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Still LearningHow Do We Let God Prevail in Our Lives? – Come Follow Me – Gen 24-33 | Still LearningLetting God prevail sounds simple, but in real life it often requires surrendering control. Rebecca and Gunnar explore how Jacob’s life illustrates this principle through years of struggle, growth, and divine intervention. From the dream at Bethel to the wrestle at Peniel and the emotional reunion with Esau, Jacob learns that God’s promises unfold in God’s way—not ours. The discussion highlights how humility, repentance, and faith open the door to God’s power in our lives. Rebecca and Gunnar also reflect on how this principle applies today when we face fear, conflict, or uncertainty. The message at...
2026-03-0659 min
Still LearningWhat Happens When You Wrestle With God? – Come Follow Me – Gen 18-23 | Still LearningSome people wrestle with church leaders. Others wrestle with culture. But what happens when you wrestle directly with God? Abraham pleads. The brother of Jared petitions. A desperate Gentile mother refuses to leave. Again and again, scripture shows that holy wrestling draws us closer to God, not farther away from Him. In this episode, Rebecca and Gunnar explore the difference between rebellion and relationship—and why wrestling may actually be a form of embrace.
2026-02-2358 min
Still LearningDoes The Covenant Apply To Those Cast Off? – Come Follow Me – Gen 12-17, Abr 1-2 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar explore Hagar’s story as one of the most intimate covenant moments in scripture. They talk about power, blindness, and what it means to be unseen by people but fully seen by God. Rebecca reflects on oppression, gender, and inherited assumptions, while Gunnar probes how God remains just without abandoning imperfect servants. The conversation doesn’t rush past discomfort. Instead, it lingers where grace meets pain. This episode offers hope to anyone who has felt overlooked, minimized, or dismissed. It testifies that God’s covenants reach farther than human status.
2026-02-171h 03
Still LearningWhat Does It Mean to Be Safe From the Storm?– Come Follow Me - Gen 6-11, Mos 8 | Still LearningGunnar and Rebecca discuss the story of Noah not as an escape plan, but as a blueprint for carrying people through inevitable storms. Joined by special guests Kim and LaVar Kofoed, they reflect on what it means to build something capable of holding faith, family, and love when control is impossible. Drawing on scripture and lived experience, the conversation centers on preparation without panic, trust without certainty, and why love—not fear—is what ultimately keeps the ark afloat. Learn more about Kofoed Family Music at: https://kofoedfamilymusic.com CONNECTION
2026-02-0951 min
Still LearningWhat If Building Zion Starts With How I See Others? - Come Follow Me - Moses 7 | Still LearningBefore Zion can exist as a place, it has to exist as a way of seeing. In this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca reflect on blind spots, personal growth, and the quiet ways judgment creeps into faith. If Zion is defined by purity of heart, what does that demand of us individually? This conversation invites listeners to consider that building Zion may begin not with changing the world—but with changing how we look at the people in it.Sing for Zion by Rebecca BurnhamUnity's not a sin...
2026-02-0343 min
Still LearningHow Is Faith Passed Down at Home? Lessons from Enoch - Come Follow Me - Gen 5 Mos 6 | Still LearningFaith rarely moves in straight lines. Gunnar and Rebecca dig into genealogies, priesthood timelines, and the overlooked story of Mahalaleel to talk about generational faith. Why do some people learn quickly while others take decades—or longer? This episode explores patience, covenantal hope, and God’s long view of families. It’s a conversation for anyone praying for someone they love.
2026-01-2655 min
Still LearningIs Opposition a Punishment or an Opportunity? - Come Follow Me - Gen 3-4; Mos 4-5 | Still LearningMost of us instinctively avoid resistance and pain. But what if opposition is not an obstacle to God’s plan—what if it is the plan? Drawing from Genesis and Moses, this episode explores how agency, resistance, and suffering shape divine character. Gunnar and Rebecca challenge the idea that ease equals righteousness. If you’ve ever wondered why God doesn’t just remove your trials, this conversation goes straight to the heart of the question.
2026-01-1844 min
Still LearningWhat Does the Creation Story Tell Me About Me? - Come Follow Me - Gen, Abr, & Mos | Still LearningWhen we hit Genesis 1–2, we often get rushed straight into arguing about how creation happened. In this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca step back and ask what the story is actually trying to show us about identity, purpose, and God’s intentions. They explore the repeated refrain “and it was good” and what it means to be good even while you’re still unfinished. They also talk about light vs. darkness and why light can't be overpowered by darkness. For darkness to reign, the light must first be extinguished. The conversation turns toward relationships: not hierarchy, not competition, but connection and suppor...
2026-01-1149 min
Still LearningDid we also volunteer at the Council in Heaven? - Come Follow Me - Abraham & Moses | Still LearningWhat if the hardest parts of your life weren’t assigned—but chosen? In this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca explore the idea that premortal choosing wasn’t abstract, but deeply personal. They connect Christ’s “Here am I, send me” to Isaiah’s call and to our own lives. That perspective doesn’t minimize suffering—but it can give it meaning. If we volunteered knowing growth required pain, then endurance becomes participation, not punishment. This is a conversation about courage, consent, and eternal purpose.
2026-01-051h 02
Still LearningA God Who Meets Us In Our Messiness - Come Follow Me - Old Testament Overview | Still LearningThe Old Testament is full of messy families, broken covenants, and hard lessons—and that may be its greatest strength. In this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca explore why imperfection does not disqualify people from God’s work. They reflect on how faith operates across generations and why covenant promises often outlive the people who make them. The discussion reframes divine restraint as love rather than distance. By examining both scripture and lived experience, they argue that God’s consistency is found in patience, not punishment. This episode invites listeners to see their own families reflected in sacred history.
2025-12-2836 min
Still LearningWas Christ's birth the Greatest Celebration in Heaven? - Come Follow Me | Still Learning ChristmasGunnar and Rebecca explore the idea that Christmas was not merely a quiet moment in a stable, but a cosmic celebration echoing promises made long before mortality. They examine the role of the heavenly hosts in Luke 2 and connect that rejoicing to premortal and postmortal celebrations described in scripture. The discussion reframes Christmas as a pivotal milestone in the eternal plan of salvation. Gunnar shares musical insights behind his original setting of the nativity account, highlighting how music captures eternal joy in ways words alone cannot. The episode invites listeners to see Christmas as heaven’s affirmation that redemption wa...
2025-12-2251 min
Still LearningCan You Embrace Both The Family & LGBTQ? - Come Follow Me | Still Learning Family ProclamationGunnar and Rebecca explore how to apply the Proclamation in families that include LGBTQ members or others who feel they don't fit traditional patterns. They discuss Elder Cook’s teachings on compassion and inclusion, as well as modern Church resources that urge love, listening, and understanding. Their conversation highlights how families can remain united even when navigating difficult terrain. They describe real experiences of growth that came from listening rather than lecturing. Throughout the episode, they affirm that every person is a beloved child of Heavenly Parents. The message is bold yet deeply compassionate.
2025-12-161h 12
Still LearningCan You Sustain a Prophet You Don’t Agree With? - Come Follow Me Official Decl. | Still LearningThis episode explores the turbulent history behind Official Declarations 1 and 2, emphasizing the human and spiritual struggles that surrounded both decisions. Gunnar and Rebecca outline the legal pressure, family separation, and emotional trauma experienced during the end of plural marriage, showing how deeply the Saints wrestled with obedience when the cost felt overwhelming. They then shift to the priesthood restriction, examining its murky origins, the cultural assumptions of the 19th century, and the long process leading to the 1978 revelation. The conversation highlights the difficulty of sustaining prophetic leadership during periods of doctrinal transition. Gunnar and Rebecca also consider what Article...
2025-12-071h 17
Still LearningHow Can Suffering Fit Inside a Loving God’s Plan? - Come Follow Me D&C 137-138 | Still LearningThis episode explores D&C 137–138 through the lens of judgment, desire, and the remarkable consistency of God’s love. Gunnar and Rebecca dive deep into Joseph Smith’s vision of the celestial kingdom and Joseph F. Smith’s expansive revelation of the spirit world. They discuss why God judges both works and desires, and what that means for discipleship today. Powerful scriptural connections—Moroni 7, Alma 34, Romans 8—illuminate how intent shapes eternity. They also confront difficult questions about infant mortality, grief, and hope as they wrestle honestly with suffering, hope, and the Lord’s promise that “all things work together for good.” A rich...
2025-12-011h 21
Still LearningWhen Politics, Fear, & Faith Collide, What Happens? - Come Follow Me D&C 135-136 | Still LearningFrom conspiracies in the Hamilton House to the political stakes of the 1844 election, this episode connects the dots in ways most Latter-day Saints never hear. Gunnar and Rebecca walk through the overlapping pressures leading to the martyrdom and examine the lone eyewitness account of the “light” at the well. They also wrestle with the moral implications of political hatred, the temptation to demonize our opponents, and the prophetic principle that God meets His people where they are. Ultimately, the episode calls us to higher discipleship and clearer thinking in a world still fueled by outrage.As...
2025-11-251h 29
Still LearningDoes Surviving Matter More Than Knowing Christ? - Come Follow Me D&C 133-134 | Still LearningIn this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca dive into D&C 133–134 with both urgency and hope, asking what it really means to prepare to meet Christ. Exploring fear, faith, accountability, and the difference between knowing about the Savior and actually knowing Him, they draw on personal stories, early Church history, and modern prophetic counsel to reframe the Second Coming as a deeply redemptive event, not something meant to terrify believers. The discussion then turns to religious liberty, political tension, and the still-radical vision in D&C 134 of a world where every person is free to worship—or not—according to their own co...
2025-11-181h 11
Still LearningCan Your Faith Survive the Hardest Revelation? - Come Follow Me D&C 129-132 | Still LearningJoseph Smith’s final years saw a torrent of revolutionary doctrine—resurrected angels, eternal marriage, exaltation, and the plurality of Gods. Gunnar and Rebecca trace the breathtaking sequence of those revelations and ask what they teach us about divine progression today. If God is still revealing truth, what might He reveal next—and are we ready to receive it?
2025-11-101h 27
Still LearningCan the Lord See His Reflection in You?” - Come Follow Me D&C 125-128 | Still LearningWhen silver is purified, the refiner knows it’s ready when he can see his face in it. That image — the craftsman gazing into molten silver — is one of the most tender metaphors in scripture. In this conversation, Gunnar and Rebecca explore what it means for God to “see Himself” in His Saints. Through the Refiner’s fire, they look at how purification works — not all at once, but through countless, patient refinings. They connect the process of sanctification to temple worship, repentance, and the slow miracle of becoming new until “the sons of Levi shall offer again an offering unto the...
2025-11-0356 min
Still LearningAre You Discovering Yourself? – Come Follow Me D&C 124 | Still LearningWhat if your hardest moments aren’t about God testing you—but about you discovering something about yourself? Drawing from President Hugh B. Brown’s piercing reminder that “Abraham needed to learn something about Abraham,” Gunnar and Rebecca trace that principle through D&C 124, Liberty Jail, and the building of Nauvoo. Together they wrestle with what divine testing really means, and how the Lord uses weakness to strengthen, prepare and awaken us to what He already knows about us but which we may have yet to discover for ourselves.
2025-10-281h 11
Still LearningWhen Heaven Feels Silent – Come Follow Me D&C 121-123 | Still LearningWhen Joseph Smith penned the words, “Let us cheerfully do all things that lie in our power,” he was cold, hungry, and imprisoned. In this week’s study, Rebecca and Gunnar explore how that counsel — born in suffering — still calls us to faith today. From the siege of Far West to Emma’s letters of love, from the cry “O God, where art thou?” to the Lord’s answer, “My son, peace be unto thy soul,” this episode offers a message of courage, charity, and enduring trust in the Lord’s timing.
2025-10-251h 04
Still LearningHow do you build Zion when your world is on fire? – Come Follow Me D&C 115 120 | Still LearningIn this powerful episode, Gunnar and Rebecca walk through D&C 115–120 —revelations received in one of the darkest and most defining chapters of early Church history. From the exodus out of Kirtland to the command to build a temple in Far West, to Sidney Rigdon’s “Salt Sermon”, his "4th of July Oration" and the rise of the Missouri-Mormon war, we explore how faith, fear, and fortitude collided in 1838.Amid persecution, God called His people not to retreat, but to “arise and shine forth.” Their story invites us to do the same.
2025-10-221h 25
Still LearningFaith, Tragedy, and the True Treasure of Zion? - Come Follow Me D&C 111-114 | Still LearningIn this episode of Still Learning, Gunnar and Rebecca start by reflecting on a historic and emotional week—President Nelson’s passing and a tragic attack on Saints at worship. Those events set the stage for a heartfelt conversation about love, faith, and what it means to treasure others as God does. Turning to Doctrine & Covenants 111–114, they explore Joseph Smith’s desperate trip to Salem in search of money and how the Lord gently redefined “treasure” to mean something far greater. Audio/Video Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on Zoom due to technical difficulties with our normal set...
2025-10-071h 26
Still LearningWhy Does the Lord Ask Us to Do the Impossible? - Come Follow Me D&C 109-110 | Still LearningIn this episode of Still Learning, Gunnar and Rebecca dive into Doctrine & Covenants 109–110, recounting the dedication of the Kirtland Temple and the Lord’s subsequent appearance. Together they reflect on Lord’s impossible command to build a temple with only a handful of poor Saints—and how their faith and sacrifice can inspire us to move forward in our own daunting challenges.
2025-09-291h 08
Still LearningWhat Happens When We See Others as God Sees Them? - Come Follow Me D&C 106-108 | Still LearningWhat difference would it make if we could see each other the way God sees us? Gunnar and Rebecca explore this question through the lens of D&C 106–108. From Warren Cowdery’s quiet calling to the heavenly confirmation of priesthood blessings, the message is the same: heaven rejoices when we turn toward the light. This conversation invites us to see beyond weakness, to recognize divine worth in others, and to let that change the way we live and love.
2025-09-231h 09
Still LearningWhy “Sue for Peace” When Outrage Pays More Dividends? - Come Follow Me D&C 102-105 | Still LearningIn this episode of “Still Learning,” Gunnar and Rebecca reframe Zion’s Camp and the Lord’s call to “sue for peace”: not weakness, but disciplined strength. If you’re tired of outrage on loop, this conversation shows a better way—clean hands, courageous hearts, and small, deliberate steps toward Zion this week. It’s forward-looking, doable, and rooted in the Savior’s kind of power.
2025-09-151h 07
Still LearningHow Do We Rejoice in Affliction? – Come Follow Me D&C 98–101 | Still LearningThis discussion ranges from ancient Christians in Rome to pioneers in Missouri, drawing parallels between disciples across centuries who were “proved” through suffering. Gunnar and Rebecca share insights on agency, commandments as invitations to happiness, and the promise that the Lord will guide us “in the very moment” when we act in faith. They explore how trials cultivate deep spiritual roots and how joy in Christ is full—even in the face of death. The episode closes with the reminder that every trial is an opportunity to choose discipleship and discover “news from heaven.”
2025-09-0749 min
Still LearningHow Do We Move Forward When it Feels Impossible? – Come Follow Me D&C 94–97 | Still LearningChastening may feel painful, but in this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca unpack how the Lord’s rebuke is evidence of His love. With insights from D&C 94–97, Hebrews, Ether, and Joseph Smith’s own experiences, they show how correction brings growth—and how building Zion requires trust, humility, and courage.
2025-09-0157 min
Still LearningWhat If My Hard Times Are Really Training? – Come Follow Me D&C 93 | Still LearningDoctrine and Covenants 93 is one of the most revolutionary revelations of the Restoration, teaching truths about God, Christ, and humankind that defy centuries of traditional Christian thought. In this episode, Rebecca and Gunnar explore how the section redefines our understanding of the premortal life, divine progression, and the promise that we too may receive “grace for grace” until we reach the fullness of God. They reflect on the experiences of the early Saints, including accounts from the School of the Prophets where Joseph Smith and others testified of seeing divine personages. They also share modern applications—how recognizing light and tr...
2025-08-2756 min
Still LearningCan Obedience Bring Spiritual Power Before I Understand? – Come Follow Me D&C 89 | Still LearningThis episode explores how the Word of Wisdom came forth amid clouds of tobacco smoke and the faithful concerns of Emma Smith. Gunnar and Rebecca weave together scripture, Church history, and personal experience to show how this revelation was far ahead of its time. They discuss its relevance today, from food in season to avoiding addictive substances, and testify of the promised “hidden treasures of knowledge” given to those who obey. More than a health code, the Word of Wisdom is presented as a spiritual covenant that strengthens mind, body, and soul.
2025-08-1935 min
Still LearningCan Gratitude Really Change My Life When I’m Hurting? – Come Follow Me D&C 88 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar’s conversation on D&C 88 takes listeners on a journey from the Lord’s promise of “another Comforter” to the daily practice of filling our lives with light. They reflect on how hope changes fear into assurance, how gratitude can heal even deep wounds, and how the gifts of God—whether joyful or painful—are meant to draw us closer to Him. Personal stories, scriptural insights, and thoughtful reflections invite listeners to consider how they might “fill the measure of their creation” and walk in greater light.
2025-08-141h 04
Still LearningWhy Does God Let Truth and Error Grow Side by Side? – Come Follow Me D&C 85-87 | Still LearningIn this episode, Rebecca and Gunnar explore Doctrine and Covenants 85–87 prompting reflection on the importance of spiritual boundaries—how we can support priesthood leaders and act with good intentions without overstepping sacred stewardships. The conversation then turns to D&C 87, where Joseph Smith foresees not just the American Civil War, but an age of worldwide violence, famine, and upheaval. Gunnar and Rebecca recount how this revelation has played out across the past two centuries and discuss how prophetic expectations can lead to misunderstanding when events unfold differently than imagined—such as the surprising fulfillment of Presiden...
2025-08-0443 min
Still LearningHow Can Covenants Protect My Family in a Fearful World? – Come Follow Me D&C 81-83 | Still LearningThis episode unpacks the formation of the First Presidency and the deep loyalty between Joseph Smith and Frederick G. Williams. Gunnar and Rebecca explore what it means to “strengthen the feeble knees,” including personal stories of how the Lord sustains us during fearful times. The violent attack on Joseph and Sidney Rigdon is recounted in stark detail, followed by a moving song from Emma’s perspective. They close with insights on the Lord’s storehouse and the importance of reaching beyond our church communities to care for those in need.
2025-07-2255 min
Still LearningHow Do I Bring My Questions to God With Faith? – Come Follow Me D&C 77-80 | Still LearningIn this moving episode, Rebecca and Gunnar dive into D&C 77–80, drawing connections between missionary work, personal sacrifice, and spiritual maturity. They reflect on Joseph Smith’s questions about Revelation and how seeking divine answers is an act of faith, not doubt. Through discussions of Newel K. Whitney’s consecrated wealth and Jared Carter’s repeated missionary service, they highlight how commitment to the Lord’s work often comes with a cost—but also with sweetness. The hosts also share deeply personal stories about how trying to say “yes” to God changes us. Listeners are reminded that while the Lord may not give...
2025-07-1452 min
Still LearningWhat Do the 3 Degrees of Glory Teach Me About God’s Love? – Come Follow Me D&C 76 | Still LearningWhat happens when you realize that heaven isn’t “us vs. them”—but instead, a loving invitation to grow into all that God is? Rebecca and Gunnar examine that question through the lens of Doctrine and Covenants 76. They explore how this vision opened a broader, more hopeful understanding of God’s plan and shattered old, judgmental traditions. Along the way, they share stories of friends who demanded high standards, the experience of confronting personal pride, and what it means to strive for exaltation—not just salvation. A personal poem and an inspiring song from Brother Joseph help frame the emotional and...
2025-07-061h 00
Still LearningWhat Should I Do When I Feel Inadequate for My Calling? – Come Follow Me D&C 71-75 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar discuss Doctrine & Covenants 70–75 with a focus on the tragic story of Ezra Booth—the Church’s first vocal dissenter. They explore the cost of discipleship, the danger of offense, and how Booth’s jealousy and unmet expectations led to spiritual ruin. Along the way, they draw parallels to modern faith struggles and share powerful insights on revelation, humility, and enduring to the end. The episode includes personal conversion stories and a musical excerpt from the upcoming Brother Joseph musical.
2025-07-011h 09
Still LearningWhat If I Never Feel “Good Enough” for God? – Come Follow Me D&C 67-70 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar discuss the imperfect process of learning, trusting, and growing into discipleship. Through personal stories and thoughtful reflections on D&C 67–70, they examine what it means to be spiritually “worthy,” why companionship strengthens faith, and how God consecrates even our flawed efforts. With warmth and vulnerability, they invite listeners to abandon toxic perfectionism and embrace a relationship with Christ based on love, trust, and grace.
2025-06-2346 min
Still LearningIs Forgiving the Same as Trusting? – Come Follow Me D&C 64-66 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar discuss the hard but holy path of choosing compassion in the face of offense, hurt, and betrayal. With insights from Doctrine and Covenants 64–66 and a powerful original song, they explore how forgiveness is not about forgetting or enabling abuse, but about seeing others through the eyes of Christ. The conversation includes practical tools for creating boundaries and emotional safety, even while extending love and grace.
2025-06-1847 min
Still LearningWhat Does It Mean to Bury or Share Our Talents? – Come Follow Me D&C 60-63 | Still LearningRebecca and Gunnar discuss what it means to move forward in faith, even when we feel unsure, underprepared, or misunderstood. Drawing on sections 60–63 of the Doctrine and Covenants, they explore how God’s instructions to the early Saints parallel our own journeys: developing our spiritual gifts, learning through trial and error, and exercising compassion even in rejection. With insights into missionary work, prophetic authority, and personal revelation, they invite listeners to reflect on how humility and perseverance shape discipleship. The heart of the episode is clear: Zion is built not by the flawless, but by the faithful.
2025-06-1259 min