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Thoughtful PlanningEnd of Life Conversations: Using the EOL Deck to Talk About Final WishesEpisode Summary: In our last episode, we used The Death Deck while everyone was healthy. But what happens when someone is actually facing the end of life? Honey & Santiago introduce The EOL Deck, a tool for families, caregivers, & healthcare providers to explore what truly matters in someone's final chapter. They work through real questions & exchange answers to show how these difficult conversations unfold.
Essential Question: If someone you love were facing the end of their life right now, would you know what truly matters to them in their final days?
Content Warning: This episode discusses...
2025-10-2122 min
When You DieLisa Pahl: Dealing with Death.. With a game of cardsDeath is in the cards, so why not deal yourself a hand and have a laugh? That's what the Death Deck is about. Created by Lisa Pahl and her business partner Lori LoCicero, The Death Deck offers a creative way to have those difficult conversations. As a Hospice and Emergency Medicine Social Worker, Lisa saw first hand how people avoid the topic of death, even those who work in end of life care. She joins Kelley Edwards for a chat about how important it really is to have these conversations before it's too late.
2024-07-2929 min
Lighting the Path: A New Concept of Hospice CareA Unique Tool to Make the Uncomfortable Conversations EasierDespite the fact that most end of life professionals work with people who are nearing death, it's sometimes uncomfortable for them to discuss death and dying with the patient or family. Lisa Pahl is a hospice social worker and understands the challenge of uncomfortable conversations, so she and her creative partner, Lori LoCicero, created a spinoff game from the Death Deck called the E-O-L Deck. In this episode Lisa explains how the E-O-L Deck can be used by healthcare professionals (and families) to facilitate meaningful conversations. To learn more about The E-O-L Deck and The Death Deck, plea...
2024-03-0516 minLighting the Path: A New Concept of Hospice CareA Unique Tool to Make the Uncomfortable Conversations EasierDespite the fact that most end of life professionals work with people who are nearing death, it's sometimes uncomfortable for them to discuss death and dying with the patient or family. Lisa Pahl is a hospice social worker and understands the challenge of uncomfortable conversations, so she and her creative partner, Lori LoCicero, created a spinoff game from the Death Deck called the E-O-L Deck. In this episode Lisa explains how the E-O-L Deck can be used by healthcare professionals (and families) to facilitate meaningful conversations. To learn more about The E-O-L Deck and The Death Deck, plea...
2024-03-0516 min
The Whole Care NetworkDignity Pajamas are an Excellent Choice to Provide Comfort and DignityDignity Pajama designer Fran Goldberg used ingenuity to create pajamas for bedbound patients, and created meaning following the death of her parents. As a clothing designer, Fran knows design and fabrics. As a caregiver for both her parents at the end of their lives, she learned the importance of comfort, dignity, and convenience in pajamas. The designs of Dignity Pajamas include features that protect the skin and preserve the modesty of the wearer. When Fran saw a paid caregiver cut a t-shirt up the back for Fran’s mother to wear, she knew her mother would never choose something li...
2023-11-1055 min
The Heart of Hospice PodcastDignity Pajamas are a Great Choice to Provide Comfort and DignityDignity Pajama designer Fran Goldberg used ingenuity to create pajamas for bedbound patients, and created meaning following the death of her parents. As a clothing designer, Fran knows design and fabrics. As a caregiver for both her parents at the end of their lives, she learned the importance of comfort, dignity, and convenience in pajamas. The designs of Dignity Pajamas include features that protect the skin and preserve the modesty of the wearer. When Fran saw a paid caregiver cut a t-shirt up the back for Fran’s mother to wear, she knew her mother would never choose something like t...
2023-11-1055 min
The Whole Care NetworkHow Music Can Transform the End of Life ExperienceBev Foster with Music Care by Room 217 is using beautiful music to create meaning at the end of life. Using her skills as a musician, Bev founded Room 217 to teach clinicians and caregivers about integrating music into the care experience.
Here’s what Bev says about her own personal experience: As a musician, the effects of what I do have always intrigued me. Using music in my personal caregiving experiences has compelled me to look farther and wider at its use in health care. My vision is that music care, in all its methods of delivery, be ac...
2023-11-0358 min
The Heart of Hospice PodcastLearning How To Use Music At The End Of LifeBev Foster with Music Care by Room 217 is using beautiful music to create meaning at the end of life. Using her skills as a musician, Bev founded Room 217 to teach clinicians and caregivers about integrating music into the care experience.
Here’s what Bev says about her own personal experience: As a musician, the effects of what I do have always intrigued me. Using music in my personal caregiving experiences has compelled me to look farther and wider at its use in health care. My vision is that music care, in all its methods of delivery, be access...
2023-11-0358 min
Purposeful Planning PodcastWhy Conversations About Death MatterLori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl are the creators of The Death Deck, a card game that exploresdeath and dying using multiple-choice questions and a dose of humor. The two describe theirpersonal and professional experiences that led them to create a tool to open end-of-lifeconversations. They share why conversations about end-of-life preferences can be just asimportant as the paperwork. Lisa and Lori provide tools participants can use to engage theirclients in these meaningful conversations.
Introduction to Our Speakers:
Lisa Pahl is co-creator of The Death Deck...
2023-08-2128 min
Best Life Best Death#96 How Is the End of Life Deck a Conversation Starter? - Lisa Pahl and Lori LoCicero, Co-Creators of The Death DeckLisa Pahl and Lori LoCicero met when Lori’s husband was dying, in his 40s. Together, they realized they could create a tool to help families and friends start conversations before it was too late. As Lori notes, “Why are we waiting until that [last] moment to talk about it… that’s when we don’t want to talk about it, that’s when it’s hardest to talk.” We need simple tools to get conversations going earlier in our lives and in ways that don’t feel overly heavy or overwhelming. That’s where the Death Deck and the EOL Deck come in...
2023-06-2828 min
While We're Still HereI Have a Wondering...Wanna Play a Game?Sometimes games can elicit emotions that are difficult to explain or recognize. Men play sports like golf or jog together, side by side, and can share deeply their thoughts and dreams, etc. Women have heart-to-heart conversations usually facing one another. A game can be a safe distraction for folks, and when the talk is around end of life, a game that aids the conversation of dying and death is called The Death Deck (thedeathdeck.com). Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl created The Death Deck. It is a huge deck of cards with topics and questions for an individual to...
2023-03-0213 min
Dying Your WayDying Your Way Interview with Lisa Pahl - The Role of Social Workers in End of Life CareHospice social workers provide little known or understood psycho-social support to patients and their families at the end of life. As part of an interdisciplinary team, palliative care and hospice social workers are your link to mental health support and relevant community resources. Listen to licensed clinical social worker Lisa Pahl break it all down. As co-creator of the Death Deck with Lori LoCicero, Lisa shares her passionate belief that peace at the end begins with meaningful conversations. Connect with Lisa Pahl here: Website: https://thedeathdeck.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedeathdeck
2022-04-2251 min
Dying Kindness14: Getting The Conversation StartedSure, it's important to talk about death and what we want. But how do you even begin this conversation? What if you're ready to talk but someone else is resistant? And what do we even need to talk about?
In this episode I interview Kate deBartolo from The Conversation Project, and Lisa Pahl and Lori LoCicero from The Death Deck. They share tools and personal stories that can help you get the conversation started, regardless of how comfortable (or uncomfortable) you and your loved ones are with the topic.
https://theconversationproject.org/
2022-01-1839 min
Best Life Best Death#17 Lori LoCicero - What Is the Game "The Death Deck"?Co-creator of The Death Deck, Lori LoCicerco describes how she and Lisa Pahl decided to bring conversations about death to the fore by making a game that helps anyone talk about “the most universal yet rarely talked about topic of all.”
2021-12-2317 min
Bury Me In NJSomewhere Over the RainbowThis week, we're sharing our conversation with Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl, creators of The Death Deck, a game and conversation tool consisting of 112 cards, allowing friends and family to share thoughts, stories, and preferences about life and death in a relaxed way.Lori and Lisa first met when Lori’s husband, Joe, was on hospice and Lisa was their hospice nurse. The two felt an immediate connection during that time, and after Joe’s passing, their healing sessions continued for more than 2 years, exceeding the typical timeframe of hospice aftercare. Beyond working through Lori’s own g...
2021-09-2152 min
Breast Cancer Conversations#121. Having the Cards Stacked In Your Favor Can Help With Difficult ConversationsLove the episode? Send us a text!In this episode we speak with Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl, LCSW. Together they are the co-founders of the Death Deck. A card game that helps people, couples, and families talk about end of life choices and wishes. Having experienced personal loss themselves, they've come together to ensure that others are as prepared as possible when it comes to their loved one's wishes at the end of life. We hear their personal stories, understand the role of hospice, and even play a few hands of cards ourselves. ...
2021-08-2226 min
The Beautiful Side of Grief15. The Death Deck | Lori LoCicero & Lisa Pahl "It's hard to imagine that playing a game about death can be fun, even hilarious. It is. It's an ingenious way to talk about the hard stuff without any awkwardness, formality, or weirdness." (BakerMom1). She's talking about the Death Deck, a new party game that lets you explore a topic we’re all obsessed with but often afraid to discuss. It’s guaranteed to tap into stories and ideas you’ve never heard your friends and family share before, and give you an experience you won’t forget! Join me as I chat with Lor...
2021-06-071h 02
Conversations on DeathThe Death DeckOn this super fun episode, I spoke to Lori LoCicero, a freelance writer, and Lisa Pahl, a Hospice Social Worker and ER Crisis Interventionist. They're both the creators of The Death Deck, a game and tool that allows friends and family members to open up and share thoughts, stories and preferences about life and death in a non-threatening and surprisingly fun way. We talked about the birth of their friendship, what went into The Death Deck's creation, some of our favorite cards, and how their lives were impacted by the creation of the game. Get ready for...
2020-06-1653 min
Death By DesignThe Death DeckTHE DEATH DECKThe Death Deck offers up thought-provoking questions with a large dose of humor to help take the taboo out of the topic of death. Unique among card decks and conversation tools, this witty game encourages players to share their thoughts and stories and gets people talking about personal preferences on life’s ultimate decisions in a non-threatening and surprisingly fun way.ABOUT THE CREATORSLori LoCicero is a freelance writer and the co-creator of The Death Deck. A creative storyteller and eternal optimist, Lori combines her personal stories of loss with her innate sense of humor to write about...
2020-04-1638 min
Death Talk PodcastThe Death Deck Creators: Lori LoCiero and Lisa PahlThe Death Deck is a card game that "encourages lively conversations and life-changing dialogue" on the topic of death. Today, I talk to the two founders of The Death Deck, Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl, LCSW. I played this game with 5 of my friends and I was surprised how engaged they were. It was fun too. More information is available on our website: http://deathtalkpodcast.com Connect with us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/deathtalkpodcast Connect with us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/deathtalkpodcast Connect with us on T...
2020-03-271h 05
The Death DiariesThe Death DeckOn this episode, I talk with The Death Deck founders Lisa Pahl and Lori LoCicero. Their motivation and desire to help people become comfortable with conversations about mortality and end of life wishes led to their partnership and creation of the game. Links: The Death Deck
2020-03-1327 min
The Bucket PodcastLori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl: The Death DeckDeath is not a game. Or is it? Listen to Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl talk about their bold new card game, “The Death Deck” and how it’s helping people have healthy conversations about dying — and living. From sample questions to poignant stories, they explain the reason they created the game and how they use humor and lively game-play to break down resistance and open up communication. Says Lori, “It’s so much easier to approach a parent or a spouse with a silly card game that has humor in it rather than sitting down and saying, ‘you know, we reall...
2019-12-0537 min
Dealing With My GriefA Grief Game: The Death Deck Creators, Lisa Pahl and Lori LoCiceroWhat happens when a widow establishes a relationship with the hospice social worker responsible for making her husband as comfortable as during his final days? They create a game designed to allow people to have tough conversations around death and dying, course! LORI LoCICERO Lori LoCicero is a freelance writer and the co-creator of The Death Deck. A creative storyteller and eternal optimist, Lori combines her personal stories of loss with her innate sense of humor to write about life and talk about death. She has written and directed independent films, documentaries, and a variety of...
2019-09-2557 min
engAGINGconversations's podcastThe Death Deck with Lori LoCicero and Lisa PahlHave you heard the phrase “the devil is in the details”? Well, THEY are right! Lori LoCicero learned the hard way. Lisa Pahl has learned from years of professional experience. Talking about end of life wishes ahead of time, makes things less stressful when death is near. Do you think you “have your affairs in order”? You may well not. There is a lot to consider about your own death. Lori and Lisa have created a game called The Death Deck to help you break the ice and start those difficult conversations with loved ones. And also get you...
2019-06-0246 min