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Future MoneyFrom Casual Hang to Cultural Movement and Why Inclusion Matters: Modi Oyewole, Founder of Swangđ§ New Episode of The Future Money Podcast
On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, Kokayi interviews Modi Oyewole, founder of Swang. An organization that was created out of what was a casual driving range hang and has since developed into a cultural movement in Los Angeles. Modi talks about being a community builder and why inclusion matters.
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2026-02-0529 min
Future MoneyVoices from the Interledger Summit 2025đ§ New Episode of The Future Money Podcast
On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, host Kokayi traveled to Mexico City for the Interledger Summit. Here, he had the opportunity to catch up with some of our panelists, workshop conveners, and summit participants to talk about what financial inclusion means globally.
A special thanks to our guests:
Afua Bruce
Amy Sample Ward
Bowie State
Tomisin Laniyi
Faefe Ahworegba
Emmanuel Osuntuyi
Hugo Gutierrez
Maria Francis
Mijan Celithio-Biaz
Nandini Harihareswara
Sheena Allen
Sophia Callender
Dr. Wilneida Negron
If you missed this yearâs Interledger Summit, visit...
2025-12-0419 min
Future MoneyFrom big tech to community education: Reimagining how money movesđ§ New Episode of The Future Money Podcast
On this episode of The Future Money Podcast, host Kokayi talks to Casey Ariel, Founder & CEO of Blaze Group, about her path from structuring multi-billion-dollar credit facilities for major tech corporations to creating a fintech education and training platform transforming how money moves through communities. Casey is currently working with the Interledger Foundation as a Strategic Lead to expand Interledgerâs reach across financial institutions, colleges, and fintech communities concentrated in underbanked regions.
To learn more about Casey Ariel and her activities, follow her website: https://www.blazegroup.io/ and https...
2025-10-3028 min
Future MoneyPassing on the torchIn this episode of The Future Money Podcast, presented by the Interledger Foundation, host Lawil Karama announces the new host, Kokayi Issa, a longtime community member and former ambassador for Grant for the Web. He discusses his journey into digital financial inclusion and his work with various innovative projects, including designing the Future Money Grant Program.
The conversation touches on the importance of inclusive design in financial services and the need to consider cultural nuances when creating technology. As Kokayi takes over as host, he aims to continue fostering meaningful discussions about the future of digital finance...
2025-09-0440 min
Future MoneyIn Conversation with ILF Grantee and Community Member Adam WaringOn this episode of The Future Money Podcast, hosts Ayesha Ware and Chris Lawrence are in conversation with ILF Grantee and community member Adam Waring.
Back in March, Adam announced that gFam, an awesome storytelling platform where creators earn tips and web monetization micro-payments, was shutting down. We had an insightful discussion with Adam on why that decision was made, his thoughts on Web Monetization, and what his next moves might be.
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2025-07-1541 min
Future MoneyIndigenomics and the Digital Future: A Conversation with Carol Anne HiltonIn this episode of The Future Money Podcast presented by The Interledger Foundation, host Lawil Karama interviews Carol Ann Hilton, CEO of the Indigenomics Institute and a leader in Indigenous economics.
We discuss her book âIndigenomics: Taking a Seat at the Economic Tableâ and its emphasis on incorporating Indigenous perspectives into global economic frameworks. Hilton explores economic justice, sustainable business practices, and the significance of self-governance.
The conversation showcases successful Indigenous business models and examines how digital financial inclusion impacts Indigenous communities. While the Indigenous economy is surging, full Indigenous economic participation remains limited. Hilton advocates for combining traditional know...
2025-03-2734 min
Future MoneyEmpowerment through design: Kumquatâs approach to Financial Inclusion.Welcome to the Future Money Podcast. In this episode, host Lawil Karama speaks with Larissa Lamporsad and Kayee Au, co-founders of Kumquat, a product design and user strategy consultancy based in South Africa with global reach. They share their journeys and discuss how trust, simplicity, and dignity in designing financial services shape their work at Kumquat. The discussion explores the importance of cultural relevance and ethical solutions, highlighting how thoughtful design drives innovation and meaningful change in todayâs digital finance landscape. To learn more about Kumquat, please visit their website or reach out to Kayee Au or Laurisha Ra...
2025-02-2757 min
Future MoneyFrom Engineering to Digital Financial InclusionIn this episode of the Future|Money Podcast, we sit down with Santosh Viswanatham, a seasoned engineer and open-source advocate from Hyderabad, India.
We explore Santoshâs personal journey, the impact of digital financial inclusion in India, and his active role in the open-source movement, particularly in web monetization and financial technology.
Santosh shares his firsthand experience of how Indiaâs Unified Payments Interface (UPI) revolutionized the financial landscape, bringing millions into the banking system and enabling seamless digital transactions. The conversation leads us to the potential of web monetization, challenges in adopting new financial technologies, and examine how open...
2025-01-3037 min
Future MoneyLooking back, Moving forwardIn this special episode of the Future Money Podcast, we look back at a year off digital financial inclusion Through curated highlights from guest conversations. We explore the evolving landscape of digital transactions, the role of food in community building, and artistsâ unique perspectives on value, universal payment systems, and innovative approaches to creating a more inclusive financial future. Join us as we revisit the moments that sparked meaningful discussions and highlighted remarkable progress in narrowing the financial gap.
Check out the full conversations featured in this episode, listed below!
Mia Wright Ross - Loose Change
Su...
2024-12-1932 min
Future MoneyReimagine global payments with the creators of InterledgerIn this Future Money Podcast episode, host Sabine Schaller converses with Stefan Thomas and Evan Schwartz, the Interledger Protocol (ILP) co-creators. They explore ILPâs development journey, scalability, and its potential to create a universal payment network.
The conversation delves into their design process, which aims to simplify and route payments seamlessly across different networks, much like how the Internet handles data.
The discussion also touches on future outlooks, focusing on automated transactions, Dassi (a peer-to-peer implementation driving ILP adoption), ILDCPâs potential, and community involvement through events like the Interledger Summit in Cape Town and...
2024-10-2445 min
Future MoneyArchitecture of TrustIn this episode of the Future Money podcast, we sit down with Joran Greef, the CEO of Tiger Beetle. Joran shares his journey from a childhood passion for business and coding in Cape Town to leading an innovative international team. The conversation delves into Tiger Beetleâs development as a financial transactions database, highlighting its speed, reliability, and use of open-source technology. Joran explains how trust and innovative consensus protocols are crucial to the systemâs success.
Want to learn more about TigerBeetle and its process?
Joran Greef will present his thoughts on the future of financial tran...
2024-10-1054 min
Future MoneyRedefining financial inclusion with ChimoneyIn this episode of the Future Money Podcast, we convene with Uchi Uchibeke, a technologist and entrepreneur. Uchi shares his journey from growing up in Nigeria to securing a scholarship to study in Canada and his experiences with limited hands-on learning opportunities in Nigeria, which led him to pursue further education abroad.
We also discuss Chimoney, a platform for financial inclusion and economic empowerment that aims to enhance financial services, support digital identities, and adopt the Interledger Protocol.
To learn more about Chimoney, follow this link.
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2024-08-2646 min
Future MoneyInterledger on CampusIn this episode of the Future Money Podcast, we present The Interledger Salon. We focus on the Interledger Foundationâs work on campus involvement and partnerships with universities. Our guests, Dr. Allan Davids of the University of Cape Town, Dr. Andrew Mangle of Bowie State University, and Interledger Foundationâs CEO and President Briana Marbury, discuss the challenges and successes of integrating open payments into university curriculums. The conversation highlights the importance of education in expanding digital financial inclusion.
The episode also explores the programâs evolution at Bowie State University and the University of Cape Town, includ...
2024-07-1150 min
Future MoneyWhy Digital Financial Inclusion MattersWeâre thrilled to announce the first Interledger Salon on the Future|Money podcast, a quarterly panel hosted by the Interledger Foundation with facilitation by Chief Program Officer Chris Lawrence. These discussions aim to connect our community to multilateral stakeholders in the digital financial inclusion sector. As such, we invited Jayshree Venkatesan from the Center for Financial Inclusion, Ed Cable from Mifos, and Paula Hunter, Executive Director of Mojaloop Foundation, who all share our dedication to creating a fairer financial world.
We hope you enjoy this episode of the Future|Money podcast presents The Interledger Salon.
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2024-05-2858 min
Future MoneyWaterworks of MoneyWelcome to another episode of the Future| Money podcast. In this episode, weâre talking to Carlijn Kingma from Waterworks of Money, a project that explores the metaphor âmoney as waterâ. Weâll discuss how Carlijn, as an artist and architect, makes complex topics like monetary systems and financial structures more accessible, engaging, and comprehensible to a broader audience. And we explore how her project, Waterworks of Money, ignites essential conversations to advance financial literacy and inclusion.
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2024-05-1439 min
Future MoneyRe/SimulateWelcome back to another episode of the Future|Money series! Today, weâre thrilled to be in conversation with with Felipe Brugues, Ana Rodriguez, and Juan Carlos Leon, an inspiring collective based in Mexico City and Quito. Today we are diving into their project, Re/Simulate. This fascinating artwork digs deep into the effectiveness of financial and economic programs, often found in self-help business literature and political policies across the globe. Using interactive computational simulations of economic models, Re/Simulate steers one huge 3D clay printer. As we explore the sculptural possibilities, the gaps, pitfalls, and even the strengths of...
2024-04-3052 min
Future MoneyTaking the train to Digital Financial InclusionJoin this weekâs episode where we welcome our newest host, Chris Lawrence, Chief Program Officer of the Interledger Foundation. Chris converses with Dr. Andrew Mangle, an Associate Professor from Bowie State University. They discuss the partnership between the Interledger Foundation and Bowie State, which provides students with learning opportunities in fintech, open-source technology, and Digital Financial Inclusion. Donât miss the insights into Dr. Mangleâs journey, student motivations, mentorship, and the upcoming event. #amtrackathon.
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2024-04-1640 min
Future MoneyLiminal MatterIn this episode, we are in conversation with Lena Ghaninejad. She will be sharing more about her artwork, Liminal Matter. The installation aims to illustrate the evolution of money from tangible matter that originates directly from the Earth (grains, food & stones) into an increasingly immaterial entity that leaves more people behind as financial systems complexify and access to technology remains limited -thus asking the question: how can we best share the planetâs resources?.â
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2024-04-0235 min
Future MoneySikhula Sonke: Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village BankingIn this episode, we are in conversation with Esther Mwema. She will be sharing about her project, Sikhula Sonke: Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village Banking, which she created together with Jon Adam Chen and three different communities in Zambia and South Africa. Sikhula Sonke is an isiXhosa phrase which means âwe grow together.â The project is a mixed media artwork and storytelling project that documents informal savings groups as a way of understanding inclusive financial models in Southern Africa. In recognition of the wisdom that already exists within local communities and is little understood outside of them, the project focu...
2024-03-1941 min
Future MoneyBringing Down A MountainIn this episode we talk with Subhashish Panigrahi, he is a civil society leader and documentary filmmaker with an interest in tech, media, and society. His films focus on conservation and assertion and broader issues of access, digital rights, and openness. He advocates for community-led media, open tech development, and indigenous sovereignty. Subhashish will share more about his childhood in India and how language influences social constructs and access to technology. In his new short film, âBringing Down A Mountain,â a docufiction set in the Odia Language, he uses Open Source imagery to reimagine how technology is built, implemented, and...
2024-03-0549 min
Future MoneyParallel SocietyIn this episode, we converse with XiaoXiao, also known as Xiaoji Song. She is an artist, writer, and researcher currently based in Berlin, Germany. Her work centers around community-specific experiences, influenced by texts, games, and performances. These experiences often touch on topics such as migration, techno-politics, and the performative aspect of political memory, particularly their relevance to global phenomena. In this episode, we will delve into her work âParallel Society, âThe Parallel Society is a cyber-drama that explores financial inclusion and equity by featuring the parallel fate of two characters, a Lebanese migrant in Barcelona and a villager in rura...
2024-02-2029 min
Future MoneyLoose (Chains) ChangeIn this weeks episode, We will talk with Mia Wright Ross who is an Artist, leather artisan, designer, educator, and entrepreneur. She specialised in the leather Cording technique and was one of the eight artists selected to participate in the Future|Money Arts and Culture grant by Interledger Foundation.
We will discuss her artwork, âLoose Change (Chains)â, a community based project that reimagines the financial structure by which a litter of lottery tickets are used to question the theologies of money, wealth, gain, loss, and hope that persist through systems that prevail within the history and legacy of the...
2024-02-0638 min
Future Moneyan Inti/vationThe first episode is a conversation with Kokayi Walker, a Grammy-nominated musician and composer who co-designed the Future Money grant.
We discussed how he uses technology in his art practice, And how heâs experienced the tension of financial exclusion, and his collaborations with international artists.
We also explored in our chat how the seemingly simple exchange of money for creatives awakens larger issues of privacy, surveillance, fair wages, exploitative commerce, and the complexities of navigating financial exchange across borders. In the second half of the podcast, we discussed the symbiotic and sometimes fraught relationship be...
2023-09-1841 min
Future MoneyTrailer Future|Money PodcastThe Future Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation. We invite people of all backgrounds and disciplines to imagine what a financially inclusive future might be.
In the first episodes, weâre focusing on the creative arts and interviewing artists whose work provokes new ways of thinking about a more expansive, inclusive future of how we get, spend, and share money.
The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed!
Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future.
Follow th...
2023-09-0701 min
Everyone Loves GuitarKokayi: Rapping, Depression & being a freestyle Jazz MC âYou better unpack your bags...âOn this Kokayi interview, the moment he knew he wanted to be a rapper, why heâs the only rapper who MCâs freestyle in the jazz genre, his TedX talk and how he got the gig⌠Growing up in DC and his tempestuous relationship with his dad, dealing with being dropped from a label, dealing with friends in business (and why itâs not always easy), a healthy way of dealing with depression, difference between Kokayi and Carl Walker (his birth name), best decision he ever made, resilience, Key Lime pie, âNO excuses,â the power of âI donât have itâŚâ cook...
2021-05-242h 01
HouseStudioDCHistory - Featuring Kokayi (feat. Mikki)The first track from the House Studio Records #5149 compilation "History" features Grammy nominated producer/artist Kokayi and singer/songwriter Mikki.
Produced by: Reggie Volume x Brandon Carlyle for House Studio Records
Writers: R Tarver, B Strickland, M Carlton, J Grotticelli, C Walker, D Hampton
Additional Vocals: M Carlton, C Walker
Musicians: B. Strickland
Arrangement: D Hampton, J Grotticelli, M Carlton, B Strickland, R Tarver, C Walker
Recording Engineer: J Grotticelli
Mixing Engineers: D Hampton, J Grotticelli
Mastered by: J Grotticelli
2015-06-1404 min
Audible Treats Hip-Hop PodcastHip-Hop Podcast 87In Iconocastic's hip-hop podcast volume 87, we've got:
The Niceguys - "Somebody" Feat. Lee Lonn Walker
Kokayi - "RoxTar Remix" Feat. Substantial By DJ Roddy Rod
A.Dd+ - "Likeamug" Feat. Sore Losers
Roach Gigz - "Rockin' and Rollin'" Feat. Marlo
Erk Tha Jerk - "Hands Up" Feat. Netta Brielle
2011-02-1619 min