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Winning The Away GameWynand Olivier and Robyn Curnow - How emigrating makes you MORE South AfricanWhat happens when elite sport ends, the cheering stops, and life asks you to start again?In this episode of Winning The Away Game, we sit down with Springbok and Bulls legend Wynand Olivier and veteran journalist Robyn Curnow for a powerful, honest conversation about identity, reinvention, and what it really means to begin again.We talk about the emotional reality of leaving professional rugby, moving countries, and returning home to a version of life that has moved on without you. Wynand opens up about the shock of retirement, building a business from...
2026-01-291h 14
Into The Podverse: Innovation, Challenges & OpportunitiesJonathan Warncke on the South African Podcasters GuildJonathan Warncke explains how the South African Podcasters Guild supports creators, secures partnerships, and drives monetisation for SA podcasters. Learn strategies to grow your podcast and the benefits of guild membership for independent creators. Originally published on February 2, 2025.
2026-01-1620 min
Winning The Away GameShaun Tomson and Rob Louw - Paddle Back Out.In this episode of Winning The Away Game, we sit down with two true South African sporting icons — Springbok legend Rob Louw and world champion surfer Shaun Tomson.This is a powerful, wide-ranging conversation about breaking barriers, choosing adventure over comfort, leadership through change, and rebuilding life after elite sport. From apartheid-era tours and the evolution of South African rugby, to conquering Hawaii’s waves, building global businesses, and finding purpose after profound personal loss — this episode is about resilience in its truest form.We explore what it really means to win the away game when the rules keep changi...
2026-01-151h 29
Winning The Away GameBJ Botha and Linda ReddyWe sat down with BJ Botha (a Sharks man through and through and a Springbok World Cup winner) and Linda Reddy (a South African leader flying the Nando’s flag globally) to talk about what it really takes to build a life and career across borders.This conversation is about identity, purpose, and the grit it takes to start again: from moving cities, to moving countries, to rebuilding after rugby, to leading teams from the other side of the world.Key moments: 00:00:00 Intro: What the away game re...
2025-12-1856 min
Winning The Away GameBryan Habana & Orrin Klopper: Life After Rugby, Business Crises and Starting AgainWe open Season 1 of Winning the Away Game with two guests who know what it means to be tested far from home.Bryan Habana is a Rugby World Cup winner, Springbok legend and Toulon star who has had to rebuild his identity after retirement. Orrin Klopper is the CEO of NetSurIT, a global MSP that has survived multiple crises, acquisitions and a full reinvention of its business model in recent years.In this conversation we explore how both of them learned to win long after the final whistle.In this episode...
2025-11-201h 30
Winning The Away GameKobus Wiese & André Shearer: Wine, Coffee and the Business of WinningIn episode 2 , we sit down with two South African giants of the Away Game: 1995 Rugby World Cup winner and Wiesenhof Coffee founder Kobus Wiese, and Cape Classics and Indaba Foundation founder André Shearer.From lifting the Webb Ellis Cup to lifting espresso machines and wine cases in far-flung markets, we unpack how teams, attitude and sheer graft turn rugby lessons into global businesses.In this episode, we talk about:● How the Springboks became South Africa’s best brand builder when everything else was failing● Kobus’s blind date that turned into a marriage and a coffee em...
2025-11-201h 27
Winning The Away GameCorne Krige and Hein Wagner - Turning Pain Into PowerIn this episode we sit down with two South Africans who know all about pressure, change, and starting again: former Springbok captain Corne Krige and blind adventurer and speaker Hein Wagner.They take us from leaving home for boarding school as young kids, to captaining the Springboks and crossing oceans, to starting businesses and building institutions that create opportunity for others. Along the way we talk discipline, identity, independence, and what it really means to build a country that works for everyone.In this episode we cover:- Growing up far from home: boarding school at 4 and 5...
2025-11-201h 19
Searching for America with Robyn CurnowAngertainment: When News Stops Informing and Starts RecruitingWhy does it feel like the news wants us angry?
In this week’s Searching for America, I dig into what I call “angertainment” — the weaponization of news into a cycle of outrage and division. I spent more than twenty years inside the global media machine, from CNN to the BBC, and I’ve watched how fear and fury turned into a profitable formula.
In this episode, I talk about how I reached my breaking point, why I turned off cable news for good, and how I’ve started to rethink what it means to stay informe...
2025-11-0409 min
Ozempic DiariesOzempic Diaries - The TrailerJoin your hosts, Jonathan Warncke and Charlene Armstrong, on a 3-month experiment on...themselves.
We'll be using Ozempic as a fat-loss tool and reporting our results every week on Monday.
We'll also talk about the science, the myths, the stigma, and the potential of Ozmepic and drugs like it.
Follow the show, and connect with us on our Whatsapp community, where you can share your results, ask questions, and learn more about Ozempic. Join our Whatsapp Community · Check out our website · Follow us on Insta
2025-02-0402 min
A Table in the Corner101. Turning the Tables on Russel WasserfallWith 100 episodes of A Table in the Corner in the bag, I felt it might be time to do a biographical insert for episode 101. Some of my guests have asked when the spotlight would fall on me. A few of our regular listeners have also asked via Instagram DMs when I'm going to be interviewed. Jonathan Warncke recently invited me onto his industry-focused podcast 'How to Start a Podcast in South Africa', and I cajoled him into being the guest host on my show - to turn the tables on A Table in the Corner. Turns out there was a...
2025-01-3036 min
Award Highlights2024 Judges Special with Jonathan WarnckeGuest - Jonathan Warncke Managing director of the South African Podcasters GuildJoin us for a conversation about APVA's Judges experience, the relevance of awards in the african audio industry and also key industry insight from our Judges.
2025-01-1009 min
Business Beyond the Mic029: Podcasting Beyond Boundaries by Building a Vast Repertoire with Jonathan WarnckeEmbark on a journey of podcasting innovation as we explore the art of transcending borders through a diverse podcasting repertoire guided by the expertise of Jonathan Warncke. Jonathan is a creative director, brand strategist, copywriter, and podcast producer with over 15 years of experience in these roles. His career spans working in leading agencies in both South Africa and Spain, honing his skills as a copywriter and creative director. In addition to his role as an in-house creative director at Virgin Active South Africa, Jon founded Ping, a podcast production studio, in 2019. He also serves as the managing director of...
2024-04-0829 min
Business ChoreographyInterview with Jonathan WarnckeJon Warncke is the owner of Ping Productions. He’s a copywriter, and Ideas guy, and audio fanatic
and creative director that Specializes in podcast production, brand work, Pitch decks, and creative concepts.
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2023-07-2029 min
South African Ex-PatsWhere am I going with this? - an updateHere's a brief update on the show and where I'm going with it.
If you don't have a couple of minutes to spare, the short version is that South African Ex-Pats is on hold.
It was a project to help me explore my interest in emigration destinations around the world, as well as level up my podcasting skills, and I consider it a very successful one. However, I believe I'll learn more by moving on to other projects now.
If you want to get in touch with me, you can find me at ping...
2022-11-0904 minSouth African Ex-PatsGrant and his family moved to British Columbia, and it wasn't easy.Grant Norman was kind enough to join me to chat about his family's emigration to a suburb just outside Vancouver.
Grant and his wife got into Canada via the Express Entry visa, although it was a few years ago.
Grant's journey was not necessarily smooth, though, and the high cost of living in Canada has certainly not made things easier.
One person Grant wanted to recommend was Deanne Acres Lans, who helped him with his visa process. You can find Deanne here: https://canadaabroad.com
You can support thi...
2022-07-2643 min
South African Ex-PatsEmigration Expo - Moving to Malta, with Grahame Salt.Sorry for the long break, but I went away to Ireland and the UK for a month. More on that coming up in future episodes.
Here's a conversation from the Emigration Expo that I hope will prove revealing. I knew Malta existed, but didn't know much beyond that.
I grabbed 10 minutes with Grahame Salt at the expo so he could give me Malta 101.
Grahame is one of the directors of Frank Salt Real Estate. Grahame obviously has a vested interest in you wanting to buy property in Malta, but that doesn't make it sou...
2022-06-2812 min
South African Ex-PatsPet Emigration, with Vaughn from Animal Travel Services. Expo mini-sode.Continuing my short conversations with the exhibitors at the Emigration Expo, I cornered Vaughn from Animal Travel Services for a quick chat about emigrating your pets.
We cover costs, the procedure from start to finish, and some of those interesting questions like "Do pets get sedated for travel" and "Do you transport snakes?".
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and my brother currently helms.
Two products of particular interest for emigration-curious South Africans: Build-a-Set and Luggage Glove.
If you need luggage...
2022-05-0314 minSouth African Ex-PatsExpo mini-sode - Moving your prized possessions overseas, with Allen Jones from BiddulphsHuge thanks to Allen Jones for taking the time to chat to me about shipping your valuables overseas.
I don't fall into the category of people who LOVE their furniture enough to cart it overseas, but I know that there are plenty of people who really do.
I got an amazing sense of integrity and care from Allen and his colleagues (as I got from everyone at the Expo). If you want to chat to them, you can find them at www.biddulphs.co.za.
You can support this show by...
2022-04-2618 minSouth African Ex-PatsThe Emigration Expo - Sarah Howarth, Expo organiser.I attended The Emigration Expo last weekend and recorded some great interviews with the exhibitors.
I'll be publishing the interviews as I get them lightly edited so you can catch up if you couldn't make it.
Here's a very short intro with Sarah Howarth, the organiser of the Expo. Sarah give us a little context about The Emigration Expo and tells us where else you can find it if you don't live in Cape Town.
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and...
2022-04-2506 minSouth African Ex-PatsThe Emigration Expo is coming to Cape Town TOMORROW and Saturday.Hi everyone. Just wanted to let everyone know about The Emigration Expo, which is happening at the conference venue attached to the aquarium at the V&A Waterfront. It's free! You can get all the details and register at www.theemigrationexpo.com.I'm going to be there, Friday between 11am and 1pm and perhaps Saturday between 10am and 11am, interviewing attendees, exhibitors, and expo staff. If you see me, please say hi. I'll be the guy with two microphones and a beard. If you can't make it, I'll be posting an episode about th...
2022-04-2101 minSouth African Ex-PatsGoldens Visas - "Where, how, and how much?" with Amanda SmitDon't have an ancestral passport, but DO have a lot of money? Welcome to the world of 🤴golden visas👸.
Amanda Smit from Henley & Partners joins us to talk about residency and citizenship by investment.
We cover the famous Portuguese golden visa, as well as some other great options you may not have heard of.
We hear about how the process works when you ask for assistance from a company like Henley & Partners, and how much it costs.
I also now know that you can set up your Plan B long before you actua...
2022-04-0329 min
2022-03-1210 minSouth African Ex-PatsPaul got a golden ticket to Ottawa, Calgary, and Western Australia.Paul Goodwill is an interesting guy. When others moan and groan about how difficult it is to emigrate to first world countries like Canada and Australia, he games the system. These first-world countries don't need marketers and IT managers and so on. They need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, and mechanics.
So Paul spent a few years certifying as a plumber, and that certification was his golden ticket to Ottawa, Calgary, and Western Australia, where he lives now. In this episode Paul tells us how he did it, and what life is like in the three cities he's lived i...
2022-03-0646 minSouth African Ex-PatsJo moved to Los Angeles, CaliforniaJo Galloway is a professional actress, singer, dancer, writer and international voice artist.
In 2012 she moved to Los Angeles to take her career to the next level.
Ten years and far too many productions to name later, Jo has worked with Hollywood luminaries like Jimmy Fallon and Seth MacFarlane, and is now back in SA, intending to shuttle between LA and Cape Town depending on where the work takes her.
Jo gives us an amazing insight into Los Angeles, California, and the USA in general.
Although there's something here for everyone, I th...
2022-01-2850 minSouth African Ex-PatsJon (the host) moved to Barcelona. And then came back.As a minor celebration of the 20th episode of South African Ex-Pats, I'd like to tell you about what it's like to move to and live in Barcelona, Spain.
And in my case, why I decided to come back to South Africa.
Barcelona is a city for those who love the good life. Work is secondary to living, there's a brilliant restaurant on every block, and the city itself features many architectural masterpieces. It's a place of high culture and drunken stag weekends. Elegant dance clubs and underground marijuana bars. It's warm-water beaches and leafy b...
2022-01-1628 minSouth African Ex-PatsSven and his family moved to Vancouver, Canada.Sven is a technician who became a financial planner who became a technician again in order to emigrate to Canada. It turns out that they have enough financial planners.
Sven is originally from Bulgaria, but lived in South Africa for 13 years and the visa process he and his South African wife went through is an interesting journey.
About 30 minutes into the interview, Sven mentioned a government programme aimed at helping parents save for their children's tertiary education. Unfortunately he overestimated the amount the Canadian government would contribute, but $7200 is still a pretty handy amount considering it...
2021-11-1052 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Our morning routine and you talking.A quick description of our usual morning, as well as your 16-month update. We need to fatten you up and you need to start talking, son.
2021-10-2102 minSouth African Ex-PatsSherianne moved to the beautiful city of Amsterdam in the NetherlandsSherianne Kramer is an ex-pat post-doc criminal psychologist who moved to Amsterdam to complete her research, and still hasn't come home after 5 years.
She loves the beautiful canals and the calm, safe, stable nature of the city and the country. She describes the Dutch as gentle, deeply traditional, and possessing a secret sense of fun and appreciation for beauty that belies their somewhat dour, pragmatic exterior. Also, they're very tall.
When she's not teaching university student, Sherianne is working on her side hustle, Home.Made, a bespoke relocation business that helps South Africans relocate to th...
2021-10-191h 11South African Ex-PatsSimon moved to Brisbane with his family, via 13 years in the UK.Simon is an old friend whose work in the hotel industry has taken him across the world. He and his family are now settled down in Brisbane, Australia, or Brizzo, or Brizza, or Brisby, probably. Australians can't call anything by their actual name.
Simon paints an attractive portrait of the River City, and it certainly made me consider it. Between the access to nature, thriving food scene, safety, great schooling, relative scarcity of deadly animals (compared to the poisonous animals exhibit in any zoo), Brisbane sounds great.
As I mention in the upfront of the show, we g...
2021-10-1259 minSouth African Ex-PatsSteve moved with his wife and two daughters to Stanford, Seattle, and then San Francisco Bay Area.It was a huge pleasure to talk to Steve Reardon, a Durban boy who moved to America and obtained citizenship through a somewhat complex series of misadventures. His point about looking for pull factors of a possible new home rather than focusing on the push factors that are making you want to leave South Africa has stuck with me.
Although I don't see myself as a person who lives in America, I think Steve's positivity makes it feel far more relatable, and his insight into the living and working in the US is profound. If you have any questions a...
2021-09-291h 132021-09-2308 minSouth African Ex-PatsNicole and Warren moved to St. Albans, UKIn case you're wondering, St. Albans is one of those towns outside of London, but close enough to commute in for work.
Nicole and Warren moved to the UK with their dog, Tyson (not 'Tyrone', as I so cringingly misspeak) and have been there for about 2 years.
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and my brother currently helms.
Two products of particular interest for emigration-curious South Africans: Build-a-Set and Luggage Glove.
If you need luggage, accessories, handbags, leather goods, noise-cance...
2021-09-2050 minSouth African Ex-PatsRisk and having a Plan B, with David AnsaraMy guest, David Ansara from the "Solutions with David Ansara" podcast, is the Chief Operating Office of the Centre for Risk Analysis. In this episode he gives us a view of the short and long term risks to South Africa and its citizens, and offers us some strategic advice on setting up your plan B.
A plan B is all about making sure that you have as many options as possible. If you don't want to emigrate now, look into obtaining an ancestral passport you may have access to.
Build your business pro...
2021-09-1352 minSouth African Ex-PatsRita moved to Tallinn, EstoniaRita is a copywriter from Cape Town who was offered a job in the capital city of Estonia, Tallinn.
Most people (me included), don't know much about Estonia, and group it vaguely as "one of those eastern bloc countries".
That's correct, but there's far more to it. Here's the first paragraph of its Wikipedia page to get you started:
Officially the Republic of Estonia (Estonian: Eesti Vabariik), is a country in Northern Europe. It is bordered to the north by the Gulf of Finland across from Finland, to the west by the Baltic Sea...
2021-09-0851 minSouth African Ex-PatsA South African's guide to moving money offshoreIn this episode my guests are Hailey Roos, managing director at Carrick Global Wealth Limited, and Candice Koenig, business consultant at Currency Partners.
Together Hailey and Candice boil down the basics of moving your money offshore, whether you're planning to emigrate or not. We talk about the how much you're allowed to move, what it will cost you, and what the process is. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that it's a much simpler process than I had imagined.
Note: I've set up an affiliate partnership with Currency Partners here, who are ve...
2021-09-0623 minSouth African Ex-PatsJason and his family moved to Dublin, IrelandJason is a musician who moved to Dublin during the height of the pandemic last year and has now been living there for a year.
Although his move was logistically and emotionally tough, he's loving the Emerald Isle and has a lot to share about it.
As I mention in the upfront introduction, there is a 4ish minute-long editorial from me about the podcast, what I'm trying to accomplish, and especially a call for you to let me know how I can improve the show. If you've got feedback or ideas, let me know by leaving a voice note on...
2021-08-2546 minSouth African Ex-PatsA South African's guide to emigrating to the UK, with John DunnIn this episode, I was lucky enough to chat to John Dunn, the International Director of UK I EU citizenship & immigration at Sable International.
John very succinctly lays out the various options available for South Africans wishing to emigrate to the UK. Perhaps most exciting, he lets us know about a forthcoming change to legislation in 2022 that may open a door for many more South Africans.
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and my brother currently helms.
Two products of particu...
2021-08-1830 minSouth African Ex-PatsTanyth and Ollie moved to London, UKIn our last UK episode, I chatted to Edward and Shelley, who actually live just outside London in St. Albans. This time we're in the heart of the Big Smoke. Tanyth and Ollie live in Elephant & Castle, and have some really great big-idea thinking to share about what it's like to live in London and the UK.
Remember that if you have any specific questions you want answered, if you want me to find an interview in a specific location, or if you have any feedback on how I can improve the show, please drop me a v...
2021-08-1548 min2021-08-1106 min2021-08-1109 minSouth African Ex-PatsA South African's guide to emigrating to Canada, with Robbie RaglessI'm very excited to post the show's first expert interview.
Robbie Ragless is the CEO of New World Immigration, a company that assists South Africans with emigration to quite a few different countries and via a variety of means.
However, today we're focusing on Canada, a sought-after destination for many South Africans. It's a sobering conversation, as Robbie lays out the combination of age, skills, and other factors that will most likely lead to a successful emigration to Canada.
I can't thank Robbie enough for participating in the interview. He was informed, engaging, and...
2021-08-0958 minSouth African Ex-PatsSebastian and Alexandra moved to Frankfurt and then Älmhult, SwedenSeb and Alex were 23 and 25 when they were offered a position at an advertising agency in Germany. It's been 6 years since then, 3 of them in Frankfurt and another three in Sweden, where they currently live in a small town that IKEA calls home.
If Scandinavia, cinnamon buns, and saunas appeal to you, then Sweden is definitely worth investigating.
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and my brother currently helms.
Two products of particular interest for emigration-curious South Africans: Build-a-Set and Luggage Glo...
2021-08-0651 minSouth African Ex-PatsEdward and Shelley moved to London, UKEd and Shelley are very dear friends of mine who in fact introduced me to my wife. Ed is the UK MD of a medicinal cannabis company based in Canada, and Shelley is a media planner who is building a business around teaching media and strategy to agencies and clients.
I hope you find this insight into life in and near one of South Africa's most popular emigration destinations useful. If you have any questions or comments, you can drop me a line on the website messaging system or contact me on LinkedIn.
2021-08-0147 minSouth African Ex-PatsShan moved to Colorado Springs, USAFormerly a Camps Bay kid, Shan is now a wealth manager who lives in Colorado Springs with his wife and son (+1 20-year-old son, probably off skiing in Tahoe). Shan moved to the US when he was 20, and was adopted by his American stepfather to ease the process, so this episode is more about the lifestyle, the culture, and why Shan makes Colorado Springs and the USA his home.
If you think you know someone who could benefit from this episode or the show in general, feel free to share it with them.
If would like t...
2021-07-301h 03South African Ex-PatsZoe and Gary moved to Hampshire, England.Zoe is a client service director at an e-commerce and Shopify Plus agency. After a loss in the family, she and her husband, Gary, moved to England.
If you think you know someone who could benefit from this episode or the show in general, feel free to share it with them.
If would like tell your story, or would like to request an interview from a specific destination, I'll try to make it happen. You can drop me a message via whichever social platform you like or leave a voice message on the show website.
2021-07-2757 minSouth African Ex-PatsMoira and Constant moved to Auckland, New ZealandMoira is a freelance photographer and Constant works in tech. Together, they emigrated to Auckland and live in a beautiful house in the middle of a sub-tropical forest, a stones throw from the beach. However, Aukland isn't all hobbits and roses.
You can check out Moira's Instagram Highlight about their move to NZ, at @moirameiring
If you think you know someone who could benefit from this episode or the show in general, feel free to share it with them.
If would like tell your story, or would like to request an interview from a specific destination, I'll try to ma...
2021-07-2544 minSouth African Ex-PatsAlex moved to Valencia, Spain, with his partner and sonAlex Searle is a filmmaker, podcaster and founder of a production company (Lake Productions), who decided to take advantage of his ancestral Spanish passport by moving his family to Valencia.
You can support this show by supporting Luggage Warehouse, the business my father started in the 80s, and my brother currently helms.
Two products of particular interest for emigration-curious South Africans: Build-a-Set and Luggage Glove.
If you need luggage, accessories, handbags, leather goods, noise-cancelling headphones and other awesome travel stuff, please check out Luggage Warehouse. We deliver nationwide and are just better than the comp...
2021-07-2339 minSouth African Ex-PatsReeva moved to Perth, Australia, with her husband and babyEpisode 1 is in the can on this, the world's fastest production schedule. I was overwhelmed by the immediate response to the show trailer and announcement post and resolved to get as many interviews done, as quickly as possible. Reeva Cutting popped up on my list and became the pilot interview of the show.
Reeva is an old friend of mine who spent 9 or so years in the UK, and then settled in Perth, where she lives with her husband and primary-school-aged son.
She's the perfect 1st interview for this show because it turns out she...
2021-07-2043 minSouth African Ex-PatsShow TrailerHi everyone. I'm Jonathan Warncke, and this is South African ex-pats.
This is a quick trailer explaining the show, but here's a cheatsheet for those short on time or attention:
This is a podcast for South Africans thinking of moving to another country.
Firstly, we talk to those who have done it. We hear about their experiences, find out what legal hoops they had to jump through, and who helped them get there. We also talk about life in their new homes, what they love and hate, what they miss in SA, and w...
2021-07-1703 min2021-07-0110 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Getting dad fat.Here's an update and my worries about being an out of shape dad. 😕
2021-05-0706 minHi Ben, this is your dad.I'm not the dad you knowToday I'm 40 and you're just over 9 months. How old will you be when you hear this?
2021-04-0400 min2021-04-0407 min2021-04-0405 minHi Ben, this is your dad.8 months, teething, thinking about crawlingLike the title says, plus random updates from your dad's life.
2021-02-2008 minHi Ben, this is your dad.January update.Just a quick update on adjusted lockdown, my work, and how you're growing.
2021-01-2507 minHi Ben, this is your dad.You and the ukeYou love the ukulele. Maybe you'll play one when you grow up.
2021-01-1301 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Coronavirus update.Here's a quick update on the state of the nation and your granny.
2021-01-1204 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Your first Christmas.It was not a simple Christmas, but it was a joyous one.
2020-12-2808 minHi Ben, this is your dad.A quick message from your fairy godmotherAuntie Tanyth just got out of the Atlantic and wants to say hi.
2020-12-1100 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Tanyth, your fairy godmotherYour aunt Tanyth and now your godmother is visiting us.
2020-12-1101 min2020-11-1302 min2020-11-0702 minHi Ben, this is your dad.Living by the beachI never really liked the beach, but that changed as I got older? You're going to grow up on the beach, so I imagine you love it.
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