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On InvestingThe Role of the Fed in a Shifting Economy (With Pat Harker)This week, Kevin Gordon fills in for Kathy Jones. Liz Ann Sonders and Kevin discuss the recent NABE conference and the current state of the markets in light of the government shutdown and recent tariff announcements. They explore the implications for earnings season, the potential impact of AI on productivity, and the challenges facing the labor market. They also cover the importance of upcoming economic data releases and how relying on alternative data could have potential effects on market trends and monetary policy.Then, Liz Ann is joined by Patrick Harker, former president and CEO of the...
2025-10-1744 minOn InvestingThe Housing Market Remains Out of SyncIn this conversation, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the housing market, the implications of potential Fed policy changes, and the broader economic indicators that could affect market expectations. They explore the complexities of housing affordability, the yield curve, and the potential impact of this week's job reports on both the equity and bond markets. The discussion highlights the interconnectedness of various economic factors and the uncertainty surrounding future market movements.Check out Liz Ann Sonders's and Kevin Gordon's recent housing article "Take the Long Way Home: Is Housing Bottoming?" O...
2025-09-0521 minOn InvestingRate Cut Coming? Sectors to WatchThis week, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the implications of political pressure on the Federal Reserve, particularly regarding the administration's attempts to influence monetary policy. They explore the potential risks of increased political control over the Fed, the current state of the bond and stock markets, and the importance of economic indicators such as labor market reports and inflation measures. Then, Kevin Gordon, director and senior investment strategist, joins Liz Ann to discuss the situation at the Fed, as well as the state of sectors and factors that could be sensitive to changes in interest r...
2025-08-2936 minOn InvestingWhat Is the End Game for Tariffs?This week, Kevin Gordon fills in for Liz Ann Sonders while she is on vacation. Kevin and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on tariff implications, inflation concerns, labor market dynamics, and sector performance. They explore how these factors influence investment strategies and the overall economic outlook, emphasizing the importance of understanding underlying trends and potential volatility ahead.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podca...
2025-08-0129 minOn InvestingWhy Does Sentiment Not Match Hard Data?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the bond market, the influence of central banks, and the impact of policy announcements on market dynamics. They explore consumer confidence, economic indicators, and the potential effects of upcoming labor data on market trends. The discussion highlights the volatility in the markets and the importance of understanding the interplay between policy and economic conditions.You can read the article on hard data vs. soft data by Liz Ann and Kevin Gordon on Schwab.com. On Investing is an original podcast from Cha...
2025-05-3020 minOn InvestingConsidering the Risk of Stagflation & UncertaintyIn this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the recent FOMC meeting, focusing on the implications of the economic projections, the potential for stagflation, and the uncertainty surrounding current economic indicators. They delve into the Fed's quantitative tightening program and its adjustments, as well as the importance of various economic data points moving forward. The discussion highlights the challenges businesses face due to uncertainty and the need for clearer guidelines to navigate the economic landscape.Kathy and Liz Ann also discuss the data and economic indicators they will be watching in the coming week.
2025-03-2118 minOn InvestingIs Recession on the Horizon?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current sentiment in the market, contrasting consumer sentiment with investor sentiment amid economic uncertainty. They explore the implications of bearish investor attitudes and the potential for a recession and reflect on the anniversary of the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on the economy. The conversation also highlights key economic indicators to watch in the coming week, including retail sales and Fed decisions.Then, Liz Ann speaks with Kevin Gordon about the overall economic landscape, focusing on recession indicators, labor market dynamics, and the recent earnings season. They explore t...
2025-03-1433 minOn InvestingNavigating Tariffs & Inflation (With Dr. Richard Clarida)In this episode, Kathy Jones interviews Dr. Richard Clarida, PIMCO's global economic advisor and former vice Chairman of the Board of Governors of the U.S. Federal Reserve System.Dr. Clarida is a managing director in PIMCO's New York office and teaches economics and international affairs at Columbia University. Prior to joining PIMCO in 2006, he was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy, serving as chief economic advisor to two U.S. Treasury secretaries. He and Kathy discuss the state of the economy, the way the Fed is structured, and some of the ways that central b...
2025-02-0738 minOn InvestingMarkets React to a New AdministrationIn this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the intersection of market analysis and political developments, particularly focusing on the implications of a second Trump term. They explore the performance of major tech stocks, the impact of regulatory changes on various sectors, and the current state of the bond market. The conversation also delves into the ongoing earnings season, highlighting the trends in corporate performance and expectations for the Federal Reserve's future actions amid economic uncertainty.Finally, Kathy and Liz Ann look ahead to the data and economic indicators that investors should be watching next...
2025-01-2422 minOn Investing2025 Market Outlook: U.S. Stocks & Economy & Global MarketsAfter another year of the bull market, what's in store for stocks in 2025? In this year-end episode, Schwab experts look ahead to consider what investors might expect from the markets in the new year.First, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, speaks with senior investment strategist Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann and Kevin discuss their perspective on the direction of the U.S. economy and stock market. She and Kevin cover tariffs, immigration, and potential policy changes, among other topics. Uncertainty remains a major theme.Next, Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist interviews Jeffrey K...
2024-12-1333 minOn InvestingWhat Does a Credit Analyst Do?In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the bond market and the bull market in equities. They explore the volatility in bond yields, the significance of credit spreads, and the importance of employment and inflation data.This week, Kathy speaks with Carol Spain, managing director and head of credit research for Schwab Asset Management. Kathy and Carol delve into the intricacies of credit analysis, exploring Carol's unique career path, the role of credit analysts, and the current conditions in the credit market. They discuss the dynamics between credit research and...
2024-10-1838 minOn InvestingMidyear Outlook: Equities, International & WashingtonAll eyes were on the Fed in the first half of 2024, but with core PCE holding steady and no rate cuts, how did the other parts of the economy and the markets fare? In this midyear episode, Schwab experts look ahead to the second half of 2024 to consider what investors might expect from the U.S. stock market, the global markets, and policy and politics in Washington D.C.First, Liz Ann Sonders and Kevin Gordon discuss the current trends and bifurcations in the equity market. They highlight the significant spread between large-cap and small-cap performance, with...
2024-06-1447 minOn InvestingWhat's New in Stock Sectors & Corporate Bonds?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones analyze the state of the markets and discuss the current expectations around the Fed's potential rate cuts. Then, Liz Ann speaks with Kevin Gordon about sector trends and changes in the overall market. They discuss the notable shifts in sector performance, particularly in energy and technology. The energy sector has taken the leadership baton from the tech sector, which has been a significant change. The top heaviness of certain sectors, such as communication services and energy, is highlighted. The conversation also touches on Schwab Sector Views and the c...
2024-04-1939 minOn InvestingWhat Can the Sahm Rule Tell Us About the Economy?In this episode, Schwab's Chief Fixed Income Strategist Kathy Jones interviews former Fed economist Claudia Sahm. And Schwab's Chief Investment Strategist Liz Ann Sonders discusses the December jobs report with Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann and Kevin look at the differences between the numbers in the household survey and the establishment survey—and how this data will affect the fight against inflation, among other topics. You can see the charts they mention in this article: Mixed Signals: December's Jobs Report.Kathy and Claudia discuss the Sahm rule, which is an indicator of a recession, and its purpose in pr...
2024-01-1255 minOn InvestingMarket Outlook: What's in Store for 2024?After a tumultuous year for the markets, what's in store for 2024? In this year-end episode, Schwab experts look ahead to consider what investors might expect from the markets in the new year.First, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, speaks with senior investment strategist Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann offers her perspective on the direction of the U.S. economy and stock market. She and Kevin discuss inflation, interest rates, company earnings, and the job market, among other topics.Next, Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist interviews her colleagues Collin Martin and Cooper Howard. K...
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