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National Polygamy Advocate“What I had to Learn & Grow in the 2020s SO FAR” - Mark Henkel Shares - July 2023National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel, finishing a series of the previous 3 episodes, shares what he had to learn & grow, SO FAR, through the beginning of the 2020s for the modern polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults. Mark Henkel tells of the pandemic he calls “Covid1984” and both shares & honors two close, helpful, and dear polygamous friends who had passed away. Mark Henkel explains how he became a serous reader of non-fiction books (to self-determine how he qualitatively wants to write his own books) and shares how he expanded his topics of keynote speeches even beyond UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult...2023-07-2616 minNational Polygamy AdvocateWhat is Polygadolatry? - Mark Henkel Shares - May 2023National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel teaches against the perils of "Polygadolatry" as he shares the history of the early polygamy movement from the 1990s. In the previous episode of this podcast, Mark Henkel provided three primary reasons why he is the National Polygamy Advocate, not the National Polygamist. As a follow up, here, Mark Henkel shares the 4th reason, one which applies to all three of the previous reasons. Mark Henkel shares how Polygadolatry appeared as a problematic phenomenon in the 1990s with a couple criminal cult leaders that hurt wives as well as foolish husbands, devastated families, and th...2023-05-1018 minNational Polygamy AdvocateHow Waco made Mark Henkel an Iconoclast - Mark Henkel Shares - Apr 2023National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel directly shares his personal story, on the 30th Anniversary, of how the Waco Massacre had transformed him into an Iconoclast, on April 19, 1993. This is the true story of what Mark Henkel observed and witnessed of the events from the “news purports” regarding the Branch Davidians when the US government willingly made up a lie in order to self-justify deliberately mass murdering almost 80 US citizens, including women, children, and babies. Mark Henkel explains how “Waco was my ‘Kent State;’" and, he explains how he had come to know of that earlier "Kent State" event from 1970. In
this episode...2023-04-1916 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Incubator FOX TV Kirsten Fenswick interviewed Mark Henkel -4- Aug 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kirsten Fenswick of The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 4 The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary. Prior to the interview, Mark Henkel had informed the producer that past situations with FOX had caused families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to distrust it as a "Manufactured News Corporation." The producer had started the interview off by making a couple mistakes right away - including starting it by making a "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R.") that causes further problems regarding UCAP families' distrust of FO...2023-03-0104 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Incubator FOX TV Kirsten Fenswick interviewed Mark Henkel -3- Aug 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kirsten Fenswick of The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 3. The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary. Prior to the interview, Mark Henkel had informed the producer that past situations with FOX had caused families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to distrust it as a "Manufactured News Corporation." As she made what Mark Henkel identified as a "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R."), the producer then defaulted to Mormon Polygamy. Again, Mark Henkel corrected her to move beyond stereotype. Finally, Mark Henkel Henkel explain...2023-02-2202 minNational Polygamy AdvocateUCSD Elizabeth Ranz interviewed Mark Henkel -8- May 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 8, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 8 segment, Mark Henkel observed that the battle between supporters of “one man, one woman” (OMOW) and same sex marriage (SSM) “is only going to get worse and worse.” Noting that neither side will stop or give up, Mark Henkel stated that...2022-12-0703 minNational Polygamy AdvocateUCSD Elizabeth Ranz interviewed Mark Henkel -7- May 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 7, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 7 segment, the writer asked Mark Henkel if his previous replies meant that he also supported polyandry (one woman, many husbands). Mark Henkel first explained that polyandry is not supported Biblically. Using his renowned "seed and garden" soundbite analogy, Mark He...2022-11-3005 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -15- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 15 (the final one) of the second post-interview. It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008, to which she agreed. They both also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which was...2022-10-1204 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -10- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 10 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008 - to which she agreed. The two also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This ep...2022-09-0704 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -9- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 9 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is t...2022-08-3104 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -8- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 8 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is t...2022-08-2404 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -7- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 7 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is t...2022-08-1703 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -6- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 6 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is t...2022-08-1008 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -5- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 5 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is t...2022-08-0304 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -4- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 4 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the...2022-07-2704 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -3- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 3 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. As the article contained many negativities to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the third part of that second...2022-07-2005 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -2- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani on March 4, 2008, following an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. (This is Part 2 of that second post-interview.) Because the article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the second part of the second discussion. In this segment...2022-07-1306 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interview #2 Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -1- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani on March 4, 2008, for an article she would write as a student for the Columbia News Service. (This is Part 1 of that second post-interview.) After interviewing Mark Henkel in January of that year, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Because the article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the fir...2022-07-0605 min
National Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interviewed Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -5- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 5. After interviewing Mark Henkel in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Mark Henkel and the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults were blind-sided: the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the fifth and final part of the first discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. The writer...2022-06-2910 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interviewed Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -4- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 4. After interviewing Mark Henkel in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Mark Henkel and the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults awere blind-sided: the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the fourth part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. In this episode, Mark Henkel...2022-06-2212 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interviewed Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -3- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 3. After interviewing in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults as well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the third part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. In this episode, Mark He...2022-06-1508 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interviewed Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -2- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 2. After interviewing in the previous month, Mark Henkel, the writer subsequently published an article, "Polygamists Hit the Web in Search of 'Sister Wives'" on February 19, 2008, that was also picked up by many other news sources. Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults as well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the second part of the discussion in whi...2022-06-0810 minNational Polygamy AdvocateColumbia News Service post-interviewed Mark Henkel - Zehra Mamdani -1- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 1. Earlier, in January, 2008, the writer had a media request for that article she wanted to write. The subsequent interviews seemed to go positively. Her article, "Polygamists Hit the Web in Search of 'Sister Wives'" was posted on February 19, 2008, and it was picked up by many other news sources. Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults as well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to b...2022-06-0109 minNational Polygamy AdvocateOprah Winfrey Show interviewed Mark Henkel - Melinda Morrison -2- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Melinda Morrison, for the Oprah Winfrey Show, on March 21, 2008. This is Part 2 of 2 parts. The producer was making a "circus act request." Over the prior years, the Oprah Winfrey Show had aired a number of episodes about "the dark side of polygamy." Each time, Mark Henkel had routinely reached out professionally to the show to clarify that those spots were damaging to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. The producer was insistent that their show was so great, even pretending the extreme exaggeration that they supposedly got "hundreds of thousands of letters" from...2022-05-2515 minNational Polygamy AdvocateOprah Winfrey Show interviewed Mark Henkel - Melinda Morrison -1- Mar 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Melinda Morrison, for the Oprah Winfrey Show, on March 21, 2008. This is Part 1 of 2 parts. The producer was making a "circus act request," wanting open cameras to be used on families in their own homes. Bypassing the media request ticket system, the producer had directly called a confidential number to Mark Henkel. When she was asked about it, her unwillingness to be open about how her company had received the telephone number led to a perception of her gaslighting from the start. The Oprah Winfrey Show had aired previous episodes about "the da...2022-05-1812 minNational Polygamy AdvocateJupiter Entertainment interviewed Mark Henkel - Grant Cross -2- Nov 2012National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed (again) by Grant Cross, Development Producer for Jupiter Entertainment, on November 28, 2012. This was the second interview with this TV production company that produces series for networks, including TLC. In the first, more comprehensive interview two weeks earlier, the producer said that he would pitch Mark Henkel and the project. Mark Henkel thereafter kept trying to reach the producer for answer to that possibility. Once Mark Henkel reached him by telephone, the producer said that TLC had told his production company that they were aware of Mark Henkel, but that TLC was looking fo...2022-05-1104 minNational Polygamy AdvocateJupiter Entertainment interviewed Mark Henkel - Grant Cross -1- Nov 2012National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Grant Cross, Development Producer for Jupiter Entertainment, on November 15, 2012. This was a TV production company that produces series for networks, including TLC. The producer said that his company was excited and seeking to create a new reality TV series of a matchmaking show for polygamists. The producer had seen the videos of Mark Henkel and realized that both Mark Henkel’s topical knowledge and animated presentation style could be a great fit as host for the show. The producer also acknowledged that Mark Henkel’s unique contribution to such a show as both on...2022-05-0425 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Idea Factory interviewed Mark Henkel - Colt Straub - Aug 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Colt Straub, a producer for The Idea Factory, on August 28, 2007. The company was a TV production company that produces "docu-series." They had created a past series for TLC and had the current interest of Bravo network, Sundance network, and more, for this project. In the Summer of 2007, Mark Henkel was receiving too-numerous "circus act requests" by the media, with many being quite hostile. For this reason, Mark Henkel was strongly protective of UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) families when this request was made. The producer presented himself positively and did try to...2022-04-2727 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 12 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 12) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 12, which is the final part, Mark Henkel explained how this "larger issue" of "Imposerism" also helps the cause of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. This also includes some imprtant soundbites. The co-panelist asked Mark Henkel, "Do you believe socialism is forced compassion?" Mark Henkel replied, "No. I don't believe it's compassion at all."...2022-04-2010 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 11 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 11) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 11, after Mark Henkel introduced his own "other topic" called, "Imposerism," the co-panelist exclaimed, “Wow! Wow! Wow. This is interesting.” The co-panelist then brought up the question about bringing political debates and voting down to the States’ levels; Mark Henkel referred to that as "State Statism." They discussed the combination of the 9th and 10th...2022-04-1311 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 10 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 10) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 10, Mark Henkel introduced his own "other topic" that the host wanted Mark Henkel to also bring up, "Imposerism." Segueing from the previous Bible discussion, Mark Henkel gave his opening soundbite, “The truth is that there is not one single example in the Bible – anywhere - of God ever needing the false god of big...2022-04-0609 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 9 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 9) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 9, Mark Henkel was asked to introduce his own "other topic" that had connection to this issue and other topics. A co-panelist named Kelly wanted to continue the discussion about the "one wife" verses. Mark Henkel explained that he would not listen to commentaries of the Bible any more than he would listen to...2022-03-3014 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 8 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 8) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 8, Mark Henkel was asked about his political self-identification. He replied with his soundbite about the current political environment: "Liberals are Liars; Conservatives are Liberals; and Libertarians are Lip Servers," referring to them as "Corpemocrats, Corpublicans, and Corporatarians" who do not recognize that "liberty and capitalism are for Individuals, not Big Government-born Corporations." One...2022-03-2318 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 7 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 7) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 7, the host asked Mark Henkel for what reason and for what benefit does government have from being involved in marriage. Mark Henkel explained that it is Marriage Control, that is not about Marriage but about Control. Mark Henkel used his renowned soundbites of "laissez faire marital economics," "marital marxism," and his "10 men and...2022-03-1617 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 6 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 6) on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 6, the host brought Mark Henkel back on after the latter had been cut off while giving his previous answer. Mark Henkel briefly re-summarized the answer that he had been saying when not "on air." Mark Henkel explained how trans rights movement leap frogged over the polygamy rights movement. He further explained how th...2022-03-0921 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 5 THE LOST PORTION - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 5 THE LOST PORTION), on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 5, the host opened the start of the second hour of the program, asking Mark Henkel to address legal victories and challenges. As heard in the previous episode of this podcast, just as Mark Henkel began to respond, he was unexpectedly disconnected from the show. The never-before-heard reply that Mark He...2022-03-0220 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Part 4 - Aug 2021National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr. (this episode is Part 4), on August 4, 2021. The complete show lasted 3 hours long. For this podcast, the entire show has been subdivided into several parts. In this Part 4, the host opened the start of the second hour of the program. He asked Mark Henkel to address legal victories and challenges. As Mark Henkel began to respond, he was unexpectedly disconnected from the show. The host joked that that might have been due tom some fictitious person he labelled as "NSA Bob."...2022-02-2304 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Bill O'Reilly (Ron Mitchell) interviewed Mark Henkel - Sept 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by producer Ron Mitchell for the Bill O'Reilly Show on FOXNews television network, on September 14, 2006. In early September, the producer had made a media request. Mark Henkel attempted to call the producer 12 times, leaving a voicemail on the 2nd and 12th attempts. The producer finally called back. He asked the question backwards that, if UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) was "allowed" by government, would that not mean that same sex marriage would have to be allowed too. Mark Henkel gave his famous soundbite, that the question to consider is not whether such thi...2022-01-1913 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAlley Einstein independently interviewed Mark Henkel (UK) -1- Feb 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel gave his first of 2 interviews with Alley Einstein for "Big Pictures & Strong Features," on February 13, 2008. The writer was an established independent writer for British magazines, including Fabulous, More, and Take a Break. (NOTE: “UIC” was also written on the physical audiocassette tape of the original copy of this interview. She was also known as "Alison Rose," being a TV journalist in Australia.) In addition to learning about what she called "mature polygamy," the writer was (successfully) contracting with Mark Henkel to organize a conference call with a family in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. The agre...2022-01-0538 minNational Polygamy AdvocateCourt TV Morning Radio Vinnie Politan interviewed Mark Henkel - Dec 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on Court TV Morning Radio with Vinnie Politan, on satellite Sirius 110, on December 21, 2007. Mark Henkel was included as one of the host's favorite past guests over the previous year. For that reason, the host invited Mark Henkel to appear on this "Christmas Special" show. Mostly, this appearance was a brief but fun exchange, wishing a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the perspective of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. This was the second year in a rowin which the host had invited Mark Henkel to be on the "Christmas Special." At the same time, t...2021-12-2206 minNational Polygamy Advocate20/20 ABC News Kristina Kendall pre-interviewed Mark Henkel -4- Jan 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was pre-interviewed a 4th time by Kristina Kendall, producer for John Stossel, on "20/20" on ABC News TV, on January 24, 2008. This episode is the second of the two newly-found "lost interviews" for this specific television project. This half-hour interview occurred two weeks after the producer and Mark Henkel had flown together to film and interview a UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) family from Mark Henkel's organization for three days, in preparation of the project. The purpose of this additional pre-interview was to prepare for the next step of flying Mark Henkel to New York for the...2021-12-0131 minNational Polygamy Advocate20/20 ABC News Kristina Kendall pre-interviewed Mark Henkel -3- Dec 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was pre-interviewed a 3rd time by Kristina Kendall, producer for John Stossel, on "20/20" on ABC News TV, on December 18, 2007. This episode is one of the two newly-found "lost interviews" for this specific television project. Earlier that day, Mark Henkel had given a lengthy interview with the producer. At the end of that first December 28, 2007, interview (which was previously+ broadcast as a past episode of this podcast), she asked to call Mark Henkel back later that same day. This specific "lost interview" is the call she made later that day. This hour-long interview contains numerous edu...2021-11-2559 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Greta Van Susteren (Kerry O'Connor) interviewed Mark Henkel -7- July 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel spoke for 7th time with producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on July 31, 2006. This was the seventh of nine (7of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. That week, famous actor and one of the few known conservative and pro-Christian actors, Mel Gibson, had been arrested for drunken driving and was recorded making racist rants to the officer. Conservatives and Christians responded that they cannot be defined by what one person does. Mark Henkel noted that that is exactly his own argument whe...2021-11-0305 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Greta Van Susteren (Kerry O'Connor) interviewed Mark Henkel -5- June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed a 5th time by producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on June 27, 2006. This was the fifth of nine (5of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. Mark Henkel had noted that the three-year-anniversary (6/26/2006) of the US Supreme Court decision of Lawrence v. Texas (6/25/2003) had passed, removing their opportunity to use that news-story as the way to get him onto the show. The producer followed-up with more questions about the then-current story about “Heartland Ministry” in Missouri having their children removed by the...2021-10-2021 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Greta Van Susteren (Kerry O'Connor) interviewed Mark Henkel -4- June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed a 4th time by producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on June 5, 2006. This was the fourth of nine (4of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. In this interview, the producer asked about a then-current story about “Heartland Ministry” in Missouri having their children removed, and how the federal government had dropped an innuendo that that Christian community “might” also be “involved in polygamy.” When Mark Henkel called it a rumor and asked who had put that rumor out, the producer said t...2021-10-1319 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Greta Van Susteren (Kerry O'Connor) interviewed Mark Henkel -3- June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed a 3rd time by producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on June 5, 2006. This was the third of nine (3of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. As Warren Jeffs was still "on the lam," and the first season of HBO’s “Big Love” was still be broadcast, the producer for this show on FOX had, in previous discussions wiht Mark Henkel, wanted to present "the other side of polygamy." In the previous interview (on May 25, 2006), she had been seeking to get Mark...2021-10-0604 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOXNews Greta Van Susteren (Kerry O'Connor) interviewed Mark Henkel -1- May 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on May 18, 2006. This was the first of nine (1of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. As Warren Jeffs was still "on the lam," and the first season of HBO’s “Big Love” was still be broadcast, the producer for this show on FOX wanted to present "the other side of polygamy." Mark Henkel provided some quick education. He helped the producer understand that not all polygamy occurs “in the Mormonland bubble” of Utah/Arizona...2021-09-2218 minNational Polygamy AdvocateCourtTV Bloom & Politan (Anne Hartmayer) interviewed Mark Henkel Sept 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by producer Anne Hartmayer for "OPEN COURT: Bloom & Politan" on CourtTV on September 19, 2007, for his appearance on the show the next day. Mark Henkel had previously been on Vinnie Politan’s CourtTV-radio show a number of times, as organized with producer Mark Goldman. Anne Hartmayer was the producer for the TV show that Vinnie Politan co-hosted with Lisa Bloom, so she was already used to working with Mark Goldman. (She learned of Mark Henkel from Mark Goldman.) When another producer for another CourtTV television show, Deb Cote for “Jami Floyd: Best Defense,” learned o...2021-09-0820 minNational Polygamy AdvocateCourtTV Jami Floyd Best Defense (Deb Cote) interviewed Mark Henkel Sept 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by producer Deb Cote for "Jami Floyd: Best Defense" on CourtTV on September 18, 2007. This was in preparation for Mark Henkel's first appearance on the host's show. That day, the prosecution in the Warren Jeffs trial in Utah had rested its case. Mark Henkel had been a previous guest of another show on CourtTV, "Open Court: Bloom & Politan," as well as on a separate CourtTV radio show hosted by Vinnie Politan. The producers for the three shows all wanted Mark Henkel to be on their shows. In this interview, this producer was trying to...2021-09-0109 minNational Polygamy AdvocateINSIDE EDITON Deborah Norville (Erika Jones) interviewed Mark Henkel -2- June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed (a second time) for INSIDE EDITION with Deborah Norville by producer Erika Jones for their nationally syndicated TV show, on June 9, 2006, produced by KingWorld. This was the second of five interviews. Following the previous interview two days earlier (on June 7), the producer had come back with more attempted offerings to try to help this project not be a “Circus Act Request” (C.A.R.) - but it still l was. Mark Henkel re-iterated about the producer’s need for “plausible deniability” from being subpoenaed – even referencing a then-current news cycle about a New York Times...2021-08-0451 minNational Polygamy AdvocateCNN Anderson Cooper 360 (Diana Miller) interviewed Mark Henkel - Apr 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 by producer Diana Miller, on April 23, 2008. This was 20 days into the ongoing news cycle of the FBI raid on the FLDS cult in Texas on April 3, 2008. This hour-and-a-half long interview provides extensive information and soundbites. In the end, although the producer was positive and polite, the decision-makers at CNN only wanted a circus act (a "Circus Acts Request" - C.A.R.). Moreover, they only wanted this to be a taped interview. Mark Henkel insisted that he would have to be on a live-interview first before doing any ta...2021-07-211h 27National Polygamy AdvocateThe Tyra Banks Show Arlene Wilkinson interviewed Mark Henkel - July 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for "The Tyra Banks Show" by associate producer Arlene Wilkinson on July 24, 2006. This was a nationally syndicated daytime television talk show, serving an audience of mostly women, hosted by renowned supermodel and host/creator of "America's Next Top Model" show, Tyra Banks. (The show's name was also known as "The Tyra Show" and later as just "Tyra.") The producer was exploring options for doing an episode or a segment about polygamy, polyamory, or different things involving "poly" relationships. (Mark Henkel made a “poly” joke about plastic that made the producer laugh.) The produc...2021-06-3026 minNational Polygamy AdvocateSTOSSEL FOX Business News John Stossel interviewed Mark Henkel - Mar 2010National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on "STOSSEL" on FOX Business Network (FBN) hosted by John Stossel, on March 4, 2010. The set-up featured John Stossel seated on the right, with Mark Henkel and Gretchen Carlson seated beside each on the left. Gretchen Carlson is the renowned TV personality and co-host (at the time) of her own separate television show, "FOX & Friends." (Note: years later, Gretchen Carlson stopped working for FOX after successfully filing sexual harrassment accusations against that employer.) The show was taped in New York before a live audience on February 24, 2010, the week before it aired. The entire episode was ab...2021-06-1613 minNational Polygamy AdvocateCBS News 48 Hours Sarah Prior interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for "48 Hours" on CBS News, Producer Sarah Prior, on May 19, 2008, preparing a pending episode that later aired on May 27, 2008. This occurred during the news cycle that followed the April 3rd FBI raid in Texas of the FLDS, the Mormon-based cult led by criminal Warren Jeffs. During that news cycle, the manufactured news outlets decidedly chose to focus on that one cult's criminal activities involving underage marriage, pretending and purporting that Jeffs' crimes are "what polygamy is about." No matter how many times that Mark Henkel appeared in media to condemn such things as...2021-06-0225 minNational Polygamy AdvocateHLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan (Ryan Smith fill-in) Mark Henkel - July 2011National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on HLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan, with Ryan Smith as fill-in host, on Headline News TV network, on July 27, 2011. After being on Vinnie Politan's show twice the week before (with that main host himself), Mark Henkel appeared again the then-next week with a different fill-on host. As opening arguments in the FLDS' Warren Jeffs trial were set to begin within less than 24 hours of this segment’s broadcast, the fill-in host had brought Mark Henkel onto the show again to join a panel of another slate of three different guests. (Jeffs was found gu...2021-05-1909 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe 700 Club on CBN aired from interview of Mark Henkel - Aug 2005National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel appeared on Pat Robertson's show, "The 700 Club," on the Christian Broadcasting Network, CBN, on August 16, 2005. For history archiving purposes, Mark Henkel's taped appearance on this specific segment helped "made history." Namely, for the first time in history, a renowned Christian organization (The 700 Club), as led by a worldwide-known Christian leader (Pat Robertson), had publicly acknowledged "Christian Polygamy" as "evangelical Christians" on TV and even said the exact words of "Christian Polygamy" and "Christian polygamists." The two words "Christian" and "Polygamy" were no longer a supposed "contradiction in terms." History had been made indeed. For th...2021-05-1208 minNational Polygamy AdvocateHLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan interviewed Mark Henkel -2- July 2011National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on HLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan, on Headline News TV network, on July 22, 2011. The second interview that week, the host had brought Mark Henkel onto the show again to join a panel of three other guests. They were there to discuss the next then-pending trial of Warren Jeffs set to begin on the following Monday. (Jeffs was found guilty the next month, August 2011, to serve a sentence of life imprisonment plus 20 years). All the panelists agreed that Jeffs was a criminal for the underage rape charges, and Mark Henkel clarified that Jeffs wa...2021-05-0511 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAssociated Press AP Jennifer Dobner interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jennifer Dobner, for the Associated Press (the AP Newswire). **This is a MUST-HEAR Inteview***. On April 3, 2008, law enforcement raided the Eldorado Texas compound of the Mormon-based FLDS, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. For weeks, this raid was the ongoing "big story" for news organizations around the world. As most of those media outlets were routinely yet falsely labelling its leader, the criminal Warren Jeffs, as a supposed "polygamist leader," Mark Henkel had been working feverishly to clarify that Warren Jeffs was no such "polygamous leader" at al...2021-04-281h 13National Polygamy AdvocateTODAY Show NBC Aarne Heikkila regarding breach with Mark Henkel - Mar 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel discussed the breach of agreement by and with Producer Aarne Heikkila and the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, on March 22, 2006, three days after the show aired a report by Lester Holt, on March 19, 2006. Prior to that broadcast, Mark Henkel and the producer had conducted extensive negotiation together as conditions for producing the segment. (Three of those negotiation discussions have been previously posted to this podcast.) The polygamous family from the TruthBearer.org organization (which Henkel founded) had only agreed to be interviewed for the show with specific conditions, one of which being that the report would...2021-04-2116 minNational Polygamy AdvocateTODAY Show NBC Lester Holt and Mark Henkel - Mar 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, for a report by Lester Holt, on March 19, 2006. As per the many discussions beforehand, this report was supposed to be about Mark Henkel, his TruthBearer.org organization, and the national polygamy rights movement. In the end, NBC instead made the report "all about" a polygamous family. While that family was from Mark Henkel's organization, there was no mention in the report of any such connection. Mark Henkel's appearance lasts no longer than 12 seconds. Lester Holt states, "As many as 100,000 Americans are believed to be living in plural ma...2021-04-1406 minNational Polygamy AdvocateTODAY Show NBC Aarne Heikkila Negotiated 3of3 with Mark Henkel - Mar 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 3of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, on March 14, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview (the next day). This conversation was the third of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Mark Henkel had been requiring that it be written into the Agreement that the crew and producer (et al) would ne...2021-03-3114 minNational Polygamy AdvocateTODAY Show NBC Aarne Heikkila Negotiated 2of3 with Mark Henkel - Mar 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 2of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on on NBC-TV, on March 10, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview. This conversation was the second of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Because NBC had aired another show called "Dateline" that had made false associations about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, two years previously, Ma...2021-03-2407 minNational Polygamy AdvocateTODAY Show NBC Aarne Heikkila Negotiated 1of3 with Mark Henkel - Mar 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 1of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on on NBC-TV, on March 9, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview. This conversation was the first of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Because NBC had aired another show called "Dateline" that had made false associations about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, two years previously, Ma...2021-03-1710 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Ed Tyll Show Florida Man Radio WDYZ interviewed Mark Henkel - Feb 2020National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on The Ed Tyll Show on Florida Man Radio, WDYZ 660AM / 105.5FM, in Altamonte Springs, Florida, on February 28, 2020. Over the previous decade, Mark Henkel had been a guest a number of different times on the host's past syndicated programs - each of which had always been positive interviews. For this interview, Mark Henkel was originally asked as a guest to discuss a new state law being passed in the Utah Legislature to reduce the charge of bigamy from a felony crime down to an infraction in cases of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Poly...2021-03-1045 minNational Polygamy AdvocateHLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan interviewed Mark Henkel - July 2011National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on HLN Special Report with Vinnie Politan, on Headline News TV network, on July 21, 2011. The host had brought Mark Henkel onto the show to join a panel of two other guests. They were there to discuss the next then-pending trial of Warren Jeffs set to begin on the following Monday. (Jeffs was found guilty the next month, August 2011, to serve a sentence of life imprisonment plus 20 years). All the panelists agreed that Jeffs was a criminal for the underage rape charges, and Mark Henkel clarified that Jeffs was always opposed by the National Po...2021-02-2410 minNational Polygamy Advocate20/20 ABC News "John Stossel Special Report" interviewed Mark Henkel - July 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on "John Stossel Special Report" for "20/20" on ABC News, on July 18, 2008, during prime time television hours. The hour-long special looked into how big government over-reaches into what consenting adults do. This 7-minute segment, focusing on polygamy, made its fourfold-purpose clear. One, show that polygamy is not exclusively based on Mormon Polygamy (and that that idea is a myth). Two, show other forms of polygamy in a modern context. Three, show that UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) is about unrelated consenting adults making private choices of UCAP for themselves that work for them. Four, sho...2021-02-1007 minNational Polygamy Advocate20/20 ABC News John Stossel interviewed Mark Henkel - Jan 2008National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was in-person interviewed by John Stossel, for "20/20" on ABC News TV, on January 30, 2008, at the ABC studios in New York City, New York, for a "John Stossel Special" that would air on July 18, 2008. Even as producer Kristina Kendall had prepared some of the topics for John Stossel to ask for this full-camera taping, he still asked questions in his own way, was interested and positive toward Mark Henkel, and even offered indirect suggestions on how Mark Henkel could consider answering questions that the show's audience would be able to understand. (For example, John Stossel sugg...2021-01-2737 minNational Polygamy Advocate20/20 ABC News Kristina Kendall pre-interviewed Mark Henkel -1- Nov 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was pre-interviewed by Kristina Kendall, producer for John Stossel, on "20/20" on ABC News TV, on November 21, 2007. This was the first of 2 pre-interviews, in preparation for a subsequent taped-interview with John Stossel himself at the ABC studios in New York City, New York, for a “John Stossel Special” that would air on July 18, 2008. The producer wanted to do a story about non-Mormon polygamy. She established right away that she knew and that she affirmed that she would first have to build a relationship of trust. Mark Henkel told her how the Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamists (UPCAPs...2021-01-1351 minNational Polygamy AdvocatePeri Muldofsky independently interviewed Mark Henkel - June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Peri Muldofsky, former Development Producer for ABC News Productions, but still freelancing for them on June 10, 2006. In this (the third of three) interviews, the producer said that she was no longer full time employed by ABC News, that she worked for the History Channel instead, and that she was still able to write articles for major media such New York Sunday Times magazine, Glamour, and other print media. She still very much wanted to so something with Mark Henkel and this story. The interview referenced Mark Henkel's several experiences/observations with vari...2021-01-0635 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOX News Radio Anderson McGregor interviewed Mark Henkel - Feb 2005National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Anderson McGregor, producer for The Alan Colmes Show, on FOX News Radio, on February 7, 2005 and several subsequent times through April 29, 2005. The initial media request sought for Mark Henkel to appear on The Alan Colmes Show on the next night. As other news broke, however, that original plan did not happen. This podcast episode includes 16 different phone calls, made over a period of almost 3 months, as the producer kept trying to find ways that would tie-in to current events, to have Mark Henkel be interviewed by Alan Colmes on the show. When the...2020-12-1635 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOX News Radio Jessica Rosenthal interviewed Mark Henkel - Sept 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jessica Rosenthal for a report she was preparing for FOX News Radio, on September 24, 2007. This was during the trial hearings of criminal Warren Jeffs of the FLDS. This interview includes many persuasive, essential soundbites. Mark Henkel said, "To connect all polygamists to Warren Jeffs is as slanderous and offensive as connecting all teachers to Mary Kay Letourneau." The reporter exclaimed, "Huh! That IS a great soundbite!" Mark Henkel clarified and called out the "illusion that the media continues to portray, and that is, that only practicing polygamists want polygamy rights. There IS a po...2020-12-0917 minNational Polygamy AdvocateNewsRadio 1620 WNRP Branden Rathert interviewed Mark Henkel - Jan 2015National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel on Live Talk Radio with host Branden Rathert, on News Radio 1620 AM WNRP, in Pensacola, Florida. As same sex marriage was just then legalized in Florida, Mark Henkel was brought back on to the show (as a previous guest in past years) to discuss UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. The host asked his audience: Which of those two types of marriage do they find more abhorrent? Mark Henkel explained that the modern UCAP polygamy movement is actually a pro-woman's choice movement. When the host referenced two different reality TV shows about polygamy as being "weird...2020-12-0205 minNational Polygamy AdvocateNewsmax TV MidPoint Ed Berliner inteviewed Mark Henkel - Jan 2015National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Newsmax TV news show, MidPoint, with host Ed Berliner, on January 19, 2015. This network claims to be a conservative media outlet serving a conservative audience. The host introduced the topic with reference to a standard "slippery slope" statement by Senator Lindsey Graham, in a Senate committee hearing considering President Barack Obama's nominee for Attorney General, Loretta Lynch - that if same sex marriage can be legalized, so must polygamy. Mark Henkel answered the question with the perfect answer to easily persuade any actual conservative: limited government, the polygamy rights win-win solution. When as...2020-11-1805 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe National Post - Canada - inteviewed Mark Henkel - July 2001National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for The National Post, a national Canadian newspaper out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, on July 16, 2001, by a Reporter named, Nate. Just under 1 hour and 20 minutes, this interview was conducted in the pre-9/11 era of the Tom Green trial and sentencing. This was one of the earlier media interviews, back when collecting details for each one was still being learned and systematized. This comprehensively educational interview provided Mark Henkel's explanation of "the Tom Green problem" and the "daddy-daughter dynamic," Henkel's soundbite that "Christian polygamy does not mean Mormon Polygamy and polygamy does not mean...2020-11-111h 18National Polygamy AdvocateThe Me and Vinnie Show Sirius XM Stars Too interviewed Mark Henkel - Jan 2010National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on "The Me And Vinnie" show with host, Vinnie Politan, on January 19, 2010. The host occasionally shared the mic with the show's "newsman," Michael Billy. The purposes of the interview sought, generally, to discuss UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, and, specifically, to discuss how the then-ongoing Perry v. Schwarzenegger case in California which was then-seeking to overturn Proposition 8 might impact polygamy rights. (Prop. 8 was a referendum passed by 52% of California voters in November 2008, amending the California State Constitution to add the following amendment, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or r...2020-11-0431 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAssociated Press AP post-interviewed Mark Henkel after nationwide article - Nov 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was POST-interviewed on November 27, 2006, AFTER an article by the Associated Press (the AP Newswire) published nationwide on November 24, 2006. **This MUST-HEAR Interview*** is the third of 3 podcast audios regarding this article written by Reporter Jennifer Dobner. This interview discussed Mark Henkel's reaction and feedback on the interview, noting his observation of the need to help correct the AP Stylebook on the issue of reporter's needing to be allowed to differentiate "Mormon Polygamy" as a term, because of the mainstream "Mormons controlling the AP Stylebook." Mark Henkel gave the sound-bite, "The problem is, because the Mormon inst...2020-10-2124 minNational Polygamy AdvocateOvernight America KMOX NewsRadio 1120 interviewed Mark Henkel - March 2020National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Overnight America, hosted by Ryan Wrecker, on KMOX NewsRadio 1120, in St. Louis, Missouri, on March 4, 2020. The interview had been originally scheduled to focus on bigamy laws in general and on the then-new law that was being passed in Utah that reduced the charges of bigamy from a felony to an infraction for UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. The host began gaslighting from the beginning, mocking in doubt that the "purported clause" in bigamy laws really threatened anyone. After hearing different forms of polygamy identified, the host asked specifically about Christian Polygamy. As...2020-09-3044 minNational Polygamy AdvocatePortland Phoenix Jeff Inglis interviewed Mark Henkel - Nov 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jeff Inglis, the Managing Editor for The Portland Phoenix newspaper, in Portland, Maine, on November 13, 2009. This interview occurred 10 days after Maine voters, by a "People's Veto" referendum in a mid-term election, repealed a new same sex marriage law. (NOTE:, same sex marriage later became legalized "again" in Maine by the nationwide US Supreme Court decision of Obergefell v. Hodges on June 26, 2015). For all of this, Mark Henkel had written an op-ed about how the law was neither about "Marriage Protection" nor about "Marriage Equality," and he was waiting for whether the st...2020-09-1635 minNational Polygamy AdvocateMark Henkel persisted that Portland Press Herald publish article - Feb 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel persistently sought for the Opinion Page Editor John Porter to publish an article in the Portland Press Herald, starting on February 11, 2009. The Maine newspaper had, 2 years previously, reported about Mark Henkel. Later that coming Spring of 2009, the Maine State Legislature was preparing to make a law to make Maine the 5th State to legalize same sex marriage. Mark Henkel was seeking to show a "third way," the Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution to end the marriage debate. Mark Henkel had first spoken with the newspaper's "Maine Voices" Editor Michael (M.D.) Harmon who had passed it off...2020-09-0918 minNational Polygamy AdvocateMark Henkel persisted Associated Press AP Jennifer Dobner clarify - 2 - Sept 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel persistently sought for Jennifer Dobner to make a regular clarification for articles in the Associated Press (the AP newswire), reaching her on September 8, 2006. --Part 2 of 2.-- One week previously, the fugitive on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted List, the cult leader of FLDS, Fundamentalist LDS, Warren Jeffs, had been caught and arrested. For that week, Mark Henkel persisted for Jennifer Dobner to include a clarifying statement that the national polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults has always opposed that cult leader and criminal, were glad that he was caught, and both loathe and d...2020-09-0213 minNational Polygamy AdvocateHogue in the Morning AM1380 KTKZ interviewed Mark Henkel - Apr 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on "Hogue in the Morning" on AM1380 KTKZ, in Sacramento, California, of the Salem Radio Network, on April 4, 2006. After the premiere of HBO's then-new fictional TV show, "Big Love," this consvertive radio show made a media request to discuss polygamy on air, live. After Mark Henkel's repeated attempts to reach them by telephone (despite the fact the the show was the originator of the media request), and being told that they were out of time more than once while the producer kept the pre-interview calls going long, etc., Mark Henkel became aware duri...2020-08-0558 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBards Logic Political Talk interviewed Mark Henkel - Oct 2019National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bards Logic Political Talk, a 3-hour show hosted by Robert Jetter Jr., with a round-table of the show's additional Conservative and Christian co-panelists, on October 24, 2019. This was a comprehensive interview that covered so many different issues pertaining to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. During this interview, Mark Henkel first came up with the "No dog in the fight" soundbite as well as first mentioned his observation of what he calls, "#ImposerVsImposer politics" - by which an Imposer always wins no matter which "side" gets elected, all while leaders of both "sides" keep...2020-07-222h 54National Polygamy AdvocatePortland Phoenix Jeff Inglis interviewed Mark Henkel - Oct 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jeff Inglis, the Managing Editor for The Portland Phoenix newspaper, in Portland, Maine, on October 29, 2009. This interview occurred during the week before a mid-term election, in which voters in the State of Maine would be voting on a "People's Veto" to repeal the then-recently-passed new same sex marriage law. (It was repealed on November 3, 2009. Even so, same sex marriage later became legalized "again" in Maine by the nationwide US Supreme Court decision of Obergefell v. Hodges on June 26, 2015). For all of this, Mark Henkel had written an op-ed about how the law was...2020-07-1513 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAssociated Press AP Jennifer Dobner interviewed Mark Henkel -2- June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jennifer Dobner for the Associated Press (the AP newswire), on June 29, 2006. The discussion involved the breaking news that a Utah group of anti-polygamists called "Tapestry Against Polygamy" had got into trouble with their non-profit status and failing to report all of their donations. This interview includes Mark Henkel's "using a bandaid with a chainsaw" soundbite to describe the tactics of that small Utah-local anti-polygamist group of hurting former members of specific Mormon-based cults. Mark Henkel noted how that local group had, years previously, refused his (non-Mormon) organization's offer to help, and the gr...2020-07-0804 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAssociated Press AP Jennifer Dobner interviewed Mark Henkel - June 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jennifer Dobner for the Associated Press (the AP newswire), on June 3, 2006. This interview referenced the June 5, 2006, cover of same sex magazine, The Advocate, headlined as "Polygamy and Gay Men." That article led to the AFA.net calling for a boycott of Ford for its ad on the back cover. That was followed by a conservative writer from the Heritage Foundation, Stanley Kurtz (who had been on the same TV segment as Mark Henkel on the 700 Club), who had authored a hostile anti-polygamy propaganda article for WordlNetDaily.com. That later article then became...2020-06-2415 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFOX 10 Phoenix KSAZ-TV interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2016National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on FOX 10 Phoenix KSAZ-TV, in Phoenix Arizona, broadcast on May 24, 2016. The report contained clips from a taped interview conducted in the (hired by KSAZ-TV) television network studio of CBS WGME-TV 13 in Portland Maine on April 21, 2016. While everything else was accurate, this FOX 10 Phoenix TV news report did make two small mistakes. They said that Mark Henkel "calls himself a National Polygamy Advocate ™" - when he actually IS that. They also said, "Mark Henkel is an attorney" - when he actually was NOT that. Notwithstanding those inaccuracies, the interview was otherwise positive and accurate, rightly c...2020-05-2004 minNational Polygamy AdvocateAssociated Press AP Jennifer Dobner interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jennifer Dobner for the Associated Press (the AP newswire), on May 18, 2006. Two days earlier, on May 16, 2006, the State Supreme Court of Utah had decided the Utah v. Holm case. Mark Henkel offered the following soundbite, "National Polygamy organization says the decision criminalizes free speech." On Page 12, Paragraph 28 of the decision, that court declared, "we conclude that the term 'marry' is not confined to legally recognized marriages." That is, the free speech act of just saying/purporting to be a polygamist was sufficient to prosecute a polygamist, even if there was no more t...2020-05-1304 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFox News Andrew O'Reilly interviewed Mark Henkel - Sept 2019National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for Fox News by Andrew O'Reilly, on September 4, 2019. Earlier that week, Utah State Senator Deidre Hederson announced that she would be proposing a new bill in the coming January 2020 session to reduce the crime of polygamy from a felony to an infraction (i.e., equivalent to a parking ticket). The purpose of the proposed bill would be to empower polygamists to feel safe from prosecution to report real crimes without fear of their families being jailed and separated. This interview sought Mark Henkel's "take" on this proposed bill. While being hopeful, he intent...2020-05-0613 minNational Polygamy AdvocatePortland Phoenix Jeff Inglis interviewed Mark Henkel - Apr 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Jeff Inglis, the Managing Editor for The Portland Phoenix newspaper, in Portland, Maine, on April 30, 2009. In the previous week, on April 22, 2009, the Maine State Legislature had conducted a Public Hearing on a pending law to legalize same sex marriage. 4,000 people attended this major event, including Mark Henkel who presented his "Neither For Nor Against" Testimony. In this historic speech, Mark Henkel pointed out that which he called as the "Marriage Control" hypocrisies of both the "YES" and "NO" sides at the hearing. Reporters Deirdre Fulton and Emily Parkhurst reported about Mark Henkel...2020-04-2920 minNational Polygamy AdvocateFAZ.de (German newspaper) Katja Gelinsky interviewed Mark Henkel - Feb 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by reporter Katja Gelinsky for the German newspaper, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ.de), on February 27, 2007. The name as translated (from German to English) is "Frankfurt General Newspaper." This 45-minute interview provides a comprehensive education about the UCAP movement (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy), Christian Polygamy and the Bible, and how Mark Henkel became the National Polygamy Advocate ™. Mark Henkel also explains the "house of cards" political strategy, the "Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution" to end the marriage debate, how Christian leaders are paradigm-shifting, and how some would-be "conservative" writers such as Stanley Kurtz (of the Nat...2020-04-1545 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBBC TV Harriet Pleming interviewed Mark Henkel - Mar 2003National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Harriet Pleming for the BBC, in London, England, on March 24, 2003. Having previously given an interview a few months beforehand with a different BBC journalist, Mark Henkel was glad to help the BBC in their continuing research into the new movement of Christian Polygamy and the TruthBearer.org organization. Mark Henkel explained the Reformation, "Sola Scriptura," how and why individual Bible-studying Christians come to discover and understand that the Bible never banned polygamy, and how the organization is "Continuing the Reformation." Explaining how the organization does this for others and overall society, he sa...2020-03-1122 minNational Polygamy AdvocateWestwood One's Metro Networks interviewed Mark Henkel - Aug 2001National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Westwood One's MetroNetworks' MetroSource Radio News Wire, on August 24, 2001. Criminal Tom Green, a rogue variant of Mormon Polygamist, had been sentenced for his convicted crimes. Mark Henkel explained that Tom Green received a 5-year sentence for the charge of criminal non-support, while each of the four remaining 5-year sentences for bigamy were to be served concurrently, and $79,900 had to paid in restitution for the welfare fraud. Noting the "concurrent" aspect of the sentences for bigamy, Mark Henkel declared the sound-bite, "Tom Green will NOT be serving any ACTUAL time in prison for 'b...2020-03-0419 minNational Polygamy AdvocateBulldog Live on The Pulse WTPL 107.7 interviewed Mark Henkel - June 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on Bulldog Live on The Pulse, WTPL 107.7 FM, with host Brian Tilton, in Manchester, New Hampshire, on June 10, 2009. A week earlier, the New Hampshire Governor had signed a then-new same sex marriage bill into law - one of the first few States to do so (following after Maine doing so the month before). The non-liberal host asked Mark Henkel to explain the "Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution to end the marriage debate." After explaining that solution, Mark Henkel then said, "Conservatives are going to continue to lose the same sex marriage debate and then...2020-02-2619 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Boston Herald Jessica Heslam interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for The Boston Herald by Jessica Heslam, in Boston, Massachusetts, on May 9, 2006. The new fictional TV show called, "Big Love," had been successfully running on HBO during the previous weeks - so successfully that the network had then reported its authorization to begin recording for a second season. The interview with this reporter seemed to be positive. She asked genuinely good questions. "Is the show an accurate account of polygamy?" "What myths does it dispel?" "Has the show done more harm than good, or more good than harm?" Mark Henkel provided numerous insights...2020-01-1516 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Arizona Republic Linda Valdez interviewed Mark Henkel - July 2006National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for The Arizona Republic by Linda Valdez, in Phoenix, Arizona, on July 3, 2006. The reporter, having written previous articles about the Mormon polygamists in what Mark Henkel calls the "Mormonland bubble" of Utah/Arizona, was rather biased in her thereby thinking that "all" polygamy is supposedly associated with the crimes of the criminal cult FLDS, Warren Jeffs, and Tom Green from the previous years. She learned much from this extensive education on many related issues. Mark Henkel definitively differentiated the difference between Mormon Polygamy vs Christian Polygamy and how other different forms of polyg...2020-01-081h 11National Polygamy AdvocateThe Al Rantel Show (John Phillips) KABC interviewed Mark Henkel - May 2009National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on The Al Rantel Show (with John Phillips as the fill-in host) TalkRadio 790 KABC, in Los Angeles, California, on May 12, 2009. Days earlier, on May 6, 2009, Mark Henkel's home state of Maine had become the 5th State to formally legalize same sex marriage in law. (NOTE: thatMaine law was subsequently repealed by a "People's Veto" referendum vote, later in the year, on November 3, 2009.) The show's namesake host, who had been known as a public "gay conservative," had been out, due to severe medical issues. This interview took place in the month before the namesake host formall...2020-01-0136 minNational Polygamy AdvocateJamie Floyd Best Defense CourtTV interviewed Mark Henkel -3- Sept 2007National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on "Jamie Floyd: Best Defense" on the television network, Court TV, on September 26, 2007. Host Jami Floyd was a former defense attorney who had been a legal consultant for various television networks, aside from her own program. This interview was the third of a number of times that Mark Henkel was brought on this TV program as the expert during the trial of FLDS criminal cult leader Warren Jeffs. In this interview, Warren Jeffs had been found guilty of arranging the forced arranged marriage of a 14 year old girl with her monogamous 19 year old cousi...2019-09-2512 minNational Polygamy AdvocateUnderstanding the Law interviewed Mark Henkel - June 2015National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on Understanding the Law with Peter Lamont, on UTLradio.com, on June 29, 2015. On the Monday weekly 2-hour legal review that the host would present each week with co-host Bob Hughes, this episode was coming after the 3-days-earlier historic decision by the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS), Obergefell v. Hodges (6/26/2015), that formally legalized same sex marriage. The host is an attorney who self-identified as a Christian (Russian Orthodox) who defends equality and fairness. The co-host is a Republican who self-identified as non-religious. The host and co-host interviewed Mark Henkel on this episode between...2019-08-0757 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Thom Hartmann Program interviewed Mark Henkel - Dec 2013National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on The Thom Hartmann Program, by Thom Hartmann himself, nationally syndicated radio and TV show, on December 30, 2013. This was Mark Henkel's second interview on the show, having given an interview 6 months previously too. Even though Mark Henkel, in the previous interview, had already disproved the host's erring fallacy of trying to say that what a cult did with "Lost Boys" is something mainstream America would do, the politically-liberal/progressive host still started off the second interview with that exact same insulting premise. When the host claimed "I have polyamorous friends" while still comin...2019-05-1512 minNational Polygamy AdvocateThe Washington Times Cheryl Wetzstein interviewed Mark Henkel -1- Oct 2005National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by National Reporter, Cheryl Wetzstein, for The Washington Times, on October 11, 2005, as the first of 2 interviews with him for an article that would be published on the front page of the Sunday edition, December 11, 2005, of this known politically conservative newspaper. Mark Henkel intentionally used those commonplaces & rhetorical arguments to persuade that target audience. In this first interview, this reporter was doing the initial research and making preparations on how to conduct 2 additional interviews to be later conducted with 2 separate families from the TruthBearer.org Organization with Mark Henkel mediating. After those 2 subsequent fami...2019-03-1323 min