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Office 365 DistilledEP158: Marijn in fantAIsyOK, the boys ramble on a bit about the money and about AI. The way we pay for SharePoint and M365 services and new ways to pay for Azure services then budgeting for your SharePoint services changes and increases as you are more successful with Copilot.But are we actually paying more or are things just changes... but then we got distracted... something that happens very rarely for Steve and Marijn... well... OK check it out and enjoy... and maybe get prompted for a few ideas and the odd Golden Nugget...2025-01-241h 15
Office 365 DistilledEP150: AI - Bull Shit or Hot Shit149 episodes of M365 Distilled took place before we arrived at Collabdays Hamburg! All Marijn had to do was get us a room to record in with a few friends. Well, he surpassed himself and got the main hall and a keynote session to record with the truly awesome people of Hamburg CollabDays on 31st August 2024.It was fun with about 100 people, just after the ice cream, the boys talked about AI and specifically Copilot with the awesome title: AI - Bullshit or Hotshit?It is a short episode with guests Sara Fennah and Martin Rovekamp j...2024-09-2332 min
AIToday LiveS06E75 - Algoritmes in de schaduw: de rol van AI in censuur - Marijn Markus (Capgemini)In deze aflevering van AIToday Live is Marijn Markus te gast, die zijn inzichten deelt over shadowbanning en de impact van kunstmatige intelligentie op sociale media. Hij bespreekt hoe algoritmes de zichtbaarheid van berichten beïnvloeden en de ethische dilemma's die hierbij komen kijken.Marijn legt uit dat shadowbanning de vrijheid van meningsuiting onder druk zet en belangrijke discussies kan onderdrukken. Hij biedt praktische tips voor gebruikers die met deze problematiek te maken hebben, zoals het analyseren van berichten en het strategisch posten.Deze aflevering biedt een kritische blik op de rol van A...2024-09-1648 min
Office 365 DistilledEP148: Igniting awareness for successThis is the last of the series of podcasts called the apologise series as Steve managed ot catch up with the programs recorded and published so hopefully we are back to 5 days from recording to publishing.Marijn read an article (Microsoft Teams increases collaboration in the modern workplace at Microsoft - Inside Track Blog)… it was not a podcast but real words and it created the idea of a podcast for the duo. Microsoft have been looking at how they can improve collaboration using their own tools and a process that has some alignment with ADKAR. St...2024-08-1948 min
Office 365 DistilledEP147: A bag full of Shit & a pink crossSo Marijn talks about indecision and the trouble in deciding on a Twix or not… and missed out on a Peated Yamazaki, depriving Steve of a chance to taste one of his favorite Japanese distilleries. In this second of the Apology series… So Steve, Anouck, and Marijn did Commsverse TV (https://www.youtube.com/@Commsverse/streams ) and in this episode we talk about all the things they learned including the longest and first case of remote working, that FAX is still a big business and ghost calls that Analysing software need to remove to get accurate figures…Spe...2024-08-121h 00
Office 365 DistilledEP146: An Obvious and Satisfying PodcastThis is the first of a new series of podcasts called the Apology Series… Life has been a little tricky over the last 3 months for Steve with a separation from my long-term partner, not having access to Max all the time and Moving house to the city of Antwerp, so enjoy the catch-up of podcasts in the coming days that we already recorded,,, Welcome to the Apology Series. Make changes Obvious, Easy, and Satisfying from James Clear's book Atomic Habits. The boys are provided with a slide from a conference, and they decide to apply some of Jame...2024-08-051h 04
Office 365 DistilledEP145: SharePoint Renovation & Elephant WhiskyOK, we talk about SharePoint and a question that Marijn received about Sorting our SharePoint Shit. You know the scenario, what do you do to help a company that Set up an M365 tenant, opened up SharePoint and made it available within 24 hours... recipe for disaster right... and then they call us in to help sort out the shitIn this episode, Marijn has a plan, and Steve helps him think it through as questions arise about what direction to take to sort three terabytes of content on a Tenant and turn it into a solid, stable c...2024-06-021h 05
Office 365 DistilledEP143: The Jenga Way in PolandPoland was a blast at Collab days a few weeks ago. Steve and Marijn spend time in this podcast looking at Jenga and how they used to consider governance risk in their workshops.Marijn recaps his SMART goals session, and each subject is finished with a Whisky—of course, two Polish whiskies, to be precise!2024-04-211h 01
Office 365 DistilledEP142: The Battle of the Intranet: Gloves Off!The Boys talk about the new gameshow “ IT Depends” which you can find here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcB3Ba6K6N3HMUbt6yVT1Bg and then.... 🎙️ Ladies and gentlemen, fight fans from around the world, welcome to the podcast showdown of the century! Tonight, we bring you a clash of titans that will shake the very foundations of the digital realm! In the blue corner, hailing from the land of traditionalists, we have the undisputed champion of news dissemination, the Sultan of Press Releases, none other than Marijn "The Publisher"!🥊 Marijn steps into the ring w...2024-03-241h 15
Office 365 DistilledEP140: Modern Wonders of the M365 WorldAs always the start is about our travels and community speaking events was from Miami to Bremen we talk about Tetsi flies and the rule of ‘Don’t look at the Boob’ when Steve knew it was the answer to another memory problem…The Boys talk about the new gameshow “ It Depends” which you can find here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcB3Ba6K6N3HMUbt6yVT1Bg After 15 minutes of community talk the boys went around the world… Ami Diamond posted a great LinkedIn article comparing M365 to the new wonders of the world. It was s...2024-03-021h 04
met Marijn op de bank#10 - Waarom introverte mensen eigenlijk meer zichzelf zijn dan wie dan ook (met Dian)S1A10: In deze aflevering zit ik met Dian op de bank. Dian is introvert en Marijn (denkt) dat hij juist een extravert is. Twee tegenpolen en toch al bijna 20 jaar vrienden. Dian is heel rustig en is liever thuis dan dat ze een feestje meepakt. Een duidelijke introvert dus, maar is dit eigenlijk wel zo? We komen erachter dat dit wederom niet zo zwart wit is als gedacht wordt en dat Marijn stiekem ook helemaal niet zo extravert is als hij dacht. En we komen tot een best wel mooie conclusie: introverte mensen zijn eigenlijk gewoon veel meer...2024-01-1638 minmet Marijn op de bank#9 - Over het leven in een dorp versus stad (met Maud)S1A9: We zijn terug na een kleine (feestdagen) break terug met de laatste drie afleveringen van de podcast! Allereerst aflevering 9 met Maud.
In deze aflevering zit ik met Maud op de bank. Het onderwerp is het leven in een klein dorp versus in een stad. We komen allebei uit een (klein) dorp en weten dus hoe het is om daar op te groeien. Hoe kijken we daar nu op terug en hoe ziet het leven in een stad eruit? Zouden we ooit weer terugkeren naar een dorp? En we hebben het over dialecten, en dan voornamelijk over hoe...2024-01-0943 min
Office 365 DistilledEP137: M365 distilled washback awards 2023Merry Christmas to every listener of M365, although we suspect that you will not listen to this before the 24th Dec, Monday's celebration day... but if you are listening to that, please accept the Best wishes for Xmas that Steve and Marijn sing as Episode 137 of M365Distilled kicks off.The boys give themselves 10 categories to find their best of the best for 2023... Check out what Steve and Marijn decide on the best Conference or speaking location, their best community contributor and, of course, the best Whisky they have drank this year.They discuss episodes...2023-12-221h 01
Office 365 DistilledEP 129: @ESPC with CoreView: 5 Pillars of cloud governanceWelcome to the second episode, live from #ESPC! We’ve got a couple of new guests joining us today: Kas Nowicka from CoreView and Ragnar Heil from Rencore.In this episode, we’re going to be dipping our toes into the five pillars of cloud governance: Cost management, Security baseline, Resource consistency, Identity baseline, and Deployment acceleration. Sounds like a lot of fun, right?Our host Steve talks about identity, which is great because he’s been struggling with his own identity for years. We’re hoping that by the end of this episode...2023-11-2831 min
Office 365 DistilledEP125: Miss Stilled and Sexy GovernanceThe Podcast will now be formally known as M365Distilled... the name the boys finally landed on after a few amusing alternatives as we introduce Misky365 and Miss Stilled.This is a strange podcast that takes a few statements from Darrell as a Service, which Steve refined into:No Adoption without User GovernanceBecause user Governance Drives AdoptionAdoption plus Governance is managed changeSo, Steve started a conversation, and the boys just talked about it... coming together with a little basic knowledge about Adoption and Governance and proving the above statements are the basis for Adoption...2023-11-121h 15
Office 365 DistilledEP123: From Pussy Galore to Apps GaloreSteve is in a mood and Marijn is suffering big time... We are trying to identify all the end-user apps that need governance and adoption and how much work is required. Marijn says all Outlook versions are the same and don’t need re-training, but Steve is being an arse and saying the difference is important.Marijn is slowly getting convinced to listen in and check how Steve bullies him into believing that he is right... yes, feel sorry for him.Steve says “ I do apologise, brother, I gave you a hard time” ... “But it was fun recordi...2023-10-261h 02
Office 365 DistilledEP122: Reflecting on The Power of FocusFirstly if you want to Governance at the South Coast Summit (join their workshop at Practical Microsoft 365 Baseline Governance – South Coast Summit ), it is Last chance folks...The Boys from Office365Distilled want to talk about focus, the ability for people to move the company forward through an understanding of goals, or the Viva Goals of the company.At the recent Collabdays in the UK, at the National Computing Museum, an excellent place that everyone should visit if they visit the UK and are in computing in any way forward.Looking at the def...2023-10-081h 11
Office 365 DistilledEP121: Goalong Governance docsFirstly if you want to Collab Days Poland (join their workshop at Practical Microsoft 365 Baseline Governance – ) So Marijn lost for the first round of the battle between the quick and powerful JSON v PowerApps @Helsinki but was magnanimous in his defeat. This is a great session and if you get chance to hear it them don’t miss it.Steve had a conversation this week about a mystery workflow that did not seem to have any documentation, that we could find… it prompted a need to think about how to define a process that ensured document...2023-09-171h 03
Office 365 DistilledEP119: Adopt Based on the size of your packageThe boys get distracted as always as the Autumn Speaker circuit comes alive. The conclude with Governance at the South Coast Summit (join their workshop at Practical Microsoft 365 Baseline Governance – South Coast Summit ) Recorded live at Marijn’s place, where the boys are constantly distracted by the world walking passed... Steve’s memory is again letting him down as he tries to remember the name of the artist he saw a week ago because the boys have been singing “Changes’ from Mr David Bowie since they suggested today’s subject.So, the subject is change, and specifical...2023-08-191h 10
Lindeboom De PodcastAflevering 9: 'Zet die PADDENSTOEL UIT!'We zijn er weer: Na uhm... te lang te zijn weggeweest hebben wij onze comeback gemaakt met weer een gloednieuwe aflevering! We praten over de efteling, paddenstoelen en over speculaas. Dacht je dat dat het enige was? ZEKER NIET! LUISTEREN DIE HANDEL!
-Tijs en Marijn, CEO's van LDP
(Stoor je je aan het Eftelingdeuntje van Tijs? Marijn ook..)2023-07-3127 min
Office 365 DistilledEP117: Steve and Marijn's Dream M365 jobThe boys get distracted for the first 10 minutes covering Their speaking events, Governance at the South Coast Summit (join their workshop at www.southcoastsummit.com ) and the pricing release of the Co-Pilot and value. They decide to read the Whiteboard and realise they have some subjects to discuss...A list on the whiteboard of Roles is associated with managing and running M365. Which role would you like to do and are the best at? Steve and Marijn run through the list, select their dream role in M365, and say how it works and why it might not... Che...2023-07-261h 09
Office 365 DistilledA Wee Dram #14 SCS - Why do we Need GovernanceOctober13th 2023 @SouthCoastSummit https://www.southcoastsummit.com/workshop/practical-microsoft-365-baseline-governance/ In this special Wee Dram which is primarily notification to join Steve and Marijn on a Governance workshop. Marijn is in the Mic Drop mood... check out his great maximum of 6 words responses on Governance.A quick boost of Marijn and Steve’s humour looking at Why we do Governance, How we do Governance and the problems associated with it.2023-07-2307 min
Office 365 DistilledEP116: Governance meets Change for New StreamIn this special podcast, we have changed a few things... The Intro does not blow your ears out at the start... You can win a place at our 5th Birthday celebration with a simple HashTag and learn about Governance and Change on New Stream... EP116 is full of great information and a Free Dinner. Finishing with a great idea generated by a 21 Year Old Whisky from our sponsor Secure-Mail-Merge by Alex Duggleby Steve has an idea that looks to combine your Governance plans with ADKAR and Marijn likes the picture, but we disagree with the Model and do...2023-07-161h 06
Office 365 DistilledEP114: Do 70% of VIVA projects fail?Wow, what a week, you can tell when Steve and Marijn have had a busy week because you get this very laid-back podcast where they discuss their Trips... and start with a Whisky Chat before moving on to talk about 70% of the project failing and deciding if it is Fake News.In this Podcast, we look at the truth behind the common assumption that 70% of projects fail and analyse if it is accurate and how you can take MS Viva and ensure that it is successful. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/do-70-change-management-projects-really-fail-simon-lewington/2023-06-031h 06
Office 365 DistilledEP113 by CloudAlly: The M365 backup backstory!The second of 3 podcasts sponsored by CloudAlly and provided 3 great whiskies to taste across the following 3 Episodes. Today we are speaking to Murrey Moceri, the Partner Account Director from CloudAlly, a man of the world who hails from Seattle and had flown into London from Sri Lanka and then chose to speak with Marijn and Steve on Office365Distilled.Information from www.cloudally.com Follow up use sales@cloudally.com We have anecdotes, horror stories and some background on how CloudAlly have saved people’s business but mostly about the common sense around backup needs and re...2023-05-261h 06
Office 365 DistilledA Wee Dram #13: Harvard’s Information OverloadMarijn Confirms that he can read!! OK, I could not resist that, the power of being the Office365Distilled producer and being able to publish the content that we both produce.Never having enough information is bad... but unlike Whisky sometimes too much information can be just as stressful and causes problems of a different kind.... thinking about it, too much Whisky might also cause problems of a different kind. Anyhow...Check out Marijn’s view on Information Overload from the recent Harvard Review paper.2023-05-2413 min
Office 365 DistilledA Wee Dram #12: Catalyst IDEA framework E=EMPOWERMarijn moves from Inspiration and Design to Empowering your organisation for Digital transformation. Following the Microsoft IDEA framework for digital transformation. E is for Empower and Marijn looks at how you can empower your audience through the development of a model either digital or Paper-based plan for awareness of your new digitally transformed organisation.This very much supports the idea of ensuring your organization sees the value in your business transformation story by viewing visual assets and immersive experiences—promoting buy-in and getting alignment on commitments.2023-04-1610 min
Office 365 DistilledEP110: Boutique Business Needing Content ComplianceSteve and Marijn are joined today by a Guest who brings many questions about UK financial compliance. In this episode, we wanted Laura Madden to tell us what her customers need from their content management. We investigate solutions for typical problems the UK small business financial industry needs from a cloud service.Marijn dives in immediately, talking about some cool solutions, but soon understands that small business needs their cloud solution to deliver good value... maybe best describe them as cheap... So, we work on solutions for auditing, controlling, and tracking content and information that are all ou...2023-04-081h 11
Office 365 DistilledEP107: XLA delayed by Valentines dayAre SLAs just Secrets, Lies and Assumptions? Do we fudge the KPIs to show we have excellent delivery? It’s possible, but XLA’s are more difficult to fool. The boys are talking about experience and happiness on this podcast that defines and describes XLA’s, eXperience Levels Agreements and how they fit into the picture of SLA and OLA.Valentine’s day caused some delays as it fell on a regular recording night, so Steve and Marijn had to delay swapping Vantine gifts, but we did that on this podcast. But the delay revives some magic, and the Boys...2023-02-261h 12
Office 365 DistilledEP104: Entering Listopia the world of ListsSo Happy New Year from Marijn and Steve is the first thing that comes up with a review of the Advents podcasts and a big thanks for getting us close to Marijn downloads target of 15,000 downloads this year.A quick 10-minute review of the people we met, the subjects we covered in December before hitting the subject of the Podcast Lists.... and some examples for useMark Kashman, on his blog did a release just before Christmas showing a personal list he created that he uses to track the people he meets and the socks...2023-01-081h 04
Office 365 DistilledAdvent Dec 21st: Yammer has stories Like Steve and MarijnMarijn explains Yammer’s Storylines and Stories because he loves them both. He makes a good point; this creates an opportunity for every individual to join the company community, which is essential in today’s working life as we have less chance to connect and communicate across the business.2022-12-2211 min
Office 365 DistilledAdvent Dec 19th: Marijn goes SharePoint pages mad with a Golden NuggetMarijn has been using Steve’s ideas again and wants to tell everyone how he is tracking the questions on his SharePoint site about the change ad adoption project he is working on.
Steve Does not mind because it is one of his brilliant ideas... 2022-12-2006 min
Office 365 DistilledAdvent Dec 17th: Marijn goes slow, so Steve does all Microsoft Etiquette in 90 seconds!!Meeting Etiquette from a few Microsoft Screenshots identified some great points for improving your meeting habits and accessibility. But Marijn goes into that talking mode where we get unfocused, and storytelling voice kicks in... so Steve takes over.
All Microsoft’s Meeting room etiquette in 3 minutes!!!2022-12-2009 min
Office 365 DistilledAdvent Dec 3rd: Humbug and Repeatable TasksMarijn becomes scrooge and talks about Planner... Steve tells marijn about Humbugs, and then they talk about repeatable tasks... This is a really cool Golden Nugget that uses the same repeat meeting code to put regular tasks in place for those daily operational tasks.
Marijn learns what advent calendars were before you got chocolate or Whisky in your advent daily gift.2022-12-0306 min
GenZ TalksABORTUS: een mooi recht of iets triests?In deze aflevering bespreken Tom, Milou en Marijn over het recht op abortus. Wie dacht dat deze discussie er eentje uit het verleden was, heeft het mis. In Amerika is het landelijk recht op abortus afschaft, terwijl in Nederland juist de mogelijkheden op abortus toenemen: de bedenktermijn is geschrapt en de abortuspil wordt verkrijgbaar bij de huisarts. Ook spreken steeds meer mensen zich uit. Een bekend voorbeeld hiervan is de jaarlijkse ‘Mars voor het leven’, waar duizenden mensen zich uitspreken tegen abortus.
Tim, Milou en Marijn spreken met elkaar door over de framing bij deze discussie, voor- en nadelen van een...2022-11-1640 min
Office 365 DistilledEP102: A busy day at the OfficeThe boys reminisce about their last months of work and explain the issues, and effectively do what they do best… which is talk… after all, they are sitting at a bar enjoying a relaxing end-of-day drink… Office365Distilled is about two guys standing at a bar talking crap… well this podcast is proving that definition right!Wendy, the dog, is active tonight and wants to get involved…We originally wanted to talk about loop… but Marijn decided he will play interviewer and keep the conversation technical, and we have the Life of a Consultant in action.2022-11-141h 08GenZ TalksZijn we VERSLAAFD aan de OVERHEID?In een nieuwe aflevering van GenZ Talks hebben Marijn en Tom het over de vraag: zijn we verslaafd aan de overheid? Arendo Joustra, hoofdredacteur van de Elsevier, stelde afgelopen maand dat Nederlanders verslaafd zijn geraakt aan de overheid. “Als we als burger een probleem hebben, kloppen we aan bij de overheid en die moet het dan maar oplossen. We leren niet meer om zelfredzaam te zijn en onze eigen problemen op te lossen'', stelt hij. Marijn en Tom gaan in deze aflevering met elkaar in gesprek over dit onderwerp. Wat vind jij? Zijn we verslaafd aan de overheid? Laat het on...2022-10-3131 min
Lindeboom De PodcastAflevering 9: "De komst van DE WOLF!'We zijn er weer!! In deze splinternieuwe aflevering bespreken we de laatste nieuwtjes van de week, bewijst Marijn wederom dat hij een slecht geheugen heeft, word Tijs boos op zijn koekje en praten we samen over de komst van de wolf! En...... SEIZOEN 2 NADERT!! Nog eventjes en dan komen wij terug in een nieuw jasje.... maar daarover later meer....
Veel luisterplezier!
-Tijs en Marijn2022-10-3137 min
Office 365 DistilledEP100: The Lowest one YetRecorded live from The Ageas Bowl or, more specifically, the Hilton hotel at the Rose Bowl, Southampton, Hampshire.It sounds like the record sleeve from a 1970 rock album, which is a good description of what Steve and Marijn did on a quiet Thursday afternoon during the Ignite 2022 Microsoft Conference Day at the South Coast Summit. This podcast recorded live was a great success providing the audience that Marijn and Steve sometimes miss when recording in Steve’s office on a Tuesday evening.Check it out as the 100th birthday party edition takes shape, and the audi...2022-10-281h 09GenZ TalksMICHAEL PILARCZYK over jongeren, dromen, spiritualiteit en rijkdomIn deze aflevering is Michael Pilarczyk te gast. Michael is onder andere bekend van zijn boeken Master Your Mindset en Je Bent Zoals Je Denkt. Het werd een bijzonder gesprek tussen Marijn en Michael. Ze hadden het uitgebreid over de mentale gezondheid van jongeren. Waarom gaat het daar zo slecht mee en hoe zien zij de toekomst voor zich? Daarnaast is een vaak gehoorde kritiek op Michael dat zijn boeken te “zweverig” zijn, maar is dat wel zo? Is spiritualiteit zweverig? Veel mensen halen tegelijkertijd veel inzichten uit inspirerende mensen zoals Michael. Een andere kritiek is dat Michael makkelijk prat...2022-10-2557 min
Office 365 DistilledA Wee Dram #7: Catalyst IDEA framework I=InspireMicrosoft IDEA structure for Digital transformation is supported by a web site and full program documentation. Marijn starts with ‘I ‘ from I.D.E.A., the Microsoft Catalyst IDEA framework.‘I‘ stands for Inspire, and in this wee dram, he takes you through the 4 steps to success with inspiration and understanding of the customer’s expectations for the process, business expectations and what their next step might be.Look to the future and prepare for Marijn’s next Wee Dram on this subject... Design.2022-09-2415 min
Office 365 DistilledEP98 by Braeburn: The End User workshops Pt2The podcast where Steve has a great idea on site names and waffles on without a conclusion.Where Marijn says, ”Sorry, keep going I will interrupt you later” and then “ Hold on and let me continue” and it is decided Marijn can interrupt as much as he likes but Steve has to do as he is told…Our Sponsor Braeburn Whisky for this episode gets a great mention https://braeburnwhisky.com/ The boys start on the Roadmap workshop that defines the order of products that will be released and feeds back to the team what orde...2022-09-081h 08
Office 365 DistilledEP97: Workshops that Define M365 Pt1Marijn is excited about his Envisioning sessions to set up the company on a journey. Still, during the discussion, we wonder if it might not get people excited when it could be several months before they get to try anything. So, whilst very important, timing how you communicate the company vision might not be the first workshop you do. However, starting to set expectations at the C-Level and Senior management level might be a good idea.Starting with the infrastructure workshop, they get hooked up in discussions about the naming of tenants (we are still not sure w...2022-08-251h 07
Office 365 DistilledEP96: Exploring Value in Viva GoalsKeeping Change and Adoption Real: The Workshop ... Come and see us live this year...South Coast Summit: October 14th 2022 Tickets:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/keeping-change-and-adoption-real-1-day-workshop-tickets-359518869617M365 Conference – Las Vagas: December 9th Register:https://www.m365conf.com/#!/workshop/Keeping%20Change%20and%20Adoption%20Real:%20The%20Workshop/5553And on the podcast...Steve and Marijn kick off their Summer podcasts with a quick check on their Vacations and a Proud Dad tells you about his daughter obtaining her Degree and the graduation partiesMar...2022-08-061h 02
Office 365 DistilledEP95 by Braeburn: Summertime games with MS TeamsThis is the link to the Brainstorm Infographic used in the podcast, and at the end of the page is the link to buy a bottle of the great whisky we taste in this podcast, sponsored by Braeburn Whisky.BrainStorm - 33 Ways To Unlock More Software Value.Steve and Marijn took this sheet and pulled numbers from a bag to select random values to apply to the Values sheet provided by Brainstorm Inc. Use Polls: Marijn immediately thinks Dancing Poles and Steve reminds every one of their brilliant ideas to create a G...2022-07-221h 00
Office 365 DistilledEP94: Transforming Hire to Retire with M365After talking about recently attended events we learn that Marijn likes only soft things against his skin, but the boys resist the opportunity for a fun discussion on this fact. They talk about the new news around AD and AAD groups where AAD groups can now be nested.There is disagreement about the copying of profiles and if the AAD groups also get copied across to new users based on another user... Steve thought not and Marijn started to doubt... but from a quick lookup it appears there is a user template option now available and some M...2022-06-251h 08GenZ TalksOver weggaan bij STUDENTENCORPS en HOT GIRL SUMMER-LIJSTIn deze aflevering hebben Marijn en de nieuwe host Milou het over het studentencorps. Veel geslaagden staan nu voor de keuze: ga ik bij een studentenvereniging? En zo ja, welke? Ook ouders buigen zich over de vraag of hun kinderen daar wel goed aan doen. Het studentencorps staat meer dan ooit onder vuur. Marijn en Milou hebben zelf ervaringen bij het corps en hebben het samen over de voor- en nadelen van lid worden. We zijn benieuwd wat jouw beeld van het corps is na het luisteren van deze aflevering.2022-06-2036 min
Office 365 DistilledEP93: Discussing the Vibe of your M365 ProjectWe identify quickly that Marijn is likely to suffer a little simply because of a high-sarcasm level within the evil mind of Steve during the recording. Steve sends his apologies!!Names of Internets got a little time which represents the point about style that the team use for the project. The Style, tone of voice, graphics, and word choice helps set the style of the project, training, look and feel etc. So often the name chosen will drive the style.Some thoughts on how the project is linked to the corporate brand, but the best adv...2022-06-121h 05
Office 365 DistilledEP92: MS Teams the One-Stop-Hub for ApplicationsGlasgow summit and Commsverse get a mention Marijn is convinced that MS Teams as a hub is the way to go to the point that he even misses the ‘It Depends’ joke that he keeps mentioning. Steves. Sarcasm is evident throughout the podcast, but Marijn defends it well.The devil is in the detail and Steve is not sure that the app is ready and counters many arguments that Marijn puts in and event Steve is beginning to see some sense but the strategy does need some development and yet again suggests that this conversation is ahe...2022-05-291h 03
Office 365 DistilledEP89: Adoption driven by Focused UsabilityMickey Mouse takes the front of the stage on EP89 with a business diagram that looks at Collaboration (face) Content (right ear) and Communications (left ear). The model identifies the core functionality of Content, Collaboration & Communication with the key tools being Exchange, SharePoint Online and MS Teams.Steve uses the word Personae and Marijn wonders if he is ill. Steve has not always been a believer in the default view about personae but in this podcast, he explains that like a complex whisky there is value in personae when the audience value is understood. He goe...2022-04-161h 05GenZ TalksGIDEON EVERDUIM over racisme en Black Lives MatterDeze week een interessant gesprek tussen Gideon Everduim en Marijn en Boaz over Black Lives Matter, racisme, de grens van een grapje en racisme en nog veel meer! Marijn en Boaz probeerden vooral beter te begrijpen waar het gevoel van onderdrukking vandaan komt en waarom sommigen zich racistisch behandeld voelen. Verder vroegen ze zich af: slaan we door met overal meer inclusiviteit en diversiteit creëeren of er is er daadwerkelijk een probleem?2022-04-1143 min
Office 365 DistilledEP88: Where Chat meets EmailChats are shorter because they already have context but for emails, you often must provide the context so that people can understand the message.Policies do need to be thought through about external access for Chats. MS Teams and channel chats are OK as invitees are created as external users but not for Chats.Marijn outlines the email problems with emails and the problems of losing control and treating the email string as a conversation instead of having… a real conversation.Worth thinking about email as evidence of a decision made. Chat can be l...2022-04-061h 01
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VEEL LUISTERPLEZIER!2022-03-1100 min
Office 365 DistilledEP83: Spirit of Barcelona - Maturing DesireSteve and Marijn continue their journey of shorter discussions on ADKAR focusing on this session on Desire. Within the spirit of Barcelona high on the boy’s mind, this episode is based on the ideas from the Barcelona tapes but finished in Marijn’s front room. Make sure you catch the Postscript at the last minute when Marijn encapsulates ADKAR it is very cool 2022-03-0622 minGenZ TalksDe mentale gesteldheid van jongerenIn deze nieuwe podcast willen Marijn en Boaz jongeren aan het denken zetten. In deze aflevering praten Marijn en Boaz met Christophe, Susanne en Benito over de nieuwe documentaire ‘Generation C: A Cry For Help’ over de mentale gesteldheid van jongeren. Wat houdt mentale gesteldheid precies in? Wat heeft daar invloed op? En hoe zien we de toekomst voor ons?2022-02-2543 min
Office 365 DistilledEP79: Live from Barcelona - PP in the sunComing to you live from the beach in Barcelona, Steve and Marijn are trying to wrap their heads around first principle thinking.
They talk about Primero Principios (PP) and the cause and effect reasoning to get to the core beliefs about a product. Of course Marijn is trying to overcomplicate things.2022-02-2411 min
Office 365 DistilledEP78: The four questions that Drive a Migration strategyThe first step is to define the migration strategy that ensures you have the User Story associated with the content, locations, and final resting places so that everyone understands the plan that will take several months.Marijn points out that not migration is a migrating strategy and one to consider, although not migration leads to come complexity on the roadmap.Stave points out that the tools are not about Migration, and they agree the scope is about moving active content from the old technology and location into the new Cloud-based storage toolsMigration...2022-02-191h 09
Office 365 DistilledEP77: Back to Basics - Change your thinking to Lists and DataStarting with a conversation about music and movies Marijn and Steve suddenly realise that it is supposed to be a technical podcast with a dose of whisky… not film music.As they realise this and move across to the podcast subject of looking at the Back-to-Basics of data in SharePoint online.Steve pushes listeners to think about how they process data and make it available as data.From a Change and Adoption basis, we teach how to manage documents when we need to decide on the form that the data is stored before ju...2022-02-131h 00
Office 365 DistilledEP76: Back to Basics: Intranet is relevance deliveredSteve is not confused by his dyslexia of saying this is episode 67 at all, it might be down to the Uncle Nearest the boys shared as a winter warmer after coming in from the cold.All this before talking about M365 Chicago, mentioning Commsverse https://www.commsverse.com/ again in June same place, and Steve and Marijn turn up on a few of the social photos on the web site.Steve tries to explain to Marijn why his view on Internet is a little screwed and has changed over the years and yes Steve gets d...2022-01-231h 08
Office 365 DistilledEP75: Back to Basics: Information Architecture with content typesMarijn and Steve fail miserably to define content types with a complex 'deep' example first time around but eventually Steve talks about his favourite subject ‘naked Chocolate’ and once you hear this you get a simple definition about what a content type is.The basics are covered to talk about re-usable metadata and then move across to the value of being able to identify specific content across large number of sites. Steve gets pedantic (surprise surprise) about how CT’s are synchronized and copied as a separate object with a link and the value of this in search...2022-01-081h 10
Office 365 DistilledEP74: Looping the ribbon around Microsoft’s 2021 presentsMarijn and Steve open their Christmas presents from Microsoft and peek of what’s cool and what’s cooler. They touch on the complexity of collaboration, the growth of Adoption and the fact that Compliance is the ugly Christmas sweater that is a little nerdy and growing more complex. Marijn talks about Socks and Beanies with fairy dust on as he talks about the gift if the Microsoft List before discussing if he would walk around with a Scrotum beanie label on his head. Conclusion is that Lists are cool and going to sub-zero levels of coolness.Th...2021-12-241h 19
Office 365 DistilledEP73: Plan-to-Evolve M365 Adoption with constant improvementMarijn goes Retro in this podcast (quoting Steamy Windows & Mrs Robinson) around how to Iteratively Evolve your M365 installation for the business. Steve #ScrewsUp and tells you a story to help you not do the same and then introduces the concept ‘Plan to Evolve’. This is a process for constant growth and improvement across the business and organisation for M365.Bringing together Baseline Governance and Plan to Evolve will put in place your rise to Rockstar status in your Microsoft 365 project regardless of where you are in your Collaboration journey.Plan to Evolve supports the adopti...2021-12-121h 04
Office 365 DistilledEP72: MOCA 2.0, Adoption tools with hidden depthsThere is a new MOCA 2.0 framework from Microsoft and Marijn thinks we should do a re-visit. Steve thinks he is right because there are hidden depths that folks need to be aware of. This new Adoption toolset is at the next level building perfectly on the first release.EP72 is really Steve and Marijn standing at the bar and shooting the breeze. With lots of diversions and bar level humor (you have been warned) Steve identifies the subtle levels of change in the MOCA framework that takes it over and above a framework of telling you...2021-11-281h 09
Office 365 DistilledEP71: SAFe Agile M365 planning with T-ShirtsMarijn has 2 subjects for discussion in Episode 71. Intranet, using Communications sites to create an ‘intranet’ and the SAFe AGILE process ( SAFe = Scaled Agile Framework ). So, they start with T-Shirt sizes and Steve goes onto explain how T-Shirt sizes allows for an AGILE approach to corporate planning and delivering against a vision in a driven direction. Marijn loves the concept of using Dinosaurs to plan your Microsoft365 roll-out… an interesting podcast!Steve admits towards the end of the podcast that he is the last person in the world to create a Spotify playlist and the boys talk abou...2021-11-111h 03
Office 365 DistilledEP70: Steve and Marijn build a Transformation TeamMarijn and Steve look at the bigger picture of adoption and transformation and specifically the roles required to deliver Adoption successfully. Assuming the Design, Migration, Change & Adoption and Run stages they build a matrix of the roles and responsibilities required for success. We consider the people and problems that need to be considered at the start. Stakeholders, C-Level, Middle management all become part of the change leadership whilst Architects, Developers Helpdesk, Security, and the configuration team can develop design documentation and use these to define the system builds.2021-10-231h 15
Office 365 DistilledEP67: Gearing up for Commsverse 2021Steve and Marijn talk about their first Face to Face conference in over a year, this is Commsverse…Times may be uncertain, but one thing remains true. There’s a simple power in people coming together. That is why we are committed to delivering an in-person conference this Year. Commsverse is a community conference organised by technology enthusiasts for enthusiasts.We are a laser focused technical conference dedicated to enabling Microsoft Teams for medium to large enterprises. We are the event where the best minds in the business gather to share their expert knowledge and experi...2021-09-031h 24
Office 365 DistilledEP64: SharePoint Adoption is improved by great pagesAs always there is a hint of rudeness with discussions on how Marijn picks the perfectly sized cigar, but as it is a podcast the joke from Steve about where the cigar goes is lost on the audience.But then the background to the podcast about setting up those pages is discussed. Not defining the information that needs to be displayed but focusing on the tips and tricks to building and managing pages… the main 8 pieces of content.We talk about Dear jeff and how he will be taking our suggestions and immediately adding them to...2021-07-171h 16
Office 365 DistilledEP63: M365 Content Architecture and reasons Digital transformation fails.A split decision on subjects for Episode 63 sees Steve and Marijn bring both their ideas together. Looking at the key structures that build content architectures, Sites and Structures, Governance and Processes combined with Marijn’s thoughts on the 5 reasons that Business transformation fails and looking at how you can plan for failure and identify the solutions for success.Opinions vary in this podcast with the usual disagreement on Architecture coming first but we hope the different opinions, thoughts and discussions help you work out what’s best for you.The boys disagree on the readability of UR...2021-07-041h 06Office 365 DistilledEP62: A blend of M365 Secure Score, Commsverse and JapanHave you set up Secure Score?? Office365Distilled takes a high level look at improving your secure score and the big items that you can implement to move your score from the low percentile to more than 60%.“but how does this effect the user?” Is a question that Steve and Marijn cover. We do know that adding security is a balance with the inconvenience cause with additional authentication and speed reduction through encrypting content etc. Mark Vale and Martin Boam creators of Commsverse join us to provide some background about how this Hybrid conference is design...2021-06-221h 02
Office 365 DistilledEP60: Measuring Work and ROI with the Collaboration RoadmapSteve and Marijn dig down into collaboration for this special episode of the Offcie265 Distilled podcast. The 60th Episode meaning 60 subjects discussed and 60 whiskies tasted.30+ years ago you only had the ability to share a network drive holding files you and the team needed. Today you have co-authoring, Sharing, Document templates, Improved search capability, live sharing of content and integration of voice, Video and Content.We look at the Corporate Collaborative Roadmap and route your organization needs to take along with the investment of tools, time, and resources to move forward.How do yo...2021-05-241h 02
Office 365 DistilledEP59: The epic pissing contest between SPO and MS TeamsThere are a lot of things to discuss with regard to your Collaboration journey and which tools should be used for what is a key Decision. Steve and Marijn get down and dirty checking out two of the applications SPO (SharePoint Online) and MS teams. It goes a little like this:00:00:14 SteveKI kind of hate this whole notification thing in Ms teams. Okay.00:00:21 MarijnProbably because you're not using it in the right way.00:00:26 SteveOkay Mr. high and freaking Mighty then why? What am I doing wrong?0...2021-05-091h 07
Office 365 DistilledEP57: Getting distracted about Collaboration TrainingSubscribe for more Steve and Marijn by clicking YouTube link here: In Episode 57 of Office365Distilled:#OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 discuss top items to teach anyone how to Collaborate#OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 Ask you to Tell us your thoughts on the podcast#OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 Discuss what's in a name when the hidden 'Spaces' became 'Moka' which was launched as 'Boards' and is Project Moka now finished?#OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and...2021-04-1157 min
CodeKlets[S2E2] Marijn Koesen over Home AutomationShow NotesMarijn Koesen is werkzaam als software ontwikkelaar/architect bij Werkspot. Maar in zijn vrije tijd besteed hij veel tijd aan IoT en Home Automation. Deze aflevering vertelt Marijn ons hoe hij tegen IoT aankijkt en wat hij daarmee heeft gedaan in zijn huis.Met hostSaber Karmous - LinkedIn TwitterPauline Vos - LinkedIn Twitter Pauline-Vos.nlMarijn KoesenMarijns site - linkTwitter - @marijnkoesenOnderwerpen00:00:29 Intro 00:14:00 Cultuurverschillen 00:25:00 Home Automation & de stack 00:34:00 Wat wel en niet te automatiseren? 00:37:06 Hoe doe je presence detection?...2021-04-071h 55
Office 365 DistilledEP56: Fantastic Features for MS TeamsSo do you want the Famous Office365Distilled.com opening “HHHhhhheeeeyyyyyy Marijn’ as a ring tone?And as mentioned in the podcast… 'e' vIHarqang, ghojwI'pu' qeylIS, The boys hook into the simple task of Saving or Opening documents in Microsoft 365 and conclude that it has not changed in 30 years and still it’s difficult to open a document unless you recently accessed it.They look at the new All document update on the home page and how now it is more than the most recent 15 documents. It provides a bunch of extra stuff about the d...2021-03-2958 min
Office 365 DistilledEP55: Dave knows because of MS Viva TopicsIn this episode, the boys start with cars and Marijn still learning about his new motor car and how long it takes to learn all about the different controls. They remind everyone that their new Whisky@Ease YouTube channel has launched https://youtu.be/8m8clnpRtsk?sub_confirmation=1 They report back on the speaking session that has not happened at the point of recording but went well at the time of the mix down!!!The subject is Viva which of course is built on the release notes of cortex and its been really coo...2021-03-141h 12
Office 365 DistilledEP54: Achieving Real Value for MS teamsThe Guys throw in the first advert for the Whiskay@ease channel, which is on YouTube. Just search Whisky@ease to see Steve and MarijnShout out for the March teams Summit and the Omaha365 User Group lunchtime sessions where Steve and Marijn have slots to speak.Steve realizes that he should not trust everything he hears because he believed that you could only have 30 channels, but the reality is 200+. Always confirm your information.UPDATE: If you want to see all the MS Teams previews as they release then Admin Te...2021-02-281h 04Office 365 DistilledEP52: The Big Three Adoption PropositionsSteve and Marijn start with Formula 1 and the changes this season, which are about restricting resources so that to win you must make everything count. ‘making everything counts’ makes Steve think about what specific functionality in the core apps, Outlook, SPO and MS teams deliver the most significant value.Marijn explains that he has moved to the dark side on the side of the user. All because they have cookies. Marijn shouts out that he will be on Blame the end-user video and the boys call out about the people they are collaborating with.Steve eventu...2021-01-311h 01
Office 365 DistilledEP51: Scoops of MOCA for the workplaceThey talk about virtual events and how repetitive they have become because they are all the same. Then they remind us that Ignite the Spring event has been scheduled for March.The boys lower the tone a little by suggesting that we only attend meetings Partly dressed and take the session with a twinkle in the eyeThen there is a hint of the new WhiskyAtEase YouTube channel to be launched soon as Steve and Marijn got together over the holidays to record the first Whisky Journey across Scotland. Watch this space.Finally f...2021-01-171h 07
Office 365 DistilledEP50: The Value of M365 Maturity with a practical productivity scoreThe Guys continue their conversation when the Microphones turn on about their failed Wish.com purchases… leads nicely into a talk about Quality and level of value…So there are definitions of maturity for M365 which starts at 100 and moves through 5 levels 100 to 500. Steve works through the Differences and Definitions and the boys look to understand the people who will drive maturity…The 25-year-old millennial who drives change because they need new tools and don’t want to work with old tools that have been around for 20 years.Steve gets a little his...2020-12-201h 12
Office 365 DistilledEP49: Transformation Acronyms and the forgotten WhiskyStart with a technical discussion on recording the podcast before Marijn gets into some strange and good news.Jon, Shaun, and Matt get a mention for their Microsoft Refresh YouTube show about new productsSteve shouts out that he focuses on the latest news from Microsoft and how companies forget that technology depreciatesMarijn spills the beans and… Confesses he might be wrong about Sway… he received a Sway and he admits his adoration for a well crafted communication… Marijn admits he is in denialInevitably the technical conversation turns to...2020-12-061h 08
Office 365 DistilledEP48: A suspicious weasel and our Christmas wish listFirst subject is about ‘The Week that was’ and Steve talks about an approach to migrating intranet content and at a high-level what approach to take.Cortex released the first iteration SharePoint Syntex and Marijn makes a commitment to collaborate with himself to get a great understanding of the new products and direction that Cortex is taking.Then Steve and Marijn look at the upcoming releases and taking a few each explain why it has value to the work we are doing now or just because it’s coolMarijn predictably starts with the Ob...2020-11-221h 00
Office 365 DistilledEP47: Michelangelo and the 5 steps to collaborationMarijn describes his 7-minute wake up with Google and his shower fantasy around Google Routines before realizing that this podcast had started.Being in lockdown means that you get two whiskies tasted at the end…Eventually, Steve asks the questions ‘How do we collaborate?’ and stopped Marijn using the standard response ‘It depends’ Marijn takes a customer from Happy to Fear to Content and AmazedConsidering how to collaborate the tools are discussed but are ‘How to Collaborate’ and is it Co-authoring, voyeurism or collaboration… or even stalking…Points to consider when th...2020-11-111h 05
Office 365 DistilledEP46: ‘AD-OP-SHUN’ and “OCK-UN-TOSH-UN” Both challenging!Where Marijn tells everyone to ‘grab themselves’ (when he means 'hold on a second') whilst he works out the name he wants to give a shout out to!! The Adoption and Change Management teams Europe User Group. Marijn name drops galore but we love their online sessions talking about PROSCI and ADKAR. ACMteams.com is simpler than the full name…MS Teams requires a different type of adoption so the boys discuss why and Steve explains it is based on complexity and Marijn adds the point that the users really need to change the way they work when movi...2020-11-011h 01
Office 365 DistilledEP45: The Book of News - Swedish StyleAmongst the items talked about before the guys do a little Swedish are:Whisky@Ease is a new podcast channel from the boys reversed from Office365 with 80% Whisky and 20% tech. Just for those that value the lifestyle of Work hard - Play hardMarijn comes up with an EPIC tag line for Whisky@ease… longer than War and Peace when Steve shares the more accurate line of www.WhiskyAtEase.com Chilled, Unfiltered and AgedMarijn finds that when he talks like an 8-year-old his audience understands more as he s...2020-10-181h 13Office 365 DistilledEP44: Microsoft IGNITE 2020: That was quick!EP44 where we say…Marijn is proud that his customer was in the keynotes and Steve thought it great that his Ignite Bacon was displayed to everyone on Marijn’s Tweet. The boys talk about the great stack that was displayed across all the opening keynotes. Knowing what it represents but not sure what to call it… lets go with the Microsoft Cloud Stack…After getting diverted by Steve’s home domesticity and Marijn wondering about the water running he can hear we do a quick mention about how Marijn is going to take time off and lear...2020-09-2756 min
Office 365 DistilledEP43: The name of the gameSteve can’t leave it alone that Marijn didn’t like the Octomore 9.1 from EP42 so he brings in Sven, one of the Office365Distilled listeners, to show Marijn that this is a pleasant whisky and maybe Marijn is wrong. Although Sven does say that “wow this is like a donkey kicking you where it hurts”.Starting with the Whisky brings the boys to reminisce about Jack and the special Frank Sinatra Edition the boys tasted in Orlando and then started on Ignite 2020 and the forthcoming conference due in September where some great sessions are planned and the virtu...2020-09-161h 00
Office 365 DistilledEP42: We Know 42 is the MS List answerSteve and Marijn talk to a regular listener to the podcast @Dylan_Hayes who talks about setting up his home office so that he can give professional quality presentations with switched cameras, virtual desktops and some great tips on doing the one-person presentation.Then the guys talk about the forthcoming Microsoft 365 Lists application and how it can improve the management of data and looking at adoption and enablement across the business. They discuss Governance of M365 Lists and some thoughts on use and functionality.Steve gets a little sarcastic about the number of monitors you n...2020-09-021h 16
Office 365 DistilledEP41: Hot and Sweaty Success IndicatorsSteve and Marijn suffer by recording during the heatwave and Steve get his Billions and Trillions mixed up. Then they make assumptions about customers knowing why they move to Microsoft365 considering the enterprise vision.
The key subject for EP41 is about measuring success and defining the KPI for collaboration based on Marijn’s mother bitching about being upgraded to office365 and maybe the result of a poor adoption path (sorry Mum)
Should IT change… and how do you measure that change moving forward considering costs, flexibility, and value in an Agile world especially considering ITIL and other quality markers.
Marijn disc...2020-08-1656 min
Office 365 DistilledEP38: Cask strength user content with tearsHow many ways can you access your content in Microsoft 365, listen, and enjoy the exploration of your content in the Microsoft cloud service. Steve and Marijn work through as many of the content access apps, tools, and browser windows for a practical, touchy feely session for the End Users.
Steve talks about how Office365 is like an Apple with content at the core and Marijn goes to Australia with an example of how he can keep his boss happy by getting to his content anyplace anytime. Steve then gets it very wrong by saying there are thousands of file types...2020-06-221h 05
Office 365 DistilledEP37: Working with the business is the new adoptionFrom a holiday Bar-B Q to a podcast, Marijn and Steve join the same lockdown bubble so they can get back to the Old Normal of doing the podcast in the same room and drinking a whisky from the same bottle. Subjects are very much focused on knowledge and business after their presentations on the Global Microsoft 365 Marathon event.
This podcast is about Microsoft’s biggest 365 update, is M365 being dumbed-down and Scotland’s smallest distillery all inside an hour (and a bit) of Steve and Marijn talking crap at a well-stocked bar…2020-06-071h 10
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