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Law and Chaos
Ep 148 — Trump Cancels Laws…For His Friends And Donors
Mike Lindell’s sparklemagic lawyers find out that sometimes ChatGPT ends with Rule 11. Then we visit Elon Musk and Sam Altman for a lesson in civil procedure. After that Andrew and Liz explain how Trump can’t actually un-ban TikTok via presidential edict and break down the latest Supreme Court efforts to burn down the judiciary. Plus for subscribers, Nate Silver — who only gambles for fun, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise! — is right about the Republicans’ trillion dollar tax heist??? Links: Coomer v. Lindell [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.co...
2025-07-08
45 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 146 — The Conservative Justices Seize Power
The Supreme Court’s last day of the term was an exercise of raw power. The six conservative justices gave lower courts the back of their hand, making clear that they — and only they! — will decide the law. Nationwide injunctions are out, and so is stare decisis. Andrew and Liz will break down the power grab, along with Mahmoud v. Taylor, in which the howler monkey wing allowed religious parents to opt their kids out of the “religious coercion” of reading books about gay people. Links: Kennedy v. Braidwood Management. https://www.supremec...
2025-07-01
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 142 — Who Is The Administrator of DOGE (feat. Anna Bower)
Liz and Andrew welcome Lawfare’s Anna Bower back to the show to discuss her singular obsession: who is the administrator of DOGE? Find out why that’s still a critical question and what discovering the answer might mean in terms of undoing policy, preserving records, and more. Links: Who Is The Administrator of DOGE, by Anna Bower https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/lawfare-daily--witaod Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
2025-06-17
1h 09
Law and Chaos
Ep 137 — Trump’s Bad Week In All The Courts
This week Trump got his ass kicked in courts no one’s ever heard of! From tariffs to immigration, Harvard to WilmerHale, it’s been a week of losing bigly. Andrew and Liz will break it down and explain what’s next. Links: Harvard College v. Department of Health and Human Services [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921962/president-and-fellows-of-harvard-college-v-us-department-of-health-and/ V.O.S. Selections, Inc. v. Trump [District Court Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69888953/vos-selections-inc-v-donald-j-trump V.O...
2025-05-30
1h 09
Law and Chaos
Ep 133 — The Supreme Court is LAWLESS (feat. Leah Litman)
Today, Liz and Andrew interview Prof. Leah Litman about her book Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes. And, as if to prove the point, the Supreme Court today entertained absolutely nonsense arguments in the birthright citizenship cases about how district courts can’t issue the kind of injunctions they’ve issued for the past two centuries because it would make Trump sad. Links: Leah Litman’s Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes https://www.amaz...
2025-05-16
1h 01
Law and Chaos
Ep 125 — Trial Judges Stand Up As SCOTUS Cowers
Chief Justice Roberts and the howler monkeys rolled over and played dead. But lower court judges understand the assignment, including Fourth Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, a conservative icon. He read Trump — and implicitly the Supreme Court — for filth. But will it be enough? Liz and Andrew discuss the latest developments in the Salvadoran rendition cases. Plus, Trump moves to put US taxpayers on the hook for the E. Jean Carroll verdict. Links: Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/ Abrego Garcia...
2025-04-18
59 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 123 — SCOTUS Will Protect Due Process. A Little Bit. If It Has To.
The Supreme Court had two big immigration rulings this week on deportees to the Salvadoran gulag prison: One terrible and one … marginally okay. Meanwhile at the White House, Tariff Man is running amok! Luckily, he extorted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of big firm billable hours to defend the government. But not from Susman Godfrey, the target of his latest wildly illegal executive order. Links: Tech Policy Podcast with Corbin Barthold (Liz and Andrew guest appearance) https://podcast.techfreedom.org/episodes/403-the-constitutional-crisis Abr...
2025-04-11
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 122 — Hang Together or Hang Separately (feat. Ken White)
Liz and Andrew sit down with fellow legal podcaster Ken White, AKA “Popehat,” to discuss the Trump administration’s attack on law firms. Who’s fighting? Who’s folding? And who’s f—ed? Plus an update on the case of the Maryland man deported to a torture prison in El Salvador, and the legal effort to get him home. And for subscribers: The DC Circuit considers if Humphreys Executor is dead, or just mostly dead? Links: Serious Trouble Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serious-trouble/id1630160928 Wilco...
2025-04-08
1h 05
Law and Chaos
Ep 120 — All The President’s Restraining Orders
Time to round up the latest in lawsuits against the Trump administration. The trans military ban is blocked. Renditioning Venezuelans to El Salvador without due process is blocked. The shutdown of the CFPB is blocked. The shutdown of the US Inst of Peace … not blocked. Yet! Liz and Andrew run down a bunch of the Trump cases and explain why it seems like every day brings another restraining order. (Hint: It’s because Trump wants to do lots of illegal stuff in a hurry.) Links: Name & Shame https...
2025-04-01
56 min
Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes
Trump 2.0 One Week In (with Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez from Law and Chaos)
Send us a textIn his first five days of being back in office, Donald Trump signed a flurry of executive orders that aim to reshape American immigration, justice and the federal government. His plans also put a lot of people in harms way. Grant breaks down the biggest orders and talks to Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez about Trumps moves to disappear trans people from public life, end birthright citizenship and send signals to business that he's in charge.LINKSLaw and Chaos Podcast LA Wildfire...
2025-01-24
43 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 101 — Executive Orders: Birthright Citizenship and Disappearing Trans People From Public Life
We’re breaking down two of the vilest executive orders Trump signed on his first day in office. First up, he’s attacking trans people every way he can, and the crueler, the better. How does this interact with the Supreme Court’s holding in Bostock? And Trump ignored 125 years of precedent to declare birthright citizenship illegal. One federal judge has already said NFW. Subscribers get a discussion of the latest Alex Jones bankruptcy negotiations. Links: Skrmetti: It was THAT Bad https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad?utm_source=public...
2025-01-24
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 94 — What To Expect When You’re Expecting An Orange Toddler President … AGAIN (ft. Evan Hurst)
We lived through it once, and we’ll do it again. Liz and Andrew talk with Wonkette Senior Editor Evan Hurst about the changing media landscape as we prepare for inauguration. Links: The Moral High Ground https://evanhurst.substack.com/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
2024-12-31
1h 12
Law and Chaos
Ep 93 — Rudy Giuliani Is Wilding Out, And Polio Is Ready For A Comeback (ft. Andrew Fleischman)
Rudy Giuliani’s wilding out, RFK Jr wants to bring back polio, and the Georgia Court of appeals just set fire to the last remnants of the Trump election interference case. Links: Freeman v. Giuliani [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69015293/freeman-v-giuliani/?order_by=desc GA Court of Appeals Willis Order https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270 Siri FDA Petition to revoke polio vaccine approval https://static01...
2024-12-24
1h 03
Law and Chaos
Ep 92 — Republicans Finally Found Someone To Blame For J6, And It Is Liz Cheney
Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that’s a great idea. But can he do that? We’ll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we’ve got a fun tour of defamation trollsuits from one of our favorite Kraken lawyers. Links: GA Court of Appeals Willis Order https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f...
2024-12-20
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 88 — Meet Brendan Carr, The Guy Who’s Going To Make Internet Service Even Sh*ttier (Ft. Karl Bode)
Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a “warrior for Free Speech” who “will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticize Trump, and his plans for rural broadband are even worse. And Liz and Andrew break down the issue “scrutiny” in Skrmetti, the SCOTUS case on healthcare for trans kids. Plus, we check in with Rudy Giuliani’s shenanigans in the subscriber bonus. ...
2024-12-06
1h 03
Law and Chaos
Ep 84 — The Infowars/Onion Deal Gets Peeled (feat. Kel McClanahan)
Goblinlover Alex Jones is threatening to jail Ben Collins, CEO of the Onion for trying to buy InfoWars. Meanwhile, the bankruptcy trustee is threatening to seek sanctions against Alex Jones’s lawyers for making frivolous arguments and telling half-truths. What’s next for the efforts to find some measure of justice for the Sandy Hook families? Plus, Donald Trump seems poised to hand over the nation’s national security secrets to a bunch of goons who couldn’t get cleared for a job as a mall cop. Can he do that? We welcome back Kel McClanahan of National Security Counselo...
2024-11-19
1h 06
Law and Chaos
Ep 83 — The Worst Person You Know … Is Getting Eaten By The Onion
The Onion is buying Infowars! Unless a bankruptcy judge puts the kibosh on the sale. And Rudy Giuliani’s lawyers are pulling the ripcord in the Freeman/Moss case. Also … Attorney General Matt Gaetz? WTF?!?! Links: Onion Press Release https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/ Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/ Giuliani - Caruso Declaration - lawyers withdrawing https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017.110.0.pdf New York Rules...
2024-11-15
56 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 82 — Trump Won The Presidency. He’s Seizing Congress By Fiat.
A week after the election, Trump is already demanding that Congress bend the knee and allow him to staff his administration without bothering to get Senate confirmation. Can he do that? And will the new Senate majority leader let him? Links: Musk's X seeks to steer lawsuits to conservative court in Texas https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-10-17/ Federalist No. 67 (Hamilton) https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/federalist-no-67/ Noel Canning v. NLRB https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case...
2024-11-12
56 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 81 — What Now?
Well, it happened. We talk about what the election of Donald Trump means for you, for the country, for this show, and for the efforts to hold Trump accountable for his crimes against the American people. Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he intends to “wrap up” his office; we tell you why and what that means. We’ll be here with you, and we’ll always tell you the truth. Links: NPR report: Smith To Wind Down https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/g-s1-33021/trump-trials-jack-smith-election-2024 28 CFR P...
2024-11-08
42 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 80 — How To Watch The Election Hour By Hour
Joe Dye is back to talk us through how to watch the election returns. How similar are Wisconsin and Iowa? When will we know the results out of Georgia? And what’s up with that Selzer poll? Andrew and Joe break it all down. Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
2024-11-05
1h 20
Law and Chaos
Ep 79 — Pennsylvania Gets A Jump On Election Litigation
Election litigation is well underway in Pennsylvania, even before election day. The Trump campaign has already racked up a win, since they decided that early voting is … good now? Meanwhile Elon Musk is dodging a civil action by Philadelphia’s DA over his million dollar “lottery,” and Trump filed an absolutely gonzo trollsuit in Texas against CBS. Links: Workers Say They Were Tricked and Threatened as Part of Elon Musk’s Get-Out-the-Vote Effort https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-blitz-canvassing-michigan-uhaul/ Lancaster County officials should deliver real...
2024-11-01
1h 03
Law and Chaos
Ep 78 — The Independent State Legislature Theory Is Back Bigly
Republicans have discovered ONE WEIRD TRICK to win elections, and it is for the legislatures to steal all the electoral votes. Or if that can’t be arranged, they’d accept an intervention from SCOTUS. We’ll discuss the independent state legislature theory, as well as Trump’s latest filing in the stolen documents appeal. Links: Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/ Pennsylvania v. America PAC complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25255630-philly-v-musk Pennsylvania SCT appeal (Genser v. Butler County)
2024-10-29
55 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 77 — Bush v. Gore On Steroids
What will happen on November 5 if Vice President Harris is narrowly ahead of Trump? Will it look like 2020? Or is it more likely to resemble 2000, with a knock down, drag out fight over every ballot? Liz and Andrew break it down. Links: Musk Is Going All In to Elect Trump https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/elon-musk-donald-trump-pennsylvania.html Press Release: Benedictine Sisters subject of fraudulent claim https://eriebenedictines.org/news-stories.html/article/2024/10/23/press-release-benedictine-sisters-subject-of-fraudulent-claims Wand et al., The Butterfly Did It: The Aberrant Vote for Bu...
2024-10-25
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 76 — Elon Is Evil, But He’s Not Buying Votes
Elon Musk is giving Trump’s campaign $75 million. Plus he’s paying out $1 million per day to “registered voters.” Is that a crime, or just a photo op? Meanwhile in DC, what can we learn from the Special Counsel’s latest filing in the Trump election case? And we answer questions about how to watch early election night returns. Links: Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/ US v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?order_by=desc Elon Musk...
2024-10-22
59 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 75 BONUS — How Kentucky and Indiana Can Tell Us If Kamala Harris Has Won on Election Night
In this BONUS episode, elections expert Joe Dye returns to tell us what to watch for when the very first returns on Election Day come in at 6 pm Eastern from Indiana and Kentucky. Learn how those deep red states will help us test six different bits of conventional wisdom we’ve all heard from the pundits, like whether Kamala Harris is facing a backlash from college students, or whether she has made inroads with educated white voters & so much more! Links: The Republican Feelings Industrial Complex https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/bon...
2024-10-21
50 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 74 — Judge Blows Up Billion Dollar Boeing Settlement For Excessive WOKE
Lt. Gov. Mark “Horndog” Robinson is suing CNN and a former porn shop worker named Louis Love Money for $50 million. And Texas’s worst(?) federal judge threatens to tank a Boeing plea deal because the federal monitor might do DEIs. Can’t have the airline pay victims of airline crashes unless the deal is 100 percent woke free! And for subscribers, a deep dive into the latest Trump election interference case foolishness. Links: Liz on Andrew Bailey: “Missouri AG Andy Bailey Face Plants All Over Federal Docket In Media Matters Case” https://www.lawandcha...
2024-10-18
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 73— Everything Must Go: The Alex Jones Edition
The courts are closed, but crazy never takes a break. We’ll check in on Alex Jones’s bankruptcy liquidation, Donald Trump’s shenanigans in the election interference case, and the horror show now that the mifepristone case is back before Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk. Subscribers catch up with Peter Navarro, who seems to be working at cross purposes to his old boss in federal court — although perhaps it hasn’t yet occurred to him. Links: Free Speech Systems Auction Page https://360assetadvisors.com/events/fssmh/ US v. Trump...
2024-10-15
1h 00
Law and Chaos
Ep 72 — Did SCOTUS Leave A Second Escape Hatch For Trump In The Election Case?
The Trump election interference case is back, and the immunity ruling isn’t the only way the Supreme Court tried to kneecap it. A case called Fischer v. US may prove fatal as well. Also, we take your questions of Florida’s abortion and marijuana ballot initiatives. And for subscribers, we catch up with Kraken weirdos Stefanie Lambert and Patrick Byrne. Links: FL Stat. 101-161 http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0101/Sections/0101.161.html Fischer v. US (2024) https...
2024-10-11
44 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 71 — Trump Judges Discover One Weird Trick To Get Rid Of Federal Regs (Hint: It Is A Sharpie!)
They’re baaaaaack! The Supreme Court’s October term starts this week, and the howler monkey wing is ready to FSU. Down in Florida, Trump appointee Judge Kathryn Mizelle is doing her best Aileen Cannon impersonation. That story has an old school deep dive from Andrew into 13th century Saxony and beyond. And, for subscribers, we’ll unpack an amazing grift in Oklahoma. Links: ABA Letter rating Mizelle “Not Qualified” https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/government_affairs_office/2020-09-08chair-rating-letter-to-graham-and-feinstein-re-nomination-of-kathryn-kimball-mizelle.pdf?logActivity=true False Claims...
2024-10-08
59 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 70 — “Make Them Riot. Do It!!!”
Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his opening salvo since the Supreme Court invented a new doctrine of absolute presidential immunity. Trump complained that the immunity brief is functionally a mini-Special Counsel report, and he’s not wrong. But if you don’t want your crimes on the public docket, maybe don’t try to overthrow democracy! Liz and Andrew break down the latest in Trump’s election interference case. Links: US v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?order_by=desc Show Link...
2024-10-04
1h 12
Law and Chaos
Ep 69 — Alex Jones, Eric Adams, And Donald Trump Walk Into A Bar
It’s a regular Star Wars bar on today’s show, with updates in Donald Trump’s election interference case and Alex Jones’s bankruptcy. But the real star is New York Mayor Eric Adams, who wants to dismiss his indictment because the Supreme Court says it’s not a bribe if you don’t get paid until after you do the official act. It’s a gratuity, which is as American as apple pie! Links: US v. Adams [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/ Free Speech Systems Bankru...
2024-10-01
1h 01
Law and Chaos
Ep 68 — Eric Adams Thought He’d Be President, And So Did His Turkish Handlers
The Mayor of New York was federally indicted for taking bribes from the Turkish government. He was not indicted for taking notes on a criminal f***ing conspiracy in flagrant violation of the Stringer Bell Rule. But perhaps the feds are saving that for a superseding indictment. And for subscribers: an update on the DC election interference case. Links: US v. Adams [SDNY Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/ US v. Trump [DC Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/do...
2024-09-27
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 67 — Election Shenanigans Palooza
It’s a roundup day! Time to run down the latest efforts to mess with the vote, from Georgia to Nebraska and all places in between. Then Cards Against Humanity sues SpaceX, and the complaint is a thing of beauty. Finally, let’s talk about Republicans’ grudging plan to NOT sink the economy before November. Please clap! Links: Fuzzy Math: Wrong Way Reforms for Allocating Electoral Votes https://fairvote.app.box.com/v/fuzzy-math-wrong-way-reforms RFK Jr. FEC Statement of Candidacy https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDoc...
2024-09-24
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 66 — Things You Wish You Didn’t Know, Some Of Them Not Even About Trump
Republican Mark Robinson hopes to be North Carolina’s next governor. Trump hopes he will go away and stop dragging down the ticket. Meanwhile, the documents case hits the Eleventh Circuit, and outside amici are asking the appeals court to disqualify Judge Aileen Cannon. And in Arizona, a federal judge told Mark Meadows to GTFO with his claim that he was doing official White House business when he tried to steal the state’s electors in 2020. Subscribers will get a deep dive into the sh*tshow that is Trump Media Technology Group stock. Links: US v. C...
2024-09-20
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 65 — Can You Censor the Internet By Shouting ‘It’s For the Kids?’
Utah tried to implement an age verification requirement for social media. The governor even got into a fight with our guest, free speech lawyer Ari Cohn, on Twitter, when he pointed out that the law was patently unconstitutional. But now a federal judge has enjoined it, because there is no One Weird Trick to get around the First Amendment. Did Gov. Cox ever apologize? Links: Nechoice v. Reyes [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68097000/netchoice-llc-v-reyes/ Utah Netchoice opinion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.u...
2024-09-17
42 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 64 — Debate Debacle Denouement
After Kamala Harris dogwalked Trump in Tuesday’s debate, he’s been melting down on every platform and demanding retribution against ABC. How many ways is that threat BS? All the ways! Meanwhile, it’s not just Taylor Swift who hates Donald Trump. It’s basically every artist on earth. And they’re making their feelings known in court. Finally, subscribers get a look at recent court decisions keeping RFK Jr on and off the ballot. Links: NC Supreme Court Ruling Re RFK Ballot Removal https://appellate.nccourts.org/orders.php?t=P&court=1&id...
2024-09-13
41 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 63 — Russia If You’re Listening: The Dipsh*ts Edition
Russia’s been renting out rightwing media influencers in a plot to undermine support for Ukraine, get Trump elected, and undermine American social unity? Say it ain’t so! We’ll break down the Justice Department’s indictment of two Russian agents for setting up a covert operation. And for subscribers, there’s bonus content on the FBI rolling up another Kremlin operation to plant fake news stories using spoofed websites. Links: Merchan delays sentencing https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25100932/people-v-djt-letter-adjournment-dec-9-6-24.pdf 18 USC § 1956 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode...
2024-09-10
54 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 62 — Elon Musk Is Trying To Break Brazil
Elon Musk claims to be defending free speech by picking a fight with the Brazilian government. But is this about his high minded principles, or his rightwing buddies? We’ll talk to international arbitration lawyer JJ Gass about Musk’s threats to Brazil and its politicians. (Full interview for subscribers.) Links: FSIA 28 U.S.C. § 1605 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1605 28 U.S.C. § 1610 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1610 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAnd...
2024-09-06
56 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 61 — What’s In A Name, Image, Likeness?
It’s deep dive day into the NCAA. How long can it get away with not paying players? And why can’t you buy a Marvin Harrison jersey? Plus, we’ll catch up on the Trump case in DC, along with a subscriber bonus on Trump’s pre-sentencing shenanigans in New York. Links: People of the State of NY v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67326478/people-of-the-state-of-new-york-v-trump/ US v. Trump [DC District Court Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/ Har...
2024-09-03
47 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 60 — Jack Is Back, And Georgia Is Wack
Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a superseding indictment in the election interference case. Time for Trump’s SCOTUS pals to ride to the rescue again! And in Georgia, local election officials are preparing to gum up the works if voters don’t give them what they want. Links: Trump DC superseding indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.226.0_38.pdf Trump DC original indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_10.pdf US v. Trump (DC) August 8, 2024 status report
2024-08-30
59 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 59 — RFK Drops Out, And The Stolen Docs Case Is Back
The stolen documents case is back! Judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the charges against Trump and his goons in July on the theory that special counsels are illegal, and Monday Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his brief to the Eleventh Circuit explaining why she is very obviously wrong. Plus, RFK Jr. dropped out and endorsed Trump. Does that mean he’s off the ballot everywhere? Links: Jack Smith 11th Cir Brief https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822.18.0_1.pdf Trump v. US https://www.sup...
2024-08-27
1h 09
Law and Chaos
Ep 58 — GOP Officials Working Overtime To Protect The Ballot From The Voters
Abortion is on the ballot in Missouri, Florida, and Arizona, and Republicans are working hard to stop women from controlling the ballot box, and their own bodies. Meanwhile at the Supreme Court, the conservative justices are trying to shave points for Trump in Arizona. And subscribers will hear about shenanigans at the Arkansas Supreme Court to disappear an abortion referendum. Links: MO Constitutional Amendment https://moconstitutionalfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Missourians-for-Constitutional-Freedom-Amendment.pdf MO Abortion Amendment Litigation Docket https://www.courts.mo.gov/cnet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=24AC-CC06970&inputVO.c...
2024-08-23
51 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 57 — Santos Goes to Jail, Disney Goes to Court, and Trump Goes After The Swifties
Former congressman George Santos — an heir to the Romanoff dynasty who discovered molybdenum — pleads guilty in New York. Disney tries to escape a wrongful death suit at its Florida Park because of an arbitration clause in its Disney+ fine print. And Trump claims an endorsement from AI Taylor Swift. What could possibly go wrong? Links: Piccolo Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/708687171/Raglan-Road-Lawsuit Disney MTC arbitration https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25041321/disney-arbitration-tangsuan.pdf Plaintiffs’ opposition https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25041320/disney-piccolo-response-tangsuan.pdf Raglan Road w...
2024-08-20
55 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 56 — RFK Jr Is In Trouble, And Not Just With Bears
A New York judge just kicked Robert Kennedy Jr. off the ballot for lying about his residency — a lie he told everywhere else, as well. Could this be the end of his spoiler candidacy? And for subscribers, an exploration of Gov. Ron DeSantis’s weird war on woke meat. Links: 28 U.S.C. § 455 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/455 Where RFK Jr. and Independent Candidates Are On The Ballot, New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/politics/presidential-candidates-third-party-independent.html RFK Jr. Noti...
2024-08-16
40 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 55 — Elon Musk Sues Advertisers For GIVE ME MONEY
Twitter filed an antitrust suit against a tiny non-profit trade group and a bunch of big companies for “illegally” boycotting his Nazi bar. To protect free speech! And for subscribers: Did Kamala copy Trump’s plan to cut taxes on tipped compensation? Links: RELEASE: Sen. Ted Cruz’s No Tax on Tips Act Does Little for Low- and Moderate-Wage Workers But Opens Door to Tax Abuse by Wealthy https://www.americanprogress.org/press/release-sen-ted-cruzs-no-tax-on-tips-act-does-little-for-low-and-moderate-wage-workers-but-opens-door-to-tax-abuse-by-wealthy/ It’s Now Impossible to Search Old Trump Tweets on X https://www.mediaite.com/online/its-n...
2024-08-13
45 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 54 — Tim Walz Does The Dang Work
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz accomplished more in one legislative term than most politicians do in a lifetime. Can he do the same for the country? We take a deep dive into some of the laws he championed in Minnesota. Is this … optimism??? Links: Louisiana Will Get The Ten Commandments Into Schools If They Have To Break 'Em All To Do It https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/louisiana-will-get-the-ten-commandments Idaho Stat. 18-623 https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-623/ Idaho Stat. 18-8807 h...
2024-08-09
51 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 53 — Trump’s Election Interference Case Is Back Just In Time For The Next Election
The Trump election interference case is finally back from getting beat to hell by the Supreme Court. What’s left after the disastrous immunity decision? And will the Supreme Court accept Mark Meadows’ invitation to do even more damage to the Republic in a naked bid to protect Trump’s cronies? Links: Trump v. US Immunity Decisions https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf US v. Trump District Court Docket via Court Listener https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/ Fischer v. US (2024) htt...
2024-08-06
1h 01
Law and Chaos
Ep 52 — Utah Supreme Court Casts Major Shade On Sam Alito
The Utah Supreme Court will not be LARPing as amateur historians, no matter what nonsense Justices Thomas and Alito get up to. The state’s highest court upholds an injunction blocking an abortion ban. And we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s ignominious exit from bankruptcy, along with Project 2025’s implosion. Have rumors of the manifesto’s demise been greatly exaggerated? Links: Gina Carano's Trollsuit Against Disney Lives To Fight Another Day https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gina-caranos-trollsuit-against-disney Roake v. Brumley - LA Ten Commandments docket https://www...
2024-08-02
1h 02
Law and Chaos
Ep 51 — Supreme Court Reform: First They Say You’re Crazy, Then They Fight You…
President Biden is out with an op ed on how to fix our broken Supreme Court. We discuss the plan and the possibilities of implementing it. Could we shunt some of these justices off to the minor leagues and save the country? And Missouri Attorney General Andy Bailey wants to keep a man in jail despite the fact that he is actually innocent. Wouldn’t want to look like he’s soft on crime! Links: NY AG brief in Missouri v. New York https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O159/319733/20240724191733354_22O159_NY%20Brief...
2024-07-30
55 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 50 — Project 2025: Yes, It Is THAT BAD
Project 2025 is the right’s manifesto on how to break the government and turn America into a Christian nationalist state. It’s also deeply weird — just like the guys who wrote it. We’ll break down 20 of the craziest policy proposals, and then take a deep dive into the plan to replace the civil service with an army of MAGA loyalists. Links: GOP Whines That It’s No Fair That Kamala Gets Joe’s Money https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gop-whines-that-its-no-fair-kamala Project 2025 https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Pendle...
2024-07-26
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 49 — Biden Bows Out, Kamala Sharpens Her Coconuts, and the GOP Gets Ready to Ratf—
Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term. Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf DNC 2024 Call For the DNC https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Call-for-Convention.pdf DNC 2024 Delegate Selection Rules
2024-07-23
1h 00
Law and Chaos
Ep 48 — Alec Baldwin Walks Out Of Court, While Rudy Giuliani Sloshes Back In
Rudy Giuliani discovers that getting out of bankruptcy court is harder than falling on your keyster at the RNC. And New Mexico prosecutors discover one weird trick to blow up a criminal case. (It is the Brady rule!) Plus Patreons get an update on the Louisiana ten commandments mandate. Links: NMSA 30-2-3 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-2/section-30-2-3/ NMSA 30-7-4 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-7/section-30-7-4/ Alec Baldwin docket https://caselookup.nmcourts.gov...
2024-07-19
57 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 47 — Trump Gets Christmas In July Thanks To Judge Aileen Cannon
Judge Cannon blows up the documents case by declaring special counsels illegal. All she had to do was ignore 50 years of precedent, five federal statutes, and two Supreme cases. Glove up for a deep dive, with Liz and Andrew. Links: Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
2024-07-16
59 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 46 — Rudy Giuliani and Bathtub Gin — Thanks, SCOTUS!
A Trump trial judge decides to overturn Supreme Court precedent on home distilling. And speaking of sobriety … we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to replicate Alex Jones’s stunning success in the bankruptcy court. Patreons get an extra field trip to Congress, where Oversight Chair James Comer invites the Biden administration to say where it would like to be kicked. Links: Wait, The Fifth Circuit Is Snatching Cases From Other Circuits Now? https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-fifth-circuit-is-snatching-cases 26 USC 5178 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/tex...
2024-07-12
51 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 45 — Kraken Crackpots and Cannon Balls
Today we have a deep dive into the absolute havoc SCOTUS’s immunity ruling will wreak in Trump’s document theft case — even though he was out of the White House when he committed his crimes! But first, the election denying weirdos and their election denying lawyers are Froot Looping all over the docket in the Dominion defamation case. And for subscribers: a discussion of the Alex Jones bankruptcy debacle. Links: 18 USC 333 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333 John Case in 2015 https://www.evanscase.com/john-case-senior-partner-at-evans-case-llp-attorney-named-colorado-super-lawyer/ ...
2024-07-09
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 44 — SCOTUS Decides Not To Break The Internet … Yet (Feat. Corbin Barthold)
Liz and Andrew talk to Tech Freedom’s Corbin Barthold about two recent SCOTUS decisions involving conservative efforts to claim victimhood on social media. In Murthy v. Missouri, Missouri and Louisiana complained about the Biden administration’s efforts to push back against covid misinformation on social media. And in Moody v. Netchoice, Florida and Texas attempted to impose state controls on what social media platforms may restrict. Links: Murthy v. Missouri (SCOTUS) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411new_7mio.pdf Missouri v. Biden (5th Cir) ht...
2024-07-05
1h 02
Law and Chaos
Ep 43 — Well … So Much For The Republic
SCOTUS gives Trump everything his heart desires and more. Not only does he get to stay out of jail, he gets to be king if he wins again. Liz and Andrew break down the disaster. Links: Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf The Court’s Fischer Ruling Is a Symbolic Setback for the Justice Department—But One With Modest Consequences — by Roger Parloff https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-court-s-fischer-ruling-is-a-symbolic-setback-for-the-justice-department-but-one-with-modest-consequences Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinio...
2024-07-02
56 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 42 — SCOTUS Wrecks the SEC, While Judge Cannon Wrecks Her Credibility … Such As It Was
In today’s episode, we check in with the Supreme Court that still has six cases left to decide, including the key decision on Presidential immunity. We break down Moyle v. US, in which the Supreme Court punted (for now) on the seemingly straightforward question of whether state abortion laws can supersede the federal EMTALA law protecting women in emergency rooms. Then, we discuss SEC v. Jarkesy, in which the Roberts Court continues to gut the administrative state, this time by restricting how the Securities and Exchange Commission can go after securities fraud. And in between, we update you on...
2024-06-28
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 41 — Chief Justice Roberts Will Do Anything For Guns, But He Won’t Do THAT
Today’s episode takes a look at two of the Supreme Court’s decisions from last week, US v. Rahimi, which apparently involves both gun control and time travel, and Erlinger v. US, which is an incredibly nuanced discussion of what qualifies as a prior offense under a Reagan-era federal law, so MAGA nation is of course lying about it being relevant to somehow overturning Donald Trump’s 34 state felony convictions. It isn’t. Finally, we update you as to the free-for-all unfolding now that Alex Jones’s company has been dismissed from its bankruptcy. It’s Texas justice! ...
2024-06-25
43 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 40 — Conservative Judges, Drunk On Power, Take The Wheel (feat. Amanda Marcotte)
Today, Liz and Andrew talk to Salon’s Amanda Marcotte about the right wing’s assault on Title IX through the prism of the political wedge issue of women’s sports. Then, Amanda breaks down the phenomenon of conservative “tradwives” as both cosplay and a gateway drug to white supremacy. Links: “Texas professors sue to fail students who seek abortions,” by Amanda Marcotte https://www.salon.com/2024/06/03/texas-professors-to-fail-students-seek-abortions/ “After Supreme Court's abortion pill decision, Donald Trump is even more likely to ban abortion,” by Amanda Marcotte https://www.salo...
2024-06-21
1h 12
Law and Chaos
Ep 39 — Trump Lawyers Flop Like Ronaldo As Alex Jones Dances Out Of Bankruptcy
We update you on the developments at Alex Jones’s two bankruptcy hearings last week and why they were a big win for the conspiracy theorist, with a special deep dive into Article I vs. Article III judges. Then, we discuss the latest from the Supreme court, before turning our attention to the myriad ways in which Donald Trump’s lawyers are still takin’ a dive before Aileen Cannon in the Southern District of Florida, just hoping that she’ll throw that red card. Links: 27 CFR Parts 447, 478, and 479 https://www.govinfo.gov/conte...
2024-06-18
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 38 — Alex Jones’s Bankruptcy Is TURNIN’ THE FREAKIN’ FROGS GAY!
It’s another Trump-free extravaganza! We discuss the Hunter Biden conviction, forthcoming sentencing and appeals. Then, Liz and Andrew walk through the Supreme Court’s 9-0 reversal of the Fifth Circuit, protecting – for now! – the right to medical abortion drugs over the internet. Finally, in a lengthy segment (with a long Patreon bonus!), we tell you everything you need to know about a critical juncture in the Alex Jones corporate bankruptcy in the face of likely and deliberate misinformation by Alex Jones regardless of what happens. Links: L&C Episode 28 https://podcasts...
2024-06-14
53 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)
Pennsylvania dad Darren Laustsen saw books disappearing from his daughter’s school — books which just so happened to be on the Moms for Liberty hit list. And he did something about it! Andrew and Liz talk to Darren and his lawyer Joy Ramsingh about their open records case that revealed a school board plot to shadowban books. Links: Laustsen v. Pennridge SD docket https://propublic.buckscountyonline.org/PSI/v/detail/Case/6253965 SB answer https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?id=129351 10/19/23 Order https://www.openre...
2024-06-11
1h 07
Law and Chaos
Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!
We update you on all of the states that have brought criminal charges against those involved in the “fake electors” plot to try and keep Donald Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election, including in particular the latest criminal complaint filed against Ken Chesbro in Wisconsin. In the B segment, we tell you how the Biden administration FINALLY banned asbestos. In 2024. Links: Chesebro “The Real Deadline for Settling a State’s Electoral Votes” memo https://app.box.com/s/ifis7hu74dz6xp0awkq567ygetrvcof1/file/1460145645094 AZ fake ele...
2024-06-07
50 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!
We answer your follow-up questions on the Trump verdict in New York, remind you that Aileen Cannon continues to get worse and worse in the Trump documents case in FL, talk about Sam Alito’s fondness for flags, and give you an extra-long patreon bonus on Stan Woodward’s dedication to NOT his client. Links: Alito https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24698834-letter-from-justice-alito-to-senators-durbin-and-whitehouse Noreika denial of Hunter Biden MTD on invalidity of special counsel https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.101.0.pdf 18 U.S.C. 2...
2024-06-04
1h 06
Law and Chaos
Ep 34 — GUILTY
IT IS FINISHED. Today, the jury in New York unanimously agreed that Donald Trump committed 34 felonies, falsifying business records in the first degree, when he repaid Michael Cohen for secretly paying off Stormy Daniels to bury her story right before the 2016 election. What does it all mean and what comes next? Listen and find out! Links: NY Penal Law 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/ New York Penal Sec. 70 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00 New York Penal Sec. 65 https://codes.findlaw...
2024-05-31
57 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 33 — Trump Trials: What Does The Manhattan DA Have To Do To Secure A Conviction?
Trump’s false business records case goes to the jury in New York. Liz and Andrew break down the charges and the jury instructions, as well as debunking some of Trumpland’s wildest lies about the law. Links: CITES NY PEN 175.05 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-05/ NY PEN 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/ Cohen plea deal https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax NY Election law 17-152 New York Criminal Pattern Jury I...
2024-05-28
1h 07
Law and Chaos
Ep 32 — SCOTUS Says Racial Gerrymanders Are Very Cool and Very Legal
Liz and Andrew break down the latest Supreme Court horror ruling, greenlighting racial gerrymandering to all Republicans to choose their voters, and not the other way around. And then it’s off to Florida to catch up on the latest wacka**ery in the Trump stolen docs case. Links: Rucho v. Common Cause (2019) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6090361490276671133 Gill v. Whitford (2018) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-1161_dc8f.pdf Alexander v. S.C. NAACP (2024) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf...
2024-05-24
50 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 31 — The Trump Trials: What Are They Thinking? (Plus Clarence Thomas Surprises Us All)
Trump’s lawyers make a bevy of unforced errors as their client continues to march ever closer to a conviction in New York for fraud in concealing the payoff payment to Stormy Daniels. Also, the Supreme Court surprises us, sort of, for now, by not sacking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and by allowing a Louisiana congressional map to go into effect that doubles the minority representation in that state. Links: 12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V CFPB Initial Report, July 18, 2011
2024-05-21
50 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 30 — The Trump Trials: SLEAZE-A-PALOOZA!
The Trump trial in New York is racing toward the finish line, with Michael Cohen potentially the last witness. Meanwhile in DC, Steve Bannon reaches the findout on his contempt of congress charge. Links: US v. Navarro [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/ 2 U.S.C. § 192 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192 18 U.S.C. § 3624 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624 18 U.S.C. § 3632 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3632 18 U.S.C...
2024-05-17
1h 05
Law and Chaos
Ep 29 — The Trump Trials: She Is The Storm
Liz and Andrew check in on the latest hilarity from Stefanie Lambert, the Kraken alum who’s now been arrested twice for trying to overthrow the 2020 election. Then, they break down last week in Trump’s NY trial with a focus on Stormy Daniels’ testimony and what the DA’s office has left to prove. Links: New York Penal Law § 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10 Dominion v. Byrne Lambert Motion to Adjourn https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.98.0.pdf Dom...
2024-05-14
42 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 28 — Throwing Shade on the Supreme Court (Feat. Steve Vladeck)
Liz and Andrew interview law professor Steven Vladek about The Shadow Docket, what makes the Supreme Court legitimate, and how to think and talk about it in order to reform the Court for the future. Links: The Shadow Docket https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Docket-Supreme-Undermine-Republic/dp/B0BJ15Q9VZ/ Lisa Needham on Public Notice, “The Dangerously Illiberal Judges” https://www.publicnotice.co/p/columbia-protests-law-clerk-trump-judges-boycott Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAnd...
2024-05-10
1h 06
Law and Chaos
Ep 27 — Trump Trials And Chemtrails
Liz and Andrew break Justice Merchan’s contempt ruling that paves the way for Trump to spend time in lockup, then discuss the witnesses and how they did, or did not, help the prosecution build its case. Plus, Tennessee banned contrails and maybe … spray bottles? Links: Second Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/DOcontempt_5-6-24FINAL.pdf Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2022 https://www.congress.gov/117/plaws/publ103/PLAW-117publ103.pdf 2023 OSTP Geoengineering Report https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Congres...
2024-05-07
41 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 26 — Joe Biden Loves Ice Cream And … Weed?
Liz and Andrew Torrez catch up with Trump’s election lawyers. Where are they now, and why isn’t it the hoosegow? Then a deep dive into the Biden administration’s plan to reschedule marijuana. But first, Donald Trump has nothing but contempt for this court! Links: Trump Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf Eastman Disciplinary Order https://discipline.calbar.ca.gov/portal/DocumentViewer/Index/UTKQ_Y63MDG4l4uhXSVCPqiU-at38jxNGUYub4sJpbGYEMPf_DmMRzCZgpvdUiQob9K9TKikC0XkAwVvafs3...
2024-05-03
42 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 25 — Another Set Of Fake Electors Reaches The Find Out (Feat. Tom Ryan)
Liz sits down with Arizona trial lawyer Tom Ryan to discuss last week’s indictment of fake electors by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes. It’s indictment-thirty for Boris Epshteyn and Christina Bobb! Links: Gag Order https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/JustSecurityNY2016ElectionInterferenceCaseClearinghouse%E2%80%94Order-granting-State-of-New-York-motion-to-restrict-Trump-extrajudicial-statements-March-26-2024.pdf Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment%20Redacted.pdf DM Cantor on Class 2 felonies in AZ https://dmcantor.com/class-2-felony-in-arizona# AZ Central story https://www.azcentral.com/story/n...
2024-04-30
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 24 — SCOTUS Beclowns Itself For Trump (Feat. Andrew Torrez)
Liz talks to podcaster Andrew Torrez about Trump’s Manhattan prosecution and the debacle at the Supreme Court Thursday when Trump made his magical, perpetual, presidential immunity argument. Links: Arizona v. Ward — Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment.pdf People v. Trump — Transcripts https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/ People v. Trump — Evidence https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/Evidence/ Trump v. US — SCOTUS Docket https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23...
2024-04-26
1h 04
Law and Chaos
Ep 23 — LFG: Trump On Trial
Trump’s first criminal trial gets underway in Manhattan, even as he fights to get the court to accept his hinky bond in the civil fraud case. Links: NYAG Opposition to Trump/Knight Surety Bond https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=E/oR7WnxPeT2tSnZpOGlBA== Trump Civil Trial NY, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justsecurity.org/89120/clearinghouse-new-york-attorney-general-corporate-fraud-case/ Trump False Business Records Case, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justsecurity.org/89089/clearinghouse-2016-election...
2024-04-23
29 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 22 — Hunter Biden And The Lies They Wish Were True (Feat. Marcy Wheeler)
Hey guys, it’s Liz Dye, and we’ve got some big, exciting changes coming your way next week. It’s all still in process, but I can tell you now that we’ll be shifting our podcast drops from Monday/Friday to Tuesday/Friday and ramping up the written content, as well. So, heads up, the next show will be in your feed Tuesday, not Monday. But today, I’m so excited to talk to a personal hero of mine, Marcy Wheeler. This woman is relentless! If you want to understand what’s going on with the Bi...
2024-04-19
1h 09
Law and Chaos
Ep 21 — It’s A Trump Corruptionpalooza (Feat. Zach Everson)
On the eve of Trump’s first criminal trial, Liz sits down with Forbes reporter Zach Everson for a trip down memory lane, recounting the breathtaking corruption of Trump’s first term. Plus, Texas AG Ken Paxton loses a round in DC against Media Matters. Links: Zach Everson’s Substack on the Trump Hotel https://www.1100pennsylvania.com/ How a Nigerian Presidential Candidate Hired a Trump Lobbyist and Ended Up in Trump’s Lobby https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/trumpinc/episodes/trump-inc-nigerian-presidential-candidate-hired-trump-lobbyist-trumps-lobby Previously Obscure Attorney Lands Big P...
2024-04-15
46 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 20 — Fifth Circuit WTF? (Feat Chris Geidner)
Liz talks to journalist Chris Geidner about the lawless Fifth Circuit, which is now snatching cases back from other Circuits — and even from their own District Courts — in a mad rush to stop the Biden administration from protecting workers and consumers. Links: https://www.lawdork.com/ The Fifth Circuit's lawlessness is now spreading from California to D.C. https://www.lawdork.com/p/fifth-circuit-venue-nlrb-spacex-cfpb-chamber Chamber of Commerce v. CFPB (Fifth Circuit Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68371345/chamber-of-commerce-v-cfpb/ Chamber of Commerc...
2024-04-12
45 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 19 — All The Trump That’s Fit To Print (Feat. Anna Bower)
This weekend Donald Trump compared himself to Nelson Mandela. Liz talks with Lawfare’s Anna Bower, who lives out of a suitcase covering the Trump trials beat, to see if she agrees. Plus, WTF is going on with Trump’s bond in the New York civil fraud trial? Links: Trump’s Lawyers Told the Court That No One Would Give Him a Bond. Then He Got a Lifeline, but They Didn’t Tell the Judges. https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-bond-disclosure-appeals-court-hankey Businessman behind Trump's NY bond says he...
2024-04-08
1h 09
Law and Chaos
Ep 18 — The Chief Justice That Caught The Car (Feat. Mike Sacks)
Liz talks to veteran legal journalist Mike Sacks about the Supreme Court and the decades-old plan to enshrine minority rule into law. How did the Chief Justice wind up frantically tapping the brakes as his own conservative colleagues are going pedal to the metal? And WTF is going on with Judge Cannon in the Trump docs case? Links: US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/ Special Counsel Threatens To Go To 11th Circuit, Reminds Judge Cannon What Happened The Last Tim...
2024-04-05
1h 12
Law and Chaos
Ep 17 — SCOTUS Looks Ready To Terminate Mifepristone Case (Feat. Susan Rinkunas)
Have anti-choice astroturf groups gone too far? Will SCOTUS save medication abortion from the loons at the Fifth Circuit? Liz discusses the arguments in FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine with reproductive rights reporter Susan Rinkunas. Links: FDA v. Alliance Hippocratic Medicine, Transcript and Audio of Oral Arguments https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-235 The ‘WTF Is Happening’ Guide to the Supreme Court Abortion Pill Case, by Susan Rinkunas https://www.jezebel.com/the-wtf-is-happening-guide-to-the-supreme-court-abortion-pill-case How Hobby Lobby Could Be Trump’s Reproductive Rights Wrecking...
2024-04-01
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 16 — Can You Weirdos Knock It Off With the TikTok Bans! (Feat. Corbin Barthold)
States are banning it, employers are blocking it, and now the US government is trying to steal it. What’s with all the noise around TikTok? TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold explains why politicians need to take several giant steps back and stop trying to tell kids how to do the internet. Links: A Breakdown of the Bizarre Factions Fighting Over the TikTok Ban Bill, by Corbin Barthold https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/tiktok-ban-bizarre-factions-strange-bedfellows H.R.7521 - Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act https://www.con...
2024-03-29
1h 05
Law and Chaos
Ep 15: Trials And Judgements And Bonds, Oh, My! (Feat. Mitchell Epner)
Liz discusses all the Trump civil and criminal trials with New York litigator Mitchell Epner. Will Trump be able to pay that $454 million bond with the proceeds from taking Truth Social public? We’ll break it down. Links: Carroll v. Trump (I) [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/ Carroll v. Trump (I) — Denial of Rule 59 Motion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0_1.pdf US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener]
2024-03-25
1h 17
Law and Chaos
Ep 14 — Our Ethics-Optional Supreme Court (Feat. Gabe Roth)
Recent revelations have shone a spotlight on the Supreme Court’s broken ethics rules, and boy are the justices mad about it. We talk to Gabe Roth, executive director of Fix the Court about the problem and what to do about it. But first, a breakdown of Trump’s appeal of Judge McAfee’s denial of the motion to disqualify DA Fani Willis in Georgia. Links: Fix the Court https://fixthecourt.com/ O.C.G.A. § 5-6-34 https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/202...
2024-03-22
1h 05
Law and Chaos
Ep 13 – What a Difference Fair Maps Make (Feat. Jamie Lynn Crofts)
Liz talks to voting rights expert Jamie Lynn Crofts about the court order which forced Republicans in Wisconsin to surrender their stranglehold gerrymander. How will fair maps affect the Badger State? And what lessons can we learn for the country as a whole? Links: All Voting Is Local https://allvotingislocal.org/ Clarke v. Wisconsin Election Commission, OPINION https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=745249 US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.co...
2024-03-18
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 12 - Trump’s First Trial (Feat. Diana Florence)
Liz talks to Diana Florence, a litigator in New York who spent 24 years in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office. They break down the upcoming Trump trial for creating false business records as part of the scheme to disguise the Stormy Daniels hush money payment as legal fees. What should you expect in the first Trump criminal trial? Tune in for a former NY prosecutor’s take! Links: Trump Notice Regarding Advice of Counsel Defense https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Trump-Clearinghouse-%E2%80%94-Trump-notice-concerning-his-intent-to-rely-on-an-advice-of-counsel-defense-March-11-2024.pdf T...
2024-03-15
1h 01
Law and Chaos
Ep 11 - Why Are Arizona Republicans So Weird? (Feat. Tom Ryan)
Liz talks to Arizona litigator Tom Ryan about how his state’s GOP learned to stop worrying and love the loon. We’ll cover all Kari Lake’s litigation — she’s having no luck as a plaintiff, and even less as a defendant. And we’ll talk about what’s next for Democrats and Republicans in the Grand Canyon State. Links: Richer v. Lake Complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23858088-richer-v-lake Petersen v. Fontes Case Docs (via Democracy Docket) https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/arizona-2023-election-procedures-manual-challenge/ US v. Trump...
2024-03-11
1h 00
Law and Chaos
Ep 10 - Ken Paxton: A Cartoon Villain Finally Goes To Trial (Feat. Dan Solomon)
On the eve of Ken Paxton’s trial for securities fraud — a mere nine years after he got indicted — Liz talks to Texas Monthly reporter Dan Solomon about the state’s embattled Attorney General. How much worse has he gotten since surviving impeachment? Will he play a role in a future Trump administration? And is this literally hell we are living in now? Links: Carroll Bond Ruling https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.315.0.pdf Ken Paxton Argues That Ken Paxton Has Violated Ken Paxton’s Right to a...
2024-03-08
58 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 9 - Will SCOTUS Avenge Trump By Breaking Social Media? (Feat. Corbin Barthold)
Should the government be able to order social media platforms to host political speech? Does the First Amendment even exist any more? And do we really have to side with Justice Kavanaugh on this one? Liz talks to TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold about the Netchoice cases. Links: Tech Policy Podcast https://podcast.techfreedom.org/ Moody v. Netchoice (Texas Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-555.html Moody v. Netchoice (Florida Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename...
2024-03-04
1h 01
Law and Chaos
Ep 8 - Donald Trump: Document Thief In Chief (Feat. Kel McClanahan)
Liz talks to national security law expert Kel McClanahan about the Trump documents case in Florida and how he could use classified materials to derail the trial until after the election. Links: SCOTUS Order Granting Cert on Trump Immunity Claim https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/022824zr3_febh.pdf US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/ Classified Information Procedures Act https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/title18a/node16&edition=prelim ...
2024-03-01
1h 05
Law and Chaos
Ep 7 - Alabama Courts Protect Life By Outlawing IVF (Feat. Ellen Trachman)
Liz talks to repro law expert Ellen Trachman, host of the podcast “I Want to Put a Baby in You” about the recent Alabama decision which functionally outlaws in vitro fertilization. Is this the beginning of a trend, or will Republicans course correct out of fear of the wrath of women voters? Links: Ellen Trachman at Above the Law https://abovethelaw.com/author/ellentrachman/ The “I Want to Put a Baby In You” Podcast https://iwanttoputababyinyou.com/ Alabama IVF ruling https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/court...
2024-02-26
51 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 6 - First The Proud Boys, Then Trump (Feat. Brandi Buchman)
Liz talks to reporter Brandi Buchman about the prosecutions of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers for seditious conspiracy and how those prosecutions paved the way for Trump’s election interference case. Links: In Re: Lindell Management LLC Litigation [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67410449/in-re-lindell-management-llc-litigation/ Brandi Buchman at Law and Crime https://lawandcrime.com/author/brandi-buchman/ US v. Trump [District DC Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67891889/united-states-v-donald-trump/ US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via C...
2024-02-23
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 5 - The Trump Verdicts: Half a Billion Dollars of Winning (Feat. Jose Pagliery)
Liz talks to Daily Beast reporter Jose Pagliery about the $355 million verdict that’s really a $450 million verdict in Trump’s civil fraud trial. Plus the Carroll defamation suits, and the upcoming criminal trial in March for falsifying records to cover up the Stormy Daniels payoff. And … the state of American democracy! Justice Engoron Holding https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/452564_2022_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_v_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_DECISION_AFTER_TRIAL_1688.pdf Justice Merchan Holding https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People-v-DonaldTrump2-15-24Decision.pdf...
2024-02-19
57 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 4 - Trump At SCOTUS: The Insurrectionist Gets His Day In Court (Feat. Eric Segall)
With Trump’s ballot disqualification on the docket, all eyes were on SCOTUS last week. Liz talks about the argument at the Supreme Court with guest Eric Segall, and lays out the various off-ramps the justices might take to keep a criminal insurrectionist on the ballot this November. “Originalism as Faith” by Eric Segall https://www.amazon.com/Originalism-as-Faith-Eric-Segall/dp/1316640469 “Supreme Myths: Why the Supreme Court Is Not a Court and Its Justices Are Not Judges” by Eric Segall https://www.amazon.com/Supreme-Myths-Court-Justices-Judges-ebook/dp/B0C775Z6CP?ref_=ast_author_mpb ...
2024-02-12
52 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 3 - How to NOT Piss Off a Jury
Liz talks to a jury consultant about the Trump trials. US v. Trump [SDFL Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc US v. Trump [DC District Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc US v. Trump [DC Circuit Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68073028/united-states-v-donald-trump/ Trump v. Anderson [SCOTUS Docket] https://www.supremecourt.gov/sea...
2024-02-05
54 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 2 - The Trump GA RICO Debacle: How Bad Is It? (feat. Andrew Fleischman)
After allegations that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is romantically involved with the special prosecutor hired by her office, the sharks are circling both legally and politically. Is this case totally boned? Liz asks Georgia defense attorney Andrew Fleischman what’s next in this crucial election interference case. Show Links: Fulton County Docket: State of Georgia v. Donald J. Trump https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/Index/142 What Fani Willis Got Wrong in Her Trump Indictment, by Andrew Fleischman https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/29/opinio...
2024-02-01
48 min
Law and Chaos
Ep 1 - E. Jean Carroll Grabs Trump By The Wallet (feat. Mitchell Epner)
Description: Liz hosts former federal prosecutor Mitchell Epner to discuss last week’s massive $83 million damage award in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case. What happens when he appeals? Was it smart for Trump to testify? And WTF is up with his lawyers? Show links: Carroll v. Trump I [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [Circuit Court Docket via Court Listener] Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueS...
2024-01-29
57 min
Law and Chaos
0 - Introduction to Law & Chaos by Liz Dye
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle.
2024-01-26
01 min