersGroundswell Marketingwww.instagram.com/groundswell_fm/Valerie Black The Artist Behind The Logowww.instagram.com/valerieblack.art/Follow us:www.darkstarts.ca@ Darkstarts.podcasthttps://www.instagram.com/darkstarts.podcast/...
2021-02-16
2h 08
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You are best served
On this podcast I want to tell you that whatever you are going through, you’re going to make it through to what you want and it will all be like a dream of the Night always remember that--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-01-19
08 min
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Greatness Essence
Start with one to make all come to you --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2021-01-16
02 min
Max web App Developer
Introducing Unload Your Gifts
Self development and motivation --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2020-12-23
06 min
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Shiloh Hour of visitation
Shiloh day 4--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2020-12-11
32 min
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Shiloh hour of visitation
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2020-12-11
03 min
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Hour of visitation II day 4 Shiloh
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2020-12-11
59 min
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Shiloh 2020 encounter night day 3
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2020-12-10
1h 59
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Shiloh
Shiloh Encounter Night day 3--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maxwell-jonathan/message
2020-12-10
55 min