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Kelly & Kelly LawFighting Probation Violations in Michigan: What You Need to KnowIn this episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast, Kevin from Borealis Digital Marketing is joined by criminal defense attorney Mike Kelly to discuss one of the most misunderstood and high-risk issues in Michigan criminal law: probation violations.
Mike explains what actually counts as a probation violation, the difference between technical and substantive violations, and what happens after a violation is alleged. We also cover the potential penalties including jail time, probation reinstatement, and alternative outcomes, along with how an experienced defense attorney can often reduce or avoid serious consequences.
If you’re on probation or...
2025-12-1912 minKelly & Kelly LawExpungement in Michigan: Understanding the “Clean Slate” LawsIn this episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast, Kevin from Borealis Digital Marketing is joined once again by criminal defense attorney Mike Kelly to explore one of the most important updates in Michigan criminal law: the Clean Slate expungement laws.
We break down what these laws mean for people with old criminal records including who qualifies for expungement, how automatic expungement differs from the application process, and why legal help is still crucial for navigating the process. Mike also explains the “One Bad Night” rule and which offenses remain ineligible under Michigan law.
If you...
2025-11-2010 minKelly & Kelly LawDrugged Driving in Michigan - What Drivers Should KnowDrugged driving is not the same as drunk driving and Michigan law treats it differently. In this episode, attorney Mike Kelly joins us to explain how drug-related OWI cases work, including the legal consequences, the role of blood tests, and how marijuana use can still land you in court even if it’s legal.
While most drivers are familiar with DUI laws related to alcohol, operating under the influence of drugs whether recreational, prescription, or over-the-counter comes with a different set of challenges and consequences. We cover the key legal differences between drunk and drugged driving, how ma...
2025-10-3110 min
Pittman and Friends PodcastMike Kelly on Baltimore Metropolitan CouncilWhat if the most impactful work shaping your daily life never makes the news? We sit down with Mike Kelly, executive director of the Baltimore Metropolitan Council (BMC), to reveal how a small regional team coordinates transportation, housing, workforce, and climate resilience across Central Maryland—and why that matters for every commute, job search, and neighborhood.Mike breaks down the inner workings of the federally designated Metropolitan Planning Organization and how it helps local governments program their share of federal transportation dollars. We trace the ripple effects from bike infrastructure to bus service, highways, and freight, then zo...
2025-10-2824 min
Venture DeclassifiedFrom “Hot Mess” to Fundable: Cleaning Up Cap TablesIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok tackle one of the most overlooked—but most consequential—parts of startup investing: the cap table. From abandoned founder equity to a stack of mismatched SAFEs, the trio share war stories of cap tables that turn into what they like to call a “hot mess”—and why those messes can scare off the very investors a company needs most. Along the way, they unpack the mechanics behind dilution math, option pools, and convertible notes, and shine a light on the hidden gotchas that quietly eat...
2025-10-061h 03Kelly & Kelly LawRetail Fraud in Michigan: More Than Just a MistakeIn this episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast Kevin is joined by criminal defense attorney Mike Kelly to discuss a charge that often gets underestimated: retail fraud, also known as shoplifting.
Whether it’s switching a price tag or walking out of a store without paying, what might seem like a minor lapse in judgment can actually lead to serious long-term consequences including a criminal record, fines, and even jail time.
We break down the degrees of retail fraud in Michigan, the difference between misdemeanor and felony charges, and why even first-time offenders should ta...
2025-09-2910 minVenture DeclassifiedThe Good, the Bad, and the Risky: Understanding Bridge RoundsIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok take a hard look at bridge rounds—what they are, when they make sense, and when they’re really just a disguised recap. The conversation starts with definitions: a bridge round is typically a smaller, short-term raise—often structured as a convertible note or SAFE—intended to extend a company’s runway until the next major milestone. But as the hosts point out, bridges can fall into three very different categories: a pivot where the company needs fresh conviction, a quick infusion of capital to h...
2025-09-2221 minVenture DeclassifiedNavigating Follow-On Rounds Through Special Purpose VehiclesIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Jacob Schpok, Ben Pidgeon, and Mike Kelly unpack the inner workings of Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs) and their role in managing follow-on investments. Drawing from recent real-world scenarios, the trio explores how SPVs are structured, how pro rata rights work in practice, and what happens when not all investors are on board for additional funding rounds. Ben shares a current “pay-to-play” situation, explaining how failing to participate in a follow-on can push investors down the preference stack—or even convert them to common shares—dramatically impacting potential returns. The conversation dives deep...
2025-09-0828 minKelly & Kelly LawDriver’s License Restoration in Michigan: How to Get Back on the RoadIn this episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast, host Kevin is joined by criminal defense attorney Mike Kelly to talk about one of the most common questions after a DUI or repeat driving offense: How do I get my license back?
We walk through Michigan’s driver’s license restoration process, including common mistakes, required documentation, the role of substance abuse evaluations, and what the hearing officer is really looking for. Whether you’ve had your license revoked due to multiple OWI convictions or are applying for a restricted license, this episode breaks it all down.
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2025-08-2711 minVenture DeclassifiedExercising Angel Investor Wisdom Without Overstepping BoundariesEpisode SummaryIn this episode of “Venture Declassified,” hosts Mike Kelly, Jacob Schpok, and Ben Pidgeon are joined by super angel investor Ken Miller for a candid conversation on the art and reality of exercising influence as an angel investor. The discussion kicks off with the dilemma many angels encounter: what to do when you see a portfolio company making decisions you disagree with—especially when you’re a minority on the cap table and not on the board. The group explores the most effective (and least destructive) ways to voice concerns, —asking sincere, prob...
2025-06-2338 minKelly & Kelly LawDUI in Michigan: What to Do After You're Pulled OverIn this episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast, host Kevin sits down with criminal defense attorney Mike Kelly to discuss what happens after you’re pulled over for suspected drunk driving in Michigan.
From roadside stops to chemical testing and court proceedings, this episode walks through every step of the DUI process including what to do (and what not to say), how your license may be affected, and why hiring a lawyer quickly can change the outcome. Whether this is your first offense or you’ve been through it before, this episode offers clear legal guidance to h...
2025-06-1815 minVenture DeclassifiedNavigating Tariffs and Survival Strategies for Uncertainty in 2025In this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Spock, Mike Kelly, and Ben Pidgeon are joined by guest Ken Miller to tackle the timely and complex topic of tariffs, and their ripple effects on startups, investors, and the broader business ecosystem. The crew dives straight into the current landscape, highlighting the divide between companies with international exposure—who are feeling the pinch—and those insulated from global trade dynamics. The conversation kicks off with a candid exploration of how tariffs are impacting founder confidence and client spending, especially for startups selling into large, global enterprises. Ken and Mi...
2025-06-0921 minKelly & Kelly LawJuvenile Defense: When a Minor Gets in Trouble with the LawIn the first episode of the Kelly & Kelly Law Podcast, host Kevin speaks with attorney Mike Kelly, head of the firm’s criminal defense department, about what happens when a minor is charged with a crime in Michigan.
They discuss common juvenile offenses, what parents can expect from the legal process, and what rights minors have when facing the juvenile justice system. Whether it’s a school fight, shoplifting charge, or online misconduct, this episode is packed with practical advice for parents navigating one of the most difficult moments in their child’s life.
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2025-05-1512 min
ABA on TapFeeding, Eating and Meal Time Behavior with Dena Kelly Part IISend us a textABA on Tap is proud to present an interview with Dena Kelly. (Part II)Dena Kelly, LPC, BCBA, LBS is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Board Certified Behavior Analyst with over 15 years of experience improving children’s eating behavior and quality of life through evidence-based interventions. Founder of Focused Approach, Dena develops ABA-based feeding programs and trains professionals and caregivers nationwide. She has presented at major conferences such as ABAI and FABA and continues to advance the field through education and advocacy. Dena has led feeding programs in both clinical and mu...
2025-05-1152 minABA on TapFeeding, Eating and Meal Time Behavior with Dena Kelly Part ISend us a textABA on Tap is proud to present an interview with Dena Kelly. (Part I)Dena Kelly, LPC, BCBA, LBS is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Board Certified Behavior Analyst with over 15 years of experience improving children’s eating behavior and quality of life through evidence-based interventions. Founder of Focused Approach, Dena develops ABA-based feeding programs and trains professionals and caregivers nationwide. She has presented at major conferences such as ABAI and FABA and continues to advance the field through education and advocacy. Dena has led feeding programs in both clinical and mu...
2025-05-0450 minVenture DeclassifiedWhat Makes a Deal Stand Out: Insights from the Venture Screening ProcessIn this lively episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock dive deep into their screening processes, offering a backstage pass to how venture capital decisions are made. The episode is a fascinating exploration of how these experts engage with potential portfolio companies, balance efficiency with thoroughness, and deal with the challenges of high-volume deal flow.Jacob, Mike, and Ben begin by sharing their recent experiences at South by Southwest and quickly transition to discussing their week-long schedules. This sets the stage for a detailed conversation about screening potential investments, differentiating between immediate...
2025-04-2837 minVenture DeclassifiedThe Role of Secondary Markets in Today's Venture Capital StrategyIn this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Schpok delve into the intriguing world of secondary markets. They explore how these markets offer a mechanism for current shareholders in privately-held companies to sell their shares to private entities. With a candid approach, the hosts detail how these transactions do not inject new cash into companies but rather enable liquidity for shareholders looking to exit their positions. The conversation is kicked off by Ben explaining the nuances of secondary markets, likening them to purchasing stocks in the public market but with private entities. M...
2025-04-1432 minVenture DeclassifiedIndiana’s Tech Transformation: Adapting to a Changing LandscapeIn this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Schpok join guest Toph Day to explore the rapid shifts within Indiana's burgeoning tech ecosystem. The discussion centers on the theme of "Innovate or Evaporate," emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt to swiftly evolving technological landscapes, particularly with AI advancements. Toph illustrates this urgency with the example of Chegg, a company that saw its valuation collapse due to AI tools like ChatGPT. The conversation underscores the necessity for startups to harness modern tools like low code and no code platforms for competitive a...
2025-03-101h 00Venture DeclassifiedChoosing the Right Investment StructureEpisode SummaryIn this engaging episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok unpack the various types of investment vehicles and the appropriate contexts for their use. The episode is loaded with expert insights into the nuances of safes, convertible notes, and equity financing, making it a must-listen for both budding entrepreneurs and seasoned investors. Jacob outlines the main reasons why pre-seed and seed stages often employ safes and convertible notes, citing the difficulty in pricing companies at these early stages. Mike dives deeper into the topic, discussing the s...
2025-02-2052 minVenture DeclassifiedEnsuring Your Return: Waterfall Analysis and Exit Strategies for Startup InvestorsEpisode SummaryIn this enlightening episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Spock tackle the subject of waterfall analysis, offering listeners a clear understanding of its role in the investment process. The topic comes to life through a real-life scenario where their portfolio company faced an acquisition offer, leading to choices between cash, equity, or a mix of both.Ben starts by defining waterfall analysis, explaining the allocation of returns and the considerations for investors, like liabilities, deferred wages, and fees. Mike emphasizes the importance for angel investors to...
2025-02-1049 minVenture DeclassifiedExploring MVP Creation with AI: Tools, Costs, and TimeIn this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Schpock and Mike Kelly dive into an engaging discussion centered on using AI tools to create a Minimum Viable Product (MVP). They explore the necessary skills, costs, and time commitment involved in product development with a focus on leveraging low code/no code platforms and developer productivity tools. Mike emphasizes how tools like Figma can generate front-end experiences quickly, allowing for iterative design, which is particularly beneficial for early-stage companies. Jacob and Mike analyze a hypothetical business idea related to improper financial categorization, discussing its scalability with AI-enhanced tools. Th...
2025-01-2939 min
Speak EasyMike Kelly, CEO of TeamOnUP & Author of Meaning is the MissionTyler Sellhorn interviews Mike Kelly, author of "Meaning is the Mission." They discuss the challenges of modern work, the importance of mindset and "heartset," and the role of Al in productivity. Kelly emphasizes the value of human creativity and deep thinking, advocating for a balance between technology and traditional tools like pen and paper. Mike shares his personal system for capturing and developing ideas, highlighting the importance of focus and intentionality in a world of distractions.
2025-01-0336 minVenture DeclassifiedEarly-Stage CEO Salaries: Best Practices and Common PitfallsIn this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock tackle the often contentious topic of CEO compensation in startups. With an engaging and dynamic discussion, the trio delves into the intricate balance of aligning executive pay with company milestones and investor expectations.Key Topics• Budget implications of CEO compensation with regard to business longevity and milestones.• Risk of misalignment with post-money valuation.• Signs of bad salary practices.• The harmful impact of exorbitant CEO salaries on a company’s future and investor alignment.• ...
2024-12-0923 minVenture DeclassifiedEvaluating Market Conditions: Impacts of Political Climate and Economic EventsIn this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok dive into various investment strategies and market dynamics affecting angel investors. Key Topics• Investment Strategies: Sticking to goals, but being flexible• Benefits of Knowing CEOs or Board Members: Looking beyond just using deal platforms like AngelList.• Emotional Engagement in Investments• Importance of a Broad Investment Scope: Relying on a strong process and discerning team• Balance Between Liquidity and Timing: Angel investors' mental preparation for potential losses.• Considering Political Climate: National political climate and...
2024-11-2528 minVenture DeclassifiedEffective Cash Flow Management and Financial Literacy Tips for StartupsEpisode SummaryIn this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly and Jacob Spock, along with special guest Nick Wangler, co-founer and COO of Orthodontic Details, delve into the intricate dynamics of venture capital and startup fundraising. The episode offers invaluable advice for founders navigating the challenging VC landscape, focusing on practical strategies to enhance their pitch and financial planning.Key TopicsChallenges founders face with discounted estimatesVarious financial reports: pro forma vs. financial forecast.Importance of accurate pipeline coverage and cost management.Red flags in founder behavior: overpromising and...
2024-11-111h 01Venture DeclassifiedHow to Make Smart Venture Capital DecisionsIn this thought-provoking episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly and Jacob Schpok, alongside guest Ben Pidgeon, delve into the complexities of investment decision-making in the venture capital world. This episode shines a light on the critical factors that influence whether to continue funding a company or finally "wave the white flag.The discussion starts with the importance of not relying solely on pipeline slides, which Mike Kelly criticizes as potentially fictional. He emphasizes past performance as a key indicator of future success and stresses the need for recent achievements rather than mere future promises. B...
2024-10-2137 minVenture DeclassifiedThe Art of the Pitch: Live Startup Pitches and Fundraising Realities from Rally InnovationIn this special episode of "Venture Declassified," recorded live at the Rally Innovation Conference, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock engage with a series of live pitches and conversations with entrepreneurs and founders. They unpack the complex dynamics of the fundraising landscape for startups, exploring how the backgrounds of entrepreneurs—whether they are repeat founders or first-timers—significantly influence their approach and success in securing investments.Mike and Ben discuss their roles as sherpas for first-time founders, guiding them through the serpentine process of fundraising. Repeat founders, having been through the process before, often present with...
2024-10-1444 minVenture DeclassifiedThe Midwest Advantage: Navigating Fundraising and Dilution at Series A for StartupsIn this enlightening episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Schpok, Ben Pidgeon, and Mike Kelly take a deep dive into the intricacies of Series A valuations, fundraising strategies, and the unique challenges faced by Midwest startups. The episode sheds light on the complex dynamics that come into play when a company with $3 million in annual recurring revenue aims for a Series A round, touching on standard valuation multiples, dilution impacts, and capital efficiency.The discussion begins with a look at the typical Series A valuation process, where companies with substantial annual revenue might see a valuation around 6...
2024-09-1635 minVenture DeclassifiedInside Angel Groups: Balancing Deal Excitement and Investor InterestIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly and Ben Pidgeon explore the complexities of managing angel syndicate groups and the art of curating investment opportunities.Both Mike and Ben run angel syndicates, creating SPVs (Special Purpose Vehicles) for investments, and they highlight the challenge of recommending numerous deals each year without overwhelming their investors.Ben elaborates on his group's approach of working on multiple deals simultaneously, often over a two to three-month window. He stresses the importance of maintaining investor interest through a strategic marketing campaign—using compelling headlines and consistent updates. Mike, on...
2024-09-0412 minVenture DeclassifiedNailing Your First Impression: The Anatomy of a Winning Pitch Deck, Part 2Episode SummaryWelcome back to Venture Declassified. In this episode, we continue our conversation into the nuances of creating an influential pitch. Jacob and Ben share their insights on the significance of active listening to evaluate a team effectively. We then pivot to tackle the challenging topic of setting valuations and discuss vital metrics including revenue, customer acquisition costs, and churn rates. Expect to hear candid conversations about founders' narratives, why presentation skills can trump slide content, and our biggest pet peeves in investment pitches. Plus, we suggest how founders enhance their narrative, r...
2024-08-1951 minVenture DeclassifiedNailing Your First Impression: The Anatomy of a Winning Pitch Deck, Part 1Episode SummaryIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Jacob Schpok, and Ben Pidgeon come together to talk about the fundamentals of an influential pitch. This episode promises to strip away the misconceptions and focus on what truly matters during investor presentations.As the hosts delve into the narrative aspect of pitch decks, they emphasize clarity and accuracy in communicating the startup's vision and potential. The episode also explores the strategic presentation of competition, underscoring that a well-researched landscape can significantly bolster a pitch. Venture Declassified's episode is not j...
2024-08-0544 minVenture DeclassifiedLeveraging AI for Smarter Investment Decisions in StartupsIn this engaging episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok dive into the pivotal role of technology, specifically AI and chat GPT, in revolutionizing the world of investing and due diligence. The episode is packed with insights on how these cutting-edge tools can streamline and enhance the investment decision-making process.The hosts kick things off by discussing the importance of validating business ideas, assessing the competitiveness and innovativeness of solutions, and determining market size to attract investment. Ben shares his experience using chat GPT for due diligence and market research, suggesting it...
2024-07-2238 minVenture DeclassifiedCrafting Your Board Strategy: Hygiene, Governance, and Transparent CommunicationIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Ben Pidgeon, Jacob Schpok, and Mike Kelly dive deep into the intricate world of board hygiene and governance, shedding light on the critical aspects that can make or break early-stage companies. Jacob Schpok and Mike Kelly explore into the nuances of good board hygiene. They underscore the significance of managing personal biases and relationships in boardroom decision-making. The conversation also touches on the value of board observer rights and the strategic use of 1099 contractors as operating partners to enhance board insights without compromising control.Ben Pidgeon brings a g...
2024-07-0943 minVenture DeclassifiedPre-Seed Fundamentals: Decoding the Dynamics of Startup Financing and Valuation StrategiesIn this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Jacob Schpok, Mike Kelly, and Ben Pidgeon look into the world of early-stage startup funding, particularly focusing on pre-seed investments. They discuss a $3 million pre-seed fund that evaluates startups at the ideation through pre-seed stage, offering checks as small as $20K. The hosts highlight the importance of founders clearly articulating the use of funds and demonstrating a strategic approach to utilizing investment capital. Throughout the lively discussion, the hosts share insights on the mindset of early-stage startups, the significance of revenue growth, and the potential role of warrants in incentivizing p...
2024-06-2425 minVenture DeclassifiedDecoding Startup Finances: Investor Relations, Founder Debt, and Exit StrategiesIn this insightful episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Jacob Schpok, and Ben Pidgeon deive into a range of compelling topics surrounding investment scenarios and the intricate dynamics of startups. The hosts first navigate a complex situation involving dissolving a preferred stock arrangement within a company and the potential repercussions of allowing private sales of shares post-funding on a company's growth trajectory. They stress the importance of positive metrics like pitch quality, revenue, and retention rates in their investment decisions, highlighting the impact of overvaluation and the potential for renegotiation if founders feel the deal was t...
2024-06-1032 minVenture DeclassifiedDistillery Startup: Strategies, Funding, and Market EntryWelcome to another intriguing episode of Venture Declassified. Today, we delved into the captivating world of starting a distillery, as entrepreneur Mike Kelly shared his in-depth plans and strategies for establishing a distillery business in Indianapolis.The conversation unfolded as Mike discussed the intricacies of the go-to-market strategy, the role of a key partner, and the initial focus on commodity alcohol production. Alongside Jacob and Ben, the discussion explored the financial aspects, capital raising strategies, and the dynamics of engaging potential investors in a non-traditional venture like a distillery business.The dialogue revealed thought-provoking insights...
2024-06-0327 minVenture DeclassifiedCapital Raising and Valuation Realities for StartupsIn today's episode, we're diving into the complex world of startup fundraising as companies transition from pre-seed to seed stages. Our co-host experts, Jacob Schpok and Ben Pidgeon, join me in deciphering the intricacies of setting valuations, focusing on the nuances of revenue pro forma and the leap into Series A capital raising.Jacob Schpok kicks off the discussion with insights into aligning your company’s valuation with public SaaS multiples for a strong Series A entry, targeting a 6.5x on ARR. We explore the pressure that startups face in converting customers to solidify this valuation and hi...
2024-05-2045 min
The Kelly Patrick ShowKelly Patrick Show 750 Mike KellyMike Kelly is a retired US army vet (25 years) located in Kansas. He has strong opinions about the warfare state and has many libertarian principles. In today's episode Mike describes why he is voting for RFK Jr. and he feels its the best move for the...
2024-05-1600 min
The Real Hickory PodcastSmall Business Spotlight with Ron Weber of Mountain View Sound and VideoOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast Mike does another Small Business Spotlight with Ron Weber of Mountain View Sound and Video. Ron gives tips on how to plan out a home audio/video system, his favorite brands and how he keeps things simple for his customers. He also talks about how people in areas with limited internet coverage can take advantage of new technology. For more information about his company go to https://mvsoundandvideo.com/ The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Broker/Owner of Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Foothills in Hickory NC...
2024-05-1528 min
The Real Hickory PodcastBusiness Spotlight with Karen Tonks of Kilty Pleasure ToursCheck out the latest episode of The Real Hickory Podcast where Mike interviews Karen Tonks with Kilty Pleasure Tours. Karen’s business takes customers on amazing tours of local breweries and wineries. She offers other transportation options as well. Karen is a dynamic entrepreneur and a staple in the Catawba Valley business community. Karen has another business called Time Genies, a concierge and errand service business and she will discuss that as well. To learn more about Karen and her businesses go to www.KiltyPleasures.com or www.Time-Genies.com The Real Hickory Podcast is hoste...
2024-05-0925 min
Glasslab PodcastEpisode 19: Building Your Way To Building Great Products with Mike Kelly0:00-1:08 - Intro
1:09-3:03 - The Start of Developertown
3:04-23:30 - Taking Equity for Services
23:31-32:05 - Pros and Cons of the Studio Model
32:06-36:44 - Sharing Risk as a Solution to Common Studio Pitfalls
36:45-39:11 - Software Development vs. Hardware Development
39:12-40:27 - OutroSpecial Guest: Mike Kelly.
2024-03-2040 min
Venture DeclassifiedShow ZeroShow ZeroVenture Declassified is here to provide you with practical insights, expert advice, and a deeper understanding of the investment landscape for first-time investors.Hosted by a team of seasoned investors and financial experts, this podcast is tailor-made for newcomers who are eager to learn about the fundamentals of investing and want to make informed decisions. We understand that starting your investment journey can be intimidating, but our goal is to demystify the process and equip you with the knowledge and tools needed to succeed.Welcome...
2024-02-1912 min
The Real Hickory PodcastLindsay Keisler talks to Mike about the Chamber of Catawba CountyOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast with Mike Kelly we are joined by Lindsay Keisler CEO and President of the Chamber of Catawba County. Mike and Lindsay had a great discussion on how the Chamber helps local business and why our area is such a great place to live. We also talked about a new service that the chamber will be offering to help people learn how to get started when they start a business or project. For more information about The Chamber go to www.catawbachamber.org
2023-09-0837 min
The Real Hickory PodcastCommercial Real Estate Update with Ryan LovernCheck out the latest episode of The Real Hickory Podcast where Mike talks to Ryan Lovern of Commercial First Real Estate. Mike and Ryan discussed the hot and cold sectors of the local commercial real estate market and even a bit about how to start investing in commercial real estate. I learned a lot and hopefully you will too. For more information about Ryan and her business go to her website at CommercialFirst.net Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on...
2022-10-3139 min
UrbangelicalThe B-List, with David Scott | Ordinary Pastors, at Ordinary Churches, Doing Ordinary ThingsThis episode is the third in a series entitled "The B-List." The series consists of interviews with ordinary pastors, at ordinary churches, doing ordinary things. In this episode, Mike Kelly talks everyday life and ministry with David Scott, planting pastor of Trinitas Presbyterian Church in Bothell, WA.
2022-10-0435 minUrbangelicalThe B-List, with Brant Bosserman | Ordinary Pastors, at Ordinary Churches, Doing Ordinary ThingsThis episode is the second in a new series entitled "The B-List." The series consists of interviews with ordinary pastors, at ordinary churches, doing ordinary things. In this episode, Mike Kelly talks everyday life and ministry with Brant Bosserman, planting pastor of Trinitas Presbyterian Church in Bothell, WA.
2022-09-2941 min
The Real Hickory PodcastWhat's Happening in Hickory with Dave LeonettiOn this episode of the podcast Mike talked with David Leonetti The Business Services and Redevelopment Manager with the City of Hickory. Mike and Dave discuss the progress of the City Walk and River walk, residential development in the Hickory area and how to nominate a local business for the "Business. Well Crafted." award. Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: The Re...
2022-09-1329 min
UrbangelicalThe B-List, with Alex Early | Ordinary Pastors, at Ordinary Churches, Doing Ordinary ThingsThis episode is the first in a new series entitled "The B-List." The series consists of interviews with ordinary pastors, at ordinary churches, doing ordinary things. In this episode, Mike Kelly talks everyday life and ministry with Alex Early, Lead Pastor of Redemption Church in Seattle.
2022-08-1632 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike taks to Rob Howard about Pocket Neighborhood in Granite FallsOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast with Mike Kelly We talked to Rob Howard with Howard Building science to discuss the pocket neighborhood he is developing in Granite Falls NC. It is a neighborhood of 11 homes that is within walking distance of many stores and restaurants in Downtown Granite Falls. These homes will be super energy efficient and designed for healthy living. For more information you can go to www.dukestreetcottages.com Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The...
2022-07-2229 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike and Tim Talk about Mortages 2022 EditionOn this episode Mike talks to Tim Kerley Senior Mortgage Banker NMLS#448270 of Atlantic Bay Mortgage Group about how the local lending market is faring as we head toward the midpoint of 2022. Some of the topics discussed: *Advice for first time buyers *How interest rates are determined *Historical perspective of interest rates *Advice to self employed borrowers Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. P...
2022-05-2451 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike talks with Nathan Huret about HKY 4 VetsOn this episode we talk with Nathan Huret of HKY 4 Vets to talk about their program and how they are connecting Veterans to companies in our area to fill some of the open jobs in our community. I definitely learned a lot from our conversation and I hope you do as well. For more information on this great program go to hky4vets.com Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page.
2022-03-2430 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike is Interviewed by Hal Row of WHKYOn this episode we are sharing Mikes interview with Hal Row on WHKY a local radio station in Hickory NC. This time Mike was interviewed and they discussed the local housing market. This recording is being used with permission by WHKY. Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and...
2022-01-2543 minThe Real Hickory Podcast2021 Review and 2022 Outlook for Real EstateI had not posted in awhile so I thought it would be a good time to talk about the market since the year end statistics are now out for our area. This one is a quick one but hopefully you get something out if it. Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real E...
2022-01-2210 min
The Real Hickory PodcastLearning about the Charlotte FC with Shawn McIntoshIt is a pretty exciting time to live within an hour of Charlotte with all the growth around us and new people coming to the area. On this show we chatted with Shawn McIntosh Chief Fan Officer with the Charlotte Football Club that will be playing at Bank of America Stadium in February. In this interview we discuss why it is significant for our area to have an MLS team and what to expect the fan experiece to be like when the season starts. This is a great show to listen to if you are new to...
2021-11-1018 min
MIKEDJKELLY Shorter Than Short PodcastMIKE KELLY CONTINUITY ANNOUNCER DEMOIf you need a Continuity Announcer I'm your man mike.djkelly@gmail.com
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2021-09-0605 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMortgage Talk with Tim KelrleyOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast Mike chats with Tim Kerley a Mortgage Lender (NMLS #448270, Licensed in NC) with Atlantic Bay Mortgage to discuss local lending in our area. Tim offered some great advice on how to make sure that you are pre-approved before you even make that offer. They also discussed some alternate loan products that could help someone get into a home. To reach Tim: timkerley@atlanticbay.com or www.atlanticbay.com/timkerley You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the H...
2021-07-1355 min
MIKEDJKELLY Shorter Than Short Podcast17th May 2021 - BCB 106.6FM News at 6pm with Mike KellyBCB 106.6FM News at 6pm with Mike Kelly
THE LATEST BRADFORD NEWS
Lockdown restrictions eased
Cyclone Tauktae
Bradford firearms discharge
Clayton house fire
Wellbeing Walk at Cliffe Castle
Bradford’s Plastic Surgery and Burns Research Unit
Sport
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2021-05-1703 minMIKEDJKELLY Shorter Than Short Podcast17th May 2021 - BCB 106.6FM News at 1pm with Mike KellyBCB 106.6FM News at 1pm with Mike Kelly
THE LATEST BRADFORD NEWS
Lockdown restrictions eased
Cyclone Tauktae
Cardiovascular disease in females
Greenpeace report
Bradford’s Plastic Surgery and Burns Research Unit
Calls for an independent regulator in English football
Weather
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2021-05-1703 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTalking Crawdads and Couch Potatoes with Ashley SalinasOn this episode Mike chats with Ashley Salinas Director of Marketing, Communications and Merchandise for the Hickory Crawdads. We talked about how the Crawdads will be handling safety this season and some of the awesome promotions they have planned as they prepare for Opening night on 5/11/2021. For more Information about this season and the team Click Here Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: Th...
2021-04-1721 min
The Real Hickory PodcastVacation and Travel Advice from Noelle WachterOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast Mike talked to Noelle Wachter of Insights in Travel to discuss vacation and travel in the current environment and why using a travel advisor is a good idea. To Contact Noelle directly just visit her website at: www.InsightsInTravel.com You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on t...
2021-03-0741 min
UrbangelicalThe ECCLESIA Leader Profile
What do leaders look like before they’re leaders? In this episode Mike Kelly shares the Northwest Networks answer to that question by introducing the ECCLESIA Leader Profile designed to help pastors and parents identify and encourage young leaders become what God has gifted them to be.
2021-03-0212 min
The Real Hickory PodcastJacky Eubanks Tells Us, What's Going on In Sherrills FordOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast Mike talks to Jacky Eubanks, Planning Director with Catawba County about the development that is happening in the Sherrills Ford area. It is a pretty wide ranging discussion and Jacky gives out a ton of information about what is happening in the eastern part of the county. To Contact Jacky you can email him at jeubanks@catawbacountync.gov You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike...
2021-02-2035 min
The Real Hickory PodcastHow it Started and Where its GoingFor the final podcast of 2020 Mike talked to two of his agents Roseann Flowers and Jennifer Elkins to review the local market in 2020 and talk about where things are going in 2021. It was the first time we had a show with multiple guests and we packed in a lot of information. Please subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify You can also see a video version of this on The Real Hickory Podcast Facebook page our the HREG YouTube page. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is...
2020-12-211h 05
The Real Hickory PodcastCommercial Real Estate Update with Ryan LovernOn this episode Mike talks to local commercial real estate expert Ryan Lovern with Commercial First Real Estate in Hickory, NC. They have a wide ranging discussion about what is hot and what is not so hot in the commercial market today. They also discuss Opportunity zones and how some DOT changes might affect future development in our area. We promise that you will be much more informed after listening to this show. For more information about Ryan and her Company go to www.CommercialFirst.net Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is ho...
2020-10-2849 min
UrbangelicalChurch Planting in the UK - feat. Matt Round Welcome to Urbangelical, I'm Mike Kelly, and I have the great opportunity to talk to a longtime friend, Matt Round. He's currently planting a church in Edinburgh, Scotland called Hope City Church.
2020-10-1546 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike Talks Home Building with Mark ChildersOn this episode Mike talked to Mark Childers of Classic Home Renovations about the building and renovation process. There is a lot of really good information in here so we hope you enjoy it. Mark is a General Contractor in the Hickory area, and his company can be found at www.classichomerenovations.com Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from Mike and do not reflect the views of any other organization. If yo...
2020-09-2241 min
The Real Hickory PodcastCity Walk/River Walk Update with Sarah KillianOn this episode we speak with Sarah Killian, Communications Specialist with the City of Hickory to talk about how things are progressing with the City Wak, The River Walk and the Trivium Business park. It was a very informative discussion and it is exciting to see how close we are to being able to enjoy Hickory in a whole new way. For more information on these projects go to https://www.hickorync.gov/bond-information Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions a...
2020-07-2730 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMike Talks COVID-19 with Dr. Peltzer Today we talked to Dr. David Peltzer about COVID-19 in our area and how it is transmitted and how we should be behaving to limit transmission. It was a good conversation and I hope people take heed and realize that wearing a mask in some public spaces is better than getting shut down again. Please feel free to share this because there is a lot of really good information. The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show...
2020-06-1931 min
The Real Hickory PodcastChamber of Catawba County on COVID-19On this episode Mike talks to Lindsay Keisler President and CEO of the Chamber of Catawba County (our local Chamber of Commerce). They have a great discussion on how The Chamber is helping local business stay informed and what they are doing to support them as things begin to open up. To keep in touch with what they are doing go to www.catawbachamber.org We also produced this in video format so if you want to watch that fo to youtube or check out the podcast facebook page. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast i...
2020-05-1233 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTim Kerley Talks Mortgages post COVID-19Today Mike talked with Tim Kerley of Atlantic Bay Mortgage Group in Hickory. Tim talked about how the mortgage industry is adapting in a post COVID-19 environment. Tim explained how interest rates are figured and what consumers need to know about forbearance. We even discuss local take out options and some TV shows that we are watching. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any other o...
2020-04-3034 min
The Real Hickory PodcastCoping with COVID-19 in Catawba ValleyJust Mike on this episode so it is short on time but has a ton of content. Discussion includes the local real estate market, some great people helping our community through this crazy time and some organizations that need our support. Please share with anyone you think it can help and hopefully we will be back in a couple weeks with our normal guest format. he Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not ref...
2020-03-2906 min
The Real Hickory PodcastBeth Williams Explains Why You Need a Closing AttorneyOn this episode Mike chats with Beth Williams of Williams Law Firm in Hickory to discuss the closing attorney's role in the real estate transaction. They have a wide ranging discussion on why title insurance is important and even talk about things going on around the Hickory area. Give it a listen and share with your friends. The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any other organization. If you are i...
2020-02-1424 min
The Real Hickory PodcastLearning about Women's Resource Center with Michelle MorganOn this episode Mike talks to Michelle Morgan, Executive Director of Women's Resource Center in Hickory. They talked about what WRC does for the community, upcoming events, and how they help local women. She also discussed how people can help via volunteering or donations. The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any other organization. If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast or advertising opportunities reach out to...
2020-02-0225 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTalking Local Entrepreneurship With Zack CranfordOn this episode Mike chats with Zack Cranford the founder of several local businesses in our area including Standard Oyster Co. in Hickory, Charolais Steakhouse in Hickory, Foothills Distillery in Conover, and Granny's Country Kitchen in Claremont. Zack talks about how he got started in business right out of college and what it is like be a local business owner. They also discuss how positive the outlook is for our area with all of the great projects going on in Hickory, Newton and Conover. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hos...
2020-01-2822 min
The Real Hickory PodcastLearning About Appraisals with Christine WinnOn this episode of The Real Hickory Podcast we talk to Christine Winn of Winn Apprasial Group about the real estate appraisal process and some of her favorite things about our area. There is a lot of information in this one and we hope that you enjoy it. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any other organization. If you are interested in being a guest o...
2020-01-1144 min
The Real Hickory PodcastAaron Kohrs Talks about Greenway TransportationOn this episode Mike talks to Aaron Kohrs of Greenway Transportation. They discuss public transportation in our area and a little bit about what it is like to run for local public office. Hopefully you will learn some things about our area that you did not know before. For more info about Greenway go to www.MyGreenway.org Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any...
2019-11-1831 min
The Real Hickory PodcastCameron Bixby Talks About Hickory Young ProfessionalsOn this episode Mike talks to Cameron Bixby about Hickory Young Professionals (HYP) a networking group for local professionals 21-40 years old. They talk on a variety of topics including local food, swimming with sting rays and her day job at Catawba Insurance in Catawba NC. For more info about HYP go to www.HickoryHYP.com For more info about Cameron's company go to: https://www.catawbainsurance.com/ Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on...
2019-11-0926 min
The Real Hickory PodcastRomeo Heatherly Talks about Business NetworkingOn this episode Mike talks with Romeo Heatherly of Romeo Heatherly Insurance in Hickory. On the show they discuss a business networking group he belongs to called BNI and how it has helped his business over the years. Listen as they discuss wide ranging topics from insurance, favorite Valley Hills mall store and where to get a good burger in Asheville. To contact Romeo go to his website at www.RomeoIns.com Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The...
2019-11-0426 min
The Real Hickory PodcastHope Halbert Talks About Getting Started in Real EstateOn this episode Mike chats with REALTOR Hope Halbert where they discuss getting into the real estate business, the state of the local market and even a little bit about ghosts. Follow Hope on Instagram @hopehalbertrealtor or check out her website at www.HopeHalbert.com Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on the show are from mike and do not reflect the views of any other organization. If you are interested in being a guest on...
2019-10-0518 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTalking Biking and Marketing with Ryan CarrollOn this episode Mike chats with Ryan Carroll of Full Metal Chicken on a couple cool topics. First they talk about the Lake Hickory Trails which is a mountain bike trail system in Hickory NC. They discuss how it was started and how people can enjoy it now. The conversation then shifts to Ryan's company Full Metal Chicken a local full service digital advertising agency. It is a great conversation where they talk about tips for social media and some things that many businesses are currently overlooking by accident. We hope you enjoy it and share with your friends. ...
2019-09-2133 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTalking about Early Childhood Development with Kim HoldenOn todays podcast Mike talked to Kim Lyke Holden Executive Director of the Catawba County Partnership for Children. She has been in this role for 21 years and has lived in the Hickory Area since the mid 90's. The Catawba County Partnership for Children has several programs for Pre-K children and their parents that most people do not know about. For more information on the programs offered go to www.CatawbaKids.com or call 828-695-6501 Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group In...
2019-09-1317 min
The Real Hickory PodcastMandy Pitts Hildebrand Talks Hickory TourismOn this episode Mike talks to Mandy Pitts Hildebrand CEO of the Hickory-Conover Tourism Development Authority also known as the Hickory Metro Convention Center and Visitors Bureau. Mandy has been in this role for almost 4 years and previously was the Communications and Brand director for the City of Hickory. Mandy is a Hickory native and is really committed to our areas success. Today they discussed the types of events hosted at the convention center and the types of things that draw people to visit our area. It is a great discussion and if you like it...
2019-07-1823 min
The Real Hickory PodcastCommercial Real Estate Talk with Ryan Lovern #16This week Mike talked with Ryan Lovern of Commercial First Real Estate in Hickory, NC. Ryan has been doing commercial real estate in our area for years and offers us a different take on what is going on in our hometown. On this episode Mike and Ryan discuss how the bond program is helping the local commercial market, opportunity zones and even why you need to pay attention to posted signs on peoples property. There is a lot of great information in this episode and we hope you enjoy it. Podcast Credits:
2019-05-1530 min
The Real Hickory PodcastTalking Real Estate with Erin HuntThis week Mike interviews one of HREG's top agents Erin Hunt. Erin has only been in the business a couple years but has really hit the ground running and is doing very well so far in her career. Mike and Erin talk about the current market, and what it is like to get into the real estate business. Mike also breaks out a new segment this week where he asks 10 quick fire questions and Erin gets to be the first one to answer. To contact Erin go to her website SoldByErinHunt.com or foll...
2019-04-0913 min
The Real Hickory PodcastChasing Charity with Kelly StewartThis week Mike talked to Kelly Stewart of Run Time Races to talk about his business and how he is able to help organizations in our area raise money for charitable causes. A big topic of conversation concerned the upcoming Charity Chase Half Marathon that is happening in Hickory on 4/13/19. Kelly gives us a glimpse into what charities are being helped and information on where to sign up if you want to run. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc...
2019-03-1819 min
The Real Hickory PodcastWhat is a Chamber of Commerce?This week Mike sat down with Lindsay Keisler President & CEO of the Catawba County Chamber of Commerce. Lindsay gives a great explanation of what the chamber does and also talks about some of the programs that they are working on to make life better in our area especially for the local business community. I promise you will learn a lot if you are into that sort of thing. Podcast Credits: The Real Hickory Podcast is hosted by Mike Kelly Jr. President of Hickory Real Estate Group Inc. The opinions and views on...
2019-03-0938 minThe Real Hickory PodcastMike Interviewed on WHKYToday Mike was interviewed on WHKY, a local radio station in the Hickory NC Area. They provided us with the audio from the show so we are sharing it with a quick intro but otherwise unedited. Mike has been an advertiser with WHKY in the past and the Hal Row is a local treasure. It was an honor to be on his show and hopefully the listeners got something of value from our talk. Podcast Credits: Radio show was recoded on 3/4/19 at WHKY PO Box 1059 Hickory, NC 28603 828-322-1290 Fax 828-322-8256 whky.com
2019-03-0453 minThe Real Hickory PodcastBetter Hope you have insurance with Kevin McMillanThis week we talked to Kevin Mc Millan who has an insurance office in Newton NC. We discussed how to get into the insurance business, tips for getting homeowners insurance and things to look out for when picking an insurance company. It was a great conversation and Kevin was very informative. Kevin even talked about some past horror stories he has heard about in his years in the business. I really think you will like our discussion. To contact Kevin reach out to him via email at kevin@protectingcarolina.com Podcast Credits:
2019-03-0227 minThe Real Hickory PodcastMike and Dave talk HickoryThis weeks episode features Dave Leonetti the Business Services Manager with the City of Hickory. This show features discussion about the progress on the bond referendum and the future of the Hickory Trail system. They also discuss some similarities between Pawnee Indiana and Hickory NC and there is also a little bit of South Jersey/Philly talk. If you are interested in creating a business in Hickory or just want more information about the future plans of Hickory reach out to Dave via email at dleonetti@hickorync.gov Podcast Credits: Th...
2019-02-1731 min