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Break It Down Show
Pete Jensen – D Co 165th MI Battalion
It's not easy to become a solid Counterintelligence Agent. It's for sure a life defining challenge to become a Green Beret. So what does it take to master both skills? Pete Jensen has completed this journey. Pete Jensen was in D Co, 165th MI Bn when Pete A Turner was in the unit. Jensen left D Co before Bosnia to become a Green Beret...and that's where we have to stop telling that story, because "That's Classified." Jensen knows the spy game. Turner knows the spy game...this episode is apex Spy vs Spy talk.
2024-12-19
1h 04
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Mark Christopher Lawrence – Family Camp
Mark Christopher Lawrence – Family Camp - Get ready for a hilarious and insightful episode as we sit down with the talented comedian and actor, Mark Christopher Lawrence! You've seen him in iconic films like K-Pax and Terminator 2, and his latest movie, 'Family Camp,'. Join us as MCL joins Pete A Turner, along with some potential special guest co-hosts, for a deep dive into Mark's comedy, acting, and screenwriting. Plus, we'll explore Mark's other intriguing interests and uncover the profound truths of life. Don't miss this engaging conversation! Please support the Break It Down Show by doing a monthly subscription to...
2023-09-16
1h 03
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Kevin Sullivan - 21 Gun Salute Podcast
Kevin Sullivan - 21 Gun Salute Podcast - Meet Kevin "Sully" Sullivan, a former Air Force C-130 Navigator who faced adversity head-on after an injury in Iraq forced his early retirement. In the depths of depression, he had a choice: succumb to despair or chart a new course. Fast forward 14 years, and Sully is a thriving Physician Assistant with a beautiful family. Discover his inspiring journey on the Twenty One Gun Podcast, now part of Compound Media with Pete A Turner bringing the Break It Down Show Style. Support Sully at or follow Twenty One Gun Podcast on all social media a...
2023-09-14
1h 03
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Buddy Levy's River of Darkness: The Adventure of Francisco Orellana
Buddy Levy's River of Darkness: The Adventure of Francisco Orellana - Explore the captivating journey of Francisco Orellana in Buddy's book "River of Darkness," a remarkable tale that reads like fantasy fiction but is undeniably true. Join us as we delve into the odyssey of Orellana, which traces the monumental first European voyage across the vast Amazon basin. With limited provisions, Orellana and his men courageously ventured over 1500 miles into uncharted territory, chronicled by Gaspar de Carvajal. Discover the legacy Orellana left in the Amazon basin, including naming the Rio Negra, and his interactions, often tumultuous, with numerous native tribes...
2023-08-25
59 min
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Jay Mohr: Comedian, Actor and Author - Altamont Comedy Special
Jay Mohr: Comedian, Actor and Author - Altamont Comedy Special - Join us in this special episode of the Break It Down Show as we welcome Jay Mohr, a guiding presence akin to a big brother. Back in the day, hosts Jon Leon Guerrero and Pete A Turner embarked on a collaborative mission to capture Jay's attention and admiration. With Jon's unique touch, Pete's unwavering determination, and Jay's genuine affection, a bond was formed. Discover Jay's latest triumph, the formidable Amazon special titled 'Altamont,' a true powerhouse of a performance. Beyond the spotlight, Jay has undergone a remarkable transformation...
2023-08-22
1h 03
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Andrews and Wilson – The Next Dark Angel
Andrews and Wilson – The Next Dark Angel - Andrews and Wilson return with the latest installment of the Dark Angel series, bringing intrigue and action to the forefront. Join us as we delve into the world of former Navy SEAL Jedidiah Johnson, now training with the elite Shepherds. A true bromance unfolds as we explore the camaraderie between the authors and Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. In this gripping novel, Johnson's journey takes an unexpected turn as he leads a rookie team amidst visions of impending danger. With time ticking away, he's dispatched to neutralize a thr...
2023-08-14
59 min
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Jeff Annison – Legon M, Fan Owned Production
Jeff Annison – Legon M, Fan Owned Production - Jeff Annison made his debut on the Break It Down Show as guest #5, and now, after more than 1300 episodes, he has returned. During his initial appearance, they discussed the New York Rock Exchange, a platform designed to facilitate direct connections between musicians and their fans, allowing fans to invest in their favorite artists. Today, that project has evolved into something even bigger called Legion M, which is also fan-funded, but this time with a focus on movies. Jeff, along with co-founder Paul Scanlan, established Legion M to partner with prominent Hollywood creators, ra...
2023-07-31
1h 02
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Steve Stoliar – Raised Eyebrows, Salamis and Swastikas
Steve Stoliar – Raised Eyebrows, Salamis and Swastikas - Meet Steve Stoliar, the writing wizard with almost four decades of professional experience under his literary belt. From tickling Dick Cavett's funny bone to crafting captivating episodes for hit TV shows like Murder, She Wrote, Simon & Simon, The New WKRP in Cincinnati, Legend, and Sliders, Steve's pen has weaved wonders. But wait, there's more! Ever curious and endlessly creative, Steve has lent his expertise to numerous books and documentaries centered around the iconic Groucho Marx and his fascinating siblings. The Marx Brothers aren't the only ones who've caught his attention, though. He's di...
2023-07-28
1h 00
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Spencer Garrett – Winning Time's Chick Hearn
Spencer Garrett – Winning Time's Chick Hearn - Spencer Garrett plays Chick Hearn in HBO's latest smash series Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty. The series is taken from Break It Down Show alum Jeff Pearlman. Jeff's books thrill sports fans telling the stories of Bo Jackson, The USFL and now brought to life the 80's Lakers dynasty. Watch Winning Time on HBOMax Today! Spencer has decades worth of TV and film credits. His role as Chick is one of about 10 new projects that are schedule for release or deep into the pre-production process. Pete A Turner dives in wit...
2023-07-25
47 min
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Grant Martin – Ukraine, Russia and Critical Thinking
Grant Martin – Ukraine, Russia and Critical Thinking - Join us for an insightful and thought-provoking episode with the remarkable Grant Martin, a Green Beret on a mission to earn a PhD. Having ventured across the globe on numerous deployments, Grant's experiences are as diverse as they are fascinating. On this occasion, he returns to the Break It Down Show, where he teams up with the host, Pete A Turner, to delve into the complexities of the war in Ukraine. But this discussion goes beyond the usual political divisions, exploring the personal and social factors that influence our critical thinking in th...
2023-07-20
1h 07
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Lani Kass - Ukraine vs Russia, From the Top
Lani Kass - Ukraine vs Russia, From the Top - Step into the intriguing world of international security with a seasoned expert on the Break It Down Show! In this captivating podcast episode, host Pete A Turner is joined by the remarkable Dr. Lani Kass, a true polymath in the field. With fluency in nine languages and a prestigious PhD from Columbia's Russian Institute of International Affairs, Lani's academic prowess is awe-inspiring. Her list of achievements and contributions to numerous organizations is so extensive, we'd need a whole day to go through it! But don't worry, Pete and Lani have...
2023-07-19
1h 19
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Richard Caruso – Corruption in Corrections in Corcoran
Richard Caruso – Corruption in Corrections in Corcoran - Richard's courageous whistleblowing made waves, with his story even inspiring the Hollywood movie "Felon," starring Steven Dorf and Val Kilmer. In this exclusive interview, Richard sits down with host Pete A Turner for the first time to reveal the harrowing truth about life for guards and prisoners in the high-security unit (SHU) at Corcoran Correctional Facility. Prepare to have your perceptions challenged as Richard paints a vivid picture of a system that often falls short of its mission to rehabilitate and protect. This gripping episode will leave you with a deeper understanding of...
2023-07-17
1h 12
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Andrew Dziengeleski – Trump Doctrine or Understanding International Complexities
Andrew Dziengeleski – Trump Doctrine or Understanding International Complexities - Get ready for one of our strategy shows. COL Andrew Dziengeleski joins Pete A Turner to survey modern combat/diplomacy. Whether it's theory, Great Power Conflict, or nanobots, we've got strong thoughts on the topic. Andy and Pete provide us an unvarnished look at the complexities of foreign policy, and why the US struggles to reliably create positive outcomes. Also, the fellas dive into multi-dimensional combat considering the ultra-complex urban fight.Please support the Break It Down Show by doing a monthly subscription to the show All of the money you inves...
2023-05-31
1h 25
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Bryan Fuller - The First Ever Human Powered Row from Boston to London
Bryan Fuller - The First Ever Human Powered Row from Boston to London - Bryan Fuller is BACK on the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner. Bryan and Pete go back nearly 30 years. Throughout their friendship, Bryan and Pete have talked of their various adventures. Now, Bryan is back at it. Until recently, Bryan was the recording holding American in rowing across the Atlantic. Yes, the whole ocean! But, that attempt wasn't hard enough for Bryan. Now he's built a 4-man team. The challenge? Row from Boston to London. This is an unprecedented row in the known history of...
2023-05-31
40 min
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Album Fight – U2 Vs U2 Songs of Surrender, Fight 1
Album Fight – U2 Vs U2 Songs of Surrender, Fight 1 - Album Fights pit one album against the other in a boxing format. Each round is judged by a panel of three judges. Those judges scored based upon a 10pt must system. In this fight, we've got the newly released Songs of Surrender in the ring against itself. U2's new album features 40 songs. In the vinyl format, the album becomes a 2 record set. Each record has 10 songs. So Side 1's song 1 will face Side two's first song. Then Side 1's song two against Side 2's side two. The host is Mi...
2023-04-28
1h 36
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Chuck Holton - Live from Ukraine
Chuck Holton - Live from Ukraine - Chuck Holton has led an adventurous life. He's been an Army Ranger, a helicopter pilot, he's authored several books, traveled the world as a free-lance war correspondent and now he's covering the Ukrainian v Russia conflict. Watch Chuck's reports on his YT channel: What we want is the facts, from someone on the ground...Chuck is that reporter. Chuck has been in Ukraine for years, reporting on the ebbing and flowing conflict. He joined Pete A Turner and Patrick Richardson live on the Break It Down Show. Chuck has been working long days a...
2023-04-26
58 min
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Arch Gibson - Wasape: Life of a Comanche Warrior
Arch Gibson - Wasape: Life of a Comanche Warrior - Today's features author Arch Gibson. Arch is inspired by the work of author Craig Johnson. They each describe the American west and Native American culture and ethnicity. Arch Gibson has been a writer, editor and publications manager most of his professional life. He was raised in Arkansas City, Kansas and learned reporting under the guidance of his father, a WWII veteran and seasoned newsman. Arch's newspaper career began after college as a reporter/photographer for the Chronicle News in Trinidad, Colorado. Here's Arche's author page on Amazon Arch's website is T...
2023-04-18
51 min
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Benjamin Barton – Credentialed Court
Benjamin Barton – Credentialed Court - Professor Ben Barton is the author of five books: Credentialed Court, Fixing Law Schools, Rebooting Justice, Glass Half Full: The Decline and Rebirth of the Legal Profession, and The Lawyer-Judge Bias in the American courts. His fifth book, The Credentialed Court: Inside the Cloistered, Elite World of American Justice, was published in 2022. Get Credentialed Court on Amazon at Benjamin is joined by Pete A Turner and Dan McLaughlin. Coincidentally, Dan has authored and teaches a class on the supreme court. This is Benjamin's first appearance on the Break It Down Show. Please support the Break It...
2023-03-20
1h 02
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Dan Joseph – Pete Reiser Baseball’s Greatest What If
Dan Joseph – Pete Reiser Baseball’s Greatest What If - Dan Joseph is an author of a wide variety of books. He's written about Al Qaeda's partnership with Al-Shabaab. Dan next tackles Lou Gehrig's final full season. Dan's book examines Lou as his body begins to show signs of ALS the disease that would kill Gehrig less than 3 years later. Get Dan's book at Dan's latest book is titled Baseball’s Greatest What If: The Story and Tragedy of Pistol Pete Reiser. Pete Reiser was a Brooklyn Dodger great who played like a Hall of Famer, until WWII and his reckle...
2023-03-06
1h 01
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Jeremy McKane - ULTRAMARINE 30/30 Mission
Jeremy McKane - ULTRAMARINE 30/30 Mission - Jeremy McKane is an Artist with a background in technology. At 18, he found himself working in a startup that would one day become (for a time) the world’s largest web hosting provider. Today the company is known as NTT VERIO. In that time the internet promised potential uses that we take for granted today. It was this early experience that provided an alternate perspective. As an artist, McKane’s work has been shown around the world that often includes a mixture of technology and thought-provoking imagery about our oceans. McKane uses Art to enga...
2023-03-01
1h 03
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Cody Wood - US Team Penning Association
Cody Wood - US Team Penning Association - The USTPA is the National Governing Body for the sports of Team Penning and Ranch Sorting. As the only international non-profit Association in the sports, the USTPA was formed in 1993 and now proudly represents Team Penners and Ranch Sorters from around the world. As a membership-based organization, the USTPA represents riders off all ages and riding abilities. Get more on USTPA at: Cody Wood is BACK! This time he's talking about his latest rodeo-centric venture. Team Penning is a competitive form of getting animals, in this case cattle into a pen in...
2023-02-21
1h 07
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Stuart Scheller - Always Faithful
Stuart Scheller - Always Faithful - USMC commander Stuart Scheller rose to prominence in the fall of 2021. The botched withdrawal of US forces based upon the decisions of US President Biden and his advisors delivered a national disgrace for the nation. On Aug 26, Scheller sat at his desk, as a commander, in uniform and posted a video challenging the system and leadership that failed all Americans over the past 20 years. The system hates to have hit's failure brought to the fore. Many of you have seen BIDS episodes examining why we failed to perform in Iraq and Afghanistan. Previously, we h...
2023-02-14
59 min
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Chris Tapp - The Cold Stares Introduce Bryce Klueh
Chris Tapp - The Cold Stares Introduce Bryce Klueh - Chris Tapp returns to the Break It Down Show to talk with Pete A Turner and Jon Leon Guerrero about the Cold Stares new bassist, Bryce Klueh. Bryce takes the long time duo of Brian and Chris and turns them into a power trio. A quick shout to Brad Hutchings who pops in for a few...and is a HUGE supporter of both the band and the show. We always love Brad!!! If you're not up to speed on the Cold Stares go to www.thecoldstares.com or follow on Ins...
2023-02-09
1h 01
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Stuart Scheller and Matt Hoh – On Ukraine and US Tension
Stuart Scheller and Matt Hoh – On Ukraine and US Tension - Stuart Scheller and Matt Hoh each publicly called out US officials, leaders and commanders pertaining to the failure of the country's efforts in Afghanistan. Beyond their public criticism, each of them have their own professional capacity to assess a regional conflict like a Ukrainian v Russian border conflict. Stu and Matt are BACK! to dive into this complicated topic. Further, and we're quoting Pete A Turner, "Whether or not the US needs to involve itself is not the question. It's really, 'Given the US' completely incapacity to adapt and wi...
2023-02-07
1h 32
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Lawrence Loh - Symphoria and Conducting the Pops
Lawrence Loh - Symphoria and Conducting the Pops - Lawrence Loh, Music Director of Symphoria (Syracuse, NY), was named Music Director of the West Virginia Symphony commencing in the 2017-18 season. Mr. Loh concluded his 12-year tenure as Music Director of the Northeastern Pennsylvania Philharmonic in 2017. Mr. Loh has had a decade-plus association with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra where he currently leads annual pops and other select programs. The link for Macon Pops is: Joining Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show is co-host and fellow Benician Steve Moretti. Steve has been a guest on BIDS previously...and h...
2023-01-31
1h 07
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Eric Rojo – The Most Interesting Man in the World
Eric Rojo – The Most Interesting Man in the World - Eric Rojo is an internationally recognized security and risk consultant. His pedigree is top-notch and we're all in for a treat. Known security, terrorism and political analyst for various media organizations and regular feature writer for the magazine “Seguridad Americas”, and published in others. Security/ political analyst and business analyst for various national and international TV and radio stations, (TV AZTECA, MSNBC, CNN, CNN en Español, Fox News, RAI Italy, NTN24 Colombia, Univision, BBC Americas, Telemundo, Televisa, Radio America, Voice of America, RTN Latin America, HINN, CNN Radio, RTN Russia...
2023-01-30
1h 00
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Matt Hoh - Standing Tall, and Surviving War
Matt Hoh - Standing Tall, and Surviving War - Matt Hoh has been a Senior Fellow with the Center for International Policy since 2010. In 2009, Matthew resigned in protest from his post in Afghanistan with the State Department over the American escalation of the war. Prior to his assignment in Afghanistan, Matthew took part in the American occupation of Iraq. For more on Matt check out One of the things that stands out about Hoh is his willingness to publically call out the US State Department and its failure in Zabul province. Coincidentally, Pete A Turner served in Zabul as well...
2023-01-24
1h 08
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Dan McLaughlin - American Slavery in the Global Context
Dan McLaughlin - American Slavery in the Global Context - Dan McLaughlin and WIlfred Reilly Join Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show to discuss the history of American slavery. The history of slavery involves all cultures from ancient times to today. Dan McLaughlin's essay in the most recent edition of the National Review leads the conversation amongst a series of articles discussing slavery, history and the place the US holds in the conversation. Check out the National Review's issues and Dan's essay at Joining the conversation is our friend Wil Reilly, who coincidentally has also penned a...
2023-01-20
1h 02
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Robert Greenberg – Music, Tower of Power, Life
Robert Greenberg – Music, Tower of Power, Life - From the very beginning of the Break It Down Show, we've loved Robert Greenberg. Over the course of 1200+ episodes we've explored everything with Dr. Bob. When Pete A Turner's dad Bob died, they sorted out life and music. When Dr Bob's dad died, the fellas got together. Jon Leon Guerrero and Pete connected with Dissect podcasts Cole Kuchna they discovered that Cole was also a fan of Dr Bob--You know what happened next. They blew Cole's mind by sitting the two of them down for a great episode of BIDS. Your life wi...
2023-01-16
59 min
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Shelley Klingerman – Project Never Broken/Stiletto Agency
Shelley Klingerman – Project Never Broken/Stiletto Agency - Shelley Klingerman is the CEO of the Stiletto Agency. She's focused on training women how to be safe when they travel etc. She's been on the Break It Down Show a number of times and she's cohosted some of our most successful episodes. We even had a serial killer call in unexpectedly on the show during one of her cohosting sessions. Get Shelley’s book Vigilance on Amazon at: Get more on Project Never Broken at: Shelley, like Pete A Turner, lost her brother in 2021. Greg was murdered while Greg was on duty...
2023-01-10
57 min
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Joe Posnanski - Baseball Hall of Fame
Joe Posnanski - Baseball Hall of Fame – Celebrated sportswriter Joe Posnanski has been named Sportswriter of the year by 5 different organizations. He's widely recognized as the best sportswriter of his generation. Joe returns to the Break It Down Show to discuss the Baseball Hall of Fame, the 2022 class inductees and BBWAA ballot. Joe's Substack is the best source for his thoughts on the hall of fame. We're sure Pete will find new caverns in the incredible mind of Joe. One of the things we learned in our episode featuring Rob Neyer and Dan McLaughlin was that there's some uncertainty on wh...
2022-12-28
1h 04
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Brian Curtice – Fossil Crates, Dinosaurs and Digging
Brian Curtice – Fossil Crates, Dinosaurs and Digging - Paleontologist Dr Brian Curtice was in the news recently discussing title of the longest dinosaur after analyzing Supersaurus bones in Colorado. Brian works the Arizona Natural History Museum and is currently focused on the Shellenberger Canyon Paleontological Project examining the only terrestrial community of organisms known from the early Cretaceous of Arizona. COVID created a neat idea for Brian. His business is called Fossil Crates. Since museums etc were closed during the height of the pandemic, he realized it was possible to bring the museum to the masses. Most of a collection is...
2022-12-23
1h 04
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Brad Hutchings - Hanging with Jon, Pete and the Break It Down Show Family
Brad Hutchings - Hanging with Jon, Pete and the Break It Down Show Family – Sometimes here on the Break It Down Show, and in fact in life as well, we like to take things slow. This episode Is just that, a kind of laid-back ep about three friends talking as if they were getting coffee. So, enjoy the discussions of our OL Pedro, Brad Hutchings and Jon Leon Guerrero, pour yourself a cup of coffee, or other beverage of your choice, kick back and relax, and if you wanna take it up an extra notch, cross your legs on the ta...
2022-12-19
1h 02
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Joshua Martin – Martin Shapes, Handcrafted Family
Joshua Martin – Martin Shapes, Handcrafted Family - Joshua Martin makes things with his hands. His father also made things with his hands. Surfboards to be more precise. Terry Martin is a noted shaper in the surfing world, working for Hobie Alter. His application? a finished surfboard. Joshua learned at a variety of surf shops throughout the years, working with his dad, and eventually realizing an innate sense for the shapes of things. Joshua, with the lessons from his father he's created his own business, Martin Shapes, and boy does he make incredible things. From Chopsticks to surfboards, Joshua's creative mind is...
2022-12-16
1h 01
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Thomas Colbert - The Case Breakers, DB Cooper Update
Thomas Colbert - The Case Breakers, DB Cooper Update - Tomas' Case Breakers are changing how cold cases are being dealt with. If you want to learn more check out casebreakers.org Look for the documentaries from the Case Breakers on your local streaming platform. Previously, Thomas Colbert briefed us on the Zodiac case giving us more details about the evidence they've collected. Today, we're focused on DB Cooper as updates to that cold case. Check out for more details We're joined by Erik Kleinsmith who is one of Tom's Case Breakers assets. Erik, as many of you know, was Pe...
2022-12-15
1h 00
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Chucho Escoto – Petgas, Plastic Waste Becomes Fuel
Chucho Escoto – Petgas, Plastic Waste Becomes Fuel - Chucho Escoto is working to solve two problems at once. His company Petgas takes shredded waste plastic and converts into fuel. The process is called Pyrolysis and it's one of the many efforts to solve the plastic waste problem...with plastic waste having value as an up-cycled fuel, we can now work to further extend the value of the petrochemicals we extract. To learn about Petgas head to Maybe this view of lengthening the usefulness of petro-based products will get us over the hump and start working to not only make this a...
2022-11-29
1h 02
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Chelsea Rustrum - Web 3.0, Blockchain and the Metaverse
Chelsea Rustrum - Web 3.0, Blockchain and the Metaverse - We're welcoming Chelsea Rustrum, founder, author and futurist to tomorrow’s Break It Down Show. This is Chelsea's first visit to BIDS, but she appeared on Popping the Bubbl previously. Chelsea is a crypto-insider who discusses things like the evolution to Web 3.0 from web 2.0, the sharing economy, and the early foundations of blockchain. Check out Chelsea on Popping the Bubbl at: As we continue to explore crypto on BIDS, Pete A Turner always leans on Sandra Ponce DeLeon's network to bring us people who are well past wondering if blockchain is a...
2022-11-28
53 min
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Burt Whitlow - US Army Counterintelligence
Burt Whitlow - US Army Counterintelligence - Burt Whitlow is one of Pete's friends from their time at D Co, 165th MI Bn. They worked at the same field office in Hanau Germany. One of the things that's makes these shows so interesting is the era where these two counterintelligence agents were in the Army. The Cold War was over and getting further into the past. CI Agents were going more strategic. The US wasn't going to wars anymore. As the military sought to change CI the Dayton Peace Accords were authored. That means putting NATO troops on the ground...
2022-11-24
58 min
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Rob Neyer – New Baseball Rules
Rob Neyer – New Baseball Rules - Rob Neyer has written numerous books, millions of words on ESPN, and countless interviews about baseball. He's also serves as the commissioner of the West Coast League. MLB continues to evolve as teams work to find advantages in math, the gym and by improving the minor leagues. The league is working to improve the game to serve a modern audience. In between these two elements is the 100+ year legacy of a league that in many ways still resembles the game played in the 1800's. Get Rob’s book Power Ball on Amazon at: As MLB...
2022-11-21
1h 02
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Dr Sujay Johnson Cook - My Fabulous Fifth Chapter: It’s My Turn Now!
Dr Sujay Johnson Cook - My Fabulous Fifth Chapter: It’s My Turn Now! - Dr Sujay Johnson Cook is a force. She's had a vast career with a LOT of success. She's released her 15th and 16th books, My Fabulous Fifth Chapter: It’s My Turn Now! (Pub Date Oct 2021) Ambassador Sujay explains that there are Five Chapters in life. Get Dr. Johnson’s new book My Fabulous Fifth Chapter: It's My Turn Now! On Amazon at: Pete A Turner is proud to present Sujay and her incredible life and work here on the Break It Down Show. We try ha...
2022-10-31
59 min
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Kevin McNamara – Raised in Detroit
Kevin McNamara – Raised in Detroit - Kevin McNamara was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan. Kevin has been praised in articles by The Detroit News and Free Press for his characters and skit writing, as well as his energy on stage. In September of 2008 Kevin made the move from Detroit to Los Angeles in order to take the next step into television and film. Kevin is known for his role as series regular "Luther Montague" on the FOX Digital series "Suit Up" as well as roles on TV series Cold Case and Justified. This is Kevin's 1st appearance on the Br...
2022-10-25
1h 01
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Marc Polymeropoulos – Clarity in Crisis
Marc Polymeropoulos – Clarity in Crisis - Marc Polymeropoulos worked for 26 years at the CIA before retiring in July 2019 at the Senior Intelligence Service level. He was one of CIA’s most highly decorated operations officers who served in multiple field assignments for the U.S. government. He specialized in counterterrorism, the Middle East and South Asia, including extensive time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Prior to his retirement, Marc served at CIA headquarters and was in charge of CIA’s clandestine operations in Europe and Eurasia. He frequently comments on international events in the US media, including the Washington Post, The New Yo...
2022-10-21
1h 06
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Thomas Colbert - Gary Poste, Zodiac Killer Update
Thomas Colbert - Gary Poste, Zodiac Killer Update - Thomas Colbert's team called the Case Breakers has broken the Zodiac killer case. Over the last 50+ years the Zodiac Killer has tormented, eluded and mystified criminal investigators. Recently, the Break It Down Show broke the news that the Case Breakers had revealed that Gary Poste was the killer. We've spoken with Erik Kleinsmith and Jennifer Bucholtz in separate episodes covering the Case Breakers work. Today the leader of the group, Thomas Colbert joins Pete a Turner EXCLUSIVELY to discuss Zodiac one last time. Here’s the team’s website: There at many...
2022-10-17
55 min
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Craig Johnson – Daughter of the Morning Star
Craig Johnson – Daughter of the Morning Star - Craig Johnson has written some of the most successful crime novels in the past 20 years. His series featuring the Sheriff Longmire has created a franchise series on Netflix. Craig's latest book is another from Absoroka County's resident tough hombre Sheriff Walt Longmire, and is titled Daughter of the Morning Star. Get his new book Daughter of the Morning Star on Amazon at: This is Craig's 2nd visit to the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner. Our guest co-host is Hunter Baker!!! Johnson and Baker are going to team up and he...
2022-10-14
1h 01
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Patrick Richardson – The State of Reporting
Patrick Richardson – The State of Reporting - Patrick Richardson breaks news. Patrick has been a working journalist since 1992 at community papers across Kansas and for the last 10 years as an editor for newspapers in Southeast Kansas, Northeast Oklahoma, and Southwest Missouri. As a freelancer, he has also broken major stories for national outlets. He currently blogs at and can be reached at: prichardson@stoppinginflyovercountry.com. He was born in Wichita, raised in Southwest Kansas and currently lives in extreme southeast Kansas, with his wife, two Great Danes, an English Bulldog and 10 grandchildren. Patrick is a buddy of Pete A Turner an...
2022-10-05
1h 11
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Jeff Gottesfeld – Twenty-One Steps
Jeff Gottesfeld – Twenty-One Steps - Jeff Gottesfeld is an acclaimed writer whose work has won awards from the American Library Association, the Writers Guild of America, and the National Council for the Social Studies. He has previously written for adult, teen, middle-grade, and picture book audiences. Jeff's new book describes how with every step the Tomb Guards pay homage to America’s fallen. Young readers can discover their story, and that of the unknown soldiers they honor, through resonant words and illustrations. Get Jeff’s book Twenty-One Steps on Amazon at: Pete A Turner and the Break It Down Show celebr...
2022-09-30
41 min
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James Rosebush – Reagan Staff Member on US Affairs
James Rosebush – Reagan Staff Member on US Affairs - James Rosebush a senior Reagan staff member checks in with Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. James and Pete are going to discuss the current state of affairs in the US, whether its regionally, nationally or around the globe. James' experience working with the 40th president and many subsequent administrations makes in a marvelous resource that links the top level of the government to the ground truth where OL Pedro plays. This is the 3rd visit for James on the Break It Down Show, so enjoy the episode! Ple...
2022-09-29
1h 02
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Todd Bensman – Ukraine War Hits the US Border
Todd Bensman – Ukraine War Hits the US Border – Todd Bensman is an expert in immigration, and in particular how to circumvent the US's reckless approach to immigration policy. Todd is a Senior National Security Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies. This is Todd's second visit with Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. Get Todd's incredible book America's Covert Border War at Amazon Todd returns to the Break It Down Show to discuss his most recent article discussing the influx of Ukrainians at the southern US border. As tensions rose between Ukraine and Russia in early 2022, Ukrainians began...
2022-09-13
58 min
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Mike Guardia – The Combat Diaries of World War II –
Mike Guardia – The Combat Diaries of World War II – Mike Guardia writes military themed books that cover history, biographies and a variety of other subjects in the genre. The Combat Diaries tells stories, mostly untold, of the people who actually performed the operation and battles. From Normandy to Iwo Jima. True tales of combat…on land, sea, and air. Get his book The Combat Diaries of WW II on Amazon at: Members of the Greatest Generation are leaving us at the rate of several hundred per day. Indeed, the youngest World War II veterans are now in their nineties. The Combat...
2022-09-11
54 min
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Juan Escovedo - Debut Album, Legendary Family, Percussion Maestro
Juan Escovedo - Debut Album, Legendary Family, Percussion Maestro - Juan Escovedo is a musicians musician. He comes from the first family of percussion and he’s played with the best of the best. His touring and recording credits include Prince, Herbie Hancock, Lionel Richie, Raphael Saadiq, and of course the E Family and his own projects The Juan Escovedo Orchestra, Seven Days, and The Funky Latin Orchestra. Get everything about Juan at: But in the midst of such a prolific career as an accompanist, Juan has waited until now to release his debut solo album. This is Juan's 3 visit to...
2022-09-02
55 min
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Finlay Cowan – Album Covers for Muse, Pink Floyd, etc
Finlay Cowan – Album Covers for Muse, Pink Floyd, etc - Finlay Cowan is an artist whose work we all recognize. Even if you've managed to not see a Pink Floyd or Muse album cover...there are dozens of other projects that establish Finlay as one of the most important artist of the past 50 years. Check out Finlay’s work at: Finlay comes to Pete A Turner and the Break It Down Show by way of our man Wes Maebe. Wes is obviously a huge part of the show...but so is Jon Klein. Jon has spent decades creating dreams for thei...
2022-08-30
1h 16
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Ryan Hellquist – Staying Alive, Weapons and Movies
Ryan Hellquist – Staying Alive, Weapons and Movies -The recent tragedy on the set of Rust left one crew member dead, another wounded and many lives permanently damaged. When Alec Baldwin pulled that trigger, the questions and accusations flew. For many of us, this is this tragedy took us back the the set of the Crow and the tragic death of Brandon Lee. Was this preventable? Is this a homicide? Who is at fault. Pete A Turner and the Break It Down Show deliver actor Ryan Hellquist to discuss the steps taken to keep a set safe. When someone hands an ac...
2022-08-25
1h 02
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Mike Waltz – FL 6 and Mary McLeod Bethune
Mike Waltz – FL 6 and Mary McLeod Bethune - US Representative to Congress Mike Waltz returns to the Break It Down Show. We've examined, for years, the Afghanistan fight...now that the US has lost and the Biden administration has botched the withdrawal...we're talking to former Green Beret turned legislator Waltz to help us understand what congress is doing to hold folks accountable. It's one thing to have members of Congress speaking about military affairs and responsibilities with limited knowledge of what it takes to organize and deploy a fighting force...it's a whole different thing when you've got a bri...
2022-08-21
29 min
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Jan Neumann – FSB Agent Escapes & Comes to America
Jan Neumann – FSB Agent Escapes & Comes to America - Jan and Victorya Neumann were trained spies working in the FSB. The FSB is a successor to the KGB of old. As things spiraled up, Jan began to put the pieces together...he knew too much. They get got word, he was a marked man and death was on the way. Jan and Victorya grabbed their things, made an escape plan worthy of any spy movie and worked their way out of danger. Their story is incredible...but it's true. A real life spy film played out across international borders, and it...
2022-08-19
59 min
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Lisa Gable – Turnaround
Lisa Gable – Turnaround - Lisa is recognized worldwide as a turnaround mastermind and innovative businesswoman. For more than 30 years, she has been called to turnaround failing organizations—businesses, teams, nonprofits, political campaigns, and government projects—and solve seemingly intractable problems. Get more on Lisa at: Get Lisa’s book on Amazon at: This is Lisa's first appearance on the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner. Also, this is Todd Hester's first appearance on the Break It Down Show as a cohost. And this is Pete’s 1089th time of making a fun show! Please support the Break It Down Show...
2022-08-09
1h 00
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Jennifer Bucholtz - Breaking Cold Cases
Jennifer Bucholtz - Breaking Cold Cases - As many of you know Erik Kleinsmith was Pete's commander during their deployment to Bosnia. Shortly after that Pete returned to Ft Huachuca to train new spies, where Jennifer Bucholtz went for initial training. Then she joined the CIA, and earned two Master's degrees in the discipline. So you heard it, Jennifer Bucholtz joins Pete A Turner and Erik Kleinsmith in a #SpyVsSpy episode. Get ready, we're gonna get trade crafty. Please support the Break It Down Show by doing a monthly subscription to the show All of the money you invest goes di...
2022-07-18
1h 05
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Erik Kleinsmith – Ukraine, Russia and Zodiac
Erik Kleinsmith – Ukraine, Russia and Zodiac - Erik Kleinsmith returns to the Break It Down Show with Pete A Turner. Erik is coming to discuss the ongoing Ukrainian vs Russian conflict. As the Russians seek to apply pressure in the East, and the West works to provisions the Ukrainians, who does the dance between the nations work to minimize expansion while seeking to bring to an end the most recent European conflict. Erik is also going to provide us a brief Case Breakers update. The Case Breakers have been busy the past year cracking the Zodiac case naming Gary Poste as...
2022-07-14
1h 19
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Phil Green – ALS Cure Project
Phil Green – ALS Cure Project - Phil Green is Pete's friend. Recently he was diagnosed with ALS. On the Break It Down Show, Pete A Turner has been checking in with Phil as he progressed through the terminal disease. As we chronicle Phil's progression, we've learned quite a bit about ALS. We've also been proud of our friend Phil as he works relentlessly to knock down the barriers between science, the government, and the afflicted. Head to ALS Cure Project Phil is surprisingly independent for someone bound to a wheelchair. He and Pete recently went on an 1100 mile road trip in...
2022-07-05
1h 09
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Winston Vickers – The Survival of the California Mountain Lion
Winston Vickers – The Survival of the California Mountain Lion - Winston Vickers studies big cats in California. Pumas, mountain lions etc are his sweet spot. Winston's efforts help us understand what it take to keep California's ecosystem in a healthy balance between predator, prey and homes on the edges of big cat habitat. Check out to learn all about the work being done to save mountain lions from...us. Winston does research for UC Davis...where he tracks, relocates and tries to reckon with the variables big cats deal with on a daily basis. Winston joins Pete A Turner and Da...
2022-06-14
1h 01
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David Howe - US Army, Afghanistan and the Military Abroad
David Howe - US Army, Afghanistan and the Military Abroad - COL David Howe joins Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. COL Howe and Pete worked together in Afghanistan. Their work in AFG provides us with some powerful insight on the current state of the AFG retreat...and why things went so poorly. Beyond AFG, David has worked on issues in Africa, and is currently in the Pacific theater. One of the great things about having guests from Pete's past is the context and experience these guests provide...and the expertise that comes with these experiences. You...
2022-06-03
59 min
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Lisa Jackson - The Great Resignation
Lisa Jackson - The Great Resignation - Lisa Jackson is an expert on corporate culture. One of the emerging trends, as we battle through multiple challenges borne out of the COIVD virus, is the growing challenge of hiring and retaining talent in corporate America. A fascinating aspect of this is the "Great Resignation" phenomenon. Get more about Lisa's work at Lisa Jackson has been on the Break It Down Show previously. She and Pete A Turner discuss this emerging trend to avoid tradition work places for something better. Employees and people seeking work are valuing their time and freedom more...
2022-05-25
1h 06
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John Green - The Counselor of Afghanistan
John Green - The Counselor of Afghanistan - John Green returns to the Break It Down Show to talk about his experiences in Afghanistan. Pete A Turner and John go back about 15 years...they've both found incredible things throughout their time. Most importantly, John's experience is rooted in the Ground Truth...his tales will reveal why the US lost in both Afghanistan and Iraq. John has worked for bosses of all ranks and services. Be sure to check out the other 2 episodes that John has joined us for. You'll find them in the Similar episodes section below. One more thing...yo...
2022-05-18
59 min
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Dee C Lee – Soul, Rhythm and Blues
Dee C Lee – Soul, Rhythm and Blues - Dee C Lee is a highly successful recording artist who has been at the heart of the British Soul and R & B music scene for more than thirty years. With her distinctive and entrancing vocal tone, she has performed with chart-topping acts, including Wham!, Animal Nightlife, The Style Council, Guru and Mother Earth. As well as writing her own hits, such as the acclaimed ballad See The Day (revived in a cover by Girls Aloud). You can visit Dee C Lee's website BTW Dee announced on the show, she's just agreed to a...
2022-04-26
53 min
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Brian Mullins - The Cold Stares, Heavy Shoes
Brian Mullins - The Cold Stares, Heavy Shoes - On his recent road trip, Pete A Turner stopped in at @The Cold Stares studio with Drummer Brian Mullins. If you love all-American Blues based rock and roll...it's the Cold Stares. The band's new album is called Heavy Shoes. Pete and Brian get into topics that get beyond what sticks does he use, and the challenges of running a small band. Instead, Brian and Pete get deep and reveal things about that band you won't hear anywhere else. Chris Tapp is the lead singer and guitar player for the band. Wat...
2022-04-13
57 min
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John Langellier - Southwest History and Scouting with Buffalo Soldiers
John Langellier - Southwest History and Scouting with Buffalo Soldiers - John P. Langellier is a historian from Tucson. John is a prolific author who's written a LOT of books. His latest covers one of the Buffalo Soldier units from Southern Arizona. It's an interesting note that Buffalo Soldier is not a very descriptive term. US units throughout the west employed black soldiers in a variety of capacities...but damn did they do it well in the Ft. Bowie/Huachuca region. You will LOVE his latest book Scouting with the Buffalo Soldiers: Lieutenant Powhatan Clarke, Frederic Remington, and the Tenth...
2022-04-07
45 min
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Steven Greenhut - Winning the Water Wars in California
Steven Greenhut - Winning the Water Wars in California - Steven Greenhut is an investigative reporter who's looked into a variety of topics in his career. He's written for over a dozen papers, testified as an expert in court and is generally a badass writer speaking truth to power. Steven's book talks about a pathway for California that leans on abundance rather than a shortage of water. Check out our episode with Megan Konar, it's an excellent companion episode for this one. Greenhut's latest book is called Winning the Water Wars: California can meet its water needs by promoting abundance...
2022-03-18
58 min
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Nate Nelson - Stacking Air Support and Living
Nate Nelson - Stacking Air Support and Living - United States Air Force Captain Nathan Nelson suffered a spinal cord injury from a rocket blast in Afghanistan. He has no movement below his chest and limited use of his hands. Captain Nelson was part of a special operations team that took heavy fire in September of 2013 during his third tour in Afghanistan. Luckily, none of his fellow soldiers were injured in the attack. He was immediately flown back to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, and, after a dozen surgeries, he’s working through rehabilitation. He was then sent to Ja...
2022-03-15
59 min
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The DOC - No Longer Carrying the Pain
The DOC - No Longer Carrying the Pain - Growing up in the 80's means that Pete A Turner and his age peers witnessed the birth of Rap and Hip Hop. One of the most influential bands of all time was born in that era. NWA, exploded on the scene with raps that wound founded in Dr Dre's sample-centric beats and the magic of Ice Cube and The DOC's raps. Part of the evolution of DOC is re-acquiring Tracy Curry. As an adult, over time, growing evolving, AND recognizing the impact women have played on his life. In the episode, h...
2022-03-09
46 min
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David Eubank - Free Burma Rangers
David Eubank - Free Burma Rangers - The Free Burma Rangers (FBR) is a multi-ethnic humanitarian service movement working to bring help, hope and love to people in the conflict zones of Burma, Iraq, and Sudan. Working in conjunction with local ethnic pro-democracy groups, FBR trains, supplies, and later coordinates with what become highly mobile multipurpose relief teams. After training these teams provide critical emergency medical care, shelter, food, clothing and human rights documentation in their home regions. Find out more on FBR at: Get David’s book Do This for Love on Amazon at: There's a lot of strife, ha...
2022-03-02
1h 11
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John Murray – Counterintelligence Agent Abroad
John Murray – Counterintelligence Agent Abroad - John Murray and Pete A Turner were both Counterintelligence Agents in the 165th Military Intelligence Battalion. During their tour in Germany, the Dayton Peace Accords attempted to border peace in the crumbling and lethal Balkans. As members of the IFOR forces deployed to ensure that peace, the 165th deployed and scattered around the region. Deployed as the initial force, folks like John and Pete had to venture off the camp daily to figure out the ground truth in their specific region. In the US military, small teams like theirs are the exception. Some units ev...
2022-02-25
1h 17
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Erik Kleinsmith - DB Cooper, Hoffa, Zodiac, Cracking the Coldest Cases
Erik Kleinsmith - DB Cooper, Hoffa, Zodiac, Cracking the Coldest Cases - Erik Kleinsmith Erik has authored books on intelligence analysis, found the 9/11 hijackers BEFORE 9/11, helped solve the DB Cooper case...and a lot more. Erik used to be Pete A Turner's commander in Bosnia when they were in the might 165th MI Bn. You'd imagine that commanding a company of spies would be the pinnacle of one's career, but that's just the beginning... Erik returns to the Break It Down Show. It's always a good time when we get to hear from him. Please support the Break It Down S...
2022-02-15
1h 01
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Dave Matheny – The Silencer Shop
Dave Matheny – The Silencer Shop - Dave Matheny founded the Silencer Shop. It's interesting when we hear the word silencer for guns, we have images in our head that likely have no bearing in reality. For most people, the next time they see a silencer in real life, will be the first time. To learn more head to the SIlencer Shops website For most people, silencers are something from the movies, yet for many Americans, suppressors are a part of a normal range day. Dave joins Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show to demystify silencers and help us...
2022-02-04
55 min
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Nathan Gorenstein – The Guns of John Browning
Nathan Gorenstein – The Guns of John Browning - Nathan Gorenstein offers the first major biography of John Moses Browning, “the Thomas Edison of guns,” brings to life a visionary inventor whose astonishing array of firearms have shaped American culture and armed the world’s militaries for more than a century. Get Nathan's book on Amazon at Visit Nathan's website Gorenstein joins Pete A Turner, on the Break It Down Show...and you're gonna love it. BTW in addition to Pete A Turner, Jim DeFelice joins as cohost. Jim has his own work on the history of guns in the US. One more...
2022-01-27
1h 04
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Pete A Turner – Customary Disregard for Religion
Pete A Turner – Customary Disregard for Religion - Sometimes, Pete A Turner is the guest on the Break It Down Show. Our host for this episode is Dr Wilfred Reilly. Wil is covering Pete and Dr Rich Ledet's recent academic article discussing the impact of religion on operations in Conflict Zones. This article was published in The Challenge to NATO Global Security and the Atlantic Alliance get this book at Amazon at Here's an excerpt from the Abstract - Abstract This paper examines the relationship between religion and political development in the context of recent military operations in predominantly Islamic co...
2022-01-17
1h 21
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Mike Guardia - Skybreak, the 58th Fighter Squadron
Mike Guardia - Skybreak, the 58th Fighter Squadron - Mike Guardia returns to the Break It Down Show to talk military history with Pete A Turner. Mike cranks out books at a pace that makes us shudder. We'll discuss the 58th Fighter Squadron, the top MiG Killers of Operation Desert Storm. To support Eric J Turner’s family, go to the donation link: or hit Pete on FB, DM etc. Get Mike’s book Skybreak on Amazon at: August 1990: Iraqi forces under the command of Saddam Hussein invaded the tiny emirate of Kuwait. Within hours, the Kuwaiti defenses collapsed under the...
2022-01-14
59 min
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Jon Klein - Guitarist for Siouxsie, Specimen and Sinead O'Connor
Jon Klein - Guitarist for Siouxsie, Specimen and Sinead O'Connor - Jon Klein is a producer and multi instrumentalist. His career started in the 70's playing with several seminal and influential bands in the Post Punk family of genres. Apparently, he also likes to play in bands with S's...Siouxsie, Sinead, Shriekback, Specimen, Space Tribe... Connect with Jon on FB Jon's found success all over the world, producing music for a wide variety of clients. He's charted in Spain with Fangoria, and among other things currently plays in Micko and the Mellotronics. Pete A Turner, Jon Leon Guerrero and our...
2021-12-31
1h 03
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Irina Skaya – Comedy LIVE on Stage
Irina Skaya – Comedy LIVE on Stage - Irina Skaya is a comedian who's taken over LA. Her windy road to the big league of comedy began in Ukraine, where she’s born. She grew up in Tucson Arizona. Then she traveled to London and studied theatre, film, and creative writing. Irina moved to Los Angeles a few years ago to pursue standup. She's worked all the big LA clubs and is ready to get back on stage again soon. These comedy episodes are brought to you by Save the Brave. Now, the NEW! Bastards Canteen location in Temecula is open and...
2021-12-26
1h 00
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Chase Hughes - Advanced Human Skills, Influence and Persuasion
Chase Hughes - Advanced Human Skills, Influence and Persuasion - Chase Hughes is a leader in the intelligence and human dynamics space. Chase spent almost a decade deciphering the human matrix. In an effort to locate the farthest 'wall' where human influence ended, Chase discovered that it didn't. He began to develop a map for influence and behavior profiling to enable people in our agencies to read humans, and influence their behavior. Get Chase’s latest book Six-Minute X-Ray on Amazon at: Get more on him at: Chase became disturbingly aware of serious issues that plagued our intelligence operations. From in...
2021-12-12
1h 03
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Cork Graham - 5 Acres and a Moose
Cork Graham - 5 Acres and a Moose - In 1983, long before Cork Graham became a team leader on Discovery Channel's hit series TREASURE QUEST, he burst onto the international scene, not as an author, but as a photojournalist. As a fresh out-of-high school, 18-year-old combat photographer, he cut his teeth on the Kampuchea/Vietnam War and Hmong resistance in Laos. Get more on Cork at Check out his other website: Cork Graham is a direct descendant of Mayflower passengers Edward Fuller and his son Samuel, and David Graham and his son Andrew, Colonial Army veterans of the Battle of Kings...
2021-12-06
1h 07
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Bill Mankins - Trapped in Afghanistan
Bill Mankins - Trapped in Afghanistan - Bill has visited the show several times. Each time delivering incredible insight into Afghanistan. As the US and her coalition partners work to extract their citizens and Afghans, we must not lose sight of what it takes to succeed in overseas operations...and how quickly failed policy decisions can unravel any hope for success. Afghanistan experts Bill Mankins and Pete A Turner discuss elements of the latest phase of operations in Afghanistan. Currently, there are still an unknown number of Americans, visa-holding Afghans and people US coalition partners are desperate to get out...
2021-11-29
1h 19
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DW Wilber – Under Cover for the CIA
DW Wilber – Under Cover for the CIA - Del W. Wilber brings over thirty years of experience in Security and Counterterrorism as a former Intelligence Officer serving with the Central Intelligence Agency and the Department of Defense in Eastern and Western Europe, and the Middle East, and in law enforcement. His expertise took him to Iraq from 2004-2007 where he served as an advisor for counterterrorism and counter-IED operations to the Commanding General, U.S. Army Multi-National Corps – Iraq. Get DW's Book In the Shadow of the Swords: The Baghdad Police Academy Get more on Del on his website: Del is f...
2021-11-23
1h 02
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Mark Sullivan - The Last Green Valley
Mark Sullivan - The Last Green Valley - has authored lots and LOTS of books. He and Pete A Turner sit down and talk about his process, how growth and the latest book called, "". Get the last Green Valley on Amazon Mark's book tells the tale of the Martel's, a Ukrainian family who lives on the edge of survival in Stalinist Russia. Then things get worse and the Nazis stand between them and a new life. World War II books aren't just about tanks and paratroopers...this time it's about family. For the of this episode head to Please support the Bre...
2021-11-18
56 min
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Xander Bullock – The War Booty of the Taliban
Xander Bullock – The War Booty of the Taliban - COL Xander Bullock is a US Army officer who has served with the 101st Airborne Division, the 1st Infantry Division, I Corps HQ plans, MNC-I Plans and CFC-A Plans. COL Xander Bullock is a veteran of Bosnia/Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan and has been in service since 93. He is an active duty Colonel serving Brigade Command for the Corps of Engineers at the Seattle District. Xander Bullock joins us to discuss the process of determining what equipment is left in places like Afghanistan or Iraq. We've all seen the memes about the m...
2021-11-17
1h 07
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Johnny Walker - An American Hero
Johnny Walker - An American Hero - Johnny was born and raised in Iraq. When the US invaded Iraq, Johnny, who loved America started working as an interpreter with the US forces. Johnny worked with the MPs, then he was discovered by the SEALs for his true purpose in life. During a break between SEAL rotations, Pete A Turner was given Johnny Walker to use as an interpreter. Much of what they did still cannot be discussed openly...but damn there were some adventures. Get Johnny's incredible book "Code Name Johnny Walker" Johnny is a legend, a hero and now...
2021-10-22
48 min
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The Honorable Lewis Owens – Del Rio Texas, US-Mexico Border
The Honorable Lewis Owens – Del Rio Texas, US-Mexico Border - Del Rio Texas sits on the US/Mexico border 400 miles from El Paso, Dallas and Houston. The Honorable Lewis Owens is charged with handling this international focal point for human trafficking, drug smuggling, crime and immigration. Host Pete A Turner has been traveling along the border examining the Ground Truth to bring some honest coverage to the continued failure of US Immigration policies. Our guest, the Honorable Lewis Owens is constantly in the news as he and the Sheriff work to address the city/county needs as the crisis continues. Pl...
2021-10-13
55 min
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Morgan Lerette – Welcome to Blackwater
Morgan Lerette – Welcome to Blackwater - Morgan Lerette worked for Blackwater for 18 months, from 2004 to 2005. Upon his return to the United States, he completed his undergraduate degree at Northern Arizona University and commissioned as a U.S. Army intelligence officer. From 2009 to 2010, Lerette deployed back to Iraq. He left the Army as a captain, moved to Boston, and attended The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. Get Morgan's book on Amazon at Lerette wrote the book Welcome to Blackwater. The book is published by a veterans nonprofit, Onward Press, and all sales contribute to its mission to he...
2021-09-17
1h 04
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Jack Devine - SPYMASTER'S PRISM - Spy vs Spy
Jack Devine - SPYMASTER'S PRISM - Spy vs Spy - Jack Devine is the president of the Arkin Group, an international risk consulting and intelligence firm. He formerly served as acting director and associate director of operation at the CIA and was in charge of the CIA’s largest and most successful covert action operation which drove the Russians out of Afghanistan. He is the author of Good Hunting: An American Spymaster’s Story. He also has a new book SPYMASTER'S PRISM: The Fight against Russian Aggression. For more info on Jack head to Get Spymaster's Prism on Amazon at As ou...
2021-09-06
51 min
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John McKay - How Do We Get Better at This
John McKay - How Do We Get Better at This - John McKay, a retired USMC COL and master of international relations comes back to discuss with Pete our international entanglements. He has been on the Break It Down Show multiple times. Pete's question, hard to ask and germane is simple. "How do we get better at this?" This answer, while complex, also reveals the nature of international work. How does one or a country, "Get better at this?" There must be complexity because we see the results of a simplistic approach. Both Pete and John would like us to g...
2021-09-03
57 min
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Pete A Turner - Losing in Afghanistan or Roberts Gates’ Folly
Pete A Turner - Losing in Afghanistan or Roberts Gates’ Folly - Sometimes, Pete A Turner is the guest, in this case, he's written an OpEd responding to Secretary Robert Gates' recent article published in the NY Times. Pete A Turner delivers fast and clear critique on this episode of the Break It Down Show. Where Gates' laments the US leaving Afghanistan...Pete rebukes Gates for his failure. In his candid, but a truthful response. Pete discusses just some of the reasons why the US failed in Afghanistan. We don't get enough of this part of Pete's work, and we're in...
2021-08-31
1h 03
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Grant Martin - Afghanistan, What Were We Doing? Can We Get Better?
Grant Martin - Afghanistan, What Were We Doing? Can We Get Better? - Grant Martin is a COL and a Green Beret in the US Army. Grant and Pete discuss Afghanistan at a variety of levels. The main thing they discuss is the strategy, the training and the mindset of the US Military. Grant and Pete push the established narrative and challenge one another and the system. The thing that we love about this episode is Grant and Pete are able to volley back and forth at a level that we don't see anywhere else. Are we truly interested in wi...
2021-08-31
1h 21
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Pete A Turner - The Afghan Constant
Pete A Turner - The Afghan Constant - Pete A Turner continues to provide thought leadership on Afghanistan. As the situation evolves, we're left to wonder, what happened. However, Pete, powered by the Ground Truth understands the reasons for the collapse of the US installed Afghan government. As a means of illustrating the flaws in the US system,Pete has authored a monograph describing the tools, mindsets and axioms he developed while deployed. The US and her allies failure to adapt to the unique problem set posed by Afghanistan is the first problem. Therefore, the US owns the burden, costs a...
2021-08-24
1h 14
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John Green – The Last Plane Out of Kabul
John Green – The Last Plane Out of Kabul - John Green and Pete A Turner are two of the most experienced Afghanistan hands that exist. Truly, these guys understand why the US failed so badly during its time building up the country. Now, as the US flees Afghanistan, we're all trying to make sense of what's happening. There are opinions flying in every direction...Who is at fault, what went wrong, should we stay or go? John Green is a long-time friend of Pete A Turner's. You can't find better minds on this topic. They have seen more of the Ground...
2021-08-23
1h 20
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Johnny Walker - Code Name Johnny Walker Movie in 2022
Johnny Walker - Code Name Johnny Walker Movie in 2022 - Johnny Walker and Pete A Turner have known one another for nearly 20 years. They first met while Pete was deployed to Mosul Iraq. Johnny worked as an interpreter for Pete...oddly, somehow a Navy SEAL Senior Chief knew Pete from his days as a CFSO instructor. That paid off in spades when the SEALs left Mosul, and handed Johnny over to Pete. Get Johnny's incredible book "Code Name Johnny Walker "" In Mosul, Johnny and Pete REDACTED for the US forces while REDACTED. They worked on operation REDACTED and spend time RE...
2021-06-30
49 min
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Gina L Osborn - Leading Like a Lady
Gina L Osborn - Leading Like a Lady - is a retired FBI agent, who started her career as an Army Counterintelligence Special Agent. That means that Pete A Turner, also an Army CI agent is gonna have a ball talking with Gina. While in the FBI, Gina worked organized crime...and saw enough action that she was never bored. Gina hosts two podcasts. , which features successful women who lead at the top of their profession. She's also the creator and host of a true-crime podcast that focuses on the people who work on the biggest cases in American history. For t...
2021-06-24
1h 03
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Brad Johnson - Current Events from the Intelligence Community
Brad Johnson - Current Events from the Intelligence Community - Brad founded an organization called the . Pete A Turner and Brad both worked in the Intelligence Community. Brad was a station chief for the CIA, and Pete a US Army Counterintelligence agent. What their experience gives us is a practical ground truth-focused reality about the intelligence collection, organizations, and capabilities of the US. One of the realities Brad discusses is the pervasive and corrosive impact of politics in the intelligence community. For the of this episode head to Please support the Break It Down Show by doing a monthly subscription to the...
2021-06-16
1h 21
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Hana Bajramovic – The Second Amendment, Who Right is It
Hana Bajramovic – The Second Amendment, Who Right is It - One of the things that makes the Break It Down Show great is our ability to hear both sides of a conversation. In this episode, Pete A Turner hosts , a lawyer, and now author. Hana's book focuses on the history of the US' 2nd Amendment. Gun rights to some are a group or community right. To others, it's an individual right. Rather than have a debate, Pete invited Ryan Petty who lost his daughter in the Parkland Fl school shooting. Get Hana's book on Amazon at hamzn.to/3xcNdz3 Ryan and...
2021-04-22
58 min
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Lisa Jackson - Culture Pros, How Do Values Show UP
Lisa Jackson - Culture Pros, How Do Values Show UP - Pete A Turner LOVES talking about culture with folks who know. knows what she's doing. She's the co-founder of Corporate Culture Pros. It's remarkable to note that many corporate mergers fail...and much of that failure is attributed to incongruence in culture. Corp culture is a challenge for any organization...it's folks like Lisa that sort it out for them. Hang on, this one starts out fast and moves like lightning. Get Lisa's culture-focused magazine and facts about her company at For the LIVE version of this show head to...
2021-04-13
1h 31
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Jason Piccolo - US Border Crisis, Nobody Has the Answer
Jason Piccolo - US Border Crisis, Nobody Has the Answer - Jason Piccolo is an expert on immigration and the border crisis on the US' southern border with Mexico. He's been an agent on the ground, he's been a whistleblower when the Obama administration failed to protect immigrant children...and he's been a warrior against human trafficking for years. For the live version of this episode head to Jason and Pete A Turner get into the crisis...and Jason notes that it never ceases. He asserts that because the US is an ideal as well as a destination, an entire eco...
2021-04-09
58 min
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Clint Emerson and Pete A Turner - Surviving Dangerous Situations
Clint Emerson and Pete A Turner - Surviving Dangerous Situations - Clint Emerson is an author who specializes in keeping people safe. He's written a number of highly successful books. The 100 Skills books have sold 1000s of copies. Pete A Turner, is also a guest today, he and Clint compare notes and techniques on staying safe. The techniques both guests offer are proven and tested. Also, hosting today's episode is our friend Shelley Klingerman. Shelley is also a security expert, her focus is on female safety and security. Today's Live introduction is fro Pete's friend who goes back decades, Kirk Gomez...
2021-04-05
1h 05
Break It Down Show
Chris Merrick Hughes – What is New Wave, Tears for Fears
Chris Merrick Hughes – What is New Wave, Tears for Fears - Chris Merrick Hughes is a music producer who has done it all. He's pioneered a genre while drumming in Adam and the Ants. He's defined the genre producing for Tears for Fears. He's also worked with legends like Robert Plant, Paul McCartney and Peter Gabriel. Pete A Turner and Chris talk about New Wave. Many of the emblematic songs have the core elements of rock and roll...so what makes it New Wave. Chris gives us the answer. Essentially, it's a new approach, and not just in the music. For...
2021-03-26
1h 13