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The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingThe Nuts & Bolts Of FreelancingIn this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the nuts and bolts of the freelance writing business - how to negotiate rates, red flags to look for, and other details. Also, the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the difference between "farther" and "further" while Loyd takes issue with the overuse and misuse of the word "unique". Take a listen. It's our most unique episode yet. 😏Have a comment or a topic you would like us to discuss? Drop us a line. Kelly's Reading RecommendationThe Memory Police, by Yok...
2025-03-2359 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingAn Interview With Writer Joe Crowe - Alternate Title: The Blithely Spirited BadonkadonkIn this episode of The Rouge Draft, Kelly and Loyd spend some time with special guest, Joe Crowe. Joe is a talented writer, editor, comedian, sci-fi geek, and professional wrestling connoisseur, as well as a long-time friend of Kelly and Loyd. In the wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the word “blithe” and why it should be more common while Loyd gripes about “badonkadonk"” not being a playable word in the New York TImes spelling bee. And, as always, they share their reading recommendations. Kelly’s RecommendationRadium Girls, by D.W. GregoryLoyd’s Recom...
2025-03-091h 05The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingAre Music Lyrics Literature?WE'RE BACK! After a lengthy hiatus, Kelly Rogers Flynt and Loyd McIntosh are back with a new episode of The Rough Draft. With the recent release of the new Bob Dylan biopic "A Complete Unknown," Kelly and Loyd thought it would be fun to discuss song lyrics in order to answer a serious question: are song lyrics literature. Also, in the Word Play segment, Loyd and Kelly discuss how to use the word "actually" without sounding like a pompous know-it-all, and, of course, we give our reading recommendations. We promise not to take 4 months off ever again!
2025-02-171h 04The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingInterview With Freelance Journalist Liz GaroneIn this episode of The Rough Draft: A Writing Podcast, Kelly and Loyd chat with noted freelance journalist Liz Garone. Liz contributes regularly to The Wall Street Journal, Time, The Washington Post, and other prominent news outlets, and shares her journey to becoming an in-demand, full-time freelance writer. Also, Kelly laments the loss of literary references in regular language and Loyd takes aim at the word “sadly.”
Kelly Recommendation
The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman
Loyd’s Recommendation:
No Way To Treat A First Lady, by Christopher Buckley
2024-10-2845 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingMagazines Are Making a Comeback! (And So Are Bar Jokes)On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the state of print publishing, especially magazines. Slick magazines hold a special place in their hearts, and even though the zine biz has taken it on the chin in recent years, they are happy to report that magazines — printed on actual paper — appear to be making a comeback.
Also, in the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the various forms of the Latin root “locutio” and Loyd shares his appreciation of a-guy-walks-into-a-bar jokes. (Note from Loyd: If you have a good bar joke, send it to me at therough...
2024-10-131h 03The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingThe Rough Draft: A Conversation With Doug SegrestOn this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd are joined by Doug Segrest. A longtime sports writer, Segrest is also a novelist and playwright with one book and three produced plays under hit belt. A native of Montgomery, Alabama, and a graduate of the University of Alabama, he spent 30 years as a newspaper reporter in Nashville and Birmingham before moving to the corporate world. He was recently named one of 50 Alabama Sports Writers Associations Legends, and he continues to cover sports as a co-host of "The Zone" Sunday nights on ABC 33/40 and through instant impact columns in...
2024-09-2657 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingOur Favorite Writers, a.k.a Putting The Kibosh On The KerfuffleOn this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd spend some time - a little too much time, actually - each talking about one of their favorite writers. Kelly chooses her favorite author Jane Austen and Loyd returns to familiar territory, George Plimpton. Also, Loyd and Kelly discuss the importance of forming relationships with sources in their journalism work, and they discuss possible reasons why the word “kibosh” was edited from one of Loyd’s recent high school football game stories. We do our best not to cause a kerfuffle, too.
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2024-09-151h 00The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingThe Book Or The MovieOn this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss some of their favorite books that have been adapted into movies. Kelly chooses Killers Of The Flower Moon by David Grann and the classic Harper Lee novel To Kill A Mockingbird. Loyd selects Up In The Air by Walter Kirn and perhaps the first realistic novel exposing professional football, North Dallas 40 by Peter Gent. Also, in the Word Play segment, Kelly takes issue with the word “basically” and Loyd suggests it’s time to retire to the acronym G.O.A.T.
Loyd’s Recomm...
2024-08-201h 02The Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingA Chat With Self-Published Writer Micah KoldingOn this episode of The Rough Draft, we actually have a guest! Kelly and Loyd spend some time with Micah Kolding, a self-published author and wearer of many hats, including ranch hand, lab assistant, cartoonist, marketing intern, and English teacher in South Korea. Here he talks about his self-publishing journey, his influences, and his writing process.
Also, Kelly springs a timed word game on the spot and Loyd fails miserably and, as usual, the hosts discuss books they're reading, and assignments they're working on, and offer their reading recommendations.
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Kelly - A...
2024-08-0859 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingTeaching The Art Of Writing: Don't Be Averse To Being GroovyIn this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss ways our education system can improve writing instruction, Kelly sets us straight on the difference between the words “adverse” and “averse” and Loyd makes a case for reintroducing “groovy” into everyday language.
Also, Kelly, a theatre reviewer for Broadway World, talks about the WORST play she’s ever reviewed!
Kelly's Recommendation: Burn Book: A Tech Love Story, by Kara Swisher.
2024-07-2156 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingTips For New WritersIn the second installment of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss their Top 10 tips for new writers. Also, Kelly literally has a problem with the incorrect use of the word “literally,” Loyd believes it’s time to retire the phrase “the {fill in the blank} community,” and Kelly opines on why George Plimpton is Mr. Rogers for adults. Trust us, this is a humdinger of a show!
Kelly’s Book Recommendation: Divine Might: Goddesses in Greek Myth by Natalie Haynes.
Loyd’s Book Recommendation: The Man in the Flying Lawn Chair: And Other Excu...
2024-07-0756 minThe Rough Draft - A Podcast About WritingPilot Episode - The Threat of AIIn the debut episode of The Rough Draft Podcast, Kelly Rogers Flynt and Loyd McIntosh - freelance writers, old friends, and occasional adversaries - discuss why the word "just" should cease to exist, argue over the common social media phrase "read that again", and mull over the threats posed by AI writing sources such as Chat GPT and others (seriously, what as Sports Illustrated thinking?).
Also, Kelly and Loyd offer their reading suggestions.
Kelly: Never Let Me Go, by Kazuo Ishiguro
Loyd: The Moscow Rules: The Secret CIA Tactics That Helped America Win...
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