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Future ChristianHealthy Calling: Arianna Molloy on Burnout, Purpose, and Redefining WorkWhat if burnout isn’t the end of your calling—but an invitation to reimagine it? In this episode, Loren talks with Dr. Arianna Molloy, author of Healthy Calling: From Toxic Burnout to Sustainable Work, about how our deepest exhaustion can reveal what matters most. Drawing from her own journey and years of research, Arianna offers insight for leaders, pastors, and anyone navigating seasons of vocational confusion, overwork, or transition. together, they explore how calling can be both sacred and slippery, why shame is often tied to burnout, and how to reclaim your purpose without clinging to a title.
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Future ChristianTikTok Pastor: Bethany Peerbolte is Reimagining Church OnlineWhat happens when your most meaningful ministry happens through a smartphone screen? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Rev. Bethany Peerbolte—a self-described “TikTok Pastor” and the founding leader of Our Tapestry, a fully digital church community. With over 280,000 followers online, Bethany creates content that helps people declutter harmful theology, reimagine faith, and reconnect with a God of radical love—especially in places she calls “theological deserts.” She shares how a few youth group questions during the pandemic launched her into full-time digital ministry, why she prefers “decluttering” over “deconstruction,” and how online spaces can offer real spiritual care and community. F...2025-05-0659 min
Future ChristianClint Schnekloth on Why Progressive Churches MatterIs progressive Christianity losing its soul by abandoning church, worship, and leadership? In this episode, Loren talks with Pastor Clint Schneckloth to explore why faith communities, worship, and theological grounding still matter in progressive spaces. Clint pushes back against the tendency to dismiss church as irrelevant or harmful, offering a vision for how ethical leadership, communal worship, and rooted faith can empower justice work rather than distract from it. He also introduces place-sharing as a model for mission and evangelism, showing how churches can engage their neighbors without compromising progressive values—or their faith commitments.
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Future ChristianMartha & Loren Talk Christian Leadership Across the US-Canada borderIn this episode of the Future Christian podcast, hosts Martha and Loren engage in a personal check-in, discussing Loren's vocational transitions and the challenges of navigating ministry outside traditional roles. They then delve into the current state of Canada-US relations, exploring the emotional and economic implications of a perceived trade war. The conversation highlights the cultural identity of Canadians and the growing sense of national pride amidst external pressures, emphasizing the importance of recognizing diverse forms of ministry and leadership in a changing landscape. In this conversation, Martha and Loren explore the role of progressive Christianity in addressing contemporary...2025-04-2257 min
Chasing SundayKeith Hughes talks about the 4 Breaths of Life with God!We're sitting down with Keith Hughes to talk about his new book, "4 Breaths: Catch Your Breath, Find Your Life With These 4 Psychological & Biblical Principles"Keith's spent 35 years as a Christian mental health clinician, and he's identified four key principles that can either drain us or give us life. You know those moments when life just knocks the wind out of you? Keith's got some practical wisdom on how to catch your breath again.We'll chat about finding new perspectives when you're stuck, the real impact of forgiveness (and what happens when we don't forgive), what...2025-04-141h 00
Future ChristianRita Nakashima Brock and the Role of Church in Troubled TimesWhat if the church was never meant to be a waiting room for heaven—but a community that builds paradise now? Recorded live at Phillips Seminary during the 2025 Remind & Renew Conference, Loren Richmond Jr. sits down with Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock to reflect on the decline of religious institutions, the collapse of reliable media, and how early Christian communities cultivated paradise on earth—not just in theory, but through shared meals, practices, and mutual care. Drawing on her groundbreaking book Saving Paradise, Brock calls for a return to rituals that ground us in community, memory, and moral accountability.
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Future ChristianKyle Norman on Finding God when Faith Feels HardIn this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Martha Tatarnic talks with Kyle Norman about his latest book, Alive, Loved, and Free, which explores what it means to hold on to faith in the face of spiritual discouragement, suffering, and doubt. Drawing from his own experience as a priest and caregiver during his wife’s cancer treatment, Kyle shares how this painful journey reshaped his understanding of ministry, prayer, and God’s presence. Together, they discuss Kyle’s journey in ministry and his role as Dean in the Anglican Church of Canada, the power of the Daily Office and morning prayer...2025-03-2559 min
Future ChristianChurch Decline, Evangelism, and Renewal: A Conversation with Ben CrosbyIn this episode, Martha Tatarnic talks with Rev. Ben Crosby to explore the state of the mainline church, the challenges of evangelism, and the role of discipleship in church renewal. Ben shares his reflections on church growth, social justice, and spiritual formation. Their conversation delves into the decline of the Anglican Church of Canada, the significance of church attendance numbers for evangelism, and the tension between progressive theology and traditional discipleship. They also discuss overcoming the reluctance to talk about evangelism in mainline circles, the transformative role of the Daily Office in spiritual life, and practical steps for revitalizing...2025-03-181h 02
Future ChristianTricia Lyons on Why Churches Should Be More ExclusiveDo churches need to be more exclusive? For years, both Evangelical and Progressive churches have lowered expectations to get people in the door. In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. talks with Dr. Tricia Lyons, a leader in evangelism at Virginia Theological Seminary, about why churches should raise the bar to reclaim a compelling, transformative vision for sharing the gospel. Dr. Lyons challenges seeker-sensitive and all-are-welcome models, questioning whether they truly form disciples. Instead, she advocates for a high-bar Christianity—one that calls people into deep commitment rather than passive inclusion. The conversation explores church decline, the limits of hospitality, the...2025-03-111h 26
Future ChristianWhat is the Church? And What is it for? Exploring Ecclesiology with David EmertonWhat is the church, and what is it for? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. talks with Rev. Dr. David Emerton to explore the purpose of the church, how different theological traditions define its role, and why these definitions matter for shaping the church’s future. David shares insights on why many churches are caught in cycles of inertia or panic in response to decline, how our implicit assumptions about the church shape ministry practices, and why understanding ecclesiology is essential for church leaders today. The conversation also touches on theological education, the role of tradition, and how the chur...2025-03-041h 00
Future ChristianStepping into Kingdom Justice with Michelle Ferrigno WarrenWhat does it mean to move beyond awareness and into action? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. sits down with Michelle Ferrigno Warren, author, activist, and faith-rooted organizer, to discuss what it takes to engage in meaningful justice work. Michelle shares her journey from growing up in a fundamentalist Christian environment to becoming a public theologian and advocate for community development and justice. She discusses the importance of proximity in transforming perspectives, why churches often struggle with moving from mercy to justice, and how pastors can engage in advocacy while navigating political and institutional pressures. The conversation also delves in...2025-02-251h 05
Future ChristianRedefining Leadership: Andrew Draper on Disability, Inclusion, and the Power of CommunityWhat does it mean to lead in weakness rather than strength? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. talks with Rev. Dr. Andrew Draper, co-author of Disabling Leadership: A Practical Theology for the Broken Body of Christ. Together, they explore how the church can redefine leadership away from power, charisma, and productivity toward humility, inclusion, and community-driven authority. Andrew shares insights from his work in disability theology, church leadership, and reconciliation, discussing how leadership must embrace human limitation and interdependence rather than seeking control or dominance. They also dive into the challenges of deconstruction and critical theory, why Christian nationalism a...2025-02-181h 06
Future ChristianChurch for Everyone: Why the Future Church must be Multi-Ethnic, Multi-Generational, & Mission-DrivenHow can churches truly become spaces for everyone? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. talks with Dan Kreiss and Ephraim Smith, co-authors of Church for Everyone: Building a Multi-Inclusive Community for Emerging Generations. Together, they explore how churches can move beyond silos of race, class, and ideology to truly reflect the diverse body of Christ. Dan and Ephraim discuss the shift from attractional mega-church models to localized, neighborhood-based faith communities, the growing need for multi-ethnic and multi-generational churches, and why the church should lead the way in reconciliation rather than follow secular models of inclusion. They also examine the t...2025-02-1150 min
Future ChristianWorship and the Body: David Taylor on Why Physicality Matters in WorshipHow does the way we use our bodies shape our faith? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. talks with W. David O. Taylor, Associate Professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary and author of A Body of Praise: Understanding the Role of Our Physical Bodies in Worship. David shares insights into the importance of physicality in worship, the role of space and posture, and how these practices can deeply shape spiritual formation. David discusses the impact of the pandemic on worship practices, the theological implications of our physical expressions, and the ways worship spaces and rituals influence h...2025-01-281h 02
Future ChristianProfessional Christian: Sarah Bereza on how to be fully yourself in public ministryWhat does it mean to be a professional Christian? In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Dr. Sarah Bereza, a church musician, theologian, and author of Professional Christian: Being Fully Yourself in the Spotlight of Public Ministry. They discuss Sarah's journey from a fundamentalist Baptist upbringing to her current role as a progressive Christian and musician in mainline churches. The conversation explores the complexities of being a "professional Christian"—where your livelihood is tied to your faith—and the challenges of authenticity, power dynamics, and leadership in ministry. Sarah shares insights on navigating purity cult...2025-01-211h 01
Get Off The Treadmill PodcastEpisode #20: From Income Producer to Business Owner: Paul Romig-Leavitt's Journey to FreedomWhat if you could break free from being tied to your business and start building one that works for you? In this episode of Get Off The Treadmill, Chuck Blakeman sits down with Paul Romig-Leavitt, a creative powerhouse and entrepreneur, to discuss the shift from being an income producer to a true business owner.
💡 Here’s what you’ll learn:
✅ The difference between an income producer and a business owner
✅ How to identify and focus on the highest and best use of your time
✅ Why letting go can unlock the potential of your team and business
✅ The surprising impact of an abundance mind...2025-01-1528 min
Future ChristianPrayer, Politics, and the Witness of the Church in Divided Times: A Roundtable DiscussionWhat role should the church play in today’s polarized political landscape? In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, Martha Tatarnic hosts a roundtable with Loren Richmond Jr., Larry Lin, and Dennis Sanders to explore the intersection of faith and politics. Together, they tackle challenging questions about political engagement, the church’s responsibility to marginalized communities, and navigating conversations with those who hold differing views. Topics include the Christian response to polarization, the role of prayer and discernment in political dialogue, and how churches can foster spaces for meaningful connection across ideological divides. They also reflect on the dange...2025-01-141h 09
Future ChristianPeter Elliott on Navigating Ministry and Creativity in a Changing ChurchWhat can musical theatre teach us about faith and leadership? In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, Martha Tatarnic sits down with the Very Reverend Peter Elliott, a retired Anglican priest, former dean of Christ Church Cathedral in Vancouver, and co-host of The Gospel of Musical Theatre. Dean Elliott shares his journey in ministry, offering insights on Christian leadership, the transformative role of music in worship, and adapting to the challenges of a declining institutional church. Highlights include Peter’s experiences with LGBTQ+ inclusion in the Anglican Church, his passion for coaching clergy, and his unique perspective on how musica...2025-01-071h 12
Future ChristianJesse Zink on Charting Realistic Hope for the Church’s Future.
What does it mean to be faithful and creative in a world shaped by crisis? In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, Martha Tatarnic welcomes the Reverend Dr. Jesse Zink, an Anglican priest, theologian, and author. Dr. Zink discusses his latest book, Faithful, Creative, Hopeful: 15 Theses for Christians in a Crisis-Shaped World, exploring how the church can navigate and respond to global and local crises with faith, creativity, and resilience. The conversation delves into themes of Christian formation, the impact of economic and social systems on faith communities, and the power of apocalyptic clarity to unveil and resist the d...2024-12-311h 02
Future ChristianMike Cosper on the Dangers of Ideology in the ChurchWhat happens when ideology takes over church leadership? In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Mike Cosper, creator of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill and director of podcasts at Christianity Today. Mike explores the dynamics of ideology within church leadership, particularly how ideological thinking can lead to disastrous decision-making. Together, they discuss the influence of secularism and the anxiety surrounding church decline, as well as the allure of charismatic leaders like Mark Driscoll. In a thought-provoking dialogue, they consider the role of populism, the importance of resisting the cult of personality in church leadership, and the practices of...2024-12-171h 18
Future ChristianFrom Pulpit to Platform: Alexander Lang’s JourneyWhat happens when a pastor trades the pulpit for a tech startup? In this episode, Martha welcomes back Alexander Lang, a former PCUSA pastor turned tech entrepreneur, to share his journey from church ministry to launching a business focused on fostering meaningful relationships. Alexander dives into his latest creative projects, including the Restorative Faith Podcast and his upcoming YouTube series, Kokoro, which draws inspiration from Mr. Rogers to address universal themes like trust, anxiety, and doubt, offering adults a space to feel seen, heard, and valued. Through the lens of Kokoro, he unpacks how theology and media intersect, blending...2024-12-101h 05
Future ChristianSeason 17 Recap: Challenges, Growth, and the Future ChurchIn this episode, co-hosts Martha Tatarnic and Loren Richmond Jr. reflect on the past season and share personal insights from their ministry journeys. Martha opens up about the challenges of transitioning back to ministry after a focused writing sabbath, touching on key themes like clergy mental health, food insecurity, and economic pressures that have shaped the season’s conversations. Loren and Martha celebrate a major milestone—200 episodes—reflecting on the podcast’s beginnings as a COVID project and its growth into a valued resource for church leaders. They highlight standout episodes, discussing topics such as the evolving landscape of church le...2024-12-031h 10
Future ChristianAnchors of Faith: Black Christianity in America with Walter Strickland
What can the wider church learn from the rich history and theology of Black Christianity? In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, Loren Richmond Jr. interviews Dr. Walter Strickland, a theologian and pastor, about his faith journey, spiritual practices, and the history of Black Christianity in America. Drawing from his book Swing Low, Dr. Strickland explores the anchors of Black Christianity, the impact of the Great Migration, and the tension between social engagement and gospel proclamation during the Civil Rights Movement. The conversation highlights lessons the white church can learn from African-American Christianity, the evolution of Black theology, and...2024-11-261h 06
Future ChristianJocelyn Jones on How to Start Your MinistryIn this conversation, Reverend Jocelyn Jones shares her journey of faith, trauma, and healing, emphasizing the importance of community and therapy in overcoming personal challenges. She discusses her experiences in ministry, the barriers women face, and the significance of understanding one's value beyond societal definitions of success and failure. The conversation highlights the need for spiritual practices and wise counsel to stay centered in God's guidance while passionately sharing one's ministry. In this conversation, Rev. Jocelyn Jones discusses the importance of effectively communicating and 'selling' one's ministry, the challenges of valuing one's time and services, and the significance of...2024-11-1950 min
Future ChristianCasey Tygrett on Why Remembering Matters
What if the key to a deeper relationship with God lies in the way we remember? In this episode, spiritual director and author Casey Tygrett joins us to explore how memory shapes our identity and faith journey. Together, we discuss how embracing spiritual practices that center on intimacy, rather than punishment, can help us unlearn harmful narratives about God. Casey shares insights on remembering as a path to healing, especially in addressing generational trauma that influences our beliefs. We also delve into the role of lament in processing painful memories and the wisdom we gain from them. Finally, we reflect...2024-11-1349 min
Future ChristianPastoral Health Roundtable: Kinsie Tate & Brian Davis on helping church leaders survive & thriveIn this milestone 200th episode of the Future Christian Podcast, hosts Loren Richmond Jr. and Martha Tatarnic celebrate with a roundtable discussion on clergy wellness, joined by Brian Davis, and Kinsie Tate. Together, they explore the challenges and opportunities surrounding pastoral health, sharing insights and personal experiences from their diverse backgrounds. The conversation delves into the importance of community, the performative nature of clergy life, and the challenges of burnout and mental health. The panelists share personal experiences and insights on navigating success and failure in ministry, the impact of competition among clergy, and the systemic issues facing the c...2024-11-071h 14
Future ChristianChuck DeGroat on Healing What's WithinWhat if the core problem in most humans these days isn't that we think too highly of ourselves, but rather that we live with an underlying sense of worthlessness, alienation, and disillusionment? In this episode, Chuck DeGroat joins the pod to talk about his book Healing What's Within and the concept of Internal Family Systems theory. Sharing from his background as a therapist and pastor, DeGroat explains the importance of befriending our different parts and becoming aware of how they show up in different situations. DeGroat emphasizes the significance of connecting with our true selves and living from that c...2024-11-0244 min
Future ChristianWorship in an Age of Anxiety with J. Michael JordanWhat if common worship practices are elevating our anxiety rather than centering us in the peace of God? In this conversation, J. Michael Jordan joins the show to talk about the intersection of faith and mental health, particularly in relation to anxiety. He explores the historical context of the anxiety-relief repentance model in revivalist movements and its impact on worship practices. He emphasizes the need for a more holistic and sustainable approach to faith that goes beyond the cycle of anxiety, repentance, and relief. Jordan emphasizes the importance of a guiding story outside of our own experiences and the...2024-10-2253 min
Future ChristianGrace Ji-Sun Kim on Making Church Less WhiteHow do we make church less "white," and more welcoming and inclusive of different non-white cultures, perspectives, and persons? In this conversation, Grace Ji-Sun Kim discusses her book When God Became White: Dismantling Whiteness for More Just Christianity and the need to challenge the white, male image of God in Christianity. She shares her personal experiences with racism and explores the impact of the image of a white Jesus on the perception of race and power in the church. Dr. Kim suggests embracing non-white, non-gendered images of God in worship and liturgy as a way to promote inclusivity and c...2024-10-0831 min
Future ChristianIs Church History Repeating Itself? A Bold Look with Elesha CoffmanHave you ever wondered if the battles we face in the modern church are just echoes of centuries-old conflicts? In this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. dives deep with Elesha J. Coffman to uncover how the struggles of the past are not only shaping our present but could be setting the stage for the church’s future. Elesha delves into the pivotal events that have shaped American church history, with a particular emphasis on the Methodist Church's split over slavery in 1844 and similarities between the division within the UMC today over LGBTQ inclusion and racial justice. They also discuss the te...2024-10-011h 02
Future ChristianBreaking Eurocentric Norms: Rethinking Religious Leadership with Kristina Lizardy-HajbiIn this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Rev. Dr. Kristina Lizardy-Hajbi, who delves into her recent research, including the Latino Congregations Trends from the Faith Communities Today (FACT) study and the Exploring the Pandemic Impact on Congregations (EPIC) study. She highlights key findings on the state of Latino congregations in the U.S., including challenges related to building ownership, generational wealth, and reliance on fundraising. Kristina also shares insights from her book, Unraveling Religious Leadership, which examines the Eurocentric norms in theological education and the need for a more inclusive approach to ministry.
Rev. Kristina Lizardy-Hajbi, Ph...2024-09-2448 min
Future ChristianMegan Bissell on why the Future of Faith is ListeningIn this episode, we explore with Megan Bissell the evolving landscape of American Christianity and how faith communities can adapt to new challenges. We begin by discussing the latest data on "nones" (those with no religious affiliation) and Gen Z, highlighting the need for a shift in thinking within American Christianity. Megan shares why she believes faith should be viewed as "a conversation" and why relationships rooted in listening are essential for churches looking to reconnect with modern society. We then introduce the concept of Sacred Listening Tools to help foster meaningful engagement. We delve into the origins of...2024-09-1750 min
Future ChristianCo-creating Renewal in your church with Rebekah Simon-PeterIn this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Rebekah Simon-Peter, a passionate advocate for reconnecting spiritual leaders with their divine potential to co-create miracles. They discuss the importance of moving beyond mere church attendance to fostering deep spiritual growth and apostleship within congregations. She emphasizes the significance of understanding Jesus from a Jewish perspective and how this can transform our reading of the New Testament. Loren and Rebekah also explore the challenges and opportunities for churches in a post-pandemic world, highlighting the need for spiritual depth and visionary leadership
Rebekah is passionate about spiritual growth and the communities...2024-09-1048 min
Future ChristianAmanda Udis-Kessler talks Progressive Christian EthicsWhat does it look like to live ethically as a Progressive Christian? In this episode, Amanda Udis-Kessler explores ethics from a Progressive Christian context, emphasizing the importance of loving our enemies and the connection to generosity of spirit as she believes Progressive Christianity is about striving to follow Jesus's path and working towards building a beloved community. The conversation also touches on the complexity of human nature, with the capacity for both tremendous good and terrifying evil, and thus the importance of societal influences to shape our values and actions. Amanda also explores the relationship between the gospel and...2024-09-0351 min
Future ChristianYolanda Solomon shares why Discipleship is a Holy CollaborationIn this episode, Loren Richmond Jr. welcomes Yolanda Solomon, the Director of Discipleship at Epiphany Church in Brooklyn, New York. Yolanda shares her journey in ministry, her love for the Knicks, and the importance of creating a reciprocal discipleship culture within the church. They discuss the challenges of modern discipleship, the pitfalls of fear, shame, and hatred, and the need for a long-term commitment to spiritual growth. Yolanda also provides insights on fostering a community where everyone can contribute to the discipleship process, emphasizing the power of mutual support and the Holy Spirit in transforming lives.
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Future ChristianRob Hurkmans on What We Wish We Knew 20 Years AgoIn this conversation, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Rob Hurkmans about his journey in ministry and the lessons he has learned along the way. They discuss topics such as their 20th anniversary of ordination, the faith context in which Rob was raised, his calling to ministry, and his current role at Trinity Streetsville. Rob shares his experience of being an idea person and the importance of slowing down and bringing others along in the process. They also touch on the challenges of personal investment in ideas and the influence of church growth literature. They also explore the role of liturgy in...2024-08-131h 08
Future ChristianMichael Pryse on Three Decades as BishopBishop Michael Pryse joins the show to share his perspectives on change and leadership in the Church from his three decades of experience in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada. He has helped the church navigate change, particularly in becoming more inclusive of LGBTQ+IA individuals. The conversation explores the challenges and pitfalls of the church, particularly in relation to the changing cultural context. It emphasizes the need to let go of the past and embrace new ways of being the church. The conversation also touches on the importance of inclusivity, engaging with newcomers, and breaking down denominational barriers. T...2024-08-061h 01
Future ChristianCallie Swanlund on Healing from Clergy BurnoutThe conversation between Martha and Callie Swanlund covers Callie's journey in the Episcopal Church, the changes in her Christian experience, her current ministry context, and the inspiration behind her book 'From Weary to Wholehearted: A Restorative Resource for Overcoming Clergy Burnout'. The discussion also delves into the challenges of clergy burnout, the pressure points for church leaders, and the importance of support systems and retreats. The conversation explores the concept of retreat as a means of self-care and the challenges of claiming personal needs. It delves into the SPARK framework, systemic issues in the church, and the future of...2024-07-3055 min
Future ChristianJason Byassee on Whether There is a Formula for Mainline SuccessIn this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Jason Byassee to talk about church growth in a Mainline church context. Jason discusses the importance of churches embracing their own limitations and uncertainties. He emphasizes the need for churches to recognize that their only hope lies in the resurrection of Jesus and to be willing to give away their assets to those who can fill them. Byassee also highlights the significance of funerals in conveying the meaning of life and the role of the church in providing a message that is worth hearing. He explores the commonalities among thriving churches, including a wi...2024-07-231h 00
Future ChristianAlison Milbank on Why Small and Local Might be the Church's Way ForwardIn this conversation, Professor Alison Milbank discusses the concept of the parish and its importance in the life of faith. She shares her experiences growing up in the Church of England and the changes she has witnessed due to secularization. Milbank emphasizes the significance of the parish as a local community that brings together people of different ages and cultures. She also explores the threats to the parish, including the influence of secularization and the rise of bureaucratic managerialism in the Church. Milbank argues for a return to the core activities of the church and a focus on mission...2024-07-161h 09
Future ChristianElizabeth Schrader-Polczer on Rethinking Mary Magdalene (Part 2)In this episode, Martha Tatarnic continues her conversation with Elizabeth Schrader Polczer for the second part of a groundbreaking conversation on biblical scholarship. Continuing from last week, Elizabeth delves deeper into her research on the Gospel of John, Papyrus 66, and the evolving understanding of Mary Magdalene's role in early Christianity. She explores the textual instabilities around the names Mary and Martha, revealing how these edits might have been attempts to downplay Mary's significance as a central figure in the Christian narrative. Elizabeth discusses the viral reaction to her work, sparked by Diana Butler Bass's sermon at the Wild Goose F...2024-07-0949 min
Future ChristianElizabeth Schrader-Polczer on Rethinking Mary Magdalene (Part 1)In this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes Elizabeth Schrader Polczer to talk about her groundbreaking work in biblical scholarship, particularly in how we see and understand Mary Magdalene and the Gospel of John. Elizabeth discusses the textual instabilities around the names Mary and Martha in John 11, visible in Papyrus 66, revealing intriguing insights and controversial edits that challenge traditional interpretations. She shares her discovery of editorial changes that suggest Martha may have been added to the Gospel of John in the second century. This revelation has significant implications for how we understand the role of Mary Magdalene in early Christianity.
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Future ChristianSpirituality for the 21st Century Rationalist: A Conversation with Alexander LangIn this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes back Alexander Lang for a deep and insightful conversation. Alex, a former PCUSA pastor, has transitioned from church ministry to a technology business aimed at fostering meaningful relationships. The discussion centers on Alex's recent experiences since leaving his pastoral role and delves into the themes of his new book, "Restored: Spirituality for the 21st Century Rationalist." Alex shares his journey over the past five months, reflecting on the sense of community he misses and the broader implications for society as traditional church communities decline. The conversation explores the concept of the overview effect, i...2024-06-251h 06
Future ChristianThe Role of Music Leaders in Shaping the Future of the Church— A Conversation with Christopher DawesIn this episode, Martha Tatarnic welcomes, Christopher Dawes, a veteran worship leader and musician in Canada. Chris discusses the challenges and pressures faced by church musicians and the unique role they play in worship. The conversation also explores the individuality and isolation experienced by church musicians and the need for better relationships between musicians and ministers. The conversation delves into the role of music in churches, the challenges faced by church musicians, and the significance of the Summer Institute of Church Music. It explores the power and pastoral potential of music, the overvaluation and undervaluation of music in churches, a...2024-06-181h 03
Future ChristianWhy Podcast? What the podcast space offers the life of the churchIn this joint podcast episode with Vicars' Crossing and Future Christian, Kevin, Rob and Martha talk about why as busy pastors leading churches they carve out time to be part of hosting podcasts. What are the conversations that the church needs to be having? What has been difficult for the church to talk about? What do we see as the value of making time and space for conversations with different voices from a variety of perspectives figuring our leadership in our churches today? What do we hope to offer the church on Vicars' Crossing and Future Christian, and what...2024-06-111h 04
Future ChristianTerri Hord Owens on building a connected Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)Rev. Teresa Hord Owens, General Minister and President of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) shares about the Covenant Project, which aims to increase participation and decision-making in the church, the Church Narrative Project, which focuses on changing the narrative of the church to be more inclusive and anti-racist, and the Proclamation Project, which equips clergy with preaching resources. She also talks about the importance of data gathering and analysis in understanding the state of the denomination. Hord Owens also highlights the importance of theological diversity, staying together at the table, and the need for moral and theological grounding...2024-05-291h 07
Chasing SundayDave King Returns to talk Church and TechIn this thought-provoking episode of Chasing Sunday, hosts Brian Davis and Paul Romig-Leavitt sit down with the insightful Dave King to explore the intersection of worship, technology, and the human quest for connection. They unpack the challenges and opportunities presented by technology in the worship space, navigating the delicate balance between leveraging tech to enhance community and the risk of letting it overshadow the heart of ministry. Dave, a seasoned expert in AV management for churches, shares his philosophy on empowering volunteers and his pastoral approach to stewardship of technology. This conversation also takes a philosophical turn as Paul...2024-05-281h 10
Future ChristianPastoral Health, Leading Change, and Building Connection: Martha & Loren highlight season 15In this episode, Loren and Martha review the highlights of the season and discuss three broad themes: pastoral health, individualization versus connection, and leading change. They play clips from interviews with Kinsie Tate, Jonathan Foster, Ted Smith, Tessa Pinkstaff, Doug Powe, Scott Thumma and more to explore these themes. They discuss the challenges clergy face in dealing with their own issues while ministering to others, the need for support and community, and the tension between individualism and connection in the church. They also touch on the impact of live streaming and online ministry on the church community. The conversation...2024-05-2155 min
Future ChristianBrian McLaren on Leading and Living after DoomWith the continued decline of churches and denominations, many pastors and church leaders are facing a future filled with doom. In this conversation, Brian McLaren discusses his new book Life After Doom and how the four possible scenarios for the future of our world mirror the reality of institutional church: collapse avoidance, collapse rebirth, collapse survival, and collapse extinction. McLaren emphasizes the need for pastoral care and support in the face of these challenges and encourages individuals to show up for what they love. He also suggests reimagining the Christian faith as a series of movements rather than institutions. M...2024-05-1455 min
Future ChristianHow to Lead Faithful Innovation in your churchIn this conversation, Tessa Pinkstaff and Dwight Zscheile discuss their book, Leading Faithful Innovation. They define faithful innovation as the adoption of new or ancient practices that help the church connect more deeply with God, each other, and their neighbors. They emphasize the need for leaders to create an environment where the Holy Spirit can lead and for the church to embrace failure as a learning opportunity. They also discuss the importance of cultivating a culture of listening, acting, and sharing. The guests discuss the need for churches to adapt and change in order to connect with people in...2024-05-0750 min
Future ChristianNew models of clergy credentialing: Jonathan Foster talks about the Open Table NetworkWith the breakdown of institutions and denominations, faltering also are the credentialing methods for pastors and clergy. In this conversation, Jonathan Foster joins the show to talk about Open Table Network, a clergy network that provides credentialing and support for pastors, chaplains, and counselors who have been excluded or marginalized by their faith traditions. With culture moving away from "big tent" institutions to affinity groups, Foster acknowledges the dangers of such but emphasizes the importance of local missional communities and empowering individuals rather than building centralized institutions. He also discusses the trend of denominations splintering and sees the value i...2024-04-3054 min
Future ChristianNichole Torbitzky talks campus ministry and what the next generation needs from church.University Chaplain and Professor Nichole Torbitzsky joins the show to talk about her work with college students, how they are engaging and identifying with Christianity, and what are the biggest "stumblingblocks" for students as they consider faith. She also discusses as Open and Relational / Process theology, the importance of community and spiritual connection for young adults, and the challenges faced by college students in finding their identity and place in the church. Torbitzsky believes many young adults feel excluded or unwelcome in traditional church settings and therefore churches need to be more accepting and loving towards all individuals, including t...2024-04-2347 min
Future ChristianWounded Pastors: Carol Howard talks about the challenges clergy faceAcross American Christianity, there is a shortage of clergy, and this is exacerbated by financial struggles, housing issues, and the emotional toll of being a pastor. In this episode, Carol Howard joins the show to talk about challenges and trends in clergy health. She also explored the impact of these trends on younger clergy and the need for the church to invest in clergy support. Howard also shares from her book Wounded Pastors, which explores the concept of Family Systems Theory and its application in helping pastors and clergy navigate challenges and dynamics within their congregations. The conversation also t...2024-04-1651 min
Future ChristianTed Smith talks about the Past, Present, and End(?) of Theological EducationIts no secret that the church as an institution in America is undergoing great change, and with it the role and function of clergy. In this episode, Ted Smith joins the show to talk about the history of formal theological education in the United States, the transition from the standing order to voluntary associations as the primary sociological gathering model, the professionalization of ministry, and the emergence of denominations as we know them. He also talks about the downsides of the professionalization such as clergy being lonely, isolated, and out of touch. Ted also speaks about growing trends such...2024-04-091h 01
Future ChristianDoug Powe on Sustaining while DisruptingSo, you're trying to sustain a church for continued health... while also disrupting the status quo... impossible, right? Not so, says Pastor and author Doug Powe. In this episode, we talk about his book Sustaining While Disrupting, emphasizing the importance of thinking like an outsider, taking risks, and putting aside convictions. Doug makes his case from the stories of the early church in Acts. He also addresses the challenges of navigating disputes in the church, particularly regarding issues like women pastors and LGBT inclusion. Doug advises honoring convictions while allowing for change over time. He emphasizes the need for cl...2024-04-0247 min
Future ChristianMark Feldmeir on Life after God (and Covid)Churches and individuals are facing a time of division and uncertainty, as we recover from the Covid-19 pandemic, political discord, and changing beliefs about God. In this episode, Mark Feldmeir delves into the realities of leading a progressive congregation in a conservative community, the innovative responses to the pandemic, and the denominational shifts within Methodism. Mark also shares insights from his book, 'Life After God,' which explores finding faith when one can't believe anymore. He discusses the need for a new way of thinking about God and the importance of embracing the complexities of life.
Mark Fe...2024-03-2645 min
Future ChristianLiz Cooledge Jenkins talks 'Nice' Church PatriarchyIn this conversation, Liz Cooledge Jenkins shares her journey from growing up in a Mainline Protestant church to exploring conservative evangelicalism and eventually returning to Mainline Protestant communities. She discusses the reasons why many people leave mainline contexts for evangelicalism and the challenges she faced within evangelical churches. She shares insights from her book, 'Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism,' and highlights the need for churches and leaders to practice humility and address patriarchal structures in worship and theology. Liz also discusses the importance of inclusive worship, genuine representation, and the importance of including diverse voices...2024-03-1251 minChasing SundayBottlenecks & BooksIn the last episode of the season for the Chasing Sunday podcast, hosts Brian Davis and Paul Romig-Leavitt discuss the concept of a "bottleneck," a term used to describe challenges and questions faced by worship leaders. They answer a question from a worship leader about engaging with all aspects of God and human experience in worship. They also discuss the dominance of the "big four" churches in the worship music industry, the challenge of getting congregations to sing more, and share book recommendations that have impacted them. The next season will focus on the impact of technology on worship.2023-12-191h 09Chasing SundayBecky Ykema Addresses Challenges Faced by Worship LeadersIn this podcast episode, hosts Brian Davis and Paul Romig-Leavitt welcome worship leader and coach Becky Ykema. They discuss the challenges faced by worship leaders, particularly female ones and the importance of finding supportive communities. They also touch on the impact of the pandemic on church attendance and the shift towards gig-based worship leaders. Becky shares her experiences as a coach, emphasizing the importance of personal development and mentorship in the worship community. Becky Ykema is currently a worship leader at large, serving a number of congregations through worship leading and vocal coaching in the Denver area. S...2023-11-2956 minChasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: Strength (Part 2)In this podcast episode, Brian Davis and Paul Romig-Leavitt delve into the significance of strategic planning in worship ministry. They underscore the value of having a well-thought-out plan and executing it effectively, as it can yield positive outcomes not only in church settings but also in various aspects of life such as work, relationships, and personal growth. Contrary to popular belief, they dispel the notion that planning hampers creativity, instead highlighting how it can foster freedom and provide a solid foundation for artistic endeavors. They also touch upon the importance of community support, delegating tasks, and the advantages of...2023-09-0544 minChasing SundayExploring the Shift in Church Attendance and Worship Practices with Josh PackardIn this episode, hosts Brian and Paul interview guest Josh Packard, author of "Church Refugees." They discuss the impact of Josh's book on their own work in worship leadership and the need for research to be accessible and applicable to everyday life. They delve into topics such as the decline of the church, the erosion of institutional trust, and the need for the church to adapt to societal changes. They also explore innovative approaches to worship and the importance of building trust and connecting with individuals. 2023-08-2255 minChasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: StrengthIn this episode of the Chasing Sunday podcast, hosts Brian and Paul discuss the fourth pillar of their coaching platform, the Green Room, which focuses on strength. They emphasize the importance of starting with a strong foundation of identity and acceptance before diving into practical strategies and methods. They caution against prioritizing success and achievement over deeper spiritual growth. They also discuss the power and responsibility of amplifying messages through social media, the importance of grounding leadership in acceptance and unconditional love of God, and the need for balance and involving others in leadership. They reflect on the cyclical...2023-08-0855 minChasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: MindIn this episode of the "Chasing Sunday" podcast, hosts Brian Davis and Paul Romig-Leavitt discuss the Mind pillar, one of the core tenets of their coaching and spiritual formation platform called "The Green Room." They emphasize the integration of the mind, soul, heart, and strength in ministry, highlighting the need for a strong foundation in soul and heart before implementing plans and strategies. They also discuss the importance of embracing intuition and mystery in ministry, the challenges of emulating successful churches, and the significance of understanding and embracing one's own cultural context. They stress the importance of building relationships...2023-07-2556 minChasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: HeartThe concept of the heart can be confusing; Jeremiah said it is "deceptive above all things," but we're told in Sunday school to "invite Jesus into our heart." In this episode we dive in to what it looks like to trust the Spirit with our heart and learn to discern where we're being led and where to lead others.2023-07-1150 minChasing SundayWhy are Clergy Feeling Stuck in Their Calling, Congregation, and Career?Are you feeling stuck in your calling as a spiritual leader? In this episode of the Chasing Sunday podcast, Dr. Todd Ferguson, a sociologist of religion, shares his insights on the challenges faced by pastors in their calling, congregation, and career. Dr. Ferguson discusses the three major factors that shape religion today, the level of secularization in society, and the shifts happening in the transition from the industrial age to the participation age. He also talks about the concept of traditional innovation and the struggle of authenticity in the church. Tune in to learn how to navigate ministry without...2023-06-221h 06Chasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: SoulIt all starts with the soul: what is it, how do you care for it, and how important is it to our life and longevity in ministry?2023-06-0852 minChasing SundayThe Green Room Pillars: OverviewWelcome back to Chasing Sunday! This season, Brian & Paul unpack the core tenets of The Green Room, TCA’s new spiritual formation and coaching platform for worship leaders. 2023-05-3056 minFuture ChristianThe Pressure to Perform as a Pastor - with Paul Romig-Leavitt and Brian DavisPastors and church leaders often face the pressure to "perform," whether that means always appearing as spiritually confident, emotionally intact, or even just always showing up as the idealized version of themselves. In our age of authenticity, how can pastors and church leaders balance the need to "perform" in some capacity while also being true to themselves? In this conversation with Paul Romig-Leavitt and Brian Davis, two veteran worship leaders who know what it's like to "put on a show" for thousands of people at a time, we talk about handling the pressures and how to lead in a...2023-02-281h 17Chasing SundaySeason Finale!Reflecting on our guests and conversations, Paul and Brian reminisce about their favorite guests and conversations, sharing gratitude for people who like them, are passionate about caring for leaders and the church. Listen in for highlights of great clips and insights from the season that was!2023-02-0757 minChasing SundayThe Path of Longing with Mark DornMark S. Dorn is Professor of Music at Colorado Christian University, as well as a private practice counselor. In his work at CCU, Mark leads the Symphonic Band and Jazz Ensemble, teaches trumpet lessons, and actively mentors undergraduate students. He is both a freelance musician and conductor, as well as author. With a longtime investment in discipleship and counseling, his curiosity about how knowing God can lead to personal transformation has propelled him into counseling, writing, and a lot of musing about the journey. He is married to Jill, with four grown children and ten grandchildren, and lives in...2023-01-241h 06Chasing SundayDaniel Wakefield shares about being called out of a churchDaniel is a composer, songwriter, and musician. He composes music for film and stage, enjoying writing for orchestra, choir, folk instruments, and electronic music. He also teaches music both privately and as a professor of music at Colorado Christian University, as well as regularly leads worship at churches along the front range in Colorado. He has been married to his wife Mariana for 15 years and they have 3 growing boys.2023-01-101h 03Chasing SundayStephen Redden talks about staying too long as a pastor and setting his own ministry end date.Stephen Redden was one of the founding pastors of NDC in 2009. He’s no longer on staff but is still part of the community and serves in so many important ways. Stephen currently works as the Director of Strategic Projects at Marrow, a small business that starts and operates small businesses. He is also the director of The Church Cooperative of Denver, the local church network NDC helped launch in 2017. Stephen is a graduate of Mississippi State University (B.S. Computer Engineering, M.B.A.) and Dallas Theological Seminary (M.A. Biblical Studies). He is married to Kate and th...2022-12-271h 17Chasing SundayChurch in the Participation Age with Chuck BlakemanChuck Blakeman is a successful entrepreneur, best-selling business author, TED Speaker, and world-renowned business advisor who built twelve businesses in eight industries on five continents, and now uses his experience to advise others. His company, Crankset Group, provides outcome-based mentoring and peer advisory for business leaders worldwide. Chuck sold one of his businesses to the largest consumer fulfillment company in America and led three other $10-$100 million companies. He presently leads the Crankset Group and a for-profit business based in Africa, focused on developing local economies to solve poverty. Mr. Blakeman is a results leader with decades of experience l...2022-12-131h 15Chasing SundayLeadership Inside & Outside the Church with Thom and Sandy CorriganThom is the author of five books and numerous articles on leadership, team building and mentoring and has over 40 years experience in leadership, consulting and organizational development across several industries including church planting, business development, training and corporate development. Now Thom is Chief Transformation Officer for 3to5 Clubs and he sells homes to raise money to underwrite sustainable water projects in 3rd world Villages. Thom is married to the love of his life, Sandra. They have successfully raised four girls and have 4 incredible grand-children. He's an avid motorcyclist, horseman, reader and of jazz and blues enthusiast. Sandy...2022-11-291h 22Chasing SundayDave King talks about fitting tech to your spaceDave King is a lifelong musician, currently working as the senior AV manager at the Denver Art Museum, Denver, CO. Dave also has experience in the church and nonprofit world, serving as Director of Worship Arts for two churches and as Executive Director for a nonprofit. Dave's interest in music and technical audio started at a young age. With severe hearing loss from birth, he's always been fascinated learning the science behind sound and the way that these waves interact with ears and brains, work together to create music, and impact emotional responses. His passion is building relationships with...2022-11-161h 11Chasing SundayCreating Holy Spaces with Josh GaffgaJosh Gaffga has spent his professional career navigating between the worlds of worship ministry, theater and film performance and directing, and K-12 education. His experience in these three worlds has allowed him to create bridges between church, theater, and educational institutions and to borrow best practices from each realm. Currently, Josh is a Middle School Performing Arts teacher at Dawson School in Lafayette, Colorado. In addition, he has a private vocal and acting coaching business and also serves as part of Invia Collective's worship leading team. Josh is also internet-famous for having a photo of him and...2022-11-011h 16Chasing SundayManaging Leadership Anxiety with Jimmy CarnesManaging stress and anxiety can be the hardest job for any ministry leader in church. Jimmy Carnes joins the show to talk about the anxiety of leadership and shares some tools that he's learned along the way that have been helpful for him in his ministry.Jimmy Carnes is the Director of Operations at Discovery Christian Church in Broomfield CO. A decade ago, he joined the church as the director of Worship Arts, and between then and now have worn several hats within the organization. Discovery is also the place that he encountered family systems theory from St...2022-10-181h 03Chasing SundaySoul Care with Ally Ley & Debbie SwansonSpiritual Directors Ally Ley and Debbie Swanson join the pod to talk about caring for one's soul and being in relationship with a relational God who is for us and with us, living in partnership with God rather than feeling the need to perform for God. More, they invite leaders into a new way of living and serving, one in which they are filled up and give of the over flow, rather than constantly pouring themselves out for others.Ally Ley is a trained Christian spiritual director dedicated to creating space for individuals and groups to encounter...2022-10-041h 15Chasing SundayTommy Staudt talks humility and relational equityTommy Staudt joins the podcast and talks about breaking the mold, moving from volunteer to paid positions in worship ministry, and why relational equity is the most valuable tool in your tool box.Tommy Staudt is a worship pastor from Westminster, Colorado who currently leads the worship ministry at Kindred Church in Broomfield. His music and ministry experience spans over 20 years and includes being the worship pastor of Flatirons Church in Lafayette, Colorado, as well as leading at dozens of other churches around the country. He will be marrying his fiancé, Lauren in September 2022 and would love t...2022-09-201h 08Future ChristianLoren Richmond Jr takes some time to share his storyWe turn the mike around this episode and talk to the host of the show, Loren Richmond Jr! Interviewed by Paul Romig-Leavitt, the intro voice and one of the producers of the show, Loren and talks about his church planting experience, why he resonates with Eeyore, and what makes him tick.
Loren is a pastor, podcaster, and social entrepreneur. Currently serving as a hospital chaplain, Loren is passionate about leading, serving, and creating to help churches better share the radical love and welcome of God's love made known in Jesus with their communities.
The Future...2021-12-1447 minChasing SundayLoren Richmond Jr.Paul Romig-Leavitt interviews Church planter and fellow podcaster Loren Richmond Jr. about the passion and disappointments in planting a church. 2021-07-1953 minChasing SundayInterview with Marcel and Cindy Arocha (Worship Leaders and Coaches with InVia Collective)Worship leaders and organizational coaches Marcel and Cindy Arocha with InVia Collective talk about the challenges and joys of the intersection of marriage and ministry along with the racial reckoning the church faces in 2021. Guest Hosted by Paul Romig-Leavitt.2021-05-2857 minChasing SundayInterview w/ Danny Oertli (Worship Leader, Songwriter, Author)Veteran songwriter and worship leader Danny Oertli shares his story, chats about songwriting, receiving criticism in ministry, and shares his thoughts on his hope for the future of worship in the local church.2021-05-051h 03Chasing SundayInterview w/ Luke Burgett (Worship Leader)Brian sits down for a conversation with worship leader Luke Burgett and talks about calling and what to do with difficult conversations about performance.2021-04-211h 28Chasing SundayWhere'd You Go?Brian has a quick update about why there haven't been any new episodes lately.2021-04-1610 minChasing SundayInterview w/ Justin Adams (Worship Leader, Songwriter)Justin Adams is one of Brian's bestest friends, and they sit down in this episode to talk about Justin's journey through ministry, navigating conflict with senior leadership, and stepping up into one's calling to lead. Justin is one of the worship pastors at Mission Hills Church in Littleton, CO, has served as a worship leader and part of the steering team for the Experience Conference, and has recorded live and studio albums. His latest album, "Unsearchable God" is available wherever you download or stream music. You can find out more about Justin at his website, justincurtisadams.com.2021-02-101h 16Chasing SundayInterview w/ Mark Groutas (Worship Pastor, Journey Church)Brian and Mark take some time to chat about Mark's journey in ministry, the things he's learned and is learning, and how genuinely relate to and care for your worship team. Mark is a veteran worship leader who currently serves as Worship Pastor at Journey Church in Castle Rock, CO (journeycolorado.com), and he and his team are currently working on a worship album to inspire and encourage their community. 2021-01-211h 20Chasing SundayOutside The CampThank you to everyone who has listened this year! We'll be back in 2021 with more episodes designed to help worship leaders get off the Sunday to Sunday treadmill and find joy and fulfillment in ministry. If you would like to find out how you can partner with TCA to keep this podcast rolling, as well as several other initiatives to help strengthen the creative soul of the local church, visit torncurtainarts.org/outside-the-camp. Have a Merry Christmas and a very happy New Year!2020-12-2338 minChasing SundayInterview w/ Danny Byram (Wallpaper Worship)Danny Byram is an author, speaker, musician, singer/songwriter, worship leader, and event producer. He has spent three decades producing some of the largest Christian events in recent history (Promise Keepers, FamilyLife Arena Events) and ministering to our US military communities at home and overseas since 1987. In this episode Danny and Brian talk about Danny's book Wallpaper Worship and why a lot of churches look and sound better than ever while fewer people are engaging in worship. You can find out more about Danny's ministry and his book at www.dannybyram.com.2020-12-031h 02
Get Off The Treadmill for Business LeadersEpisode 8- Paul Romig Leavitt with Torn Curtain ArtsToday we are talking with a very good friend, Paul Romig-Leavitt, who has very powerful insights on creativity! He lives well by doing good, and is such a great asset to society and 3to5 Club. We know you will all love him, too.
Paul Romig-Leavitt has been a pastor and creative director in Denver Colorado since 2001. He is the co-author of the book “Cue-Lines: Time to Act” and has written, directed and performed in plays that have been seen live by over 500,000 people around the country. He founded the non-profit, Torn Curtain Arts, in 2006 which produces creative even...2020-11-2045 minChasing SundayInterview w/ Anne GriffinThis episode’s guest is Anne Griffin. Anne is a worship leader in the Denver area, a gifted pianist, a devoted wife and mother, and an all around great human. Anne and Brian discuss processing pain and loss as a part of the ministry journey, the reluctance of reentering ministry after being wounded, “doing church differently”, and dealing with burnout.2020-11-181h 11Chasing SundayInterview w/ Dave Powers (Mountain City Music, Worship & The Word Movement)Brian has a conversation with Dave Powers. Dave is a world-renowned worship leader, speaker, and songwriter. He and his wife, Tara, release beautifully creative and stylistically diverse songs as Mountain City, and are the founders of Worship & The Word Movement, a collective of worshipers, speakers, songwriters, collaborators, spiritual mentors, community organizers, event producers, and dream champions who love Jesus and people deeply. Check them out on Spotify or at worshipandtheword.com & mountaincitymusic.com. 2020-11-041h 12Chasing SundayInterview w/ Paul Romig-Leavitt (Torn Curtain Arts)Brian sits down to talk with his good friend Paul Romig-Leavitt about his ministry journey, holding on to our true self, finding moments of creativity, technological and philosophical shifts, and just a dash of gibberish! Paul has been a worship leader in the Denver area for 20+ years and is the founder and president of Torn Curtain Arts. For more information about TCA go to www.torncurtainarts.org. 2020-10-2148 minChasing SundayEpisode OneBrian shares his heart behind starting the Chasing Sunday podcast and talks a bit about Torn Curtain Arts, a ministry that exists to strengthen the creative souls of Denver worship leaders. For more information about TCA go to www.torncurtainarts.org. Thanks for listening!2020-10-0730 min
Saturday Night Supper club"Certainty, The Enemy Of Trust" - Paul Romig - LeavittWe all struggle with trust issues when it comes to circumstances we can't understand, and we often wonder where God is in the middle of our troubles.
On April 25th we welcomed guest speaker Paul Romig-Leavitt. Paul shared this message with us titled, "Certainty, The Enemy Of Trust."2020-05-0630 min