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The JabotBiglaw Partner Shares What It's Really Like To Work In Intellectual Property Law with Olga BersonKathryn Rubino chats with Olga Berson partner at Thompson Coburn. Olga shares her journey from a scientist to a top patent attorney, tackling AI’s impact on patentability and the evolving biosimilar litigation. Her unique insights and balance between law and ballroom dancing make it an inspiring episode! Highlights Path from science to patent law. Patent lawyers as the geeks of the law field. Collaborating across legal disciplines. Day-to-day life of a patent partner. Unique career spanning patent prosecution, litigation, and more. Key iss...2025-05-2321 min
The JabotGetting Real About Being A Divorce Lawyer with Padideh JafariKathryn Rubino chats with Padideh Jafari founder and CEO of Jafari Law and Mediation Office. Discover Padideh’s inspiring journey from a five-year-old aspiring lawyer to a successful family law practitioner and advocate. With fascinating insights into handling high-conflict divorce cases, Jafari offers valuable advice for budding lawyers on balancing a demanding career with personal well-being. Tune in for a dose of inspiration and practical tips. Highlights Inspiration to pursue law from age five. Overcoming skepticism and pursuing legal education. Challenges and attrition in law school leading to camaraderie....2025-05-1625 min
The JabotClimbing Through The Law Firm Ranks To Become Managing Partner with Cayce LynchKathryn Rubino chats with Cayce Lynch, the new national managing partner at Tyson & Mendes. Discover Cayce’s inspiring journey from paralegal to managing partner, the unique culture at her firm, and how they’re innovating in defense law. An uplifting listen for aspiring legal professionals! Highlights Deciding to go to law school. Mentors and law school experience. Discovering a passion for civil procedure. Moving to California and taking the bar. Discovering the right firm by chance. Why Tyson & Mendes is the perfect fit....2025-05-0926 min
The JabotWhat It Really Takes To Be On The Path To Biglaw Partnership with Jesse-Justin CuevasKathryn Rubino chats with Jesse-Justin Cuevas, partner at Susman Godfrey, about her inspiring journey from high school debater to a successful litigation partner. Discover her insights on balancing a high-stakes legal career with personal life and why mentorship is crucial. A must-listen for aspiring lawyers and anyone curious about the legal profession! Highlights Decision to pursue law school Business disputes as human disputes Typical day for a litigation partner Importance of mentorship Path to partnership at Susman Godfrey Early career realization through intense casework Benefits of clerkship experiences Balancing personal life with a legal career ...2025-05-0224 min
The JabotThe Sidley Associate Arguing At The Supreme Court with Peter BrulandKathryn Rubino chats with Peter Bruland, a Senior Managing Associate at Sidley, who is set to argue before the Supreme Court! Discover his inspiring journey from law school to tackling crucial, high-stakes legal issues. Don’t miss this captivating episode filled with insights into Supreme Court advocacy and the balance between pro bono work and career development. It’s a must-listen for aspiring lawyers and anyone intrigued by the art of legal persuasion. Highlights Discovering law through criminal procedure class. Thrill of solving puzzles in appellate work. First Sidley associate to argue before the Supreme Court. Stak...2025-04-2521 min
The JabotThe Reality Of The Death Penalty Is Even Worse Than You Think with Corinna LainKathryn Rubino chats with Corinna Lain who reveals the chilling realities of lethal injection as detailed in her new book, “Secrets of the Killing State.” This episode exposes the grim processes hidden from the public eye, challenging perceptions on the death penalty. A must-listen for insights into a controversial legal practice! Highlights Legal Academia: Balance of Teaching and Publishing University of Richmond: Teaching Importance Journey to Death Penalty Expertise Initial Skepticism About Supreme Court The Fragility of Lethal Injection Doctrine vs. Reality: Protecting Unpopular Minorities Changing Views on Death Penalty Execution Process: Front-Row Seat Case Example: Bria...2025-04-1826 min
The JabotCharting The Path To Mediator with Joann RezzoKathryn Rubino chats with Joann Rezzo who shares her unconventional journey from aspiring CIA agent to law school, through big law, and eventually to mediation. Joan highlights the power of empathy, her knack for negotiation, and how varied experiences helped shape her career, enriching both her mediation skills and her personal growth. Hear Joann’s vibrant anecdotes, including a clever courtroom victory involving an unexpected witness. A must-listen for insights on navigating a diverse legal career path and finding fulfillment. Highlights Choosing law school over CIA. Navigating a nepotistic law school environment. Career path: Fro...2025-04-1125 min
The JabotThe Battle For The Heart Of The First Amendment Is Heating Up with David EnrichKathryn Rubino chats with David Enrich, business investigations editor at The New York Times and author of “Murder The Truth.” They explore the powerful influence of big law firms and the current landscape of defamation law that threatens journalistic freedom. With insights on media regulations and Sullivan’s landmark case, this episode sheds light on the implications for free speech and democracy, a must-listen for anyone intrigued by media law and its societal impact. Highlights AI-powered legal research tool. Encountering lawyers in financial scandals. Power and secrecy of big law firms. Importance of New York Times v. Sul...2025-04-0426 min
The JabotFinding Your Perfect Spot In The Legal Profession with Lisa LandyKathryn Rubino chats with Lisa Landy, a Principal at Therrel Baisden. Discover Lisa’s journey into law, her passion for probate litigation, and insights on mentoring and firm growth. Perfect for aspiring lawyers! Highlights Transition to probate litigation. Key personality traits for probate practice. Mentorship’s role in law firms. Legacy of a century-old law firm. Impact of firm growth from 4 to 14 attorneys. Passion for courtroom experiences. The impact of Zoom on legal proceedings. Pros and cons of virtual and in-person court. Memorable mediation experience. Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus Link...2025-03-2819 min
The JabotJudicial Philosophies Are Way Overrated with Mark TushnetKathryn Rubino chats with Harvard Law’s Prof. Mark Tushnet, exploring his new book, “Who Am I to Judge?” Tushnet critiques the Supreme Court’s originalism and questions the narrow experience of justices. A must-listen to rethink judicial norms and hear Tushnet’s engaging perspectives on ideal court nominations and even the question of favorite books! Highlights The genesis of a legal career: from political science to law school. Critique of judicial review’s evolution since the 1970s. Democrats rely on courts against the Trump administration. Background of the book “Who Am I to Judge?” Insight on Supreme Court...2025-03-2127 min
The JabotYou Can Actually Balance A Legal Career And Family Life with Edward OrtegaKathryn Rubino and personal injury attorney Edward Ortega dive into the nuances of legal careers. From unexpected courtroom experiences to the role of technology in modern law practice, Edward shares his journey from family law to the largest personal injury firm in North Carolina. Discover the highs and lows of lawyering and learn why finding your fit can make all the difference in work-life balance. Perfect for aspiring lawyers and legal professionals looking for genuine insights! Highlights Why Law School? A Personal Story The Reality vs. TV: Being an Attorney What I Wish I Knew About...2025-03-1428 min
The JabotA Lawyer's Quest To Help Victims Of Abuse with Alreen HaeggquistKathryn Rubino chats with special guest Alreen Haeggquist, an attorney and author of “Fired Up! Fueling Triumph from Trauma.” Discover Alreen’s inspiring journey of turning personal trauma into a powerful legal career advocating for abuse survivors. It’s a heartfelt discussion on resilience, the therapeutic power of speaking out, and finding balance in emotionally charged legal work. Perfect for aspiring lawyers seeking purpose and passion in their careers. Highlights Importance of Sharing Personal Stories: Helping others by sharing one’s own trauma. Emotional Connection: Relating personal experiences to client advocacy. Speaking Out: The significanc...2025-03-0718 min
The JabotPlaying Games With The Supreme Court with Talia RosenKathryn Rubino chats with Talia Rosen, the lawyer-turned-board game creator. Her game, “First Monday in October”, offers a strategic dive into U.S. Supreme Court history. Discover her creative process and how it brings legal history alive in an engaging way. Tune in for behind-the-scenes insights into her 10-year journey from concept to a playable reality! Highlights Law school decision: Intentional or accidental? First Monday in October: Supreme Court-themed board game. Game mechanics: Historical cases and justices. Balancing day job and game creation. Board Game Creation: Creative process and iteration. Game testing: Community feedback and play-testing even...2025-02-2828 min
The JabotWho Gets To Call Themselves A 'Professional'? Law Professor Breaks Down The Licensing Scheme with Rebecca Haw AllensworthKathryn Rubino chats with Rebecca Haw Allensworth, a Vanderbilt Law School professor and author of “The Licensing Racket”. Discover the untold stories behind professional licensing, the unexpected impact on various careers, and why these regulations might not always serve the public. Rebecca’s firsthand research brings intriguing insights into how licensing affects professions from barbers to doctors and potential reforms. Don’t miss this chance to rethink the system that shapes many of our careers!. Highlights English vs. Law: Career advice. Antitrust: Economical dominance. Licensing paper: Supreme Court citation. Licensing board meetings investigation. Self-regulation across professions. Over-reg...2025-02-2124 min
The JabotThe Fight For Rights Continues: The View From Legal Academia with Jackie GardinaKathryn Rubino chats with Jackie Gardina, Dean and Chief Academic Officer of The Colleges of Law, about systemic change, legal education, and the hurdles to entering the legal profession. Gain insights on LGBTQ rights, bar exam reform, and advice for future law students. A must-listen for those interested in modern legal challenges! Highlights From clinical therapy to a passion for law. Systemic change as a career theme. Multiple pathways to change: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Legal battles and the evolution of rights. Repeal challenges for LGBTQIA rights. Voting rights history as a movem...2025-02-1427 min
The JabotCriminal Defense Attorney Fights For Clients With Mental Disabilities with Elizabeth KelleyKathryn Rubino chats with Elizabeth Kelley, a dedicated criminal defense attorney fighting for justice for individuals with mental disabilities. Kelley shares her journey from literature student to a passionate advocate in a field needing reform. Her insights into mental health law and her hands-on approach to client representation are inspiring and thought-provoking. Tune in to discover why compassion and understanding are vital in the legal world, and how her work hopes to shape a more inclusive justice system. Highlights Balancing humanities and law. Outrage about mental disabilities. Finding fulfillment in criminal defense. Starting a law firm...2024-11-1923 min
The JabotYou Have To Change How You Think About Free Speech with Mary Anne FranksKathryn Rubino chats with Mary Anne Franks, a leading voice in Intellectual Property and Civil Rights Law. Uncover the essence of fearless speech and why it’s crucial in today’s world. Explore bold concepts from her new book that challenge conventional First Amendment beliefs. A must-listen for anyone intrigued by legal boundaries and free speech dynamics! Highlights Life and career updates since 2020. Transition from Miami to George Washington University. Balancing academia and publication. Clear communication as education and writing goal. Importance of free speech. Why focus on the First Amendment in the second book...2024-11-0533 min
The JabotUsing Your Law Degree For Good with Dale Margolin CeckaIn this episode, host Kathryn Rubino interviews Dale Margolin Cecka, Albany Law School professor and director of family violence litigation. Discover her journey in law, challenges in child advocacy, and insights on family law education. Gain a deeper understanding of domestic violence legislation, its impact on survivors, and potential legal reforms. A must-listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and societal change! Highlights Why law school: a journey to child advocacy. Transition from child advocacy to family law. Challenges with systems in child advocacy. Discovering a passion for family law. Law school clinics: bridging p...2024-10-2228 min
The JabotHarvard Law Grad Shares What You Really Need To Know Before Applying To Law School with Calandra AlmondJoin Kathryn Rubino as she chats with Harvard Law grad and Juris Education admissions counselor Calandra Almond. Discover how to navigate law school admissions, balance career goals, and set realistic expectations. Almond’s personal journey offers invaluable insights—don’t miss out! Highlights Personal law school journey. Considering what you want your life to look like. Admissions counseling and career mistakes. Making realistic decisions about law school. The importance of the LSAT. Diversity in law school admissions and potential impacts. Be true to yourself and what you want out of life. Episode Sponsored By https...2024-09-2422 min
The JabotFiguring Out If Family Law Is For You with Holly J. MooreDive into The Jabot podcast with Kathryn Rubino featuring Holly J. Moore, founder of Moore Family Law! Holly shares her journey from soul-sucking construction defect cases to the emotionally charged world of family law. Learn about the realities, challenges, and rewards of starting your own firm. Find out why family law “finds you” and get inspired by her tips for aspiring lawyers. Don’t miss this engaging and honest conversation—perfect for anyone interested in the human aspect of legal practice. Highlights Why pursue law? Early inspiration. “You don’t find family law, family law finds you.” Shift...2024-09-1024 min
The JabotThe Power Of Quitting Biglaw To Pursue A Childhood Dream with Jiadai LinKathryn Rubino chats with Jiadai Lin, author and winner of the Sandra Carpenter Prize for Creative Nonfiction. Discover Jiadai’s journey from big law to heartfelt storytelling, balancing law and literature with grace. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation on following your true passion! Highlights The straightforwardness of a legal career versus the uncertainty of a writing career. Jiadai’s compartmentalization of her law career and writing career. The emotional impact and challenges of leaving Big Law to pursue writing. The struggle and eventual acceptance of failures in her early writing career. The flexibility and benefits of wor...2024-09-0324 min
The JabotBiglaw Firm Steps Up Big In Pro Bono with Rachel ElkinJoin host Kathryn Rubino who chats with Rachel Elkin, Pro Bono Counsel at Haynes Boone. Discover Rachel’s journey from a family of lawyers to championing public interest work and navigating her unexpected transition into Big Law. Gain insights on the rewarding and challenging aspects of pro bono work and how it shapes careers and communities. A must-listen for legal enthusiasts and those inspired by impactful lawyering. Highlights Why Rachel Elkin went to law school. First exposure to public interest law. Importance of law school clinics. Key mentorship in law school. How Rachel secured her first no...2024-08-2725 min
The JabotLaw As The First Step In Nuclear Weapon Abolition with Charles MoxleyJoin host Kathryn Rubino in a riveting episode with law professor Charles Moxley, expert and author of “Nuclear Weapons and International Law”. Discover the legal complexities and real-world implications of nuclear policy, deterrence, and modernization. Can law guide us towards nuclear abolition? Stay informed and engaged! Highlights Examining the US’s nuclear policies versus international law. The esoteric nature of international law and its neglect. Different alerts and readiness levels in nuclear weapons policy. Legal principle of precaution and US non-compliance. Distinction, proportionality, and necessity in nuclear law. Nuclear deterrence vs. readiness explained. Russia-Ukraine conflict’s impact on...2024-08-2028 min
The JabotFrom Child Star To Lawyer with Kelly HymanKathryn Rubino welcomes Kelly Hyman, founder of the Hyman Law Firm and host of “Once Upon a Crime in Hollywood”. Journey through Kelly’s shift from a childhood acting career to making a significant impact in the legal world, advocating for victims of human trafficking and navigating the complexities of starting her own law firm. Kelly shares her passion for true crime and how her podcast, focusing on Hollywood-related cases with female victims, aims to make a difference. An inspiring listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and compelling storytelling! Highlights The impact of a 65-year-old law sc...2024-08-1323 min
The JabotThe Journey From Incarceration To Law Student And Beyond with Jonas CaballeroDive into an inspiring episode as Kathryn Rubino hosts Albany law student Jonas Caballero. Discover Jonas’s incredible journey from protesting the Iraq War to overcoming incarceration and addiction, now excelling in law school and fighting for civil rights. A must-listen for a story of resilience and advocacy. Highlights Reporting on human rights in the West Bank. Struggle with PTSD leading to incarceration. Roadblocks faced in re-entry post-incarceration. Rejection from multiple law schools due to criminal history. Persistence and honesty leading to law school acceptance. Overcoming 1L challenges as a non-traditional student. Continuous self-reminder of...2024-06-2820 min
The JabotHow To Go From Just A Lawyer To A Rainmaker with Sejal PatelIn this episode, Kathryn interviewed Sejal Patel from Sage Ivy Consulting. Sejal traces her unique career from law to consulting, emphasizing that law schools should better guide students about alternative legal careers and business development. She suggests young lawyers maintain their professional relationships from law school, cultivate new ones through LinkedIn and conferences, and develop friendships with clients. Together with Kathryn, they stress the importance of early start in professional networking and continuous learning for a successful career. Highlights Navigating the paths after law school and confronting the realities of alternative legal careers Encouraging business development...2024-02-2323 min
The JabotWhat You Need To Know: How The Courts Define Emojis with Leslie Garfield TenzerIn this episode, Kathryn speaks with Leslie Garfield Tenzer, a professor at Pace University School of Law. Professor Tenzer discusses how she decided to get into legal academia and the twists and turns of her career that have led her to this point. She tells Kathryn why she decided to write the Legal Emoji Dictionary, and speaks about how emojis have been used in legal cases. She shares which emojis have a surprising legal definition, and talks about some of the pitfalls for lawyers if their cases do involve emojis. Episode Resources https://law.pace...2022-04-1527 min
The JabotLawyers Are The Heroes And The Villains In Alex Jones Defamation Case with Elizabeth WilliamsonIn this episode of The Jabot Kathryn chats with Elizabeth Williamson, author of Sandy Hook: An American Tragedy and the Battle for Truth. They chat about the ins and outs of the defamation cases filed by families of the victims of the tragic Sandy Hook mass shooting against the infamous Infowars host Alex Jones. What was billed as an epic First Amendment showdown fizzled to a default judgment with a lot of money potentially on the line. Elizabeth and Kathryn discuss the role of lawyers on both sides of this legal battle. Episode Resources Sandy...2022-04-0825 min
The JabotInsults Are Undermining Your Civil Rights with Ruth ColkerIn this episode, Kathryn speaks with professor and author Ruth Colker about her path to legal academia and how she came up with the concept for her new book. Ruth discusses why conservatives have been able to win the rhetorical battle on so many issues using insults, and how progressives can flip the script. She also talks about how the insult playbook has played out in relation to #MeToo cases, and the current SCOTUS term. Episode Resources https://wgss.osu.edu/people/colker.2 https://directory.cbalaw.org/profile/ruth-colker https://www.amazon.com/Ruth-Colker/e...2022-01-0727 min
The JabotHarnessing the Power of Women Entrepreneurs with Gabriela IsturizIn this episode, Kathryn speaks with entrepreneur Gabriela Isturiz about the ups and downs of working in the legal tech space. They discuss what led to the founding of Gabriela's Fund XX, and why it is so important to harness the power of women investors and entrepreneurs. Gabriela also shares the advice she has for folks getting involved in the legal tech space. Episode Resources https://thefund.vc/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielaisturiz Episode Highlights The twists and turns of Gabriela Isturiz’s career. - 1:14 Some of the challenges she faced wh...2021-12-3024 min
The JabotThe Quest For Justice Shapes A Legal Career with Elizabeth ToddIn this episode, Kathryn speaks with Elizabeth Todd, an attorney with the law offices of James Scott Farrin, about the twists and turns her career has taken to get her to where she is today. Elizabeth shares what a typical day looks like for her, and discusses how COVID has impacted the personal injury and nursing home negligence space. She also shares her biggest battles as a result of COVID and speaks about what nursing home policy should look like. Additionally, Elizabeth talks about the biggest successes and failures of her career and what she has learned from them.2021-12-2323 min
The JabotHelping New Parents Return to the Office -- The Legal Profession Can Do Better with Lori Mihalich-LevinThe transition to parenthood is not easy if you belong in the legal industry. How to survive working as a parent? Kathryn speaks with Lori Mihalich-Levin, a health care lawyer in private practice at her firm. She is the founder of The Mindful Return, a platform that helps parents in planning a radiant, empowered, and smooth return from leave. Lori shares her reason for entering law school and the twist and turns in her career. Being a mother of two was not easy for her. However, she will discuss how it brought her to conceptualize her passion...2021-12-1725 min
The JabotSmall Law Can Be Just the Right Size For You with Yvonne CortKathryn speaks with Yvonne Cort, partner at Capell, Barnett, Matalon & Schoenfeld, about how her law school career goals matched up with her actual career. Yvonne discusses how she settled on her practice area and the process of making a lateral move during a pandemic. She also speaks about the benefits of small firms, and what it's like being the only woman partner at her firm. Yvonne also shares her advice for folks just starting their legal career. Episode Resources https://cbmslaw.com/team/yvonne-r-cort/ Episode Highlights Why did Yvonne Cort d...2021-12-1025 min
The JabotJudge Sounds Off On How to Fix a Broken Judicial System with Judge LaDoris Hazzard CordellKathryn speaks with Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell about how she made her way onto the bench and the decision behind writing her recent book. They also discuss some of the biggest responsibilities and challenges Judge Cordell has faced during her time on the bench, and she shares some of the hardest cases she has presided over. Judge Cordell also details how her experience as a Black queer woman has shaped her opinion on the justice system, and what she thinks is broken about our judicial system (and how it might be fixed). Episode Resources Her...2021-12-0327 min
The JabotSupreme Court Justices Are People Too with Joshua PragerIn this episode, Kathryn speaks with journalist and author Joshua Prager about why he chose Roe as the subject of his most recent book, and what is so compelling about Norma McCorvey's story. They also discuss what we know now about the deal Justice Souter struck to save Roe in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. Josh also explains why he thinks it is important to excavate the history of the cases that established and codified reproductive rights when those freedoms are very much in peril at the Supreme Court. Episode Resources The Family Roe https...2021-11-2929 min
The JabotHow Lawyers Can Find Their North Star with Terrie CampbellIn this episode, Kathryn and Terrie Campbell, the Chief Executive Officer at Esquire Deposition Solutions, discuss how the pandemic has impacted the legal tech space and the biggest lessons of the past two years. Terrie shares why she believes it's so challenging to embrace change, and what it means to find your personal North Star. Terrie also talks about whether it’s possible to actually achieve work/life balance in the Biglaw space, and why she established the Council for Action. Episode Resources https://www.esquiresolutions.com/about-us/executive-leadership/terrie-campbell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/te...2021-11-1928 min
The JabotBiglaw Partner Dishes On the Pandemic's Impact On the Cannabis Industry, Diversity and Fulfilling Your Family's Legacy with Meghana ShahKathryn speaks with Meghana Shah, partner at Eversheds Sutherland, about why her practice area was appealing and what an average day looks like for her. They discuss how the pandemic impacted Meghana's practice and what she thinks is on the horizon for the cannabis industry. Meghana shares her tips for others hoping to become a Biglaw partner and some of the highs and lows of her career. Kathryn and Meghana also chat about why diversity has been such a challenge for the legal industry, and what Meghana thinks can be done to improve D&I efforts. ...2021-11-1229 min
The JabotSometimes Dealing With Jerks Just Isn't Worth It with Fran PerdomoThis week, Kathryn speaks with Fran Perdomo, partner at Gallet Dreyer & Berkey, about why she went to law school and how she decided on her practice area. They discuss Fran's biggest career success and failure, and what she learned from both of those. Fran shares what virtual lawyering has been like during the pandemic, and whether she thinks that makes it harder or easier to balance the rest of one's life. Fran also talks about how the pandemic brought that balancing act in focus. Episode Resources https://www.perdomolaw.com/ https://www.linkedin...2021-11-0526 min
The JabotThe Legal World's Cassandra Has A Lot To Tell Us with Linda HirshmanWhat’s the biggest social issue that you’ve heard? How were the people, even the government, decided to handle it? In this episode, Kathryn chats with lawyer, cultural historian, and author Linda Hirshman about her decision to go to law school and the evolution of her career from labor attorney to best-selling author. They discuss how Linda picks what subjects to delve into for her books, and why her latest book, about the abolition movement, is such an important story to tell. They chat about how Linda views the legacy of Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bade...2021-10-2933 min
The JabotBehind Biglaw's Dismal Diversity Numbers with Kerry BennSurveys are not just a way for a law firm to know the numbers and to gain information. It also helps strengthen the firm’s relationship with its associates. One of the top legal news services in the country, Law360, conducts the Glass Ceiling Survey — and this centers Kathryn’s discussion with Law360’s Kerry Benn. Kerry presents not only the numbers that result from the Glass Ceiling Survey, she also talks about the disparity between the law school numbers and the actual law firm numbers and what she thinks are the reasons why there are fewer women, e...2021-10-2227 min
The JabotTiming Really Is Everything with Anna BrookIt is all being in the right place at the right time: However, there are some life decisions that we already have in place, which can change easily without you knowing. Kathryn welcomes Anna Brook, whose life changed even if she already made several plans for her future. Set to be an engineer, Anna decided to take a leap of faith and go to Law School in Harvard — and now, she’s a successful patent lawyer. Anna and Kathryn chat about the twist and turns of her career that got her to where she is now. They also...2021-10-1525 min
The JabotYes, You Can Balance Kids, Horses and Biglaw Partnership with Christi CampbellCorporate, civil rights, criminal, family, and intellectual: These are just a few of the fields of law that you can specialize in. If you get to choose, which one would you like to focus on? In this episode, Kathryn and Christi discussed the advice that Christi has for those trying to decide what practice works best for them. She also shares her advice for others on the path to partnership. Christi talks about what it was like working with clients on their brands during the pandemic, and what surprises she faced during that process. She also discusses...2021-10-0835 min
The JabotCreating an 'All Girls Network' with Michelle BrowningIt is challenging to start a career in the legal industry, especially for women. In what was believed as a men-controlled community, how can female lawyers and legal counsels make a name for themselves? Kathryn sits down with Michelle Browning to talk about making a voice not only as a female lawyer but also as a working mom, in the legal industry. Michelle shares her success story of building an all-girls network that started with MothersEsquire. She also discusses the different programs that MothersEsquire started to promote gender equality. Episode Resources Good to...2021-10-0130 min
The JabotIt's All About the Money with Betiayn TursiWhen it comes to being a lawyer, what are the adversaries and challenges that you might face? In this episode, Kathryn welcomes Betiayn as she shares the twists and turns of her career that got her to where she is today. Betiayn talks about how the legal industry has evolved, particularly in respect to diversity, during the course of her career. They also discuss what led up to the founding of WILEF and the work she's most proud of. Betiayn also shares about why WILEF decided to change the Gold Standard criteria, and the main takeaways from...2021-09-2426 min
The JabotIt's Been Quite The Year For Business Interruption Insurance -- Just Ask This Biglaw Partner with Linda KornfeldBuilding a career in the law field can be both challenging and rewarding: Especially if your field of interest is uncommon. In today’s episode, Kathryn interviews Linda Kornfeld. Linda shares why she attended law school and how she landed in her practice area: As an Insurance Recovery Attorney. She also gives advice for others who are looking for their career niche, as well as her experiences with business interruption insurance over the past year and what Biglaw can do to foster diversity. Episode Resources https://www.blankrome.com/people/linda-kornfeld Episode Hig...2021-09-1727 min
The JabotBiglaw Document Review Is The Perfect Backdrop For A Legal Thriller with Lindsay CameronIs having a law degree a great tool that opens up a lot of doors and opportunities? In this episode, Kathryn welcomes Lindsay to discuss her pivot to writing from her career in law. They discuss her process of writing her second novel and how different it is from the process of her first book. Lindsay also shares her advice for lawyers and legal professionals who are looking to break into writing. Episode Resources Just One Look by Lindsay Cameron Episode Highlights Why did Lindsay join law school? - 1:14 Beyond writing, what’s...2021-09-1026 min
The JabotAn Outsider's Perspective on the Legal industry with Ritu KhannaCan someone who’s not a lawyer get involved in the legal industry? In this episode, Kathryn and Ritu discussed the twists and turns of Ritu’s career which led her to her current role in the male-dominated space of the legal industry. Ritu spoke about whether she ever felt her accomplishments were undermined because of her race or gender and how she dealt with those feelings. She also shared her advice for others who are coming up in white or male spaces as well as her perspective on the legal industry. Episode Resources http...2021-09-0327 min
The JabotThe History of Female Law Professors with Patricia CainKathryn interviews Patricia Cain, one of the authors of Paving the Way, about the twists and turns of her life and career: from going to law school, being part of a circus troupe to starting a career in the legal academia. Patricia highlights her experiences not only as a teacher but also her experiences in law school. She also shared the best lessons she learned, especially for those who want to start a life in legal academia. Episode Resources Paving the Way Episode Highlights Introducing the guest: Patricia Cain. - 0:38 The...2021-08-2726 min
The JabotHow a Partner's Fear of Flying Turned Into a Legacy for His Children with Mark HsuKathryn spoke with Mark Hsu about his experiences as a lawyer, author, and father. They also discussed how Mark drew a line and a balance between legal practice and parenthood. Additionally, they talked about some of the challenges that Mark faced while starting as a lawyer up to creating different lessons for his book that he can pass down to his children. Episode Resources Please Open in the Event of My Death Please Open in the Event of My Death Audio Book Episode Highlights Why did Mark decide to go to...2021-08-2028 min
The JabotThe Problem With Identity Capitalists with Nancy LeongKathryn spoke with Nancy Leong about why she went to law school, and the career twists and turns that resulted in her winding up where she is. They also discussed how she came up with the term “identity capitalist”, and the personal anecdotes included in her book. They also spoke about hidden in-group agendas and strategies she recommends for those in out-groups. Episode Resources https://www.law.du.edu/about/people/nancy-leong Episode Highlights Why she went to law school - 1:30 Her legal path - 2:27 Moving to the Academia - 4:04 Expla...2021-08-0632 min
The JabotBest Friends and Firm Co-Founders On the Best Way to Run a Virtual Practice with Kelly Culhane and Heather Clauson HaughianKathryn spoke with Kelly and Heather about the process of opening up their own firm, and the values they believe to be the most important when establishing a practice. They also discussed the particular benefits and challenges of being best friends and business partners, as well as the biggest changes to their firm due to COVID. They also spoke about tips for practicing law virtually. Episode Resources https://www.culhanemeadows.com/all-attorneys/ Kelly Culhane (krc@cm.law) and Heather Clauson Haughian (hhaughian@cm.law) Episode Highlights “Getting back to normal” - 1:06 Knowing their back...2021-07-2326 min
The JabotHow Women Can Use Networking to Leverage the Hot Lateral Market with Lauren DrakeKathryn interviewed Lauren Drake where they discussed, among other things, how her career evolved to her position at Macrae. They talked about how the "Female Law Firm Leaders Roundtable" got started and how the pandemic shaped that launch. They also discussed how FLFL benefits its members and issues tackled by the roundtable over the last year. Additionally, they dive into how women leaders can leverage the hot lateral market to benefit their careers. Episode Resources Lauren.Drake@macrae.com https://www.macrae.com/lauren-drake https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurendrake/ ...2021-07-1626 min
The JabotWhat Students Absolutely Need to Do to Ace Law School with Shailini GeorgeKathryn interviewed Shailini George about her experiences as a legal writing professor and the process of writing The Law Students' Guide to Doing Well and Being Well. They also discuss how distraction addiction became an interest for her. Their conversation includes Shailini's thoughts on how law students should use wellness practices to improve their law school experience, as well as some tips for law students to get into the studying zone. Episode Resources Shailini George, sjgeorge@suffolk.edu https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/faculty/s/j/sjgeorge Episode Highlights Having an A-HA m...2021-07-0925 min
The JabotWhy Saying “No” to Business Can Actually Pay Off with Thomas DouglasKathryn interviewed Thomas Douglas about his role as a community and industry leader. They discuss the process of opening his own firm, as well as the biggest challenges and rewards of that experience. They also chat about how to create a tolerant and affirming law firm culture. Additionally, they speak about balancing the pressures of the business side of the firm with the legal practice. Episode Resources tdouglas@douglasmcdaniel.com https://www.douglasmcdaniel.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-douglas-781a7010/ Episode Highlights Why he went to law school - 1:19 Wh...2021-07-0227 min
The JabotWhat Law Firms Need to Do to Support New Parents with Elle McCultyKathryn chats with Elle McCulty, partner at Waller Law and chair of the firm's Women's Leadership Council. They discuss balancing firm leadership with her practice, the programs the Council implemented, the firm's recognition by Working Mother magazine, and how the firm supports the re-entry of new parents into firm life. They also talk about why it is important for firms to make a concerted effort to support parents in the workplace and advice younger attorneys trying to have it all. Episode Resources https://www.wallerlaw.com/our-people/51/Elle-McCulty Episode Highlights Why she m...2021-06-2526 min
The JabotInside the World Of Biglaw Diversity Efforts with Maria MelendezKathryn talks with Maria Melendez about why she Ieft the practice of law to become Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer at Sidley. They chat about the unique challenges in this role and how she leverages her past experience. They discuss setting goals and benchmarks in the D&I space, the kinds of programs that pay the biggest dividends in the D&I world, and how a firm encourages attorneys to participate in D&I efforts, particularly during a pandemic when attorneys are already stretched thin. Episode Resources https://www.sidley.com/en/people/m...2021-06-1826 min
The JabotFrom Biglaw to Criminal Justice Reform with MiAngel CodyMiAngel Cody and Kathryn chat about her passion for criminal defense work and the problems with the three-strikes law. They talk about the role of social media and Kim Kardashian in justice work, about how the #90DaysOfFreedom Campaign got started, and why The Decarceration Collective is so important. MiAngel has been labeled a "Legal Legend" a "Changemaker" and a "Powerhouse Litigator" and it turns out she's great at giving advice to lawyers who are getting started in their careers and want to work on reform issues. They chat about the successes she's had in this work and also the...2021-06-1130 min
The JabotAccess to Justice in More Than Just the Criminal Context with Jennifer McGloneKathryn speaks with Jennifer McGlone, co-founder of Law Champs. They chat about why she decided to start the organization, how that experience was impacted by the pandemic and the goals of Law Champs. They also discuss the Biden administration's recent change in transgender healthcare protections and what that means for folks on the ground and why they’re so important. Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-mcglone-ab98858 https://www.lawchamps.com/lawchamps-team Episode Highlights Why she decided to go to law school - 1:14 Choosing to pursue law school - 1:48 Understanding the pro...2021-06-0424 min
The JabotMaking the Most of Your Working From Home Legal Practice with Becky Greenfield and Cristina RodriguezKathryn talks with Becky Greenfield and Cristina Rodriguez of Wolfe Pincavage about the new normal -- working from home. They chat about how WFH has changed the way you practice and to figure out how to grow professionally in the virtual environment, and how business development plays a role in that. They discuss what firm leaders can do to better mentor team members and foster collaborative environments. Episode Resources https://wolfepincavage.com/team/becky-greenfield/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/becky-greenfield-83b0a988 https://www.linkedin.com/in/cristinarodriguez22/ https://wolfepincavage.com/team/cristina-rodriguez/ 2021-05-2825 min
The JabotA Biglaw Firm That Really Cares with Katya Jestin and Randy MehrbergKathryn chats with Jenner & Block’s Co-Managing Partners, Katya Jestin, and Randy Mehrberg. They discuss their overall philosophy for managing a Biglaw firm, prioritizing diversity, the challenges in trying to create a unified culture across a giant firm, and how the pandemic heightened those issues. They also talk about Jenner & Block representation of Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight Action and the need to modernize the Voting Rights Act. Episode Resources https://jenner.com/about/managingpartner https://jenner.com/people/RandallMehrberg https://jenner.com/people/KatyaJestin Episode Highlights Starting with a vision - 1:24 How diver...2021-05-2126 min
The JabotMaking Lasting Changes in the Legal Industry with Sona PancholyKathryn talks with Sona Pancholy, president of Meritas about the twists and turns of her career that took her to Meritas. They also talk about her goals as president and how she leverages her own personal story in achieving it. Also, they discuss the recently launched Black Lawyers Forum and Women’s Leadership Congress and why that was such a priority in the wake of the murder of George Floyd. Episode Resources https://twitter.com/spancholy?lang=en spancholy@meritas.org https://www.meritas.org/team https://www.linkedin.com/in/spancholy/ Epi...2021-05-1428 min
The JabotBridging the Diversity Gap in the Legal Profession with Brandi RussellKathryn talks with Brandi Russell, Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer at Balch & Bingham about her new position and how her career has twisted to bring her here. They also talk about the goals and benchmarks for the firm and two D&I initiatives the firm is passionate about -- the Balch Business Boost and Susan B Livingston Boot Camp. They discuss how to sell the ROI on diversity for those that may take a more lukewarm approach and how to bridge the gap between diversity efforts in law schools and law firms. Episode Resources https://www...2021-05-0727 min
The JabotThe Life and Legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Amanda TylerKathryn is joined by Berkeley Law Professor Amanda L. Tyler. She’s also a former clerk of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the co-author of the Justice’s final book JUSTICE, JUSTICE THOU SHALT PURSUE: A Life's Work Fighting for a More Perfect Union. They discuss how Amanda went from clerk to writing this book with Justice Ginsburg. They dive into the book as Justice Ginsburg's final work, and how it frames her legacy. They talk about Justice Ginsburg's penchant for writing powerful dissents and what RBG's perspective was on that. They chat about what it was like working with...2021-04-3025 min
The JabotMaking Diversity Part of the Fabric of Your Law Firm with Kerry Shad and Sharita WhitakerKathryn talks with Kerry Shad and Sharita Whitaker, both partners at Smith Anderson. They talked about why they went to law school in the first place and how they found the practice areas that are right for them. They also get into Diversity & Inclusion nitty gritty like what D&I means to them, what D&I initiatives are necessary for law firms, the advantages of D&I programs in mid-sized firms compared to Biglaw, the impact of D&I on recruiting efforts, and how recruiting efforts compare to retention efforts. Also, they discuss how they balance the D&I...2021-04-2333 min
The JabotCreating Space In Male Dominated Fields with Jacqueline DuvalKathryn is joined by Jacqueline Duval, a Partner with New York-based law firm Herrick, Feinstein’s Tax Department, and the leader of the firm’s Family Office group. They talk about why she went to law school in the first place, how she settled on tax law as a specialty. Jacqueline also has advice for associates trying to figure out their ideal practice area. They also talk about the twists in her career before achieving the brass ring of the profession, law firm partner, and about Jacqueline co-founding an accelerator law firm for women entrepreneurs and how she uses her...2021-04-1630 min
The JabotThe Color of Creatorship with Anjali VatsIn this episode, Kathryn talks with Dr. Anjali Vats about the intersection of race and IP law -- something that may not strike the average person as particularly obvious. They delve into how do the seemingly colorblind patent and copyright laws continue to favor white men, the role of American mythos in maintaining that system, and the stories about invention we should be telling. They also talk about the key moments or decisions that locked the white gaze in as the dominant one in American IP law. They also discuss the concept of IP citizenship and look at the...2021-04-0927 min
The JabotChat with Attorney, Author, Speaker, and Activist: Robyn Gigl -Kathryn talks with author and lawyer Robyn Gigl, who has a legal thriller being released at the end of March - By Way for Sorrow. They talk about Robyn's long-time dream of being an author, and how she balanced her legal practice with writing. They also delve into Robyn's process for developing the characters in her novel and share tips for aspiring writers out there. In addition to being a lawyer and writer, Robyn is also a speaker and activist who was honored by the ACLU-NJ and the NJ Pride Network for her work on behalf of the LGBTQIA+...2021-03-1930 min
The JabotFinding Your Niche in the Legal Profession with Ifeoma “Iffy” IbekweKathryn chats with Iffy about how she settled into an estate planning practice, and the turns her career has taken to get to this place. Iffy also offers advice for lawyers that struggle with finding the right practice area for them. They talk about how estate planning can embolden women, and why estate planning is an important tool for building generational wealth. Plus, they discuss how Iffy balances her legal practice, being an entrepreneur, family life, and her creative side. Episode Resources Iffy Ibekwe maya@ibekwelaw.com ifeoma@ibekwelaw.com https://ibekwelaw.com/about...2021-03-1230 min
The JabotThe Unconventional Path to Biglaw Partnership with David MorenoKathryn talks with David about diversity in Biglaw and the challenges of recruiting and retention of diverse attorneys. They discussed his recent lateral move to Brown Rudnick, the things he looked for in making that jump, and advice for others looking to move firms. They also talk about David's passion for pro bono work and why is that so important for the legal industry. Episode Resources David Moreno dmoreno@brownrudnick.com http://brownrudnick.com/people/david-a-moreno-jr/ Episode Highlights A unique journey and path - 1:22 Discrimination practices - 2:55 Empowering the community...2021-03-0527 min
The JabotHelping Biglaw Get Better About Diversity with Laura LeopardKathryn talks with Laura Leopard, founder, and CEO of Leopard Solutions. They talk about Leopard's recently rolled out ethnic diversity data in your law firm index and why it’s vital for the legal industry, they discuss the state of gender and ethnic diversity within the top 200 law firms in the US and the biggest takeaways from that work. They also talk about the newly launched Law Firm Transparency Directory and about transparency generally and why it’s so important to improve the legal industry. Laura also notes what data can raise a red flag for prospective employees — either from a...2021-02-2630 min
The JabotMaking the Legal Industry More Human with Leigh VickeryKathryn talks with Leigh Vickery about her work as Chief Strategy & Innovation Officer at LevelLegal. They discuss the ways the legal industry is changing as a result of COVID-19 and why this is a moment for innovation in the industry. They also delve into creating a culture of care as it applies to the legal industry and how things will be different under this model. Episode Resources Leigh Vickery carolyn@plat4orm.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/leighvickery/ Episode Highlights Making legal human - 4:55 About her work - 5:39 Improving efficiency - 7:20 Co...2021-02-1926 min
The JabotChampioning Latinx Causes with Anabel RosaKathryn talks with the plaintiffs' attorney, Anabel Rosa, about her work fighting for Hispanic/Latinx causes in state and local governments. They talk about how her policy work dovetails with her legal career and why she recommends law school to those that care about social justice issues. Episode Resources Anabel Rosa arosa@farrin.com https://www.farrin.com/attorney/anabel-rosa/ Episode Highlights What motivated Anabel to get started - 2:07 Being in Puerto Rico - 2:57 A poverty reduction program - 3:54 A success story - 5:23 She’s still learning - 11:11 Her working privat...2021-02-1232 min
The JabotSexual Harassment Settlement That Could Change an Entire Industry with Molly J. Bowen and Julie Goldsmith ReiserKathryn speaks with Molly J. Bowen and Julie Goldsmith Reiser of Cohen Milstein about their representation of Alphabet shareholders in a case over the company’s handing of sexual harassment claims that led to a $310 million settlement that’s been hailed as precedent-setting. Episode Resources https://www.cohenmilstein.com/professional/molly-j-bowen https://www.cohenmilstein.com/professional/julie-g-reiser Episode Highlights Violations of law - 2:01 The sexual harassment laws - 3:20 An evolving form of litigation - 5:49 Policies and procedures - 7:20 Making compensation decisions - 9:21 What addresses the settlement - 12:55 Hopes of the settleme...2020-11-1929 min
The JabotBiglaw Firm's Latest Racial Equality Work with Eva J. PulliamKathryn interviews Arent Fox partner Eva J. Pulliam about the firm's newly launched Center For Racial Equality. They chat about the creation of the Center and what motivated the firm to do so, the firm's role in racial equality, the goals of the Center, and which projects she is initially focused on. Episode Resources Eva Pulliam eva.pulliam@arentfox.com https://www.arentfox.com/attorneys/eva-pulliam Episode Highlights The firm’s motivation about launching a Center for Racial Equality - 0:39 The firm’s work - 4:14 Top priorities of rights - 5:30 Partnerin...2020-09-2524 min
The JabotThe Lawyer Behind the Hollywood Inclusion Rider and Other Strategies for Workplace Diversity with Kalpana KotagalKathryn interviews Kalpana Kotagal, partner at Cohen Milstein and co-author of the Hollywood “Inclusion Rider” (made famous by Frances McDormand during her 2018 Oscars acceptance speech). They talk about strategies for diversity in the workplace and race and gender discrimination. Episode Resources kkotagal@cohenmilstein.com https://www.cohenmilstein.com/professional/kalpana-kotagal#:~:text=Kalpana%20Kotagal%20is%20a%20Partner,Ms. Episode Highlights The night of the Oscars - 1:07 Working behind the scenes for a while - 2:01 Diversifying the profession - 8:07 Access and inclusion issues - 9:42 How to use inclusion writers - 11:08 Increasing litigation in the l...2020-09-1131 min
The JabotThe Injustice of Criminal Convictions Without Any Crimes with Jessica S. HenryKathryn Rubino talks with Jessica S. Henry, author of “SMOKE BUT NO FIRE: Convicting the Innocent of Crimes that Never Happened”, about the prevalence of no-crime convictions, some of the worst examples of no-crime convictions, how racial injustice exacerbates the issue, and finally what can be done, particularly within the current criminal justice reform zeitgeist. Episode Resources Jessica S. Henry: jessicahenryjustice@gmail.com https://www.amazon.com/Smoke-but-No-Fire-Convicting/dp/0520300645 https://jessicahenryjustice.com/ Episode Highlights Jessica’s new book - 0:37 Her background - 1:31 Being a teacher and learning about crime cases - 5:34 Cr...2020-08-0327 min
The JabotErasure of Native Voices in Law School Experience StudyKathryn talks with Thomasina Real Bird, Angelique EagleWoman, Paulene Abeyta, Christina McDonogh, and Aidan Graybill about the exclusion of Native voices in The Center for Women in Law and The NALP Foundation's study, “Women of Color – A Study of Law Student Experiences”. They discuss the NALP study, then walk through the 4 identified issues with the survey. They also talk about the NALP response to the criticisms and why that isn't a sufficient response. Finally, they discuss the unique issues facing Native American law students and what work is needed to address them. Episode Resources https...2020-07-2028 min
The JabotERA with Linda CoberlyKathryn Rubino talks with Linda Coberly, Chicago Office Managing Partner for the law firm of Winston & Strawn and Chair of the ERA Coalition’s Legal Task Force, about the ongoing fight for the adoption of the Equal Rights Amendment. Episode Resources lcoberly@winston.com https://www.winston.com/en/who-we-are/professionals/coberly-linda-t.html https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindacoberly Episode Highlights The adoption of the ERA - 0:47 The right to vote - 2:07 The proposal of the ERA - 4:36 There are protections against discrimination - 5:30 The ERA inside the Constitution - 14:48 Worki...2020-07-1428 min
The JabotDiversity and Federal Clerkships with Danielle Barondess and Steven ArangoKathryn talks with Danielle Barondess (a federal law clerk in Hawaii) and Steven Arango (a federal law clerk in Texas) founders of a new program Law Clerks for Diversity. Law Clerks for Diversity connects diverse candidates with current and former law clerks, practitioners, and judges for mentorship and assistance applying for federal clerkships. Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/groups/8945625/ https://twitter.com/clrks4diversity https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellebarondess https://www.stevenarango.com/ Episode Highlights Founding a new program - 0:57 Never giving up - 4:25 Steven and Danielle’s back...2020-07-0229 min
The JabotBiglaw Pro Bono in the Wake of the George Floyd Protests with Tai-Heng ChengKathryn talks with Tai-Heng Cheng, global co-head of the international arbitration and trade practice at Sidley, about his recent pro bono efforts. He represents journalist Linda Tirado, who was struck in the eye with a rubber bullet while covering the protests following the murder of George Floyd, in her lawsuit against the city of Minneapolis. Episode Resources https://www.sidley.com/en/people/c/cheng-taiheng Episode Highlights Why focus on pro bono - 1:28 The George Floyd demonstrations - 3:02 Being in an inflection point in our society - 3:43 Lawyers must step up...2020-06-1824 min
The JabotHow the Recent Black Lives Matter Protests are Changing Biglaw -- Hopefully for the Better with Lia DorseyKathryn Rubino talks to Lia Dorsey, newly elected President of the Association of Law Firm Diversity Professionals, and Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Dentons, about Biglaw's response to the violent deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, and to Black Lives Matter. Episode Resources lia.dorsey@dentons.com https://www.dentons.com/en https://www.linkedin.com/in/lia-dorsey-b770511 Episode Highlights A difficult topic - 1:13 Tangible actions behind words - 2:34 Lia’s role and Biglaw’s role - 3:20 All the firms' different statements - 4:25 Lia’s piece of advice f...2020-06-1224 min
The JabotInterview with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLPKathryn Rubino talks with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLP, about balancing home life with a thriving legal practice during the pandemic. They discuss COVID-19's impact on work/life balance, tips for dealing with the health crisis and a flourishing legal practice, what she's learned in becoming the firm's PPP point, and what challenges the legal industry faces as we continue to deal with the ramifications of the pandemic. Episode Resources Connect with Christina Moore cmoore@taylorenglish.com https://www.taylorenglish.com/people-Christina-L-Moore.html Episode Highlights The global pa...2020-05-2129 min
The JabotDiversity Initiative Aims to Proactively Combat Effects of COVID-19 with Kori CarewKathryn Rubino speaks with Kori Carew, Seyfarth Shaw’s chief inclusion and diversity officer and leader of The Belonging Project initiative. They talk about why the middle of a pandemic is the right time for Biglaw to double down on diversity. Episode Resources https://www.seyfarth.com/the-belonging-project.html kcarew@seyfarth.com https://www.seyfarth.com/about-us/firm-leadership.html Episode Highlights What’s the project all about - 1:00 Offering webinars - 2:39 A coaching culture and program - 3:59 The pandemic and the program - 7:23 People impacted by COVID_19 - 8:13 The legal field in 2008...2020-05-1429 min
The JabotThe In-House Counsel Gender Pay Gap with Eliza StokerKathryn Rubino interviews Eliza Stoker, Executive Director of MLA’s In-House Counsel Recruiting group, about Major Lindsey & Africa's new In-House Compensation Survey which reveals a gender pay gap. We discuss what folks need to understand about the in-house space that may contribute to the pay gap, what can/should be done to fix the pay gap, and what does gender equity looks like in the in-house space. Episode Resources https://www.mlaglobal.com/en/knowledge-library/research/2020-global-in-house-compensation-survey https://www.mlaglobal.com/en/people/eliza-stoker?byconsultantorauthor=eliza-stoker estoker@mlaglobal.com Episode Highlights T...2020-04-3029 min
The JabotLaw School Diversity and Debt with Kyle McEnteeKathryn talks with Kyle McEntee of Law School Transparency about their new report that identifies --- and charts a way forward --- the problems with diversity and debt in legal education. Episode Resources https://www.lawschooltransparency.com/ kyle.patrick.mcentee@gmail.com Episode Highlights Law school transparency - 1:28 How everything started - 2:04 Kyle’s background - 2:45 Diversity and debt and why they’re important - 5:52 Law School Transparency vision and goal - 7:00 Lawyers and law schools - 9:00 Increasing diversity - 9:49 Law school rankings - 15:35 The transparency index - 18:40 Working with law schools...2020-04-2331 min
The JabotExpanding Your Firm During COVID-19 with Kelly Rittenberry Culhane and James MeadowsKathryn Rubino talks with Kelly Rittenberry Culhane and James Meadows, two of the founding partners of Culhane Meadows, about what it was like to start their firm in 2013. They also discuss why their firm cares so much about diversity and what can be done to make the profession more diverse. They also chat about the firm's growth plans, which continue despite the economic downturn created by the global pandemic. Episode Resources https://www.culhanemeadows.com/attorney/kelly-culhane/ https://www.culhanemeadows.com/attorney/james-meadows/ Episode Highlights Today’s guests - 1:20 Opening a new...2020-04-1633 min
The JabotLeaving Biglaw with Stephanie WilkinsKathryn talks with Stephanie Wilkins who said “No” to the Biglaw brass ring of partnership in favor of a freelancer's life. Hear what it is like to choose to be happy over money and how she makes the uncertainty of freelance work for her. Episode Resources https://www.stephaniewilkinsphotography.com/about https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-wilkins/ https://www.instagram.com/swilkinstravels/ Episode Highlights Being a writer at Above The Law - 1:54 Leaving Biglaw - 2:15 Her background - 2:20 Going to law school - 5:06 When she decided to leave biglaw - 7:31 Making a deci...2020-04-0944 min
The JabotThe Stereotypes of Appalachia with Cassie ChambersKathryn talks with Cassie Chambers, author of the new book Hill Women: Finding Family and a Way Forward in the Appalachian Mountains. Cassie is a graduate of Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of Economics, and Harvard Law School. They talk about the strong women in her family and the emphasis on education, stereotypes of Appalachia and how her book is a response to that. Episode Resources cassie.h.chambers@gmail.com https://www.cassiechambers.com/ Cassie’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Hill-Women-Finding-Appalachian-Mountains/dp/1984818910 Episode Highlights Cas...2020-04-0230 min
The JabotMental Health + Working Parents in the Legal Industry with Summer EberhardKathryn talks with Summer Eberhard, managing director in the Associate Practice Group at Major, Lindsey & Africa and a working mother who advises young lawyers on negotiating their parental leave, and about the intersection of mental health issues and parenthood. They discuss the challenges of working as a lawyer and parent amid the COVID-19 outbreak, how associates should ask for and take parental leave, and some of the mental health issues that accompany both challenging tasks. Enjoy this episode! Episode Resources Summer Eberhard: seberhard@mlaglobal.com https://www.mlaglobal.com/en/people/summer-eberhard?byconsultantorauthor=summer-eberhard kat...2020-03-2630 min
The JabotTechnology and the Legal Industry Diversity Gap with Sara EngSara Eng is the VP of Legal Partnerships at InCloudCounsel. Kathryn and Sara talk about implicit bias and how that creates and maintains the diversity gap in the legal profession. They discuss concrete steps that can be taken and technology that can be used to stop the impact of implicit bias. Be sure to stay tuned and enjoy! Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-eng-82432342 https://www.incloudcounsel.com/about/ Episode Highlights All the Coronavirus craziness - 1:09 Sara's company goals and mission - 1:55 Pursuing other passions outside of the Law - 2:42...2020-03-1925 min
The JabotOur Deadly Devotion to Guns and Free Speech with Mary Anne FranksMary Anne Franks, Professor of Law and Dean’s Distinguished Scholar, teaches criminal law, criminal procedure, First Amendment law, Second Amendment law, family law, and Law, Policy, and Technology. Professor Franks is also an Affiliated Faculty member of the University of Miami Department of Philosophy. She also serves as the President and Legislative & Tech Policy Director of the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, a nonprofit organization dedicated to combating online abuse and discrimination. In today’s episode, Kathryn Rubino talks with Mary Ann about her recent book The Cult of the Constitution: Our Deadly Devotion to Guns and Free Speech. Enjo...2020-03-0930 min
The JabotStarting Up Your Own Law Firm with Cori RobinsonCori A. Robinson runs her own trust and estate law firm in the New York and New Jersey area. She talks with Kathryn Rubino about the pressures of starting your own firm and what it feels like to take on this responsibility. Episode Resources https://www.robinsonestatelaw.com Episode Highlights How to deal with the pressure of starting your own law firm. Why Cori chose trust and estate law vs matrimonial law. Navigating the business mechanics of running a solo practitioner business. The most unexpected things she’s experienced with the...2018-09-2035 min
The JabotThe Urban Meyer Investigation with Joe Patrice Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino talk about the Urban Meyer investigation and how Ohio State and Mary Jo White whitewashed the violence done to women. Episode Resources https://abovethelaw.com/author/joe-patrice Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts2018-08-3027 min
The JabotLawyers and Libraries with Meaghan McDermottMeaghan McDermott saw a safe space for people in a Maryland community library. From following that intuition she shares her experience with Kathryn Rubino about helping people solve their legal and justice problems. Episode Resources https://www.mdlab.org/get-help-services/community-lawyering/meghan-mcdermott Episode Highlights Why Meaghan has focused on access to health care for low-income women. How she started the Lawyers in the library program. Why some of the community members benefit from these programs. What Legal Aid is doing in Maryland. Meaghan shares advice for people in law school. ...2018-08-1627 min
The JabotPoverty Privacy Rights with Khiara BridgesKhiara Bridges, author and law professor at Boston University School of Law talks with Kathryn Rubino about the social justices often overlooked by the majority. They go in-depth about the privacy rights of the poor and minorities. Episode Resources https://www.bu.edu/law/profile/khiara-m-bridges https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khiara_Bridges https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Privacy-Rights-Khiara-Bridges/dp/1503602265 Episode Highlights Her discoveries of unequal care and privacy rights for poor women. Understanding the pockets of individuals without rights. How people are stripped of their privacy rights. The ways our so...2018-08-0935 min
The JabotMaria Vathis: Federal Bar Associate President-ElectFederal Bar Associate president-elect Maria Vathis talks with Kathryn Rubino about her goals and special projects while acting as President of FBA. Maria also shares strategies for younger associates to create balance between work and life. Episode Resources http://www.fedbar.org/Leadership/Board-of-Directors/Officers/Maria-Z-Vathis.aspx https://www.bryancave.com/en/people/maria-z-vathis.html Episode Highlights How the Federal Bar Association is different than other associations. Why Maria was interested with FBA. Her goals as President of FBA. Strategies for younger associates to create balance for work and li...2018-08-0324 min
The JabotDonna Wilson of ManattDonna Wilson was recently elected as the CEO and managing partner at Manatt. Kathryn and Donna talk about the need for firms to take the initiative and embrace diversity, the importance of emotional IQ in your career and her advice about clerking. Episode Resources https://www.manatt.com/Donna-L-Wilson Episode Highlights What Donna brings to the firm as managing partner. Industry pitfalls to watch for in the future. Why laws firms need to take the initiative and embrace diversity. Creating a supportive environment for all genders. War stories from court ro...2018-07-1722 min
The JabotDealing With Terrible Situations At Work with Jennifer KozaJennifer Koza and Kathryn Rubino talk about how women can deal with a variety of troubling situations they may find at work. Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-koza-6a061226/ https://www.psychologytoday.com Episode Highlights Dealing with the expectations of hours. Where the #metoo movement fits in the legal industry. Understanding the mental burden women have to face in the workplace. How to raise awareness and approach uncomfortable conversations. Why taking notes of an incident is your first step. Toxic work environments and dealing with screamers. Dealing with yo...2018-06-2230 min
The JabotHow To Be Sort Of Happy In Law School - Kathryne M. YoungAuthor Kathryne M. Young shares insights about the new book ‘How To Be Sort Of Happy In Law School’. Host, Kathryn Rubino and Kathryne Young talk about how to make law school more bearable or even create a win. If you’re in law school or thinking about taking up law school check out Kathryne’s book. The Jabot podcast focuses on women and underrepresented groups in the legal profession. Episode Resources https://www.umass.edu/sociology/users/young https://www.sortofhappy.com Episode Highlights How the imposte...2018-06-0429 min
The JabotCorporette - Kat GriffinKat Griffin created the site Corporette.com to provide fashion, lifestyle and career advice for overachieving moms and moms-to-be. Kat and Kathryn Rubino talk about dress codes, fashion rules for different body types and much more fashion advice for young professionals. The Jabot podcast focuses on women and underrepresented groups in the legal profession. Episode Resources https://corporette.com https://corporettemoms.com Episode Highlights Is fashion perceived as frivolous in the workplace? How to deal with sexist dress codes. Words to live by for young professionals. Fas...2018-05-1826 min