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In-Between ChargesForging Winners in a Market Slowdown with Rami Syväri from beY0ndIn this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike sit down with Rami Syväri, advisor and founder at beY0nd, to unpack the evolving dynamics of performance, strategy, and resilience in the EV charging industry. With a rich background spanning Fortum, Swisscharge, and now advising CPOs across Europe, Rami brings a front-row perspective to what “good” really looks like in a CPO’s operation, and where the industry still has work to do.Together, they dive deep into the importance of transparency, the power of benchmarking, and how operators can mea...2025-06-0441 min
In-Between ChargesFixing EV Charging in America: Building Better Networks with Chris Kaiser from PlugInIn this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike welcome Chris Kaiser, founder of PlugIn and longtime clean energy advocate. Chris shares his journey from energy-efficient lighting to launching his own EV charging network, which is built on reliability, a great driver experience, and, now, the Monta platform. His story offers a candid look at what it takes to build a charging business in the U.S. from the ground up.They dive into why many early charging efforts failed, the dominance of Tesla and ChargePoint, and why Chris believes ownership...2025-05-0749 min
In-Between ChargesSmart Solutions for Fleet Electrification and Cost Efficiency with Heiko Bayer from The Mobility HouseIn this episode of In-Between Charges, hosts Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes talk with Heiko Bayer, Managing Director at The Mobility House. Heiko shares how the company is helping fleets transition to electric a smarter approach to fleet management, and energy market integrations. He explains how The Mobility House reduces their client’s costs, increases their reliability, and simplifies the electrification for businesses across Europe, North America and Asia.The conversation explores trends shaping the EV industry, one continent versus the next. In Europe, corporate and logistics fleets are electrifying fast, wh...2025-04-0240 min
In-Between ChargesEV Charging’s Big Bet: Automakers, Policy Uncertainty, and the Push for Profitability with Ryan Fisher from BloombergNEF (he’s back!)In this episode of In-Between Charges, we welcome back Ryan Fisher, Head of Charging Infrastructure at BloombergNEF, for an insightful discussion on the evolving EV charging landscape. With automakers increasingly stepping into the charging business, we explore how their strategies are shifting—balancing investment in infrastructure with the need for profitability. Ryan shares his take on why major players like IONNA and Ionity are forming joint ventures, how automakers are leveraging charging networks to enhance brand loyalty, and whether the business model can ever be as lucrative as selling vehicles.Beyond in...2025-03-0542 min
In-Between ChargesThe role of community in driving clean energy forward, with Gavin Morse from EggIn this episode, we chat with Gavin Morse, CMO of Egg, about how community-driven initiatives are making clean energy more accessible, reducing strain on the grid, and creating new opportunities for consumers.Here’s what we cover:How the UK became Europe’s top EV market and what’s next.The impact of local initiativesMaking clean energy affordable: practical solutions for EV charging, solar, and home batteries.How Egg Energy measures the impact of its community initiatives, balancing business outcomes with contributions to the broade...2025-02-0534 min
In-Between ChargesAdapting to change: How the EV charging industry is preparing for 2025In this episode, Mike and Kevin sit down with Rikard Boije af Gennäs, head of Implement Consulting’s e-mobility division, to reflect on the challenges of 2024 and discuss what’s on the horizon for the EV and charging sector in 2025.Here’s what we cover:Lessons from 2024: Why EV demand didn’t meet expectations and what it means for the industry.Charging operators’ challenges: How operators are adapting to a tougher market and what strategies might work in 2025.Global shifts: How international politics and trade dynamics could impac...2025-01-0846 min
In-Between ChargesThe current state of EV: Challenges, opportunities, and global shiftsElectric vehicles (EVs) are no longer just a glimpse of the future—they’re here, and transforming how we think about transportation. But the transition to electrification isn’t without its hurdles. From global policy challenges to supply chain bottlenecks and lingering misconceptions, the EV landscape is as complex as it is promising. In this episode, Kevin and Mike discuss the dynamic shifts happening across Europe, the U.S., and Asia, including how tariffs, raw material prices, and manufacturing efficiency impact competition. Here’s what we talk about:China’s EV Dominance: H...2024-12-1131 min
In-Between ChargesFrom Ride-Hailing to EV Charging Provider - Stella Energy’s Unique JourneyElectric vehicles are reshaping the way we think about transportation, and at the heart of this shift is the challenge of charging. In this episode, Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes sit down with Mads Vind, Managing Director of Stella Energy (formerly known as Viggo Energy) to discuss how the company is driving innovation in EV charging and building a future-ready infrastructure for professional drivers and beyond. In this episode, we explore:Stella’s Evolution: How Stella went from being a ride-hailing app to becoming a leader in EV charging, focusing on the...2024-11-2048 min
In-Between ChargesBuilding a Sustainable Charging Network: Insights from Pär Möller of MerWelcome back to In-Between Charges, we are back for season 3! In this strong return, our hosts Mike and Kevin are joined by Pär Möller, the Global Head of Business and Partnership Development at Mer, a leading international operator in the EV charging industry. Together, they delve into Mer's journey of building a sustainable charging network across Europe, touching on the company's strategic partnerships with major brands like IKEA and McDonald's and the recent success in winning large-scale tenders like Deutschlandnetz. In this episode, Pär shares valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities in expa...2024-10-0241 min
In-Between ChargesIn-Between Charges: Season 3 trailer2024-09-2301 min
In-Between ChargesSmart Charging Explained: Jaap Burger on the Future of EV InfrastructureHosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg are joined by Jaap Burger, Senior Advisor on EV Grid Integration. Jaap brings his extensive experience and knowledge to discuss the nuances of smart charging for electric vehicles and the policies that maximize its potential for a decarbonized power market and grid.Jump into the current state of smart charging in Europe, and explore with us how different regions are adopting this technology and the benefits it brings to consumers and the energy grid. Jaap explains the challenges and opportunities in integrating renewable energy sources, o...2024-08-1441 minIn-Between ChargesSummertime and the chargin's (not so) easy, with Felix HamerSummer has arrived and it’s time for that annual road trip. Hopping in your EV and wondering how to navigate EV charging across borders? Or why the price of a kWh can vary so widely? This episode of “In-Between Charges” has the answers to all your questions. Hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg speak with famed “EV Travel Hacker” Electric Felix. Felix spends all his time driving and charging throughout Europe. They discuss the public charging scene in Europe, how certain countries have surprised him, and how charging operators are switching their focus from #MorePlugs to #MoreUsers.As the...2024-07-1739 minIn-Between ChargesHeavy duty, high voltage: Ins and outs of a heavy duty CPO with Roel Visser from MilenceIn this episode of "In Between Charges," hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg sit down with Roel Visser, the Chief Commercial Officer at Milence, delving into the transformative world of electric heavy-duty vehicles. They delve into Roel's insights on the rapid growth of electric truck sales in Europe, the challenges of establishing a reliable charging infrastructure, and Mylans' strategic role in this transformative industry.The conversation takes a deep dive into what a heavy duty CPO strategy looks like, the grid-grab vs. land-grab approach, the necessary and key collaboration among parties...2024-06-1244 minIn-Between ChargesBeyond Batteries: Hybrid Energy Systems and the Grid with Andreas Barnekov Thingvad from Hybrid GreentechIn this episode of "In Between Charges," hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg chat with Dr. Andreas Barnekov Thingvad from Hybrid Greentech. Andreas brings his expertise in hybrid energy systems to the table, discussing how these technologies are revolutionizing our approach to energy storage and making renewable sources more effective. He simplifies complex concepts, making it easy to understand how integrating new and traditional energy solutions can lead to a more sustainable future.Our guest also addresses common myths around battery technology and hybrid systems, explaining their real-world applications and benefits. The conversation sheds light on how...2024-05-1538 minIn-Between ChargesTurning a corner: profitability & next gen charging with Ryan Fisher from BloombergNEFJoining Kevin and Mike for this episode of "In Between Charges" is Ryan Fisher, an electrified transport analyst for Bloomberg NEF. From his early days working on projects like the I-PACE and Second Life Batteries to analyzing the rapid evolution of charging technologies and corporate strategies, Ryan illuminates the intricate web of developments shaping the future of electric mobility.The episode dives into the vibrant investment landscape of the EV charging infrastructure, insights into private and public market trends, the complexities of funding and consolidation, the strategic shifts of companies and...2024-04-1744 minIn-Between ChargesThe real greenhouse of the future: Decarbonising homes with Dr. Andreas Piepenbrink, from HagerEnergyIn this episode of "In Between Charges," Mike and Kevin engage in a deep conversation with Dr. Andreas Piepenbrink from E3/DC and the Hager Group, who shares his transition from the automotive industry to leading the charge in home energy management. The discussion illuminates the progress and potential of renewable energy, the role of electric vehicles in energy systems, and the dream of a carbon-neutral home. This episode is packed with insights into the evolving landscape of sustainable energy, highlighting innovations and the impact of technology like bi-directional charging in o...2024-03-1336 minIn-Between ChargesThe future of EV charging, are we there yet? with your hosts, Mike and KevinThis episode of In Between Charges takes listeners on a unique journey through the streets of Copenhagen, exploring the world of electric vehicle (EV) charging. Hosts Kevin and Mike embark on a lively adventure, testing out various charging stations and discussing the evolving landscape of EV charging infrastructure. They delve into topics like the practicalities and challenges of EV charging in different settings, the integration of renewable energy, and the future of transportation electrification. This episode offers a mix of informative discussions, real-world experiences, and light-hearted banter, providing valuable insights for both EV enthusiasts and the general public...2024-02-1425 minIn-Between ChargesTrackside Tech: The McLaren Formula E Engineering StoryGear up for an electrifying journey into the world of Formula E racing with this episode of 'In-Between Charges.' Hosted by Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg, this episode features an insightful discussion with Chris Dyer and Albert Lau, two of McLaren’s distinguished Formula E engineers. Dive deep into the nuances of efficiency in electric racing, as our guests reveal the secrets behind McLaren's success on the track. From the intricacies of battery management to the strategic deployment of resources, Chris and Albert shed light on how McLaren pushes the bou...2024-01-1027 minIn-Between ChargesClimate tech: reflecting on 2023 and what’s coming next, with Mark Tomasovic from Energize CapitalJoin hosts Kevin and Mike in our special year-end episode of In Between Charges. Together, we will dive into the electrifying world of climate tech with Mark Tomasovic, principal for Energize Capital. In this illuminating conversation, we explore the major climate tech trends of the past year, the evolution of EVs in the US, and a forward-looking discussion on what 2024 holds. Mark shares insights on Energize Capital's investment strategy, focusing on the electrification of everything. We touch on the impact of the Inflation Reduction Act in the US, how it influences t...2023-12-1337 minIn-Between ChargesNo silver bullet for battery tech, with Luca Scherrer and Lukas Lutz from Sphere EnergyListen in on this Autumnal Wednesday as Mike and Kevin meet with Luca Scherrer and Lukas Lutz, co-founders of Sphere Energy, to explore the battery mega trend and its sweeping impact on multiple industries. Together, they unravel the fascinating world of batteries, from production and development acceleration to understanding their significance in the EV industry. Luca and Lukas explain how the battery industry has morphed over the past decade, including power balances, the intricacies of sourcing raw materials and the unique challenges it poses for OEMs. We also touch on the im...2023-11-1540 min
In-Between ChargesElectrifying the Track: McLaren’s Formula E Journey, with Ian James from NEOM McLarenWelcome to season 2 of In Between Charges! We are still the best podcast to listen to while waiting for your EV to charge. For the season premiere, hosts Mike and Kevin raced to get the best guest and make this new season take off like no other! Puns aside, we’re debuting this new season with a star guest: NEOM McLaren’s Formula E and Extreme E racing Managing Director, Ian James. Calling in from the UK, Ian runs us through the ins and outs of the first-ever fully electric World Champ...2023-10-1828 min
In-Between ChargesIn Between Charges: Season 2 trailer2023-10-1300 minIn-Between ChargesOur Grid: the next digital frontier, with Michael Kent from GridBeyondOn the last episode of season 1, Mike and Kevin uncover a hidden gem from the largest machine that man ever made: grid service schemes. You might be asking, what on earth are these schemes? In short, they make the grid more sustainable by providing flexibility in the amount of assets that can help support it, opening up new opportunities for businesses to make a profit. In long, listen to the episode ;)With the help of Michael Kent from flexibility service provider GridBeyond, we explore a...2023-09-1335 minIn-Between ChargesCharging up that hill: Strange things are happening in the EU with Lucie Mattera from ChargeUp EuropeThis episode has another knowledgeable and influential guest joining the conversation! We sat down with Lucie Mattera. Lucie is the Secretary General of ChargeUp Europe, a trade association that represents the interests of the EV charging industry in front of the European Commission, and is responsible for publishing the yearly State of the Industry report.Between the State of the Industry report and the long-time coming Alternative Fuels Infrastructure Regulations (AFIR), there’s a lot to unpack when it comes to EV charging regulations in Europe, standards and frameworks that different co...2023-07-1941 minIn-Between ChargesWhat the charge is happening?! A Q&A deep diveThere is no special guest on the show this month, but don’t despair! More EV industry info and news are coming your way. Our hosts Mike and Kevin crowdsourced some listener questions and they are here to give you the answers. Is range anxiety real? Aren’t EV batteries really resource heavy?? Why is there such a disparity in EV adoption between the U.S. and Europe?!! We’ve got you covered.Get to know the hosts better and learn about the industry mysteri...2023-06-1435 minIn-Between ChargesElon Musk, China and EVs with Benny Engelbrecht (Former Danish Minister of Transport)Denmark, like the rest of Scandinavia, is a nation at the forefront of the transition to electrification and e-mobility in Europe and the world. From public transport fleets to taxation plans for CO2, for years, Denmark has been implementing an extensive list of policies that promote an electric and sustainable lifestyle from the top down. Different departments and leaders in Denmark have taken decisions to put the country in the place it is right now. One of these leaders in the race to net zero is our guest of the day...2023-04-1231 minIn-Between ChargesEVs and the new business opportunities: everyone wants a piece of the pie, with Henrik Langeland from EnodeThe role of electric vehicles in a cleaner future is undeniable. Their widespread adoption will lead to cleaner transportation methods and improvements in our air quality, especially in densely populated areas, where dependency on fossil fuels in transportation makes up a significant proportion of all CO emissions.EVs open up a whole world of opportunities for how we consume, produce and interact with the energy market. The reason for those opportunities is the technology that EVs come equipped with. These new electrified platforms let designers and engineers re-think the design of...2023-03-1529 minIn-Between ChargesAFIR not, EV charging help is here with Aaron Fishbone [SPECIAL EPISODE]The need to quickly roll out EV charging infrastructure is a central topic across the EV industry - some say there’s not enough, some say it needs to be more standardised, and some spend their days discussing how exactly to make EV charging a premium business and provide a great user experience.Important discussions are taking place at the highest level of multinational organisations and governments, and soon we’ll witness the final outcome around the alternative fuels infrastructure regulations, also known as AFIR. This regulation will mandate country by country commitments to inst...2023-03-0138 minIn-Between ChargesWho said the UK cannot reach net zero? with Joshua Partridge and George Mason from Bird & BirdIn today’s episode we dove into the impact of global net zero emission targets on two of the largest, and arguably most significant, industries in the race to net-zero: the automotive and energy industries.We are focusing on the UK and discussing the contrasts to Europe to understand how both regions are faring, and what strategies they’re employing to protect, transform and innovate in the face of challenging but necessary sustainability goals.To do so we’re joined by industry experts from Bird...2023-02-2233 minIn-Between ChargesEV roaming: the digital scale required with Christian HahnThe new year is here and with it, Mike and Kevin are excited to chat about one of e-mobility’s most misunderstood elements, roaming.While the word “roaming” may bring to mind an exorbitant cell phone bill from that holiday abroad, in the EV industry, roaming means something different. It drives the electric mobility revolution forward by making charge points from different networks available to all EV drivers - no matter what app they use. Or at least, that’s the ultimate goal. But there remains a lot of work to be done...2023-01-1742 minIn-Between ChargesNorway's EV love story with Jan Tore GjøbyMike and Kevin take a trip up north to uncover the secrets of the EV capital of the world: Norway. Norway is head and shoulders above every other country when it comes to EV adoption, with over 90% of new vehicle sales being EVs.From removing those notoriously high Scandinavian vehicle taxes to purchase incentives, along with charge plug standardization and the promotion of charging infrastructure in even the most remote areas in the country …Norway is doing - and has been doing - a little bit of everything to promote EV ado...2022-12-1332 minIn-Between ChargesGrid Expansion with Christoffer Greisen from Hybrid GreentechIn this episode, Mike and Kevin will unpack how the grid - an infrastructure that took almost 150 years to build - has to be transformed and in many cases even rebuilt from the ground up to accommodate for the electrical revolution of large-scale industries including transportation.The kicker? This transformation needs to happen NOW. Is this even possible?We brought in Christoffer Greaisen from Hybrid Greentech to answer this question and more! He’ll help us understand the advent of new software, new storage technologies, next-gen tech, and all the nu...2022-11-1426 min