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PsyDacticGame Theory for Parents and Other Humans with Kevin ZollmanPsyDactic welcomes The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting co-author, Kevin Zollman who discusses game theory as the science of strategic thinking. We explore how mathematical models like the Prisoner’s Dilemma and mechanism design can be used to manage family dynamics by creating win-win solutions rather than competitive, zero-sum outcomes. The conversation highlights practical techniques such as "I cut, you pick" for fairness, the importance of making credible threats that parents are actually willing to execute, and ways to make honesty more profitable than lying through strategic questioning. While children may be impulsive and at times difficult to predict, ap...
2025-12-281h 00
Sean Carroll's Mindscape337 | Kevin Zollman on Game Theory, Signals, and MeaningGame theory is a way of quantitatively describing what happens any time one thing interacts with another thing, when both things have goals and potential rewards. That's a pretty broad class of interesting events, so it is unsurprising that game theory is a useful way of thinking about everything from international relations to the evolution of peacock feathers. I talk with philosopher Kevin Zollman about what game theory is and how it gets used in biology and human interactions. We discuss how thinking in game-theoretic terms can help understand the origin of meaning and intentionality in human language.Blog post...
2025-12-011h 17
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and IdeasKevin Zollman on Game Theory, Signals, and MeaningGame theory is a way of quantitatively describing what happens any time one thing interacts with another thing, when both things have goals and potential rewards. That's a pretty broad class of interesting events, so it is unsurprising that game theory is a useful way of thinking about everything from international relations to the evolution of peacock feathers. I talk with philosopher Kevin Zollman about what game theory is and how it gets used in biology and human interactions. We discuss how thinking in game-theoretic terms can help understand the origin of meaning and intentionality in human language.
2025-12-011h 17
Where What If Becomes What's NextGame Theory Decoded - Part 2In the second part of a special two-part episode on Game Theory, CMU’s Kevin Zollman discusses how the principles of Game Theory can be used for the betterment of humanity – including improving social interactions, addressing complex global challenges like hunger, and improving personal relationships. He emphasizes the importance of changing the game to create positive outcomes and explores the future of Game Theory in relation to AI, technology and social dynamics.Kevin Zollman is the Herbert A. Simon Professor of Philosophy and Director of the Institute for Complex Social Dynamics at Carnegie Mellon University.
2025-06-0521 minWhere What If Becomes What's NextGame Theory Decoded - Part 1Have you ever been stuck in traffic and switched lanes, only to watch your old lane start moving faster? Or perhaps you've stood in a grocery line, debating whether to move to the shorter line, knowing others are thinking the same thing? Welcome to Game Theory in action. In Part 1 of a two-part episode, we explore the fascinating world of Game Theory with Kevin Zollman, a leading game theorist and professor at Carnegie Mellon University. We discuss the fundamentals of Game Theory, its real-world applications, and how it influences various aspects of life, from parenting to business neg...
2025-05-2129 min
Selling PlatoDr. Kevin Zollman on How to Apply Game Theory to Parenting, Poker, and LifeDr. Kevin Zollman is the Herbert A. Simon Professor of Philosophy and Social and Decision Sciences at Carnegie Mellon University, and the director of the Institute for Complex Social Dynamics. His research focuses on game theory, agent based modeling, and the philosophy of science. He is co-author with Paul Raeburn of The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting: How the Science of Strategic Thinking Can Help You Deal with the Toughest Negotiators You Know - Your Kids. He has also written for The New York Times, Scientific American, The LA Times, among other publications.
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2024-09-0559 min
BROTHERHOOD - with Josh DittmerGame Theory In 60 Minutes | Game Theory EXPERT (Kevin Zollman)On today’s episode I have a conversation with leading Game Theorist and Philosopher, Kevin Zollman. We discuss what Game Theory actually is, and how you can implement it in your life starting today.
Kevin Zollman is a game theorist and philosopher at Carnegie Mellon University. His academic research focuses on the use of game theory across the natural world, from humans to bacteria. He is the co-author of The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting: How the Science of Strategic Thinking Can Help You Deal with the Toughest Negotiators You Know--Your Kids.
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2023-10-311h 12
Origins Podcast with Ryan McGranaghanC. Thi Nguyen - This conversation will change how you see the worldThere is something irresistible about the way C. Thi Nguyen thinks about and structures the world. From the lenses of trust, art, games, and communities he thinks about seemingly everything. In each of these topics, he's written pieces that I consider to be among the most important works on them. Origins WebsiteFlourishing Commons NewsletterShow Notes:Games: Agency as Art (01:55)Anne Harrington (07:20)The Great Endarkenment Elijah Millgram (09:20)Trust and Antitrust Annette BaierHostile Epistemology (21:20)The natural selection of bad science Paul Smaldino (26:40)The Grasshopper Bernard Suits (32:20)Context Changes Everything Alicia...
2023-07-251h 15
Game Changer - the game theory podcastTo share or not to share. Credit, incentives and competition among researchers | with Remco HeesenTo share or not to share. Credit, incentives and competition among researchers | with Remco Heesen In this episode Remco Heesen shares his insights on the trade-offs researchers face when deciding whether to share intermediate results with fellow researchers. He explains how incentive structures in research lead to a suboptimal outcome and gives historic examples of prominent researchers who have been subject to these incentives. Remco then discusses possible measures that can be taken to encourage researchers to share intermediate results with their colleagues. Remco Heesen currently works as a researcher and senior lecturer at the...
2023-01-1721 min
元瓅少年遊【元瓅少年遊】理財煉金術 EP25_《金錢如何影響愛與教養？：貧富不均下的育兒經濟學》、《賽局教養法：讓孩子學會雙贏》 |方珮璀各位元瓅理財教室的大同學小同學端午節快樂！本集應該是節目結束前最後一次的長假特輯了。各位也知道我喜歡藉由引入各種經濟的科普書，來理解許多包括親子間的理財流程，今天也不例外，藉由兩本書來探討，我們如何利用經濟學的許多發現和架構，更好地增進親子間的互動與未來規劃。
我首先想藉第一本書，替大家梳理一下，到底金錢與教養之間，有著怎樣千絲萬縷的關係，又會如何互相影響。
這本書的書名叫做《金錢如何影響愛與教養？：貧富不均下的育兒經濟學》。作者是兩位教授，馬蒂亞斯．德普克和法布里奇歐．茲里波提教授（Matthias Doepke, Fabrizio Zilibotti），台灣由親子天下出版社於2021年5月出版。兩位作者都出生於歐洲，但目前都在美國大學任教於經濟系。他們的經歷可能使他們更具有跨國多元的視角，更關心在不同的社經文化環境下，父母教養子女的共通性與差異性。
經由這兩位教濟學教授的跨國資料研究顯示，世代間的教養方式和投注的心力成本，隨著經濟環境的變化而有所不同，更貼切一點來，是跟當地貧富差距是否拉大，以及教育會不會提升所得的程度有非常密切的關係。貧富愈是不均，而且教育提升所得的效果愈明顯，那麼父母就愈傾向於所謂的密集教養，也就是會投注更多的金錢／時間在教養下一代，以求提升下一代未來人生的成功機會。
書中把教養的方式分為四種：忽略／放任／專斷／威信。忽略大概就是幾乎不怎麼注意兒女，放任倒不是字面上看起來的好像放縱，而是鼓勵小孩獨立自主，讓他們自己做決定；專斷則是要求小孩順從，並嚴格控制孩子的行為，大概就是人稱的虎爸虎媽；至於威信型則是透過說理來影響子女的價值觀，希望藉此影響孩子的決定。
這裏沒有要批評哪一種方式的意思，事實上，哪一種方式比較有助於子女未來的教育成就，不能只由以上的教養方式來看，其實和父母本身的教育程度有更密切的正向關係。
好，再回到對於世代間不同的教養傾向這個現象的觀察。這一點由美國來看更是明顯，美國在1960到70年代，是貧富最為平均，所得差異沒有今天這麼明顯的世代，此時的美國父母也比較接近放任式的教養方式，對於子女的教養資源比較沒有投注這麼多。
而我們知道，1970年代以降，美國的實質中位數薪資一改之前的逐年成長趨勢，竟然隱隱有倒退的傾向，這當然跟我們在節目第一二集時談到的技術變遷逐漸帶來貧富不均的趨勢是有關聯的。與此同時，愈是注重教育投資的父母，他們的子女也取得較高的成功機會，使得整個世代的教養態度也出現變化。
各位可以去看一下附錄中的附表，事實上，父母的教育程度可能是影響子女教育成就最主要的因素。平均來說，父母的教育程度愈高，不論採取哪一種教育方式，子女取得較高教育學位的機率都比低教育程度的父母要高出很多。
這裏不由得想起上一集我們介紹的書：最美好也最殘酷的翻身時代，作者畢德歐夫提到的，第一代犧牲，第二代再努力突破中產階級向上流動的瓶頸，然後第三代就有更高更多的成功機會。我想理論與現實在這裏似乎不謀而合。原來也不是只有台灣如此，看來跨國都有類似的現象。
至於哪一種教育方式較為優異呢？其實也跟父母的教育程度而有所不同，各位同學再回去看一下附表，如果父母的教育程度都比較高，則放任和威信的方式可能更能提高子女的教育程度；但父母如果教育程度都比較低下，則威信的方式可能較其他方法要勝出。我覺得是很有意思的發現，可以供親子來參考一下。
以上說是客觀的外在環境，如何影響了我們之前五十年的教養趨勢，這提醒了我們，顯然目前的經濟情勢變化，也勢必會再回頭來影響父母怎麼考慮教養投資的規劃，我想都值得再加以留意和觀察。
好，第一本書讓我們明白了，對子女投注更多的教育培養是會帶來明顯的教育成就差異，那麼再來我更好奇的是，那麼又該怎麼去教養子女更為有效益呢？剛才討論的是教育的投資，再下來介紹的這本書則注重子女與人合作解決衝突的技巧，我個人覺得有小孩的父母都很值得拿來參考。
這本書的書名叫做：《賽局教養法：讓孩子學會雙贏》。作者是保羅‧雷伯恩，和凱文.佐曼（Paul Raeburn, Kevin Zollman），台灣由天下文化於2019年12月出版。本書藉著引入賽局意識，來思考家人間怎麼互動，不但可以有效矯正子女的行為，也藉此引導孩子養成策略性思考的機會，藉此解決可能會遇到的各種矛盾，從小訓練子女協商的藝術。
記得我們在第七集時提到過「高手賽局」以及「造局者」，在那裏引入了「賽局理論」的概念，那兩本書更多注意的是如何應用此一概念，解決成人世界的各種互動狀況。
這本書則更對焦在親子與家人間的互動，可以利用我們逐漸發現的各種心堙與經濟運算，讓家人間的互動不再混亂模糊。不但在實際的行為互動上，幫助家人對焦並達成有效的合作，同時又能撫平在互動過程中的可能情緒起伏，建立互信的基礎，達成未來持續的愉快合作。
這本書碰到許多親子教育的重要發現，我想先藉著提點出一些關鍵字，再由此串連起來一個大概的架構，但細節藏在魔鬼裏，這中間有很多值得再參詳並思考的點，希望同學們抽空研讀一下，相信能帶開許多有趣的啟發。
分類的關鍵字如下：
「有關分配」：帕雷托最優境界，我切你選，平衡輪流法，拍賣；
「有關決策」：多數決，波達計數法，隨機選擇法，隨機獨裁者；
「其他」：厭惡不公，正義感，新版棉花糖實驗（有關可信度），厭惡損失的獎懲機制設計。
其實還有非常多，限於時間和我個人的興趣，先挑這些給大家聞香一下，希望我能起到拋磚引玉的作用，讓大家先入個門看看風景，之後可以各憑所需去尋找自己想更加了解的相關知識。
好，我們先想一個問題，父母對子女的培養，除了讓他們上學學習共通的社經知識，並培養專業的技術能力以外，還想做到什麼？我想對於進入AI與演算法等自動化技術逐漸加速發展的時代，我個人認為更重要的是怎麼讓子女能夠更好地適應社會化的過程，更為順暢地解決與任何人互動時可能產生的利害衝突，還能平撫雙方的情緒，更為愉快地達成彼此都滿意的行動結果。
記得在談「高手賽局」和「造局者」時，我們談到目前的社會更傾向於合作，達到雙贏的結果，畢竟在全球化時代，幾乎沒有人能搶了就跑的一次性掠奪，要調查參與者過去的合作或衝突紀錄都很簡單，所以我們最好朝著建立自己好合作的善意口碑，對於未來在社會立足並行功建業會更為有利。
但要達成雙贏，前提是，你要認識自己想要什麼，底線是什麼，又有什麼資源，同時也要試圖去猜測或掌握你的對手玩家，他要什麼又有什麼，然後不能接受或會引起不快的可能禁忌又是什麼，這樣才可能在接下來的協商和互動中，達成愉快合作的目標。
所以我們先回頭來看，和人互動最容易碰到的經濟情境，大概不外是效率與分配的問題。效率牽涉到互動的結果能不能達到比原先狀態更好的目標，而分配就是參與的各方在互動的前中後，怎麼去規劃彼此的權利義務。
對於家庭活動來說，更多的日常活動較多牽涉到的是分配問題，然後藉由日常活動的正常進行，逐漸達到家庭所期望達到的目標，如更清潔整齊的居住境與家庭氛圍，如子女更好的學習成就，如各種社會化的技能與練習。
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所以我們在這裏關注的焦點，會比較放在賽局理論在分配，決策與機制的設計上。剛才提到的第一個關鍵字＝帕雷托最優境界（Pareto Optimality），也稱為帕雷托效率（Pareto efficiency），是指資源分配的一種理想狀態，假定固有的一羣人和一筆定額的可分配資源，從一種分配狀態到另一種狀態的變化中，在沒有使任何人境況變壞的前提下，使得至少一個人變得更好，這就是帕累託改進或帕累托最優化。而最優境界則是指分配的結果已經改進到無法在不使任何人受損的情況下重新分配，能夠再讓其他人變好。
這是經濟學上的最理想狀態，當然啦，現實上我們很難知道家人分配利害後，是不是有其他的分配方法是否讓所有人都更為滿意（或至少不會更不開心），不過因為家人相處天長地久，所以倒是不妨藉不同的互動過程，慢慢去試驗看看各種方式。
我們以本書的第一和第二章，談怎麼分配家務活動為例，我們之前提到的各種教養書有許多建議（有時還有點小矛盾），這本書作者們倒是很大方霸氣地說，乾脆拍賣啦，挺有趣。同學們不要覺得頭痛，雖說看起來在講家務分配，但其實以後在學校，在職場，在進行任何協商時，都是不妨加以考慮的可能選項。
本書簡單介紹了最傳統的價高者得的英式拍賣，還有變形版加入時間壓力的蠟燭式拍賣法，英式價格鐘拍賣法，反向的荷蘭式拍賣法。因為時間限制，請各位回書中去仔細品味一下，各種不同拍賣法的微妙之處。
我覺得同學們可以先在家庭內試試看各種拍賣法。以我的經驗來說，拍賣表面上只是一種叫價的方式，理論上應該可以逼出每個人心中對不同商品或勞務的底價或上限。但由現實層面來看，拍賣更常考驗參與者的情緒控管。這也是為何會出現這麼多五花八門的拍賣方式，因為拍賣很常會出現在現場氣氛火熱甚至被聰明人人為操弄的情況下，哄抬參與者出價過高，結果事後後悔不迭的狀況。
至於誰容易陷入這種窘境？那真是不練不知道，一練嚇一跳，所以誠心建議各位同學不如在家中先操練一下，一方面習慣非理性的市場氛圍，一方面也增強自己理性思考和抗壓能力，是很好的實習機會。這當中還有許多細節和注意事項，也麻煩同學們再去找書來看。
2022-06-0424 min
Game Changer - the game theory podcastEvolutionary game theory or 'Why you can trust a peacock' | with Kevin ZollmanIn this episode, we are talking to Kevin Zollman, professor of Philosophy and Social and Decision Sciences. Kevin explains how to use game theoretic concepts to study non-verbal communication between animals (and humans). From this perspective, seemingly useless or even costly features like the cumbersome tail of a peacock can be explained as costly (and therefore fraud resistant) signals to potential mating partners. We also discuss the limits of these concepts and alternative explanations that form the current state of research on this topic. Kevin Zollman is professor of Philosophy and Social and Decision Sciences a...
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The Value-Free Ideal is a central tenant of objective science. But how do values, value judgements, and subjectivity leak into the practice of data science and statistics. To what extent is it desirable for science to be informed by values? Kevin Zollman (Carnegie Mellon University) covers the range of key ideas, from Heather E. Douglas to W.E.B. du Bois.
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2020-11-161h 17Pod Paper ScissorsParenting Tips From Game TheoryParents are having a tough time in the COVID-19 era. But you can use the tools of game theory to negotiate with your kids and work toward peace in your household. Kevin Zollman from Carnegie Mellon University is our guest. Check out his book "The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting How the Science of Strategic Thinking Can Help You Deal With the Toughest Negotiators You Know: Your Kids." Full transcript on our web site.
2020-11-1511 min
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2019-12-051h 06
Futureproof GoldFutureproof Gold: Game TheoryCan we apply the logic of mathematics to human interactions?
What about the wild altercations of the animal kingdom?
Game Theory is the study of how we can use mathematical models to understand the interactions of self-interested actors; the application of it may help us in many endeavours from negotiating better wages to even deterring nuclear war.
To tell us more about it we're joined by associate professor of philosophy at Carnegie Mellon University Kevin Zollman.
First aired on 19/12/2015
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2019-03-0255 min
Feeling FeelingsS2 E4 - Feeling Feelings About Paying Your Dues with Kevin AveryIn this episode, we have our first guest, Kevin Avery. Kevin is an Emmy-winning TV writer, comedian, podcaster, and actor. In this conversation, we talked about his early days trying to "break into" Hollywood.
The overarching topic of this episode is PAYING YOUR DUES and what does that mean and what does that look like? So many great anecdotes are told and Kevin is hilarious and honest and transparent about what it REALLY took to get to the place he's in with his career, which is to say: he's stable and "made it."
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2018-07-1000 min
The Matt Townsend ShowWhat the Flu Does to Your Body, Game Theorist's Guide to ParentingWhat the Flu Does to Your Body (16:39)
Laura Haynes, Ph.D., is a professor of Immunology at the University of Connecticut Health. The flu season is coming to an end, a pretty nasty one. But, what exactly is the flu and how does it affect our bodies? Laura Haynes explains why the flu makes you feel horrible and how that is a good thing.
The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting (1:07:27)
Kevin Zollman, Ph.D., is an associate professor of philosophy at Carnegie Mellon University and co-author (along with Paul Raeburn) of the book “The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting”. Game Theory...
2018-06-091h 41The Matt Townsend ShowWhat the flu, Game Theory Parenting, Anxiety and DepressionWhat the flu does to your body (7:35)
Laura Haynes, Ph.D., is a professor of Immunology at the University of Connecticut Health. The Flu season is coming to an end, a pretty nasty one. But, what exactly is the flu and how does it affect our bodies. Laura Haynes explains why the flu makes you feel horrible and how that is a good thing.
The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting (53:11)
Kevin Zollman, Ph.D., is an associate professor of philosophy at Carnegie Mellon University and co-author of the Book (along with Paul Raeburn) “The game theorist's guide to parenting”. Game Theory is...
2018-05-022h 11The Matt Townsend ShowWhat the flu, Game Theory Parenting, Anxiety and DepressionWhat the flu does to your body (12:40)
Laura Haynes, Ph.D., is a professor of Immunology at the University of Connecticut Health. The Flu season is coming to an end, a pretty nasty one. But, what exactly is the flu and how does it affect our bodies. Laura Haynes explains why the flu makes you feel horrible and how that is a good thing.
The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting (1:00:18)
Kevin Zollman, Ph.D, is an associate professor of philosophy at Carnegie Mellon University and co-author of the Book (along with Paul Raeburn) “The game theorist's guide to parenting”. Game Theory, i...
2018-04-252h 18
The a16z Showa16z Podcast: The Macro and Micro of ParentingWe tend to talk about tech and parenting through devices and artifacts -- screen time, to code or not to code -- but actually, there's a bigger, macro picture at play there: game theory, economic incentives, culture, and more. So in this back-to-school episode of the a16z Podcast, two economists -- Kevin Zollman, game theorist and philosopher at CMU and author of The Game Theorist's Guide to Parenting; and Fabrizio Zilibotti, macroeconomist at Yale working on a book called Love, Money and Parenting -- share their expertise on parenting through the lens of economics.
The hallway-conversation (w...
2017-09-0629 minThe Matt Townsend ShowBrexit Effects, Game Theory and Parenting, James the MormonWhy Brexit Matters for America (15:47)
Dr. Peter Harris is an assistant professor at Colorado St. in the political science department and specializes in international relations. After several months of debate, Britain will vote on whether they will leave the European Union. This national referendum, set to take place on June 23, may have more impact the U.S. than we realize. With economic growth, and the effectiveness of counter-terrorism at stake, President Obama has urged British voters to remain part of the E.U. Dr. Harris explains more about the importance and potential harmful consequences of Brexit.
The Game Theorist's Guide to...
2016-06-012h 20
MCMP – LogicIntroduction to NetworksKevin Zollman (CMU) gives a lecture (first session) at the Summer School on Mathematical Philosophy for Female Students (26 July - 1 Agusut, 2015) titled "Introduction to Networks". Abstract: Social networks have become a central feature of the scientific study of social behavior and have been imported into philosophical discussions – like ethics, epistemology, and the philosophy of science – where social behavior is important. In ethics, scholars have asked what effect social networks might have on the evolution and maintenance of different ethical norms like fairness, cooperation, and altruism. As epistemologists have begun to take the social nature of knowledge more seriously, they too have...
2015-07-3100 minMCMP – EpistemologyThe Formation of Epistemic NetworksKevin Zollman (CMU) gives a talk at the Conference on Agent-Based Modeling in Philosophy (11-13 December, 2014) titled "The Formation of Epistemic Networks". Abstract: One important area of study for social epistemology is the social structure epistemic groups -- who communicates their knowledge with whom? Significant research has been done on better and worse communication networks, but less has been done on how a group comes to have one network or another. In this talk, I will present a number of results (some recent) from economics and philosophy about how individuals choose with whom to communicate. Understanding how individuals decide where...
2015-07-2100 min