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Write That Down70: Growth w/ Evan Quinter and Harry BiddleEvan Quinter and Harry Biddle join Nate and Jacob to reminisce and talk about growth before we go on hiatus.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-06-071h 02Write That Down69: The Future of WTDNate and Jacob give an update on the future of Write That Down.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-05-1907 minWrite That Down68: Artificial IntelligenceNate and Jacob dive into the current ethics discussion of AI in creative fields.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-05-0540 minWrite That Down67: Narrative vs. Documentary StorytellingNate and Jacob trade questions and stories to delve into the similarities and differences between telling stories in fiction or nonfiction.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-04-2149 minWrite That Down66: Project Therapy VNate returns to the show, so he and Jacob catch up on the projects they’ve been working on so far this year.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-04-0756 minWrite That Down65: The Last of Us S1 - SEPCDA w/ Harry, Bekah, and EmilFor our third straight SEPCDA episode, we’re joined by Harry Biddle, Bekah Ford, and Emil Eklund to discuss season 1 of HBO’s The Last of Us.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-03-241h 50Write That Down64: Fire of Love - SEPCDA w/ Andrew NovakAndrew Novak joins us for another SEPCDA, this time about the Oscar-nominated documentary Fire of Love!
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-03-101h 02Write That Down63: All Quiet on the Western Front - SEPCDA w/ Stephen NovakWe’re joined by Jacob’s brother, Stephen Novak, to go in-depth on All Quiet on the Western Front as part of our new segment, the Super Exclusive Premium Creative Dialogue Alliance!
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-02-241h 03Write That DownCheck back later today for Episode 63!Episode 63 is slightly delayed but check back in a few hours!2023-02-1700 minWrite That Down62: Definitely ProcrastinatingNate lets Jacob play catch-up on his Definitely Not Procrastinating recommendations.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-02-0355 minWrite That Down61: Resolutions for 2023To ring in the new year, Nate and Jacob each give their creative resolutions for 2023.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-01-2036 minWrite That Down60: The Brainbow IV w/ Jack Badger and Sam WherleyThis week, we return to the Brainbow, this time with returning guests Jack Badger and Sam Wherley as we pitch a new dark comedy-musical.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2023-01-061h 01Write That Down59: 2022 in ReviewAs 2022 draws to a close, Nate and Jacob reminisce on how the year has gone for them, and look back on the resolutions they made at the beginning of the year.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-12-2344 minWrite That Down58: Catching UpWe’re back for season 3! Nate and Jacob get caught up on their creative lives and how things have been going as we near the end of 2022.
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Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-12-0947 minWrite That Down57: Season 3 starts on December 9th!After a couple month hiatus, Nate and Jacob are coming back with new episodes of Write That Down! Tune in on Friday, December 9th for the start of season 3.2022-11-2500 minWrite That Down56: Project Therapy IVAfter a brief break, Nate and Jacob check in with each other to talk about wedding videography and grad school in another edition of Project Therapy.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-09-0249 minWrite That Down55: Processing - The OutlineNate and Jacob continue the Processing mini-series and discuss the outline for their upcoming sketch project.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-08-0535 minWrite That Down54: Processing - The PremiseNate and Jacob start a new mini-series called Processing’, where we take you through our creative processes while we try to make something. As an intro, we hash out what concept we’re going to pursue.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-07-2228 min
Write That Down53: Storytelling in Video GamesNate and Jacob are back to talk about the unique forms of storytelling in video games. EDITOR’S NOTE: Sorry about the wonky audio on Jacob’s end starting about a third of the way through. We’ll work to fix that for next time!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-07-0151 minWrite That Down52: The Episode About Nothing w/ Evan QuinterNate’s gone on vacation, so Evan Quinter returns to talk about anything and everything with Jacob.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-06-1753 minWrite That Down51: Inspiration on VacationWith Nate back from Germany, we talk about our recent experiences abroad and how we can draw inspiration from them.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-06-1032 minWrite That Down50: The Brainbow III w/ Fisher Stroud and Katie BrownIt’s our 50th episode! To celebrate, we invite Fisher Stroud and Katie Brown back to the show to do some Brainbowing.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-06-0348 minWrite That Down49: Pitch MeetingNate and Jacob each bring two ideas to the table to pitch what project they should work on next.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-05-061h 01Write That Down48: Readjusting GoalsAfter a prolonged spring break, Nate and Jacob are back to talk about when and how to readjust your goals and expectations.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-04-2955 minWrite That Down47: It’s Spring Break!We’re taking a short break this month due to different life events, but not before one more guest calls into the show!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-03-0409 minWrite That Down46: Learning and Buying EquipmentThis week, we dive into some more equipment talk, and how beginners can learn more about cameras that they’re thinking of purchasing.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-02-2546 minWrite That Down45: Talking Oscars and First JobsJacob’s a little bitter about some Oscar snubs, so he asks Nate what the point of any of it is, and then they dive into their weirdest first job stories.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-02-1855 minWrite That Down44: The Art of Things: Nature w/ Grace LewisWe’re back with another edition of the Art of Things, this time talking to our friend, Grace Lewis, about all things nature and photography!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-02-111h 01Write That Down43: A Successful Portfolio w/ Tatum PoirierTatum Poirier joins the show to talk about what the job search for the creative field looks like in 2022, as well as how she builds a successful portfolio.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-02-0451 minWrite That Down42: Language w/ Sam WherleySam Wherley returns to the show to talk about how both learning a language and language in writing affect our creative endeavours. Apologies for the weird audio at times!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2022-01-281h 10Write That Down41: Project Therapy IIINate and Jacob return to the couch to talk about projects they’ve got going on in their lives.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2022-01-2149 minWrite That Down40: The Brainbow II w/ Evan Birch and Xander MansbergerWe return to the Brainbow for a very special 40th episode with our good friends Evan Birch and Xander Mansberger, as we generate ideas for our very own mockumentary-food film.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2022-01-141h 04Write That Down39: Resolutions for 2022We give our personal, creative, and podcast resolutions to ring in 2022!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2022-01-0746 minWrite That Down38: 2021 In ReviewJacob and Nate reminisce on the past year of doing the podcast and other creative endeavors as we gear up for 2022!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2021-12-3134 minWrite That Down37: Happy Holidays from WTD!Happy Holidays! We’re taking a break this week as we’re off with family and moving into new houses, but we’ll be back next week. Stay safe!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2021-12-2404 minWrite That Down36: Mail’s Here - Exploring New MediumsThis week, we dive into a couple of listener questions surrounding different mediums we’d be interested in trying, and what topics we either want to incorporate into our work more.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com2021-12-1743 minWrite That Down35: Diversifying Creative Endeavors w/ Byron Alexander and Evan QuinterThis week, we’re joined again by Evan Quinter and special guest Byron Alexander. Byron is an animator, musician, podcaster, and more, so we discuss his projects and how we multitask our different creative endeavors.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-12-101h 21Write That Down34: Nostalgia in CreativityThis week, we talk about the media that we’ve consumed that makes us nostalgic, as well as how those emotions affect our own creativity today.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-12-0347 minWrite That Down33: When To Take a BreakWe’re back for season 2! We discuss what we’ve been up to and how we decide when it is time to take a break from our work.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-11-2652 minWrite That Down32: End of Season 1Nate and Jacob discuss the end of the first season of Write That Down, and when you can expect to hear from us again!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-09-2305 minWrite That Down31: Cultivating Community w/ Rohan Bandekar and Daniel MuleadyThis week, we’re joined by Rohan Bandekar and Daniel Muleady as we discuss their upcoming film for their senior capstone, as well as their journey in jumpstarting a studio and a creative community.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-09-161h 26Write That Down30: The Art of Things - Spontaneity w/ Harry BiddleToday, we’re joined once again by friend of the show, Harry Biddle. He walks us through how he stays adventurous and spontaneous in his day-to-day life, and even tells some stories from his time at sea.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-09-091h 01Write That Down29: Inspiration vs. ImitationWe get into the difference between inspiration and imitation after some interesting news from Hollywood breaks. We discuss where the line is between copying an existing work vs. adapting it, and a lot more.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-09-0241 minWrite That Down28: Live Performance w/ Jack BadgerToday, our good friend and singer-songwriter, Jack Badger, joins us to talk about his experiences in music performance. We go over his music origins, songwriting process, and where he’d like to go from here.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-08-2648 minWrite That Down27: Project Therapy II w/ Evan QuinterWe welcome Evan Quinter back to the podcast so that we can discuss his thoughts on our previous episode on creative competition. Then, we dive into our second session of Project Therapy, where we talk to each other through ideas that we're trying to get off the ground.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-08-201h 10Write That Down26: Supporting Each OtherDescription: Today, we’re discussing how we can best support each others projects. We talk about support systems in college vs the professional world, and especially when we feel like we don’t know enough to contribute.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-08-1246 minWrite That Down25: Quarterly UpdateIt’s a different kind of episode this week as we reflect on the first 25 episodes on the podcast and discuss what we’re excited about for the future of the show.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-08-0516 minWrite That Down24: The Comfort ZoneToday, we’re talking about our own comfort zones. We discuss how they influence what projects we take, how we expand our comfort zone, and challenge ourselves in ways to step outside of that zone.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-07-2945 minWrite That Down23: Doubt w/ Katie BrownWe’re joined by friend of the show, Katie Brown. We talk about how doubt emerges in both our creative endeavors and in leadership roles, as well as how we combat it.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-07-221h 00Write That Down22: Creative CompetitionToday, we’re tackling the idea of creative competition and how we compare ourselves to others around us. We talk about both the positive and negative effects of a competitive mindset, as well as how you can maintain a healthy environment amidst competition.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-07-1551 minWrite That Down21: Mail’s Here!We’re diving into some emails and questions that we’ve gotten over the past few weeks. Among other things, we’ll be talking about how to collaborate with strangers and how to start marketing yourself.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-07-0847 minWrite That Down20: The Brainbow w/ Harry, Owen, and JacobFor a very special 20th episode, we decided to bring on our friends Harry Biddle, Owen Grafe, and Jacob Latour to introduce a new segment we’re calling ‘the Brainbow’. Today, we’re taking a listener writing prompt and figuring out what story we can make, and how we could make it.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-07-0151 minWrite That Down19: The Art of Things - Coffee w/ Bekah FordWe’re joined by our good friend, Bekah Ford, to kick off our new segment called ‘The Art of Things’. We talk to her about the intricacy and artistry that goes into coffee at every stage, and how it cultivates a culture of creativity.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-06-2447 minWrite That Down18: Setting Up a Home StudioThis week, we’re going over what we prioritize in our home studio setups. We discuss what we need out of a studio space and improvements we want to make in the future.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-06-1741 minWrite That Down17: Stuck in a RutToday, we’re talking about what we do when we get stuck in a rut. We dive into our experiences, getting stagnant in hobby work versus paid work, and how we jumpstart our creative thinking.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-06-1043 minWrite That Down16: Emotionally-Driven StorytellingThis week, we discuss how to effectively incorporate emotion and our lived experiences into our work. We take a look at how we create a sense of empathy and awareness in our projects, as well as how we draw from our own lives while also finding a new perspective.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-06-0345 minWrite That Down15: Taking Criticism w/ Alex StoudtWe’re joined by friend of the show, Alex Stoudt. After we catch up, we discuss the best ways to give and take criticism by going through past creative experiences and how we’ve learned from them.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-05-271h 02Write That Down14: Getting Paid in ExposureOur main focus today is the phenomenon in creative work of being paid with exposure. We dive into unpaid internships, speculative work, and knowing when you’re being taken advantage of.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-05-2050 minWrite That Down13: Impactful Experiences in Music w/ Sam WherleySam Wherley joins us to talk about impactful experiences we’ve had in music. We reminisce on memories of our performances together, and go in depth about the effect music has had on our creative process.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-05-1350 minWrite That Down12: Sharing Work Is ScaryThis week, we take on our listener-submitted topic from friend of the show, Evan Quinter. He asks us how we overcome the fear of sharing our work and learn to take pride in what we do.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-05-0642 minWrite That Down11: BurnoutBurnout is something that can affect anyone and everyone, so we define it and discuss coping/prevention methods. We also get a listener question that follows up on our equipment upgrade conversation.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-04-2946 minWrite That Down10: Reflecting on The Y-Men w/ Xander, Grace, and JacobFor our tenth episode, we invited our friends Xander Mansberger, Grace Cook-Huffman, and Jacob Latour to join us. We reminisce about our time working on “The Y-Men”, such as how they got involved, challenges they faced, and favorite moments from set.
Watch ‘The Y-Men’ here!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-04-221h 00Write That Down9: Making a Productive EnvironmentWhether you’re trying to write or trying to maintain a happy and productive set, it can be easy to get distracted or side-tracked by everything around us. So, this week, we take a look at how we create an environment that encourages productivity.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-04-1547 minWrite That Down8: Project Therapy, Session 1This week, we’re introducing a new segment this week called “Project Therapy”. This is a way for us to talk through upcoming projects with each other, regardless of how developed they are. Whether we’re in the early concept stage or we’re about to click ‘export’, it’s a way for us to ask questions and help one another.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-04-0846 minWrite That Down7: Originality w/ Evan QuinterToday, we’re joined by our friend and old housemate, Evan Quinter. Evan has taken part in a lot of creative projects, even some of our own video projects. But today, we’re focusing on his music. We talk about his history in composition, being original, and adapting existing work.
Watch a performance of Breath of the Ocean here!
Listen to Eric Ian Farmer here!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-04-0147 minWrite That Down6: When Creativity Doesn’t PayIt can be hard to make content creation your career. This week, we talk about steps we’ve taken to change it from a hobby to a job, and how we stayed creatively motivated when that job becomes more mechanical.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-03-2543 minWrite That Down5: Adaptability w/ Fisher StroudOur good friend, Fisher Stroud, joins the show as our first guest! We discuss her creative history, her senior thesis film, “SHE IS”, and adaptability in projects.
Watch “SHE IS” here!
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-03-1851 minWrite That Down4: When To UpgradeDeciding when to upgrade your equipment and what to upgrade it with can be a difficult task, so this week, we talk about what we recommend in the pursuit of being “cutting edge”.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-03-1143 minWrite That Down3: Imposter SyndromeToday, we talk about our experiences with imposter syndrome. We dive deep into what it is, how it affects everyone, and how we overcome it.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-03-0443 minWrite That Down2: Lessons from CollaborationThis week, we ask ourselves how we can be the best collaborator possible. To find the answer, we reflect on the pros and cons we’ve learned from our experiences in both teaming up with others and going solo.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-02-2544 minWrite That Down1: Our Creative BeginningsIn the inaugural episode, Nate and Jacob talk to each other about their creative origins, how they’ve grown, and how they’d like to continue to grow.
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Music by Ketsa and Punch Deck.
Email us at askwtd@gmail.com.2021-02-1845 min