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The Creative KindSam Michelle - The importance of consistencyIn this episode I chat to Sam Michelle. We discuss the theme of consistency in Sam's art practice and maintaining a passion-driven approach. Sam shares insights on juggling life and art and the importance of continual learning. The discussion also explores how her love for gardening intertwines with her art, offering both inspiration and a necessary balance to avoid burnout. We chat about the significance of staying true to one’s artistic voice while also allowing space for experimentation and growth. Sam also shares insights on business practices, the importance of maintaining a connection with collectors, and her philosophy on...2024-09-1544 min
Fail Like An ArtistFrom art burnout to balanceWhoop we made an episode!! After a long hiatus, Julie & Phoebe discuss the challenges they've faced in balancing art, life, and other responsibilities. We reflect on the difficulties of staying connected and maintaining a creative practice amidst busy schedules and personal obstacles. Despite these challenges, Phoebe talks about recent efforts to carve out studio time, the emotional rollercoaster of feeling like an artist, the pressure of social media, and the small victories in reconnecting with their artistic identities. Julie talks about her new podcast, "The Creative Kind," and how it offers a different perspective by interviewing other artists. They...2024-07-2251 minFail Like An ArtistFailing to record a podcastIt was so nice to record a new episode for you! in this episode we touch on what has been keeping us in and out of the studio lately, and why there's been a lengthy break between podcast episodes!ind Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti & Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com , @phoebeganderart & Phoebe’s newsletter:Podcast Website:Submit a question or fail hereBuy us a Ko-fi! Please don’t forget to rate and review! And take a screenshot and tag us in your stories to he...2024-03-0648 minFail Like An ArtistReflecting Back On The YearIn this episode we reflect back on 2023 and chat about the biggest things that we’ve learnt through all the ups and downs.Thanks for sticking with us this year! we’re not entirely sure how our Christmas/New Year scheduling will go, but we’ll get you the next episode as oon as we can!xx JB & PGFind Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti & Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com , @phoebeganderart & Phoebe’s newsletter:Podcast Website:Submit a question or fail hereBuy us a Ko...2023-12-1845 minFail Like An ArtistPerceptions Around InstagramThis week we are chatting about perceptions. Phoebe recently reached a milestone and tipped over 100,000 Instagram followers, so we chat about how this came about after a long time little growth. We discuss how this number is a bit like being ‘rich in Monopoly’ and doesn’t mean instant sales or success. We delve into how it is impossible to predict when a reel will go viral, and also how follower count can impact people’s expectations and perceptions. We both have different ways of communicating using Instagram, but the one key similarity is that we never stray from being ou...2023-12-1157 minFail Like An ArtistFailing Forward - Learning To Pause Before You StartThis week we are chatting about how we reboot or start new artworks and art projects. We discuss the ways that we have failed at this in the past, by jumping in too quickly and not fully allowing ideas to develop, and how we both want to get better at pausing before rushing ahead. When thinking about planning, it’s no surprise that Julie is more of a spreadsheet user and Phoebe tends to use her less reliable ‘mind map’ system… We also discover the ‘interesting’ way that Phoebe visualises a year.We hope you enjoy this chat, please...2023-12-0449 minFail Like An ArtistExhibition debrief & general catch upIt’s been a minute since we sat down to record, and we just about forgot how to do it! This episode sees us catching up with the big life events that have been the reason for our absence. Phoebe’s trip to the UK and Julie’s visit back to Australia for her solo exhibition. We chat about the highs and lows of the past couple of months, barely scratching the surface, but at least we know there will be more episodes to come!That you for sticking with us whilst we took a pause… We hope you...2023-11-2742 minFail Like An ArtistInterview with Alice SheridanThis week we chat with Alice Sheridan, a London based artist, one half of the popular art podcast ‘Art Juice’, and creator of the ‘Connected Artist Club’, a supportive art community full of advice, resources and workshops.Alice spoke really honestly about her failures, what struck us most how insightful she is when she looks back onto past and recent failures. There’s so much to learn from Alice’s thoughtful approach to her art making, we hope you enjoy it as much as we did!Alice’s WebsiteConnected Artist Club:Art Juice2023-10-161h 12Fail Like An ArtistInterview with Amber Creswell BellAfter our ‘Finding gallery representation’ episode we had a bunch of interesting questions from you lovely folks that we definitely wanted to dig into deeper and answer, but we also weren’t sure we were the best people to answer them which is where the idea for this episode came from! We wanted to interview a curator and ask her your questions. We feel we were incredibly lucky that Amber said yes as she was so generous and helpful with the information she gave, we felt we learnt a lot, and we hope you do too! Find ou...2023-10-0951 minFail Like An ArtistSlightly Crunchy DeadlinesJulie & Phoebe catch up about their weeks, looming deadlines and trips. They talk about the hurdles of buying art supplies and their many abandoned carts. There will be a short break in these "catch up "episodes while Phoebe is away! Stick with us though and make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss us when we're back!Newsletter: (published each week with Tuesdays episode)Facebook Group:Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti & Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com , @phoebeganderart & Phoebe’s newsletter:Podcast Web...2023-09-1433 minFail Like An ArtistEvolving your art styleThis week we revisit the topic of art style. We dig into the difference between style and genre and discuss how our art styles have emerged, and where they continue to evolve. We discuss the pros and cons of wanting to try ‘everything’ and how some people seem to display a style from the get-go. Julie talks through the differences between her two styles of painting, but doesn’t want to be pigeonholed, and Phoebe shares her S.T.Y.L.E acronym that explains how her style is evolving and what things she’s let go of in order to...2023-09-111h 13Fail Like An ArtistArtist, interruptedA catch up on our weeks so far! We celebrate hitting 100k downloads and discuss some of our fails and wins, similarities and differences this week.Newsletter: (published each week with Tuesdays episode)Facebook Group:Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti & Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com , @phoebeganderart & Phoebe’s newsletter:Podcast Website:Submit a question or fail hereBuy us a Ko-fi! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-09-0730 minFail Like An ArtistYou Asked, We Answered!This week we thought we’d try something new, so as the title suggests we asked the listeners to throw some questions at us. From our favouring artists to our favourite colours, there’s hopefully something of interest for you to listen to as we witter on... Full disclosure, we asked for questions aimed specifically at either of us but ended up just having a big ol’ pile that we picked randomly from. So sorry if we asked the wrong question to the wrong person, or if we didn’t manage to get to your question, we might just have to...2023-09-0449 minFail Like An ArtistWe're both fineIn this weeks catch up, Julie & Phoebe ignore the rest of their lives and focus on art. Newsletter: (published each week with Tuesdays episode)Facebook Group:Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti & Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com , @phoebeganderart & Phoebe’s newsletter:Podcast Website:Submit a question or fail hereBuy us a Ko-fi! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-08-3127 minFail Like An ArtistNavigating Comparison & Competitiveness as ArtistsThis week on the pod we discuss the tricky subject of comparison and competitiveness. We both admit to having these feelings especially during recent times when sales have been slower, and talk openly about how it makes us feel, and how we manage things when the green eyed monster inevitably does show up. We both realise that it is completely normal to feel a level of competitiveness and comparison, and it’s not about trying to quash that, but it’s what we do with those feelings that matters. We share personal anecdotes highlighting times when we’ve caught oursel...2023-08-2853 minFail Like An ArtistThe Time CrunchPhoebe and Julie talk about their lives post visit, Phoebe talks about her time timer and how she's starting painting again since getting home and Julie talks about the how pressured she feels around time leading up to her exhibition.Artist shout out to : Emilybell.art who has launched her etsy shop!Visit the Fail Like An Artist newsletter for the full list of recommendations ( out each week with Tuesdays episode)Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com or @juliebattisti Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com or @pho...2023-08-2439 minFail Like An ArtistGallery Representation, from Swiping Right to Partnering Up!In this episode we discuss forming relationships with galleries and interior stores. From finding and approaching a gallery (specifically how we have approached them), and what to do if you get the ‘dreaded rejection’ email or worse still - totally ghosted. It’s a bit like the dating game really - just like finding the right partner involves figuring out compatibility, communication styles and looking for someone who supports you, finding the right gallery who you connect with and one that supports your growth in a way that feels aligned with you is very important. But it’s not always a...2023-08-2156 minFail Like An ArtistBonus Catch Up Episode #2We've finally met! Our first in person record we're just catching up on the week of mishaps and having some fun. Enjoy!Back to normal programming next weekVisit the Fail Like An Artist newsletter (there isn't one this week but there usually is one every week)Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com or @juliebattisti Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com or @phoebeganderart Phoebe’s newsletter:Buy us a Ko-fi! Please don’t forget to rate and review! And take...2023-08-1731 minFail Like An ArtistSick, burnt out & excited to meet up IRLJust a quick catch up, Phoebe and Julie both talk about their weeks of being sick, tired, and burnt out and how excited and nervous they are about meeting in person tomorrow!Visit the Fail Like An Artist newsletter (there isn't one this week but there usually is one every week)Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com or @juliebattisti Julie’s newsletterFind Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com or @phoebeganderart Phoebe’s newsletter:Buy us a Ko-fi! Please don’t forget to rate and review! And take a screensh...2023-08-1320 minFail Like An ArtistWhen Failure Leads to Art Opportunities with Laura HornWell what an exciting episode - for the first time we have a co-host on the pod, the wonderful Laura Horn! We had a lovely relaxed chat with Laura, who is such an easygoing person full of so much knowlege and art biz wisdom.We ask Laura where she is on the Fail Scale, and chat to her about why she hasn’t released an episode of her own podcast ‘The Laura Horn Art Podcast’ in almost a year. She reveals to us her biggest failure - and how that inspired a big change of focus that lead t...2023-08-071h 06Fail Like An ArtistTime Management & Self CareThis week on the pod we’ve both had fairly stressful things going on, which has led to some fwobbles and generally feeling like we are running on empty. So we end up chatting about how to apply self care during times when, well, there doesn’t seem to be time - and you realise there will never actually be enough time unless you make it. That led us onto the subject of time management where we discuss different strategies such as ‘paying yourself first’ and how we manage (and fail to manage) our time.mentioned:4000 w...2023-07-301h 01Fail Like An ArtistPulling Threads & Answering QuestionsThis week is a slightly more upbeat conversation after the heaviness of the previous one. Phoebe breathes a sigh of relief that the school holidays are over, and reflects on her recent kid’s art workshop. Julie is sleep deprived, also grateful for some more studio time, and reveals how her new fitness regime is playing out…We discuss the new meta app that is the latest hot topic - Threads. What is it? What’s the point of it, and do we - especially creatives - need it? We dig into how it could be useful...2023-07-231h 02Fail Like An ArtistQuitting, Second Jobs, Pivoting & RestingAs always, check out our Substack for a full list of show notes, ramblings and recommendationsThis week we delve into the the tricky subject of when you feel like you want to throw in the towel, and give up trying to make ‘ends meet’ as an artist…First, Julie chats about why she’s feeling peppy and shares her enthusiasm over her newest cloudscapes. Phoebe shares how the winter school holidays are going, how she survived a long car journey and her plans for a local kids art workshop.This brings them ont...2023-07-1647 minFail Like An ArtistUnravelling Perfectionism - Part 2Check out our substack for a full set of show notes: https://faillikeanartist.substack.com/This week, Julie chats about how her photoshoot went, and Phoebe reveals how she got over a fwobble. She also reveals her big news - that her artwork is now being represented in Australia by Greenhouse Interiors!In this episode we carry on the conversation around perfectionism. We dig a bit deeper into how perfectionism affects our art practices, how it shows up in sneaky ways - even the recording of the podcast… Quotes:Pau...2023-07-091h 00
Fail Like An ArtistUnravelling Perfectionism - Part 1This week Julie discusses how lucky she feels to love her job, her impending photoshoot and her struggle with writing a newsletter. Phoebe is sick of the rain, feeling likes she’s failing at remembering important things and has finally sent off an important parcel of artwork. She has been procrastinating, which leads them into this week’s topic of perfectionism. What is perfectionism and how does it show up for them both? Do they even consider themselves perfectionists?FLAAP also now has a Facebook group ‘Fail Like An Artist Group’ so please click on the link and sign...2023-07-0245 minFail Like An ArtistPositivity during difficult timesIn this episode we delve into the topic of positivity, after a listener asked if we would consider changing the podcast title to something more ‘positive’. Julie and Phoebe chat about their thoughts on this idea, and why they decided to use the word ‘fail’ in the podtcast title in the first place. This leads them into a deeper dive into the concept of positivity. It’s not always easy to stay positive when life throws you lemons, (and you’re out of gin and your tonic has gone flat) sometimes you don’t want to ‘smile’ and put on a brave face. S...2023-06-251h 05Fail Like An ArtistJuggling porridge & listener Q'sThis week on the pod Julie’s household has been hit by yet another bout of illness, causing her to fret over more missed studio time. Phoebe debriefs Julie on how her first ‘Sip and Paint’ art workshop went… and it brings up some profound realisations about why she has avoided teaching for so long. Julie realised she may now not be able to complete as many artworks for her exhibition, but shares a podcast she listened to that had a positive impact on the way she viewed this - realising that its only her that cares about the number o...2023-06-181h 14Fail Like An ArtistFrom sunbathing to surrendering...Woohoo! We’re back after a two week break - a break that almost broke Julie! We really missed recording and chatting to each other, and had so much to tell each other that this episode ended up just being a ‘catch up’ chat, rather than the Q&A episode we had planned (that will be coming next week instead). We hope you enjoy this informal, funny chat that’s even less structured or professional than ever!We discuss holidaying with kids and how challenging the reality of it can be, almost as challenging as saying the word “Wo...2023-06-1157 minFail Like An ArtistAnxiety, success and having a ‘fwobble’In this week’s episode Phoebe shares her ‘panic and the pizzeria’ and her decision to change her ‘word’ of the year. She talks about how this year she has felt like she has been on the backfoot and talks about the anxiety that she's been struggling with because of this. Julie lets us know how she got on at her first ‘artist meet-up’ social event, wonders whether she’s been taking photos illegally and reveals a solution to her hunt for pliers! She shares that she's feeling time pressured to be able to adhere to her own deadline, especially with...2023-05-211h 11Fail Like An ArtistAI & Art - Is it Intelligence or Insanity?In this episode Phoebe and Julie open the can of worms that is AI in art. They discuss this rapidly evolving new technology and its impact in the art world. And what a messy can of worms it is! They acknowledge that with this landscape changing so rapidly, the information they share may well be out of date very quickly. They try to keep the conversation neutral however it does occasionally swerve into their own personal opinions…They (do their best to) answer listener questions about the use of AI in art and also the concerns ov...2023-05-141h 10
artchatter with Gaynor Leverett-Jaques & Karen George50 - fifty!Ever wished you’d been given the benefit of great advice from amazing artists, maybe ahead of you on their art career path?
Well, to celebrate our 50th episode (FIFTIETH 😳 ) we invited artists we admire and love to do just that… tell us all something that they perhaps wish they’d known way back when.
We have been blown away by the generosity of the contributing artists and offer them a huge thank you for their kindness and words of advice. All are thought-provoking, inspiring, and speak to their experiences. We hope you gain insight and carry their words with you long afte...2023-05-101h 04Fail Like An ArtistOdd socks, crocs and the importance of art friendsAs an artist, experiencing self-doubt and loneliness is inevitable, especially since many of us tend to work alone. In this episode, Julie shares her struggles with self-doubt and exhibition worries, & how she overcame a recent experience of the 'comparison trap' with the help of her art friends. Phoebe expresses concern that Julie is working too hard (does she ever sleep?) shares some exciting news about her crocs*, and discusses her own current struggle with her work being stuck in the 'messy middle' stage. They also discuss they divided opinion of “should socks match” and introduce The Fail Scale - wher...2023-05-071h 04Fail Like An Artist"Shut up, you can" and other motivational quotesWe’re back baby!! We hope you’ve missed us in your ears because we’ve certainly missed podcasting. This week the format has changed slightly, firstly you’ll notice the pod has dropped at the beginning of the week, (yay you can now plan your entire week around when to listen!) and secondly since we hadn’t had a proper chat for a while, we decided to keep this episode more of a catch up rather than focusing on one particular topic. There definitely still fails in here though! Julie chats about her mission of setting herself a deadline t...2023-04-3058 minFail Like An ArtistFailing at PrintsTo print, or not to print… that is the question. In this episode we delve into the world of prints. Julie talks about when she tried to make selling photographs work and why she doesn’t offer prints or photographs any more. Phoebe talks about her print offerings and how she feels she’s failing at making them a streamlined part of her business. This week we also reached out to two artists for extra advice, Jen Seivers and Sierra Roberts, as we both felt we lacked enough experience to give a rounded view! With their help we do our be...2023-04-111h 06Fail Like An ArtistFailing with Art SuppliesThis week on the pod Julie’s experiencing the ‘joys of teething’ and subsequent sleep deprivation, whilst working on so many large artworks that 1 meter actually feels small! Phoebe has learnt a new skill - wand making, is trying anything to make her recovery from covid speedier and is trying out sound healing (*woo woo alert) to recalibrate her request for abundance. Then we move on to discussing art supplies, the things we’ve bought that we no longer use and what we use now. Phoebe discusses the pros and cons of acrylic whilst Julie does the same for oil paint...2023-04-041h 15Fail Like An ArtistFailing to Get the Blue TickWhat is a ‘blue tick’ and what does it mean if you get one? This week we discussed the ins and outs of the new ‘paid for verification badge’ that Meta are offering Instagram users. We chat about how much does it cost, how can you get a discount, and what the benefits for artists - if any - actually are. We share feedback from those who got a blue tick prior to the paid version plus from a few artists who’ve already signed up for the paid version. As always we discuss our thoughts on the matter and our ow...2023-03-281h 02Fail Like An ArtistFailing at Being OriginalWhat makes art original, when is copying ok and not ok? What can you do if you are worried about being copied? Phoebe opens up about a sensitive time, when she was blocked by an artist she admired, and also times when she has been copied and had images stolen and passed off as others’ work. Julie chats about sometimes feeling unoriginal due to the subject matters she paints, and how it feels to see others doing similar work. We discuss the ideas around whether there is such a thing as an original idea, where creative ideas come from an...2023-03-211h 20Fail Like An ArtistFailing at ShippingWe hate shipping, but it’s one of those things we both need to do, so join us to learn from our fails, but also our tips and tricks. We cover shipping fails like not charging enough, taxes and duties for international packages and damaged shipments. We answer some listener questions about how to package and send larger works, using recycled materials, how to package prints and end the episode with some great tips from our listeners!Claire Te Au’s first solo show: https://www.instagram.com/claireteauartist/@jogallagherartist @llizmcauliffeartist @i...2023-03-141h 00Fail Like An ArtistFailing at Art & MotherhoodWe started today's episode with the title ‘juggling art & life, but it quickly morphed into a discussion on balancing art & motherhood. We do hope to expand on other areas of the balancing act of having a creative career , but we just couldn’t fit any more into this episode ! We discuss the difficulties in finding time for art while parenting; mum guilt, time restraints, and financial pressure. Phoebe was primarily a mum first and then had to carve out time from her life for art, and Julie started her art career first and then had to find...2023-03-071h 25Fail Like An ArtistFailing at Instagram Q&A'sThis week on the pod Phoebe and Julie have a follow up conversation about Instagram, this time answering listener questions. We chat about everything from scammers, bots, and fake followers to recording reels without cringing and choosing hashtags. As you can see this is quite a long episode, avd we still didn’t manage to answer every question that was submitted. If your question wasn’t answered we’re sorry! No doubt we will revisit this topic again as Instagram is an ever evolving platform so there will undoubtedly be new features and issues in the future. Hopefully this conver...2023-02-281h 25Fail Like An ArtistFailing at Imposter SyndromeThis week Julie and Phoebe discuss imposter syndrome. From feeling not good enough to feeling like a fake, the ways it has impacted us and our different strategies for overcoming it (or not). This podcast was recorded on the eve of Cyclone Gabrielle hitting NZ. Clearly we didn’t have any idea about the kind of destruction it would have. If you’re wanting to donate, you can go to the red cross website: Or if you’re an artist wanting to donate the proceeds of your work you can use the hashtag #artforcyc...2023-02-211h 04Fail Like An ArtistFailing at InstagramJulie & Phoebe discuss the changing instagram landscape, Phoebe talks about the ways she’s continuing her growth, tips like continuing to focus on quality captions and images, challenges. JB talks about researching tips and advice. We discuss the fallacy of thinking that followers = sales, and Phoebe shares a handy acronym to help you when thinking about what to post for maximum engagement. Plus the importance of two factor authentication & mailing lists. Editing Apps Phoebe Used:A Colour StoryLightroomVisocamRNI filmsInstagram Challenges:March Meet the Maker Challenge - @joannehawker #marchmeetthemaker31 days of creative practice wit...2023-02-141h 15Fail Like An ArtistFailing at VarnishingVarnishing ; What you should do, when you should trial (always) and all the different fails. Dust, Different brands, different processes, timing, panicking, removing varnish.. here’s to learning from our mistakes ! Questions from:@Ian_Versace_artistMentioned : mLangridge webpageGamblin webpageLorraine LootsSamantha DennysonMarcoGrassiFind Julie here:www.juliebattisti.com@juliebattisti : https://www.instagram.com/juliebattisti/Find Phoebe here:www.phoebegander.com@phoebeganderart : https://www.instagram.com/phoebeganderart/Subsc...2023-02-0742 minFail Like An ArtistFailing at ExhibitionsIn this episode Phoebe and Julie talk about some of their exhibition failures. From location to sales, solo shows, art fairs & everything in between we chat about our fails and what we’ve learned. Mentioned :Helen DeanRosie Carson of Elemental JewelleryFind Julie here:www.juliebattisti.com@juliebattistiFind Phoebe here:www.phoebegander.com@phoebeganderartSubscribe to the podcast here:@faillikeandartistPodcast Website:https://shows.acast.com/fail-like-an-artistP...2023-01-311h 03Fail Like An ArtistFailing at CommissionsFailing at commissions. It’s good to have a process, turns out that both Phoebe and Julie learned this the hard way. In this episode discuss a few failures around processes and approaches to collectors, what we’ve learned and the changes we still need to make! See out mailing list for a list of commission recommendations: Mailing ListWe share some a funny listener fail one anonymous listener and@amymarcyart Quotes from: Samuel Beckett: "try again, fail again, fail Better"Emily McDowell @emandfriendsMe...2023-01-2442 minFail Like An ArtistFailing at Art EducationIn episode two we’re talking about art education. Julie studied Visual Arts at University and Phoebe is largely self taught from online courses. We discussed how we both felt we’d failed in some ways with our choices, and what we learnt. Julie talks about what she regrets regarding her decision to go to art school and what she saw as being the biggest things she got out of it, and Phoebe discusses her feelings around not going to art school and how she found the online courses that she did instead. Mentioned in this ep:2023-01-1749 minFail Like An ArtistFailing to find a styleIt's episode 1 of Fail Like An Artist! In today's episode, we are discussing the juicy and elusive topic of “finding your style” - Is it something you need to search for? Are you born with one? Is it ok for it to change? What's the difference between style and genre?? Julie chats about when she felt called to bring in a completely different subject matter, and how that affected her style and made her worry galleries would reject her. And Phoebe talks about her journey of trying many different types and styles of art from resin to still life and...2023-01-1046 minFail Like An ArtistTrailerWhat's it all about?Failing, learning, and laughing. This trailer is just a little intro into what we'll be discussing on our podcast; how our failures in our creative process and lives have taught us valuable insights into how to progress (and how not to) as artists.First episode drops Jan 11 2023, Subscribe now so you don't miss it!Follow us @faillikeanartist for more updates!Newsletter can be found here Hosted on Acast. 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Authentic ObsessionsPhoebe Gander - Curiosity, Light & ShadowPhoebe Gander is a landscape, abstract and still life painter, inspired by the beautiful ocean, skies and landscape where she lives with her family in Wainui Beach on the east coast of New Zealand. Phoebe started her journey of self-discovery by carving out time for art to help her overcome severe panic attacks and anxiety. Nostalgia, solitude, vulnerability, texture and light are themes that reoccur in her art. During our conversation she talks about the importance of listening to the niggly voices, her love of light and shadow and her insatiable curiosity.TakeawaysJust because you...2022-04-121h 19