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Who Are These Podcasts?Cowardly Duke, Opie & Ron, Whitney Cummings, Stephanie MillerThis week we start off with the time Laura Kightlinger was on Stephanie Miller and Stuttering John actually thought he had a chance. John is cracking himself up even more than usual. Laura actually tells John she used to have a crush on him and it’s the worst thing she could have done.
Bert Kreischer talks about the Zman on Fly on the Wall (allegedly). Jim Norton and Anthony Cumia talk about the StutJo lolsuit (briefly). Whitney Cummings can’t even get support from her friends after blasting Miss Rachel and becoming completely unhinged on social media...
2026-02-053h 02
What We Thought Would Happen"Tony's Ass Pocket Full of Whimsy" with Tony CaminLaura is joined by comedian, television writer, Tony Camin. They discuss avoiding music festivals, Wisconsinite's cheese stockpiles, questionable deer hunting outfits, Tony's College Radio days, "The Marijuana-logues", working with Tommy Chong, sucking at sports and the dangers of harmonicas, saxophones and modified exhaust systems. And we are very excited to announce that Tony is joining the podcast as the new co-host! All of this and more on the first episode of season two of "What We Thought Would Happen".Follow TonyCheck out Tony's new Special "A Ass Pocket Full of Whimsy"
2025-10-2844 min
The Daily StandupRecharge the batteries | Laura KightlingerEpisode 272: Laura Kightlinger is on a journey to find the balance.⏱️ Timestamps:00:00:00 - Intro00:02:01 - The focus struggle in CS00:02:38 - AI's role in modern efficiency00:03:54 - Time management and side projects00:06:20 - The exhaustion of context switching00:07:24 - Meditation and resisting distraction00:11:18 - Finding balance in a noisy world00:13:05 - Wrapping up the conversation📺 Lifetime Value: Your Destination for GTM contentWebsite: https://www.lifetimevaluemedia.com🤝 Connect with the hosts...
2025-06-2314 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Grandson of a Gun" with Chris Fairbanks"Grandson of a Gun" with Chris FairbanksLaura is joined by Comedian, Actor, Illustrator and Co-Host of "Do You Need a Ride", Chris Fairbanks. We discuss Chris' upbringing in Missoula, Montana, being the son of a Disc Jockey, Clint Eastwood not paying attention to detail, cat with AIDS running wild on a crowded plane, selling Cutco Knives, Grandma keeps stepping on rakes, Jim Jones seemed like a pretty good guy if you can get past the massacre and much more on this week's, What We Thought Would Happen.Follow Chris...
2024-12-301h 04
Probably ScienceEpisode 552 - Laura KightlingerComedian/writer/actress Laura Kightlinger (@KingKightlinger) joins Matt, Jesse and Andy to talk about spontaneous human combustion, Bourbon Room comedy shows in Hollywood, the story behind Andy's various bands, the Uranus story we don't want to cover, how one atom can change a parrot's color, blurb machine Peter Travers, peacock spiders, a blue whale that's been leaking oil for 26 years and a flu strain that we've basically beaten.
2024-11-291h 09
Sex, Drugs and SkincarePRP "VAMPIRE FACIALS" - GUEST COMEDIAN LAURA KIGHTLINGERSend us a textWhat happens when skincare meets stand-up? Comedian and vegan extraordinaire Laura Kightlinger joins us for a look into the world of beauty treatments and her comedic career. From tackling the absurdity of beef tallow in skincare Expect candid insights on veganism, the quirks of factory farming, and plenty of hilarious personal anecdotes.Ever wondered about the magic behind Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) treatments? We break it all down with a comedic twist! Join us as we chat about our own experiences with PRP, microneedling, and Fraxel treatments. With a sprinkle of humor, w...
2024-09-0448 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Don't Say Range War" with David KoechnerWe sit down with David Koechner to discuss road gigs, narcissism, SNL, Tipton MO, first foray into acting, Get me the Mayor!, Turkey Transport, being a father, The Naked Trucker & T-Bone and participating in your own dreams.X:@DavidKoechnerInstagram:@davidkoechnerWebsite:davidkoechner.comCat Demon RE-EXHUMEDExposition 7 (Pilot)WWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta: @thejimmyharry...
2024-08-1557 min
El podcast de Felipe Arenas AlgabaLaura Kightlinger - Episode 1063From SNL and many great standup specials my dear friend Laura Kightlinger sits down for a few dozen laughs.Follow Laura Kightlinger on IG @LauraKightlingerLives
2024-08-071h 24
Fitzdog RadioLaura Kightlinger - Episode 1063From SNL and many great standup specials my dear friend Laura Kightlinger sits down for a few dozen laughs.Follow Laura Kightlinger on IG @LauraKightlingerLivesAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
2024-08-071h 26
What We Thought Would Happen"Who died and made Jim Belushi famous?" with Andy KindlerWe sit down with beloved comedian and all around rascal Andy Kindler to discuss being jewish, boiler rooms, OCD, growing up in Queens, acid, what's up David Mamet's ass?, Bill Maher sucks, George Lopez or Paul Rodriguez? Don't ask Jay Leno, nudging the Sklar Bros, Pylon, being a musician and petty trolls.X:@AndyKindlerInsta:@andykindlersuperstarThought Spiral PodcastWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammal...
2024-07-311h 02
What We Thought Would Happen"Judy Enters Screaming" with Judy GoldWe sit down with beloved comic, Judy Gold to discuss getting passed in the 80's, crowd work, writing on Better Things and the Rosie O'Donnell show, Joan Rivers' Vine videos, kids helping Judy come out of the closet, Phyllis Diller, Dave Attell, single women sitcoms and "Outstanding: A Comedy Revolution" on NetflixX:@jewdygoldInstagram:@jewdygoldTikTok@jewdygoldWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta...
2024-07-181h 03
What We Thought Would Happen"Give me the strength..." with Jonathan KatzWe sit down with the legendary Jonathan Katz to discuss table tennis, Boston, This Heart is Closed for Alterations, David Mamet, Robin Williams, being a musician, living with M.S., "Raising Dad" with Bob Saget, Ronnie Shakes, Rita Rudner, Eve Arden Award for Broadcasting and the impact of Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist.Website:jonathankatz.comWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta: @thejimmyharryWeb: jimmy harry.com
2024-07-0541 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Inner Growth Hormone" with James FritzWe sit down with comedian James Fritz to discuss working as a Teacher's Assistant, moonshine, starting stand up in Chicago, escaping Kentucky, scrambled porn, everything sucks, 90's Fox Prime Time Comedy shows, Bill Hicks, pre-compromising, not needing a day job, out of touch comedians, Strangers with Candy, dad's loving black television shows, the 2000 election heist and the Clinton we destroyed.X:@fritzisdeadInstagram:@fritzisdeadWebsite:jamesfritzcomic.comWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comM...
2024-06-2658 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Munch and Midler" with Kara KlenkStand up, writer, actor, fellow podcaster and our dear friend, Kara Klenk joins us to discuss murder, Connecticut pimps, them Hargitay kids, Virgos=Serial Killers, married stand up duo, "That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast", secret smoking, Fox News Alumni, teaching english in Italy, The Ice Storm, smoking weed with Fin & Munch, Kara's uncle Tony Hendra, Bob Saget, being a Page at NBC, Bette Midler: Beaches & bum outs, Matt Lauer's free wine and translating for Al Roker, living across the street from Christopher Walken and Kara's Dateline episode.Website:karaklenk.comWWTWH YouTube Ch...
2024-06-121h 09
What We Thought Would Happen"One Bathroom, Three Generations" with Laurie KilmartinWe sit down with writer and comedian Laurie Kilmartin to discuss senior living goals, local government at work, exes ruining albums, Suzanne Somers, Castor Oil, 100 Tampons for Sally Ride, writing on Conan for 11 years, meeting Chrissy Hynde, don't f*ck with the upstairs person, Daniel's puppy Lamy, Kennedy Lobotomies, working in a call center, Planet Claire not getting what it deserved, crying on planes, Laurie's mother passing during COVID, The Pickton Pig Farm Murders, the luxury of a travel blender and Laurie's Special: "Cis Woke Grief Slut"Website:lauriekilmartin.comWWTWH YouTube Channel
2024-06-041h 09
What We Thought Would Happen"Great Expekashians" with Jackie KashianWe sit down with comedian Jackie Kashian to discuss Jackie's tumultuous upbringing in Wisconsin, losing her mother in a motorcycle accident, from the pew to the pool cue, The Dork Forest Podcast, therapy, White Guilt or Empathy and heckling Sam Kinison.X:@jackiekashianInstagram:@jackiekashianWebsite: jackiekashian.comWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta: @thejimmyharryWeb: jimmy harry.com
2024-05-151h 04
What We Thought Would Happen"You Wanna Know How I Got These Sklars?" with Randy & Jason SklarWe sit down with comedians, Randy and Jason Sklar to discuss, vax-ectomies, starting stand up at 15, the kismetic force that is Andy Kindler, "Give me the ball", Tag-It, animal psychics, Stephen Tobolowsky, conjoined pay, Heidi Klum's final solution and Katherine Heigl losing her shit on the set of Grey's Anatomy.www.supersklars.comWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta: @thejimmyharryWeb: jimmy harry.com
2024-05-061h 19
What We Thought Would Happen"And Now Tomorrow!" with Ron LynchWe sit down with actor, comedian and host of the "Tomorrow Show!" Ron Lynch. We discuss Ron helping Laura get her start in Boston, 20 years of Tomorrow!, unsolicited tags, speleology, comedy competitions, touch down Jesus, too many tapes, clowning, game shows, Paul Reubens and Ron's secretsInstagram:@tomorrowwithronlynchWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammalInsta: @thejimmyharryWeb: jimmy harry.com
2024-04-2950 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Dance with my Bones" with Scott ThompsonWe sit down with actor, comedian, writer and our first Kid in the Hall, Scott Thompson to discuss "King", the trials and tribulations of the Kids in the Hall on Amazon, wanting to be an interesting talk show guest, Brain Candy, success being as devastating as failure, the Brampton School shooting and Dance with my Bones.Website:newscottlandland.comX:@ScottThompson_Insta:@scottthompsoncomedyWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy Harry
2024-04-151h 03
What We Thought Would Happen"Kansas City Amputations" with Erin FoleyWe sit down with beloved comic, tv writer and stand up coach, Erin Foley. We discuss stand up coaching, sitcom writing, the odyssey of lesbian love, being a twin, death from above, the royals, "Cruel Jaws", you're not a Claire, an ashtray full of pills, anti-depressant spoiler, the Barker Beauties, frozen shoulder and Kansas City Amputations.Website:erinkfoley.comInstagram:@erinkfoleyX:@erinfoleycomicWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:...
2024-04-0355 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Queen's of the Moon" with Amy MillerWe sit down with our good friend, comedian Amy Miller to discuss getting passed at The Comedy Store, meeting Dolly Parton, Amy's boyfriend's "Great Ass!", Queen's of the Moon, crashing Hawaiian resort chairs, indifference, a stranger's finger in your food, Roseanne, we're all Darlene, Lucille Ball's 'Cross Up', Amy's time on The Last Comic Standing, Loretta Lynn's shitty art work, Morrisey's a dick, meeting your heroes and being kind to fans, Amy's Tour dates and the smell of glue.Insta:@amymillercomedyWebsite:amymillercomedy.comWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura...
2024-03-2558 min
What We Thought Would HappenAbortion Access Front with Lizz WinsteadA comic’s comic, writer, activist who actually acts on behalf of women and has taken an anti-abortion protester’s rusty nail to the thigh for you and me, the pride of Minnesota, our good friend Lizz Winstead joins us today on What We Thought Would Happen.X:@lizzwinsteadInsta:@lizzwinsteadWebsite:Abortion Access FrontDocumentary:"No One Asked You"Book:Lizz Free or Die: EssaysWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.com...
2024-03-1659 min
What We Thought Would Happen"About as fem as it gets" with Audrey StewartWe sit down with limitlessly funny comedian, writer and actress Audrey Stewart to discuss Audrey's uncanny ability to interact with a rowdy crowd, when your family shows up to watch your set, hot yoga and weed, dying while listening to Skrillex, Kaboodles, straight relationships, the gay spectrum, improv to stand up, WeHo Halloween, psycho Aspen volunteer firefighter and just making out instead of hitting each other.TikTok:@audreystewisartInsta:@audreystewisartX:@audreystewisartWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlives...
2024-03-0857 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Just Another Cocky Irish Puke" with Greg FitzsimmonsHe’s so funny you almost forget he’s Irish, loyal friend and legend - Greg Fitzsimmons sits down with Laura and Daniel to discuss the inherent dumbness of certain audiences, encountering your childhood bully in middle age, bad advice from comedy bookers, Laura and Greg's first encounter, the incomparable southie charm of Mary Fitzgerald, Dave Attell, The Clarke brothers, getting paid in baseball cards, Testosterone, who needs a boner these days, Greg's Podcast empire, the Family Circus Dynasty, Greg's new special, P-Funk, Emo Phillips and Greg and Laura bombing in Australia.X:@GregFitzShowInsta:...
2024-02-291h 00
What We Thought Would Happen"Gill on Gussets & Galaxies" with Caitlin GillBrighter than Vega, as necessary as the dark sky, science communicator and crotch gusset enthusiast, Caitlin Gill joins Daniel and Laura to ruminate on the Horseshoe Theory, fenced compounds, Pluto, Uranus, star leftovers, Angelica Houston, the way you pronounce “antennae” says a lot about your identity, Angela Lansbury, Daniel’s puberty greets the apex of his mother’s menopause and Caitlin answers a ten-year-old astronomer’s question: Why are we here?X:@ROBOTCAITLINInsta:@caitlinistallSky Watcher Star ToursCaitlin's album, "Major"WWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura Ki...
2024-02-221h 12
What We Thought Would Happen"Reclining nude on La Cienega" with Jann KaramWe sit down with the hilarious and lovely, Jann Karam to discuss her multiple appearances on The Tonight Show and David Letterman, starting comedy in Arizona, Catch a Rising Star, David Spade stealing Jann's material, Jann's one woman show, painting, rescuing cats, the current stand up special swamp, never doing your side work and obtaining from crowd work, f**k middle management and being surrounded by good friends.X:@JannKaramInsta:jannkaramcomedianWebsite:jannkaram.comYouTube:@JannKaramComedian"RECLINING NUDE on LA CIENEGA"WWTWH YouTube...
2024-02-1659 min
What We Thought Would Happen"Danke's Inferno" with Paul DankeWe sat down on a perfect rainy day with comedian, actor, arsonist and our close friend, Paul Danke. We discuss tasting Fontana's air, the thrill of a disaster, the ring of fire, end time prophets, teaching your children about the dangers of meritocacy, Paul's new album on a Special Thing records, Blam! Blam! Blam!, highschool sketch programs, News Kids, Juggle Social Clubs, Bill Clinton copping a feel on Laura, Alanis Morissette: "Am I this woman?", lighting a stage on fire and apologizing through the gift of song.Twitter:@pauldankeInstagram:@pauldanke...
2024-02-081h 05
What We Thought Would Happen"When Mel Brooks yells at you" with Dana GouldWe proudly welcome a great friend who happens to be the funniest man and ape on this burning planet. Please give a What We Thought Would Happen welcome to the one and only DANA GOULD! We discuss Dana and Laura's long term friendship and coming up in Boston, Gilbert Gottfried needs another cunt joke, Dwight Fry, Mel Brooks, the balls on Leslie Nielsen, "A Night on Java Island", the genius of Albert Brooks, Barney Miller, writing on The Simpson's, Drake Sather, Maila Nurmi aka Vampira and Hanging with Dr. Z.Insta:@danagouldWebsite:
2024-01-311h 05
What We Thought Would Happen"Who's gonna beat this out of you?" with Francisco RamosLaura and Daniel sit down with actor and comedian, Francisco Ramos. We discuss growing up Venezuelan in D.C., going from finance to comedy, becoming a paid Comedy Store regular, improv, comedy cruise ship disasters, staying humble, The Unexpecteds, equal pay for comics and his upcoming special, "Venezuelamerican"Insta:@framoscomedyWebsite:franciscoeramos.comYouTube:@FramoscomedyTikTok:@framoscomedyX:@FranciscoRamosWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy Harry
2024-01-221h 00What We Thought Would Happen"Grandpa Richter's Bee-Stung Penis" with Andy RichterWe sit down with actor, comedian and writer, Andy Richter. We discuss mundane dreams about chairs, mysterious family deaths, tall poppy syndrome, Del Close, "Can't we call her something else?", the real Brady Brunch, Cabin Boy, women over 40, choosing between becoming a movie theater manager or talk show co-host, Amy Sedaris' wicker wheelchair, directing commercials, being starstruck and the death of talk shows.Insta:@richtercommaandyThe Three Questions PodcastWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.com...
2024-01-171h 08What We Thought Would HappenHis & Hearse with Jon Kinnally & Chris YoungDaniel and Laura welcome Jon Kinnally and Chris Young to drink about Blondie’s narrow escape on Houston Street, The Green Witch Guide, Daniel’s coffin etiquette, The Hollywood Forever Cemetery, Paul Rudd reads, the comedic brilliance of Christina Applegate, Wake Up Ron Burgundy, the Craigslist Killer, John Wayne’s intestines, NADS, AYDS, Maskiss Gold eye masks, Mae West, Ted Bundy b.o.,pharaohs, Will&Grace&Madonna, The Lost Weekend, Cher, The mysterious beauty of Ray Wise, Twin Peaks and Jon Kinnally’s tour deforce scene in the Mary Kay Place directed episode of The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman...
2024-01-081h 03What We Thought Would HappenSpitting teeth at Conan O'Brien - with Eddie PepitoneTammy Jo Dearen (sitting in for Daniel) and I sit down with comedian Eddie Pepitone. We discuss our Vaudeville days, Dorito's Vodka, the ICP Healthcare plan, operatic rage-aholics, the death of Comedy Central, uncle porn, Dennis Leary dating dopplegangers, losing a tooth on live television, Elton John's low effort song repackaging, defensive postures, stealing vegan valor and roving clans of GMO vegetables. Website:eddiepepitone.comX:@eddiepepitoneInstagram:@eddiepepWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.com
2024-01-0256 minWhat We Thought Would Happen"Turn that man off" with Kimberly ClarkWe sit down with Kimberly Clark who is one of the sweetest, funniest and most original comics out there. We discuss preferring t.v. to snow, the slutty spectrum of newscasters, shaking down Walter Cronkite for the truth about the JFK assassination, being a CBS Page on The Price is Right and the Drew Carey show, stand up clubs in malls, "Blow Branford, Blow!", meeting Paul Mooney, watching Rodney Dangerfield perform in a bath robe, the importance of personal space and the anxiety attack before the anxiety attack.X:@ClarkKimberlyLInsta:@kimberlyclarkcomedyWebsite:
2023-12-261h 00What We Thought Would Happen"I can't sanction that buffoonery" with Max BeasleyLaura and Daniel chat with the wonderfully clever comic and filmmaker, Max Beasley. They discuss swinger iconography, Lorena Bobbit: girl-boss, kink test results, touching that tonight show money, Woody Allen's Children's Hospital/2nd wife pipeline, checking vax cards at the Ripley's Believe it or Not museum, filmmaking inspirations and Oscar wars.X:@maxbeasleyyyInsta:@maxbeasleyyTik Tok:@maxbeasleyyWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy HarryTwitter: @bonsaimammal
2023-12-1859 minWhat We Thought Would HappenBanya Beatings w/ Kira SoltanovichLaura and Daniel chat with the beautiful and hilarious, Kira Soltanovich. They discuss the dark nature of Russian Fairy Tales, the indomitable Rasputinic like nature of Kira's mother, Babushka's last beep, withstanding Joan Rivers, growing up in San Francisco, sneaking into stand up shows at 15, worst sets and Russian spas.X:@kiracomedyInsta:@kiracomedyWebsite:kiracomedy.comBREAKING BREAD WITH TOM PAPAWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlivesWeb: laurakightlinger.comMUSIC:Jimmy Harry
2023-12-121h 00What We Thought Would HappenA Monkey for the Front w/ Dave PunchLaura and Garrett (sitting in for Daniel) chat with the funniest writer they know and co-creator The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman, Dave Punch. They discuss, doing a little bit better than the losers in high school, knee capping young girls, "your hole is full of stories", Treat Williams chokehold, Floor 44, Laura and Dave's writing process, Mary Kay Place, Orson Bean, Paul Dooley, Ray Wise, Lee Majors, fan mail from prison, the Big Star of basic cable and getting kicked in the nuts.The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman streaming on AmazonWWTWH YouTube Channel
2023-12-0449 minWhat We Thought Would HappenCleaning the Fan Before Finals w/ Jamie BridgersLaura and Daniel chat with comedian, real estate agent and mother of Phoebe, Jamie Bridgers. They discuss, Pugs, salt peter, Ed Asner reading bedtime stories at the roller derby, celebrity sweat offerings, postpartum vampire analogies, the gray areas of maritime law, not enjoying music like a man would, letting satan in, Buck Owens & Dwight Yoakam, bombing in Pioneertown & Saint Beth Lapides of the UnCabaret.X:@jamielbridgersInsta:@nonajamesBuy Tickets to Jamie's next showWWTWH YouTube ChannelLaura KightlingerTwitter: @KingKightlingerInsta: @laurakightlingerlives...
2023-11-2759 min