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Divorced PeopleNik + Nat Chat About the Kelly Sundberg InterviewIf you enjoyed the Kelly Sundberg interview, take a listen to our debrief episode where Nicole and I discuss our favorite and most meaningful parts of her story. I read her Goodbye, Sweet Girl memoir and Nicole read her latest book that just came out a couple weeks ago, The Answer is in the Wound. We discuss both books and what stood out to us the most in each story. Her story is truly a story of healing and inspiration and we hope you all feel that too when you listen!
Trigger Warning for all listeners, Kelly's...
2025-09-2041 minDivorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 7: Kelly Sundberg- What Healing Feels Like Years LaterThis episode is so important, we couldn't wait a month to post it. Kelly Sundberg is an author and survivor of Domestic Abuse. Her memoir, Goodbye, Sweet Girl, broke our hearts and her newest book, The Answer is in the Wound, sewed it back together.
Kelly is such a powerful writer and survivor. She tells her story of her marriage and divorce and doesn't hold back. We strongly suggest reading BOTH of her books. Her first one takes you on a journey of meeting her now ex-husband, dating, pregnancy, marriage, and ultimately ending with physical abuse and...
2025-09-191h 17Divorced PeopleNik & Nat Chat About the Laura Richards InterviewNik & Nat Chat about our latest episode, Laura Richards: Surviving & Thriving After Narcissistic Abuse. Make sure you listen to her interview first then come back here to take a deep dive into the episode and the lessons we learned!
2025-09-0550 minDivorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 6: Laura Richards- Surviving & Thriving After Narcissistic AbuseNarcissism. A buzz word that swarms social media and is the topic of many funny reels, but in reality, it's a form of abuse that so many people live with. Whether it's your partner, your parent, or another family member or loved one, it's very real and very painful.
In this episode, Nicole interviews Laura Richards. She is the host of That's Where I'm At Podcast, author of Married to a Nice Guy: Getting Over Narcissistic Abuse and There is Hope: 52 Keys to Healing After Divorce, and Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Expert. Laura has this incredible power inside...
2025-09-051h 45Divorced PeopleBonus Episode: Nik & Nat Chat About Collaborative DivorceWhat is Collaborative Divorce and how is it different from Litigation?
Nik & Nat spent some time chatting the other day about what Collaborative Law is and what it is they do all day at Two Families Law with their clients! Collaborative is a great option for people who want to have a more peaceful divorce, focus on their kids well-being, save money, and many other things.
2025-08-271h 12Divorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 5: Anna Howerton- Prince Charming is Great, but Not Always Your ForeverNot all divorce comes from a big trauma. Sometimes divorce comes from one or both spouses saying, “hey, I’m not happy/satisfied/fulfilled, and I want a divorce.” Anna’s story is just that. She thought her spouse was great and a good person, but their marriage didn’t fulfill her needs. They were two different people with different goals and love languages, and she needed to feel prioritized and loved.
She grew up as a Minister’s kid with a strong Christian value system that drove her in making all her decisions as a young adult and ult...
2025-08-051h 54Divorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 4: Lauren Stevens- Finding Her Inner Joy & WorthLauren Stevens is a single mom, business owner, survivor, and badass. She took a huge leap of faith and quit her job, divorced her abuser, sold her home, and put everything she had into building Joy Worthy Co. Joy Worthy is an event rental space and creative workshop where she hosts paint pours, cooking classes, charcuterie making, holiday themed events, birthday parties, and more! She wanted a place where people can come together to feel JOY and express their artistic side. In a world filled with so much hate, she wanted people to know there is still joy to...
2025-06-241h 37Divorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 3: Olivia Howell- Emotional Abuse, Enough is EnoughOlivia Dreizen Howell is the joyful and dynamic CEO of Fresh Starts Registry and the host of the Divorce Happens Podcast. She is a powerful single mother and a survivor of emotional and psychological violence during her marriage. In this episode, Olivia shares what it was like growing up as a child of divorce and into her own divorce story. She has a beautiful village supporting her and her two small children every step of the way. Olivia has turned the struggle and learning of her own divorce into the Fresh Starts Registry as a way for divorcing people...
2025-05-301h 20Divorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 2: Dr. Brian Mackey on What Your Kid Really Needs in DivorceIn my day job as a collaborative divorce lawyer, one of our most magical tools in our non-violent toolbox is a neutral, skillful, well-trained child psychologist. And Dr. Brian Mackey is the very best.
Brian is a divorced dad, a new-ish step-dad, the owner of a booming child psych practice in NC (3-C Family Services), and an expert in representing children's interests in divorce. He meets with the children of our divorcing families, gathers their needs and interests, analyzes their coping skills and patterns, and then lovingly shares this insight with the parents and lawyers -- all...
2025-04-231h 33Divorced PeopleSeason 2, Episode 1: Jen Berlingo and her Magical, Queer, Midlife EmergenceJen Berlingo is a coach, a writer, an artist, a mother, a trained therapist, and an intuitive being. Her story is so intricate and beautiful.
As she writes about in her book, Midlife Emergence, Jen reached her 40s, married to a man that she loved, and felt an undeniable call to end her marriage to further pursue her queer identity and love with a woman. The way that Jen is able to hold love and truth in so many ways that might seem to oppose one another is magical, and skilled.
Please enjoy this episode an...
2025-01-191h 16Divorced PeopleEpisode 8: Sarah Armstrong's Good Divorce and Really Centering the KidsSarah Armstrong has remained dedicated to having a "good divorce," for the sake of her daughter and her own peace. Her book, "The Mom's Guide to a Good Divorce" is a brilliantly organized and digestible handbook of the mantras, tips, and focus points that have helped her to co-parent her child to young adulthood with peace, stability, and care.
Please enjoy this final episode of the inaugural season of the Divorced People Podcast!! Look out for a bright new season starting soon.
2024-08-121h 16Divorced PeopleEp 7: Laura Phoenix: Healed and Healing, Somatic Experiencing in Divorce and ElsewhereLaura Phoenix is a treasured friend, practitioner, teacher, and role model for our host, NQ. This episode just begins to scratch the surface of the wisdom that Laura has gained through her abusive marriage, merciful divorce, healing journey, and through her current work as a somatic experiencing practitioner (and much more, of course).
Please enjoy the conversation, share widely, and reach out with questions, kvells, or the like!
2024-06-261h 26Divorced PeopleEp. 6 Rebecca Feinglos: Grief Guru and the Power of Feeling it AllRebecca Feinglos is bringing grief guidance to the masses. After losing her father and her marriage in the early days of COVID, Rebecca boldly took a year off of her work in NC government and policy, declaring the time her much-needed and deserved "grieve leave." And she's been thinking, writing, and sharing about the topic of grief ever since.
I have been hearing the word grief more and more each day, both in just mainstream conversation and in my divorce work. It's not a new experience, but it does seem to be having a new kind of...
2024-01-161h 23Divorced PeopleEp. 5 Kamara Thomas: Let It All Fall ApartKamara Thomas is a wise wise woman. A true artist and mother, tarot reader and playright, Virgo queen and now, a divorced person.
This episode is spiritual sustenance and food for your faith muscles. Faith in yourself, faith in a healing spirit, and faith in humanity. Kamara shares the story of knowing it was time to end her toxic marriage, working through a cancer diagnosis during her separation, and finding meaning in it all in very short order.
Please enjoy the generosity, love, tenderness, and wisdom of this episode.
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2023-08-181h 12Divorced PeopleEp. 4 Sam Falk and Rain Henderson: Take Care of Your SelfSamantha Falk is a divorced person, co-parent, and communications professional. Sam's divorce began about 7 years ago, with an acute incident you'll hear about in the episode. An instinct to protect her children from verbal violence led Sam to divorce, and it was not a short or easy process. These days Sam is still working to protect her teenage sons, enjoying a happy and new second marriage, and writing a book about divorce with her divorce lawyer, Rain Henderson.
Rain Henderson is in the process of winding down her 30 year career as a divorce litigator in Vancouver, BC...
2023-07-171h 36Divorced PeopleEp. 3 Heather Gray: When the Math Doesn’t Math AnymoreHeather Gray is about 6 years past her divorce. She has brilliant clarity on why it was the right call, how to do better in her second marriage, and the worst part of it all (not seeing her kids all the time). There was no wild infidelity, no dramatic addiction, none of the storylines we like to see as 'excuses' for divorce, but for Heather the math just didn't add up anymore for what the marriage took versus what it gave.
Heather has long been a divorce role model of mine, and I'm so humbled by her act o...
2023-05-281h 01Divorced PeopleEp. 2 Maggie Smith: Honesty, Integrity, and Endurance in the Messy MiddlePoet, and now memoirist, Maggie Smith has made the messy middle of her divorce into a stunning and captivating piece of art: You Could Make This Place Beautiful, her newest book. Maggie's marriage began its formal ending in 2018, and she has been processing the experience in so many ways, including some of my favorite writings on the topic. (I give her book "Keep Moving" to loads of new clients who are in the roughest starts of their journeys and her Modern Love column took my breath away in the earliest days of my own separation)
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2023-04-1756 minDivorced PeopleEp.1 Karen McMahon: Divorced Person, Divorce GuruKaren McMahon is the founder of Journey Beyond Divorce, a podcast and divorce coaching practice, and Karen has seen some sh%t! Karen is wise and kind and fun and funny and we had a blast sharing her long, incredibly difficult, and ultimately triumphant story.
Karen began her divorce process 20 years ago, and is just now sharing her story for the first time in such detail. We talk about what it looked like to raise her children from elementary school-age through their early adulthood, how to make the big big leap to leave, mantras for the times...
2023-04-131h 19Divorced PeopleIntro to Divorced PeopleWelcome to the Divorced People podcast. A story-telling podcast about what really happens in marriage and divorce, featuring the actual bravest and wisest people. Full episodes coming soon.
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