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Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley
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The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Help Me Help You: Esau Becomes the Internet's Life Coach
Everyone needs a life coach sometimes and Esau is here to play the role. In today's episode, he answers the internet's questions about friendship, marriage, calling, AI, church, and, yes, the ethics of eating your kid’s leftovers. Joined by Producer Mike and Holy Post Community Coordinator Emerson, the trio tackles everything from existential crises to the proper number of slices you’re allowed to take from a pie. Whether you’re wondering how to make friends as a tired parent or if your marriage is weird because you don’t fight, Esau’s got takes, and lots of them....
2025-05-08
47 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Love in a Time of Outrage: Recovering the Center of Paul’s Theology
When most people think of the Apostle Paul, they picture a guy who cares more about doctrine and judgment than love. But what if I told you that the guy who wrote the most famous chapter on love in the Bible actually built his whole theology around it? Esau McCaulley talks with New Testament scholar Nijay Gupta about his new book The Affections of Christ and why Paul might be the Bible’s most misunderstood writer. They explore what Paul really says about love, how emotion theory helps us read the Bible better, and why recovering Paul’s tender side could...
2025-05-01
50 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Our Love-Hate Relationship with Wealth
Why do some successful people inspire us while others ignite our outrage? Esau is joined by John Onwuchekwa to unpack our complicated relationship with wealth, celebrity, and privilege. From Katy Perry and her trip to space, to Deon Sanders' son, Shedeur Sanders' jersey retirement controversy, we explore what our inconsistent reactions reveal about ourselves and what we prioritize. Also, we introduce a brand new segment - Low Stakes Conspiracy Theories. Mike wonders if Stevie Wonder is actually blind and John is just asking if we actually went to the moon... 0:00 - End Credits ...
2025-04-24
49 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Is There Proof Jesus Was Crucified and Resurrected?
What if the resurrection isn’t just a matter of faith—but of history? In this special Holy Week episode, Esau McCaulley sits down with New Testament scholar Craig Keener to explore the historical evidence for Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection, Rome’s brutal use of the cross, and why the earliest witnesses to the empty tomb were women. They also reflect on the personal and political meaning of the cross, and how the resurrection reshapes our understanding of suffering, hope, and what it means to be human. 0:00 - Theme Song 11:11 - Crucifixio...
2025-04-17
45 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
A Different Kind of DEI
DEI is all over the news right now. The Right hates it and the Left idolizes it, but what if there was a different way to approach the controversial topic? Esau McCaulley is joined by writer and cultural commentator Marie Beecham for a candid conversation about what happens when DEI and antiracism efforts go off the rails—and what it looks like to chart a better path forward. They talk about Marie’s journey through progressive anti-racism, her disillusionment with parts of the movement, and how her faith shaped a more nuanced, hopeful approach. Want to hear more...
2025-04-10
53 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
The Target Boycott and How the Church Should Think About Money
Esau, Justin Giboney, and Tish Harrison Warren explore the recent Target boycott led by Black church leaders during Lent and what it reveals about how Christians think (or don’t think) about money. They unpack the role of ethical spending, the challenges of discipleship in a convenience-driven culture, and whether the Church should be speaking more directly about where and how we spend. Along the way: the Barbie Movie is Christian, nature is good, and Lebron broke Esau's heart. Holy Post Plus: Esau McCaulley on Podcast on Negative World: https://www.pat...
2025-04-03
44 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Becoming a Church Girl with Sarita Lyons
Sarita Lyons is here to tell us about her book, Church Girl. She and Esau talk about her journey, from how she was pulled from her faith to what brought her back. She explains why she wrote a book specifically about being a Black Christian woman and why that specificity matters. And, this week in Holy Sports, should there be spaces where you can’t discuss race and politics? 0:00 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://www.me...
2025-03-27
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
What LeBron James Teaches Us About Parenthood and Empathy
LeBron James made headlines for confronting ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith after criticism of his son, Bronny. Esau and Malcolm Foley unpack the moment and ask: What’s a parent’s role in their child’s success, and when does helping become too much? They also explore the growing backlash against empathy and wrestle with how we should use power and privilege for the good of others. Plus, in our new “Freezing Cold Takes” segment, we admit seasonal depression is real… and maybe soccer is actually good? 0:34 - Show Begins 1:20 - Freezing Cold Ta...
2025-03-20
45 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Why is the Internet so Angry?
The internet has become an angry place, but how did it get here and is there any fixing it? Esau is joined by Hannah Anderson and Hannah King to unpack why everyone on the timeline seems ready to fight, how rage has become its own online currency, and whether we’re all just really, really lonely. Also, Esau may or may not have tried a social media experiment that has now turned into an ethical crisis. Rolling Stones Article on Rage Bait: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/what-is-rage-bait-influencers-making-people-angry-1234976621/
2025-03-13
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Who’s the New Public Face of Christianity?
Goodbye Billy Graham and Tim Keller. Hello...um...well, we're not sure. Esau McCaulley is joined by Justin Giboney and Tish Harrison Warren to discuss whether Christianity still has a public face, or if the era of unifying spiritual leaders is over. They explore the rise of social media influencers in faith spaces, why young people may be returning to church, and whether the church is fairly represented in the media. Plus, they share why there's still reason for hope, even in a time of overwhelming bad news. - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join t...
2025-03-06
46 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Reclaiming the Black Church's Story
For too long, the history of Black Christianity in America has been told in incomplete or misleading ways. Esau sits down with theologian and author Walter Strickland to discuss his new book, Swing Low: A History of Black Christianity in the United States. They explore the theological foundations of the Black church, the overlooked figures who shaped its legacy, and why its story is about more than just politics. Swing Low, volume 1: A History of Black Christianity in the United States by Walter Strickland - https://a.co/d/0Q4YUJr Sponsor - F...
2025-02-27
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Did the Early Church Believe Jesus Was God?
What really happened at the Council of Nicaea? Did Constantine force Christians to declare Jesus as God? Was the Bible invented there? And why does the Nicene Creed still matter today? Esau McCaulley sits down with Dr. George Kalantzis, Professor of Theology at Wheaton College, to clear up the biggest misconceptions about Nicaea, the divinity of Christ, and the role of the early church in shaping Christian belief. They also discuss why the early Romans thought Christianity was too "soft," and how the church resisted the empire.
2025-02-20
46 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Love, Fame, and Internet Trolls
What's it like being married to someone the internet loves to hate? Esau McCaulley sits down with Nancy French (wife of David French) and Jonathan Warren (husband of Tish Harrison Warren) to talk about love, marriage, and surviving the chaos of public life. From meeting their spouses in unexpected ways to navigating online backlash, they share candid stories, hilarious moments, and hard-won wisdom on commitment, faith, and keeping your sanity when strangers have opinions about your relationship. Plus, a deep dive into romantic comedies, an impromptu marriage advice segment, and a surprise cameo from Esau’s wife, Mandy.
2025-02-13
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
The Anti-Greed Gospel: Money, Racism, and the Church
For years, we’ve been told that racism is about hate. But what if it’s actually about money? Like… a lot of money? Esau McCaulley sits down with Dr. Malcolm Foley—historian, author, and expert on racial violence—to break down how greed, not just racism, has been running the show all along. From lynchings as economic control to modern capitalism’s obsession with exploitation, we follow the money and ask: Why does nobody preach about greed? What did Ida B. Wells figure out that we keep ignoring? And how did Frederick Douglass have better jokes about injustice than we do n...
2025-02-06
46 min
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley
This is our unabridged interview with Esau McCaulley.What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered from a season of digging deeply into family and national history, and describes what th...
2025-01-24
1h 04
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
LA Fires, Climate Change, and Christian Responsibility
When disaster strikes, what should Christians do? Esau sits down with Jamie Aten, a disaster relief expert, and the Blanchard Chair of Humanitarian and Disaster Leadership at Wheaton College. They talk about the devastating wildfires in California, how climate change and policy decisions are making disasters worse, and why churches play a crucial role in relief efforts. List of Ways to Contribute: https://www.holypost.com/post/ways-to-contribute-to-la-fire-relief
2025-01-23
41 min
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Esau McCaulley: How Far to the Promised Land? (Best of NSE)
What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered from a season of digging deeply into family and national history, and describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South i...
2025-01-20
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
What Squid Game Says About Us (And Capitalism)
What happens when a Korean drama holds up a mirror to the world? Esau sits down with Cultural Critic, Rebecca Sun to talk about Squid Game—the Netflix phenomenon that just released its second season. Esau and Rebecca break down how the show’s brutal, beautifully shot narrative forces us to wrestle with big questions: What is the show actually saying about capitalism? What happens when art critiques its own existence? And what does Squid Game’s creator really want us to take away from all the chaos? Rebecca Sun's Articles: There’s a Reason...
2025-01-16
44 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Denzel’s Ministry and What We Want From Celebrity Christians
Denzel Washington was recently baptized and now believes he's been called to ministry. How does he compare to other celebrity Christians and do we expect too much, or not enough from the most famous believers? Also, Esau talks about a recent CT article on family estrangement drawing from his own personal experience. How do we follow the commandment to honor our mother and father when we are cut off from them? Christianity Today article on Estrangement: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/11/estrangement-parents-love-carrie-mckean/
2025-01-09
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
The Biggest Stories of 2024
Esau is joined by Justin Giboney and Tish Harrison Warren to look back at the major religious, cultural, and political stories of 2024. From the impact of the election and the rise of AI in churches to surprising shifts in church demographics and the ongoing challenges of political polarization, the conversation dives deep into what shaped the church this year.
2025-01-02
1h 05
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Why We Celebrate: The History and Meaning of Christmas Traditions
Esau is joined by fellow Wheaton professors, Emily McGowin and Timothy Larson to talk about the origins of some of our favorite Christmas traditions and why Christians should fully embrace celebrating all 12 days of Christmas.
2024-12-26
45 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
What is Bible Reading For?
Why do we read the Bible? What are the best practices to interpret it? And how does the way we approach scripture shape who we become? Kevin Vanhoozer joins Esau to try to answer these questions as they discuss his most recent book, Mere Christian Hermeneutics. They discuss CS Lewis' influence on the book and why there is a difference between reading the Bible literally and literalistically Mere Christian Hermeneutics: Transfiguring What It Means to Read the Bible Theologically: https://a.co/d/fLINdN9 Russell Moore’s Book List: http...
2024-12-19
48 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Best Movies of 2024 with NY Times Film Critic Alissa Wilkinson
New York Times film critic Alissa Wilkinson, joins the show to talk about her journey to becoming a movie reviewer, the best films of 2024, and what makes a movie truly great. Esau and Alissa also dive into their favorite Christmas movies and the state of religious films in the industry today.
2024-12-12
42 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Mary the Apostle: Correcting History’s Biggest Biblical Misconception
Esau sits down with Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt to discuss her latest book, The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostles Can Teach the Church Today. Together, they explore the fascinating history and theology surrounding Mary Magdalene, dismantling misconceptions about her past and highlighting her role as a model disciple and preacher. Along the way, the conversation touches on spiritual warfare, women in ministry, and the importance of retrieving overlooked stories from church history. The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostles Teaches the Church Today: https://a.co...
2024-12-05
41 min
Reimagining the Good Life with Amy Julia Becker
The New Testament in Color with Esau McCaulley, Ph.D.
How do we attend to diverse voices in our churches and society without silencing or patronizing each other? Author and professor Esau McCaulley, PhD, joins Amy Julia Becker to discuss The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary. They talk about:the importance of connecting church and culturethe insights provided by scholars from diverse backgrounds and ethnicitiesthe harm caused by limiting biblical interpretation to a Western-centric lensthe role of the church in today's societythe transformative power of listening and learning from each other_
2024-12-03
44 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Mailbag! Thanksgiving Food Draft, What Esau Got Wrong, and Tackling Jesus’ Tough Teachings
It’s Thanksgiving, and we’re serving up a special holiday edition of The Esau McCaulley Podcast! First, Esau, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Skye Jethani go head-to-head in a Thanksgiving food draft to create the ultimate feast. Then, Esau and Producer Mike dig into your questions, tackling how to lovingly disagree with others, a time when Esau admitted he was wrong, what Jesus meant when he said he came not to bring peace, but a sword, and Esau’s hot take on turkey.
2024-11-28
55 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
What’s in Trump’s Cabinet?
Mike Cosper joins Esau to talk about Trump’s cabinet picks—Dr. Oz? Matt Gaetz? These picks are more controversial than past presidential cabinet picks and show a bit of where the administration’s priorities lie. He also breaks down the big ideas in his book, The Church in Dark Times. The Church in Dark Times: Understanding and Resisting the Evil That Seduced the Evangelical Movement by Mike Cosper: https://a.co/d/avuGHsI
2024-11-21
51 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
What the Kendrick-Drake Beef Can Teach Us About Church Conflict
Ever wonder what a hip hop beef can teach us about disagreements in the church? Esau McCaulley sits down with friends Malcolm Foley and Justin Giboney to dig into the Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake saga and how it actually mirrors some of our own church conflicts. They chat about when disagreements are just for fun (LeBron vs. MJ) and when they go deeper, revealing what we truly believe. From handling low-stakes beefs to learning how to disagree without tearing each other apart, they dive into how conflict can help us grow, and maybe even bring us closer together.
2024-11-14
53 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Trump won. Now what?
Trump Won. Are we surprised? How did it happen? What does this say about the Democratic party? Where do we go from here? Esau, Justin Giboney, and Michael Wear give their thoughts on the election and what this’ll mean for Christians.
2024-11-07
50 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Halloween History, Scary Movies, and a Candy Draft!
In this Halloween special, Esau teams up with Kaitlyn Schiess and Emily McGowin for a deep dive into the mysteries and controversies of October 31st. Is Halloween too pagan for Christians, or can it actually be a way to mock and confront evil in a deeply faithful way? And why do some people shun haunted houses and horror movies, while Kaitlyn finds them thrilling—and even theological? Plus, a fierce debate over the best Halloween candy, and a shocking discovery: Esau’s childhood nightmare, Freddy Krueger, might be closer than he ever imagined.
2024-10-31
46 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
More Than an Athlete: Matt and Danielle Forte on Faith, Writing, Marriage, and Finding Purpose After Sports
Former NFL running back, Matt Forte, and his wife Danielle Fortet sit down with Esau talk about the challenges of balancing professional athletics with faith, marriage, and family life. Matt reflects on his NFL career, the pressures of performing on the field, and how his faith guided him through the highs and lows. Danielle shares her journey of finding her identity beyond being a “trophy wife,” discussing the unique challenges faced by spouses of professional athletes and how her relationship with Christ kept her grounded. They also talk about their children’s book, My Hair Can, inspired by thei...
2024-10-24
49 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
When Faith Disappoints
Esau sits down with Lisa Fields, CEO of the Jude 3 Project, to explore the complex relationship between faith, logic, and emotion. Together, they discuss how apologetics has evolved beyond purely intellectual arguments, how we’re often less rational than we think, and why understanding the emotional roots of belief is crucial in today’s world. Lisa also shares insights from her own life and how our own stories of pain can become a powerful source of encouragement for others facing similar struggles. When Faith Disappoints: The Gap Between What We Believe and What We Experience by Li...
2024-10-17
39 min
OnScript
The New Testament in Color - Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler
Episode: We are culturally embedded and socially embodied, and this impacts how we interpret Scripture. Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler, who form part of the editorial team for The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary, answer questions about the book's origins, scope, and unique features. They also anticipate possible objections to the project and speak of its power to transform the church. Listen, and discover how our monochromatic readings can receive an exciting technicolor adjustment. Cohosted by Matt Bates. The Book: Esau McCaulley (Editor), Janette H. Ok (Co-editor), Osvaldo Padilla (Co-editor), Amy L. B. Peeler...
2024-10-11
53 min
OnScript
The New Testament in Color - Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler
Episode: We are culturally embedded and socially embodied, and this impacts how we interpret Scripture. Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler, who form part of the editorial team for The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary, answer questions about the book's origins, scope, and unique features. They also anticipate possible objections to the project and speak of its power to transform the church. Listen, and discover how our monochromatic readings can receive an exciting technicolor adjustment. Cohosted by Matt Bates. The Book: Esau McCaulley (Editor), Janette H. Ok (Co-editor), Osvaldo Padilla (Co-editor), Amy L. B. Peeler...
2024-10-11
53 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Kamala Harris, Multiracial Families, and The Church’s Witness
Esau sits down with friends Jonathan Warren Pagan, rector of Emmanuel Anglican Church, and Kimberly Deckel, executive pastor of Church of the Cross. They dive into the complexities of multiracial identity within the church, exploring how churches can better serve multiracial families and create genuinely welcoming spaces. The conversation touches on the unique challenges multiracial individuals face, the politics of identity surrounding public figures like Kamala Harris, and the importance of cultural curiosity in faith communities.
2024-10-10
40 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Lecrae’s having *another* moment
Esau McCaulley sits down with Grammy-winning artist Lecrae for a candid conversation about his career, faith, and the personal challenges of living in the public eye. Reflecting on how his music has evolved over the years, Lecrae opens up about the journey that has shaped him both spiritually and professionally. The two discuss everything from Kendrick Lamar's and Simone Biles' unexpected shoutout to navigating criticism from fans and the church alike. Lecrae also delves into the pressures of creating music while wrestling with faith in a secular world and how he now sees himself as a "hybrid" between two...
2024-10-03
41 min
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Trash Talk, and Navigating Cultural Narratives
In this inaugural episode of The Esau McCaulley Podcast, Esau is joined by Nancy French and Ameen Hudson for a conversation on sports rivalries, identity, and the power of narratives. From the WNBA rivalry of Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese to iconic NBA players like Magic and Bird, the group explores how trash talk and competition shape perceptions, and the way political and racial dynamics impacts how athletes are viewed. Then, Nancy and Ameen open up about the cultural and political narratives they've found themselves trapped in. Nancy shares her journey from being deeply embedded in the Republican Party...
2024-09-24
47 min
What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms
BEST OF: Esau McCaulley, "How Far To The Promised Land"
How can we talk about America’s ongoing legacy of racism without sliding into despair? In his new memoir HOW FAR TO THE PROMISED LAND, Esau McCaulley tells his own story—and questions why Black failure is judged collectively, while Black success is perceived as the merit of an individual.Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD, is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His work has been published in The New York Times, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, and Christianity Today.Esau and Amy discuss: Why "escaping poverty" is a misleading term How ex...
2024-08-30
37 min
Anazao Podcasts
Review of "Reading While Black" by Esau McCaulley
What is Black Ecclesia Interpretation? This is the finale to our Camp My Seminary Life series on Hermeneutics as I review "Reading While Black" by Esau McCaulley. In this episode, i breakdown some of the main portions of the book, talk about McCaulley's approach to Black Ecclesia Interpretation, and what it was like for me as a white man to read a book that was not directly for me. I also spend time showing how this 5 Star book fits well with another 5 Star book we have reviewed on the show, "Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes." ...
2024-08-27
32 min
My Seminary Life
Review of "Reading While Black" by Esau McCaulley
What is Black Ecclesia Interpretation? This is the finale to our Camp My Seminary Life series on Hermeneutics as I review "Reading While Black" by Esau McCaulley. In this episode, i breakdown some of the main portions of the book, talk about McCaulley's approach to Black Ecclesia Interpretation, and what it was like for me as a white man to read a book that was not directly for me. I also spend time showing how this 5 Star book fits well with another 5 Star book we have reviewed on the show, "Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes." ...
2024-08-27
32 min
The Stone Chapel Podcast
The Gospels and the Anti-Slavery Movement With Esau McCaulley
Esau McCaulley (PhD, St. Andrews University) joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast to discuss his upcoming lecture at the Lanier Theological Library, October 12, 2024. His title is “The Gospels and the Anti-Slavery Movement.” Many scholars and critics of the Bible conclude that the proper reading of the Christian Scripture promotes slavery and is thus immoral. Indeed, the best cases made from the Bible during the anti-slavery movement were on the side of the slave owners and defenders. Esau McCaulley challenges that conclusion; he says the best readings of Scripture were on the side of the abolitionists. In this lecture McC...
2024-08-27
20 min
The Weight
"How Far To The Promised Land" with Esau McCaulley
Esau McCaulley returns to The Weight for a discussion about his newest book, "How Far to the Promised Land.” This is a joyful conversation that covers some heavy topics, like reconciling yourself to your history while charting your own path and creating your own story. And sometimes, finding your place in the story means finding your place with God and allowing God’s grace to emerge in unexpected ways.Esau is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL, with a Ph.D. from the University of St...
2024-07-18
56 min
That Sounds Fun with Annie F. Downs
The Gospel of Mark with Esau McCaulley - Episode 877
We're continuing our Let’s Read the Gospels series today as we take a deep dive into the book of Mark with theologian and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College, Dr. Esau McCaulley. Y'all I'm going to need to get a WOWIE ZOWIE button with me in NYC for this series! I'm so grateful for Esau and ALL he teaches us about the Gospel of Mark. Preorder Esau McCaulley's newest book The New Testament in Color releasing August 6, 2024.. . . . .Join us as we go through Let's Read the Gospels: A Guided Journal tog...
2024-04-15
1h 06
On the Way with Max Botner: A Podcast of the Center for Bible Study
How Far to the Promised Land?: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley
In this episode, Rev. Dr. Esau McCauley discusses his book 'How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.' He shares how his childhood interest in the Bible and the influence of the civil rights movement shaped his desire to study scripture. Dr. McCauley also talks about the importance of telling a complex narrative that acknowledges both systemic racism and black agency. He emphasizes the need for Christians to hunger and thirst for righteousness and pursue justice for their neighbors. The conversation highlights the challenges of pursuing the right...
2024-04-08
1h 02
Being Human with Steve Cuss
Empathy and Remembering with Esau McCaulley
Presence has a profound impact on our lives. So does its opposite—absence.On this episode of Being Human, Steve Cross welcomes author, professor, and public theologian Esau McCaulley. McCaulley’s book Reading While Black is dedicated to his father, which may lead people to believe that they had a close relationship. But, McCaulley says that dedication was his way of declaring, “I forgive you.” During their conversation, Cross and McCaulley talk about how the absence of paternal love can shape a child. They discuss how McCaulley’s childhood affects his parenting, the role of humor in pr...
2024-03-10
47 min
Being Human with Steve Cuss
Empathy and Remembering with Esau McCaulley
Presence has a profound impact on our lives. So does its opposite—absence.On this episode of Being Human, Steve Cross welcomes author, professor, and public theologian Esau McCaulley. McCaulley’s book Reading While Black is dedicated to his father, which may lead people to believe that they had a close relationship. But, McCaulley says that dedication was his way of declaring, “I forgive you.” During their conversation, Cross and McCaulley talk about how the absence of paternal love can shape a child. They discuss how McCaulley’s childhood affects his parenting, the role of humor in pr...
2024-03-10
47 min
Be the Bridge Podcast with Latasha Morrison
283 - The Generational Impact of Systemic Racism and the Glorious Hope of Advent with Author, Professor, and Public Theologian Dr. Esau McCaulley
Author, Professor, and Public Theologian, Dr. Esau McCaulley helps the Be the Bridge community make sense of God in the context of a racialized society in this podcast episode. He shares part of his own family’s story and lived experience of systemic injustice. And he talks about how the church in America hasn’t reckoned with its sin. Latasha and Esau laugh together and share words of hope as they talk about the hope of Advent and work of God. Join in the conversation on our social media pages on Facebook and Instagram and...
2023-12-19
1h 10
Re-Enchanting
Re-enchanting... Race, grace and being black in America - Esau McCaulley
Esau McCaulley is an author, public theologian and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His book 'Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope' won numerous awards. His new memoir 'How far to the Promised Land', draws on his life and experiences to question what the American dream looks like for African-Americans.Justin and Belle talk to Esau about growing up in Alabama, the racial divides of the past and present in the USA, what difference it makes to read the Bible through the lens of African-American experience and whether...
2023-12-07
1h 11
Footnotes with Dr. Jemar Tisby
How Far to the Promised Land with Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley
On this episode of Footnotes, join me as I delve into an enlightening conversation with the esteemed author Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley, discussing his highly anticipated new book "How Far to the Promised Land." Episode Highlights: We talk about how Black Christians in white evangelical spaces get "pushed out, burned out, or sell out" and how McCaulley has endured in his place of work How he thinks about his interracial marriage in view of the historic and ongoing Black experience with racism What he teaches his biracial children about racial identity and the role of police in the midst of anti...
2023-11-08
58 min
Saved by the City
Childhood Faith: The Cringe, The Cute, The Complicated + Esau McCaulley
What's on your Jesus Island?Church, God, Christianity — they made up a core part of our identity as kids. In other words, we definitely had a Jesus Island. And, yes, that's a reference to Pixar's highly relatable "Inside Out." This episode of the podcast is full of them. Katelyn and Roxy plumb the depths of their childhood faith and discuss how those core memories continue to shape their faith today (or not!). We are joined by Esau McCaulley who shares some of his core faith memories as a kid, as well as the expectations put on black Ch...
2023-10-19
52 min
Disciple Dojo
Esau McCaulley enters the Dojo!
In this episode, associate Professor of New Testament at Wheaton College, New York Times contributor, and bestselling author Dr. Esau McCaulley steps into the Dojo! Esau and I were colleagues in seminary and I’ve enjoyed watching his ministry unfold over the years! So I was thrilled when we could finally work it out to have him on to discuss his new book “How Far to the Promised Land”, as well as what he’s been up to lately! Esau’s books and resources: * How Far to the Promised Land - https://esaumccaulley.com/books/how-far-to-the-promised-land/ * Reading While Black - https://esaumccaul...
2023-10-18
57 min
What If I'm Wrong?
Esau McCaulley: Are We There Yet?
This week, Heather sits down with Viral Jesus Hall of Famer Esau McCaulley to discuss his powerful new book, How Far to The Promised Land, Esau explains why it is important to reexamine the idea of Black excellence, and he encourages us to remember that we are a part of a story that started long before us and will continue long after.In this episode Heather also taps into a lighter conversation with her best friend and co-blogger Scarlett Longstreet in Safe Space, a new segment in which Heather and Scarlett discuss social media, popular culture, and...
2023-10-12
46 min
What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms
Fresh Take: Esau McCaulley, "How Far To The Promised Land"
How can we talk about America’s ongoing legacy of racism without sliding into despair? In his new memoir HOW FAR TO THE PROMISED LAND, Esau McCaulley tells his own story—and questions why Black failure is judged collectively, while Black success is perceived as the merit of an individual.Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD, is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His work has been published in The New York Times, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, and Christianity Today.Esau and Amy discuss: Why "escaping poverty" is a misleading term How...
2023-09-29
34 min
The Learner's Corner with Caleb Mason
Episode 371: Esau McCaulley on an Honest and Hopeful Look at His Complicated Family Legacy
In this episode, Caleb talks with Esau McCaulley about his book, How Far to the Promised Land, and more.Links MentionedEsau McCaulleyHow Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South by Esau McCaulleyCaleb's Substack
2023-09-26
1h 00
The Holy Post
583: One Black Family’s Story about Poverty, Racism, & Grace with Esau McCaulley
Theologian and writer, Esau McCaulley, is back to talk about his new memoir “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family’s Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” He says there is grace in learning to tell the complicated facets of his family’s story, rather than reducing it to a single story about race, poverty, or trauma. McCaulley believes that’s a lesson we need to apply to America’s story as well. Also this week, David Brooks writes about the courage and wisdom of three women during World War II. What do their stories tell...
2023-09-20
1h 27
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley
This is our unabridged interview with Esau McCaulley. What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” When he was asked to give the eulogy at his father’s funeral, Esau was sparked to examine his own childhood and dig into his fa...
2023-09-19
1h 04
The In Between
The extraordinary Dr Esau McCaulley protesting exceptional stories
Season 4, Episote 16In a world where culture celebrates their own definiton of exceptionalism, Dr. Esau McCaulley shares his courageous journey of finding space to honor all human stories. Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL. He is the author of many works including Sharing in the Son’s Inheritance and the Children’s Book Josie Johnson Hair and the Holy Spirit. His book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope won numerous awards, including Christianity Today’s book of the ye...
2023-09-17
36 min
Truth's Table
Behind The Book: How Far to The Promised Land with Esau McCaulley
Sponsor(s): TT BookTruth's Table is sponsored by BetterHelpEpisode Description: It’s our final Behind the Book episode of the season! Christina and Ekemini are sitting at the table with Esau McCaulley to discuss is latest book, How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South. They discuss legacy of faith, entrenched childhood poverty, and interracial marriage. Make sure to pull up a chair and have a seat at the table with us! Learn more about Esau McCaulley: Re...
2023-09-16
44 min
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Esau McCaulley: How Far to the Promised Land?
What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” When he was asked to give the eulogy at his father’s funeral, Esau was sparked to examine his own childhood and dig into his family’s past. In the process, he engaged with the comp...
2023-09-14
48 min
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
When Our Most Broken Moments Reveal God’s Grace: Madison Prewett Troutt & Dr. Esau McCaulley
Making mistakes is an inherent part of our human nature, and a crucial element of our learning and growth. It is through mistakes that we come to realize our imperfections, reassess our actions, and strive for improvement. However, when we are shown grace from others amidst our shortcomings, it transcends the simple act of forgiveness. Grace is a potent demonstration of understanding and compassion, a silent acknowledgment that we are all fallible and capable of erring. It serves as a gentle reminder that mistakes do not define us, but rather, it’s how we rise from them, empowered by th...
2023-09-14
22 min
Seminary Dropout
Esau McCaulley on How Far To The Promised Land
Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His writing and speaking focus on New Testament theology, African-American Biblical interpretation, and Christian public theology. His new memoir How Far to the Promised Land, questions the narrative of exceptionalism that he, and other Black survivors, are conditioned to give when they “make it” in America. His book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope won numerous awards, including Christianity Today’s Book of the Year. Esau is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. His writings have a...
2023-09-13
00 min
Seminary Dropout
Esau McCaulley on How Far To The Promised Land
Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His writing and speaking focus on New Testament theology, African-American Biblical interpretation, and Christian public theology. His new memoir How Far to the Promised Land, questions the narrative of exceptionalism that he, and other Black survivors, are conditioned to give when they “make it” in America. His book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope won numerous awards, including Christianity Today’s Book of the Year. Esau is a contributing opinion writer for the New Yo...
2023-09-13
1h 04
Listen to Trending Full Audiobooks in Non-Fiction, Social Science
How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South by Esau Mccaulley
Please visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/669346 to listen full audiobooks. Title: How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South Author: Esau Mccaulley Narrator: Esau Mccaulley Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 47 minutes Release date: September 12, 2023 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 5 of Total 1 Ratings of Narrator: 5 of Total 1 Genres: Social Science Publisher's Summary: From the New York Times contributing opinion writer and award-winning author of Reading While Black, a riveting intergenerational account of his family’s search for home and hope “Powerful . . . McCaulley uses examples of his own family’s stories of survival...
2023-09-12
10 min
The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey
HH #606 How Far to the Promised Land with Esau McCaulley
Structural racism and social justice in the United States of America is a complicated story. I couldn’t think of anyone better to have on the show to talk about that complicated story other than today’s guest, my friend, Esau McCaulley. Esau McCaulley is an associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL. He is the author of many works including Sharing in the Son’s Inheritance and Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope. He is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times and his writing...
2023-09-06
50 min
Reimagining the Good Life with Amy Julia Becker
The Hope and Hurt of Being Black in America with Esau McCaulley, Ph.D.
“Whose stories matter?” Esau McCaulley, author of How Far to the Promised Land, joins Amy Julia Becker for an honest, hopeful conversation about:being Black in Americahonoring the messiness and complexity of our humanityholding on to hope in the goodness of God“How do the people whom we love, who hurt us, shape the kind of people we become? And how do we make peace with that?” _Guest Bio:“Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an author and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His writing and speaking focus on New Test...
2023-09-05
54 min
Here's Where It Gets Interesting
How Far to the Promised Land with Esau McCaulley
In today’s episode, Sharon is joined by Esau McCaulley for a powerful conversation about his new book, How Far to the Promised Land. In his memoir, he took the story of his family and showed the struggles of Black people in America intergenerationally. Esau shares how it’s vital to understand how the stories of our ancestors – though they might seem insignificant – impact and shape generations to come. In a country that highly values “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps,” and the underdog, Esau questions the narrative that we achieve entirely on our own, and asks why our socie...
2023-09-01
40 min
The Russell Moore Show
Esau McCaulley Makes Grace Plausible
What is the most racist thing you’ve ever experienced? That’s the question that was posed to Esau McCaulley, an author, assistant professor, and contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, as he sat on a panel in front of a mostly white audience. He didn’t answer the question. On a new episode of The Russell Moore Show, he explains why. Tune in for a rich conversation on suffering, how we tell our stories, and the meaning of empathy. Moore and McCaulley cover systemic injustice, the function of society, and how our personal...
2023-05-03
58 min
Confronting Christianity with Rebecca McLaughlin
Bonus Episode: Easter with Esau McCaulley
Kyle Worley and Rebecca McLaughlin are joined by Esau McCaulley to have a conversation about Easter and why it is important. Questions Covered in This Episode:What is your new book, “Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal” about?What would you say to someone who does not fully understand what Lent is?Is Easter Sunday just another Sunday? Isn’t every Sunday an opportunity to celebrate the risen Lord? What’s so special about Easter?What difference does it make that Jesus rose from the dead?What about the resurrection of the body?A number of years ago, in a wonderf...
2023-04-07
41 min
For the Life of the World / Yale Center for Faith & Culture
Esau McCaulley / Lent: Season of Repentance, Renewal... and Rebellion
It’s not a popular idea, but secular America is pretty damn religious. Pretty damn liturgical. Pumpkin spice lattes and apple cider donuts are the eucharistic elements of autumn. The militaristic pageantry of the 4th of July. Our children love asking about the next big event. Color coordinated myths drive the year along, shaping us into …. well, I’m not quite sure what this secular American liturgy is shaping us into. But I bet you and I could have had a great conversation about during a Super Bowl party earlier this month—where the eucharistic elements have changed—it’s Buffalo wi...
2023-02-22
51 min
Listen to New Full Audiobooks in Religion & Spirituality, Christianity
Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal by Esau Mccaulley
Please visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/646286 to listen full audiobooks. Title: Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal Author: Esau Mccaulley Narrator: Esau Mccaulley Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 1 hour 51 minutes Release date: February 14, 2023 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 5 of Total 1 Ratings of Narrator: 5 of Total 1 Genres: Christianity Publisher's Summary: 'Lent is inescapably about repenting.' Every year, the church invites us into a season of repentance and fasting in preparation for Holy Week. It's an invitation to turn away from our sins and toward the mercy and grace of Christ. Often, though, we experience the Lenten fast as either a...
2023-02-14
05 min
The Substance
120: Interview | Dr. Esau McCaulley on Lent, MLK, and Communal Refreshment
It is such a pleasure to share our conversation with Dr. Esau McCaulley with you all this week! Reading While Black was a huge book for us and we have been trying to get him on the show for a little over two years so this was a real joy for us and we hope it is for you too. Dr. McCaulley is currently a Theologian in residence at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times whose work has also appeared in The Atlantic, Washington Post, and...
2023-02-12
1h 11
The Holy Post
549 MLK, Black Voices & A New Book on Lent w/Esau McCaulley
Phil catches up with friend-of-the-show Esau McCaulley (New Testament Professor, NYT columnist, author of CT Book of the Year Reading While Black) for a wide-ranging conversation. Why do we keep getting MLK wrong? What do Black voices give up in order to be invited into white spaces, and is there a better way? What does McCaulley do to refocus on Jesus? And why did he decide his new book should be about, of all things, Lent?? McCaulley is a deep thinker AND a little bit of a goofball. Which makes his conversations with Phil always worth your...
2023-02-03
46 min
In All Things Podcast
REPENTING and Renewing with Esau McCaulley (ep. 30)
On this episode of the podcast, our guest is Dr. Esau McCaulley. Our conversation revolves around two books, his critically acclaimed book Reading While Black and his brand-new book Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal. This thirtieth episode was special because we recorded it in-person in front of a live audience, who you may sometimes hear in the background. In any case, the conversation was an absolute joy, and you won’t want to miss Dr. McCaulley reading from his book near the end of the podcast, a moment that brought tears to my eyes. Among th...
2022-11-15
43 min
The Jesus Storybook Bible Podcast
God Does Beautiful Work in Every Tribe, Tongue, & Nation: Dr. Esau McCaulley
When so much divides us, Dr. Esau McCaulley has found there’s one thing that remains true: God can do His best work in any place, in any time, in any culture. Dr. McCaulley has traveled across the world with his wife Mandy, a pediatrician and Navy reservist. And no matter where he’s gone, Dr. McCaulley has seen God show up with His Never-Stopping, Never-Giving-Up, Unbreaking, Always and Forever Love in every single corner of the globe. Quotes “God made us each different and unique on purpose. And He is glorified through a bunch...
2022-09-01
12 min
The Weight
"An Exercise in Hope" with Esau McCaulley
Shownotes:When it comes to racial reconciliation, the church is quick to educate its congregants about the power of forgiveness. Pastors often jump to the solution without acknowledging the full extent of the problem. What do we do when we’re enraged by the things we’ve seen or experienced? How do we make a conscious, faithful choice to practice Christianity even when it seems harder than we can bear?In his new book, Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope, Dr. Esau McCaulley aims not to answer questions the chur...
2022-06-09
55 min
Attribution with Bob McKinnon
What We Believe w/ Esau McCaulley
The Reverend Dr. Esau McCaulley is an assistant professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and author of Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope.He is also a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, where I came across his essay titled: “I Grew Up Poor. How Am I Supposed to Raise My Middle-Class Kids?” This was a moving and provocative conversation that could have gone on for hours as we discussed issues of struggle, poverty, race and faith. Links to learn more about: Esau McCaulley “I Grew Up...
2022-03-27
1h 09
Where Ya From? Podcast
"The Bible and Social Justice" with Dr. Esau McCaulley
Is God only concerned with saving souls? Or does He care about both the spiritual and physical well-being of humanity? In this episode of VOICES’ Where Ya From? podcast, Dr. Esau McCaulley shares his origin story with Rasool and outlines what the Bible has to say about being socially active and pursuing justice.Guest Bio:Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD, is an assistant professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, Illinois. He is the author of Sharing in the Son’s Inheritance and Christianity Today’s book of the year, Reading While...
2022-03-08
44 min
The Holy Post
Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb
To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we’re making progress on race or if we’ve gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” Lamb argues that if read correctly, we’d discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good...
2022-01-19
1h 25
What If I'm Wrong?
Esau McCaulley: ‘Jesus Is the Star of Our Show, Not Just a Solution to Our Problems’
This bonus episode of Viral Jesus features Esau McCaulley, author of the bestselling book Reading While Black. Esau is a prolific writer, theologian, and assistant professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Illinois.Heather and Esau discuss Black interpretation of Scripture, social media popularity, and the importance of bringing personal integrity to your creative process. (This chat is a continuation of Esau’s earlier conversation with Heather from Episode One.) You can find Esau active on Twitter @esaumccaulley.Reach out to Heather at heatherthompsonday.com, on Twitter @HeatherTDay, and on Instagram @heatherthompsonday.Viral...
2021-10-28
22 min
The Holy Post
Episode 478: Foreign Policy, Adoption, & Race with Esau McCaulley & Jamie Ivey
This week is a special a double feature! First, Phil talks to Esau McCaulley about his recent NY Times editorial about President Biden’s vengeance against terrorists in Afghanistan. McCaulley asks why so few Christian politicians seem to have Christian instincts, and what role should forgiveness have in American foreign policy. Then, Skye interviews author and podcaster Jamie Ivey about her experience as a white mom raising black kids, how it’s changed her understanding of race, and why she no longer believes love can solve every problem. Also this week—new polling indicates a frightening number of people on bot...
2021-10-13
1h 35
Mundo Cristão Podcasts
Podcast Live - Uma leitura negra, com Esau McCaulley
Esse é o áudio da live realizada por nós para o lançamento da obra "Uma leitura negra".Lançado em 2020 nos Estados Unidos, Uma leitura negra, livro escrito por Esau McCaulley, causou enorme impacto na igreja evangélica americana. Aplaudido pela crítica, já conta com seis importantes prêmios literários, entre eles o prestigiado Christian Book Award® 2021, na categoria “Fé e Cultura”.Tendo como elemento central o resgate da esperança para aqueles que sofrem as consequências do racismo, Uma leitura negra propõe a prática da leitura da Bíblia e de sua interpretação a partir da rica hera...
2021-10-08
45 min
Mundo Cristão Podcasts
Podcast Live - Uma leitura negra, com Esau McCaulley
Esse é o áudio da live realizada por nós para o lançamento da obra "Uma leitura negra". Lançado em 2020 nos Estados Unidos, Uma leitura negra, livro escrito por Esau McCaulley, causou enorme impacto na igreja evangélica americana. Aplaudido pela crítica, já conta com seis importantes prêmios literários, entre eles o prestigiado Christian Book Award® 2021, na categoria “Fé e Cultura”. Tendo como elemento central o resgate da esperança para aqueles que sofrem as consequências do racismo, Uma leitura negra propõe a prática da leitura da Bíblia e de sua interpretação a partir da rica hera...
2021-10-08
45 min
The Russell Moore Show
A Conversation with Dr. Esau McCaulley about Reading While Black
In this episode of Signposts, I am joined by Dr. Esau McCaulley to talk about his new book, Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope (IVP Academic, 2020). In our conversation we talk about biblical scholarship, the black church, and place of hope in interpreting the scriptures. The Rev. Canon Esau McCaulley is a New Testament scholar and an Anglican Priest. He completed his doctoral studies at the University of St Andrews where he studied under the direction of N.T. Wright. In addition to Reading While Black, he is the author of Sharing the S...
2021-03-17
40 min
Signposts with Russell Moore
A Conversation with Dr. Esau McCaulley about Reading While Black
In this episode of Signposts, I am joined by Dr. Esau McCaulley to talk about his new book, Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope (IVP Academic, 2020). In our conversation we talk about biblical scholarship, the black church, and place of hope in interpreting the scriptures. The Rev. Canon Esau McCaulley is a New Testament scholar and an Anglican Priest. He completed his doctoral studies at the University of St Andrews where he studied under the direction of N.T. Wright. In addition to Reading While Black, he is the author of Sharing the S...
2021-03-17
37 min
The Every Voice Now Podcast
The Untold Origin Story of Esau McCaulley's Reading While Black
How many writers dream of seeing their bylines in The Washington Post, then becoming a columnist at the New York Times? How many authors would love to write a debut book that becomes an instant bestseller? Many dream these dreams, but Esau McCaulley has lived them and shares about his publishing journey on this installment of The Every Voice Now Podcast. In this entertaining, revealing, and engaging conversation, Esau takes you inside the roller-coaster ride of his bestselling book Reading While Black and shares details that you won't hear anywhere else, including the meaning behind the dedication page in...
2021-01-18
41 min