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I'M SO POPULARA BEAST IN THE WEB with matthew denicolaPhotographer and host of The Salt Box Matthew Denicola joins to discuss the mimetic nightmare, ecstasy and American maximalism of Jimmy Donaldson, aka MR. BEAST + his stupefying reality competition game show BEAST GAMES (2024年〜).
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2025-02-271h 14
System of SystemsPREVIEW Roll the Black Dice (w/ Bjorn Copeland)Bjorn Copeland is a mixed media artist, sculptor, and musician perhaps best known as a founding member of the long-lived and ever shapeshifting experimental rock group Black Dice. FULL EPISODE Soundtrack: Black Dice "Seabirds" Black Dice "Re-Reading" Wolf Eyes "Black Vomit" Aaliyah "Are You that Somebody" Masonna "Untitled" Burning Spear "The Ghost" Black Dice "Chicken Shit" OUTRO: Britney Spears "I'm a Slave 4 U" LINKS: Bjorn interview Black Dice Black Dice Interview
2024-05-0312 min
System of SystemsSafety Propaganda 101At the end of 2023, Adam took to the podium to explain the Safety Propaganda ideology and the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde to a small but captivated audience. This event was sponsored by UNCENSORED NY
2024-04-241h 17
System of SystemsSafety Propaganda 101At the end of 2023, Adam took to the podium to explain the Safety Propaganda ideology and the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde to a small but captivated audience. This event was sponsored by UNCENSORED NY
2024-04-231h 23
System of SystemsWeebed OutAdam is back from Japan: tales of shopping, noise, fem-boys, etc OST Merging Moon "Blackout before Shadow" Prurient and Linkekraft "Container of Souls" Beherit "Sadomatic Rights" LLoyd Banks "Empathy" Blancmange "Living on the calling" LINKS: Hospital NWN Fest
2024-04-221h 23
System of SystemsPREVIEW DECA DYKEShortly before Adam's journey to Japan, he and Matthew discuss two trashy arthouse thrillers from the past and present: Ingmar Bergman's 1980 made for TV movie From the Life of the Marionettes and Rose Glass' 2024 bodybuilding lesbian romance thriller Love Lies Bleeding. From the Life of the Marionettes is a disturbing slow burn of a masterpiece – restrained and haunting in equal measure. Love Lies Bleeding, however, takes a good narrative conceit and then destroys it with every Tumblr millennial girl trapping: shallow Lynch wannabe surrealism, style suffocating substance, and an obnoxious girl power message. It also owes Adam ro...
2024-04-0214 min
System of SystemsSpiced Out (W/ Benjamin Braddock and Monica Milkers)Dune: Part 2, Denis Villeneuve's second half of his adaptation of Frank Herbet's sci-fi masterpiece Dune, is out. It's huge. Everyone has an opinion. So do we. Dr. Benjamin Braddock and Mommy Milkers join the show to discuss the film. SOUNDTRACK: Herbie Hancock "Watermelon Man" Reverend Bizarre "In the Victory of" John Frusciante "God" UGK "Pocket Full of Stones" Hans Zimmer "Eclipse" LINKS: Ben at X: @graduatedben Monica at X: @MochaK92
2024-03-141h 28
System of SystemsThe Avatar is a Pornographer (w/ Emma Stern)A week before the opening of her exhibition the Pond Society in Shanghai, artist Emma Stern discusses her work, porn, ABBA and the creation of avatars. Matthew Denicola is the new producer and co-host of SOS by SP. We thank Will Samson for his two years of work Soundtrack Y$ "Back to Me" Controlled Bleeding "Fat Bird Curd" Blue Cheer "Out of Focus" Omni Trio "Mainline" Abba "Take a Chance on Me" LINKS: Follow Emma on Instagram Follow Emma on Twitter "Eulogy for the Male Gaze...
2024-03-011h 21
System of SystemsPREVIEW Welcome to Helltown (W/ Edward Giles and Max Julian Eastman) Conceptual artist, musician, and founding member of iconic NYC power electronics group Final Solution, Edward Giles, joins the Safety Propaganda network. The primary topic is the reissue of Edward's industrial project Helltown Inc on former guest Max Julian Eastman's label. The release not only comes with hours of music, art inserts and otherwise, but a memoir of sorts in which Edward recounts the underground culture of New York of the '80s. Edward and Max discuss the release of Helltown Inc and Edward discusses his history in art, losing his friends and bandmates from Final Solution, and his overall viewpoints...
2024-01-2920 min
System of SystemsPREVIEW Barney Does it All (W/ Bjarne Melgaard)Regularly referred to as "The most famous Nordic Artist since Edvard Munch," painter, sculptor, filmmaker and installation artist Bjarne Megaard joins the audiocast to dish on decades in the art world. Topics covered: Bjarne's new film Barney Does it All based on his time as a whore in Sydney, his interview with porno actress Rae Lil Black in the new issue of Richardson Mag, the perpetual antagonism between him at the art world and the cowardice of curators, his former financial backers who fucked him out of millions, drug addiction, ketamine therapy, fashion, anabolic steroids and...
2024-01-151h 01
System of SystemsPoor Greek (W/Zane)Yorgos Lanthimos has not been a preferred filmmaker of the Safety Propaganda universe. Too self-consciously "weird". Too Letterboxd. His new film Poor Things, starring Emma Stone in a virtuosic performance as a young woman with the brain of an infant, is a comic masterpiece. Based on a story by surrealist Scottish author Alsadair Gray, 'Poor Things' is an absolute delight to watch. Riotously funny. A must-see. Joining us to discuss this massive leap in Lanthimos' artistry, as well as other new films (The Iron Claw, The Zone of Interest etc,) is our friend Zane. A true...
2024-01-101h 34
System of SystemsKanye Versus the Vultures (w/ Matthew Denicola)Kanye is trying to release a new record, Vultures, with Ty Dolla $ign, and his enemies are refusing to get its samples cleared, leaving the record unreleased. Kanye, of course, isn't staying quiet about what's happening behind the scenes, and treated the world to a 15 minute rant against his many enemies, ranging from LVMH CEO Bernard Arnaut, the Rothschilds, Jay-Z, and Drake among them, as well as the abandonment of the family that has left him adrift. It's powerful stuff, and of course he isn't exactly taking it easy on Zionists either. The controversy and aura...
2023-12-231h 50
System of SystemsPREVIEW Life Long Insomniac (W/ Stephen Tunney AKA Dogbowl)At the end of November, friends of SP Newton Gallery hosted an exhibition of paintings and cartoons by American artist Stephen Tunney. Many of those in attendance likely had no idea that these disorienting, vivid, and fantastical images were made by the same Stephen Tunney behind the indie rock solo project Dogbowl. When Stephen plugged his guitar in to perform some of those songs, the image completed itself. Indeed, Tunney has had a long and fascinating career, from playing guitar with cult band King Missile, recording with godhead of New York weird music Kramer, writing w...
2023-12-1214 min
System of SystemsOlympian Fall (W/ Laje Amare and William Landry) We are now a few weeks passed the 2023 Mr. Olympia contest. Bodybuilding seems to have reached its pinnacle, with Phil Heath being the champion who set the standard for what a bodybuilder should look like in the 2010s. Since then, conditioning has gone down hill, no one is getting in shape, and the one guy who does get in shape (Nick Walker) was injured right before the show, tragically. To discuss all of this, Adam brings on music producer and bodybuilding enthusiast Laje Amare and competitive bodybuilder William Landry. Note: I fully understand that most of our audience will have...
2023-11-271h 27
System of SystemsWorshipping at the Alter of the Boul God (W/ Boul God Records)Boul God records is a Philadelphia-based bizarre music label that traffics in all manner of surreal and mind-bending contemporary styles of music. From the cavernous, early Death in June influenced post-punk/neofolk of Gorseddd FM, to the disorienting blend of head fucked techno and garbled BM vocals of Grail Wizard, to the brutal and frightening electronics of Incluse, to the dadaist, Kiwi-influenced fucked guitar pop of Flying Mausoleum , Boul God is less concerned with genre than it is the cultivation of an AESTHETIC and an atmosphere. You see, underground labels function best when they are approached as conceptual art...
2023-11-131h 10
System of SystemsAnd Usually Just a Syringe (with Conor Tomaka)Artist, musician, academic, and member of legacy American experimental band ONO Conor Tomaka joins the show once more, but with a specific purpose this time around. John Frusciante is already a God-level figure in the oeuvre of Safety Propaganda, but this time we are going back to the virtuoso guitarist of the Chili Peppers and experimental solo artist's infamous and masterful first two albums: Niandra Lades and Usually just a T-Shirt and Smile from the Streets you Hold. Both of these albums were recorded on a 4-track tape recorded in the early '90s when Frusciante was...
2023-11-061h 14
System of SystemsLoads All Over Anne Hathaway (w/ Ryan Simon)Montana's most avant-garde good ol' boy and the editor of the magazine American Vulgaria, Ryan Simón, joins the show to discuss him and Adam's adventures in Los Angeles, Terry Richardson, art history as a history of cooming, and the circumstances and horniness that led to the creation of his magazine. SOUNDTRACK: Home Blitz "Home" Christ Agony "Inceremonial" Aphex Twin "Xtal" Lungfish "Samuel" Charley Patton "Tom Rushen Blues" Duffy Power "Love's Gonna Go" LINKS: American Vulgaria Magazine Follow Ryan Simón on X: @ryandsimon Follow American Vulgaria on Instagram: @americanvulgaria Ryan interviews Adam for...
2023-10-121h 42
System of SystemsPREVIEW Crankn Nuts (W/ Dan Baltic)Dan Baltic, writer and co-host of the New Write podcast, releases his debut novel Nutcrankr for Terrorhouse Press. It is a contemporary novel about masculinity and male delusion; one man's plummet into debasement. Baltic joins the show to discuss the novel, masculinity, cope, writing, classic rock, some other stuff, I can't remember. FULL EPISODE HERE LINKS: Nutcrankr New Write Pod New Write on Twitter: @NewWritePod Dan on Twitter: @baltic_dan Watch Adam's short play, Celebutante Rape Therapy
2023-10-0417 min
System of SystemsAt the Wall of Transgression: A Whitehouse Retrospective (W/ Xylon Otterburn)Adam has been re-reading David Keenan's historical biography on the rise of Industrial Music, England's Hidden Riverse, after it was re-published with extended material over the summer. That book primarily looks at the rise and legacies of Coil, Nurse with Wound, and Current 93 (and suspiciously, only passingly mentions Douglas Pearce and Death in June.) There is also, however, a plethora of material dedicated to William Bennett and what led the British artist to create the pioneering power electronics project Whitehouse. Formed by Bennett in 1980 and joined by Philip Best in the '80s and Peter Sotos in the '90...
2023-09-051h 51
System of SystemsPREVIEW New Millennium Men (w/ Alex Kazemi)Writer Alex Kazemi wrote his first novel, Your Truly, Brad Sela, back in 2013 when he was only 19-years-old. In a true time capsule of the 2010s, Alex published an excerpt of that manuscript on his Tumblr page, and it exploded. He got 132,000 views and signed a book deal with MTV Books. For whatever reason or another, the book didn't come out when it was planned for. Instead, Alex embarked on several interesting projects in the media: contributing to magazines such as The Observer, Dazed and Autre, working as managing editor at Prim Magazine, releasing a series of video ads...
2023-08-2843 min
The Getting Lit PodcastHotel Hell feat. Matthew DeNicolaSend us a textPhotographer, musician, and podcaster Matthew DeNicola joins me for a discussion on Stephen King's haunted hotel short story "1408" and an exhaustive dissection of probably my favourite reality television makeover show, Gordon Ramsay's Hotel Hell (2012-2016).Matthew's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattiopattio/Matthew's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattiopattioListen to his podcast, The Saltbox: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesaltboxSupport the show
2023-08-211h 50
System of SystemsPREVIEW The Death of a Socerer (W/ Bradford Kessler and Benjamin Kellogg)One of the greatest American film artists, William Friedkin, has passed away at the age of 87. The son of Ukrainian Jewish immigrant parents (who fled their country after the antisemitic pogroms of the early 20th Century), Friedkin was a shitty student and a great basketball player until he discovered cinema in the '60s. He then rose from a Hollywood journeyman doing shitty films for studios until it all came together with The French Connection and the greatest horror film of all time in The Exorcist. Friedkin would evolve from being the most celebrated auteur in America, to a...
2023-08-1711 min
System of SystemsAll Along the Lonesome County Highway (W/ Walter Kirn)Celebrated novelist and essayist Walter Kirn, author of works of fiction like Up in the Air and non-fiction such as Lost in the Meritocracy and veteran of major media outlets ranging from GQ to Esquire to Vanity Fair and beyond, has seen his place in the media landscape evolve in the last few years since he was early to recognize the truth about the hysteria driving the Covid "pandemic". Since then, he's written important essays for Compact (where Adam has a monthly column) and started a podcast with Matt Taibbi called America this Week. Most recently, Kirn...
2023-08-111h 44
System of SystemsPREVIEW Married Mid (w/ Scott Litts)Scott Litts is a New York-based writer, linked tangentially to Expat Press who also publishes a literary site called Violence Café. While the reason for this discussion was Scott's excellent piece on the Angelicism01 movie, Film01, we ended up discussing drugs and writing far more. FULL EPISODE Links: Follow Scott on Twitter: @cafeviolenza Scott on Film01 Café Violenza
2023-07-2714 min
System of SystemsFucked Up in 20 Different Ways (w/ Jack Skelley)Jack Skelley is a writer and a poet that has been publishing books since the 1980s. His career began in the early '80s in LA when he worked at the Venice-based literary and arts center Beyond Baroque. Beyond Baroque was put on the map by Dennis Cooper who created a scene around it that included late poet and performance artist Bob Flanagan, the late conceptual artist Mike Kelley, the hilarious late poet Ed Smith, Guggenheim Fellowship winning poet Amy Gerstler, painter and novelist Benjamin Weissman, and Jack himself. The crux of this conversation revolves around the...
2023-07-121h 27
System of SystemsPREVIEW Rapedman (w/ Damen Corrado)Damen Corrado is a Chicago-based writer and actor with old school links to Adam Parfrey and the broader American underground. In 2019, the late Parfrey's Feral House publishing imprint published a book co-written by Damen and James "Jinx" O'Connor. Entitled Compliments of Chicagohoodz: "A rare, private collection of photos, calling cards, and ephemera serves that analyzes the unique visual language and graphics of Chicago’s gangs, drawing upon decades of interviews, documentation, and collecting of memorabilia, and featuring commentary from gang members and Chicago artists." Here we discuss that book, Adam's kneejerk contempt for graffiti, Dean Koontz, the ev...
2023-07-0610 min
System of SystemsProbable Mossad (W/ Thomas Moore and Audrey Szasz)Writers Audrey Szasz and Thomas Moore have both just released new novels for Philip Best's Amphetamine Sulphate. Audrey's novel is called Counterillumination, a wildly psychedelic collection of prose where agents and counter-agents wage psychological warfare upon one another against an abstract dystopic landscape. It's rather hard to describe so I suggest you just read it. Thomas's new book is Your Dreams – perhaps the author's best exploration of the human need for connection and understanding with a protagonist forced to come to terms with a friend's disturbing desires. The three of us discuss those new books, as well as...
2023-06-282h 01
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Ritualistic Humilation (W/ Sven Loven)Artist Sven Loven joins Adam in his living room where they consume edibles and discuss Sven's new show, 'Humiliation Ritual', at No Gallery in New York. For the exhibition, Sven turned to portraiture and creates a time capsule, or perhaps a capsule of a moment in which time has lost meaning, of the Dimes Square meme. Subjects include: Black Dean Kissick, Art Basel Miami stabber Siyuan Zhao, Reena Spaulings Gallery and Dimes Square spiritual mother Emily Sundblad, Peter Thiel as angel, and more. Exhibition texts are written by previous guest Dana Dawud and Sierra Armor. Sven and I discuss...
2023-06-2415 min
System of SystemsCommunication Medium (W/ Max Julian Eastman)Max Julian Eastman is a noise musician known for recording music under his own name and with projects like Greathumour and Tantric Death as well as the proprietor of what we consider to be one of the best American noise labels currently in existence. In contra to countless other labels that endlessly put out everything that comes out of "the scene", Max approaches Tribe Tapes with an aesthetic and conceptual theory. There is a general sense of discovery here, with reissues of artists that you certainly have never heard of, and a strong, unmistakable visual aesthetic. A welcome addition...
2023-05-251h 22
System of SystemsPREVIEW Fantasy Core is Over (W/ Grant Tyler)Our friend from Los Angeles, the curator of the new LA gallery Imperial as well as online editor of Caesura Magazine Grant Tyler, joins the show to discuss the inability of the modern subject to properly look at art, the genius of Cezanne, Giacometti, Cy Twombly, the most consequential historical pinpoints of the last 50 years, the art world after the pandemic, Kanye (always some Kanye) and so much more. SOUNDTRACK Eric's Trip "Follow" Seigneur Voland "et autres germes de pourriture" Eyeless in Gaza "The Decoration" Smell and Quim "Anatomy Shatterme" The Homosexuals "My Night Out" L...
2023-04-2815 min
System of SystemsAspirational Mid (w/ Eva and Elena Sullivan)During Art Basel Miami Beach 2022, Hadrian Belove asked Adam to meet up with him at Soho House, where he was with two young ladies Eva and Elena Sullivan. When Adam arrived, he was immediately taken with the gals' intelligence and savvy. Turns out, Eva and Elena are fashion designers behind the new brand Sullivan, which creates beautiful and elegant clothing for women at a price point that is much less depressing than something like, say, The Row. Given that we seldom discuss fashion around here despite an interest in the industry, who better to come on than...
2023-04-201h 50
System of SystemsUNLOCKED Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever favorite band The Smashing Pumpkins. But that's exactly who it was. Billy had read Adam's 2021 book 'Communions' and, from there, a creative camaraderie developed. Now, Billy is on SOS by SP and completing the circle. Here, the icon of rock discusses fatherhood, the experience of being at the zeitgeist only to watch the zeitgeist fracture and tether, the new Smashing...
2023-04-181h 50
System of SystemsRaver Symbolism (W/ Tom Koehler)Friend of the show and visual artist Tom Koehler brings Adam into his studio in Ridgewood, shows him some new landscape paintings, and discusses his art, the gallery that he runs, plastic surgery, weed paranoia, quitting nicotine, and even his stint as a member of the power electronics group Sharpwaist. Dig on it... SOUNDTRACK: Sharpwaist "Amyl Nitrate" (attached) The Sadist "Penis in Pussy" (attached) Ravendark's Monarhical Canticle "Anti-Hunamismo Patrio" (attached) Alternative TV "Why Don't you do me Right" Criminal Mafia "Eternal Sleep" The 28th Day "25 Pills" LINKS: Tom at Instagram: @dieamerican Studio visit with Tom Tom...
2023-04-031h 32
System of SystemsRiding the Trenwave: Safety Propaganda Records (W/ Zac Davis)What started as a Substack and a podcast but became a prolonged conceptual art project IS NOW a full-circuit multimedia assault! Making good on his promise to broaden Safety Propaganda's reach, Adam launches SAFETY PROPAGANDA RECORDS in more attempts to aesthetically unbrainwash the masses. Text, image and NOW SOUND to break the programming and see the truth, for real. And who better to launch the label with than one of our best friends Zac Davis, he of Lambsbread and assorted experimental noise and punk rock fame, with a new project: Clearance. The Clearance record is called, appropriately...
2023-03-241h 22
System of SystemsShadow Ring Covers (W/ Eric Schmid and Connor Tomaka) Artist/philosopher/mathematician Eric Schmid and artist, researcher, and member of industrial music collective Ono Connor Tomaka join SOS by SP. We discuss Connor and Eric's recent collaborative essay on Dimes Square, in my mind the only one of many Dimes thinky pieces to get it right, as well as the connections between mathematics and art, Reza, Brassier, the state of noise music, Shadow Ring covers, Fassbinder, and a whole lot more... Soundtrack: Mauthausen Orchestra "The Hole" (attached) Shadow Ring "Brainage" Russell Haswell "One take Tub" The Deviants "Child of the Sky" John Frusciante "Estrus" The Gerogerigegege "...
2023-03-141h 49
System of SystemsPREVIEW Fear of Lewdness (w/ Cliff Sargent) Cliff Sargent runs the very popular Youtube literary show Better than Food where he offers his candid thoughts on the books he reads. He has excellent taste, and is capable of communicating his thoughts in a refreshingly legible manner: Bataille, Clarice Lispector, Cormac McCarthy and even Adam have all been reviewed on his show (and his influence is proven by the spike in book sales Communications enjoyed following his review.) Here, Adam and Cliff talk about Bataille, books, black metal, bodybuilding, and more, baby! Always more. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Type O Negative "Christian Woman"Rude 66 "...
2023-02-2713 min
System of SystemsRomping and Stomping (w/ Marika Thunder)Marika Thunder is a New York-based artist who befriended the crew somewhere during the pandemic. Here, her and Adam discuss heroin, hard drugs, creative development, and Marika regales him with tales of her bohemian childhood as the only daughter of visual artist Rita Ackermann and experimental musician David Nuss... OST: Spike in Vain "God on Drugs" https://music.apple.com/us/album/god-on-drugs/1556150663?i=1556150666 The Sensational Alex Harvey Band "Rock and Rool" https://music.apple.com/us/album/rock-rool-remastered-2002/1575434405?i=1575434590 Bushwick Bill "Ever so Clear" https://music.apple.com/us/album/ever-so-clear/698937345?i=698937498 Skrewdriver "Pulling on the Bo...
2023-02-211h 56
System of SystemsCopenhagen Cowpunks (W/ Bradford Kessler and Glen Rockney)In this episode, brothers in arms Adam, Will, artist Bradford Kessler and Rare Candy co-host Glen Rockney convene to discuss Nicolas Winding Refn's new six-hour Netflix series Copenhagen Cowboy, and the broader career arc of the Danish auteur. Other topics include feminism, bodybuilding, Friedkin,Spengler, and I don't remember what else. Love. Hate. Can ya feel it? CAN YOU FEEL IT? SOUNDTRACK: Cliff Martinez "Miu Stretches" The Skeptics "Notice" Aaliyah "Are you that Somebody" Anti-Cimex "Victims of a Bombraid" Thy Serpent "Curtain of Treachery" OUTRO Sisters of Mercy "More" LINKS: Bradford Kessler artist page...
2023-01-271h 36
The Perfume NationalistEmily in Paris (w/ Matthew DeNicola) **TEASER**Coco Mademoiselle by Chanel (2001) + Darren Star's Emily in Paris (2020- ) with Matthew DeNicola of The Saltbox To hear this episode and the complete continuing story of The Perfume Nationalist please subscribe on Patreon. 1/19/22 S5E18
2023-01-2203 min
System of SystemsPREVIEW Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever favorite band The Smashing Pumpkins. But that's exactly who it was. Billy had read Adam's 2021 book 'Communions' and, from there, a creative camaraderie developed. Now, Billy is on SOS by SP and completing the circle. Here, the icon of rock discusses fatherhood, the experience of being at the zeitgeist only to watch the zeitgeist fracture and tether, the...
2023-01-0921 min
System of SystemsEmperor Bezos (W/ Lev Parker)Old friend, colleague within the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde, and editor of Morbid Books Lev Parker stops by SOS by SP once more to discuss collaborating with Adam on the Morbid Books-published Safety Propaganda Manifesto for Conceptual Warfare. There is also much discussion about the absolute collapse of competence in the modern world, and the possibility that a Bezos emperorship might be the only thing that can make things work again. Finally, Lev talks about his collaborative musical and multimedia project with Saul from the Fat White Family: The Patheticist Manifesto. SOUNDTRACK Excerpt from the Patheticist Manifesto...
2023-01-061h 54
System of SystemsPREVIEW Flame it All (W/ Kevin Kautzman and Brad Kelly)The men of Art of Darkness podcast, Brad Kelly and Kevin Kautzman, join Adam to discuss Kanye and the legacy of endurance based performance art, the appeal of performance enhancing drugs, the late playwright Sarah Kane, Emil Cioran and the upcoming third season of their show. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Outpatients "TV Violence" Big Flame "Debra" Radical Retards "Elvis" DJ Freak "Analogue Terror" Ike and Tina "I Idolize You" LINKS: Art of Darkness at Twitter: @artofdarkpod Kevin at Twitter: @kautzmania Brad at Twitter: @bra...
2022-12-1614 min
System of SystemsConservacucking (w/ Glen Rockney)Old friend Glen of Rare Candy and Back Wall pods joins us once again to further stuff the digital void with some more content: Balenciaga, pedos, Kanye. You know the drill. Soundtrack: Hunting Lodge "Shadow out of TIme" Seigneur Voland "Ma Necropole" Kevin Coyne "Eastbourne Ladies" Tav Falco Panther Burns "Bourgeois Blues" Bone Crusher "Never Scared" LINKS: Glen Twitter: @GlenRockney Rare Candy: @RareCandyPod1 Rare Candy Podcast
2022-12-081h 34
System of SystemsMostly Gut and Nut (W/ Kevin Tobin)Friend, artist, and the lone homosexual attendee of Adam's bachelor party Kevin Tobin joins SOS by SP. We discuss his current solo show at Lubov Gallery, his unique marital situation, art world lore, and the absolute worst in contemporary painting. SOUNDTRACK: Die Kombination "Leibenbluster" Normil Hawaiians "Martin" Ectomorph "In Dreams" Eric's Trip "Eyes Shut" OUTRO Kevin Tobin and Jesse Siminski "Abigil IsIsn't Real" LINKS: Kevin Tobin at Lubov Kevin Tobin interview at Safety Propaganda
2022-10-251h 49
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Damaged Blonde Ambition (W/ Jack Mason and Filthy Armenian)Enlisting the incendiary voices of old friends Filthy Armenian, of Filthy Armenian's Adventures and the Back Wall, and Jack Mason, of the Perfume Nationalist, the conversation turns towards the formerly retired pop cultural trope that is the damaged blonde, once again alive and well! Two of the most discussed cultural artifacts right now revive the damaged blonde to Promethean proportions! First, we have Ryan Murphy's new Netflix series, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, in which Evan Peters the titular iconic cannibalistic serial killer. A disjointed and weird program, the show often feels like two diametrically...
2022-10-0608 min
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Hellenic Glory (W/ Zach Brown)Adam has returned from his travels abroad. To inaugurate the return of System of Systems by Safety Propaganda, artist Zach Brown joins the show to discuss his work, his time at RISD, pussy, travel, Melrose Place, Vince Gilligan, ancient Greece and more. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Beat Happening "You Turn me On" Bruno Cossano "Violent Desire" Nation of Ulysses "Spectra Sonic Sound" Boyd Rice "Silence is Golden" Mgla "Groza II" Mott the Hoople "Thunderbuck Ram" LINKS: Zach Brown's website Zach Brown Instagram
2022-09-2316 min
System of SystemsImmersed in Death (W/ Worth)Adam speaks with American harsh noise master Worth, aka William Van Gorder, who has a new record on White Centipede Noise called Sacred Violence Noise. Will recorded the album while on residency in Thailand, and throughout the conversation relays the experiences he had there and in his Southeast Asia journey more broadly. What is it like to make noise for an audience that has no fucking clue what is happening? MAGIC! Duh. Talking about Thailand and Southeast Asia leads these two artists to discussion of another shared interest: writer New Juche. Juche is also an artist who finds transcendence...
2022-08-271h 21
System of SystemsA Chance Meeting: NWW List (w/ Easy Listening)In 1978, UK industrial and experimental music pioneers Nurse With Wound, then a collaborative effort between multiple musicians before Steven Stapleton would turn the project into his braintrust some years later, released its debut album Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella. That record, the title of which references an excerpt of Comte de Lautréamont's Les Chants de Maldoror, is one of the primary influences on all that which would later be known as industrial, experimental, or noise music from that point on. More important than the album, however, is its l...
2022-08-221h 32
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Satanic Art Phag Propaganda (W/ Psyop Resistor)A long anticipated episode, Adam and crew delve into the history and culture of black metal, enlisting the help of metalhead Psyop Resistor. The crew explains how they came to find intrigue in the genre, and then dive into some of their favorite and most evil albums of the canon. FULL EPISODE SOUNDTRACK: (Psyop's pick) Vothana "Vi Muon Tra Thuo" (Adam's pick)Torgeist "Devoted to Satan" (Psyop's pick)Hate Forest "Elder Race" Boyd Rice "An Eye for an Eye" (Adam's pick) Abruptum "Feci Factum Sanguine Gladios Made Fieri Factus" (Psyop's pick)Arizmenda "Beyond the Shadows...
2022-08-0310 min
System of Systems(TEASER) Anal Blunt (W/ JJ Ruiz)JJ Ruiz is an Austin-based musician who has played with several punk and hardcore bands since the 2000s. With one of those bands, Naw Dude, he opened for Anal Cunt. In this episode, he relays his stories about AC's late iconic frontman and one of the greatest American performance artists of the last two decades Seth Putnam. This episode is all about Seth, an artist as important to us as Vito Acconci or Wyndham Lewis, for real. FULL EPISODE SOUNDTRACK: Anal Cunt "Grateful Dead" Shit Scum "Brady Bunch Massacre" Full Blown A.I.D.S. "...
2022-07-2713 min
System of SystemsReady to Fight (W/ Udith Dematagoda)Writer, Hyperidean Press publisher, and Adam's editor Udith Dematagoda joins the show once more. This time we're discussing the cultural resonance of Fight Club over 25 years down the line, and the importance of revolutionary violence to the masculine psyche. Other topics include the mindblowing year for American indie film that was 1999, Ukraine, why BAP is the Rob Halford of pseudo-philosophy, and some other shit. SOUNDTRACK: Los Llamarada "Gone Gone Cold" Blod "Raw Meat Perfume" Arditi "Legionnaires" Clandestine Blaze "Chambers" Negative Approach "Ready to Fight" LINKS: Follow Udith at Twitter: @Udematagoda Hyperidean Press Anti-Cringe, by...
2022-07-261h 29
System of SystemsThe Diving Man (W/ Brad Kelly)Writer and co-host of the Art of Darkness podcast Brad Kelly is here. Brad's writing plays with the genre of sci-fi and pushes it to the outer realms of the weird, as evinced by his latest novel 'House of Sleep' from 2021. Here we discuss that novel, sci-fi, Phillip K. Dick, and more, as well as the opioid epidemic, Jim Jones and the People's Temple and Baz Luhrmann's Elvis biopic. Soundtrack: Plastikman "Outbak" Circle X "Current" Bobby Beausoleil "Hellion Rebellion" KMD "What a Nigga Know" Intolitarian "Allegiance to the Self" Elvis Presley "U...
2022-07-161h 52
System of SystemsNot Human (PREVIEW) (W/ Madeline Kuzak) Prior to the day of our independence, Adam calls up his friend, the artist from Detroit and soon to move to New York Madeline Kuzak. Maddie works in painting and illustration, as well as performance and more conceptual driven work. When Adam introduced his theory of Crytographic Transgressive art in in Amphetamine Sulphate's 'Human Rights' anthology, Maddie was one of the artists he used to bolster his concept. Maddie's work is cloaked in the tropes of femininity, and feminist curators are often all too enthusiastic to drag her work into their theories. But there is actually a very interesting subversion...
2022-07-0511 min
System of SystemsCharlie Sheen's Trigger Threshold (w/ Will Sheldon)Adam and Will are joined by New York-based artist and tattooer Will Sheldon. Will discusses his work with us: paintings and drawings of fantastical and fairy tale imagery but with a uniquely troubling and dark iteration fitting for our times. Will is also a tattooer and in contra to others working between the art world and tattoo culture (others typically tend to make clear distinction between the craft of tattooing and high art OR end up making tattooish art work) manages to create a clear communicative language between art and tattoos. We discuss this idiosyncrasy, Will's recent exhibitions, Will's...
2022-06-261h 29
System of SystemsThe Gay Cowboys of Contemporary Politics (PREVIEW) (W/ Kelby Losack and J. David Osborne)In this episode, Adam and Will are joined by the writers and co-hosts of the Agitator podcast, J. David Osborne and Kelby Losack. Both of these honorable men have new book projects out. Kelby's new novel is 'Letting out the Devils'. And David's new book is a hallucinatory essay called 'You Pray for Dry Weather at the Sight of the Sun'. We discuss those new works, video games, Cronenberg, cooming, and more. This is a preview. Full episode for patrons Soundtrack: Angry Samoans "Wild Hog Rhyde" Archie Shepp "Abstract" Zoviet France "Gesture, S...
2022-06-2210 min
System of SystemsGod Damn It Feels Good to Look Like a Gangsta (PREVIEW) (With Mikey MDC)Mr. Mikey MDC, gangsta' stylist and menswear sartorial genius, joins the program to discuss one of our crypto fascinations: style and fashion. Style icons. Style in films. How do we dress? Is fashion design, at its best, a form of art, or should it be? All this and more. SOUNDTRACK: Masonna - Sonic Devil 1 Darkstyle - Behind the Rainbow Silver Chalice - Hot Tears Stretchheads - Anal Beard William Basinski - Melancholia IV Ghostface Killah - Shakey Dog LINKS: Mikey MDC at Instagram: @mikeymdc https://www.instagram.com/mikeymdc/ Mikey MDC...
2022-06-0710 min
System of SystemsArtaud's Mexico (An Alien Landscape) (W/ DC Miller)Writer and philosopher Daniel Miller joins SOS once more. DC has just returned from an enlightening trip in Mexico where he engaged in Peyote rituals. DC relays us his exploits and discusses the medicinal values of the Peyote cacti. We also discuss Artaud's journeys throughout Mexico, the ego death, the specific metaphysical content of Mexican artists, the end of the Covid psyop and the beginning of the Ukraine psyop, and the inescapable decay of the first world West. SOUNDTRACK: Aggressor "Uncontrolled Desire" Flipper "Way Of The World [Live]" Reversal of Man "Wives Tale" Home Blitz "Bor...
2022-05-211h 52
System of SystemsThe Final Nail (w/ Sean Kilpatrick)The boys are joined by poet and novelist Sean Kilpatrick to discuss the state of literature, the cultural shift, the force feeding of Toni Morrison, Darius James, Charlie Rose, the Northman, Fresh, Jim Goad, the Gen X cool girl era, the Depp/Heard defamation case and the end of #MeToo. Soundtrack: Pichismo "Kontrau" 4A DJ Assault "Mr. Muthafukka" Hegemon "Stigmata" Eugene McDaniels "Outlaw" Blood Axis "The Gospel of Inhumanity" () Black Sabbath "Lord of this World" Links: Sean at Twitter: @Sean_Kilpatrick Sean at Instagram: @shucksabouteverything Sean's blog Sean "Exeunt" Sean on...
2022-05-031h 45
System of SystemsPREVIEW Alien Possessed Demon People (w/ Benjamin Kellogg)Artist Benjamin Kellogg and Adam discuss aliens, conspiracies, getting bogged down in the details, the art world, Lynch, the occult, the uselessness of political philosophy, architecture, and surrealism. Links: Benjamin at Instagram: @benjamin_kellogg Benjamin for Cultured:
2022-04-2812 min
System of SystemsThe Resurrection of St. John (w/ Glen Rockney and Joel Jensen)As many listeners/readers might already know, Adam's favorite musician of all time is John Frusciante. Thus, when the guitarist re-joined Red Hot Chili Peppers for the SECOND TIME, he has left the band twice now (once in 2009 and once in 1993), he was elated. Now, the Chi Peps are back in their true form with their first record featuring John on guitar since their magnum opus double album Stadium Arcadium in 2007. Does it stack up to the band's masterpieces? To investigate, we brought on illustrator Joel Jensen and Rare Candy co-host Glen Rockney. LINKS
2022-04-141h 43
System of SystemsThe Struggler (W/ Joel Jensen)Friend of the show, illustrator, and designer of the logos for both System of Systems and Safety Propaganda joins the show to discuss the legacy of Kentaro Miura a year after the manga legend's death and that of his epic, transcendent, and perfect long-running manga series Berserk. When Miura died in 2021, he had just revealed that Berserk was more than half of the way complete and that he had the rest of the story plotted out. Now the future of Berserk, perhaps the most perfect cultural product of the late 20th and early 21st Centuries, is uncertain. Other topics include...
2022-04-082h 19System of SystemsCollectin' Scalps w/ Stock Pt. 6 (w/ Poorspigga)In the sixth edition of Alex Bienstock's SOS side project, Bienstock and Adam interview compulsive poster and Instagram artist Poorspigga, aka Sofia, discussing the intricacies of posting, when posting becomes a kind of art and how it functions as such, Bataille, being a fed and more. OST: The Chills "Pink Frost" Thrones "Nostos Algos" Mystikal "That's The Nigga" Pharoah Sanders "Love is Here 2" Barathrum "Necromantical Ritual" Bladee "Be Nice 2 Me" LINKS: Sofia at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/poorspigga/?hl=en
2022-04-051h 34
System of SystemsUNLOCKED Kids See Ghost Jail (W/ Berto) We are joined by Berto – the founder and co-creator of Ghost Jail (W/ Ortant and Dillard), the ninth episode of which "Science" is out now and features bits by both Adam and Will, and we discuss Kanye West's post-divorce life, musical interests, the new Batman film and the evolution of superhero films after Joker, the metaphysical castration of male artists, and the future of Berserk after Kentaro Miura's death. SOUNDTRACK: Autechre - Further Eric’s Trip - Universe Prurient - Mask of Claws Forgotten Woods - In My Darkest Visions Buffalo - Freedom ...
2022-03-231h 29
System of SystemsPREVIEW Kids See Ghost Jail (W/ Berto)We are joined by Berto – the founder and co-creator of Ghost Jail (W/ Ortant and Dillard), the ninth episode of which "Science" is out now and features bits by both Adam and Will, and we discuss Kanye West's post-divorce life, musical interests, the new Batman film and the evolution of superhero films after Joker, the metaphysical castration of male artists, and the future of Berserk after Kentaro Miura's death. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Autechre - Further Eric’s Trip - Universe Prurient - Mask of Claws Forgotten Woods - In My Darkest...
2022-03-1414 min
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Collectin' Scalps w/ Stock Pt. 5: Vilified and Demonized (w/ John David Ebert)In the fifth edition of Alex Bienstock's curatorial SOS Side Project, Collectin' Scalps w/ 'Stock, 'Stock and Adam interview the brilliant independent philosopher and poet John David Ebert. The author of books like Art After Metaphysics, and The Age After Catastrophe, Ebert covers a vast array of topics: culture, science-fiction, cinema, ancient myth, modern technology, love and romance and much more. In a fascinating talk, Ebert here outlines the NATO failures that led to the crisis in Ukraine and how it fits into the concept of Hypermodernization, discusses women and sex, and has fascinating things to say about the...
2022-03-0913 min
System of SystemsFurniture Activism (w/ Alex Hampshire)Alex Hampshire is a writer with a cause. Deeply concerned about the unhealthy state of the furniture we live with, he has penned a manifesto of sorts: 'Furniture Activism'. Alex discusses his book and explains how you can change your life just by being more mindful of the furniture that you adorn your living space with. Personal responsibility. Personal responsibility. What's the best piece of furniture? Find out here. SOUNDTRACK: Emerson Lake & Palmer "Lucky Man" Adam and the Ants "Feed me to the Lions" The Fall "R.O.D." XX Committee "Metal Worker"
2022-03-041h 14
System of SystemsRock N' Roll Penal Colony (w/ Matt Fresta)We are joined by Matt Fresta, the editor of the excellent Australia-based zine Rango Tango zine, joins the show. Fresta was a friend and bandmate of the late Brendon Annesley, who published the now iconic Aussie punk zine Negative Guest List. Together, we discuss Annesley's work, the rich history of Aussie rock n' roll, the politics of punk scenes, and more. SOUNDTRACK: SPK - Mekano The Saints - Erotic Neurotic The Birthday Party - Blast Off! (Live) Severed Heads - A Million Angels Venom P. Stinger - My Hole feedtime - Sho...
2022-02-281h 46
System of SystemsUNLOCKED Cinema of Transgression (w/ Michael M. Bilandic)In memoriam to the Cinema of Transgression pioneer Nick Zedd's passing, we have removed the paywall from this episode with filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic Adam and filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic have been mutuals on social media for a little while now, but it wasn't until Mubi recently made Michael's films available on its streaming platform that Adam found himself burning through Michael's work and was thoroughly impressed. A frustrated artist exploits a rural horrorcore group in 'Hellaware', a raving delivery man accidentally kills a famous client in 'Jobe'z World', a performance artist locks himself in a cell...
2022-02-271h 35
System of SystemsPREVIEW Disney Land Death Penalty (w/ Rob Doyle)We are joined by Irish novelist Rob Doyle, who is now best known for his work of delirious auto-fiction Threshold, a series of vignettes documenting the writer's drug usage and travels, and more recently Autobibliography (2021), which collects various essays on books that Rob has held closely throughout his career and becomes a kind of memoir told through the books that made him: Marcus Aurelius, Houellebecq, Nietzsche, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and more. Rob is currently posted up in Sinagapore on a residency, and tells us about the bizarrely functional control society that the city has...
2022-02-2518 min
System of SystemsReality BitesAdam and reoccurring guest host Sandra , the beauty formerly known as Bimbo Ubermensch, discuss reality TV. That's it really. What is reality tv? What is its function? If you are a reality TV producer, please listen to this entire episode. Sandra and I have ideas for the greatest shows that have still never been made. SOUNDTRACK: Deha "Better to Reign in Hell" Boyd Rice & Death in June "Black Sun Rising" Children of the Corn "Down For Mine" Bestial Summoning "Evil Will Prevail" SPK "Victim (live)" S...
2022-02-091h 30
System of Systems(PREVIEW) Filthy Good (w/ Filthy Armenian)Adam and Will are joined by friend Filthy Armenian in the wake of the release of his podcast Filthy Armenian Adventures's recent episode in which Armenian followed Adam around a tour of the New York art world recording the entire ordeal over five hours. It is a truly epic work of audio art, and Armenian's podcast to us represents an exciting new development in the form where a heaping of cinema verité style reportage bleeds into the restrictions of the audio format, creating a surrealist effect that makes for delightfully delirious listening. Due to the podcast discussions, this c...
2022-01-3115 min
System of SystemsCollectin' Scalps w/ 'Stock Pt. 4: Hallucinogenic Figuration (w/ Bradford Kessler) For the fourth edition of Alex Bienstock's SOS side project Collectin' Scalps with 'Stock, Bienstock and Adam interview their friend Bradford Kessler. Kessler, a NY-based artist known for his work in sculpture, painting, illustration, and video, is currently plotting an emergence as a feature film director. The three men discuss their work, drugs, cinema, and the importance of constructing a collective of likeminded creative individuals. SOUNDTRACK: The Virgin Prunes "Don’t Look Back" The Velvet Underground "The Black Angel’s Death Song" live Accept "Demon’s Night" the Shadow Ring "Man" Impetigo "Dis-Organ-Ized" The Sonics "The Witch" LINKS:...
2022-01-241h 43
System of SystemsCinema of Transgression (PREVIEW) (w/ Michael M. Bilandic)Adam and filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic have been mutuals on social media for a little while now, but it wasn't until Mubi recently made Michael's films available on its streaming platform that Adam found himself burning through Michael's work and was thoroughly impressed. A frustrated artist exploits a rural horrorcore group in 'Hellaware', a raving delivery man accidentally kills a famous client in 'Jobe'z World', a performance artist locks himself in a cell as the Floyd riots rage outside in last year's 'Project Space 13'; while taking place in a tightly contained and well-crafted cinema universe, Michael's films mirror the...
2022-01-211h 18
System of SystemsLivin' With a Gun Adam, Will, and Sandra discuss the two most undeniable masterpieces from Van Morrison's oeuvre. Adam had heard Van as a kid, but wouldn't become acquainted with the total mastery and genius of the songwriter until reading Lester Bangs' essay on Van's '67 swan song Astral Weeks and finally listened to the entirety of the record himself. It totally changed his life. Van recorded Astral Weeks, ranked by critics overall as the 4th greatest album of popular music history, when he was only 22 fucking years old! It is shocking the extent to which this young man was in...
2022-01-191h 14
System of SystemsWe Are Avatars (PREVIEW) (w/ Katherine Dee)Happy New Years, Motherfuckers! For the first show of 2022, Adam, Will and reoccurring guest host Sandra are joined by writer Katherine Dee, aka Default Friend, specifically to discuss the limitations of the "dissident" branded publishers that have sprouted up throughout Covid in response to a renewed enthusiasm for anti-mainstream thought. Can there be genuine dissidence when art is tethered to political backing of any kind? Who the fuck knows. Whatever. We also talk about cinema and celebrity and plastic surgery and Zac Efron's fake jaw making him look like a mongoloid. Sorry for...
2022-01-0514 min
System of SystemsCollectin' Scalps with Stock Pt. 3: World's Tiniest Man (w/ Laje Amare) Based swaggot Alex Bienstock produces his third episode of his SOS side-project Collectin' Scalps w/ Stock. In this new episode, 'Stock and Adam interview music producer Laje Amare. What are we talking about here? All sorts of shit: body building, male dysmorphia, vanity, pop music, experimental music, the woes of internet temptations in the world of romance, and the fear of being fat projected as fatphobia. SOUNDTRACK: Laje Amare "Tim Hecker Can Suck My Cock" Autoerotichrist "Slyvania" Anal Massaker "Vision Of Fear" Sadokist "Enter The Devil" Tim Hecker "Chime...
2021-12-241h 14
System of SystemsSour, Bitter, Hateful Loser (W/ Jack and Ortant)In our last main episode of 2021, we are joined by two great men, brothers, and creators of The Perfume Nationalist Jack and Ortant. What the fuck did we talk about? I don't know. Last year, Jack came on the show to discuss our favorite movies of 2020, but we didn't have that many great movies to talk about this year. So, compensating for the lack of good flicks, we talked about other shit. The three season arch of The Perfume Nationalist and the show's bravura third season finale with Zack and Amanda Milius. The long-coming schism in the...
2021-12-211h 53
System of SystemsThe SQ (w/ Beyond Woke and Problematic) (PREVIEW)Meme account extraordinaire Beyond Woke and Problematic Discusses the Thiel/Soros pipelines, Kali Yuga, BAP, Kantbot, and the mesmeric allure and insidious confusion of niche internet ideology. Royal Trux - Teeth (Live) Martin Denny - Little China Doll Kid606 - Going Back To Kali Yuga Mutilation - Born Under The Master’s Spell Agonal Lust - Satan’s Den Pin Group - Hurricane Fighter Plane Rusted Shut - Chemical World Funkadelic - You and Your Folks, Me and My Folks LINKS: BWA...
2021-12-121h 21
System of SystemsThe Persistence of... (W/ Yeerk. P) Friend of the show Yeerk. P joins the show and..... this is a weird conversation to summarize. It started with a thread that Yeerk posited about his belief that techno is a form of hard rock. This led to much discussion about genre, genre codification, the nature of art in late modernity, the persistence of wiggerdom, nu-metal, noise's absorption into broader pop music tendencies, David Lynch, and Antifa's hatred of art. Listen and enjoy, motherfuckers! SOUNDTRACK: Blunt Force Trauma - Schreklichkeit Slipknot - "Prosthetics" Gai - Liar Shackleton - Shimmer, Then Fade Charli XC...
2021-12-101h 24
System of SystemsThe Jouissance of the Micro-Cop UNLOCKED (w/ Nina Power and Lev Parker)In this new episode, Morbid Books editor and writer Lev Parker joins the show for the second time, this time bringing along none other than the divine philosopher and poet Nina Power, who of course just wrote a beautiful afterword for Adam's new book 'Communions'. A wide variety of topics are addressed, from the middle class tendency towards being a micro-cop, to gender extremism, to the role for art against such dismal sociopolitics. Lev has a new novel out called '4th Industrial Revolution Pimp' that none other than NY-based transgressive writer Supervert has called "the first...
2021-12-021h 42
System of SystemsCollectin' Scalps with Stock Pt. 2: Cash Money Thousandaires (w/ Ben Morgan-Cleveland)In Alex Bienstock's second edition of his SOS side project, Collectin' Scalps with Stock, Alex and Adam converse with artist, curator, and former Real Fine Arts co-director Ben Morgan-Cleveland. For 10 years, Ben was the co-proprieter (alongside artist Tyler Dobson) of Real Fine Arts. Arguably the most interesting gallery in New York during the 2010s, Real Fine Arts helped launch the careers of friends of the show and great artists including Mathieu Malouf and Heji Shin, not to mention Sex Magazine editor Asher Penn, Sam Pulitzer, Nicolas Ceccaldi, Maggie Lee and many more. In his own...
2021-11-221h 13
System of SystemsThe Jouissance of the Micro-Cop (PREVIEW) (w/ Nina Power and Lev Parker)In this new episode, Morbid Books editor and writer Lev Parker joins the show for the second time, this time bringing along none other than the divine philosopher and poet Nina Power, who of course just wrote a beautiful afterword for Adam's new book 'Communions'. A wide variety of topics are addressed, from the middle class tendency towards being a micro-cop, to gender extremism, to the role for art against such dismal sociopolitics. Lev has a new novel out called '4th Industrial Revolution Pimp' that none other than NY-based transgressive writer Supervert has called "the first...
2021-11-1815 min
System of SystemsJanie Got a Gun (KYLE IS INNOCENT) (w/ Janie)In this episode, we are joined by Janie, a young poet operating in the realm of Substack and a young singer who recently started posting songs to a Soundcloud page. We discuss poetry here, mostly, everything from Robert Desnos to Ghostface Killah to John Asheberry to Darby Crash, and try and ponder a role for poetry in liquid modernity. Adam also expresses disgust over the politicization of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, and can't believe the erosion of due process that has been leveled at an innocent young man who defended himself against violent assailants. SOUNDTRACK: Alvarius B "...
2021-11-161h 19System of SystemsThe Podcast of Disquiet Pt. 2 (w/ Guest Host Bimbo Ubermensch)We're celebrating Halloween, fear, terror and disquiet for this two part episode folks! Announcing herself as a new reoccurring guest host, fan favorite Bimbo Ubermensch joins Adam and Will to discuss our favorite horror-tinged records and visual art works. Favorite Horrific Records: Adam:Dead Reptile Shrine 'Burning Black Infinity' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bdVJfwmB34) Ligeti 'Volumina 1961-2' (https://youtu.be/wbLcI9-Js0U) Sandra: Halim El-Dabh's 'Crossing Into the Electromagnetic' (https://youtu.be/WR2YprO04zk) Will: Whitehouse 'Quality Time' (https://youtu.be/i4D...
2021-11-011h 53System of SystemsCollectin' Scalps with 'Stock Pt. 1 (w/ Alice Aster)(Preview)In 'Collectin' Scalps with 'Stock', a System of Systems side project, Adam takes second mic handing over creative direction to none other than based swaggot, artist, and former guest Alex Bienstock. In this series, the boys go undercover in the scourges of the New York art world, interviewing friends and foes alike to get to the bottom of the transgressively creative id that drives us to do this shit. In the first episode, we interview artist, puppeteer and sex worker Alice Aster to talk about her work, her philosophy, her side hustles, and more. Enjoy! ...
2021-10-2716 min
System of SystemsThe Podcast of Disquiet Pt. 1 (w/ Guest Host Bimbo Ubermensch)We're celebrating Halloween, fear, terror and disquiet for this two part episode folks! Announcing herself as a new reoccurring guest host, fan favorite Bimbo Ubermensch joins Adam and Will to discuss our favorite horror-tinged novels and films. Tune in next week for part 2, where we will discuss our favorite scary records and visual art works. Favorite Horror Films: Adam: Juraj Herz The CrematorWill: Psychic TV First Transmission, Mr. Bungle "Quote Unquote" video Sandra: Pawel Pawlikowski Ida Favorite Horror Novels: Adam: Arthur Machen The Great God Pan, Gabrielle Wittkop The...
2021-10-221h 39
System of SystemsPiano Studies (W/ Powell) (Preview)PREVIEW (Full Episode on Patreon): Electronic music producer, sound artist, and Diagonal Records head honcho Oscar Powell joins the show to discuss imminent fatherhood, his evolution from a burgeoning global DJ to a muted and surreal sound artist, his new album 'Piano Studies', working alongside the late Editions Mego head and experimental music god Peter Rehberg, drugs/psychedelic limit experiences, and mass media. Full Episode on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/piano-studies-w-57589350?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=postshare Powell "Piano Music 3": https://music.apple.com/us/album/piano-music-3/1576662579?i...
2021-10-1915 min
System of SystemsMany Taints (w/ Blauergeist!)System of Systems, at long last, is back. First things first, Ben AKA the Perpetual Self Optimizer is no longer the producer/co-host, and we want to thank him for all the great work done on this program. Replacing him is none other than former guest Will Samson, who takes over production duties and second mic. Welcome him! In our first episode back, we have Ellroy Boys co-host and Apocalypse Confidential editor Blauergeist! specifically to take on the colossal disaster that is The Sopranos prequel film The Many Saints of Newark. Somehow, as bad as t...
2021-10-141h 24
System of SystemsKanye, Leos, And Contempt For the Middle Class (W/ Bimbo Ubermensch and Ilydivna)In this episode, Adam is joined by Bimbo Ubermensch aka SANDRA and host of the Pleasure Helmet podcast Ilydivna aka Dana to talk about two recent pop culture spectacles equally flawed and fascinating. We are talking about Kanye West's 'DONDA' and the release parties that Kanye threw to celebrate its publication, as well as Leos Carax's new English language Sparks-soundtracked, Adam Driver-starring avant-musical film 'Annette'. While both art works are wildly imperfect, there is something about the spectacle around the art works themselves that creates a Debordian situationist spectacle that demands attention with outré ideas. This is something to b...
2021-09-221h 46
System of SystemsSynthetic Miasma (W/ Will Samson)Writer Will Samson hangs with Adam to discuss Public Enemy, Throbbing Gristle, industrial and rap music more broadly, and his recent article for Apocalypse Confidential. SOUNDTRACK Throbbing Gristle - Discipline (live) https://music.apple.com/us/album/discipline-reprise-live/1412909636?i=1412909785 Throbbing Gristle - Dead Souls Live https://music.apple.com/us/album/dead-souls-live/1412909636?i=1412909776 Captain Beefheart - Dachau Blues https://music.apple.com/us/album/dachau-blues/1579587935?i=1579588371 Pere Ubu - Chinese Radiation https://music.apple.com/us/album/chinese-radiation/1061144951?i=1061144960 Public Enemy Night of the Living Bassheads https://music.apple.com/us/album...
2021-09-141h 31
System of SystemsThe Agony and Ecstasy of THE STOCK (w/ Alex Bienstock)Alex Bienstock is an artist from Brooklyn, a PARTY BOY, a domestically violent sociopath who hates women, a based swaggot, a tender hearted lover of women, a racist, a homophobe, a homo, a hypochondriac who cant get sick, das ubermensch, a jew, an anti semite, the first person to do art ever. THE STOCK! Bienstock is an IRL friend and his new book of writing and illustrations 'Da Bitch Gave Me Jew Balls' is the FIRST PUBLICATION EVER BY ADAM's NEW PUBLISHING IMPRINT SAFETY PROPAGANDA BOOKS. We are out of the first run but we are printing...
2021-08-201h 38
System of SystemsDefinitely Addictive, Very PotentAdam and Ben kick it old school. No guests, all killer, no filler. Topics of discussion include the removal of Ben's wisdom teeth, Benjamin Bratton's Covid totalitarianism advocacy, the rise of a new medical authoritarianism, and the passing of the great musicians Joey Jordison (Slipknot drummer) drummer and Peter Rehberg (electronic music producer PITA). SOUNDTRACK: PITA "Acid Udon": https://music.apple.com/us/album/acid-udon/262236237?i=262236373 Slipknot "Disasterpiece": https://music.apple.com/us/album/acid-udon/262236237?i=262236373 Ultravoxx "Slow Motion": https://music.apple.com/us/album/slow-motion/1444010165?i=1444010336 Sandwell District "I...
2021-08-061h 27
System of SystemsThey're All Gonna Fail (w/ Marc Horowitz) In this exclusive interview, Adam talks to California-based artist Marc Horowitz (husband to previous guest Petra Cortright, a kind of full circle) to talk about his career and his life. Marc grew up "poor as fuck" in Middle America before moving to California to get a degree in business. One thing leading to the next, Marc eventually transitioned to being an artist after taking a painting class during his senior year. The first half of his career saw Marc staging elaborate conceptual projects that forced the art world to confront its own financial and cultural contradictions. But at some point...
2021-07-291h 36
System of SystemsAn "UnWoke Racist Fantasia" (w/ Glen Rockney)Friend of the show and co-host of the Rare Candy podcast Glen Rockney joins the boys to discuss the career of who we think is the best American filmmaker to emerge in the 2010s, S. Craig Zahler. Discussing all three of his films — Bone Tomahawk, Brawl in Cell Block 99, and Dragged Across Concrete — the trio pinpoints the artistically interesting formal qualities that have separated Zahler from his contemporaries as one of the emerging film artists to celebrate: extreme length, genre subversion, hyperviolence, dialog, and more. They also try and parse Zahler's unique ideological viewpoint that seems to cross a Marx...
2021-07-211h 48
System of SystemsMartin, Into the Corner (featuring Gio Pennacchietti)The boys are joined by friend, artist, writer and co-host of the Break the Rules Podcast Gio Pennacchietti to discuss PAINTING. Painting, so much and so little to say. Its history, its dreary present. The tendency towards what Dean Kissick calls "zombie figuration" and what separates the brilliance of Matthew Barney from the average new media artist. But mostly, we discuss four artists to emerge out of postmodernism or later that we believe are upholding some nobler archetype of the painter historically: Anselm Kiefer, Justin Mortimer, Martin Kippenberger, and Michael Krebber. Soundtrack: Skullflower "Shi...
2021-07-051h 46
System of SystemsFoucault Forgotten (W/ Geoff Shullenberger)Our old pal Geoff Shullenberger, writer and critic extraordinaire, is back on System of Systems to discuss his new piece for American Greatness – 'How We Forgot Foucault.' In it, Geoff describes the irony in Foucault's recent dip in citations and his abandonment as a "hero of the modern left," given that during the pandemic so much of Foucault's theories on biopolitics and biopower have proven to be utterly true. We discuss the aspects of Foucault's ideas that have emerged as inconvenient to a left and liberal establishment all too eager to abandon freedom and civil rights in the na...
2021-06-301h 36
System of SystemsThe Death Mask of Art (W/ DC Miller)A long sought-after guest joins System of Systems to discuss a number of artistic, philosophical, and political topics. Adam and the writer, critic and philosopher DC Miller became internet-linked after Adam demonstrated public interest in DC's writing. The result was that Adam was fired from The Quietus, where he wrote a regular column on the noise music underground and critical theory, and lost a number of other writing contracts. How did DC become such a controversial figure? Well, it mostly stems from the extreme Antifa-led overreaction to the now defunct British gallery LD50 and its 2017 exhibition that examined the...
2021-06-151h 58System of SystemsCryptoFASHionable (w/ Walter Pearce)Walter Pearce revolutionized casting in the New York fashion industry as the casting director for the early Hood by Air shows before co-founding the Midland Agency. Recently, however, Walter has gotten hella BASED! Off opiates, he felt serious discontent with the liberalism of the fashion industry. He has now been posting memes, throwing bombs, quoting Adam and Benedict Cryptofash, and brings a refreshing perspective to the System of Systems oeuvre. Also, we should mention that this is the beginning of System of Systems 2.0. From here on out, we will start evolving our aesthetic visually, as well as...
2021-06-101h 41System of SystemsThe Impulse to Go Kamikaze (w/ Angie Speaks)After a host of media hacks are deployed to fear monger the specter of the post-left, Angie Speaks of the Low Society podcast joins the boys to discuss the histrionics of the pseudo-dissidents, lies, smears, cruelty, the kayfabe, and internet censorious fervor. The temporal loop continues spinning. There is also discussion on religion, spirituality, the occult, christianity, paganism, and David Lynch. We also talk about the divinely kooky Nikole-Hannah Jones' denial of tenure, and the media libs' reaction to it. Links: Low Society: https://soundcloud.com/low-society Angie on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com...
2021-05-251h 23System of SystemsTumblr Revelations (w/ Jana Surkova and Zach Langley ChiChi)Two of our favorite of gal pals, the beautiful Jana Surkova (of the Hate Fiction podcast) and the lovely Zach Langley Chi Chi (of the I'm so Popular podcast) join System of Systems to discuss the flattening of sexuality in cinema and, by extension, the collapse of eroticism in our society. The crew discusses Tumblr aesthetics (Adam comes out of the closet as a once Tumblr user), and their favorite sex scenes in cinema. Films discussed include: Blue is the Warmest Color, Showgirls, Crash, Crimes of Passion, and our namesake Network, and much more. LINKS: ...
2021-05-112h 03