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Smart in Public
Demystifying the IPO for comms with Daniella Vallurupalli
In today's episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome Daniella Vallurupalli, VP and Head of Global Communications at Cloudflare, to demystify the role of communications professionals during the IPO process. Daniella shares the importance of preparing for an IPO well in advance (with some incredibly helpful tips on how to do that), how to get a S.E.A.T. at the table throughout the entire process, and the unique challenges faced by comms teams when trying to navigate a time at the company where it's likely it's everyone's first rodeo -- even your s...
2025-07-29
1h 01
Smart in Public
Expectations, customer service, and your CEO could be causing a comms disconnect trifecta
In this week's episode of the Smart and Public podcast, the Katies dig into the crisis recently faced by Qantas, Australia's most well-known national airline, following a significant data breach earlier this month. Hot topics were the implications of the breach on customer trust and loyalty, the challenges of crisis communication in today's instant-info digital age, and the importance of CEO messaging and transparency in rebuilding brand reputation. A use case that we touched on was the lessons learned from CrowdStrike's response to their own breach one-year on, which we thought was a great example of the n...
2025-07-22
43 min
Smart in Public
Navigate the shifting startup ecosystem with Alex Konrad, Founder & Editor of Upstarts Media
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome friend of the pod and everyone's favorite startup journalist Alex Konrad, Founder & Editor of Upstarts Media. The big topic on the table was getting a better sense of the direction startup news reporting is heading -- from industry predictions all the way down to some real tactical stuff like how to pitch Substack journalists. The conversation also covers the challenges of navigating the media landscape, the role of AI in journalism, best practices for pitching stories, and what makes a compelling startup narrative. Al...
2025-07-15
48 min
Smart in Public
Bezos Spectacle, Protesticals, Big Wallets & Watching the NYC Mayoral Race
It's Season 2 of the Smart in Public podcast! The Katies kick off the new season with something old and something new, because we can't stop trying to understand the world that is Bezos, even if it means we're talking about them for the third time since the inception of the podcast. The implications on celebrity culture and brand perception are just too good. We also get pretty spicy on the New York mayoral race, highlighting the generational shift in politics, the importance of authenticity in communication, and the need for political candidates and brands to adapt to n...
2025-07-08
38 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
237 - Performance expectations have shifted: Danny Guillory (Chief People Officer, Glassdoor), Lisa Anne Logan (Chief of Staff, People, Asana), Dashini Jeyathurai (Head of Talent Development at Gusto)
We were joined by people leaders from Glassdoor, Asana, and Gusto. We talked about the fragmented burnout and how it’s hitting people differently, how performance expectations have shifted in the last 6-12 months, and more.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live New York.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.---- (03:18) Good news stories from the guests and hosts(10...
2025-07-03
1h 03
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - The Metrics That Actually Matter in HR: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built For People)
Jessica Zwaan joined us again to unpack the metrics that actually matter in HR today. We talked about the three buckets of metrics every People Leader should use, why the RANS test is a better way to measure engagement, and the one metric to rule them all (ELTV:CAC). ---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live New York.🔗 Go sign...
2025-06-27
57 min
Confidently Visible
The rise of consulting & how to build your brand as a consultant
Welcome to episode 10 of the Confidently Visible Podcast! In this episode, I’m joined by amazing US-based consultant, mentor, and strategist Katie Boysen for a powerful conversation on why consulting is booming - and how women can build visibility and brand power in this space.Katie has over 20 years of experience in developing and leading communications strategies for some of the world’s most influential agencies, entrepreneurs, startups, and Fortune 500 companies such as Salesforce. Katie is the co-host of the Smart in Public podcast, created for PR & Comms professionals to learn from each other and...
2025-06-24
33 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
235 - 3 principles this Head of People swears by to build high-impact teams – Frieda Möcker (Head of People & Culture, Sastrify)
Frieda Möcker, Head of People & Culture at Sastrify, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the first steps she took to treat HR more like a product, how her team does sprint planning, and why she prefers “NCTs” over OKRs.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live New York.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build....
2025-06-20
54 min
Smart in Public
37 - You are the brand now
Moving forward, let's just assume all episodes are hot takes, ok?? Today, the Katies dissect the article 'You are the brand now' written by Kira Klaas in her On Brand Substack to unpack the evolving landscape of personal branding and its implications for corporate strategy and consumer behavior. We know that individuals are becoming brands themselves, and recognize the importance of visibility over skill, but how does that affect the changing expectations of employees in the workplace and how corporations partner with them? We also ask ourselves some big hairy questions that Kira rai...
2025-06-17
42 min
Smart in Public
36 - Hot Take: The New Era of PR
In Episode 36 of the Smart in Public Podcast, the Katies kick off with a shameless plug of the launch of Boysen's new business, Comms People and there was not a dry pit in the house as she talked about it for the first time publicly. The hot takes were really about the insights Boysen pulled from the Haymaker Media Summit, which mainly focused on the evolving role of AI in journalism and the importance (and hesitation) of go-direct communication strategies in public relations. We chat through the balance between go-direct and traditional earned media, highlighting the need f...
2025-06-10
40 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - How to Hire for People Ops as a Product: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People)
Jessica Zwaan joined us again on The Modern People Leader to break down how to hire for a people ops as a product team.She shared the 5 core skillsets needed, the importance of t-shaped talent, and how to use case studies to spot product thinking in HR Candidates.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.MPL Links:🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.---- (04:37) W...
2025-06-06
49 min
Smart in Public
35 - Create brand content that serves both your business and your career with Fana Yohannes
In episode 35 of Smart in Public, Fana Yohannes, Founder of Flora by Fana and Here to Help (H2H), joins the Katies on the pod to chat personal and professional branding, building a future-proof network, navigating the job market, and the importance of a consistent online presence (with tips on how to actually do it without burning out). The evolution of networking is ongoing in the digital age, and Fana walks us through how to effectively develop content creation strategies for social media, and the role of platforms like Substack for both personal and professional impact. We a...
2025-06-03
54 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
232: The Modern Compensation Playbook: Matt McFarlane (Director, FNDN) & Haris Ikram (Co-Founder & CEO, CandorIQ)
Matt McFarlane and Haris Ikram joined us for a live session to break down everything modern HR leaders need to know about compensation—from philosophy and strategy to pay transparency and AI tools. Together, they shared a forward-thinking playbook for tackling merit cycles, aligning job architecture, and driving better employee experiences through data and design.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Sign up for ChartHop’s 2-Minute Talk on June 4th.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.MPL Links:🔗...
2025-05-30
1h 03
Smart in Public
34 - The common thread between ROI and trusted storytelling with Cristin Culver
This week on Smart in Public, the Katies welcome Cristin Culver, founder of Common Thread Communications, to the pod. Cristin's approach to comms is unique -- and it has to be given she works across the Fintech, Proptech, and Legaltech industries. Her highly ROI driven comms strategies remove the safety net of saying 'comms is hard to measure' from her vocabulary, and her clients love her for it.Learn how Cristin uses hybrid comms strategies, including the power of local storytelling, and hear her perspectives on the role of AI in modern PR. We dive into the...
2025-05-27
55 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
231 - Organizational Network Analysis Explained: Abby Brennan, Former Head of People Strategy & Operations at Carta
Abby Brennan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed the power of ONA as the “shadow org chart,” how it reveals hidden influencers, and why it may be key to building smarter, more connected teams in the age of AI.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.----
2025-05-23
1h 04
Smart in Public
33 - Hot Take: Emma Grede's work-life balance & would you work for Elon Musk?
It's another Hot Take episode and The Katies are in a mood. Hot Take #1 (2:02): Emma Grede's statements around work-life balance were not completely out of line - she was just lacking tangible examples in her messaging. Hot Take #2 (25:30): X's search for a new comms lead validates that comms is a critical role at the leadership table.TakeawaysWork-life balance is often viewed differently by CEOs and employees.CEOs need to provide examples of HOW they maintain work-life balance to set a new executive standard in answering th...
2025-05-20
41 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - How to structure a “People Ops as a Product team”
Jessica Zwaan joined us again on The Modern People Leader to unpack how to structure a people ops as a product team. She shared four ways to build an HR squad, how to use a spider diagram for squad design, and why it’s smart to pilot just one squad first.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.----
2025-05-16
54 min
Smart in Public
32 - How to run successful comms programs in Asia with Zixin Chai
In episode 32 of Smart in Public, the Katies are joined by Zixin Chai, Senior Partner at RICE, a FINN Partners Company, to learn about the comms and media landscape across Asia. Zixin guides Boysen & Dufficy through the challenges of working with multinational clients in Asia, cultural nuances, and the current talent pool in Singapore (where she's based). We also explore the media landscape, shifts in the communications industry, and the growing significance of internal communications across companies in Asia. Fun fact - did you know that Asia is not one big country? All jokes aside, th...
2025-05-13
55 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
229 - The Founder's Mentality at Nextdoor: Bryan Power (Head of People, Nextdoor)
Bryan Power, Head of People at Nextdoor, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how the company is navigating its “third era” under the return of co-founder Nirav Tolia. We explored “The Founders Mentality”, embracing an owner’s mindset, and Nextdoor’s AI bootcamp.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build....
2025-05-12
1h 07
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - Nobody gets People Ops as a Product 100% right (and that’s ok): Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People)
Jessica Zwaan, COO at Talentful and author of Built for People, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about “human ops” versus “people ops”, the sprint planning process for her people team, and how nobody gets people ops as a product 100% right (and that’s ok).---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL B...
2025-05-06
57 min
Smart in Public
31 - Navigating Corporate Reputation, Inclusivity, and Authenticity with Abenaa Hayes
In this episode of the Smart and Public Podcast, the Katies welcome Abenaa Hayes, Founder and CEO of Elysee Consulting. It won't take long in the episode for you to agree with us when we say that Abenaa AND her career are not only impressive, but incredibly interesting. Her experience in communications and brand spans across a wide range of companies - from start-ups to growth to established US and global firms in healthcare, social impact, and more. Abenaa’s professional mission is to guide leaders and brands who want to meet 21st century societal mandates head on by dr...
2025-05-06
53 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
227 - How to build AI workflows for HR: Taylor Bradley (VP, Talent Strategy & Success, Turing)
Taylor Bradley, VP of Talent Strategy and Success at Turing, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about why every HR team needs to create an AI “prompt pantry”, how Turing “AI’d” their way out of onboarding 800 employees in five days, and how to build AI workflows for HR.---- Sponsor Links:🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.MPL Links:🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go s...
2025-05-02
58 min
Smart in Public
30 - PR-omance: How to build your dream PR agency / client relationship
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, The Katies discuss the ins-and-outs of working with PR agencies, including the pros and cons of different agency types, best practices for finding the right agency, and how to build successful partnerships. We also delve into the RFP process, emphasizing the importance of communication and transparency in agency-client relationships. We have a tonne of experience in this space -- from both ends of the spectrum -- so this episode is packed with personal anecdotes and insights into the evolving agency landscape of PR (with a consulting twist!).
2025-04-29
55 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
226 - The 3 secrets to teamwork in 2025: Molly Sands (Head of the Teamwork Lab, Atlassian)
Molly Sands, Head of the Teamwork Lab at Atlassian, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about Atlassian’s latest research on the three things the best teams do differently, the power of unleashing collective knowledge, and why distributed teams have a headstart on AI adoption.---- 🔗 Go book your next offsite with Marco Experiences.🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.---- (05...
2025-04-25
59 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
225 - Pat Wadors (CHRO, Intuitive) on amplifying the “golden nuggets” of your culture
Pat Wadors, CHRO at Intuitive, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how to find and amplify the golden nuggets of your culture, the three layers of a great employee experience, why you need to “touch the elephant”, and what kids’ stories can teach us about leadership.---- 🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build.---- (05:48) Pat’s 18-Month Update: New Role, Book Launch...
2025-04-21
1h 08
Smart in Public
29 - Hot Take: Blue Origin
It's a HOT TAKE BAY BEE! In this bonus episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies slightly unravel talking about Blue Origin's recent space mission featuring an all-female crew. They unpacked the publicity leading up to the launch, how it aligned to Blue Origin's company mission, the media's reaction, the public backlash, and the implications of celebrity involvement in space exploration. Yes we did some [heavy] critiquing on the PR strategy around the mission, including the focus on superficial aspects rather than substantive discussions about women in STEM and the role of NASA amidst budget cuts. They...
2025-04-17
35 min
Smart in Public
28 - Pitching with proof: how data storytelling gets audiences to listen
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies discuss the significance of data storytelling across executive messaging, narrative creation, cross-functional campaign development, industry positioning, and public relations. They explore various types of data research, the importance of sample size, and how to effectively leverage data for storytelling and media engagement. The conversation walks comms & marketing leaders how to strategically plan and collaborate across business functions to maximize the impact of data-driven narratives.TakeawaysWhat data storytelling programs are and how they can can be a critical communication toolLearn good and bad e...
2025-04-15
48 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - Jessica Zwaan: Story behind her obsession w/ People Ops as a Product
Jessica Zwaan returned to The Modern People Leader for a deep dive on how her PeopleOps as a Product philosophy came to life. We talked about the early days of the framework, writing her book, and the launch of MPL Build — a new collaboration between MPL and Jessica to bring the methodology to more teams.---- 🔗Join the MPL Live Session on all-things leave management.🔗Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗Download the State of Teams 2025 Report from Atlassian.🔗Be the first to hear when MPL Build launches.---- (08...
2025-04-11
51 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
223 - Shane Koller (Chief People Officer, Ancestry): Running your People Team like a Product Team
Shane Koller joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about adopting a product mindset in HR, how Ancestry’s people team built their “product roadmap”, and why even great HR programs fall short when they’re not connected.---- 🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.🔗 Be the first to hear when MPL Build launches this month.---- (07:35) Shane’s journey from psychology to Chief People Officer (10:31) How Ancestry became the leader in family history and genomics (13:13) Powerful...
2025-04-04
1h 02
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
222 - Michele Bousquet (Chief People Officer, Strava): Stop overcomplicating HR
Michele Bousquet joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her career journey, leading with heart, and why HR shouldn’t be so complicated.---- 🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop.🔗 Buy your ticket for MPL Live San Francisco.---- (08:41) Michele’s career journey: From temp to Chief People Officer(14:45) Lessons from navigating adversity and leading with heart(21:52) The importance of authenticity and listening in leadership(24:14) How Strava’s people team fosters human connection(29:59) Simplifying HR: Leading with common sense and empathy
2025-03-28
1h 12
Smart in Public
27 - Turn storytelling programs into bottom line drivers with Cath Anderson
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome Cath Anderson to the pod to talk about narrative development, messaging, her board seat on Planned Parenthood, career breaks, and A LOT MORE. For those that don't know Cath, she's a comms powerhouse with two decades of experience working in corporate communications and marketing roles. She specializes in shaping company narratives, mitigating reputation risk, and strategically positioning brands for long-term relevance and growth. Cath has built best-in-class communications teams, while advising CEOs and founders across various stages and sectors, from established global brands like Apple, Google, and...
2025-03-25
44 min
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
221 - Caregivers are stretched thin. It’s time we paid attention: Michael Walsh (CEO, Cariloop)
Michael Walsh, CEO of Cariloop, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed the caregiving challenges facing employees today, how companies can better support working caregivers, and the data-backed insights from Cariloop’s Top Needs Report.---- 🔗 Download Cariloop’s 2025 Employee Caregiver Top Needs Report.---- (7:20) How Michael's personal experience with caregiving sparked the idea for Cariloop(19:37) Why employers need to rethink caregiving support(27:43) Why caregiving stigma persists at work(38:46) The top caregiving challenges right now(55:50) Making the business case for caregiv...
2025-03-21
1h 02
Smart in Public
26 - Enter your communications consultant era w/ Roberto Munoz, CEO Munoz Communications
In episode 26, the Katie's welcome Roberto Munoz, CEO of Munoz Communications, to give our listeners a crash course in comms consulting. This episode comes at a time when we're seeing a flood of top communications talent leave the corporate world to become consultants, and Roberto is the perfect guest to help set anyone -- from the seasoned consultant to the consultant curious -- on the right track for building a client pipeline, identifying what services you want to offer, how much to charge, how to evolve with the market, and even how to simply get started.Thank...
2025-03-18
1h 04
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
MPL Live Boston: Engagement scores don’t tell the full story (CPOs of DraftKings, Klaviyo, and Smartcat)
Linda Aiello (CPO, DraftKings), Carmel Galvin (CPO, Klaviyo), and Stacey Richey (Global VP, People, Smartcat), joined us for MPL Live in Boston, Massachusetts.We talked about the current state of HR, how roles are shifting with AI, and how they’re moving beyond traditional engagement metrics.---- 🔗 Get Atlassian’s free guide to AI-powered knowledge management🔗 Request a demo of Workleap using this link and get 10% off of your first year 🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop. Let them know we sent you.---- (09:44) Guest introductions (10:49) Stat...
2025-03-14
1h 46
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
219 - 4x Chief People Officer on leadership & making AI a priority: Shlomit Gruman-Navot
Shlomit Gruman-Navot joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her evolution as a people leader and how Miro is making AI learning a priority for employees. ---- 🔗Join Atlassian’s webinar on March 12th and learn how AI is transforming knowledge management🔗Request a demo of ChartHop. Let them know we sent you.---- 5:00 - Her career journey: from IBM to SAP, Alpha Bank, OLX, and Miro11:32 - The shift from monoculture workplaces to truly global teams19:13 - Roadshows in Siberia, un...
2025-03-10
1h 03
Smart in Public
25 - Craft audience-first brand stories w/ Alexandra Whiting, Head of Content at The Memo
In episode 25 of the Smart in Public Podcast, the Katies welcome Alexandra Whiting, Head of Content at The Memo, to chat through the world of content creators; brand messaging; and telling stories that will actually build a community. Of course, it wouldn't be like us to not get side tracked into the importance of other areas like the challenges of PR / media relationships and the unique approach The Memo takes in curating parenting products - but we think you'll enjoy all those topics too! Think of Alexandra as a deep well of insights on authenticity in motherhood content and...
2025-03-04
1h 01
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
218 - Why AI makes learning “scaled to one”: Brandon Carson (Chief Learning Officer, Docebo)
Brandon Carson, Chief Learning Officer at Docebo, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about the one thing holding companies back from adopting AI faster, why AI makes learning “scaled to one”, and why the future of work isn’t about replacing humans - it’s about amplifying them.---- 🔗 Get Atlassian’s free guide to AI-powered knowledge management🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop. Let them know we sent you.🔗 Last chance to buy tickets for MPL Live Boston---- (07:49) Brandon’s career journey: From Delta, Wa...
2025-03-01
1h 11
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
217 - Tackling "People Debt": Crystal Boysen (Chief People Officer, Sprout Social)
Crystal Boysen, Chief People Officer at Sprout Social, joined us for a deep dive into People Debt. We discussed what it is, how to identify it, and specific areas where Sprout Social is focusing its efforts to address it.---- 🔗 Go grab your ticket for Transform 2025🔗 Get Atlassian’s free guide to AI-powered knowledge management🔗 Sign up for our upcoming webinar with ChartHop🔗 Buy tickets for MPL Live Boston---- (08:41) From Vimeo to Sprout Social: Why Crystal made the move(11:50) What is People Debt a...
2025-02-21
1h 01
Smart in Public
24 - Navigating Corporate DEI Communications in 2025
In episode 24 of Smart in Public, the Katies deliver an in-depth analysis of corporate Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in today's business environment. This timely episode explores how companies are adapting their DEI strategies, the crucial role of communications teams in driving meaningful change, and strategies for maintaining authentic corporate values during shifting market dynamics.Key Discussion Points:The current state of corporate DEI initiatives and their effectivenessStrategic approaches to measuring DEI success beyond short-term metricsImpact of employee feedback on DEI program developmentBuilding resilient brand values in challenging market conditionsRole of communications teams in corporate leadership...
2025-02-18
34 min
Smart in Public
23 - From finance to tech: how Cheryl Sanclemente, CCO at Lattice, took her career from strength to strength
In episode 23 of Smart in Public, the Katies sit down with Cheryl Sanclemente, Chief Communications Officer at Lattice, for a real-talk conversation about career development, mentorship, comms leaders on boards, the sentiment in HR tech during a time of massive layoffs across the industry, and age old question of work-life balance.Key Discussion Highlights:Career Transformation: Cheryl's remarkable journey from finance to tech leadershipAI in the Workplace: Exploring the critical role of HR in responsible AI integrationCommunications Strategy: Navigating the evolving landscape of corporate communicationsProfessional Growth: The transformative power of mentorship and networkingWork-Life Balance: Strategies...
2025-02-12
56 min
Smart in Public
22 - Unlock the Secrets of VC Communications with Allie Cefalo, Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins
This week, the Katies are joined by Allie Cefalo, Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins, who shares her journey from leading global communications teams to running marketing for one of the world's best known Venture Capital firms. In this episode, you'll get a peek into the world of VC comms and the insider communications strategies. Discover how top VC firms support founders, craft compelling brand narratives, and navigate the evolving landscape of startup marketing.We laughed a lot, we learned a lot, we shared some embarrassing stories. It's an episode you won't want to miss!...
2025-02-04
48 min
Smart in Public
21 - Master the message, the messenger, and the platform with Burson CEO Corey duBrowa
In episode 21 of the Smart in Public podcast, Burson CEO Corey duBrowa shares insights as to how world of communications has transformed over the years and his predictions on where it's headed. Whether you're a comms leader (or any leader, really) that's building a team, working with an executive or founder, interested in transitioning from agency to in-house (or visa versa), trying to switch to a different PR field, or want to understand how to become a better storyteller, this is your chance to learn from one of the most decorated and influential PR pros out there.
2025-01-28
54 min
Smart in Public
20 - Land your dream job with Brooke Kruger, Founder of KC Partners
Looking for a job in comms? Well it's your lucky day. This week, the Katies welcome Brooke Kruger, founder of KC Partners, to discuss the current hiring landscape in the communications field through the eyes of one of the industry's best comms recruiters. The conversation covers a broad range of job hunting, hiring, and interview tips including the importance of skills and education, career advice for newcomers in communications, preparing for interviews, and the impact of AI on hiring. They also explore common mistakes made by companies during the hiring process, the dynamics of returning to the office, and...
2025-01-22
37 min
Smart in Public
19 - Hot Take Episode: Meta & Meghan Markle
In episode 19 of the Smart Public Podcast, the Katies discuss Meta's announcement led by Mark Zuckerberg and the implications of his messages on the company's reputation. They also debate on Meghan Markle's new show on Netflix and the challenges she faces in rebuilding her brand. The conversation highlights the complexities of communication strategies in today's media landscape and the impact of social media on public figures.Episode Timestamps00:44 - Meta's Announcement: The Zuck and His Gold Chain06:40 - The Impact of Meta's Changes on Society12:39 - The Masculine Energy Debate: Zuck on...
2025-01-14
43 min
Smart in Public
18 - Build and lead a highly functioning team with Jane Hynes, VP of Communications for Google Cloud
In episode 18, the Katies welcome special guest Jane Hynes, VP of Global Communications for Google Cloud for a masterclass in how to effectively build and lead highly functioning communication teams. If you're currently building a team or managing people managers for the first time, this episode is for you. Jane also shares candid insights about:Developing quotable, impactful messaging that resonates in today's fast-paced media landscapeBuilding and nurturing high-performing teams in rapid-growth environmentsThe critical importance of succession planning and talent developmentHow AI is reshaping the future of corporate communicationsWhether you're a seasoned communications profess...
2025-01-08
37 min
Smart in Public
17 - All Inclusive Holiday Special
In this holiday special episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies discuss their top PR campaigns in 2024, like Mastercard's wheelchair ball kid initiative, Dove's Face of Ten campaign, and the rise of women's sports. The conversation also touches on the US election campaigns and notable PR disasters, all while sharing personal anecdotes and insights about the importance of networking and self-awareness in the industry. 00:00 - Holiday Cheer and Podcast Introduction02:45 - Reflecting on 2024: Top Moments in PR05:52 - Innovative PR Campaigns: Dad Shift and Wicked09:01 - MasterCard's Wheelchair Ball Kid Initiative14:55...
2024-12-24
53 min
Smart in Public
16 - Interview with Tarla Lambert-Patel, co-founder of Agenda Media & Editor-in-Chief of Women's Agenda
This week the Katies welcome Tarla Lambert-Patel, co-founder of Agenda Media, parent company to Women’s Agenda, Women’s Health News, The Crux podcast, and The Keynotes app. In this episode, they discuss the challenges of independent publishing and the importance of addressing women's issues in media. Tarla also shares tips for PR professionals who are looking to pitch and build campaigns around women's issues, curating event content with a publisher that delivers impact, and why International Women's Day shouldn't be the only time your company speaks out to support women.You can listen to the Women's Agen...
2024-12-19
46 min
Smart in Public
15 - I Ignored My Brain
It's a predictions episode, people! In episode 15, the Katies discuss industry trends, predictions for the year ahead, and best practices for 2025 communications program planning. Episode Timestamps00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Recap of Previous Episode04:43 - Reflections on Industry Layoffs and Support13:47 - Best practices for your 2025 communications program planning 32:20 - 2025 Communications Trends and Predictions35:52 - The Impact of AI on Communications43:55 - Dumb in privateConnect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-12-10
50 min
Smart in Public
14 - CCO succession planning + United Colors of Benetton and the Paris Olympics had a baby
In episode 14 of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies explore the evolving role of the Chief Communications Officer (CCO) and the importance of succession planning in communications. They discuss the rise of CCOs in the C-suite, the new 'CCO plus' role that encompasses a broader range of responsibilities, and the skills needed to prepare for a CCO position. The conversation also delves into the recent Jaguar rebrand and the controversial ad campaign that sparked discussions about brand strategy and audience engagement.Episode links:Axios Communicator ArticleSign up for the Axios Communicators Newsletter
2024-12-03
43 min
Smart in Public
13 - JD Sports
If you're looking for an episode that feels like you're eavesdropping on some random gals chatting next to you, this hodgepodge of an episode is the one for you. The Katies have had some manic work schedules lately, so we thought we'd use this time to share some items that are top of mind. Do we talk about PR? Sure. Will you laugh more than you learn in this episode? Likely. We're just happy to be here, honestly. So grab a sandwich and a glass of wine and enjoy our happy ramblings. We'll be more productive next week, we...
2024-11-26
38 min
Smart in Public
12 - Your exec comms playbook told through the eyes of a founder w/ Matt Fairhurst, Co-founder & CEO of Skedulo
In this week's episode, the Katies welcome Matt Fairhurst, co-founder and CEO of Skedulo, to the pod to discuss the partnership between a founder and a comms team. Fun fact: this episode isn't just for Comms people. It's also a great one to listen to if you're a founder wanting to explore how and when to bring comms support into your business, and identify the best strategies to improve your communications style as a leader. Topics include:How internal communications is critical for founders to maintain alignment and culture.Technology shifts that create opportunities...
2024-11-13
41 min
Smart in Public
11 - Thoughts and Prayers to Intuit’s PR team
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the PR team at Intuit as we dive into this all too familiar case study focused on executive training, expectation setting, and article amendments. We'll dive into the various fallouts that can stem from a CEO interview, the importance of context when navigating article amendments, new ways of thinking around executive and journalist preparation, and what we would have done differently in the situation. It's a tough but critical topic for any PR person who manages the C-suite.Episode time stamps:1:14 - Case Study: Intuit and The Verge...
2024-11-05
34 min
Smart in Public
10 - Pitching Cat Food
We’ve been getting a lot of listener emails – some with episode topic requests and some with quick questions. For this episode, we thought it would be fun to read the quick questions and answer on the fly! Hear our experiences and views on media accountability, navigating a PR career when you move internationally, the definition of comms and the role it plays throughout a business, and some PR horror stories that won't get us fired.Episode Timestamps:2:51 - Media accountability and journalism5:36 - Navigating career transitions when moving internationally8:37 - The definition of Communications and PR11...
2024-10-29
42 min
Smart in Public
9 - Future-proof your agency PR strategy with Mandy Galmes, Managing Director & Managing Partner ANZ for Sefiani Agency
It takes a special leader to lead an agency and do it with heart and soul. In this episode the Katies are joined by Amanda (Mandy) Galmes, Managing Director and Managing Partner ANZ for Sefiani Agency, part of the Clarity Group. Mandy dives into all things agency talent, hiring, helping clients tell their stories - particularly around the growing field of responsible business - and the challenges with doing exec comms in this current climate. Episode timestamps:00:54 - Mandy's Journey into Public Relations04:30 - The Importance of People in Agency Work08:04...
2024-10-22
45 min
Smart in Public
8 - Interview with David Swan, Technology Editor for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald
This week the Katies welcome one of Australia's leading technology reporters and editors David Swan. David's currently the Technology Editor for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald, and was previously Technology Editor for The Australian newspaper. In 2024 he was awarded Australia's best technology journalist at The Lizzies, Australia's national IT Journalism awards. In this episode, we explore the relationship between comms people and media - including when we get it right and when we get it wrong. We also discuss some of the differences between US and Australia in terms of execs and media, David’s style of writing an...
2024-10-15
39 min
Smart in Public
7 - Know Your Time Zones
This week the Katies dive into the complexities of building and managing global communications teams. Doing this well means more than just finding the right people overseas – it’s about understanding the market’s storytelling nuances, cultural differences, identifying key publications and journalists, and building trust within your international team members to let them localize with impact.Episode Time Stamps:00:00 - Introduction to Global Communications Teams04:45 - Identifying the Right Time to Hire10:28 - Hiring the Right People for the Market16:05 - Managing Teams Across Time Zones21:46 - Building Trust and Cultural Unders...
2024-10-08
50 min
Smart in Public
6 - Interview with Pip Marlow, NED - formerly CEO of Salesforce A/NZ, Suncorp Executive, and MD of Microsoft Australia
The partnership between comms and execs is critical for success – and can also be complicated. In this episode, the Katies are joined by Pip Marlow, Non Executive Director, former CEO of Salesforce Australia & New Zealand, Suncorp Executive and Managing Director of Microsoft Australia, to discuss the importance of the comms/executive relationship, how to build a strong working relationship between comms and the c-suite, whether comms people make good board members, and inevitably we will discuss the latest and greatest in skincare!Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest id...
2024-10-01
53 min
Smart in Public
5 - Flash Mob
This week the Katies explore the mystical world of paid, owned, and earned content strategies. You'll hear insights around which strategy to leverage and when, what the benefits are for each, and how to strategically educate stakeholders around preferred strategies when presenting your plans.Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-09-25
48 min
Smart in Public
4 - Interview with Ashish Patel, former SVP of Communications at Salesforce
The Katies welcome long-time friend and colleague Ashish Patel, former SVP of Communications at Salesforce, to the podcast to discuss how to strategically make career changes that evolve with the changing needs of the PR market.Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-09-17
39 min
Smart in Public
3 - Hot Take: My Body My Choice
In our first Hot Take episode, the Katies discuss comms wins and blunders from the US Presidential Debate and the controversy surrounding Elle Macpherson's cancer treatment. Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-09-12
44 min
Smart in Public
2 - Cozzy Liv
The Katies dive into the world of managing high-functioning PR teams. Topics include how to build a team centered around trust and creativity, managing-up to leadership, and the art of establishing strong executive relationships.Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-09-10
52 min
Smart in Public
1 - Only Up From Here
In this very first episode of Smart in Public, Katie and Katie introduce themselves to the podcasting universe and discuss some of the notable signals, trends and shifts happening across the PR landscape.Connect with us on: Instagram TikTok Web Have a topic or a guest idea? Email us at hello@smartinpublicpod.com
2024-09-06
44 min
The ManKind Podcast
Four Simple Questions To Overcome Your Stories | Kathryn Dixon | Ep #035
Text Us Your Feedback! (Likes, Dislikes, Guest/Conversation Recommendations). In Episode #035 of The ManKind Podcast, Brandon interviews Clarity Coaching Institutes Founder, Kathryn Dixon.Dixon’s work is dedicated to helping people transform challenges, difficulties, and roadblocks into peace, freedom, clarity, power, and joy beyond belief. You're Going To Love This Episode If...You're looking to get to the truth of why your head leads you astray.You want a simple process to turn around a negative thought/belief.You're sick of all of the "Gurus" out there putting a pay...
2021-08-18
57 min
The Shade Of It All: A Rucast Podrace for RuPaul's Drag Race
Episode 107: All-Stars 3, Episode 7
READERS, Katie and Kyle welcome Candice "Candy Crush" Boysen to the Shade Table to talk being fresh and new to Drag Race, Ornacia wearing Cornacia, Peppermint, hissing swans, and being curious for the rest of your life. (music: bensound.com)
2018-03-10
1h 14