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West of WonderlandFresh Essence, Shadow and RestIt's the shadow season time of year, people! Bay and Laura discuss all things dark season, like Adult Sleep Training, Ghost Jokes and more. Bay has distilled a fresh Essence for Laura, and they break down this foundational ontological concept for West of Wonderland listeners. Follow West of Wonderland Podcast for more Adult Sleep Training tips that do and don't work! PS. Bay reads The Egg by Andy Weir.
2025-11-1953 minWest of WonderlandBay Quiney and the Cursèd ChildWhat happens when Laura and Bay take a working stay-cation after Falling Inn? A deluge of magical things, of course! Bay sees her first-ever show on Broadway in the most magical fashion, and Laura cries her eyes out for three hours in Orchestra Row A eating free chocolate frogs. 10/10. Want to get on the list for our future retreats? https://westofwonderlandconsulting.com/wow-retreats/
2025-11-0537 minWest of WonderlandA Bad Bet!Bay and Laura are 3 days away from Falling Inn! What are the woodland creatures up to where YOU are right now? What are some things you've done that you're proud of, but also sad about, and why? It's hard to be wholeheartedly excited about anything due to capitalism right now. Laura and Bay draw some lines and discuss how right they are about what the Disney Company should be doing!
2025-10-2241 minWest of WonderlandLaura and The Band, AgainHow many Velocicoaster mugs do you have? Did you know that Self Care Is Pretty™ and Your Feelings Make Sense™? Laura shares more with Bay about the evolution of her band and the stuff it's churning up, but in a positive way™. Still no band name, and still one space open at Falling Inn!
2025-10-1533 minWest of Wonderland"I Want More" - Collections, Obsessions & Addictions (Part 3) & Change!Just a liiiiil more follow-up from Laura about the Elizabeth Gilbert memoir, and West of Wonderland continues its journey into obsessions, addictions and collections, just like Ariel in her grotto. Bay and Laura connect over their shared experience of recent change. Change is hard for everyone, but how are YOU when you hit the need for change in your relationships, and the things your relationships affect? P.S. Falling Inn is one month away!
2025-09-2437 minWest of Wonderland"I Want More" - Collections, Obsessions & Addictions (Part 2)Part Two of Laura and Bay's discussion about obsessions, collections and addictions, and all the crossroads between these complex topics. Laura works through just what doesn't sit well with her about Elizabeth Gilbert's latest memoir, and they explore the terrain of Essence-based versus Survival Mechanism-based collecting and such.
2025-09-1747 minWest of WonderlandThe Big Work — It Calls Me with Cassandra McFaddenWest of Wonderland has a resident Moana - do you? Bay and Laura welcome friend-of-the-podcast Cass McFadden on today's episode. They discuss all the things, like self-walking cats, martyrdom and of course, courage. Cass has a fascinating history and an infinitely curious nature, so of course there's a lot to talk about! She's been partnering with Bay and Laura to bring coaching to women leaders in sustainability! Learn how Cass is charting a course across the globe for ESG change. Together, she, Bay, and Laura unpack what it means to coach and care for women committed to saving the...
2025-08-2057 minWest of WonderlandLaura & The BandExcitement, anticipation, fear, nerves, adrenaline. What did Laura get up to this past weekend? Oh, was it walking in one of her dearest held dreams? Yes. Yes it was. Bay and Laura discuss the high points and the vulnerable aftershocks of Laura's performance with her band at the 2025 Rosendale Street Festival in Rosendale, NY. P.S. Falling Inn Vermont Retreat: https://wonderlandandcompany.com/fall-retreat
2025-08-0646 minWest of WonderlandIntroducing Bay Rachelle LeBlanc Quiney, MBA 🌟MCC 🌟What's the cadence of vacation for you - highs, lows and envy? Bay and Laura debrief a recent, REALLY BIG milestone that Bay has accomplished: becoming a Master Certified Coach (MCC) through the International Coach Federation (ICF)! In true West of Wonderland fashion, they're not just discussing the achievement, but the whole ecosystem of achieving it. Laura and Bay also share about the process of professional coach credentialing. Congratulations, Bay! The whole West of Wonderland community is so proud of you! PS. Retreat Waitlist: http://bit.ly/46Jkl5F
2025-07-2330 minWest of WonderlandTheme Park Maps for . . . Your Business - 1 Year Later!A year after Laura's "Theme Park Map For Your Busienss" idea spawned tons of possibility and the most epic workshop ever, Laura and Bay revisit the concept. What's evolved? What are they seeing differently? How is this concept helping them adapt to the ever-changing industry of coaching? If you'd like to purchase the original workshop, check out the WoW Academy Recorded Sessions here: https://www.laurawestman.com/wow-academy
2025-07-0247 minWest of WonderlandSpiritual Gas StationWest of Wonderland have been working soooo hard lately, so they're going to take this week's episode to be ridiculous. Friend-of-the-podcast Jason Frazell has supplied Laura with a ChatGPT that has mansplained Disney Adults to her. Bay and Laura discuss and reenroll themselves in why they love what they love (hint: it's VelociCoaster and Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure ™). How long can YOU talk about your favorite ride?
2025-05-211h 11West of WonderlandCanadian ElectionsHow much do you know about Candian elections and government? Laura interrogates Bay about the Canadian electoral system, as Canada is in the midst of an election. What info is new to you around Canada, does anything surprise you the way it surprised Laura?! (P.S. Join us for our live recording of episode 200! https://www.laurawestman.com/wow-live )
2025-05-0746 minWest of Wonderland🌿 You're Invited: Sustain-Ability on May 6, 2025 🌿What good is a podcast episode without a couple of side quests regarding camping?Get the scoop on Bay and Laura's upcoming event, Sustain-Ability! This is a bespoke online workshop designed specifically for women who work in sustainability, environment/social governance, and climate. It's free to attend, but you must save a spot. Come connect with others and dig into the Three Domains of Leadership to get you grounded, inspired and sustained. Register here or share with a friend! https://wonderlandandcompany.com/sustainability/ PS. Where are you with camping? Do you still like us even if we don't like ca...
2025-04-0936 minWest of WonderlandLaura's Big NewsHow awkward are YOU when you have big news to share and don't want to bring it up even though it's the theme of today's podcast (hem hem, Laura)? Bay and Laura take a personal journey through Laura's big milestone. Here's the link to find and save: https://bit.ly/4i1A0jH
2025-03-051h 09West of WonderlandRest In Peace Mike RinderHow would YOU explain the differences between taupe, beige and mauve? Inquiring minds want to know. Laura and Bay spend time in this episode honoring Mike Rinder, who passed away on January 5, 2025. Mike Rinder was a top Scientology official who famously defected and dedicated the rest of his life to building a different legacy and working to dismantle the harm done by Scientology. Laura and Bay also discuss the origins of Scientology, ontology and their favorite word that starts with E, Ethics.
2025-01-2953 minWest of WonderlandThe Theme Park AngelWelcome to the new year—are YOU obsessing over goals, planners and trying to stay grounded after the holidays, or is that just Bay and Laura? This week, join our heroes as they share about a West of Wonderland bestie from Orlando, Angel Sanchez of Wanderlust Photography, who shares her joy like no other. Laura and Bay revel in her magic and share all about how to follow her! Instagram @theverybusybee
2025-01-0831 minWest of WonderlandSymphony of Snores✨Join us for this year's New Years Gathering, A Meeting with Dumbledore: https://www.laurawestman.com/new-years-gathering ✨Are you a liability in your dreams?? Are you a hard dreamer or something else? Bay and Laura chat about relationship to dreams and the dream realm. Watch out for Bay's ghost story. For more conversation from Laura about dreaming, check out her recent YouTube convo with Chelsea Cotton here: https://bit.ly/49oF6mE
2024-12-1126 minWest of WonderlandSomewhere in the Loch✨Join us for this year's New Years Gathering, A Meeting with Dumbledore: https://www.laurawestman.com/new-years-gathering ✨ In this episode of West of Wonderland, Laura and Bay debrief Loch Ness Monstering and being creatures with strangely functioning thyroids. Bay processes autoimmune news and Laura reflects on the journey with hers. PS. The original recording time was 44:44, say whaaaaat! PPS. The podcast Laura discusses is called Monsters Weekly and as of recording this, hasn't aired just yet! PPPS. Where does your glee come through?
2024-12-0441 minWest of Wonderland"In A Dance Way"Content Warning: Politics, Loss of Parent. ✨ As the dust continues to get kicked up following the US election, Bay and Laura take some time to discuss their support for and solidarity with anyone who is impacted by it — in the future through policy, or in the present due to no longer feeling personal safety. Laura and Bay discuss the ethical practices and boundaries they set in their professional lives when it comes to things like voting, and shed light on white privilege in the coaching community. They also want to say (a) sorry this episode wasn't lighter, but, I mean...
2024-11-2041 minWest of WonderlandWhat is Home?Since it's autumn, Bay and Laura turn inward to talk about all the *exciting intricacies of survival mechanism* in the most intimate of spaces: home. Breakthrough work is intimate, and doing it in the home is the most intimate of all - both the physical components of the home, and the intimate components of the self. Laura debriefs changes from Marshmallow Dream year. How do we grow boundaries in places that we love -- not just in places that we want to protect ourselves from?
2024-10-2346 minWest of WonderlandCosy Invitations from Bay and LauraWho do YOU "be" when people call you obsessively who shouldn't be? Bay and Laura debrief some cool and silly stories — plenty of opportunities to lol about survival mechanisms today on West of Wonderland! Where are you laughing about your survival mechanism this fall? What are you up to next Thursday, are you coming to the West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching? And are you coming to our magical online wintering retreat in November?! www.laurawestman.com/wow-academy
2024-10-1655 minWest of WonderlandFencepost of JudgmentOkay, if you had paid a zillion dollars and waited over a decade for a membership to something, and then you behaved badly and got kicked out of it, how would you be being about it?! Bay and Laura debrief a VERY IMPORTANT Disney fan news item surrounding the illustrious Club 33, the not-so-secret secret club at Disneyland Park. Where do you sit on Fenceposts of Judgment? And what other wishes would you have for the WISH movie? Bay and Laura wanna know everything.
2024-10-0223 minWest of WonderlandChurros On DemandWhat would you choose if you were designing the snacks in your own theme park? What would be in, what would be out? Bay and Laura swear this is relevant, as they debrief August's West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching session! The Theme Park Map of Your Business was POWERFUL and Laura is reeling from how much her idea provided. Bay and Laura co-acknowledge and celebrate the beauty of the partnership they've created together! How often do you get to hear two business partners ideate together? Someone send these ladies to Disney World!
2024-09-0421 minWest of WonderlandTheme Park Maps for . . . Your Business 👀Bay and Laura debrief birthday week with all its highs and lows, and dish on the upcoming West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching workshop. Laura is genuinely frightened by her own idea, so it's probably gonna be good. www.laurawestman.com/wow-academy for registration info! PS. EPCOT black forest cake, missing Disney World and preparations for WoW's upcoming sustainability client. Leo season continues!
2024-08-1435 minWest of WonderlandWhen a Fantasy Might Actually Come True If you lived in a treehouse, which treehouse would you model it after? Bay and Laura debrief Laura's Breaking the Dam workshop and dive into such crazy topics as how to create an authentic-to-you-offer, and Laura's most recent VERY INTENSE daydream/fantasizing that actually could become a thing. How would YOU react if a fantasy was actually coming true? PS. HOW MANY water analogies can they pack into one episode??
2024-07-1746 min2024-07-1039 min2024-07-0333 min2024-06-1247 min2024-05-2932 minWest of WonderlandTiana, Taylor, Grief and Feeling Everything You're hot and you're cold, you're yes and you're no!!!! No, it's not a conversation about Katy Perry, fooled ya, it's about Taylor Swift! But it's also about being a fan, a global citizen, and all other kinds of things. Let's be honest though, Bay and Laura love being a fan — and so do you. Ps. What's true about stuff, and how true is it? When is Tiana's Bayou Adventure opening and how much fun are you gonna have riding it? Do Bay and Laura have any fans other than each other?
2024-05-2234 min2024-05-1541 minWest of WonderlandBirthing New Magic Have you ever wanted to listen to two people discuss LOST, Once Upon a Time, and Game of Thrones? Well, then this episode is for you. When does TV peril hit too close to home? Laura shares that she had family members on Pan Am 7, a flight that went down over the Pacific in 1957. Bay and Laura take a trip down TV memory lane, and then discuss Laura's new developments: Hartford Improv Festival, Uncover Your Creative Magic being ready for the world, and Meaghan Wagner's new offering! Uncover Your Creative Magic is here: www.laurawestman.com/uncover and Practical M...
2024-05-0152 minWest of WonderlandAlmost There Again In today's episode, Bay and Laura discuss not needing to "nice it up" for their shared project darling (the podcast you're listening to) and discuss Laura's current Almost There. What do boundaries mean to you, and what do they have to do with theme park dreams? Do you have settings you visit often in your dreams? What's a tough-time survival kit for you— physically, emotionally, imaginatively? Related but not related, what even is time and how the heck do we Time?
2024-04-2436 minWest of WonderlandMarshmallows & Maman Content Advisory: Bay's mother has passed away, and she and Laura are being with it in this episode, the wonder of Bay's maman, the chasm of loss, the traipsing through Disneyland together, the possibilities Bay's mother never let go of. What kinds of things give you a respite from grieving when you're in a season of grief? Bay and Laura discuss new marshmallow developments, what might be coming to the land expansions at Walt Disney World, and why Asha from WISH reminds Laura of Bay. Like... a lot. PS. Which foods have a flavor that is distinctly just a...
2024-04-1752 min2024-04-0350 min2024-03-2745 minWest of WonderlandWinning the Lottery & more about the West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching 🌟How often do you experience unrequited hope on a warm spring day? What would you do if you won the lottery? No, but really - Bay and Laura want to know. Tune in to find out why they think this question matters. PS. See you March 28 for the first Academy for Magical Coaching training, "Exploring Wishes for Client Impact"! Get on our list and receive the ever so fancy WoW Daily Planner when you do: https://www.laurawestman.com/wow-academy
2024-03-2035 minWest of WonderlandAnnouncing West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching 🌟 What is the weirdest possible way YOU could be when you announce something that you're super excited about? Laura and Bay give the scoop about their first official training offering for coaches: West of Wonderland Academy for Magical Coaching. Drop in once a month for training sessions on distinctions, practical applications and new frameworks based on - what else? - magic in coaching. Learn how to link your imaginative, magical thinking with a real plan they can fulfill on - and to help your coaching clients do the same. Check out the whole calendar and register for an upcoming...
2024-03-1334 minWest of WonderlandOrbits of Desire Excuse me, but what is your dream cat? Are you embarrassed sometimes by the extent of your desire, love and appreciation for things you love? If so, this episode is for you. Bay and Laura explore when desire can become motivating sustenance for your journey, instead of just fleeting rocket-fuel. How can it work for us? What are YOUR orbits of desire? What is fairweather desire? Are we riling up the Vatican? PS. Disney Adults forever 🥹
2024-03-0630 min2024-02-2833 minWest of WonderlandHow and Why Laura Met Daniel Radcliffe That's it. That's the episode: how and why Laura met Daniel Radcliffe.
2024-02-2134 min2024-02-1439 minWest of WonderlandAll About ✨Rewards✨ Hello, are you a toaster? West of Wonderland is due for a chat about rewards! Project Design, a coaching industry tool to provide structures for achieving even the gnarliest of goals, has a pretty special component - rewards. What are they? Why reward yourself when you could punish yourself? What are rewards to adults? What do they have to do with goal achievement? Often, the more something matters to us, the more "stuff" is going to be in the way of achieving it. It is a cardinal law of being a person. Which nouns and gerunds will be selected...
2024-02-0748 min2024-01-3121 minWest of WonderlandEvolving Partnership - The Voice and Brand of West of Wonderland Over 4 Years! How about a lil partnership chit chat? Listen in on a super unique conversation between Bay and Laura as they reflect on the evolution of the West of Wonderland voice, brand and partnership over four years of running their New Years Eve Workshop. Where did it start? How did this year's workshop reflect how they've grown? How many times can they name-drop Dr. Lauren Borden on this podcast before you all stop listening? How can everyone use their powers for good in the worst place ever: Facebook comments? Also, do ya wanna go to Disney World?
2024-01-2431 minWest of WonderlandTo Planner, or Not to Planner? That is the question! Whether 'tis nobler . . . . yada, yada, yada. Bay and Laura have no need to sound noble on this episode as West of Wonderland has a candid conversation about planners - what works, what doesn't? What would be helpful to you when selecting your personal organizational tools? What helps you stay consistent? What would God's auto-responder sound like? When is sometimes better than never (hint: always)? PS. NorthStudio's ADHD Adulting Planner is here: https://northstudio.design/products/adulting-adhd-planner
2024-01-1734 minWest of WonderlandGetting Real: Morning Routine Edition New visions require new structures - sometimes that's your morning routine. What kinds of embarrassing things have YOU done instead of your routines? Where do we get into Fantasyland (in a bad way) about routines such that we cannot possibly fulfill and let them do their job? Who else goes into their phone instead of their life?!!?!?!?!!? Bay and Laura discuss ways to think about your routines so that they're actually helpful and not lowkey harmful.
2024-01-1036 min2024-01-0329 minWest of WonderlandYou're Invited: The 4th Annual West of Wonderland New Years Extravaganza Students out of bed!! Join Bay and Laura for the most magical New Years celebration of all - for the 4th year in a row! December 31st, from 1-3pm EST on Zoom, join your Hogwarts classmates for a magic-themed visioning exercise to kick off the new year. Bonus points if you can find your dress robes or bring your owl. Registration is free: https://bit.ly/3GVkJjt
2023-12-2808 minWest of Wonderland"Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God" It's Novembery, so it's time to discuss.... seasonal decor again. Welcome to the annual discussion about how AWESTRUCK Bay and Laura can get about how Disney Parks decorate for the holidays! What's new in the animal kingdom (of our homes)? How many microphones does it take to capture Grimby's snore?
2023-12-271h 132023-12-2043 min2023-12-1340 minWest of WonderlandSick Rules It's December! Let's get ontological about a terrible part of the winter: illness. What are YOUR rules about getting sick? Isn't it so fun to have to navigate personal, family and societal narratives about sickness? It's simply the best. Bay and Laura love it. PS. Laura's got a special offering open from December 7-11 and now you know about it! PPS. What's the grossest thing that's ever happened to you while you're sick?
2023-12-0633 minWest of WonderlandTricky People - And More! Following up from last week's episode about Prince Hans of the Southern Isles, Bay and Laura have some interesting parenting tips to share! Join in for this West of Wonderlandy debrief of the concept of TRICKY PEOPLE . . . along with a glorious multitude of stories, reminiscences, and potentially a bit of post-covid delirium from Laura. Who's all emotional as Velocicoaster Year comes to a close? PS. Who is King Mucus, after all?
2023-11-2954 minWest of WonderlandOntological Villain Analysis #2 Who is the most charming Trojan Horse you've ever seen in a movie? In this ontological shake-down of another Disney movie villain, Bay and Laura get altitude on villainy in Arendelle. Outside of "good" and "bad," what are the crystallized qualities of one prince of the Southern Isles. PS. Someone's survival mechanism comes from somewhere!
2023-11-2322 minWest of WonderlandWands Up Where were YOU in life when the Charlie's Angels movie came out? Bay and Laura digest recent conversations with BFF Dr. Lauren Borden and the information they've learned about their Human Design profiles. It's weird and it's amazing and it's insane to have this much stuff resonate about how you operate in life, isn't it?! West of Wonderland also pays tribute to legandary actor Michael Gambon, who many of us know and love because of his becoming Dumbledore after the passing of Richard Harris. Dearest Mr. Gambon, thank you and we love you. Yes, Laura absolutely was in denial...
2023-10-1139 minWest of WonderlandAugust, Appreciation & Ancestors Welcome to the *most* Laura's-core-values episode yet here on West of Wonderland. Bay and Laura take up the mantle of Laura's core value of Appreciation and walk through August experiences through that lens. Speaking your truth, creating and appreciating powerful friendships, feeling seen in relationships, intentional parenthood, the magic of fandom, the rapture of music, sheer presence... and more. PS. But again, how many Mickey ear hats **can** a person own? PPS. Why **are** mosquitos still around?
2023-08-3046 minWest of WonderlandBet They Don't Reprimand Their Daughters!It's an 8-8 birthday bonanza, as West of Wonderland celebrates its second birthday - and Bay and Laura also have birthdays, all on the same day. What a time! Two Leos and their Leo creation come together for this week's episode, which is mostly about The Little Mermaid (finally!). What did Bay and Laura totally adore about this new retelling (and what did they not)? Why is Eric *the* Hufflepuff Prince and why did we need him so badly?!?!!? PS. Lin....we have questions.
2023-08-0945 minWest of WonderlandHuman Design Part One featuring Dr. Lauren Borden, Orange Bird, and Rocket the Cat Bay and Laura indoctrinate Lauren Borden, MA, PhD, PCC into West of Wonderland on this giggle-fueled episode - WoW's first ever podcast guest who literally reminds Bay and Lauren of a Disney princess. This episode is about Human Design - what is it?! How to use it/not use it - but it's also about introducing Lauren to Disney Parks things like Orange Bird and being very vulnerable about Human Design types, ways of creating, partnership, and integrating new awarenesses so that your life works better for all of your specific ways of creating. Get to know Lauren and...
2023-07-261h 06West of WonderlandWest of Wonderland and the Dial of DestinyWhat does it take to pluck something from your vision and stitch it into the fabric of your real life? Join Laura and Bay to find out as they discuss Indiana Jones, new business ventures, and allowing the dial of destiny to do its job. In this vunlerable episode, Laura and Bay discuss their different "flavors" of not-enoughness that arise in the face of meaningful opportunities. Also: who is the lowest form of plebe? Who are you going to call if you need stuff messed up? Which WoW member will embellish her resume with movie-enjoying skills?
2023-07-1248 minWest of WonderlandOne Hundred and OnethBay and Laura head into a dreamy space on this episode discussing new, innovative construction for a girls' school in India. How would you re-imagine how buildings interact with nature for the future? What does the Imaginative Leadership of sea creatures look like? Why did Peter Pan & Wendy destroy Laura? Who is West of Wonderland's favorite actor of all time? Also, what kinds of questions does the OceanGate submersible bring up for all of us with regard to leadership, let alone the news coverage of it and other fatal disasters? (Please note, this episode was recorded while officials were...
2023-07-0543 minWest of WonderlandYou've Been Co-Dreamed! What did Bay do in Laura's dream, and what did Laura do to annoy Bay so much in hers? Along those lines, have you ever been curious about the concept of spirit guides? West of Wonderland explains and explores the concept generally, and Laura shares specifically about which guides of hers seem to be clamoring to serve right now. Bonus Question: how many groundhogs currently live in Laura's yard?
2023-06-2146 minWest of WonderlandFailure is in the Eye of the BeholderAre you a dork, a geek, or are you just here to have a good time? Categorize yourself! Bay and Laura discuss all things tattoo, slug drama, and walking on eggshells. And, breaking Walt Disney World news from this month — Bay and Laura's hot take on the closing of the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser! What place does "failure" hold in the kingdom of an imaginative leader?
2023-05-3148 minWest of WonderlandWe Gotta Talk about JKRHold on to your broomsticks, because in this episode of West of Wonderland, Bay and Laura spend some time addressing everyone's least favorite part of the Wizarding World fandom, the controversy surrounding its author, J.K. Rowling, and the trans-exclusionary feminist politics she's been vocal about that have had tremendous consequences. Bay takes Laura through certain events as depicted by the podcast series, "The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling." Join them for a vulnerable, open-hearted, self-reflective and critical look at the leadership conversations available to us in this difficult topic. This episode includes an intro and epilogue recorded...
2023-05-1058 minWest of Wonderland"We'll Create Happiness."Laura's as obsessed with "Disney's Land" as Walt Disney himself was with Disneyland! Have you ever wondered what Ronald Reagan was up to on the opening day of Disneyland, or how Disneyland trained their first staff members? Explore the "pre-opening sea of confusion" with Bay and Laura as they discuss Walt Disney's creation of leadership on large and small levels, which goes on to define the brand and legacy of the Disney Company for years to come and completely change the game for vacations and parks forever. That run-on sentence brought to you by Laura and Bay's love of...
2023-04-1923 minWest of WonderlandLaura's Book Release & the Ups and Downs of Tangible CreativityHow can a book project "look different" on one person vs. another? Not all creative projects are created equal -- how could they be?! Everyone is a distinct creature with different styles, desires, and intentions! Laura and Bay celebrate and debrief the creation of Laura's first book, "How to Be Creative in the Age of Digital Noise," and discuss how deeply your emotional landscape can affect your creative process; how to understand and allow when your inner saboteur is working very hard to win and be right! Also: Grimby's sun sign, being a creature among creatures, and patterns of...
2023-02-1545 minWest of WonderlandA Bunch of Water Metaphors & A Space BusIt's February, and we find our heroes putting themselves in deep water and then fighting the currents! Laura and Bay reunite after a few weeks of ups, downs, and literal raging rapids. What does white water rafting have to do with breakthroughs? Why does Laura call 2023 her Velocicoaster year? What happens when we float around in ambiguity? Oh, and, conveniently, Splash Mountain has just closed for an overdue retheme in Walt Disney World - the water theme keeps on comin'! Let's go with the flow! PS. Have you ever dreamed in black and white?
2023-02-0845 minWest of Wonderland"Ouch!"When and how are apologies a leadership conversation? How would you address your family ouchies (or not) if you're on a global stage? You all know that Laura hates a hot topic, but West of Wonderland is here to bring the heat. Bay and Laura discuss some British Royal Family drama that makes them long for a good ol' Disney fantasy story about princesses and happily ever afters. What are the cross-sections between intentionality, reconciliation, impact, and privilege? For the record, none of Bay's friends introduced her to Prince Harry... JUST SAYING...
2023-01-2530 minWest of WonderlandToo Strong, Too ProudDid you get the memo about today's West of Wonderland uniform? On today's episode, Bay and Laura debrief even more incredible well-being support habits that were inspired by their time together in Disney World. With the right attitude, any theme park visit becomes the gift that keeps on giving forever. Laura and Bay also close the loop (get it?) on Laura's pre-trip roller coaster dreams, roller coaster learnings and breakthroughs; soul-filling exercise; and what have Bay's toes been up to since December?
2023-01-1123 minWest of WonderlandThe Gift of GivingWelcome to 2023 at West of Wonderland! Everything is on the table for discussion today, as Bay and Laura decompress from their Mirror of Erised workshop, Christmas experiences, annual New Year rituals, and more. What's it like to envision a future less about circumstances and more about who you're with and how you feel? Why is it awesome to revisit stories and be transformed by them as you age? What is the relationship between giving and receiving? How many times with Bay and Laura end up in theme parks together this year? January brings as many questions as it does...
2023-01-0438 minWest of WonderlandBeing With Disappointment Among FriendsTwo unattached adults walk into EPCOT... join Bay and Laura as they revisit key moments in their recent jaunt through Disney World, which include but are not limited to experiencing DISAPPOINTMENT for the first time in a friendship; hot tips for how to not wait a long time for big attractions; powerful contexts for vacation planning, and more. Don't forget that Bay and Laura *must* talk about the scale of enrollment among cast members, or it wouldn't be a proper trip debrief on West of Wonderland. PS. Get something you aren't standing up to eat. PPS. But not a...
2022-12-2835 minWest of WonderlandLaura's Confession ListToday's West of Wonderland episode was the one that got bumped due to the Bob Swap! So, please enjoy dropping in on Bay and Laura as they reflect on the end of November and look ahead to their trip to Orlando. Laura is trying to shop in Bay's closet and also get all of Bay's thoughts about a recent roller coaster related dream; empowering thoughts about powerful sportsmanship as it relates to leadership; Laura's confessions with regard to holiday decor... and more.
2022-12-141h 10West of WonderlandKid LogicWhy is it so funny to look back at your kid logic with adult glasses? Bay and Laura pick back up their discussion about Harry and Ron using the flying Ford Anglia, integrating a new story from Emily. What is your relationship to rules? Why are kid priorities so out of whack? This episode also includes reminiscences about Bay's ballet days, Laura embracing her true nature as a giggle monster, and a quick lil pl-imagining session about this year's New Years Workshop!
2022-12-0730 minWest of WonderlandDisenchanted with Reality (...TV)"Happily Ever After" is one of West of Wonderland's favorite fairy tale concepts to unpack. In this week's episode, Bay and Laura discuss the most recent season of Netflix's "Love Is Blind," a show that relies on myths and fantasies about love in order to operate. Join Laura and Bay for a shockingly high level discussion of reality television, fantasies we hold about relationships, and how myths can help or harm us when it comes to making huge life commitments (like marrying someone you've only known for two months, who you met on a reality TV show, in a...
2022-11-2353 minWest of WonderlandSeason of NoAwkward beginnings, awkward pl-imagining, awkward sickness, awkward boundaries... welcome to No-vember at West of Wonderland! Bay and Laura are a No to a lot of things in this gloriously awkward, pre-holiday season episode: holiday decor happening early in the season, how to listen and pay attention if your thyroid is actually telling you "no," and what about telling your own personal inner people-pleaser "no"? Saddle up for an extra bonus of how to take good care of that people pleaser when you stop letting her run your life (because watch out, she's going to try to get busy with...
2022-11-1648 minWest of WonderlandQuest for UnderstandingHow *does* one cross the threshold from a "should" conversation around structure into a "wanting" conversation around structure? Bay and Laura get real nerdy about the ever unfolding relationship between structure and magic. Why is it that humans are always on a Quest for Understanding? When is understanding enhancing our experience of magic and joy, and when is it limiting or control based? What's the relationship between Ontology and Phenomenology? It may make no sense but Laura's gonna try to make sure you get it. It is the American Way!
2022-11-0950 minWest of WonderlandA Witch Is Nothing Without Her CovenIt turns out that nobody is pretty enough for themselves at West of Wonderland this week. Laura used her tiny cauldron and created a pretty large releasing ritual, so naturally, Bay and Laura are discussing all things nature, beauty, ritual and witchy. What's powerful about creating rituals for yourself? Why does it seem to enhance rituals or spellcasting when your friends (aka coven sisters) suggest them out of love for you? What powerful messages did Bay and Laura find (or hate) in Hocus Pocus 2? Tune in for the witchiest episode of all. PS. Blue hair invited.
2022-11-0252 minWest of WonderlandStaying ScaredWhat's fascinating, fun, and important about spooky season? In West of Wonderland's second annual spooky season, Bay and Laura are investigating some ontologically interesting phenomena surrounding the season of the creepy. Why are we interested in being scared? Why are fear and darkness so pivotal to powerful stories, even when it's not a scary story? Why is it important to experience darkness arriving in a cyclical fashion? Also, how will Laura and Bay end up talking about the Velocicoaster on THIS episode?! You'll have to tune in to find out.
2022-10-1942 minWest of WonderlandPart of Her World Why is WoW so enrolled in Halle Bailey as Ariel? Bay and Laura speak from their particular identities about our new Ariel and all of her beautiful possibilities. Imaginative Leadership is built on powerful, humble, active inclusivity. Join Bay and Laura in a prismatic conversation about what's possible if we acknowledge the different facets of Ariel's possibility in the Disney fandom and beyond. PS. H20+ Beauty update, rose gold helmets, and Laura vibing with Nori Brandyfoot.
2022-10-0547 min2022-08-1738 minWest of WonderlandA Very West of Wonderland Birthday, Part 2 Rocket and Hermes have **a lot** to say about Bay and Laura and WoW's birthday this year. First Birthday Lightning Rounds include: favorite merch, favorite episodes, and a really detailed rundown of the concept of the Spirit Jersey. What's the difference between having an expectation for your birthday, and an intention? What are the bad feelings that surround an accomplishment and WHY do we have them? Where do our Rose Colored Glasses come in handy with regard to celebration? PS. Powerade works. PPS. Did Bay and Laura drop that they are starting a group? Maybe.
2022-08-101h 03West of WonderlandTiana's Bayou Adventure! Today, Bay and Laura open up all kinds of critical questions in a truly riveting episode of West of Wonderland, inviting you to consider queries such as: what kind of desk lotion do YOU have? Can you imagine the most beautiful cruise on the planet? On a more serious note, exciting updates from Disney about Tiana's Bayou Adventure, which, let's be honest, probably sent Bay and Laura straight to waldisneyworld.com to look at prices for the Port Orleans Resort. Because... mmm.... Mickey beignets.
2022-07-1334 minWest of WonderlandImagination, Ethics and Boundaries: Oh, My. Have YOU gone down the media rabbit-hole that Laura did this week, learning about Teal Swan's spiritual business and questionable healing methods? Bay and Laura discuss their growing appreciation for feedback, ethics, and communities of practice in this not TOO holier-than-thou episode. Coaches are among the privileged few who get to "imagine" their work into existence. And, since coaching is leadership, ethical service providers have got to put some, uh, is it too soon to say "checks and balances"? Ok...it's too soon.
2022-07-0658 minWest of WonderlandFresher Than I Thought Ah, the politics of coughs in 2022! Bay and Laura discuss what it's like to "get back to it" after two partners have been apart for awhile; what imaginitive leaders value when it comes to getting back to work. Also, what's it like to go from being a one-scent gal to two? Where can we practice not being wishy-washy about what we want? Why is it important to enjoy the stuff you make for yourself? All of life's questions answered in one simple podcast episode. Also, spoiler alert, Laura's house still has bees in it.
2022-06-151h 02West of WonderlandJourney Into Imagination with Bay and Laura"I don't want to be seen learning!" Oh, the vulnerability of being in possibilites; oh, the fever dream that is Figment's house. Bay and Laura revisit the concept of imagination as it relates to imaginitive leadership - what clicks open our imagination in a way that is helpful? Also: messing up, going beyond data in leadership, and arguments about seatbelts with Bay as an officer of the law.
2022-06-0153 minWest of WonderlandEnrollment Takes Your Participation... Especially at Disney The main difference between Universal parks and Disney parks - what's that, you ask? Besides EVERYTHING... Bay and Laura think it's in the Being and Ownership. Also: Rocket's Gym opens, the bees move in, novelists making plans, a magical moment for Bay at EPCOT, and Laura's endless desire to wave back.
2022-05-2548 minWest of WonderlandWhen You're the Best of Friends... Mama Universe is looking out for Bay as she and Laura prepare for their retreat-- err, vacation. This episode includes some trip planning, but mostly it's a romp through NOT the most magical themes in Disney movies, but instead, WHICH ONES DESTROYED US? Whether you're a fox being friends with a hound, or a lion cub who thinks he's murdered his own dad, you'll find a home in this episode. BTW if you need Laura to cry on command, make her sing "When You're The Best of Friends."
2022-05-041h 03West of WonderlandDisney Adults 101Welcome to the magical world of Disney Adults. How do adults get so obsessed with Disney fandom? Bay and Laura will not only explain Disney Adults as a phenomenon, but one hundred percent justify them — and perhaps even enroll you. Twinkly eyes and dreams coming true in this episode. PS. Bay and Laura are in Disney World RIGHT MEOW!
2022-04-2756 minWest of WonderlandCategorically NefariousAs Bay and Laura prep for their Orlando sabbatical coming up, they have a true bonanza of things to follow up on with all of you. How DID one of the Bobs finally address LGBTQ+ oppression in the wake of the "Don't Say Gay" bill? Unrelated, but also necessary follow-ups: R.A.B.'s level of hotness according to Laura; '90s fever dream The Parent Trap; when apologies work (and don't).
2022-04-131h 05West of WonderlandA Room Full of KidsBay and Laura acknowledge teachers fundamentally and indiscriminately in this episode, and kick off Lupin's Legacy Corner with stories of teachers whose dedication had a dramatic impact on the course of their lives. NBD. Also: was Regulus Black possibly kinda hot? What did Kreacher do when Harry, Hermione, and Ron didn't return to Grimmauld Place? Why can't Bay and Laura just be in Disney World already? Important questions are asked, and some are answered.
2022-04-0649 minWest of WonderlandMagic Doesn't Exclude(CW: Disordered Eating, Body Dysmorphia, LGBTQIA+ Oppression) Did anyone lock their doors in the burbs in the 90s? It's not the 90s anymore, it's 2022, and Bob Chapek's response to the "Don't Say Gay" bill being introduced in Florida is not impressing anyone. This episode is choc full of what not to do when packing for your Disney vacation, Laura's tips for staying comfy but still getting cute pics (and her insecurities), and most importantly, what to do as a leader when it's critical that you stand up as a supportive ally and demand inclusion on the world's stage. Bay...
2022-03-301h 02West of WonderlandMINI Episode: Special Message from Bay & Laura About UkraineTake a few minutes out of your day to process what's happening in Ukraine with Bay and Laura. Sending all of our love to everyone affected by this situation as it evolves.
2022-02-2817 minWest of WonderlandCoaching in Encanto: More/Less Special Than You ThinkLaura's just not that into ABBA y'all. Cat is out of the bag. This episode includes theories about Mirabel; the imaginative leadership of the twins in the Parent Trap is unmatched; and Bay and Laura dive into some coaching perspectives of Encanto including messaging of "being special" getting in the way of being yourself.
2022-02-231h 05West of WonderlandNot Our Official Encanto Episode, But....Sorry, and, you're welcome for the amount of pl-imagining about to happen in the coming months as Bay and Laura prepare for their pilgrimage. While Encanto wasn't formally on the agenda, Laura can't stop talking about it, and Bay shares why it's been difficult to digest. Ready, set, cry.
2022-02-021h 082022-01-191h 17West of WonderlandQueens in Present TenseEveryone experienced a transformation during Laura's wedding, including Rocket. This episode has it all: seasonal anxiety, archetypes about princesses and queens, Laura's obsession with Sheryl Paul, and a very important reference to Derek Delgaudio, the magician. Bay and Laura want your suggestions for the official WoW Cocktail Menu, in addition to their original cocktail, Drug Aboos.
2022-01-051h 13West of WonderlandMerry Season: Dear SantaBay and Laura break all the improv rules in this episode to discuss the shimmery allure of the idea of Santa Claus. What's special about Santa? What's fun about stealing Santa? What would Elf be like if Will Smith were Buddy instead of Will Ferrell? These inquiring minds want to know. Most importantly, Bay and Laura each share what they'd write to Santa about. PS. Grumplestiltskin emerges.
2021-12-1551 minWest of WonderlandOpen Heart, Open ArmsA week before Laura's wedding, Bay and Laura have all the feelings about the experience of open-heartedness during pivotal moments in life - and in leadership. Plus: fun trivia about a major "oops" moment on Disneyland's opening day.
2021-11-2459 minWest of WonderlandSame, but Different: S'mores EditionIt's open season on Alice in Wonderland, as Bay and Laura ponder the leadership lessons in the podcast's namesake film. Bay has a list, Laura's curious. Also: s'mores, Main Street snobbishness, and Harry Potter franchise crossovers.
2021-09-2256 minWest of WonderlandRose-Colored GlassesBay and Laura discuss power, some no-wins of organizational culture, shame spirals, and, well, SOMEONE'S gotta hold the candle for a positive outcome! Put on your rose-colored glasses and your Loungefly Disney skirt. PS. Are you the person Laura saw in the Magic Kingdom who was also wearing a Sorcerer's Apprentice skirt?
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