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Slow & SteadyDon’t code the thing, talk to people firstThe Userlist team is undertaking their next big project. The Pirate family spends a nice vacation at the cabin.Keeping up with their quarterly planning, Benedikt and the Userlist team have decided on their big project for the second quarter: the UI redesign. Feeling excited and a bit nervous about the project, Benedikt hopes that doing it in phases will keep it from exploding into a huge project.Benedicte and her Pirate family spent a nice vacation at the cabin during Easter and also doing some maintenance work. Work wise, the team at Outseta is...2025-05-0142 minSlow & SteadyGetting some help from AIBenedikt and Benedicte share how they’re leveraging AI to help with their current projects.For their Galleon Gateway project, Benedicte’s been working with Claude to come up with a Laravel implementation that she can feed to Cursor. While it’s going well for a couple of her projects, here’s one thing that AI can’t help with just yet: time zone bugs.Benedikt gave AI another try to help with the revamp of their Python library. While it turned out nice after a lot of revisions, he also ended up reading Python documentat...2025-04-0334 minSlow & SteadyYou don’t know what you don’t knowBenedicte and Benedikt talk about vibe coding and more.Recently named one of Norway’s Leading Women in Tech for 2025, Benedicte feels honored and realizes the importance of having role models in your life. And despite feeling scattered these past weeks, she’s getting to know the API katas for Outseta and was also able to deploy the first version of the script for Galleon Attributes.Benedikt and the Userlist team are still wrapping up their transactional email endpoint. And in the process of making the documentation for this, they ended up rewriting and rebuilding thei...2025-03-2046 minSlow & Steady“Finish it and ship it” modeThe Userlist team is wrapping a couple of product stuff up. Benedicte and her Pirate family are testing a new sport.With the first quarter of the year almost coming to an end, Benedikt and the Userlist team are working on finishing and shipping a couple of projects including their transactional messages API. He’s also figured out how to do partial date matches (hint: leap years make it complicated).Benedicte has been productive in the past few weeks: Galleon.tools is now live, she coded a new booking flow for Whee, and they just ha...2025-03-0749 minSlow & SteadyThe silver lining of a cancellationBenedicte feels recharged. Benedikt shares the bright side of a customer cancellation.After the crazy beginning to her year, Benedicte is feeling recharged and productive. With the support load down, she finally released the article on WeWeb + Outseta and a companion expansion guide to the integration. Benedicte and Ola are also working on their latest project, Galleon.It’s been pretty busy on the product-side for the Userlist team: they shipped company trigger support for nodes and the first version of the transactional messages endpoint and UI. With the product continuously evolving, Benedikt and Jane ar...2025-02-2032 minSlow & SteadyStarted 2025 with a bangBenedikt and Benedicte share their plans for 2025.2025-02-0639 minSlow & Steady2024: Wins, struggles, and everything in betweenBenedikt and Benedicte take a look back at the highlights of their 2024.2025-01-0932 minSlow & SteadyThe calm before Christmas 🎄After a couple of eventful weeks, things are finally slowing down for the holidays.Queen Raae’s let-it-snow scriptUserlist’s Conversion Goals featureThings have been pretty busy on the product side for Benedikt and the Userlist team: launching the Conversion Goals feature, releasing new workflow node types, and more. And after working around a hard problem for quite a while, the team has finally refactored how the platform works with conditions.With Webflow cutting their membership feature in 12 months, Benedicte is planning to make some good demos that would hopefully attract former Webflow customers. And...2024-12-1940 minSlow & SteadyDebugging horror stories 👻Benedicte and Benedikt share life and work updates, and some debugging horror stories.Benedicte and her Pirate family have been low key sick all month. Despite feeling under the weather, they were able to bake and pack more than 100 cookies for the Christmas Market at school. She finished her Xano + Outseta (XO) Vanilla Demo for Outseta, and is doing price adjustments for Whee.Benedikt feels recharged from his birthday vacation last weekend. On the work front, they recently shipped improvements on how they do condition on Userlist, making it possible to filter users by companies...2024-11-2850 minSlow & SteadyToo old for fun and modular startup furnitureBenedikt is in productive mode. Benedicte plays around with Xano.Benedicte is done with fun and modular furniture A fun fact about the world’s first 4G networkTo cope with the stressful events in the world, Benedikt went into productive mode these past week. They’ve made great progress with their company triggers, built some command line tools to help with debugging workflows, and more.Benedicte recently attended a startup program by Telia with the Whee team. She’s also been playing around with Xano and met someone who’s currently using the tool for a lar...2024-11-1446 minSlow & SteadyPushing boundariesBenedicte is winning at her quarterly goal. Benedikt makes great progress with company triggers.Benedicte makes the Twitter-viral butter chicken recipeWith only two months left in the year, Benedicte is crushing her quarterly goal: to have an enjoyable everyday life. At Whee, she’s pushing the boundaries of their Make plan, and will be testing out a tool for their customer SMS.Benedikt and the Userlist team are making good progress with the company triggers feature. While there’s still a long way to go, Benedikt shares that they’ve now got a rough idea o...2024-10-3128 minSlow & SteadyDo we really need an app for everything?Benedikt comes back from MicroConf. Benedicte returns from their fall vacation.Benedicte’s view while coding on the boatBenedicte and tech are in a situationshipBenedikt is feeling a bit drained after having an eventful time at MicroConf. While the conference itself was great, he experienced interesting things along the way: from getting flights cancelled to being in the same hotel with a world leader.Benedicte and her Pirate family spent a nice fall vacation on a boat with Captain Ola’s friend. But with the Framer Plugin launch happening in the middle of the vaca...2024-10-1735 minSlow & SteadyGet up off the deskBenedicte and Benedikt talk about how taking breaks actually help your projects, and more.The power of breaks, a story in three partsLeo’s talk at EmberFestBenedicte’s excited for the wins at her fractional roles: they’ve just launched their Framer plugin at Outseta; and she discovered the wonders of Make.com while creating a Stripe webhook for Whee. But despite doing a lot of stuff at work, Benedicte now makes sure she has time to take care of herself.Meanwhile, Benedikt is enjoying the conference season. He just returned from E...2024-10-1133 minSlow & SteadyNo perfect solutionBenedikt comes back from a short vacation. Benedicte talks about their struggles with estimated arrivals at Whee.EmberFestPrior to his vacation in Munich last week, Benedikt and the Userlist team pushed a few of their upcoming features into production. He’ll also be meeting Leo for the first time in person this week at EmberFest in Dublin.With so many factors that might affect the estimated arrivals of their rented bikes, Benedicte and the Whee team are looking for better solutions to this roadblock. She also shares her observations while she watches Lillian and th...2024-09-1242 minSlow & SteadyLovely Everyday LifeBenedicte and Benedikt talk about their hobbies.EmberFestCards Against ArtisansNow that the school year has started, Benedicte is enjoying a freer mental space. With this, she decided that her focus project for next quarter will be “Lovely Everyday Life” so she can do activities that make her everyday life lovelier. Benedicte also recently attended Laravel Live Denmark where she talked about the Joy of Side Projects.Benedikt is making great progress with his drumming and is thinking about signing up for in-person lessons to further improve his skills. Leo will be talking at EmberFest in D...2024-08-2932 minSlow & SteadyA not so slow summerBenedikt and Benedicte talk about this year’s unusual summer pace, bug fixing, and more.With most people going on vacations during the summer, businesses usually anticipate things to slow down a bit for the season. But unlike previous years, it looks like businesses are not seeing much of a summer slump this year.Benedikt and the Userlist team have been chipping away at some small improvements on the product, dealing with weird bugs, and have an upcoming database maintenance.Benedicte is also dealing with bugs at Whee and is plowing through dependency he...2024-08-0829 minSlow & SteadyA summer of heat waves, tropical storms, and everything in betweenBenedicte shares stories from their summer at the cabin. Benedikt talks about their latest product improvements.The summer brought nice summer nights and tropical storms in Scandinavia, giving Benedicte and her pirate family some memorable cabin office life experiences. She also shares that they’ve fixed up a part of their property and listed it on Airbnb. Meanwhile, It’s a hot and humid summer in Benedikt's part of Europe. Despite the heat, Bendikt and the team got a lot of things done: finishing the exports, improving imports, and now have a nicer overall batch opera...2024-07-2633 min
Data in the WildThe What, Why, & How of Data Modeling with Dan SingermanToday, we’re joined by Dan Singerman, founder and director of Reason Factory. He talks to us about why you should consider the user’s mental model when creating software, why it’s important to have consistent vernacular across your system, and more.Reason FactoryFollow Dan on TwitterChapters(00:36) - Dan’s background and what his consultancy does
(04:03) - What is a model?
(06:45) - The challenges with modeling
(11:03) - Tall tale about the issue encountered with a music streaming platform’s data model
(23:25) - Tips on effective data modeling
(38:36) - The importance of consistent vernacular
(44:41) - Why you sh...2024-07-2448 min
Data in the WildSimplifying Developers’ Lives with Ivar ØsthusToday, we’re joined by Ivar Østhus, CTO and co-founder of Unleash. He talks to us about the inspiration behind Unleash, why they have two different APIs in their platform, and more.UnleashCheck out Unleash on GitHubFollow Ivar on TwitterFollow Unleash on TwitterChapters(00:33) - What is Unleash?
(01:05) - Tall tale about the inspiration behind Unleash
(02:37) - How Ivar learned about continuous delivery
(10:04) - The two APIs in Unleash
(16:33) - Backward compatibility and deprecation strategy
(22:51) - Users, permissions, and roles
(31:25) - How Unleash gets enterprise customers
(39:29) - Ivar’s data model tip
Sponsor...2024-07-1044 minSlow & SteadyWhy go to therapy if you can podcastIt’s another bittersweet episode as our hosts talk about wins and some sad news.Whee! wins the Oslo environmental prizeQueen Raae and her family on the way to the cabin officeThe past couple of weeks have been a whirlwind for Benedicte: attending Lillian’s flute recital, spending a spa day with Salma (@whitep4nth3r on Twitter) in Larvik, and traveling back to Oslo to receive Whee!’s award. Last week was also very emotional for her and the family because they finally moved mom to the nursing home.Benedikt is feeling productive again...2024-06-2826 min
Data in the WildDemystifying DNS with Anthony EdenToday, we’re joined by Anthony Eden, co-founder of DNSimple. He talks to us about the difference between DNS and domain registration, what ephemeral data is, and more.DNSimpleHow DNS WorksFollow Anthony on TwitterConnect with Anthony on LinkedInChapters(00:35) - What is DNSimple?
(01:24) - DNS versus domain registration
(02:44) - DNSimple’s tech stack
(04:05) - Example of ephemeral data
(10:06) - Tall tale about the missing model
(32:19) - Anthony’s data modeling tip
(36:35) - Tall tale about the server that almost caught fire
SponsorThis show is brought to you by Xata, the only server...2024-06-2642 minSlow & SteadyA bittersweet updateBenedikt shares a bittersweet update at work. Benedicte talks about Whee.WheeThe Userlist team went into hiring mode these past couple of weeks as a team member will be saying goodbye soon. On the upside, Benedikt has successfully completed the drum course and will be rewarding himself with some new gear.Benedicte shares how Whee works, and the ideas they’re currently exploring to serve more customers in the future.2024-06-1343 min
Data in the WildNavigating Geodata with Mathias HansenToday, we’re joined by Mathias Hansen, co-founder of Geocodio. He talks to us about the challenges of dealing with geodata, how opening up data helps improve accuracy for everyone, and more.GeocodioFollow Mathias on TwitterChapters(00:52) - What is Geocodio?
(04:01) - Geocodio’s tech stack
(06:46) - Data models and flexible pricing
(10:13) - Challenges in geocoding
(19:05) - Long lat or lat long?
(20:39) - Challenges of having locations near bodies of water
(23:25) - How opening up data could help with accuracy
(25:00) - Mathias’ tall tale about why they’re only available in the US and Canada
(39:26) - Why you...2024-06-1246 minSlow & SteadyA Journey from SaaS to Self-Discovery with Shai SchechterShai Schechter chats with Benedikt and Benedicte about his journey with RightMessage and what he’s been up to these days.Feelings WheelFollow Shai on TwitterCheck out Shai’s websiteExplore Shai’s reading listBoth coming from software backgrounds and coming into the online marketing world, Shai and Brennan created RightMessage to have marketing sites become a bit more dynamic and change based on who was visiting. Shai exited the company in 2023 after working on the product for six years. Since then, he’s been taking it slow and steady while he figures out what to do next.2024-05-301h 01
Data in the WildThe Two Hard Things in Software Development with Benedikt DeickeToday, we’re joined by Benedikt Deicke, co-founder and CTO of Userlist. He talks to us about why naming things and cache invalidation are hard, why it’s a good idea to denormalize your data sometimes, and more.UserlistReal Time Analytics with PostgreSQLFollow Benedikt on TwitterFollow Userlist on Twitter and LinkedInVisit Benedikt’s websiteChapters(01:28) - What is Userlist?
(02:10) - Userlist’s tech stack
(04:40) - You don’t always have to normalize your data
(12:27) - Naming things is hard
(14:01) - Cache invalidation is hard
(18:28) - How Userlist maintains data accuracy
(29:24) - How Benedikt developed their real-time reporting...2024-05-2947 minSlow & SteadyEmbracing the fractional lifeBenedicte enjoys the mix of remote and in-person activities that comes with her several fractional roles. Benedikt tries to get back into the work groove.WheeUrlboxBenedicte is enjoying the mix of her fractional roles with Outseta and Whee, giving her the best of both worlds of remote and in-person work. She also shares details about their upcoming collaboration with Urlbox.Coming back from a long vacation and taking days off for some holidays the past few weeks, Benedikt is still trying to get back to regular programming at work. He’s also thinking about wh...2024-05-1640 min
Data in the WildTwo-sided Marketplaces with Anna MasteToday, we’re joined by Anna Maste, exited founder of Boondockers Welcome and current founder of Subscribe Sense. She talks to us about what you need to be mindful of when building two-sided marketplaces, why it’s important to make many-to-one relationships from the get go, and more.Boondockers WelcomeSubscribe SenseCheck out Anna’s Christmas songsFollow Anna on TwitterCheck out Anna’s websiteChapters(00:54) - What is Boondockers Welcome?
(01:26) - Boondockers Welcome’s tech stack
(06:48) - Time zones are hard
(10:54) - Privacy, pricing, and the two-sided marketplace model
(34:28) - What is Subscribe Sense?
SponsorThis show...2024-05-1538 minSlow & Steady🎊 200 🎊To celebrate our 200th episode, Benedikt and Benedicte take a look back at their journey since 2019 and how these milestones have shaped where they are today.UserlistWheePOW!Queen Raae & Family on YouTubeFollow Benedikt on TwitterFollow Benedicte on TwitterFollow the Slow & Steady Podcast on Twitter2024-05-031h 10
Data in the WildSaaS Pricing and Data Models with Pierre de WulfToday we talk to Pierre de Wulf, the technical co-founder of ScrapingBee. He talks to us about how they arrived at 36 different pricing data types, the difference between plans and subscriptions, and more.ScrapingBeeFollow Pierre on TwitterFollow ScrapingBee on TwitterChapters(00:44) - What is ScrapingBee?
(03:56) - The evolution of ScrapingBee’s data model
(06:40) - Subscription versus plan
(10:43) - The importance of reading documentations
(20:16) - Pierre’s tall tale about int
(22:59) - Benedicte’s tall tale about a 106-year old getting enrolled into school
SponsorThis show is brought to you by Xata, the only s...2024-05-0125 min
Data in the WildPermissions, Scopes & Roles with Monica LentToday, we’re joined by Monica Lent, founder of Affilimate. She talks to us about why you should always start with an array, the importance of storing data in the right format and database from the beginning, and more.AffilimateCheck out Monica’s websiteFollow Monica on Twitter and LinkedInFollow Affilimate on Twitter and LinkedInChapters(00:23) - What is Affilimate?
(01:19) - Diving into Affilimate's tech stack
(02:11) - A tall tale about cloud budget overrun
(07:25) - User permissions, roles, and scopes
(18:50) - Data in theory versus data in production
(20:52) - How Affilimate's data model has changed over the...2024-04-1730 minSlow & SteadyJust a couple of vacationers 🍹Benedicte enjoys her workation in Portugal. Benedikt and the team fixed two major bugs with the help of a user.Data in the WildSubscribe to Queen Raae’s YouTube channelBenedicte has been enjoying the slow life in Portugal for the past two weeks, enjoying the beach while still able to get some work done. She’s still polishing her latest services for devs and is preparing for the relaunch of Data in the Wild.Benedikt and the team resolved two major bugs with the help of a customer, which goes to show the importance of t...2024-04-1132 minSlow & SteadyBe persistent but in a polite and non-spammy, annoying wayThe Userlist team is seeing some progress with their sales process. Benedicte has some ideas of how to refine her live streaming service.Things are moving forward sales-wise for Benedikt and the Userlist team, sending a few custom-priced enterprise quotes in the past few weeks. Benedikt also shares his takeaway from his recent chat with Monica Lent.With her new Go Live with Queen Raae service, Benedicte is thinking about how to help those dev founders who are a bit hesitant about going live. And while it’s unfortunate that she didn’t get the cara...2024-03-2130 minSlow & SteadyGo live with Queen Raae 👑Benedicte is feeling playful with her latest service and project ideas. Benedikt makes it through a stressful week.Should Benedicte and Ola get the Caravan? Let them know in this thread.Mastering live streaming as a content creation flywheel for a couple of months now, Benedicte is now finalizing the details of her latest service for fellow dev founders. She’s also trying to convince Ola to get a Caravan to renovate as her office/studio.Benedikt is feeling a bit scattered after having a stressful week: he had to do a few demo calls in...2024-03-0731 minSlow & SteadyHitting break even 🎉Benedikt and the Userlist team celebrate a significant financial milestone. Benedicte leans into the human aspects of content creation.Join Benedicte’s biweekly live streams on YouTubeCheck out MixPod’s revamped web designDespite experiencing a few hiccups with their bank account and Stripe, the Userlist team celebrates a financial milestone as they’ve hit break even. As a bonus surprise, Userlist was able to sell a domain for a significant amount of money.After powering through the birthday bonanzas in January, Benedicte spent 24 hours at the spa and is now feeling re-energized and ready. And wi...2024-02-2241 minSlow & SteadyWelcome back to the show, Brian!We have Brian back on the show this week and tells us what he’s been up to.JobLens — Brian’s productThe Age of Spiritual Machines — a book by Ray KurzweilSpiritual Machines — an album by Our Lady PeaceEpisode 131: Brian is back in town, literallyEpisode 120: We Have a Contest Winner!Follow Brian on LinkedInMore than a year since he was last on, Brian tells us about his time at GitLab, JobLens, his consulting work, and his board games.Benedikt, Benedicte, and Brian also talk about tech layoffs, AI, why you shouldn’t monetize your hobbies, and more.2024-02-0856 minSlow & SteadyHolidays, birthday bonanzas, and 2024 goalsBenedicte talks about the fun during the holiday season. Benedikt shares his 2024 goals.YearCompass — reflect on the year and plan the next oneDocs for DevelopersDespite feeling a bit all over the place, Benedicte and her family had a lot of fun during the holidays. With their newly renovated house, they were able to host about 30 people for the festivities. Benedicte also plans to work on her YearCompass in February after the birthday bonanzas this month.Benedikt looks back at 2023 and it was a generally good year for him, reaching significant milestones in his personal an...2024-01-1136 minSlow & SteadyVisual workflows is now on Product Hunt 🚀Benedikt and the Userlist team launch their visual workflows feature. Benedicte shares why she now enjoys collaborations. Support Userlist’s visual workflows on Product HuntQueen Raae’s viral Ikea clipBuy Back Your Time — a book by Dan MartellAfter two and a half months of sprinting, Benedikt and the Userlist team finally launched their visual workflows. They also dusted off their website which included adding new copy, screenshots, pages, structure, and a new testimonial scroller section, among others. He’s guessing that this might have also helped get them new and better quality trials this month.Despite...2023-12-1444 minSlow & SteadyNo such thing as too many clipsBenedikt remains in crunch mode. Benedicte and her pirate family are back to streaming. Still working on their visual workflow builder, Benedikt and the Userlist team are still in crunch mode. The velocity has been crazy as they were shipping stuff super fast like adding new node types in just a couple of hours.Benedicte, together with her pirate family and AK, just finished their first stream on charting the course for MixPod. And as part of their marketing strategy, they’ll be releasing clips from the streams on various channels. She also has an upc...2023-11-1632 minSlow & SteadyA major ludditeBenedicte and Benedikt talk about their updates from the past three weeks, washing machines, winter preparations, and more.Sign the new letter to the U.S. Congress regarding Section 174Buy Back Your Time — a book by Dan MartellFour Thousand Weeks — a book by Oliver BurkemanDespite crashing into her vacation, Benedicte was still able to chill with friends while surrounded by nature. Things are going nicely at Outseta: they got shout outs at Webflow conferences and are seeing some accounts going from zero to making a lot of money in a short span of time. Benedicte also talk...2023-10-1940 minSlow & SteadyPicking up old hobbies 🩰🥁Benedicte and Benedikt talk about the old hobbies they’ve picked up and other updates from the week.Here’s Michael and Benedikt on day 1 of their drum challengePOW!, Prune Your Follows — Queen Raae’s app projectsMicroConf EuropeThings are going great for Benedikt and the Userlist team: they’re currently migrating to their new email service provider, and they’re making good progress with their visual workflow builder. He also shares that he and Michael Koper are taking on a 30-day drum challenge. Despite feeling a sore from riding camp and ballet lessons, Benedicte is now ready...2023-09-2146 minSlow & SteadyAre Gatsby and Jamstack dead?Benedikt comes back from summer vacation. Benedicte grapples with Gatsby and Jamstack “dying”.End of summer, end of Gatsby?Jamstack is Dead…Or Is It?Coming back from his three-week vacation, Benedikt is feeling relaxed and recharged. On his first few days back, he was able to work on the proper solution for their issue with large broadcasts.With the recent changes at Netlify, the dev community is wondering if Gatsby and Jamstack are indeed dead. Benedicte's recent challenges with support has given her a new product idea: a no-code authentication for no-coders. She also shares...2023-09-0754 minSlow & SteadyMarketing Experiments for OutsetaBenedicte talks to Geoff about the marketing experiments they’re doing this fall.OutsetaFollow Geoff on TwitterWatch the productive morning routine videoTailwind fake businessesNow that the business is a bit more stable, Geoff’s putting his focus back on marketing. He shares the three marketing experiments they’ll be doing later this year: “cleaning out the gutters”, working with creators, and building their content factory. Benedicte and Geoff also talk about SEO, content products, and more.2023-08-2438 minSlow & SteadySummer of UI TweaksBenedicte and Benedikt take on the challenge of #SummerofUITweaks for their products.Let us know if you’re joining the #SummerofUITweaks on this threadCurrently enjoying the last weeks of the European summer, Benedicte is loving the “chilling but still getting work done” vibe. Aside from implementing UI tweaks, they’ve also been working on the WeWeb and Supabase integrations at Outseta.Meanwhile, Benedikt and the Userlist team encountered a bug that caused a broadcast to be sent twice to its recipients. They’ve also updated their frontend dependencies, got a new UI component for their new...2023-08-1138 minSlow & SteadyDatabase constraints with Andrew AtkinsonBenedikt talks to Andrew Atkinson about different types of database constraints and his upcoming book.Read the tweet that triggered this interviewLearn more about High Performance PostgreSQL for RailsCheck out Andrew’s blogFollow Andrew on TwitterAndrew Atkinson is a staff software engineer at Fountain who is very passionate about Ruby on Rails and PostgreSQL (just like Benedikt!). He’s so passionate about them that he’s actually writing a book called “High Performance PostgreSQL for Rails” that’s coming out very soon.Benedikt and Andrew also talk about dealing with constraints and ActiveRecord, Rails validations...2023-07-2754 minSlow & SteadyWhen do you bring out the bootcamp general?Benedicte thinks about the best way to update docs. Benedikt gets excited about their product development.Get a sneak peek of Benedicte’s second floorBenedicte thinks about the best way to update Outseta docs without creating a big bang project. She’s also working on a pitch for version 2.0 of Prune Your Follows.While Michael and Jane were away, Benedikt handled customer support, giving him a new appreciation on that aspect of the business. On the product development front, the team is making great progress — phase one of the trigger refactoring is finished, they shippe...2023-07-1346 minSlow & SteadyMajor life update!Benedikt shares a major life update. Benedicte gets things wrapped up before vacation.Things were slow for Benedikt last week in preparation for his big day. Despite the slower pace of things, the Userlist team accomplished a few things: they worked on their message rendering refactoring, and made progress on their trigger unification. Feeling a bit frazzled, Benedicte wraps things up before they go on their summer vacation. She also enjoyed her time at the recent React Norway and felt very powerful (and old) when she helped someone out at her bank job.B...2023-06-2932 minSlow & SteadyWe finally met in person!Benedikt and Benedicte have finally met in person in Athens.Benedikt had a great time at the recent Rails SaaS conference where he was able to meet up with his Userlist co-founder Jane, and Benedicte. Now back in Germany and fully recovered, he’s catching up with his work at Userlist.The past few weeks have been filled with travels for Benedicte: painting their cabin in Sweden, meeting up with the Outseta founders in Athens, and going on the Slow Business Adventure gathering the west coast.Benedikt and Benedicte talk about the weather in...2023-06-1526 minSlow & SteadyBusy Bees 🐝Benedikt prepares for his upcoming Rails SaaS Conference talk. Benedicte visits her old university town.Rails SaaS ConferenceFour Thousand Weeks — a book by Oliver BurkemanRecording from Trondheim this week, Benedicte is back in town to serve as an external reviewer of the university’s IT Master Program. Her exploration of the university town felt like she was transported back to the early 2000s during her uni days.With the upcoming Rails SaaS Conference, Benedikt is currently focused on preparing for his talk. They were also able to fix some memory issues at Userlist last week...2023-05-2528 minSlow & SteadyWhat’s next for Prune Your Follows?Benedicte thinks about how to move forward with Prune Your Follows. Benedikt starts working on their conversion goals feature.Prune Your Follows@levelsio’s tweet that gave Prune Your Follows more followingThe new Twitter API has changed the rules of the game, which makes Benedicte think about options on how to move forward with Prune Your Follows. Despite this, she’s been enjoying life beyond work: signing up for window restoration classes, a sauna membership, and doing renovations.With the reporting feature wrapped up and shipped, Benedikt and the Userlist team are now working on t...2023-05-1842 minSlow & SteadyDNSimple with Anthony EdenAnthony Eden chats with Benedicte and Benedikt about DNSimple, marketing, how they delegate decision making in their team, and more.DNSimpleFollow DNSimple on MastodonFollow Anthony on Twitter, Mastodon, and LinkedInWhen Anthony and his brother created the product in 2010, they had developers in mind from day one. And unlike other domain registrars and DNS providers in the market, DNSimple lets you unlock what you can do with your domain so you can automate whatever you want.Anthony, Benedicte, and Benedikt talk about marketing tactics, delegating decision making, what’s next for DNSimple, and more!...2023-04-2740 minSlow & SteadyClean code makes Benedikt happyBenedicte takes it easy this week as she nurses a cold. Benedikt thinks about how to market their latest feature.Search three ways with Xata: Partial Match, Fuzzy Full-text, and Semantic (AI)Let Benedicte know if you would you like a “Clean code makes Benedikt happy” sticker or shirtNow sick for a third time in recent weeks, Benedicte talks about how the Norwegian government could provide assistance during these situations. She also shares a memory from five years ago which influenced the naming of her role at Outseta.With the upcoming roll out of thei...2023-04-2019 minSlow & SteadyQueen Raae joins OutsetaBenedikt and Benedicte talk about her new role and the dangers of Section 174. Episode 157: Outseta with Geoff RobertsRead Michele Hansen’s thread about Section 174Sign the Small Software Business Coalition Letter to the U.S. CongressWith all her little side quests across the years, things are culminating for Benedicte as she recently became Outseta’s new developer relations person. Now that she’s handling four jobs, she’s trying to figure out a way on how to juggle everything sustainably.Benedikt and the Userlist team have deployed the backend side of their reporting implementation. And with...2023-04-1337 minSlow & SteadyClean code makes me happyWith things now clicking, Benedikt makes great progress with their reporting feature. Benedicte pitches an old idea to some hip hop celebrities at the library. Lillylabs’ Tram Ride Audio on GitHubCheck out Oslo Stories (in Norwegian)Lillylab’s Oslohistorier on GitHubSee what Brian's up to on LinkedInA total turnaround from last week, Benedikt feels pretty happy with the refactoring he did on the reporting implementation. He found that breaking down the problem into smaller chunks really helped. Benedikt also looks forward to attending the in-person Frankfurt Ruby meetup.While accompanying Lillian to a lecture at th...2023-03-3022 minSlow & SteadyProducing, editing, and remixing contentBenedicte dreams of having a small content team. Benedikt uncovers more complications with building the reporting feature.Data in the Wild Ep. 2 with Pierre de Wulf of Scraping BeeCurrently working on a couple of content projects, Benedicte’s dreams of having a small content team that can help with the editing and remixing. She also celebrates another milestone with Prune Your Follows which recently surpassed 1,000 users.Benedikt bounces back from feeling super tired last week and got back into working on the reporting feature. Making slow and steady progress also means uncovering new issues an...2023-03-2337 minSlow & SteadyForced relaxationBenedicte enjoys some forced relaxation. The Userlist team launches the type support for the condition builder.Data in the Wild Ep. 1 with Monica Lent of AffilimateSee the type support in action After falling at horse camp the other week, Benedicte enjoys some “forced relaxation” following her doctor’s orders. And now that the “no screen time” days are over, she and Ola are excited to record the first episode of “Data in the Wild''. Benedicte also shares her joy over helping people out through her emergency calls.The Userlist team recently launched the type support for the condi...2023-03-1626 minSlow & SteadyBrainstorming for a podcast titleBenedicte brainstorms titles for their upcoming podcast series with Xata. Benedikt runs into issues with deleting large amounts of data.Add your suggestion for a podcast title on this threadDespite not being able to push through with their vacation as planned, Benedicte found a great mood booster by dancing this week. She reached another milestone with Prune Your Follows which just facilitated 25,000 unfollows this week. Benedicte’s also brainstorming titles for their upcoming podcast with Xata.Benedikt and the Userlist team have been making slow and steady progress with their reporting feature: it’s now...2023-03-0228 minSlow & SteadyWaiting for the dust to settleBenedikt and the Userlist team make more progress on their reporting feature. And with everything that’s going on with Twitter and Gatsby, Benedicte waits for the dust to settle. Know someone who can be interviewed on the upcoming data modeling podcast? Reach out to Benedicte via TwitterBenedikt feels excited about going to his first live concert after three years. Despite getting distracted with so many little things last week, he and the Userlist team were able to create a working internal version of the reporting feature. With the never-ending Twitter API saga and Netl...2023-02-2325 minSlow & SteadyOwning our identitiesBenedikt and Benedicte talk about owning their identities and more.Atomic Habits — a book by James ClearRead Benedicte’s first article on the Xata blogBenedicte feels a little frustrated that a cold has interrupted her fitness habit. Despite this, she’s looking forward to bouncing back and taking ownership of this new fitness identity. She also shares the excitement of getting her first post published on the Xata blog.Meanwhile, Benedikt and the Userlist team are making gradual progress on their upcoming reporting feature. He’s also trying to contribute more to the open source c...2023-02-1632 minSlow & SteadyDon’t build your house on someone else’s lawnBenedicte and Benedikt discuss platform risk and more.Read Michele Hansen’s thread on why you shouldn’t “build your house on someone else’s lawn”The Embedded Entrepreneur — a book by Arvid KahlCheck out Userlist’s new blog designThe Rails SaaS ConferenceWith Twitter announcing that they’re discontinuing free access to their API, Benedicte is yet to see what this means for Prune Your Follows. She also shares why she monetized this side project differently.Benedikt and the Userlist team have released their new blog design last week and are now shopping around for a new email...2023-02-0933 minSlow & SteadyTrying out new thingsBenedicte tries out a new physical activity. Benedikt works on new features for Userlist.Prune Your FollowsCheck out Userlist’s message composer in actionWith the work on the message composer all wrapped up, the Userlist team is now focused on building new features. And despite having to take care of many small things last week, Benedikt was able to figure out the issue with the blog structure.Benedicte encounters problems caused by their flaky internet connection. She also shares details about their upcoming 10-episode podcast with Xata. And as part of her plan to tr...2023-02-0220 minSlow & SteadyCelebrating the Big Four-O 🥳Benedicte celebrates her big four-o with a spa day by the ocean. Benedikt and the Userlist team work on their blog redesign.It’s been a nice weekend for Benedicte: going to a local ski resort then celebrating her birthday at her favorite spa by the ocean. It’s also been a great week at work because of new and exciting things: upcoming content creation projects with Xata and the potential of working with The Norwegian Bank.As part of their annual company planning, Benedikt and the Userlist team have decided on the three major feat...2023-01-1925 minSlow & SteadySetting Goals for 2023Cheers to the new year! Benedicte and Benedikt look back at their 2022 journeys and set new goals for the coming year.YearCompass — reflect on the year and plan the next oneListen to our 2022 goal setting episodeBenedicte was able to keep her 2022 slow and steady for the most part and was able to not get so distracted with shiny new things. For this coming year, she hopes to embrace her own content creation and take more mini breaks.And while Benedikt wasn’t able to exactly hit his recreational and financial goals last year, he’s stil...2023-01-1233 minSlow & SteadyHappy 2023!Benedikt and Benedicte talk about their wonderful holiday breaks and upcoming plans for 2023.Prune Your FollowsRead the TechCrunch feature about Prune Your FollowsSend Benedicte a message to join the Yoga PiratesWith things slowing down during the holidays, Benedikt and the Userlist team were able to successfully migrate their database to Crunchy Bridge. Despite experiencing issues a couple of days after the migration, all is very well with better monitoring and better performance (with less money thrown at the problem).The recent TechCrunch feature on Prune Your Follows has certainly attracted more attention, bringing over...2023-01-0525 minSlow & SteadyPrune Your Follows is now on Product Hunt!Benedicte launches Prune Your Follows on Product Hunt. Benedikt deals with small annoyances at work.Upvote Prune Your Follows on Product Hunt!Take a look at Benedicte’s cool new wood stoveRecovering from a bad cold last week, Benedicte gets to work on launching Prune Your Follows on Product Hunt. And after finding out new information about Twitter’s unfollow rate limit, she’s currently thinking about a workaround.Unable to get any of his planned work done, Benedikt feels annoyed with having to put out little fires and a small screw up with mergin...2022-12-1534 minSlow & SteadyFull steam ahead with Prune Your FollowsBenedikt and the Userlist team decide on their next big feature. Benedicte comes across new challenges with Prune Your Follows.Prune Your FollowsHere’s ChatGPT’s advice for launching Prune Your Follows on Product Hunt After doing a series of customer interviews, the Userlist team decided on the next big feature to work on: reporting. And with the holiday break coming up soon, they also kicked off the project to migrate their primary database from Heroku to Crunchy Data.As Prune Your Follows gains more users, Benedicte gets to work on new and exciting problems with...2022-12-0835 minSlow & SteadyCrunching through the to-do listBenedicte and Benedikt return to the daily grind after enjoying the conference season.Here’s why we had to push back the recording time of this week’s episodeGetting Things Done – a book by David AllenListen to Benedikt’s conversation with Brian Casel about shipping speedPrune Your FollowsAfter not being able to attend for the past years, Benedikt enjoyed himself at MicroConf Europe: nice weather, meeting their customer support advocate in person, and all the social events between the talks. Now back to work after his week-long birthday leave, Benedikt’s trying to figure out how to be smar...2022-12-0127 minSlow & SteadyUnleash with Ivar ØsthusIvar Østhus of Unleash chats with Benedicte about feature flagging, how they enable collaboration in teams, how they turned their side gig into a full time business, and more.UnleashFollow Unleash on TwitterFollow Ivar on Twitter and LinkedInWhat started as a side gig in a basement in Norway, Ivar and his brother turned their SaaS into a full time business in early 2021. Their tool allows teams to build features together, ship new features in small increments, and enables transparency within teams and stakeholders. Ivar and Benedicte talk about his journey to commercial exploration, how th...2022-11-2441 minSlow & SteadyComing to you from San FranciscoBenedicte enjoys a fun week at Jamstack Conf. Benedikt wraps things up at work before next week’s MicroConf Europe.Despite feeling tired after Jamstack Conf, Benedicte enjoyed a great week in San Francisco that was filled with partying and talking. She also had a nice chat with an encryption backend that might lead to a deal for POW! that’s similar to Prune your Follows.After finishing the final touches on the message composer, the Userlist team is now rolling it out for everyone. Benedikt’s also wrapping up the work on the message topics...2022-11-1121 minSlow & SteadyProtect your email address and domainAfter running into a problem with her domain, Benedicte and Benedikt talk about how to protect your email address and domain.Prune Your FollowsBDTP S6E1: Email Deliverability with Lauren MeyerRead more about SPF, DKIM, and DMARCPostmark’s DMARC Reports ToolDespite experiencing a “fail week” with technology, Benedicte celebrates a few wins with her projects such as getting Prune Your Follows ready for beta along with this week’s Xata launch and slowly converting her site to Tailwind. Benedikt and the Userlist team managed to build and ship their most requested Message Topics feature in a span...2022-11-0330 minSlow & SteadyOutseta with Geoff RobertsGeoff Roberts of Outseta chats with Benedikt and Benedicte about Outseta, their uncommon operating and compensation model, and more.OutsetaJustin WelshSDR NationFollow Geoff on TwitterWhile there are a lot of best in class tools out there, more often than not, early stage businesses only need basic functionalities to get things done.Coming from the same experience, Geoff and Dimitris used it to build Outseta, an all-in-one tech stack (that includes payments, authentications, CRM, and email) for SaaS and membership style businesses. Their tool helps founders focus more of their time on building the product...2022-10-2754 minSlow & SteadyThe best solution to feeling anxiousBenedicte lands the deal for Prune Your Follows. Benedikt deals with the slow speed of moving their rendered emails. Should Benedicte get the black or steel refrigerator?BackblazeXataGeoff Roberts of OutsetaBenedicte successfully lands the deal to rebuild Prune Your Follows with Xata, NextAuth, and Gatsby. With everything she has to get done before flying out to San Francisco, she’s looking forward to doing a good crunch time to fight the insecurities away. Benedikt is feeling a bit frustrated with the slow speed of moving rendered emails from their database to Amazon S3. And with...2022-10-2034 minSlow & SteadyWhen is a solution good enough?Benedikt focuses on solving other issues on Userlist. Benedicte makes the most out of her vacation in Germany.Conference BuddyGeoff Roberts of OutsetaWith the message composer now deployed to production, Benedikt and the Userlist team can now focus on adding more niceties and fixing other issues on the platform. Despite being unable to meet up with Benedikt last week, Benedicte had a nice and productive vacation in Germany. She was able to catch up with Mirjam Aulbach of Conference Buddy for brunch and send her proposal on the Sample App + Content Combo. As for C...2022-10-1344 minSlow & SteadyWhat makes a senior developer?Benedicte pitches her latest side project to a database startup. Benedikt gets an interesting question from his mentee.Read Benedikt and Jesse’s back and forth about shipping updatesPrune Your FollowsCampfire Labs – a content companyTraction – a book by Gabriel Weinberg and Justin MaresFirst Ruby FriendSenior Engineer Mindset – a book by Swizec TellerBenedikt and the Userlist team are putting the finishing touches on their message composer, which will be deployed to projection very soon. He also met with his First Ruby Friend mentee this week and got an interesting question: how do you become a senior developer?Ben...2022-09-2949 minSlow & SteadyConference HacksBenedicte and Benedikt share tips on how to make the most out of conferences and more.Retweet Colby Fayock’s testimonial about Gatsby Retweet Brian Lovin’s testimonial about UserlistPriya Parker’s “The Art of Gathering”Benedicte is filled with happy hormones this week because of dancing, more work from Cloudinary, and a wonderful testimonial from a customer on Twitter. She’s working on her preparations for upcoming conference talks and has also received a call for proposals for another one next year.Benedikt and the Userlist team also received praise on Twitter from a customer with...2022-09-2244 minSlow & SteadyShipping quality stuff vs. shipping stuff fastComing back from a two-week break here at the podcast, Benedikt and Benedicte talk about the progress they’re making and a few existential questions about shipping updates.Jamstack Conf 2022Modern FrontEnds Live!Prune Your FollowsWith the summer over, everyone’s in “back to work” mode and the pace is picking up.Benedikt is revitalized after his three-week vacation. The Userlist team is making great progress with the message editor. On the frontend, they’re currently polishing the UI and fixing small annoyances with the copy-paste function to make it easier for users. On the backen...2022-09-1547 min