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Share a SandwichEpisode Seventeen: Naomi SchoenfeldI have known Dr. Naomi since we were 8! We also had an amazing Hall and Oates podcast, and she loves cocktails and dancing to Prince. AND she's a fancy medical grown-up person... Medical anthropologist and public health nurse practitioner in San Francisco. Her areas of expertise include medical anthropology, STS, pharmaceuticals, vaccines, postsocialism, social medicine, and critical public health. She has conducted ethnographic research examining (post)socialist technoscientific formations through Cuban cancer vaccines. Additionally, her research examined a novel program providing thousands of rooms in tourist hotels to persons experiencing homelessness during the COVID19 pandemic. ...2024-01-1943 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Forty: Ennui on the MountainThis week we discuss the song Ennui on the Mountain, and spend quite a bit of time sorting out the perfect t-shirt to create around a theme. It's official, we need a merch designer on staff. We discuss the significance of musical influence and the Dave Grohl book, being in our forties, and who is more emo - Hall or Oates? Plus, of course, MK had to work Pedro Pascal and The Last of Us into the episode (because episode three was pure genius, and Pedro is HOT). 2023-02-1236 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Nine: Did It In A MinuteWe are back from our brief hiatus and kicking off the new year with the song Did It In A Minute! After a few weeks in Mexico, and some time to reorganize ourselves, we are ready for 2023. Time to learn all about Eric Carmen, Sergei Rachmaninoff, and our favorite types of cough drops. Shout out to phlebotomists! 2023-01-1641 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Eight: Say It Isn't SoIt's our first time streaming live on Twitch! Did anyone show up? No, but we also didn't tell anyone because we wanted to make sure we did it right. HA! We discuss the song Say It Isn't So, as well as Halloween costumes, The Lawnmower Man, and the new John Oates Movember look! This week's unofficial sponsor is Cole hardware store in San Fran! WOO HOO!2022-10-3139 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Seven: Everything Your Heart DesiresThis week we talk about yet another song MK thinks Naomi mentioned liking in the past...only to find out she was wrong again. We spend a great deal of time talking about saxophone players, how to pronounce OOH YEAH, artichokes, and how much more Daryl appears in the video than John. Why is that? The unofficial sponsor this week is Trader Joe's granola bars! 2022-10-2445 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Six: From Philly to ChileWe were together in one room - finally! After a fun weekend of shenanigans, we watched From Philly to Chile on Paramount Plus. It's a short little documentary and got us talking about a million other topics that were somehow relevant. The movie BROS, Jameson, wine tasting at Iron Horse Vineyards, and our love of Brad Pitt. Would he make a great Daryl Hall in a biopic? Yes, yes he would. Lots of thoughts on who would play John Oates too...2022-10-0735 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Five: How Does It Feel To Be BackThis week we discuss the song How Does It Feel To Be Back off the Voices Album, as well as discover some amazing things about Mr. GE Smith! Naomi, fresh from a Cimafunk show, introduces us to a gentleman who could be a child of Bruno Mars and John Oates, if that was a possibility. We also have a new favorite DJ on Insta and Tik Tok, as well as thoughts on MK's Peloton. 2022-10-0333 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Four: Is It a StarWe had some sound issues this week, but making a podcast on the go while enjoying the Beachlife Ranch festival is not easy! We discuss the amazing Hall and Oates show, as well as the one standout song they played from the War Babies album. We also took a little field trip to see the gents’ star on the Hollywood Walk of fame and had some delicious Korean food! A fun weekend in LA with a Hall and Oates theme for the WIN!2022-09-2525 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Three: Pleasure BeachIt's finally here - the Beachlife Ranch festival in Redondo Beach! Join us as we chat about our expectations of the show, the delicious brunch we ate, and the song Pleasure Beach! Of course, we digress into convos about Always Sunny in Philidelphia, Bryan Adams, and how we would create a video for this song. Don't worry - there will be an episode next week all about the show! 2022-09-1932 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-Two: She's GoneThis week we chat with Father John Reardon, a former Catholic, and current Episcopal priest. We discuss the song (and video for) She's Gone, the devil and his work on Earth, and how the Indigo Girls inspired John's sermons. John Reardon is an Episcopal priest, educator, and social worker. He holds a Ph.D. in theology from Fordham University, where he wrote his dissertation about mystical experiences across religious beliefs. John recently moved to his family’s ancestral farm in the Appalachian mountains of western Maryland, where he lives with his dog and three cats.2022-09-111h 10
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty-One: Promise Ain't EnoughOur guest this week is an amazing podcaster and all-around great guy, Jesse Jackson (not that Jesse Jackson). In addition to discussing The Boss, we relive Prince concerts and dig into the Ticketgate drama. We also talk about television shows like Dr. Who, Only Murders in the Building, House of Dragons, and Sex Education. PLUS we learn about the podcast Dead Eyes and can't wait to dive in. OH - and we focus on the song Promise Ain't Enough from Marigold Sky because HALL AND OATES. Jesse Jackson has been hosting his Podcast Set Lusting Bruce since 2015. D...2022-09-021h 09
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirty: The Last TimeIt’s our first song off the album Along the Red Ledge! This week’s rabbit hole takes us on a journey through The Ronettes and Phil Spector, the founding fathers, Jason Momoa’s water, Nimsdai Purja’s mountaineering adventures, and MK’s most embarrassing Instagram DM. We also need someone to help us get some shirts made so we can represent the Hall and Oates pod and our love of these gents when we attend the Beachlife Festival in Redondo Beach!2022-08-3044 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Nine: Portable RadioWe are loving these songs on X-Static! This song is a total bop there is roller skating in the video so we are clearly obsessed. Hear about MK going to see The Weeknd and Magic Mike in Vegas, as well as a million other random things that have very little to do with the song yet somehow work as part of the convo. Is this our new motto? Possibly. 2022-08-2242 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Eight: Kiss On My ListTalking to Chris (Johnny) Lackey is always a delight! We talk HP Lovecraft, Star Trek, epic kisses, DCI Banks, and a million other topics (as always) while digging into Kiss On My List. Join us for a fun and informative hour of geeking out! Chris Lackey is the co-host of two shows - The Legendary HPLovecraft Literary Podcast and Rachel Watches Star Trek. Originally from Illinois, now lives in Yorkshire England, Via Los Angeles. AND he is a baby angel sent straight from heaven! 2022-08-141h 10
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Seven: I'm Watching You (A Mutant Romance)This week Naomi is in Cape Cod and MK just returned from Outside Lands in SF. During the discussion of our first song from the War Babies album, I'm Watching You (A Mutant Romance), we cover many topics. Dr. Teeth and the Muppets band, Pokemon, Bowie, and a delightful little treat Naomi used to make when we were kids. Ever wonder what it means to call someone a Gingerbread eater? Us too, so if you know please let us know. 2022-08-1039 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Six: Rich GirlThis week we discuss Rich Girl with our local Rich GUY Douglas Russell! If you’ve ever wondered about the debutant scene in St. Louis and beyond, this episode is for you! Like a narrator in a Jane Austen novel, Doug Russell grew up the “poor cousin” in a family whose social influence and wealth have spanned three continents, 9 decades, three contested wills, and has affected the St. Louis debutante season, the development of Kodachrome color photography, the commercialization of Root Beer, Communism in Laos, the emergence of Vietnamese war babies, the making of Bruce Lee’s Enter Th...2022-07-301h 18
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Five: Some Things Are Better Left UnsaidThis week we look at the song Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid, and meander around many topics including: drummer Mickey Curry, Moxie Roller Skates, My Favorite Murder, Justin Baldoni, Irma Yep, and Earl’s closet! It’s quite a conversation and we both leave knowing a few things we didn’t know beforehand. Cocktails this week were Trader Joe’s wine and delicious Ohza Mimosas - thanks Joe Jonas!2022-07-2249 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Four: Your ImaginationLJ Johnson is a Bay Area-based rabble-rouser and community mental health worker. As a professional homosexual charged with corrupting the youth into lives of gay hedonism, they are contractually obligated to espouse correct opinions on all things pop culture. They are also a committed social services provider with over eleven years of direct service experience working with psychosocially complex communities including people experiencing severe and persistent mental illness, LGBTQIA+ youth, people experiencing homelessness, and people who use injection drugs. We discuss polyamory, Highlander, growing up in the church dating Christian rock musicians, and MK's book...2022-07-181h 03
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Three: No Brain, No PainCan one song encapsulate both the joy and pain of ignorant bliss? The answer is YES! Somehow this song is both a delightful poem about a sunny day sipping wine without a care in the world, and a simplification of a mind so priviledged it cannot think of anyone but itself. Are we talking about the Roe vs. Wade decision? Of course we are! But that's not all - Naomi is at the Ashland Shakespeare Festival, and MK saw Shawn Mendes again, and there is also discussion of monkey minds, punk bands from the 90's, and One Flew Over...2022-07-0424 min
Set Lusting Bruce: The Bruce Springsteen Fan PodcastMary Kay & Naomi - Childhood Friends, Podcasters, Daryl Hall & John Oates PHD CandidatesNaomi Schoenfeld and Mary Kay Holmes have been friends since elementary school. They join Jesse to discuss their long friendship, their love for the music of Daryl Hall and John Oates plust their Out of Touch Podcast @hallandoatespod. 2022-06-291h 11
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-Two: IntravinoThis week is all about wine! The song Intravino is the perfect soundtrack for a deep discussion with our high school friend and wine aficionado, Jeremy Campbell. We dive into Daryl and John's love of wine, the amazing video for the song, and the intricacies of different varietals...all while drinking wine ourselves. This episode is unofficially brought to you by Naomi's favorite, Navarro vineyards, and MK's can of Babe sparkling red!2022-06-271h 03
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty-one: Don't Hold Back Your LoveWe both tried to find the best PRIDE anthem by Hall and Oates and this is where we landed. A classic 90's video, good hair, generic lyrics that are inclusive...this song ticks many boxes. Is it possible we didn't really know this song (and many others) in the 90's when we were listening to The Cure and De La Soul? Yes, yes it is. But it's fun to discover and enjoy them all now as more than just Hall and Oates songs in the supermarket aisles. Happy Pride, everyone! 2022-06-2146 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twenty: Wait for MeThis week was a bit of a journey. From the song Wait for Me to Monchichis and ear lobe fortune-telling, we get into several topics that somehow relate back to our heroes, Hall and Oates. Kind of. 2022-06-1240 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Nineteen: I'm Just a Kid (Don't Make Me Feel Like a Man)This week we wonder how old the woman in this song is, and why is John Oates chasing her around corners? We have so many questions about the inspiration behind this song, and genuinely don't know if these lyrics would fly in 2022. Maybe? Let us know what you think! Also, MK talks more about how hot Hopper is on Stranger Things because OF COURSE she does. 2022-06-0741 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Eighteen: Private EyesThis week's episode is fantastic and NOT family-friendly! We dive into "Private Eyes" with the inimitable MarQ'uis Reid, Naomi's colleague from the San Francisco Department of Public Health. MarQ'uis takes us on a wild ride from his Philly days listening to Hall and Oates on the radio pre-MTV then deep into his past work as a "private eye" public health syphilis tracker. Listen and learn! 2022-05-291h 19
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Seventeen: Fun Facts for NaomiThis week's episode is brought to you by MK's Covid brain! After hours in bed reading random fun facts about Hall and Oates, MK knew she couldn't keep these gems to herself. Enjoy! This episode is unofficially brought to you by Paxlovid, Tylenol, Nyquil, and Ricola. 2022-05-2335 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Sixteen: Todd and Daryl LIVEThis week was the Daryl Hall and Todd Rundgren live show in SF and we have been excited FOREVER...then MK got covid and our lovely friend, Sarah, stepped in to keep the fun going. Hearing about a concert is almost as good as being there, right? 2022-05-1654 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Fifteen: Sara SmileThis week we are joined by the official research executive to the podcast, Sarah Wilson. As a well-respected union organizer in San Francisco, Sarah brings a fantastic perspective to topics ranging from body autonomy and what’s happening in the supreme court to vodka-based cocktails and songwriter extraordinaire Sara Allen. Do Aretha Franklin and Maya Angelou make their way into the conversation? Of course they do! 2022-05-0853 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Fourteen: Adult EducationThis week we chat with teacher, writer, and Hall and Oates lover, Liz Ganem, about the song Adult Education. We discuss sex education in the schools, the fascinating nature of the video and its director Tim Pope, and how much we love Nile Rodgers and his contribution to the original guitar sounds. This episode is unofficially brought to you by Luxardo Cherries and our love of Amy Sedaris.2022-05-011h 00
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Thirteen: You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' (For the Grammys)We are blown away that Daryl Hall and John Oates have never won a Grammy! They have been nominated five times for the most random things, and the fact that they don't have one is insanity. Let it be known we will be launching a protest/flash mob outside the Grammy museum, so we will meet you there. Bring your signs and wear a mustache!2022-04-2228 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Twelve: One On One, Part 2This week’s conversation was so amazing we went on and on! Lucky you, now you have TWO episodes with the amazing Kevin Avery. We discuss Hall and Oates singing with their idols, Eddie Kendrick and David Ruffin, and you can find out how our conversation with Kevin Avery manages to connect NKOTB, Tammy Faye Baker, and the Transformers back to Hall and Oates.2022-04-1558 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Eleven: One On One, Part 1This week’s conversation was so amazing we went on and on! Lucky you, now you have TWO episodes with the amazing Kevin Avery. We consider the intimate sports metaphor hit One on One as we begin to dig into Hall and Oates’s deep connection to The Temptatations. Our guest, comedian, writer, and vocalist/dancer (who we believe holds an honorary doctorate in New Edition studies), Kevin Avery, shares his expertise on singing groups and their important distinction from boy bands.2022-04-151h 08
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Ten: Do What You Want, Be What You Are + EuphoriaThis week we explore the heavy presence of Hall and Oates in Season Two of Euphoria on HBO. Mary Kay has a strong theory about one of the characters, and we bring in some zoomers/teens to help us flush it out. As always, we learn something new and valuable from Dr. Naomi, while sipping coconut rum with coke because...high school. 2022-04-0944 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Nine: ManeaterThis week we cover Maneater with our friend, Alexandra Freedman, who is a fellow New Mexican and friend from childhood. This song brings up everything from Flashdance and feminism to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and absinthe. Most importantly, this song introduces us to a new musical favorite, Saxsquatch, and reminds us that John Oates has an amazing sense of humor.2022-04-021h 05
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Eight: Everytime You Go AwayOur guest, Paul Phojanakong, is an avid oldies music enthusiast and karaoke performer extraordinaire. In addition to working at UCSF, he enjoys watching obscure sports, riding his bike, and talking about the curly mullet he had as a child. Paul’s Filipino heritage and love of Hall and Oates brings many fascinating topics to the table as we discuss the Toronto Leafs, Silk Sonic, and the song “Everytime You Go Away” (yes, both versions). Does it bother MK that EVERYTIME is one word? Yes, yes it does.2022-03-271h 05
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Seven: I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)This episode addresses the burning question haunting us since we conceptualized this podcast: are we gonna get in trouble (sued)? Because "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)!" Our guest, IP lawyer Jen Kash, not only answers that question, she provides insight into several legal cases surrounding Hall and Oates involving their relationship with each other, the music industry, tarot cards, and granola. And of course, we analyze the amazing song "No puedo ir por eso (no puedo)."2022-03-181h 00
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Six: Syllabus, Whole OatsThis week we sift through the album Whole Oats one song at a time. We begin part one of many conversations about Arif Mardin, and laugh at potential song inspirations like The Golden Girls, Muppets, Nico, and Joni Mitchell. Plus we may toss in a little ASMR along the way! This episode brought to you by Naomi's Wildfang overalls (not an ad). 2022-03-1346 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Five: Possession ObsessionThis week we tackle two themes with our guest, writer, and reality tv producer Jeanette Scherrer. First, we go deep into an example of a rare Oates-fronted song, Possession Obsession. We consider the musical influences, lyrical meanings, and the surprisingly progressive depictions of NYC at night through the eyes of Oates as a taxi driver. We also look at Daryl Hall's two endeavors in reality TV, focusing on an episode of Live from Daryl's House featuring Vintage Trouble's lead vocalist, Ty Taylor.2022-03-0658 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Four: Family ManThis week’s episode takes a fresh look at the song, “Family Man.” Our guest, Stephany Joy Ashley is the former Executive Director of the St James Infirmary which provides free, peer-based medical and social services for current and former sex workers and current writer and strategist focused on reducing poverty, stigma, and criminalization. Stephany’s humor and insight shows us how Hall and Oates turns a bunch of rowdy boys and girls into non-binary youth (with pompadours).2022-02-281h 05
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Three: You Make My Dreams (Come True)Here we consider the robust use of parentheticals in H&O titles. Our guest, Brian Duck, owner of the LA and New York-based management company Atelier, brings his expertise into the fashion featured in the song’s video and offers insight into the hair and, most important, John Oates’s legendary mustache.2022-02-191h 03
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode Two: Laughing BoyOur featured guest is standup comedian Nato Green, who offers a surprising analysis of this little-known song from their second album, Abandoned Luncheonette, which leads us to the mean streets of San Francisco’s Tenderloin district.2022-02-1347 min
Out of Touch: A Hall and Oates PodcastEpisode One: Out of TouchWelcome to the Hall and Oates lovefest! Meet Naomi and Mary Kay, hear a little about how they met and their love of the band. This episode delves into the burning questions at the heart of our endeavor. Why Hall and Oates? Why are we doing this? Why now?2022-02-0750 min