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This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Guardians of Growth: Katie Vickery on Reinvention, Leadership & Building a Meaningful Legal Career
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga talks with Katie Vickery, Partner and Head of Regulatory at Osborne Clarke, to explore what it takes to build a lasting and fulfilling legal career. From the early jolt of the Enron collapse to becoming a leader in product regulation and sustainability law, Katie shares how reinvention, mentorship, and curiosity shaped her 24+ year journey in the profession.Listeners will learn how to spot emerging client needs, why building and handing off practices is an act of leadership, and how personal and professional alignment creates long-term career satisfaction...
2025-05-30
43 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Navigating Legal Innovation: Mbula Nzuki’s Journey from Law to Fintech and Beyond
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Mbula Nzuki, an inspiring lawyer, entrepreneur, and co-founder of a fintech company, to discuss her remarkable journey from a traditional legal career to leading a tech-driven law firm and fintech venture. Mbula shares insights on overcoming challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic, her passion for financial inclusion, and how embracing flexibility has driven her success. Discover how Mbula’s multidisciplinary approach and adaptability are reshaping the perception of legal practice in Kenya and beyond.Meet Our Guest:Mbula Nzuki is a mu...
2025-05-22
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Designing the Workday: Drew Amoroso on Agency, Intention, and the Future of Legal Coaching
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Drew Amoroso — lawyer, entrepreneur, and founder of DueCourse — to talk about creating a better workday for lawyers. Drew shares his journey from Big Law associate to coaching thousands of lawyers through mindset, routines, and professional identity shifts. Along the way, he unpacks what’s broken about traditional legal culture, how coaching at scale is changing the game, and why intentionality might be the most important legal skill of the future. From launching a solo fitness law firm to building the industry’s first AI coach, D...
2025-05-16
56 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Billing to Building: Paul Sams on Leading Law Firms with Culture, Courage, and a Lego Avatar
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga chats with Paul Sams, Managing Partner of Dutton Gregory Solicitors, about his unconventional path from biller to builder — and how leadership in law firms is evolving. Paul brings his trademark wit and authenticity to a wide-ranging conversation on firm culture, intergenerational leadership, communication, AI, and yes — even his famous Lego LinkedIn avatar. With refreshing candor, Paul shares the personal growth, mindset shifts, and management lessons that come with guiding a modern legal organization through change, complexity, and opportunity.Meet Paul Sams: Paul decided he w...
2025-05-12
45 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Rewriting the Rules: Owen McGrann on Packaging Law, Embracing Identity, and Building with Purpose
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Owen McGrann — lawyer, founder, writer, and creative legal thinker — to explore how legal practice can be rebuilt from the inside out. Owen shares his deeply personal journey from burnout in Big Law and a life-threatening medical crisis to launching a solo firm driven by flat fees, client alignment, and productized legal services. Together, they unpack the intersection of philosophy, pricing, community, and identity — and why sometimes the most powerful shift in law isn’t external innovation, but internal transformation.Meet Our Guest: Owen McG...
2025-05-05
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Breaking Free: Gary Miles on Lawyer Wellness, Perfectionism, and Redefining Success
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Gary Miles — former trial lawyer turned wellness coach — to explore the mind traps that hold legal professionals back. Drawing on 40+ years of experience and a powerful personal transformation, Gary opens up about the silent challenges many lawyers face, including perfectionism, isolation, and burnout. From his journey into sobriety to launching a podcast at 66, Gary’s story is a testament to resilience, reinvention, and the importance of redefining success on your own terms. He also shares practical insights on coaching, mindset shifts, and building a legal career that’s...
2025-04-26
32 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Building Belonging: Rachel Clar on Cohorts, Connection & Redefining Success in Law
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Rachel Clar, founder of Interconnected Us, to explore how women in Big Law are transforming their careers through the power of community. Rachel shares her personal journey—leaving law, building a career in real estate, discovering peer learning, and ultimately returning to law to create space for women lawyers to connect, collaborate, and thrive.Rooted in a philosophy of non-binary thinking and spiritual leadership, Rachel’s work is redefining professional growth—not through competition, but through connection. From early struggles with belonging to launching cohort...
2025-04-22
42 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Redefining the Legal Career: Karina DuQuesne on Entrepreneurship, Innovation & Building Legal Tech
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga speaks with Karina DuQuesne—lawyer, investor, operator, and now legal tech founder—about her extraordinary career journey from Goldman Sachs to Big Law, and ultimately to launching a legal tech startup designed to empower underserved entrepreneurs. Karina opens up about the challenges of navigating motherhood in a demanding legal career, the mindset shift from employee to founder, and why she believes general counsel roles are on a natural trajectory toward CEO. Her story is an inspiring blueprint for redefining success in the modern legal landscape.Gues...
2025-04-15
43 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Purpose, Burnout, and the Business of Being Well: Hannah Beko on Law, Life, and Leading with Authenticity
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Hannah Beko — lawyer, coach, author, and mental health advocate — to explore her journey from commercial real estate partner to a purpose-driven legal entrepreneur. Hannah shares how a life-altering moment with her father’s health catalyzed her pivot toward coaching, wellness, and redefining success in law. With honesty and warmth, she unpacks the challenges of running multiple businesses, confronting imposter syndrome, and building a legal life anchored in authenticity. This episode is a powerful look at the intersection of legal leadership, resilience, and humanity.Gues...
2025-04-08
36 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Engineering to Law: Shane Percival’s Journey to Leading a Modern IP Firm
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Shane Percival — a lawyer, engineer, and partner at NOD Law. Shane shares his unique journey from an engineering career during the dot-com era to becoming a leader in intellectual property law. They explore how his technical background and project management skills influenced his legal practice, his path from associate to partner, and the development of a dynamic, hybrid work culture. Shane also discusses the future of boutique law firms, the integration of AI, and how building meaningful client relationships remains central to success....
2025-03-31
43 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Rethinking the Practice: Gwen Griggs on Building a Meaningful, Modern Legal Life
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Gwen Griggs — lawyer, co-founder, entrepreneur, consultant , and passionate advocate for reinventing the legal profession. Gwen shares her deeply personal and professional journey from the early spark of inspiration rooted in justice to building a law firm and consultancy grounded in purpose, innovation, and value. She reflects on leaving behind the billable hour, embracing design thinking, and creating systems that center client experience, well-being, and impact. This conversation is a masterclass in courageously aligning professional life with personal values — and designing legal services that truly matter.
2025-03-26
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Litigation to Innovation: Tess Blair’s Journey in Law, Leadership, and Art
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Tess Blair, former litigation and eDiscovery pioneer at Morgan Lewis, to discuss her journey of building a groundbreaking legal practice and transitioning into a thriving post-retirement career as an artist. From the early challenges of navigating technology in the legal field to leading a transformative practice, Tess reflects on the evolution of law, the creative parallels between legal innovation and art, and the importance of knowing when to pivot. This episode is a testament to the power of reinvention, resilience, and embracing creativity in all its...
2025-03-19
46 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Power of Referrals in a Digital World: A Conversation with Robert Flint on Building Meaningful Connections
In this insightful episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Robert Flint, a lawyer, entrepreneur, and now author of Working with Strangers: Building Your Career and Growing Your Business Through Referrals. They discuss the evolving nature of professional networking in an AI-driven world, the overlooked power of referrals in business development, and the role of technology as a facilitator rather than a replacement for human connection. Robert shares his personal journey—starting in law, navigating political upheaval, and ultimately founding Adviserly, a global referral network for boutique law firms. Through this engaging conversation, listeners gain ac...
2025-03-12
48 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Rewriting the Legal Life Narrative: Lora Cheadle on Overcoming Burnout
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga talks with lawyer-turned-coach and TEDx speaker Lora Cheadle about overcoming burnout and redefining success in the legal industry. Lora shares her journey through career transitions, the pressures of law, and the importance of setting realistic expectations. Together, they explore strategies for finding balance, maintaining well-being, and building a fulfilling legal career.Guest Bio: Lora Cheadle, JD, CHt, is a leadership wellness coach, TEDx speaker, and bestselling author specializing in burnout and betrayal recovery. As a former attorney who walked away from a high-stress...
2025-03-04
40 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Law to Legal Tech: Patricia Gannon’s Trailblazing Journey
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga interviews Patricia Gannon, an accomplished lawyer, founder, and digital nomad, as she shares her transformative journey from establishing a pioneering law firm in the Balkans to launching Platform 9, a groundbreaking social audio app for lawyers. Patricia opens up about navigating personal and professional transitions, the challenges of entering the legal tech space, and her mission to build global legal communities. This episode is a compelling look at resilience, innovation, and redefining what it means to thrive in the legal profession.Guest Bio: Patricia...
2025-02-25
51 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Courtrooms to Coaching: Elise Holtzman’s Mission to Empower Lawyers
In this inspiring episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga speaks with Elise Holtzman, founder of The Lawyer's Edge and a pioneer in coaching and consulting for legal professionals. Elise shares her journey from being a big law attorney to creating a business that empowers lawyers to thrive. She discusses the challenges of transitioning careers, the importance of building meaningful relationships, and her passion for helping others achieve their full potential. Packed with actionable insights, this episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking growth in their legal career.About Our GuestElise...
2025-02-19
49 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Journey Through ESG: From Legal Practice to Purpose-Driven Leadership with Christine Uri
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Christine Uri, a seasoned legal professional turned ESG consultant, to explore her transformative career journey. Christine shares her transition from private practice to in-house roles, the challenges and growth of embracing ESG responsibilities, and the courage it took to launch her own consultancy. This conversation delves into the evolution of legal leadership, the integration of sustainability in business, and valuable insights for navigating career pivots with purpose.Guest Bio:Christine is an experienced legal executive committed to making companies more profitable, sustainable, and...
2025-02-12
43 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Big Law to Building Dreams: Joel Ankney’s Legal Journey
In this engaging episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga connects with Joel Ankney, a seasoned attorney, author, and solo practitioner. Joel shares his inspiring story of transitioning from big law to founding his own practice, the pivotal moments and mentors that shaped his path, and the lessons learned from over two decades of legal and entrepreneurial experience. A deep dive into building a career aligned with personal values, this episode is filled with insights for those looking to carve their unique path in the legal field.Guest Bio:Joel is a business lawyer...
2025-02-04
44 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Finding Your Voice in Legal Marketing: A Chat with Nancy Myrland
In this engaging episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Nancy Myrland, a renowned social media consultant and legal marketing expert. Together, they explore the evolving role of podcasting in the legal profession, the power of authentic connection in a digital age, and Nancy’s inspiring journey from sales to becoming a Hall of Fame legal marketer. Through anecdotes, reflections, and actionable advice, Nancy shares how embracing change, trusting your unique perspective, and building genuine relationships can transform careers and industries alike. This conversation is a testament to the impact of personal growth and community in...
2025-01-28
53 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Navigating New Paths: Jonathan Hawkins on Building Law Firm GC and Evolving Legal Practices
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga chats with Jonathan Hawkins, founder of Law Firm GC, about his journey from traditional law practice to leading innovative solutions for law firms. Jonathan shares his experiences navigating career crossroads, the trials of building a niche practice, and the evolution of legal operations. From leveraging LinkedIn to adopting entrepreneurial mindsets, this conversation delves into the skills, challenges, and strategies required to thrive in modern legal landscapes.Bio:Jonathan Hawkins is the Founder of Law Firm GC and Host of Founding Partner Podcast. He...
2025-01-21
50 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Partners Who Lean In: EJ Stern and Katherine Wilson of Fractional Law Firm CMO
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with EJ Stern and Katherine Wilson, co-founders of Fractional Law Firm CMO, to explore their journey of partnership and innovation. From their early days in traditional legal marketing roles to building a business that serves small and mid-sized law firms, EJ and Katherine share how they leaned into collaboration, creativity, and courage. Their conversation covers the personal and professional turning points that shaped their careers, the challenges of launching a business, and their shared vision for delivering high-impact marketing solutions. This inspiring episode showcases the power of...
2025-01-14
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Lawyer to Legal Tech CRO and Beyond: Alex Su's Journey
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga interviews Alex Su, Chief Revenue Officer at Latitude, about his unconventional journey from practicing lawyer to thriving in the legal tech world. Alex candidly shares his experiences, from clerking and working at prestigious law firms to navigating setbacks in small firms and ultimately discovering his passion for sales, marketing, and technology. He delves into the transformative power of community, social media, and embracing one's unique strengths in building a career outside traditional legal roles. The conversation also highlights emerging opportunities in the legal industry, fueled by innovation and shifting professional...
2025-01-10
43 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Lawyer to Legal Tech CRO and Beyond: Alex Su's Journey
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga interviews Alex Su, Chief Revenue Officer at Latitude, about his unconventional journey from practicing lawyer to thriving in the legal tech world. Alex candidly shares his experiences, from clerking and working at prestigious law firms to navigating setbacks in small firms and ultimately discovering his passion for sales, marketing, and technology. He delves into the transformative power of community, social media, and embracing one's unique strengths in building a career outside traditional legal roles. The conversation also highlights emerging opportunities in the legal industry, fueled by innovation and shifting professional...
2025-01-07
26 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Litigation to Transformation: David Sazant's Journey
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with David Sazant, a former litigator turned therapist and founder of Pursuit Counseling and Therapy. The conversation explores David’s unique journey from the courtroom to counseling, delving into how his legal background shapes his therapeutic practice. Together, they discuss the emotional toll of legal careers, the importance of mental health in the profession, and practical insights for navigating career transitions with purpose and resilience.About David:David is a former litigator turned men’s therapist. After coming to terms with his own real...
2024-12-16
41 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Jen Leonard: A Journey Through Innovation, AI, and Education
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga engages with Jen Leonard, founder of Creative Lawyers and former Chief Innovation Officer at Penn Carey Law. The conversation spans Jen's dynamic career journey, from her roots as a litigator to her current role driving change in the legal profession through innovation and education. Jen shares insights on the transformative potential of generative AI, the importance of diverse professional networks, and how design thinking can reshape the future of legal services. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, creativity, and embracing change in an evolving industry.
2024-12-11
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Redefining Legal Success: Elizabeth Kennedy on Collaboration, Innovation, and Client Focus
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Elizabeth Kennedy, Principal at New Edge BD, to explore her remarkable journey in the legal industry. From her early days at Jaffe Associates to leading innovative business development strategies at top firms like Weil Gotshal and Mayer Brown, Elizabeth shares insights on cross-practice collaboration, lateral integration, and client-focused growth. With reflections on the evolution of legal marketing and the challenges of aligning multidisciplinary teams, this conversation unveils practical strategies for adapting to an ever-changing legal environment while driving client success.Meet Our Guest:
2024-12-04
47 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Empowering Lawyers: Carolyn Elefant on Innovating Solo Practice and Legal Tech
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga talks with Carolyn Elefant, founder of MyShingle.com, about her diverse career in law, from energy regulatory work to pioneering solo practice and AI integration. Carolyn shares insights from her 30+ years of experience, discussing the evolution of solo law practice, the impact of technology on the legal profession, and her journey through entrepreneurship and advocacy. The conversation highlights Carolyn’s passion for innovation and empowering lawyers to embrace change.
2024-11-27
48 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Driving Digital Growth for Law Firms with Josh Anisfeld
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Josh Anisfeld, Chief Digital Officer at Baretz+Brunelle, to discuss the evolving role of digital strategies in law firms. Josh shares his journey from working in media and marketing to helping top law firms embrace digital growth. The conversation covers the impact of digital tools on client engagement, talent acquisition, and personalized content. Josh also offers insights on how law firms can adapt to the new legal economy by leveraging technology for competitive advantage.Josh's Bio:Josh Anisfeld is the Chief...
2024-11-20
51 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
AI in Business Development: Insights from Ben Paul on Client Relationships
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga speaks with Ben Paul, founder of BD Ladder, about the evolving role of AI in legal business development. They explore how AI can enhance client relationships, streamline content creation, and support personalized outreach. Ben shares practical examples of how AI serves as an enabler of efficiency, allowing lawyers to focus on authentic connections while still benefiting from AI’s data analysis and automation.Ben Paul has over 20 years of experience in sales and marketing, specializing in business development coaching, facilitation, and consultancy for professional services firms. He...
2024-11-12
36 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Building a Legacy: David Wood on Succession Planning for Law Firms
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with David Wood, former senior partner and founder of David Wood Consulting, to discuss the intricacies of succession planning in law firms. With over 25 years of experience, David shares insights on transitioning client relationships, preparing successors, and the cultural and compensation challenges that hinder successful succession. The episode delves into David's personal journey and the lessons learned from navigating multiple firm environments and his transition to consulting.About David:In the lead-up to his retirement, David Wood spent hundreds of hours migrating...
2024-11-05
46 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Redefining Law Firm Leadership: A Conversation with Moray McLaren
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Moray McLaren, a seasoned legal consultant and thought leader, to explore the evolving landscape of leadership in law firms. Over the course of 30 years, McLaren has observed significant shifts in client relationships, strategy implementation, and law firm cultures. They discuss the role of leadership in addressing profitability challenges, partner alignment, and the future of law firm structures. With insights from his extensive experience, McLaren offers a critical reflection on the behaviors holding law firms back and the growing need for empathetic, accountable leadership....
2024-10-30
37 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Leading Through Change: Matt Schwartz on Legal Finance and Innovation at DLA Piper
In this episode of "This Legal Life," host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Matt Schwartz, a partner and the US Finance practice group leader at DLA Piper. They discuss Matt's journey in the legal industry, his role at DLA Piper, and his perspectives on the evolving landscape of legal finance. The conversation provides valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities within the legal finance sector and highlights the importance of innovation and strategic thinking in legal practice.
2024-10-23
50 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Curiosity and Growth: Craig Budner's Legal Journey
In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Craig Budner, Global Strategic Growth Partner at K&L Gates, to discuss his 33-year journey in the legal industry. They explore the power of mentorship, the importance of curiosity, and the evolving role of lawyers in today’s dynamic legal landscape.About Craig:Craig W. Budner is the Global Strategic Growth Partner for K&L Gates LLP. In this role, he manages the global recruiting and integration functions for the firm. He also manages the firm’s Client Growth department, which prov...
2024-10-16
37 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Mastering Legal Business Development: Alistair Marshall on Strategies for Success
In this episode of "This Legal Life," Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, sits down with Alistair Marshall, a seasoned expert in business development and professional services. Alistair shares his journey from the consumer goods industry to becoming a leading consultant in the legal sector. They delve into the challenges and opportunities of business development within law firms, highlighting Alistair's new book, "Grow Your Professional Service Practice: A Practical Guide to BD." The conversation covers key topics such as the evolution of business development in the legal industry, the importance of establishing a BD culture, and...
2024-10-08
46 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Embracing Change: Julie Chodos on Innovation and Leadership in the Legal Sector
In this episode of "This Legal Life," host Ben Chiriboga welcomes Julie Chodos, Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer at Axinn, Veltrop & Harkrider, to explore her dynamic career journey from law to tech and back to law firms. Julie shares insights on transitioning from litigation to tech startups, where she thrived in sales and marketing, and later into strategic leadership roles in the legal industry. The conversation highlights the importance of innovation, collaboration, and embracing change within law firms. Julie emphasizes meeting people where they are, the significance of process building, and the value of continuously trying new things...
2024-10-03
41 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Power of Mindfulness in Legal Professionals: Insights from Tim Duffy
In this engaging episode of “This Legal Life,” host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Tim Duffy, an executive coach specializing in mindfulness, to explore how meditation can transform the high-stress environment of legal professionals. Tim shares his journey from a high-pressure career in the entertainment industry to becoming a mindfulness advocate, highlighting how meditation helped him manage stress, anxiety, and depression. The conversation delves into the science of mindfulness, its application as a "psycho-technology" for optimizing mental well-being, and its potential to enhance productivity and collaboration within legal teams. Tim emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and emotional intelligence, offering prac...
2024-09-23
48 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
From Litigator to Business Developer: Abisola Babatunde's Journey in Legal Innovation
In this episode of "This Legal Life," host Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, engages in a captivating discussion with Abisola Babatunde, Head of Business Development & Client Services at Jackson, Etti & Edu. Abisola shares her unique transition from a practicing litigator to a leader in business development, driven by her passion for client-centricity and innovation. Discover how her experiences have shaped her approach to legal business development, the innovative solutions her firm has implemented, and the emerging trends in the Nigerian legal market. Join us for an inspiring conversation that highlights the evolving landscape of legal services in...
2024-09-04
42 min
Calling Operator with Laura Nicol
Ep 29. Building Scar Tissue: Albert Patajo’s Path from Venture Capital to Fatherhood and Scaling Nexl Beyond Series A
In this episode, we explore Albert’s journey from growing up as an immigrant in Australia to becoming a startup leader and new dad to his daughter, Ava. Albert is a true fundraising nerd, and watching him level up on his way to Victory Road is a joy. We dive into how he built conviction to leave venture capital and step into a leadership role at Nexl—a vertical SaaS company that provides collaboration, relationship management, and CRM software to B2B law firms (think Pearson Hardman vibes!). Albert also shares lessons from his operator journey—from building scar tissue...
2024-08-20
41 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Unlocking Social Energy: Transformative Leadership in the Legal Sector with Nigel Russell and Lorna McDowell
In this insightful episode of "This Legal Life," host Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, engages in a profound conversation with Nigel Russell and Lorna McDowell, leaders at Xenergie. The discussion centers around the transformative concept of social energy and its impact on leadership and organizational change within the legal sector. Nigel and Lorna share their personal journeys, the convergence of their professional paths, and the systemic approach they champion to harness the power of human connection and collaboration. Dive into the nuances of social leadership, the evolving dynamics of workplace culture, and practical strategies for fostering meaningful...
2024-08-14
51 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Navigating Legal Evolution: Insights from David Harvey on Business Development and Collaboration
In this episode of "This Legal Life," host Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, sits down with David Harvey, Principal and Founder of Harvey Global Consulting. They delve into David's extensive career in legal marketing, exploring his transition from government to major law firms, his role in landmark cases like Apple vs. Samsung, and his entrepreneurial journey into consulting. David shares valuable insights on the evolution of legal marketing, the importance of industry specialization, and the power of networking and collaboration. Tune in to discover the pivotal moments and lessons learned from Dave's dynamic...
2024-07-31
1h 02
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Evolution of Law Firm Pricing with Varun Bahl
In this insightful episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga welcomes Varun Bahl, the Chief Financial Officer at Procopio, to discuss the ever-evolving landscape of law firm pricing.Join us as Varun shares his journey into the legal world, offering a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities he encountered along the way. Together, Ben and Varun delve into the current state of law firm pricing, uncovering the complexities and trends that define this critical aspect of the legal industry.
2024-07-18
37 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Overcoming Pushback: Culture and Tech in Law Firm BD with Suzanne Orfali
Join our host, Ben Chiriboga (Chief Growth Officer at Nexl) as he sits down for a in-depth discussion with Suzanne Orfali, Managing Director and Founder at Autem Consulting.In this episode, Suzanne shares her journey from studying law to transitioning into business development, highlighting differences in BD practices between Europe and the Middle East. She and Ben discusses the challenges of navigating law firm cultures, the importance of demonstrating results, and her work with firms in Europe and the GCC to transform their market perception. Suzanne also emphasizes the need for BD professionals to challenge the status...
2024-07-02
39 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Building Social Fitness: The Key to Thriving in Legal Business Development with Jennifer Forester
In this episode of, host Ben Chiriboga interviews Jennifer Forester, a business development coach with Gladstone Growth Strategies. Jennifer discusses her journey into the legal industry and the importance of "social fitness" for lawyers, emphasizing the need for intentional relationship-building to lead healthier professional lives. They explore the science behind social connections and how strong relationships help manage stress and improve well-being. Jennifer shares practical tips on auditing and nurturing personal and professional relationships and highlights the power of vulnerability and authenticity in client interactions. Tune in for actionable strategies to enhance your business development efforts through the lens...
2024-06-21
38 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Lessons in Communication and Self-Awareness with Tanya Riggan
In this episode, Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, sits down with Tanya Riggan, Director of Client Relations at Koley Jessen. They delve into the importance of self-assessment and understanding one's strengths and weaknesses within client relationships and business development.Throughout the conversation, Ben and Tanya touch on personal and professional growth, emphasizing the need to be strategic in business development. They discuss how effective communication and clarity in work can enhance client relationships.
2024-06-06
38 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Golden Rule: Building Personal Relationships with Deb Scaringi
In this episode host Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, sits down with Deb Scargini, Principal, Scaringi Marketing, to explore the Golden Rule: "Treat others as you would like to be treated." They discuss its essence across cultures, practical ways to implement it in daily life, and the challenges of living by this principle. Tune in for insights on building deeper, more respectful personal relationships and hear stories of how small acts of kindness and empathy can make a big difference.Connect with Deb:www.scaringimarketing.comhttps://www.linkedin...
2024-05-16
41 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Human-AI Partnership: Strengthening Legal Connections with Sophia Lagerholm
In this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga is joined by Sophia Lagerholm, Head of Digital & Innovation at Advokatfirman Delphi. Ben and Sophia delve into the transformative role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the legal sector, exploring its profound impact on professional relationships, interagency collaboration, and community engagement. Join them as they dissect three pivotal areas where AI is reshaping the landscape of legal practices.
2024-05-02
40 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Ripple Effect: How Your Actions Can Create Impact with John Eix
Launching new initiatives can be an exhilarating yet daunting journey. In this episode, our host, Ben Chirigoba, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, is joined by John Eix, Director at Crowe & Dunlevy, to explore the power of the ripple effect and how it emphasizes the impact of small actions and the importance of authenticity.Drawing inspiration from John's experience of starting a nonprofit, they uncover the profound influence that small conversations and actions can have in creating positive change. John's story is a testament to the fact that even the smallest gestures can significantly impact.Applying...
2024-04-11
31 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Unleashing Your Creative Potential: Techniques for Mastering Problem-Solving with Michelle Woodyear
On this episode of This Legal Life, host Ben Chiriboga sits down with Michelle Woodyear, Principal Consultant at Mount Insights. Michelle and Ben delve into the key pillars of creative problem-solving and their application across industries, including the legal field, to drive innovative solutions. They also explore practical techniques for overcoming creative blocks and highlight the importance of cultivating a creative mindset in problem-solving.
2024-03-13
38 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
Unlocking Growth: The Power of Client-Centric BD Strategies with Raya Blakeley-Glover
In this episode of This Legal Life, Raya Blakely Glover, Global Head of Business Development for Markets and Business Relationships at Bird & Bird, joins host Ben Chiriboga, Chief Growth Officer at Nexl, to dive into the power evolution of client-facing business development teams. Raya and Ben share how law firms' approach to business development has changed over the years, particularly in the US market. They discuss the characteristics of successful BD team members.
2024-02-14
38 min
This Legal Life: Lessons Learned from a Life in Legal
The Power of Collective Listening with Allan Carton + Paul Roberts
Get ready for an engaging episode of This Legal Life as we welcome Allan Carton (Lead Consultant, Carton & Co) and Paul Roberts (CEO & Co-Founder, MyCustomerLens). Allan and Paul join host Ben Chiriboga (Chief Growth Officer, Nexl) to dive into the transformative power of client listening.In this episode, Allan and Paul share their expertise and insights on why law firms need to shift from individual to collective listening. Discover practical strategies to kickstart your journey towards meaningful results, as they provide actionable advice on how to get started.Prepare to be inspired by real success...
2024-01-17
41 min