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Nathan Rittenhouse & Cameron McAllister
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Thinking Out Loud
Is the Bible Enough? Hidden Influences on How We Read Scripture
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into a theologically rich conversation sparked by a dialogue between Bishop Robert Barron and N.T. Wright on how to read the Bible. With Bible sales surging across North America, many Christians are picking up Scripture for the first time—or returning with fresh eyes—and asking: "Where do I begin?" Nathan and Cameron explore the unavoidable role of tradition, community, and the Holy Spirit in biblical interpretation. They challenge hyper-individualistic readings common in Western Christianity and unpack the theological implications of relying on YouTube influencers, historical cont...
2025-08-19
40 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Heavy Metal Evil? Reaction to Ozzy Osbourne’s Death
In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive into the recent news of Ozzy Osbourne’s death, using it as a springboard for a deep theological and cultural conversation that explores the intersections of Christianity, heavy metal, and the spiritual undercurrents of modern music. With Cameron leading the way as a lifelong metalhead, the discussion unpacks Black Sabbath’s occult themes, the infamous "devil’s interval," and how the genre both reflects and distorts spiritual hunger. The episode challenges believers to wrestle with cultural gray areas, discern the difference between provocation and genuine spiritual engagement, and co...
2025-08-08
41 min
Thinking Out Loud
Contentment, Crisis, and Contemplation
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive into a rich theological reflection on spiritual preparedness in a chaotic world—using the metaphor of a flat spare tire to explore what it means to be caught off guard by life’s inevitable crises. Drawing from Scripture, cultural trends, and the wisdom of thinkers like Kierkegaard and Eugene Peterson, they challenge modern Christians to consider the cost of distraction, emotional exhaustion, and constant busyness. Are we cultivating the spiritual depth and contemplative practices necessary to face suffering, loss, aging, and the deeper questions of faith? This episode spea...
2025-08-05
41 min
Thinking Out Loud
The Weariness of Watching: News Overload and the Michael Tate Scandal
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron explore the growing weariness many Christians feel toward today's nonstop news cycle—from the emptiness of sensational headlines to the deeper cultural and spiritual implications of media overload. They reflect on why stories that once captivated now seem meaningless, and why skepticism toward both the news and its messengers is rising. The conversation then turns to the sobering allegations surrounding Michael Tate, former member of DC Talk and the Newsboys, prompting a hard but necessary theological reflection on celebrity culture within the Church, moral integrity, and the long-term impact of...
2025-07-22
40 min
Thinking Out Loud
Discipleship in a Distracted Age: Karl Johnson on Spiritual Formation
Join Nathan Rittenhouse and Karl "KJ" Johnson of the C.S. Lewis Institute for a powerful theological discussion on discipleship, virtue, and spiritual renewal in today's culture. In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and KJ explore the growing hunger among Christians for more than entertainment or self-help—diving into the often-ignored middle ground of spiritual formation, holiness, and Christlike transformation. Drawing from decades of experience, KJ unpacks the importance of mentorship, community, and spiritual disciplines, while confronting the challenges of modern Christian life. This is a must-watch for believers seeking serious, biblically grounded conversation on...
2025-07-18
48 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Biohacking the Death of Being Human?
In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron unpack the modern obsession with transhumanism, biohacking, and human optimization in light of Christian theology. Drawing on insights from Miroslav Volf and Renaissance thinker Pico della Mirandola, they explore why simply “being human” often feels insufficient in a secular age shaped by practical atheism. From AI hype to post-human ambitions, the discussion contrasts superficial technological efficiency with the biblical vision of fullness, meaning, and embodied life. For Christians wrestling with cultural trends that promise more control but deliver less soul, this is a timely conversation on what it trul...
2025-07-15
36 min
Thinking Out Loud
Exposing the Atheist Double Standard About God and Evidence
In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron tackle the popular atheist claim that the existence of God is an "extraordinary claim" requiring extraordinary evidence—flipping the script by examining the hidden assumptions and metaphysical commitments of skeptics themselves. Drawing on insights from thinkers like Richard Swinburne and Charles Taylor, they unpack why belief in an intelligible universe, laws of logic, and human consciousness are themselves extraordinary—and why secular worldviews often rest on faith-like assumptions. Perfect for Christians seeking a deeper, intellectually rigorous faith, this conversation explores how to respond to modern skepticism with confidence, nuan...
2025-07-11
34 min
Thinking Out Loud
Faith Kipyegon & Feminism: Fastest Woman Alive Not Fast Enough
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron speak as fathers and Christian thinkers about the deeper meaning behind Faith Kipyegon’s historic attempt to become the first woman to run a sub-four-minute mile. Drawing from Scripture, physiology, and personal experience, they explore the God-given distinctions between men and women—how those differences should be honored, not erased—and why modern culture’s attempts to redefine equality often create confusion rather than clarity. Through the lens of sports, biology, and fatherhood, they reflect on how Christians can disciple their daughters (and sons) to embrace womanhood and manhood as gifts, not liabilities. With a t...
2025-07-08
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Young Americans Turning to Socialism?
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron engage in a thoughtful, theologically grounded discussion on the changing political and cultural landscape in America, using the recent New York City mayoral primary as a springboard. They reflect on the growing appeal of socialism and even communism among younger voters, and explore why traditional capitalist and conservative frameworks are increasingly being rejected. Rather than dismissing these trends as youthful ignorance, Nathan and Cameron dig deeper—analyzing the plausibility structures, economic realities, and cultural narratives shaping a generation that feels disconnected from ownership, community, and purpose. For Christians seeking a...
2025-07-04
32 min
Thinking Out Loud
Smartest Man Alive Is a Christian — But Does That Matter?
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron respond to viral claims that Younghoon Kim—allegedly the individual with the highest IQ ever recorded—is a Christian. While some in the apologetics community tout this as a cultural win, Nathan and Cameron explore whether raw intelligence should be used to validate the Christian faith. They dig into the distinction between IQ and biblical wisdom, the long-standing intellectual tradition of Christianity, and the dangers of seeking external validation from secular standards. The hosts challenge the assumption that faith needs elite endorsement, arguing that wisdom, not intelligence, is the true...
2025-07-01
29 min
Thinking Out Loud
What Happened to Pride Month? The Culture Shift You Didn’t See Coming
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister explore the noticeable shift in cultural momentum surrounding Pride Month 2025. Has society grown weary of identity politics and expressive individualism? Is there a deeper hunger for meaning—one that shallow slogans and corporate branding can’t satisfy? With thoughtful Christian analysis, they unpack why Pride messaging feels quieter this year, the ideological fractures within the LGBTQIA+ movement, and how historic Christian symbols like the rainbow are being reclaimed. If you're a believer seeking intelligent, biblically grounded discussion on Pride Month, cultural fatigue, and the renewal of Christian witn...
2025-06-27
26 min
Thinking Out Loud
Jordan Peterson Jubilee Analysis
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron react to Jordan Peterson’s appearance in the viral Jubilee debate—and things get theologically intense. They unpack where Peterson’s thinking aligns with Christian truth and where it dangerously veers off course. From disordered loves and worship to the meaning of belief, Nathan and Cameron bring biblical clarity and philosophical depth to the table. Along the way, they reference thinkers like Augustine, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, T.S. Eliot, David Foster Wallace, and Tom Holland, making this a must-listen for Christians who care about faith, reason, and the big questi...
2025-06-03
48 min
Thinking Out Loud
DC Embassy Shooting: Scapegoats, Sacrifice, and Violence
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron explore the recent DC embassy shooting through a Christian theological lens. Why do people scapegoat others? What drives individuals to violent action in the name of causes they don’t directly represent? Drawing on René Girard’s scapegoat theory, biblical concepts of atonement, and the moral confusion of modern culture, they analyze how this tragedy reveals the deep brokenness in human nature and our desperate attempts at meaning-making. With thoughtful insight and pastoral clarity, Nathan and Cameron reflect on individualism, ideological identity, and the limits of symbolic action. This conve...
2025-05-27
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Following Jesus in a Corrupt System: Moral Dilemmas
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we dive into the morally complex decision by the U.S. to reduce medical aid to Zambia due to systemic government corruption—and ask how Christians should think through such dilemmas. With a focus on ethical reasoning, moral calculus, and Christian theology, Nathan and Cameron explore the spiritual and practical tensions involved in foreign aid, workplace complicity, and the moral responsibilities of believers living in a broken system. What does Scripture say about giving, accountability, and justice? How do we balance compassion with stewardship? Join us for a deep, faith-informed conversation on gl...
2025-05-13
37 min
Thinking Out Loud
Autopsy of New Atheism: Why Its Arguments No Longer Hold Up
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron McAllister and Nathan Rittenhouse perform an intellectual autopsy of the New Atheist movement, reflecting on its cultural rise and current irrelevance. They unpack why arguments from figures like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris no longer resonate—especially in light of Christianity’s enduring philosophical and moral foundations. With references to current debates, including a dismantling of Lawrence Krauss’s secular claims, this episode provides Christians with a robust understanding of how to engage secular critiques with grace and intellectual rigor. Whether you're interested in apologetics, cultural commentary, or the inters...
2025-05-02
52 min
Thinking Out Loud
Food Hacks and FOMO
In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister explore how the globalization of food reflects much deeper cultural and spiritual shifts. From curry on British Airways to food hacks on TikTok, the conversation moves beyond cuisine to consider what we lose—culturally, theologically, and personally—when everything becomes an option and nothing remains rooted.Is the abundance of choice leading to a loss of identity, tradition, and self-control? And what does a faithful Christian response look like in a world of constant novelty and overstimulation?Join us for a thoughtful, theological disc...
2025-04-29
36 min
Thinking Out Loud
Alex O’Connor vs David Wood Analysis & Snow White
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron unpack the long-awaited debate between Christian apologist Dr. David Wood and atheist-turned-agnostic Alex O’Connor (a.k.a. Cosmic Skeptic) on the provocative question: Did Jesus claim to be God? With deep theological analysis, cultural commentary, and reflections on the intellectual strategies at play, this conversation is a must-watch for Christians who crave thoughtful engagement with current events, apologetics, and the challenges of modern skepticism. They explore the debate’s backstory—controversies, security threats, and the unexpected birthday showdown—and dive into the heart of the arguments presented. Along the way, they draw cultural...
2025-04-15
45 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Christianity a True Myth? Insights from Lewis & Tolkien
In this thought-provoking video, Nathan and Cameron delve into the intersection of theology, myth, and current cultural trends, with a special focus on C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien’s perspectives on myth within Christianity. They explore how myths, often seen as mere stories, can point to deeper truths, especially in the context of the Christian faith. Drawing on Lewis’s conversion and Tolkien’s insights, they examine the role of myth in understanding reality, contrasting it with modern secular myths like those found in Freudian psychology. This conversation challenges viewers to think critically about how Christianity fits i...
2025-04-08
37 min
Thinking Out Loud
Unpacking the Complexities of U.S.-Europe Relations
In this thought-provoking episode Nathan and Stuart McAllister delve into the complex relationship between the United States and Europe, exploring historical shifts, political alliances, and the cultural dynamics that have shaped both continents. With a focus on the intersection of history, theology, and current global events, Stuart offers a unique perspective shaped by his extensive experience living in both Europe and the U.S. This conversation touches on the evolution of Christian thought in the West, the role of liberal democracy, and the future of transatlantic relations—perfect for Christians seeking deep theological insights on the world's most pressing is...
2025-04-04
38 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is the Bible in Conflict with Modern Science?
In this thought-provoking episode, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the theological implications of the Bible's cosmological descriptions, particularly its reference to a three-tiered view of the universe: heavens above, earth in the middle, and an underworld beneath. Addressing a listener's question, they explore how to interpret these ancient descriptions in light of modern scientific understandings while maintaining a high view of Scripture. They discuss the tension between literal interpretations and the deeper, more metaphorical messages the Bible conveys about authority, power, and divine order. Ideal for Christians seeking to reconcile faith with current events and theological debate, this...
2025-03-28
35 min
Thinking Out Loud
How should a Christian think about Doubt?
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron discuss if faith is really the opposite of doubt. They dive into the nature of doubt and the hidden assumptions behind skepticism, challenging the idea that atheism is a neutral starting point. Drawing from thinkers like Leslie Newbigin and Michael Polanyi, they explore how faith and reason intersect. They also examine the intellectual roots of modern skepticism and its impact on contemporary debates. If you're interested in apologetics, theology, and the intersection of faith and culture, this discussion is for you! #Apologetics #Theology #FaithAndReason #ChristianPhilosophy #SkepticismDONATE LINK...
2025-03-07
41 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Christianity Making a Comeback? New Trends Challenge the Decline
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the current state of Christianity, focusing on the "decline of the decline" in religious participation in America. Drawing on data from Barna, Pew, and Ruth Graham's New York Times article, they highlight a surprising trend: although church participation continues to drop, the rate of this decline has slowed in recent years. They discuss potential reasons for this shift, including a focus on core believers and the rise of younger conservatives seeking more traditional faith practices. The conversation also delves into the growing appeal of rooted religious traditions, the changing dynamics between male...
2025-02-28
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Three Lies Shaping The World: "The Coddling of the American Mind' Reflection
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron revisit "The Coddling of the American Mind" by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff, offering a deep theological reflection on its three main untruths: "What doesn't kill you makes you weaker," "Trust your feelings," and "Life is a battle between good people and evil people." The conversation highlights how trauma has been redefined to include emotional distress, how emotionalism has become ingrained in societal thinking, and how the idea of good versus evil is often oversimplified in political discourse. Drawing connections to Christianity, the speakers emphasize how the teachings of Christ challenge these cultural...
2025-02-25
44 min
Thinking Out Loud
Wikipedia Co-Founder Skeptic No More
In this episode Nathan and Cameron dive into the fascinating story of Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, who recently made waves in theologically-informed online communities by publicly sharing his journey to Christianity. With a background in philosophy and technology, Sanger’s testimony is a unique, intellectually rigorous exploration of his spiritual transformation, structured into chapters for easy navigation. The discussion delves into Sanger’s skepticism, his critical engagement with both the new atheism and traditional apologetics, and his eventual embrace of Christianity. This analysis serves as a compelling example of how apologetics can influence even the most analytical minds.
2025-02-18
39 min
Thinking Out Loud
Politics and Religious Freedom: Mennonite Lawsuit Against the Trump Administration
Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the complex relationship between faith-based organizations, the federal government, and religious freedoms. They explore the controversial legal battle involving the Mennonite Church’s lawsuit against the Trump administration over religious rights and sanctuary practices, touching on themes of immigration, sanctuary cities, and the church's role in society. Through an engaging discussion, they navigate the delicate balance between moral convictions and adherence to federal law, drawing parallels with historical examples like the Underground Railroad and the Holocaust. This episode challenges Christian audiences to reflect on the tension between faith and politics, offering insights on ho...
2025-02-14
39 min
Thinking Out Loud
Whatever Happened to Dying for a Cause? (With Stuart McAllister)
We’re joined by Stuart McAllister to talk about the seismic cultural shift that’s led us away from self-sacrifice, patriotism, and martyrdom to radical individualism and an addiction to comfort and convenience. Is it really true that dying for a cause has gone the way of the dinosaur? Or are we seeing it emerge once again, albeit in different ways? And how do we as Christians overcome this addiction to comfort and convenience?
2025-01-10
36 min
Thinking Out Loud
Halloween and Violence
It’s our annual Halloween episode where Nathan lets Cameron off his leash to talk about spooky season and horror films. Cameron doesn’t have the most sympathetic audience here, but the discussion is always fun.
2024-10-29
44 min
Thinking Out Loud
Once More On Nationalism (with Stuart McAllister)
Stuart McAllister grew up in post-war Britain and is no stranger to the allure of nationalism. In this episode, we asked Stuart about his past experiences with nationalism, as well as his read on its global resurgence.
2024-09-27
38 min
Thinking Out Loud
A Discussion with Grandpa Rittenhouse
In this episode, Nathan sits down with his often quoted Grandpa to talk about the parallels between our era and the 1960s and how his church leadership style adapted to grow churches in the midst of cultural chaos. We hope this is an encouraging reminder to those who are interested in the future of the church.
2024-08-06
44 min
Thinking Out Loud
The State of the North American Church: An Interview with Stuart McAllister
It’s a time of great transition and social upheaval in North America and the church is far from immune. In this episode, we interview Stuart McAllister about this shifting dynamic and what it might mean for those of us who follow Christ today.
2024-07-09
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Inconvenient Truths with Stuart McAllister
We’ve just launched a free series taught by Stuart McAllister that consists of 7 videos titled, Inconvenient Truths. In this episode, Stuart joins us to discuss the series and offer some insights on how best to use it. There’s only one Al Gore reference.
2024-03-05
28 min
Thinking Out Loud
Movies vs. Books
With attention spans plummeting, some critics are arguing that watching a movie in one sitting is today’s equivalent of reading a book. Implicit in this argument is the notion that watching movies is inferior to reading books. But is that true? Nathan and Cameron have some differences here, but we’ll let you guess who stands where on the issue. Tune in to hear them hash it out.
2023-12-23
31 min
Thinking Out Loud
On It’s a Wonderful Life
Indisputably, one of the greatest Christmas films ever made, with a surprising existential gut-punch. In this episode, Nathan grills Cameron about the enduring greatness of Frank Capra’s classic.
2023-12-19
35 min
Thinking Out Loud
Let’s Talk Animal Rights, Part 2
Nathan Rittenhouse recently appeared on the Premier UnBelievable podcast to discuss the question, Do Animals have souls? His interlocutor in the discussion is Joyce D’Silva, Ambassador Emeritus for Compassion in World Farming. Click here to listen to the podcast and to read Nathan’s follow-up article. In this episode, Nathan begins by trying to convince Cameron to become a vegetarian.
2023-10-06
36 min
Thinking Out Loud
Let’s Talk Animal Rights, Part 1
Nathan Rittenhouse recently appeared on the Premier UnBelievable podcast to discuss the question, Do Animals have souls? His interlocutor in the discussion is Joyce D’Silva, Ambassador Emeritus for Compassion in World Farming. Click here to listen to the podcast and to read Nathan’s follow-up article. In this episode, we unpack Nathan’s conversation and we press into why the question of animal rights is so prevalent right now.
2023-10-03
39 min
Thinking Out Loud
Idealism and Harsh Realities
Nathan Rittenhouse argues that we live in a moment when our idealism is outpacing our capabilities. In this episode, we explore the tension of wanting to improve the world while facing our human limitations.
2023-09-29
35 min
Thinking Out Loud
Critical Theory in the Classroom
Cameron recently delivered a series of faculty lectures on Critical Theory to a classical school in Oklahoma. In this episode, Nathan grills Cameron on the subject.
2023-08-08
43 min
Thinking Out Loud
An Interview with Dr. Andy Bannister
The western world is becoming more and more of a melting pot and conversations about religious differences are going to be unavoidable. In this episode, Nathan Rittenhouse interviews Dr. Andy Bannister about how we talk to our children about Islam.
2023-07-14
45 min
Thinking Out Loud
Who We Are, Where We Hope to Go
“Are we a podcast that does ministry, or are we a ministry that does a podcast?” That was Nathan Rittenhouse’s question as we resigned from our former jobs and stepped out in faith to found Thinking Out Loud. It’s been nearly two years since that day, so we thought we’d take this opportunity to provide an update on the current shape of our ministry and where we hope to go.
2023-03-07
38 min
Thinking Out Loud
Let’s Talk About Groundhog Day (the Day After Groundhog Day)
Harold Ramis’s accidental masterpiece, Groundhog Day, is a modern comedy classic. It’s also a morality play in which the central character learns the joys of virtue. That it manages to pull this all off without being preachy is a small miracle. The fact that both Nathan and Cameron like this movie is a full-blown miracle. Be sure to check out Jeff Reimer’s excellent essay on the film.
2023-02-03
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Should ChatGPT Write Your Sermons?
Nope, but you should definitely join us as we discuss more of the implications of this emerging technology. We try not to sound too grumpy. Nathan succeeds. Cameron gets an A for effort.
2023-01-29
34 min
Thinking Out Loud
Fifa and Theocracy
"Well, Cameron, every once in a while, an international sport runs into a theocracy." So begins Nathan Rittenhouse's opening to this episode, which explores the cultural tensions that have erupted at the Fifa 2022 World Cup in Qatar.
2022-11-29
37 min
Thinking Out Loud
The Appeal of "Celebrity Christianity"
Carl Lentz, the disgraced former Hillsong pastor, is in the news once again because of a black and white glamor shot of he and his wife that was posted to his Instagram page. Many are speculating that this signals a return to ministry. By many accounts an all-too-familiar story, Nathan Rittenhouse finds the whole celebrity charade deeply perplexing. In this episode, Cameron does his darndest to help Nathan make sense of the appeal of celebrity Christianity.
2022-10-14
49 min
Thinking Out Loud
Campus Ministry Today
Nathan Rittenhouse recently returned from a talk at the University of Virginia. Cameron took this as an opportunity to ask him all about the feel on campus these days, as well as the types of questions being asked. Surprisingly, the interest is deeply biblical, rather than topical.
2022-10-11
37 min
Thinking Out Loud
Amish Paradise?
As our cultural moment grows more embattled and contentious, many of us long for alternative forms of community. Perhaps this explains our largely romantic view of the Amish. From romance novels to daydreams of a “simpler form of life,” the notion that most of us could bring our consumerist individualism into the tight knit fold of an Amish community strains credibility. But what happens when communal practice clashes with the laws of the land? Tune in as Nathan and Cameron press into this question and try to settle once and for all why so many folks think Nathan is Amis...
2022-09-13
40 min
Thinking Out Loud
What I Learned at a “Satanic” Metal Concert
Cameron recently tagged along to a metal concert headlined by a band that flirts with satanic themes. But there's a reason the word "satanic" appears in scare quotes in the title. Is this a sincere conviction on the part of these musicians? Or is this a clever marketing strategy to scare parents and get the attention of their kids? And what does it say about our supposedly secular society that a band like this gets top billing? (And what band are we talking about? Listen to find out.) Here, Nathan and Cameron explore the strange and deeply spiritual terrain...
2022-09-09
48 min
Thinking Out Loud
Catholicism vs. Radical Individualism: Nancy Pelosi and Communion
The Catholic Archbishop of San Fransisco, Salvatore Cordileone, has formally denied communion to U.S. House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, "until such time as [she] [publicly] repudiate [her] advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance." It's a thoroughly conventional decision that one is tempted to say is little more than the Catholic church being the Catholic church. The fact that so many people are receiving it as an affront, however, points up how deeply entrenched our individualism really is. So, what do we do when our personal...
2022-05-31
30 min
Thinking Out Loud
Uvalde and the Practical Reality of Evil
Unspeakable crimes have a way of forcing us to confront some of the starkest aspects of human nature. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider Salvador Ramos's massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde Texas, an atrocity that claimed the lives of 19 children and 2 adults. What do these kinds of crimes say about our cultural moment and how can we as Christians offer hope in the face of such horror?
2022-05-27
34 min
Thinking Out Loud
Hope in the Face of Horrendous Abuse: A Response to the Southern Baptist Report
In the wake of the vile revelations from the report on the Southern Baptist Convention, many Christians are enraged, disoriented, and deeply confused. For some, childhood heroes and cherished stories have now been drastically reframed. What does Christian hope look like in the face of such heinous abuse? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron aim to explore this question.
2022-05-24
38 min
Thinking Out Loud
10 Reasons Why We Don't Like Top-Ten Lists
In this episode, two bookish nerds (Nathan and Cameron) who are bookish for a living think out loud about why neither one of them is comfortable giving a top-ten list of books that have shaped them. Come for the philosophical reasoning behind the hesitation, stay for the multitude of books that get recommended in the process.
2022-05-17
52 min
Thinking Out Loud
Food Shortages and the Demand for Convenience
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider the clash between our demand for convenience and the longterm consequences of the food shortages brought about by the war in Ukraine.
2022-05-13
37 min
Thinking Out Loud
"Deconstructing Evangelicalism": A Talk from Cameron McAllister
In this special episode, we're featuring Cameron McAllister's talk "Deconstructing Evangelicalism," which was delivered at The Branch Community Church in Chicago. Many thanks to the C.S. Lewis Institute for hosting the event and making it available.
2022-05-10
44 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is True Adventure Outdated?
"What does it mean to live in a time when most of our maps are filled in?" This question from Nathan Rittenhouse is occasioned by the discovery of the wreck of Ernest Shackleton's vessel, the Endurance. Researches recently located the ship on the Antarctic sea floor. Granted, arctic expeditions are largely a thing of the past, but what does it mean to go on an adventure in the age of GPS technology? Does our infatuation with safety sometimes rob us of vital experiences? Do we need danger? Do you need to listen to this episode? We think so! Buckle...
2022-05-06
41 min
Thinking Out Loud
Physician Assisted Suicide and the Price of Autonomy
Canada recently enacted Bill C-7, which greatly expands the eligibility of euthanasia to people suffering from any condition that "cannot be relieved under conditions that you consider reasonable." Talks are already in the works to make the option available to "mature minors." In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider some of the longterm consequences of the modern infatuation with radical freedom and autonomy, and consider how we as the church can respond. For those interested, here's a link to the article referenced.
2022-05-03
42 min
Thinking Out Loud
Social Media and Demons?
In our last episode, we discussed Jonathan Haidt's Atlantic piece in which he argues that social media has brought about "structural stupidity." But what if that's a bit dismissive and reductive? Alan Jacobs, another thinker we appreciate, makes the case that there may be something a bit more sinister at work behind the mechanisms that amplify our voices. Join Nathan and Cameron as they bring spiritual warfare to bear on the discussion of social media.
2022-04-26
40 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Social Media an Existential Threat?
A recent Atlantic article by social psychologist, Jonathan Haidt, argues that not only is social media making us stupider, it's also threatening to tear our society apart. These are bold claims, but Haidt's evidence is compelling and worthy of a close look. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron wrestle with the article and consider its broader implications.
2022-04-22
43 min
Thinking Out Loud
Disney and Discernment
Join Nathan and Cameron for a discussion of the tension between Disney and Florida over the so-called "Don't Say Gay Bill." The Thinking Out Loud crew open up about some of their longstanding reservations about Disney, as well as the challenge of prioritizing discernment over legalism in our cultural engagement.
2022-04-19
33 min
Thinking Out Loud
Faithfulness in a Fickle Culture
Nathan and Cameron talk with Stuart McAllister about how to stay faithful in a culture filled with distractions and seduction.
2022-04-16
44 min
Thinking Out Loud
The God of Surprises: Stuart McAllister's Palm Sunday Sermon
In this special episode, we're sharing Stuart McAllister's Palm Sunday Sermon from last Sunday, April 10, 2022. It's a powerful exposition of the significance of Christ's triumphal entry in Jerusalem, as well as a challenge to each of us to answer Jesus's question to his disciples, "Who do you say that I am?" If you're interested in booking any of the Thinking Out Loud speakers, you can do so here.
2022-04-12
45 min
Thinking Out Loud
Magic Mushrooms
You read that title correctly. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the growing popularity (and likely legalization) of psychedelic mushrooms. It should be a real trip.
2022-04-07
43 min
Thinking Out Loud
Let's Talk About Marxism: A Conversation with Stuart McAllister
Want to hear an exploration of Marxism that's historically and philosophically informed? Tired of superficial hot takes on the issue? We thought you might be. That's why we sat down with Stuart McAllister for a conversation about Marxism. Our goal was to take account of its history, as well as its current resurgence in our culture. A note to listeners interested in the list of books we promised: We're in the process of compiling. Look for it here in the show notes in the next few days.
2022-03-25
46 min
Thinking Out Loud
Is Putin Fighting a Holy War?
As the war in Ukraine continues to escalate, the conversation is beginning to move beyond mere geopolitical tactics to take in spiritual factors. The relationship between Putin and Patriarch Kirill of Moscow, for instance, is receiving more and more scrutiny. Join Nathan and Cameron as they consider the spiritual dimensions of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Here's a link to the Rowan Williams's article that we reference.
2022-03-22
41 min
Thinking Out Loud
Moral Failure at Christianity Today and the Critical Need for Virtue
Christianity Today, "the flagship Evangelical publication," recently revealed that a pattern of sexual harassment on the part of two of its male leaders went unchallenged for years. Given the critical role that CT has played in holding the church accountable in recent years, this story unfolds with a good deal of sad irony. Here, Nathan and Cameron consider this latest story of moral failure and explore what it means for Christian men and women to recover a vision for cultivating virtue.
2022-03-19
44 min
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Why Do You Watch the News?
Sensationalism in the news is threatening the very foundations of democracy! See what we did there? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore some of the consequences of viewing the news as entertainment and consider how we might beyond this habit.
2022-03-11
34 min
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Skyrocketing Gas Prices, Economic Fears, and the Goodness of God
Did you take a picture of yourself at the pump? Be honest. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore what happens when our consumer habits crash into real time historical events. As promised, here's a link to Professor John Mearsheimer's Ukraine lecture, which continues to garner millions of new views each week.
2022-03-08
43 min
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The Ukraine Crisis: A Discussion with Stuart McAllister
In the wake of Putin's attack on Ukraine and the rapidly escalating warfare in that region, we sat down for a discussion with Stuart McAllister to explore the complex history between these two nations, as well as their ongoing sources of conflict. It's a sobering conversation but one that we hope will be helpful to you as you seek to understand this new war and its potential global implications. Stuart McAllister is the Director of Ministry Projects at Reflections Ministries, as well as the Director of Ministry at Thinking Out Loud. He also holds the job title o...
2022-03-04
1h 00
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Race, America, and Christian Hope: A Discussion with Brandon Cleaver
As Black History Month reaches its 2022 conclusion, Nathan and Cameron are joined by their friend, Brandon Cleaver, for a discussion of what the holiday has meant to him as a black man growing up in the Detroit area. The Thinking Out Loud crew are especially interested in how Brandon sees the Christian's hope informing the challenge our nation's ongoing racism. Brandon is the Program Director for Matthew 5:9 Fellowship, "a network of Christian leaders shepherding their communities to live out the Gospel and place their identity in Jesus Christ above partisanship and societal divisions." He is also a r...
2022-02-28
59 min
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Transgender Swimmers and the Question of Human Purpose
Lia Thomas, a transgender woman currently dominating the "Ivy 2022 Championship," is shining a spotlight on many of the issues surrounding transgender athletes. In this case, given the remaining masculine biological features, doesn't this particular athlete have an unfair advantage? Or is this really about "transphobia" and "the policing of women's bodies," as some activists maintain? The radical individualism that animates American culture only complicates these questions. Join Nathan and Cameron as they explore what a Christian posture and response might look like. For those of you participating in our theology course giveaway, here's a link to Dr. S...
2022-02-25
41 min
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Does Sociology Belong in the Pulpit?
"Deconstruction," critical theory, Neo-Marxism--these complex and highly contentious subjects continue to dominate many conversations in the church. But do they constitute a distraction? Isn't church the place for the Gospel alone? In short, what hath Jerusalem to do with sociology (or France)? Tune in to hear Nathan and Cameron tackle these questions.
2022-02-22
43 min
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The Trouble with Eileen Gu
Sure, Olympic skier Eileen Gu's American sensibilities complicate her career as a Chinese athlete, but the real trouble for the Thinking Out Loud crew is talking about sports in general. In true Nathan and Cameron fashion, the subject leads into all sorts of theological territory. Tune in if you want to hear how we get from Gu's "I'm just a girl living my best life" all the way to Ralph Waldo Emerson's musings on the sacredness of individualism.
2022-02-19
34 min
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David Brooks, "Evangelical Dissenters," and the Hope of Renewal
The title of New York Times columnist, David Brooks's, latest piece speaks for itself: "The Dissenters Trying to Save Evangelicalism from Itself." Some found it compelling. Some found it irksome. Very few had a neutral response. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron weigh in on the state of the church in North America, drawing on some of their sobering experiences as former speakers for Ravi Zacharias International Ministries. For those interested, here's the link to the uncomfortable interview Cameron mentions at the beginning. And here's the link to Nathan Rittenhouse's talk on environmental justice.
2022-02-11
38 min
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Stephen Colbert the Evangelist?
When pop star Dua Lipa asked Stephen Colbert about the role of faith in his life and work, the talk show host gave a surprisingly earnest answer. The clip quickly went viral and sparked some constructive discussions. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron apologize for not knowing who Dua Lipa is, and go on to consider the substance of Colbert's response, as well as its implications for Christian public witness in our cultural moment.
2022-02-09
36 min
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Of Tarot Cards and Modern Superstition
Recent years have seen a dramatic uptick in fascination with the occult. But is this really so strange? Nathan and Cameron don’t think so. Tune in and see what you think.
2022-02-05
40 min
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Giving Joe Rogan His Due
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider Joe Rogan's response to the Spotify controversy.
2022-02-01
42 min
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Neil Young, Joe Rogan, and #cancelspotify
Is Neil Young "so woke he canceled himself," or is he standing on moral principle? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the developing story of one musician's opposition to the streaming giant.
2022-01-28
28 min
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Episode 98: Is physical church outdated?
Has the pandemic forced us to recognize that physical church is now outdated? Is the pivot to online services the dawn of a new era, rather than a temporary precaution? Nathan and Cameron explore these issues in this episode and do their darndest to not get too grumpy. We’ll let you be the judge of whether they succeed…
2022-01-25
29 min
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Episode 97: Who can afford to not care about genocide?
Golden State Warriors co-owner Chamath Palihapitiya recently sparked controversy when he casually remarked “nobody cares about the Uyghurs” on his podcast. Given his wealth and position, it’s worth asking whether such a statement will even make a tangible difference in his life. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron press into the complex question of how wealth often dictates the rules of free speech.
2022-01-21
38 min
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Episode 96: The Tonga Volcano and Human Vulnerability
What does a volcano eruption have to do with Christianity? Tune in to hear Nathan and Cameron explore the Tonga eruption, its ongoing devastation, and how our Christian convictions can help us to frame the situation.
2022-01-18
38 min
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Episode 95: January 6th and the State of the Nation
Nathan and Cameron discuss the storming of the capital and consider some of the severe responses to its aftermath.
2022-01-14
39 min
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Episode 94: The Christian Obsession with Celebrity
Do we need “Christian” celebrities to validate the credibility of the church? Join Nathan and Cameron as they explore this question.
2022-01-11
35 min
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Episode 93: The Webb Telescope and Cosmic Wonder
Space, the final frontier: these are the voyages of Nathan and Cameron as they think out loud about the unprecedented capabilities of the James Webb telescope.
2022-01-07
39 min
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Episode 92: Three Cheers for New Year’s Resolutions
Nathan and Cameron explore the theological underpinnings of the rituals that inevitably structure our lives, and consider how our resolutions (or lack thereof) influence that dynamic.
2022-01-04
45 min
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Episode 91: Why We Need the Humanities
Inspired by an editorial by Purdue engineering professor, Avi Kak, arguing for the value of the humanities, Nathan and Cameron do their best to persuade you that the humanities equip us for more than flipping burgers.
2021-12-31
43 min
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Episode 90: Sensationalism Is Old News
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the longstanding tradition of media sensationalism and consider why it’s often mistaken for a new phenomenon.
2021-12-28
34 min
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Episode 89: The Moral Foundation of Advent
Thought Nathan and Cameron couldn’t overanalyze Advent? Think again. Merry Christmas from the Thinking Out Loud crew!
2021-12-24
33 min
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Episode 88: What’s So Great About Christmas Hymns?
In this episode, Nathan and Cameron try to explore the unique staying power of Christmas hymns without ruining it in the process.
2021-12-21
31 min
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Episode 87: Tornadoes, Devastation, and the Demand for Explanations
In the wake of the devastation wrought by tornadoes in Kentucky and portions of the Midwest, many of us are struggling to make sense of these events. Nathan and Cameron explore the nature of our response.
2021-12-17
35 min
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Episode 86: What’s an Evangelical?
Nathan and Cameron explore the vexed topic of evangelicalism through the lens of Daniel Silliman’s new book, Reading Evangelicals.
2021-12-14
45 min
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Episode 85: Michigan School Shooting and Moral Responsibility
In the wake of this latest school shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, Nathan and Cameron explore the tangled question of moral responsibility.
2021-12-10
40 min
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Episode 84: Evil in the Age of Google
Though Google remains committed to its "Don't be evil" motto, evil is surprisingly difficult to define without God. Nathan and Cameron consider what evil means in the age of Google.
2021-12-07
43 min
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Episode 83: Alec Baldwin and Our Lethal Entertainment Habits
Nathan and Cameron discuss the broader implications of the tragic events that unfolded on the set of Rust.
2021-12-03
38 min
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Episode 82: Why Are Christians Deconstructing Their Faith?
Nathan and Cameron continue their discussion of deconstruction by exploring some of the deeper motivations behind the movement.
2021-11-30
46 min
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Episode 81: Christian Deconstruction?
What does it mean to “deconstruct” one’s faith? Nathan and Cameron discuss the matter.
2021-11-25
47 min
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Episode 80: Reckoning with Kyle Rittenhouse
Nathan and Cameron discuss Kyle Rittenhouse and the events that led up to his trial.
2021-11-19
47 min
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Episode 79: Should We Cancel Dave Chappelle?
Nathan and Cameron discuss the swelling controversy surrounding Dave Chappelle’s latest comedy special and consider some of its broader implications.
2021-11-17
40 min
Thinking Out Loud
Episode 78: Reckoning with the Haiti Kidnapping
Nathan and Cameron press into the tension between modern assumptions about safety and convenience and missionary work in developing nations.
2021-11-08
37 min
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Episode 77: Vaccine Mandates and Risk
Nathan and Cameron explore how a Christian understanding of risk frames the discussion on vaccine mandates.
2021-11-02
57 min
Thinking Out Loud
Episode 76: Of Halloween and Horror Movies
On the occasion of Halloween, Nathan and Cameron take a look at the theological implications of horror movies. They are joined by Dr. Philip Tallon, who is Dean of the School of Christian Thought at Houston Baptist University, as well as Cameron’s old professor.
2021-10-31
1h 01
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Episode 75: What the Texas Abortion Ban Says About Us
Nathan and Cameron discuss the controversial Texas “Heartbeat Bill” and consider some of its broader implications for Christians who want to pursue justice without compromising their convictions.
2021-10-26
57 min
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Episode 74: Where We’ve Been, Where We’re Going
After nearly 6 months away, Nathan and Cameron return to the Thinking Out Loud podcast to discuss the circumstances of their departures from Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, as well as the new direction of the show.
2021-10-19
38 min