Shows
Back2DifferentMichelle Caryn Paul - On the Rogue AgainSmoothly, professionally, I approach with "I really enjoyed your presentation on AI." Luckily, it's true, and Michelle gets that, so we had a great introduction, which led to lunch, a ping-pongy conversation, a friendship and this podcast. Wait until you hear about her foot and the subway door, her solo Odyssey in Asia, her lumpy bumpy road to her here and now.Michelle clarifies and illuminates each time she focuses on any idea. We are riding a tandem bike. But it's side-by-side, not front-and-back. Have a party with us, okay?2025-06-291h 13
Back2DifferentHeather Hansen O'Neill - Of Course It's Non-Linear!"Doesn't work up to expectations" was inscribed repeatedly on my report card. Heather's too. She's danced professionally, I coincidentally, and we both love it. We talk about raising thinkers, loving what is whether we like it or not, discovering and working the shift that makes us feel better, and moments of humanity.A community of two, old friends rediscovered, two people finding themselves in the same lifeboat and figuring out how to row, though not identically, together, and, of course, realizing that of course it's non-linear.Join us.Please.2025-04-151h 03
Back2DifferentJenlyn UNBN - Curiosity Becomes Audacity"You may have to wait to talk, but you never have to wait to listen." Every back2different podcast starts with a 5-10 minute story - the guest's answer to "How did you get here?" That's all we need to move forward together. Just notice and connect.Jenlyn UNBN and I travel together for an hour and explore grieving, "the gray zone," our core selves, circumstance and experience, sexuality, kidnapping, EMS service, shamanism, and "I cannot give from an empty cup."Tag along for a bit and ride with as as curiosity becomes au...2025-03-311h 07Back2DifferentSarah Elkins - "Land the plane, Sarah!"We had a wonderful journey together, Sarah and I, as we shared her blossoming, awakening, I guess, as an adult. As she says, "I found my voice at 40." A classically trained singer, she was invited to sing in a surf band her husband had started and suggested "I can't do rock and roll." Guess what happened next, right? Give us a listen, please, and find out why she was advised to "Land the plane, Sarah!"2025-03-061h 11
The Ugly American Werewolf in London Rock PodcastJeff Beck - Blow By BlowBy the mid-70s, Jeff Beck was a bit of an enigma. He started out as a blues player in The Yardbirds replacing Eric Clapton and sharing the stage for few shows with Jimmy Page. Then he formed The Jeff Beck Group with Rod Stewart as his lead singer and Ronnie Wood on the bass where the band tried to be more commercial. He created one of the great power trios with Beck, Bogert and Appice and while they were a strong live draw, they didn't get a lot of radio play. By 1975 Jeff, who was never one to...2025-02-271h 15
Back2DifferentAmy Gallie - Principals and PrinciplesI was never diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder. Of course, the label didn't exist until 1980, so I simply received more than one report card that said, 'Seems to have difficulties following direction." As a lifelong teacher, I often clashed with the administration, who struck me as hidebound and beset by a "let's not make waves" perspective. My biases.Amy Gallie has been a school administrator for much of her life. She's smart, candid, fun and loves, loves, loves children. We talk about single-gender classrooms, failing forward, the gap between teaching and administering, having at least...2025-01-071h 01
Back2DifferentVictor Acquista - Globs of EnergyI have always suspected that lots of planets lined up identically for Victor's and my births. We don't finish each other's sentences, but we do finish each other's paragraphs.Contemplatives, dogma, dynamism, solipsism, belief systems, impressions and projections, impersonation, human spirit progression (with a long gestation and difficult birth) gave us some things to talk about, and then we took a breath and forged ahead.Victor is a delight and a wonder, a gentle soul who shares with me the beckoning light of curiosity. Take a journey with a couple of Globs of Energy.2024-12-031h 05
Back2DifferentGina Mazza - We're Not here to Be StagnantI met Gina Mazza during an online conversation about creativity. Took us a bit of back-and-forth to get to recording, and then a few delays to mix and load. With every minute.She's had a variegated career - something we share. We speak on God and the church, meaning and work, and the evidence for a major evolutionary shift in human kind's consciousness. Join us as we agree that we're not here to be stagnant.2024-11-111h 10
Back2DifferentMaggie Jackson - The Islands of our KnowledgeVia my wonderful friend Craig James arrived Maggie Jackson. So here's a tiny sample of our journey together:The unease of uncertainty is actually a gift.Ambivalent CEOs are actually better performers.It's fear of uncertainty that sets you back, not uncertainty itself.Try on the Unknown.What does it mean to be human now that we are married to these technologies?That's just for starters. Come join us, please, as we explore the rich and wonderful topography that abides between The Islands of our Knowledge.2024-10-1759 min
Back2DifferentCarey Corr - I Thought a Lot OlderCarey Corr has a marvelous story. He is a film-maker and carries a boundless sense of curiosity and adventure. He's fearless and we share the excitement of new ideas alongside a deep suspicion of knowing as a way to live - it's embracing how little we know that gives us energy.Education, Laurel & Hardy, W. C. Fields, science fiction B movies, no holds barred as we realize that, each of us, as boys, realize that "I thought a Lot Older."2024-09-241h 12
Back2DifferentClarabelle Miray Fields - It Has to be RawI met Clarabelle Miray Fields on a forum about creativity and knew I'd need to listen more to what she had to explore. She was self-publishing when she was four, binding her own books using her mother's hole-punch and yarn. She writes speculative fiction, both prose and poetry, and we take a stroll through the land of creativity. She's thoughtful, wide-ranging and candid. And she firmly believes that for writing to grab us, It Has to be Raw.2024-08-3152 min
Back2DifferentGlenn Behenna - Distinctly AverageWe gathered each other through a mutual friend, Colin Smith. Glenn Behenna worked in the steel industry, as a member of the constabulary (a cop), went back to school, and now he is a Senior Lecturer and Senior Fellow at University of Wales Trinity St. David. He didn't hit his academic stride early, though as he says, "It must have been in there somewhere." We explore culture, society, education, government, "legislated inoffensiveness," change and hope. A couple of well-seasoned guys who are, after all, distinctly average.Have fun and enjoy the beauty, the poetry, of hi...2024-06-2358 min
Back2DifferentPeter Cook - Bring Their Brains to WorkMusic, toxic HR culture, confounded with structure, 'I cycled through the pandemic,' moral hazard and money to be made, exam strategies and rock songs, and then our conversation took off. How can you not like listening in on a conversation with Peter Cook, who wrote Sex, Leadership and Rock N 'RolI: Leadership Lessons from the Academy of Rock?We're each (and both) proponents of a world where jobs encourage people to bring their brains to work.2024-05-3049 min
Back2DifferentMichael Padurano - Showering in the DarkWe can be successful in business, outwardly merry, envied and admired. At the same time, we may be carrying a corrosive load of trauma, unhealed emotional and spiritual bruises that can lead to broken relationships, thoughts of suicide, and addictions both behavioral and chemical.Spend some time with Michael Padurano and me as we explore the pain that leads to showering in the dark, and the redemption of a healing oasis.2024-04-221h 10